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- 0:01Hey everybody, welcome back to the Elon Musk podcast.
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- 0:26show notes. AI can either help us or it
- 0:29could hurt us, and those are the narratives that are going around
- 0:32right now. But recently, a professional
- 0:35makeup artist found her career with a leading cosmetic brand
- 0:38abruptly ended due to an AI recruitment tools interpretation
- 0:42of her body language during a video interview.
- 0:45This incident sheds light on the growing reliance on artificial
- 0:49intelligence in the recruitment process, particularly in the
- 0:52United Kingdom, which is now recognized as a front runner in
- 0:55integrating AI with human resources.
- 0:59The make up artist Anthea Mordois experienced his
- 1:03unexpected turn in her career trajectory following a
- 1:06compulsory RE evaluation of her position at Mac Cosmetics during
- 1:10a furlough period. Despite her commendable
- 1:13performance in the video interview, the AI system
- 1:16developed by High Review, a recruitment firm based in the
- 1:19United States, scored her low on nonverbal communication, leading
- 1:23to her dismissal. Now this case comes at a time
- 1:27when the United Kingdom is reported to be the second
- 1:29largest adopter of AI in the field of recruitment and human
- 1:33resources, following closely behind India and on par with
- 1:36United Arab Emirates. A study conducted by IBM in
- 1:40November of this year encompassed 20 countries found
- 1:43that 41% of the companies are now leveraging AI to streamline
- 1:48the recruiting and HR functions. Now this controversy surrounding
- 1:54this dismissal highlights the ethical and practical concerns
- 1:58associated with AI in employment decisions.
- 2:01Higher Review's decision to discontinue its facial analysis
- 2:04feature in 2020 was a response to the growing unease amongst
- 2:09workers about the implications of such technology on their
- 2:12careers and their personal well-being.
- 2:16Now This ordeal had significant repercussions, though both
- 2:19professionally and personally, for this person in the industry.
- 2:22Feeling unjustly outed from a career she passionately pursued,
- 2:26she embarked on legal proceedings against Estate
- 2:28Lauder, the parent company of Mac Cosmetics.
- 2:31The matter was eventually settled outside of court, but
- 2:33not without leaving a lasting impact on their mental health
- 2:38and her outlook on the use of AI in employment practices.
- 2:43Now, the broader context of this incident is the increasing
- 2:45incorporation of AI tools in the recruitment process, aiming at
- 2:49enhancing efficiency and also decision making.
- 2:52From scanning resumes to analyzing candidates,
- 2:54expressions and gestures and video interviews, AI is
- 2:57reshaping how companies assess potential hires.
- 2:59This trend is supported by a notable increase in job
- 3:02applications through platforms like LinkedIn, indicating a
- 3:05shift towards more digitalized employment processes.
- 3:09However, the effectiveness and fairness of AI is selecting the
- 3:13most qualified candidate remains subject of debate.
- 3:17Critics argue that despite the cost saving advantages for
- 3:19companies, there's scant evidence to suggest that AI
- 3:22consistently identifies the best suited candidates for positions.
- 3:26And the growing use of AI in HR has raised alarms about the
- 3:30transparency in such practices and the need for regulatory
- 3:33oversight to protect workers rights.
- 3:35The concern is that employees and job seekers are often
- 3:38unaware of the extent to which AI influences their employment
- 3:42prospects and workplace evaluations.
- 3:46Now, legal experts and labor unions in the UK are advocating
- 3:50for stringent regulations to govern the use of AI and
- 3:53employment decisions. The goal is to ensure that these
- 3:56technologies are applied ethically and that there are
- 3:58mechanisms in place to challenge and rectify erroneous AI
- 4:02judgments that could adversely affect individuals careers.
- 4:06Now, in response to this controversy, both Estee Lauder
- 4:10and Higher View have defended their employment assessment
- 4:12practices, emphasizing the comprehensive and multifaceted
- 4:16nature of the decision making processes.
- 4:18They assert that AI and visual recognition technologies
- 4:21constitute a minor part of a broader array of performance
- 4:24related data and qualitative feedback considering in
- 4:28employment evaluations aiming to maintain fairness and
- 4:32objectability in hiring processes.
- 4:36Now concerns are mounting over the transparency and the
- 4:39regulatory oversight of AI tools in the UK.
- 4:42What's calls for protective measures for workers?
- 4:45Of course. Legal experts stress the
- 4:47necessity of regulating this to ensure fairness and
- 4:51accountability and AI driven employment decisions.
- 4:55Now, I'm not sure how I feel about this.
- 4:58I think there are some parts of AI that are great.
- 5:04It helps us go through the HR process when scanning resumes
- 5:08very easily. Candidates that aren't going to
- 5:11work out get weeded out very quickly.
- 5:14Candidates that wanna rise to the top, they can do that
- 5:17relatively easily if we use AI technology to scan the resumes.
- 5:22But the body language thing, But that's what's getting me here,
- 5:27because some people, they just don't have the same body
- 5:31language as other people. They don't know how to express
- 5:33themselves and they never have. And it's OK if they get the work
- 5:36done in my opinion, but they're a great worker.
- 5:39They they know their industry and they can produce really
- 5:44great products. There's no reason for them not
- 5:46to get hired or for them to be fired.
- 5:48Sometimes communication is something that people have to
- 5:51work on and that's OK. So for right now, this is still
- 5:57up in the air. Estee Lauder and Hireview have
- 6:00both defended themselves, and it looks like they're going to
- 6:03continue to use products like this in their hiring process.
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