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- 0:03Speaker 1: Two minutes after a phone call, a woman changed her
- 0:06Speaker 1: relationship status on social media, from single to in a relationship.
- 0:11Speaker 1: The body was already burning. That detail came up during
- 0:15Speaker 1: the trial and stopped the courtroom cold. Not because it
- 0:19Speaker 1: proved everything, it did, but because of what it meant.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Somewhere in the Patagonian dark, a 22-year-old named Agostina Gizman
- 0:29Speaker 1: was dying. And the woman who set it in motion
- 0:32Speaker 1: was already celebrating. There is something about this case that
- 0:36Speaker 1: I keep returning to. Not the fire. Not the fire convictions.
- 0:41Speaker 1: It's the two minutes. How a person does that with
- 0:45Speaker 1: two minutes. On the evening of May 14th, 2021. a
- 0:51Speaker 1: security camera near the intersection of Route 151 and the
- 0:55Speaker 1: ring road on the outskirts of Noquen. Argentina recorded a
- 1:00Speaker 1: young woman stepping into a black Chevrolet Tracker. She climbed
- 1:05Speaker 1: in voluntarily. The camera shows no hesitation, no struggle. She
- 1:10Speaker 1: simply got in and the vehicle drove away. Agustina Gisman
- 1:14Speaker 1: was 22 years old. She had a daughter, a little
- 1:18Speaker 1: girl born in October of 2019, who was staying that
- 1:22Speaker 1: night at her grandmother's house. Agostina had grown up in
- 1:26Speaker 1: the province of Rio Negro, moved to Neuquén, and by
- 1:29Speaker 1: the spring of 2021, she was living in the Villarino neighborhood,
- 1:34Speaker 1: navigating a life that had been difficult since adolescence. She
- 1:38Speaker 1: had struggled with addiction since she was 15. She had
- 1:41Speaker 1: done what she needed to do to survive. She was 22,
- 1:44Speaker 1: and she had a daughter. and she was climbing into
- 1:48Speaker 1: a truck because a man she recognized had come to
- 1:51Speaker 1: pick her up. What came next still cannot be fully
- 1:54Speaker 1: explained by any single motive, any clean psychology, any simple
- 2:00Speaker 1: story of jealousy or rage. Centenario is a small city
- 2:05Speaker 1: of roughly 40,000 people in the Nucan province of Argentine Patagonia,
- 2:11Speaker 1: a flat, wind-scoured desert plateau where the horizon sits low,
- 2:16Speaker 1: and the air smells of crude oil from nearby extraction fields.
- 2:21Speaker 1: It sits just south of the Neuquen River, connected to
- 2:25Speaker 1: the provincial capital by a bridge most people cross without
- 2:30Speaker 1: thinking about the geography below. Approximately 200 meters from Centenary's
- 2:35Speaker 1: local racetrack, past a stretch of wasteland that the city
- 2:38Speaker 1: had long since stopped monitoring, there was an illegal dump
- 2:42Speaker 1: Not a formal facility, a place where things were discarded
- 2:46Speaker 1: and forgotten. Ash, broken glass, twisted metal. The kind of
- 2:51Speaker 1: location that functions precisely because no one looks at it twice.
- 2:56Speaker 1: That is where Agostina's body was found on the afternoon
- 3:00Speaker 1: of May 15th, 2000, and 21, after an anonymous phone
- 3:05Speaker 1: call directed authorities to the site. What remained had been
- 3:10Speaker 1: burned for more than an hour and a half. Identification
- 3:13Speaker 1: took two days, confirmed on May 17th through fingerprint matching
- 3:18Speaker 1: with the National Registry. The five people who put her
- 3:21Speaker 1: there had already begun covering their tracks. Juan Carlos, himself,
- 3:27Speaker 1: was 48 years old, a former taxi driver who had
- 3:31Speaker 1: moved into selling fruit out of Centenario, diabetic in a
- 3:35Speaker 1: way that was already slowly consuming him. He was married
- 3:39Speaker 1: to Ana Maria Perales, 32, a registered nurse, working at
- 3:45Speaker 1: the Castro Rendon Hospital in Newquen, a public hospital, the
- 3:50Speaker 1: kind that serves the people who have nowhere else to go.
- 3:53Speaker 1: They had a four-year-old child together. Ana Maria had a
- 3:57Speaker 1: seven-year-old from a previous relationship. By all visible measures, theirs
- 4:02Speaker 1: was an ordinary provincial household. The connection between Juan Carlos
- 4:06Speaker 1: and Agostina had been arranged months earlier by Gustavo Alejandro Chienes, 56,
- 4:14Speaker 1: who operated a mechanics garage on Estrada Street in Newcun.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Journalistic investigations later exposed what that garage actually was. But
- 4:23Speaker 1: in the criminal record of this case, Chianese's formal role
- 4:26Speaker 1: was precisely defined. He was the link. He knew Agostina,
- 4:31Speaker 1: he knew Juan Carlos, and starting in March of 2021,
- 4:35Speaker 1: he put them in contact. There were multiple meetings at
- 4:38Speaker 1: a hotel in New Cairn and at other locations. Then,
- 4:43Speaker 1: on April 17, 2021, Agostina took a selfie. It was
- 4:48Speaker 1: a mirror shot, the kind taken without much thought. but
- 4:52Speaker 1: Juan Carlos was visible in the background. The image made
- 4:56Speaker 1: its way to social media, and from there, to Ana Maria.
- 5:00Speaker 1: What happened in that household in the hours after Ana
- 5:03Speaker 1: Maria saw that photograph as reconstructed from intercepted calls, audio messages,
- 5:09Speaker 1: and the pattern of behavior that followed, a conclusion the
- 5:12Speaker 1: jury reached was unambiguous. Ana Maria Perales gave her husband
- 5:17Speaker 1: an ultimatum, kill Agostina. or she would leave and take
- 5:21Speaker 1: their children with her. Juan Carlos did not act immediately.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Ana Maria left the home. For the next three and
- 5:28Speaker 1: a half weeks, something deliberate and methodical unfolded across two
- 5:34Speaker 1: cities in Patagonia. On the night of May 10th, Chien-Yi
- 5:38Speaker 1: sent a voice message to Juan Carlos. confirming he had
- 5:42Speaker 1: not yet located Agostina, but warning him, in the recorded audio,
- 5:47Speaker 1: that he would not lose his own freedom over what
- 5:51Speaker 1: he called 2 pesos 50. The phrasing was casual, that
- 5:56Speaker 1: is the part that stays. By May 14th, Chianese had
- 6:00Speaker 1: found her. The last confirmed sighting of Agostina Gisman on
- 6:04Speaker 1: her own terms was a selfie. She took it on
- 6:07Speaker 1: the 17th of April, 2021. Standing in front of a mirror,
- 6:13Speaker 1: phone raised. She wasn't posing for anyone in particular, but
- 6:17Speaker 1: in the background, slightly out of focus, stood Juan Carlos Monsalve.
- 6:23Speaker 1: She posted the image to her social media. Within hours,
- 6:27Speaker 1: it reached Ana Maria Perales. That photograph set everything in motion.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Ana Maria was 32 years old, a nurse at one
- 6:36Speaker 1: of the largest public hospitals in New Kent. She was educated, Employed,
- 6:41Speaker 1: trusted with people's lives, on a daily basis. When she
- 6:46Speaker 1: saw that image, she did not call the police, did
- 6:49Speaker 1: not seek a lawyer, did not ask for a separation.
- 6:52Speaker 1: According to intercepted phone calls reviewed during the investigation, she
- 6:57Speaker 1: issued an ultimatum. Kill Agostina, or she would take the
- 7:01Speaker 1: children and leave. She left the family home to give
- 7:05Speaker 1: Juan Carlos time to decide. Investigators would later note that
- 7:09Speaker 1: the next 27 days followed a specific pattern. Not chaos,
- 7:15Speaker 1: not rage, but coordination. The kind of coordination that requires planning, communication,
- 7:21Speaker 1: and more than one person willing to cross the line.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Gustavo Chienes was the one who made the logistics possible.
- 7:29Speaker 1: His garage on Estrada Street in Nukink was known in
- 7:33Speaker 1: the neighborhood as a mechanics workshop. What investigators uncovered through
- 7:37Speaker 1: journalistic reporting was something more structured, a space where women,
- 7:42Speaker 1: including Agostina, were directed toward paid encounters with men. Kianese
- 7:48Speaker 1: had introduced Juan Carlos and Agostina in March of 2021.
- 7:52Speaker 1: He knew how to find her. He knew her patterns.
- 7:57Speaker 1: And in the weeks after the ultimatum, Juan Carlos was
- 8:01Speaker 1: counting on exactly that. On the night of the 10th
- 8:04Speaker 1: of May, Chianese sent a voice message to Juan Carlos.
- 8:08Speaker 1: The audio was recovered and played at trial. In it,
- 8:11Speaker 1: he said he still hadn't been able to locate Agostina.
- 8:15Speaker 1: He added, Oh, and this is the line that stopped
- 8:19Speaker 1: the courtroom, that he would not lose his freedom over
- 8:23Speaker 1: two pesos fifty. He wasn't refusing. He was reassuring Juan
- 8:28Speaker 1: Carlos that discretion was the priority. He was still looking.
- 8:32Speaker 1: The rational explanation at this point was still possible. Two
- 8:36Speaker 1: men in communication. One trying to locate a woman. No
- 8:40Speaker 1: confirmed plan. No confirmed outcome. Investigators had not yet recovered
- 8:44Speaker 1: the weapon. They had not yet confirmed a crime. That
- 8:48Speaker 1: explanation stopped working on the 14th of May. Gianni sent
- 8:52Speaker 1: word that he had found her. The same afternoon, Juan
- 8:56Speaker 1: Carlos rented a black Chevrolet Tracker from a local agency.
- 9:00Speaker 1: He paid in cash. He made no effort to conceal
- 9:04Speaker 1: his name on the contract, but he would return the truck.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Six days later, washed clean on the inside, contract itself
- 9:12Speaker 1: nearly destroyed. Agustina left her daughter at her mother's house
- 9:16Speaker 1: that evening. She walked out, and her daughter did not
- 9:19Speaker 1: know it was the last time. At 1837… Juan Carlos
- 9:25Speaker 1: called Ana Maria. The call lasted under a minute. Two
- 9:29Speaker 1: minutes after hanging up, according to the intercepted record, Ana
- 9:33Speaker 1: Maria's social media status changed from single to in a relationship.
- 9:38Speaker 1: That detail would become one of the most discussed pieces
- 9:41Speaker 1: of evidence at trial. Not because it proved anything on
- 9:45Speaker 1: its own, but because of what it implied about what
- 9:48Speaker 1: she already knew. 1920, on the 14th of May. Agostina
- 9:54Speaker 1: stepped up into the black tracker at the intersection of
- 9:57Speaker 1: Route 150, 1, and the Ring Road. The security cameras
- 10:01Speaker 1: captured it. She climbed in voluntarily. She had no reason
- 10:06Speaker 1: to believe she was in danger. She knew Juan Carlos.
- 10:10Speaker 1: She had been with him before. She had no way
- 10:13Speaker 1: of knowing that a second vehicle, a Chevrolet S10 pickup,
- 10:18Speaker 1: registered to Ana Maria, was already moving toward a clandestine
- 10:22Speaker 1: dump site, 200 meters from the Centenario racetrack. At approximately 2011,
- 10:28Speaker 1: the black tracker pulled into the illegal waste ground. The
- 10:33Speaker 1: S10 arrived minutes later. Two men stepped out, Enzo Mincel,
- 10:39Speaker 1: Juan Carlos' nephew, and Maximiliano Zapata, 23 years old, who
- 10:45Speaker 1: worked for Juan Carlos. They brought fuel canisters. The canisters
- 10:50Speaker 1: were not empty. What the cameras captured next, from a distance,
- 10:54Speaker 1: through poor resolution, was a sequence that investigators reconstructed frame
- 10:59Speaker 1: by frame. Two vehicles, three men, a figure being removed
- 11:04Speaker 1: from the tracker in a state of semi-consciousness. The stone
- 11:08Speaker 1: came first. A rock with hematic residue was recovered at
- 11:13Speaker 1: the scene. Then, the blade. Juan Carlos stabbed Agostina twice,
- 11:17Speaker 1: once in the liver, once in the heart. The murder
- 11:20Speaker 1: weapon was never found. According to Ciani's testimony at trial,
- 11:25Speaker 1: Maximiliano had hidden it. Maximiliano never confirmed this, and never
- 11:30Speaker 1: explained where it went. The body was doused with fuel
- 11:33Speaker 1: and burned for more than 90 minutes. At 20.20, one
- 11:38Speaker 1: ten minutes after the vehicles arrived, Juan Carlos called Ana
- 11:42Speaker 1: Maria again. The call lasted two minutes, and two minutes
- 11:46Speaker 1: after that call ended, Ana Maria's social media profile completed
- 11:51Speaker 1: its transformation, from Solterra to NU in a relation. She
- 11:56Speaker 1: changed her relationship status, while Agostina's body was still burning.
- 12:00Speaker 1: The head fake in this case is the one the
- 12:03Speaker 1: investigation itself almost fell for. The initial logical assumption pointed
- 12:09Speaker 1: toward Martin Diaz, the father of Agostina's daughter. Someone in
- 12:14Speaker 1: her immediate personal orbit, the kind of person cases like
- 12:17Speaker 1: this statistically involve. Investigators cleared him quickly, and Favre. Investigators
- 12:26Speaker 1: cleared him quickly, but the pivot that followed revealed something colder.
- 12:30Speaker 1: This was not a crime of proximity or passion in
- 12:34Speaker 1: the ordinary sense. It was a contracted elimination, organized by
- 12:38Speaker 1: a woman with a professional career and two children of
- 12:42Speaker 1: her own, executed through a network of men who treated
- 12:46Speaker 1: the logistics like a work order. The word Trabafo, job,
- 12:50Speaker 1: appears in the recovered audio messages between Juan Carlos and Chionese,
- 12:55Speaker 1: not metaphor, a term when investigators pulled the cell tower data.
- 13:01Speaker 1: It placed Juan Carlos' phone at the third bridge over
- 13:04Speaker 1: the Neuquen River, then at the industrial park, then at
- 13:08Speaker 1: the dump site. The geographic trail was unambiguous. The blood
- 13:13Speaker 1: trail confirmed the rest. Agostina's blood was found in both vehicles,
- 13:18Speaker 1: transferred by Juan Carlos' footsteps from the scene into the tracker,
- 13:22Speaker 1: and prisoned independently in the S-10. There was one piece
- 13:26Speaker 1: of Agostina that survived the fire, a small strip of legging,
- 13:30Speaker 1: her calza, with blood drops still visible on the fabric.
- 13:34Speaker 1: The rest of her clothing was not recovered. That strip
- 13:37Speaker 1: of fabric was entered into evidence. It was the only
- 13:41Speaker 1: material trace of who she had been wearing when she
- 13:44Speaker 1: walked toward that truck at the intersection. A last image
- 13:47Speaker 1: the cameras had of her before everything ended. The trial
- 13:52Speaker 1: that should have delivered a verdict in September of 2022
- 13:56Speaker 1: did not. On the 21st of September during the first
- 13:59Speaker 1: jury trial, someone entered the restroom used by jurors. They
- 14:03Speaker 1: left two written messages. The first read, The jury was dissolved.
- 14:13Speaker 1: The case was reset to zero. A new jury was assembled.
- 14:17Speaker 1: The trial began again in October. On the 18th of October, 2022,
- 14:22Speaker 1: the new jury deliberated for four hours. The verdict was
- 14:28Speaker 1: unanimous across all five defendants. Guilty. What the deliberation produced
- 14:33Speaker 1: was not just a legal outcome. It was a public
- 14:37Speaker 1: accounting of a structure that had been operating in plain sight.
- 14:41Speaker 1: A mechanic's garage. A nurse's household. A fruit vendor's network.
- 14:47Speaker 1: A nephew with a medical fraud case already pending in
- 14:50Speaker 1: federal court. Five people whose ordinary lives had intersected around
- 14:55Speaker 1: the decision to end one. On the 29th of November,
- 14:59Speaker 1: Judge Luis Gorelli of Neuquén handed down the sentences. Juan
- 15:03Speaker 1: Carlos Monsalve, Ana Maria Perales, Enzo Monsalve and Maximiliano Zapata
- 15:10Speaker 1: received life imprisonment. Giannis received 13 years. In March of 2023,
- 15:16Speaker 1: the appellate tribunal rejected all challenges except those already excluded.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Chienisa's sentence was reduced to 11 years on procedural grounds.
- 15:28Speaker 1: The other stood. There is something specific about Anna Maria's
- 15:31Speaker 1: case that continued to pull at investigators and journalists long
- 15:36Speaker 1: after the sentencing. She did not act in a moment
- 15:39Speaker 1: of rage. She acted over 27 days. She left the home.
- 15:44Speaker 1: She waited. She monitored. She changed her status online at
- 15:49Speaker 1: the moment of completion. as if marking an entry in
- 15:53Speaker 1: a calendar. The intercepted call between her and the sister-in-law,
- 15:57Speaker 1: recovered during the investigation, captured the sister-in-law accusing Ana Maria directly.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Ana Maria did not deny what was being implied. What
- 16:06Speaker 1: she said instead was recorded, preserved, and played in court.
- 16:11Speaker 1: A second intercepted call, made by Juan Carlos from prison
- 16:15Speaker 1: to Ana Maria, contained a different register. He was not confessing.
- 16:20Speaker 1: He was reminding her of what they both knew. The
- 16:23Speaker 1: implication was leverage. The prosecution treated it as corroboration. The
- 16:29Speaker 1: knife is still missing. Maximiliano Zapata has never explained where
- 16:34Speaker 1: it is. According to Chien Yusei's account, Maximiliano hid it.
- 16:40Speaker 1: But Chien Ise's also had reasons to shift responsibility in
- 16:44Speaker 1: any direction available to him. The weapon that killed Agostina
- 16:47Speaker 1: Gisman exists somewhere. No one in the conviction has provided
- 16:52Speaker 1: its location. That detail has not closed. Juan Carlos Monsalve
- 16:58Speaker 1: lost both legs during pre-trial detention. Complications from advanced diabetes.
- 17:05Speaker 1: He will serve his life sentence without them. He did
- 17:08Speaker 1: not appeal his conviction. Agostina's daughter was one year and
- 17:12Speaker 1: seven months old the night her mother left her at
- 17:15Speaker 1: her grandmother's house and did not come back. She is
- 17:18Speaker 1: still growing up in that absence. On October 18th, 2022,
- 17:24Speaker 1: 12 ordinary citizens from Nukwen deliberated for four hours and
- 17:29Speaker 1: returned unanimous verdicts on all five counts. No dissent, no
- 17:34Speaker 1: hung panel. The courtroom had already seen one jury dissolved.
- 17:39Speaker 1: Those bathroom threats in September had tried to fracture the
- 17:43Speaker 1: process before it could deliver anything. It didn't work. Judge
- 17:47Speaker 1: Luis Gorelli handed down sentences on November 29th, 2022. Juan
- 17:54Speaker 1: Carlos Monsalve, Ana Maria Perales, Enzo Monsalve, and Maximiliano Zapata
- 18:03Speaker 1: each received life imprisonment. Gustavo Alejandro Chienes received 13 years,
- 18:10Speaker 1: a man who had called arranging Agostina's death. A job
- 18:14Speaker 1: who had sent voice messages assuring he would not lose
- 18:17Speaker 1: his freedom for 2 pesos 50 would serve, at most, 11.
- 18:24Speaker 1: The appellate tribunal reduced his sentence in March 2023. After
- 18:29Speaker 1: rejecting every other challenge, four people face life. One man,
- 18:35Speaker 1: the one who located her and confirmed the coordinates of
- 18:39Speaker 1: her last evening, walks out in under a decade. There
- 18:43Speaker 1: is something in that arithmetic that refuses to settle. Ana
- 18:47Speaker 1: Maria Perales was a registered nurse at Hospital Castro Rendon.
- 18:53Speaker 1: She held credentials in a profession built on the premise
- 18:56Speaker 1: of not causing harm. The evidence that implicated her most
- 19:00Speaker 1: directly was not a weapon or a fingerprint. It was
- 19:05Speaker 1: a phone call intercepted between her and a sister-in-law, and
- 19:09Speaker 1: the two-minute gap between Juan Carlos' call at 8.21 and
- 19:14Speaker 1: the moment her social media profile changed from single to
- 19:18Speaker 1: to in a relationship. 27 days of planning. A selfie
- 19:23Speaker 1: in a mirror. A woman 22 years old with a daughter.
- 19:27Speaker 1: Not yet. Two. And the response was a status update.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Juan Carlos Monsalve did not appeal his sentence. He also
- 19:36Speaker 1: did not leave prison with what he entered with. Complications
- 19:40Speaker 1: from advanced diabetes cost him both legs during pretrial detention.
- 19:46Speaker 1: The man who had driven the rented Chevrolet trucker to
- 19:49Speaker 1: the dump site who had made the phone call from
- 19:51Speaker 1: prison threatening to implicate Ana Maria if she did not
- 19:55Speaker 1: cooperate with his defense, is now serving life with no legs,
- 19:59Speaker 1: having never disputed the verdict. That particular detail sits somewhere
- 20:04Speaker 1: between medical fact and something harder to name. The knife
- 20:08Speaker 1: was never found. According to Chianese's account, Maximiliano Zapata hid it.
- 20:15Speaker 1: Zapata has never confirmed this. He has never said where
- 20:19Speaker 1: it is. The weapon that caused the two wounds, the liver,
- 20:23Speaker 1: the heart, remains somewhere in or around Centenario, or it doesn't.
- 20:28Speaker 1: No one outside that group knows. That silence is a
- 20:32Speaker 1: sentence of its own, and it has no expiration date.
- 20:36Speaker 1: What the court could not sentence was the network itself.
- 20:40Speaker 1: Tierney's workshop on Estrada Street, described in subsequent journalistic investigations
- 20:47Speaker 1: as a front for a prostitution network, was never formally
- 20:50Speaker 1: charged with procurement in this case file. The structure that
- 20:54Speaker 1: placed Agostina in contact with her killer existed before she
- 20:58Speaker 1: died and was not dismantled as part of this verdict.
- 21:02Speaker 1: The five people convicted acted inside something larger. The trial
- 21:08Speaker 1: addressed what they did. It did not address what made
- 21:10Speaker 1: it possible. Agostina left her daughter at her mother's house
- 21:15Speaker 1: on the afternoon of May 14th, 2021. That was the
- 21:19Speaker 1: last thing she did that was entirely ordinary, handing off
- 21:23Speaker 1: a toddler, probably with some instruction about dinner or bedtime.
- 21:28Speaker 1: The kind of detail no one records, because it seems
- 21:31Speaker 1: like it will happen again tomorrow. It didn't. The fragment
- 21:35Speaker 1: of legging recovered from the ashes had blood drops on it.
- 21:39Speaker 1: That was almost all that remained of what she was wearing.
- 21:42Speaker 1: Investigators confirmed her identity. Two days later, through fingerprint records,
- 21:48Speaker 1: The fire had been burning for more than 90 minutes
- 21:51Speaker 1: by the time the cameras captured the glow. The National
- 21:54Speaker 1: Registry of Persons had her prints on file. That is
- 21:57Speaker 1: why we know her name. Not because the scene made
- 22:01Speaker 1: identification easy. Because a bureaucratic record from years earlier happened
- 22:06Speaker 1: to exist. There is something I haven't been able to
- 22:09Speaker 1: let go of since going through this case. It isn't
- 22:12Speaker 1: the timeline or the voice messages. or even the social
- 22:17Speaker 1: media detail. It's the selfie. A 22-year-old woman takes a
- 22:21Speaker 1: photo of herself in a mirror on April 17th. She
- 22:25Speaker 1: posts it, or shares it, the way people that age do, habitually,
- 22:31Speaker 1: without calculation. Juan Carlos is visible in the background. That
- 22:36Speaker 1: image reaches Ana Maria. And from that moment, Agostina has
- 22:40Speaker 1: 27 days left. She doesn't know it. The selfie was
- 22:45Speaker 1: just a selfie, except it wasn't. Her daughter was born
- 22:49Speaker 1: in October 2019. She turned two years old the month
- 22:55Speaker 1: Agostina died. The child will grow up knowing her mother's
- 22:59Speaker 1: story through court documents, news articles, and whatever her grandmother
- 23:04Speaker 1: chooses to tell her, in whatever order, at whatever age
- 23:08Speaker 1: seems survivable. The verdict gave that child five convictions. It
- 23:14Speaker 1: did not give her back anything that was taken. The
- 23:17Speaker 1: knife is still out there. Maximiliano Zapata knows where it is.
- 23:22Speaker 1: Or he knew once. And he has said nothing. The
- 23:25Speaker 1: courts closed. The sentences were handed down. The weapon that
- 23:30Speaker 1: ended Agostina's life remains wherever he left it. In dirt.
- 23:35Speaker 1: In water. Behind a wall. Silent. And unaccounted for. Like
- 23:40Speaker 1: the one part of this story that never got resolved.
- 23:44Speaker 1: She handed her daughter to her mother. She walked out.
- 23:48Speaker 1: She never came back. This show is made by Obermedia.