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Taming The Wolf With TOMMY HENRIKSEN From CROSSBONE SKULLY · HEAVY Music Interviews

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Sorry, it's Friday afternoon. I'm sitting here with a dead set legends that
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some of you may know already. I'm pretty excited. I am here today
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representing Heavy Magazine Australia with Ronrickson. Malcolm, thank you for having your chattles
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now. Thank you very much. Some may know you anyway, like you're
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a pretty big rock and roll star. I think you've played with many artists.
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I think there's there's there's nothing this guy doesn't do that's funny. Sorry,
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introduce yourself and tellas now you Let's see, my name is Tommy Hendrickson.
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Let's see. I am Melbourne, not Melbourne, Melbourne, Australia right
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now and man told Alice Cooper and I play with the Hollywood Vampires and uh
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in a band called Cossbond Skelly, which we're that is what we're here about
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today. We're gonna talk about today Cossbond Skelly's project that I've been working on
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for the past five years, and the record's finally gonna come out October twenty
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fifth. We got more songs coming every month. Next week, uh,
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you know, on a couple of days twenty four, I am the Wolf
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that's coming out. Then we have Money Sex of God coming out in May
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tenth, I think, and then High on You and then another one than
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the record, yeah, October twenty fifth. So it's good. We're moving
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forward. Yeah, and it's not just a band, Like for those that
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don't know, I've done my research and it's absolutely amazing. It's it's so
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much more than just a band and songs. There's characters, there's seven inches,
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there's comics, there's a short movie. It's everything. There is a
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rock and roll alien here saving humans trying. Yeah. Yeah, that's the
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whole good Humans. Sorry, you have to tell us about how it kind
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of started in these characters, you know, the whole thing. It started
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with the name you know what I mean, like Crossbones Skolly. You know.
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It was this old aunt Molly Jackson song from the twenties about poverty and
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all of stuff. And but it's called Crossbones Scully. Yeah, And and
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I was one of the names I worked out for me in the band.
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I was like, oh, that's a cool name, and no one had
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I was like, I gotta use this. So then and I'm all into
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like aliens, space and and not conspiracy theory. It's just stuff that you
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got, really and questioning stuff, you know what I mean. And uh
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so when I started writing all the lyrics, I just it's pretty much about
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my life, you know what I mean. I've always been that guy.
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I was always fighting against the grain, going against the brain, trying to
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do what's right by people, you know what I mean. And I was
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felt like an alligence, yeah, you know. And that was when I
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was coming up with the stuff. Me and Alice a lot. Alice Cooper
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actually helped me out with a lot of the story because I kept on tell
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us like, I want to do this movie. I want to do this
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comic book and his character, Crossbone Scully, he's gonna come back to Earth
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and he's gonna kill everyone, all the all, but he's gonna save all
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the good humans and he's gonna get rid of all the rotten ones, you
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know. So Alice is like, that's a great story, he says,
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but he says, every great story is a love story. And when he
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said that to me, I was like, damn, it's right. So
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I'm thinking, all right, you know what do I do? So I
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come up with The Sorcerer was another Als Cooper thing where he's like, we're
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getting ready to fight it signed on stage one night the open song, and
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he walks up and he goes, I got it. And I was like,
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because we had a conversation the day before, we're getting ready to sort
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the show and he's like the sauce. I go, I don't hear the
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man. I can't hear you. Boss. He's like the sauce. I
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go, what it was? The sauce to all the evil in Scutley's world.
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I go, yeah, he goes the Saucerer and I went, that's
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it. That's it. So now we got the Saucer. Now we got
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like our you know, dark Vader. And so now we got Dark Vader.
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And then I was thinking, oh cool, he's come up with some
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cool characters, you know. And now I was thinking for the I'll call
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me Alpha Watchman, you know what I mean? And uh, And I
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was like, Oh, that'd be cool if I can get like all these
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people to play the characters. And then I wanted Alice to be the Bringer
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of Life, like the dad who is like, you know, like Crossbones.
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Scully and the Sorcerer are actually brothers, you know. And Johnny Depp
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is Sorcerer because I was like, I was like, you gotta be evil,
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Jay, you gotta be evil this man. So it's like I could
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be evil brother. So Johnny is the Sorcerer and Scully is crossboned Scully.
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You know, it's like me whatever you want to call. And then I
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was like Okay. Then I was like, how do I So I'll have
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Joe. He'll be the big bad bone crushing. He'll be the muscle.
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He's Scully's like, you know, uh muscle. So then I was sticking
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all this stuff. It's writing it all down. Skully's gonna come back saying
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the world, big bad bone crush, you gonna come in. But the
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Sorcerer needs an apprentice, and I was like, I was, let me
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call some names. So I came up with Sir blood and I called up
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Mark Wilkinson, the guy who came up with all the artwork who does like
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Iron Maiden ju So I called it Wilkinson. I said, yo, you
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want to be Sir blood Win. And he's like, told me I would
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love to be Sir blood Win. So I said, right, you're Sir
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blood Win. So and he's Johnny's apprentice. And then then I thought about
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it. I was a love story. I was like, going, all
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right, so if you got the story, all there's spreading all this chaos
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around the world. There's a frequency that's spreading this thing where it's closing in
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everyone's eyes. It's like you know that roddy pipe of film. Uh,
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I think it's there alive. It was like a Robert John Copper the film
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back in the eighties where he put on the glasses and all of a sudden
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he could see everyone, and it's like and everyone in all these hidden messages.
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It's kind of like something like that. I was thinking. And then
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I was like, going, all right, there's got to be a chosen
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man. It's got to be like a kid, you know, like like
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the Eddie Murph movie. You know that movie? What the hell of the
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end is that movie? And I was like thinking, I'd be cool if
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I knew something like that. So then I was like, I gave the
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kid who was doing the comics in the in the movie. I said,
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hey, can you make it look like my sons? And I want to
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call my son kid, but my wife wouldn't let me. No, I
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don't want you to call him kid. I want to call him kid,
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but I wouldn't do it because she started going through all these like different languages
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like kids. I was like, all right, So she came up with
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film. So now in the movie, I call him kids. So and
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then I put her in the film too, which because if I had a
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daughter, I was gonna call him Piper. So that's how I got Piper
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and kid. And then I was like, all right, at the end
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of the movie, you know what I mean, I figured the whole story
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is like he's coming back, but Sully's coming back to find out what's going
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on. He gave Piper this lockett, you know what I mean, and
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this kid that whole thing. So at the end of the moving at the
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end of the film, Scully dies, the kid puts the lock inside,
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the key inside the lock, and it opens up this light. Because my
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whole thing is like there's always light at the end of the tongue, you
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know what I mean. And that said, I'm always you know, there's
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always a solution to a problem, yeah, you know, And and I
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wanted to get that brus all of a sudden, Kid comes and now he
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lifts this darkness off the planet Earth. And then that's what we stopped the
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next thing, and then Johnny ends it like yeah, so that's what that's
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based on. And then you know, I wanted to do like jewelry because
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it's like I've learned by watching like Alice Kiss Iron Maiden, where they have
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all these things, and I'm going to imagine I could have all these things
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out of the gate where I could have a comic book, I could have
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an animated film, I could have an energy drink, I could have jewelry,
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and I can have all these things. I mean that people will be
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like, that's cool. How do I get that? So yeah, you
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know, and I'm not thinking trust me, I'm not a business guy at
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all. I'm not thinking like not like how can we make more money off
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off friends, I'm not thinking that at all. I'm just sitting and going,
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how can I get a lot of things out there? When people can
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see then you know what I mean, it opens up to a wider audience
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as well, Like you know, people that might not listen to music,
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they're gonna want this. So kids are gonna think it's cool and like,
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you know, because it does a like I want that jewelry or you know
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something. So that's why it was like those and then the comics, you
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know, like some people would just want that. Yeah, It's it's cool,
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dude, because it's like, you know, because when I look at
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it, I go, I can't belive the doo And I spent a lot
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of money doing it too, you know where it's just like going, you
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know, I'm not That's the thing. It's like, it's one guy I
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talked to on tour last year. It's photographer that comes up. It's like,
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tell me, I see you're spending a lot of money on this stuff.
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He goes, he goes, what's your return on this? I looked
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at him. I was like, hey, Vic, I go, do
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you think I do this for a return? He goes, A small businessman?
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Would? I goes, I'm the worst businessman ever to Are you kidding
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me? I'm not looking for a return. I'm just looking to get the
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message out there. Yeah. And if something happens and I'm not gonna be
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one of those guys gonna charge like stupid, I'm not that guy, man,
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you know what I mean. I want everyone to do it. Yeah.
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Well that was amazing because no one even knew who we were. I
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thought it was gonna be like Smell of Glove, like no one was gonna
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show up, and we sold the room oup, you know what I mean.
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We sold the room out, and I was like, I can't believe
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everyone loved it. The response was like it was like I was sitting there
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going, fuck, we're on something, you know, and it's been taken
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a while to get it going, you know what I mean. But like
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I said, we've been going like this. It's just keep song doing this.
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Every time we lose, song keeps on going up. Yeah. So
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I was listening to I'm unbrogl and that song, like without seeing the short
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movie or knowing anything, just hearing the song itself, you can already hear
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it and it's like you want to stand at the top of the mountain and
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just rage your fist because you're a winner, right. And then when I
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was like reading more into everything, I was like, it tells that story
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already and it's just like there's so much going. I was like, this
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is never ending. It's like it's just it covers everything. But like all
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of the songs like that, And while I was listening, that's when I
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was actually like, I feel like all of us Australians need to do this
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more like it should live on mainstream radio here in Australia because like everyone always
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talks about ac DC and there's nothing like that, and we're waiting for the
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next big thing, and I was like, this is it, but more
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like this is the new you know, it lives here in Australia. Like
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it's great. And then you know, they see you're working with like you
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know, producers that hard work with, and then you'll love like Bone Scott
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and I was like, this is why it sounds like this is to be
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home. It's like Alex Harvey, Bond Scott, you know what I mean.
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Yeah, and Alex Harvey, Bond Scott, Johnny Rotten, that's like
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that's my Yeah, there's such big anthem songs and then yeah, it's just
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it's just huge. So and you got the new song coming up. I
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can't wait for you guys to hear the rest of the stuff. Man in
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the videos. The video is the next song in videos. Pretty it's pretty
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dark. Yeah, it's like there's no drums, it's just a past rap.
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Yeah, it's got like this whole pink Floyd Bog. Yeah, because
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that's the thing I wanted to make the record where it can go in different
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directions, you know what I mean. Like when I was thinking about it,
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when I'm writing this stuff, I was thinking, I want to be
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like Queen. I want to be like the Who, where they can go
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do crazy thing called love Radio Dog another one bites the Dust. That's what
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I want to do. I don't want to just do this. I want
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to go here. I want to go here. Yeah, you know,
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I think that's so good. And like you know, artists as well,
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they kind of get stuck in box. And I've noticed, like you've always
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spoken about like how you've got to learn and you're always learning so much.
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And I think that's so good to do that because at the same time,
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then artists are like, well, if you know these artists are doing it,
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we can do it because like you know, the new generation of rock
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and roll, we're looking up to these people and you included and you know
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the other bands that you're playing. And I was like, it's okay to
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do that. We don't have to stay anything, express and reach so much
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more. We can't be thinking that you've got to stay like that. That's
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like, but yeah, I'm excited for the new one and just like the
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people that you're working with within this its project and Mutt Lane as well,
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Like that's pretty exciting, that's huge. Yeah, dream come true for me.
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It's one of those moments, like clinical moments in my life, you
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know, yeah, where you know, it's like I never thought that would
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ever happen for me because it's like, yeah, you know, to work
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with Mutt Lane back in the day, you either have to be pay him
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millions of dollars or a big superstar, you know what I mean, And
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I'm none of us, you know what I mean? And well we did
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hear for he's the worst business man. I just get that call from here.
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It was one of those moments where I broke down and cried like a
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baby, yeah, because it was like when I was wrong, So I
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was like, oh wow, he thinks I have something. And that's that
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what that did for me. It made my whole life struggling being musician,
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and all of sudden then it's just I was like, you know what,
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I'm cool. Just thing ended tomorrow. Hey man, I got Mulin's validation.
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Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, you know, yeah, I still
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can't believe. I mean, I worked on still to this day, right,
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now I still work on songs all the time, you know what I
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mean. And it's incredible that and I'm grateful, so not only his friendship,
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but just him being like this our musical thing. When we go back
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and forth, it's incredible, And I could have a music like like he
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sent like I send him songs, so send him back to me, change
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him up, and we just keep on going back and forth. All of
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a sudden, we go all right, cool, we got yeah. And
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it takes sometimes like three months to do a song. It's not like we're
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sitting at banging the shit out like in a day. It's like we could
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do a song be like seventy versions of it. Yeah, like insanity.
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Like, So you gotta be when you're working with him, you got it.
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You can't be tied to anything. Number one, you can't go back.
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We don't listen to demos. We keep on moving forward, so you
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can never listen to what you just did on the last version. It's like,
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what are we doing today? How we get to how we get to
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the end. You know, it's amazing, it's amazing process. But I
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got to tell you, if you can't handle that, I don't have to
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tell you see I can handle it, you know what I mean, because
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I'm like, it makes me work hard, it makes me a better writer,
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it makes me a better arranger. And just from working with him and
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ol he's engineer, I've learned so much in the last five years that I
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spot a god you can't and then just making songs and arranging, producing and
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mixing and all these things. Yeah, d like you've done some of those
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yourself. Video we do all the video. Yeah. Yeah. I get
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this guy, guy Vicente, he shoots it, and then Anna and myself
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we edit it. Yeah. You just sit there and I love doing that
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stuff, you know what I mean, because it's like I was like,
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the first video we got some guy had and then I was like, going
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to figure out because you don't do myself. You know what you want to
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see, you know what I mean? And I'm going back and forth with
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this guy. The final is like going, you know what I'm done?
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Yeah, I said, next videos. I looked at Anna. I was
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like videos on YouTube, right, I was like, can you edit ship?
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She's like I think so listen, She's nineteen years old kid. So
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I was like, you know what, let's get whatever you needles buy whatever
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you need, let's try it and let's see if it works. So the
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first video we edited was a'm Unbreakable. Yeah. I looked at it.
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I was like, you know what, we could do this, And then
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we've been doing it ever since, Like we've done some video life even just
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watching it when like all the gang ark was kicking and I was like,
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it's so powerful. They even like just where it comes into the black and
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mot and I'm like, what is so? But I still want to stay
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it on top of the mountain. Yeah, but you know I'm making these
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videos, you know what I mean. I pay for myself. Yeah,
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I mean, like the lady was not paying for my I do it myself.
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So we have to keep in mind, like how do we make a
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video for like less than five thousand dollars. So it's like when I see
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people like commenting like oh, I'm like, well, they have no idea
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what it takes to even get it to this level and the money at the
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time and all these other things, you know, So I just sit back
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and do a lot of people don't say that without you know, when's your
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next video? When's this? And it's like as an artist, when you're
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on it. You're like, you know, you just look at one song,
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You're like, well, that's gonna be like six hours and then this
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it's like you gotta slow down. You can't do so many songs all at
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once. It takes a lot. But a lot of people don't say that.
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They don't know the process of it, you know what I mean,
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and the money that goes into it, the time and then editing videos.
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I mean we'll spend like sixty hours editing a video. Yeah that's like three
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minutes long. Yeah, you know there's a lot of work. Yeah,
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you're sitting there for hours on hours, you know, and you have to
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have patience. That's the one thing. It's all about. Patience. Yeah,
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when you go you gotta go through shots. That's not even included sixty
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hours of editing the video. Yeah, Like it takes me like three days
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to go through all the shots because I'll go through every fucking thing. I
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was like, like, there's one second there over here, we could use
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your face, one set, we got a guitar bit over here. Yeah,
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because that's whole thing too. When we're editing videos, I want to
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be musical, you know what i mean. So you know, when you
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hear that you see the person playing it, you know, because people here
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with the eyes. Yeah, so I think it's important to get that stuff,
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you know where it's like, oh, that's what's going on there.
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Yeah. So you've got the new song coming yeah. Yeah, that's gonna
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prem the twenty third ye and then money sets it. Uh. With the
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whole plan right now is after this sous Cooper tour. Yeah, we can
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set up shops in LA and host yeah, and then try and do like
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eight shows at the end of the year. Yeah. But I would love
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to come to Australia. I would probably think next year if we have some
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luck getting on a tour. Yeah. That's the It's the whole thing.
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It's like, you gotta have the record out. I'm like going, how
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can a tour with the record? Yeah? Yeah, it doesn't make any
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sense. Yeah, it's like, how about you put the record out there,
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let the people decide. Yeah, go on tour. Astralia. Want
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every part of the because it's so it's so driven, but it's like American
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Australian, Like it's every Australian rock his dreams to sound like an American rock
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band. You know, we can't you just can't nay always sound here.
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We try, We're going to travel to the other side of the world and
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work for producers to try and get this sound like you know what, we
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just don't do it like like the Americans sound. And then I'm just like
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these sounds Australian. And then that's when I'm like, you know, discovered
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all the A CD mom, and like when you were rehearsing and you know,
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they don't know if you're CAREA or not. And I was like,
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this is It's so cool, Like I think this is what our country has
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been waiting for. Sorry, yeah, that's like that's I hear that.
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I don't want to listen to what I'm listening to on the mainstream radio here,
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like it doesn't belong here. We want prospers straight up. Yeah,
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And it's cool because it's like the only picture I wanted a band. I
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wanted to have girls in the band because for hours, you know, when
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you put in the band. Yeah, I thought that was really cool and
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uh, watching it, I was like, oh, you know what,
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I think it'd be cool to have like a bunch of like really cool chicks,
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curly girls. I'm talking about chicks. Yeah, tough where they could
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hang with dudes and hang with chicks and at the same time. Why well
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yes, you know, and I wanted to find young people. Yeah,
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that's the thing. I wanted to make sure that they number one there feeling
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powered, you know what I mean, and they're going to have their opportunity
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to shine, you know, and to be It's not like fucking some high
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gun bullshita. So we want everyone that listens to this interview to jump on
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follow make this band the biggest band in Australia that there ever was, because
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it's amazing. Yeah, we want that big. The biggest band in Australia
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is coming. You can jump on the website also, this is the seven
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Inches and the comics please do you gotta check it out If you don't,
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Crossborn dot com where I'm going to keep an eye on all of this and
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make sure that Heavy Magazine and myself know when they're coming back to Astray.
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We're gonna let everyone know to come and be there and support the toy that
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that will happen. It will be the biggest tour in Australia. Right,
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it's gonna it's gonna happen. I would love it. I'd love to do
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stuff shows with Airborne. You know what I mean? Yeah, you know,
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yeah, and yeah, I can't wait to Yeah it was. It's
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such an honor to be here today, and yeah, to talk about everything
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you're doing because I'm yeah, I'm sure a lot of people know who you
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are already. But yeah, it's the band itself. The Prospero Skull is
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just it's so much more than just a band. And I truly relates to
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this to everyone. Sorry, I'd hope that everyone would check it out.
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Yeah, but thank you so much. Yeah, a working person's band,
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you know. It's like a working class hero like John Lennon. It's like
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because we're workers, you know what I mean. Yeah, say, you
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know, it ain't pretty this music. That's what I'm saying. It's not
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pretty. It's meant this, you know. It's like it's the whole thing.
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It's like like that it's meant to, uh you know, the whole
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idea. It's it's it's it's everything. I love. I love pop music,
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I love rock music, I love heavy metal, I love I love
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electronic music, I love country. All these elements and I try and put
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all these things in light, so you know, and I also in the
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lyrics, gotta be fucking hard, yeah soft, you know, you gotta
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be real life ship, you know what I mean. And that's the whole
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idea about it. It's like I'm trying to make people think because there don't
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write and this ship. I'm going, fuck, dude, you're fucking crazy.
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I love this. They're just like, you know, because we all
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got the same problems, you know what I mean. We're all got mental
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fucking proms, all the fucking hardships, all fucking you know, trying to
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stay up there, you know, and how do we do It's all fighting
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fucking the devil. We'll fight something, yeah, you know. So I'm
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always like, why can't we just fight it together? Yeah? Why has
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it got to be left right or black white or whatever is? Why can't
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it just be this? And a lot of stuff you do is linked to
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is it music cares, which is so so set up to music cares.
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Music cares, So that's set up for musicians in native mental health. And
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you know, times are hard, you know, So that's another thing as
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well. If you didn't know like that, there is so much to this
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that's happening, and it's just yeah, yeah, posted from the subjects go
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to the music cares, you know what I mean. Yeah, that's the
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thing. It's like I want to I want to make sure that you know.
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Like it's like, I don't do this for the money. I've never
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done. If I did it for the money, I wouldn't you know,
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I'd be doing something else right now. But it's always for the art.
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It's always to help. How can I help people, you know what I
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mean, even with a message or giving back, you know, because that's
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really important to me. Yeah, you know, whether it's giving back to
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like a cancer he starts a cancer from Cancer Front or music Cares, Music
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Cares. I was doing because like so many musical trends, and when COVID
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hit, you were all broke. We had no job. Yeah, you
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know, no one was working. I wasn't getting paid, you know what
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I mean. Yeah, it's like the what am I gonna do? At
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least do it here in Melbourne during that time, we were the most lockdown
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on the planets. Yeah, we did come. We did the Firefight thing.
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I think right after that twenty twenty, I think we did that.
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We played the State of Queen. Yeah that was cool. Yeah, that
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was a big month. You know when we went out, it was like
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eighty thousand people and I was like, and then I'm looking at Queen.
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I was like, oh this is cool. Yeah, that was a big
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one. And that was a good gig too. We had a good time
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doing that because austream is always a big power for cool, you know what
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I mean? Yeah, oh yeah, this was for a good one.
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Yeah. I know that the whole place goes crazy, you know when Ilic
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is coming to town. That's yeah. But thank you so much. Racking
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unsie O. God, let's all mercisica. God. Let me see you
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in Hell. See I see you in hell. You been telling us I
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see you in Hell, and you in I see you in hell Hell.
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Yeah, what's up? I can don't stand begad cricket politicians and fried here.
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Let me see you in see you in hell? Me tell me,
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I say it with me. See you in Boom with the bos to bomb
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with the B. I sat by the boat, the bound the b s
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fils mell Bell, the the boat, the best