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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Money and Wealth with John Hope Bryant, a
- 0:03Speaker 1: production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Hey,
- 0:14Speaker 1: Hey everybody, this is John Hope Bryant, and this is
- 0:17Speaker 1: the Money in Wealth podcast series, season two. And we
- 0:23Speaker 1: are part of the iHeartRadio family and Black Effect Network.
- 0:28Speaker 1: And I am proud to say that this podcast consistently
- 0:31Speaker 1: is top fifty on Apple on entrepreneurship and top two
- 0:36Speaker 1: hundred on business on Apple for the entire country. We
- 0:43Speaker 1: are also top two fifty for business and entrepreneurship on
- 0:47Speaker 1: every continent in the world. So thank you all for
- 0:51Speaker 1: leaning in and paying attention and learning and as we
- 0:54Speaker 1: unpack capitalism and free enterprise and opportunity and agency for
- 0:58Speaker 1: younnecting the streets with the suites and for their benefit,
- 1:04Speaker 1: connecting the suites back to the streets. It is not
- 1:07Speaker 1: a one way street. This is no pun intended. This
- 1:10Speaker 1: is about opportunity for all. Or to say, in another way,
- 1:14Speaker 1: my rich frenzy, my poor friends to do better, if
- 1:16Speaker 1: only to stay rich. That people don't realize that the
- 1:19Speaker 1: economy is seventy percent consumer spending. That's average everyday people.
- 1:24Speaker 1: That's driving the biggest economy on the planet, and a
- 1:28Speaker 1: lot of us find mystery in the economy. We find
- 1:32Speaker 1: mystery in capitalism, we find mystery in free enterprise. We
- 1:35Speaker 1: find mystery and wealth, and so we resent it because
- 1:40Speaker 1: if we can't be it, if we can't get to it,
- 1:43Speaker 1: then somehow those who have it must be evil. We think.
- 1:46Speaker 1: We think that if we don't understand it, it was not
- 1:49Speaker 1: transparent to us. If we can't get it no matter
- 1:51Speaker 1: how hard we work, it must be a setup. Some
- 1:55Speaker 1: people would say, I was with a billionaire yesterday at breakfast,
- 1:59Speaker 1: and we're talking about how people supposedly hate wealthy people.
- 2:02Speaker 1: And I said, no, I say we hate rich people. No,
- 2:06Speaker 1: we don't. We hate rich people till we become rich,
- 2:08Speaker 1: but we hate as a game system. And so we
- 2:11Speaker 1: say we hate government. No, you don't. You don't understand government.
- 2:14Speaker 1: You understand how government relates to you, how it serves you,
- 2:17Speaker 1: the benefits to you. You don't understand the people who
- 2:20Speaker 1: are working their tails off in public service getting nothing
- 2:24Speaker 1: for it, if they're doing it ethically and honestly, as
- 2:28Speaker 1: my guest today is, and they get in no good
- 2:31Speaker 1: d show go unpunished. So I wanted to bring to
- 2:35Speaker 1: you as you know I bring very few guests on
- 2:38Speaker 1: this show. Most of the time is me running my mouth.
- 2:41Speaker 1: I bring guests I think that they are have outsized importance.
- 2:47Speaker 1: In other words, it's something I can't do on my own.
- 2:49Speaker 1: It's a message I can't deliver on my own. It's
- 2:51Speaker 1: it importance that I can't communicate on my own. It's
- 2:54Speaker 1: somebody I want you to see so that you can
- 2:58Speaker 1: want to be. From Michael Milken to Van Jones, to
- 3:02Speaker 1: the Minister of AI for the United Era Emirates, to
- 3:06Speaker 1: all the heroes and heroes of our world. The biggest
- 3:10Speaker 1: money manager in the world. We just had on Joe
- 3:12Speaker 1: Barada one point two trillion dollars et cetera of Blackstone,
- 3:15Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Well, today today we
- 3:19Speaker 1: have another first, the first county ceo. County chairmen some
- 3:27Speaker 1: people call some counties call them chairmen or chairwomen, some
- 3:30Speaker 1: people in some places they're CEOs. There's different titles, but
- 3:34Speaker 1: the leader, effectively the mayor if you call it, the
- 3:37Speaker 1: executive officer for a county. County's a collection of cities, municipalities,
- 3:44Speaker 1: of townships. It is the super agency over all other
- 3:49Speaker 1: agencies that exists in the largest economy in the world,
- 3:56Speaker 1: which is the United States of America. So everybody lives
- 4:01Speaker 1: in a county. I'll get into this in a moment.
- 4:04Speaker 1: I don't realize they do. And this is not only
- 4:10Speaker 1: an interesting leader and important leader of an important county.
- 4:16Speaker 1: This is the first female African American CEO of the
- 4:24Speaker 1: cab County, which is one of the biggest counties in
- 4:29Speaker 1: the country and one of the top ten for African
- 4:32Speaker 1: American wealth and aspiration as well in America. Ladies and gentlemen,
- 4:38Speaker 1: join me and welcoming my friend and a true Sheiro
- 4:42Speaker 1: in the making, CEO, Lorraine Johnson, honor to have you friend.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Happy to be here, john you said quite the stage.
- 4:55Speaker 2: So I'm excited to share and talk and you know,
- 4:59Speaker 2: get to know people and hopefully spread some knowledge.
- 5:03Speaker 1: We're gonna unpack what a county is, how a county
- 5:09Speaker 1: government operates, How does it make its money, how does
- 5:14Speaker 1: it spend its money, how does it allocate resources? Why
- 5:17Speaker 1: does the county exist? What's a county in relation to
- 5:20Speaker 1: our lives. We're going to start though with you and
- 5:24Speaker 1: before we get to because I think your personal story
- 5:26Speaker 1: is important to everything else, because you are the leader.
- 5:31Speaker 1: People didn't take a lottery and say whomever will be CEO.
- 5:36Speaker 1: They selected you with intentionality. Most people don't realize that
- 5:40Speaker 1: I said earlier that the county government affects your wealth
- 5:46Speaker 1: more than Washington d C. Does I know CEO Johnson,
- 5:50Speaker 1: She's my friend. I call her CEO Johnson because she
- 5:53Speaker 1: went to a lot of trouble to get to this title.
- 5:55Speaker 1: We want to give her respect. She deserves so different
- 5:57Speaker 1: than I and Bassard. Andrew Young is my play father.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Call him am bachelor Young, not a Y, not Angie,
- 6:03Speaker 1: not Andrew. I'm not casual about it. Even privately, counties
- 6:08Speaker 1: controlled property taxes, owning, infrastructure, court, public safety, housing, housing permits,
- 6:21Speaker 1: comes aside who gets access and who gets stuck.
- 6:25Speaker 3: Economic development.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Yes, and here's a black one running one of the
- 6:30Speaker 1: most important counties, not only in Georgia but in the country.
- 6:36Speaker 1: So your authenticity, your aspiration, your credibility, your action. We
- 6:46Speaker 1: often talked about talk about when you're not talking privately effectively,
- 6:50Speaker 1: what I would say is PhDs are good, PhDs are better.
- 6:54Speaker 1: You're always about getting it done, being transparent about it,
- 7:00Speaker 1: and I want the audience to see what I recognize
- 7:03Speaker 1: you to be. But let's talk about the who of
- 7:06Speaker 1: you first? Who are you? Where did you? They see
- 7:10Speaker 1: this well crafted, very smooth, not easily ruffled leader who refined,
- 7:18Speaker 1: They don't know that behind this story is a little
- 7:22Speaker 1: girl who grew up somewhere in a household, who was
- 7:28Speaker 1: infused with values and principles by those that she loved,
- 7:32Speaker 1: and who had challenges along the way. Tell us story
- 7:36Speaker 1: real quickly.
- 7:37Speaker 3: Yes, you know.
- 7:38Speaker 2: Often John, as an icebreaker, I say to people that
- 7:41Speaker 2: I'm from LA. Now when you hear my accent, it
- 7:45Speaker 2: is a polished in Los Angeles. Yeah, but no, in
- 7:50Speaker 2: my case is in Lower Alabama.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Lower Alabama, so not lost that I think because I
- 7:54Speaker 1: go up in LA. When I hear LA, I hear
- 7:57Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Louisiana.
- 8:00Speaker 2: No, the the original l A Lower Alabama.
- 8:05Speaker 3: Yes, Greenville l.
- 8:09Speaker 1: A lower LA stands for was originally lower Alabama. Really.
- 8:14Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, John C. You are so pragmatic
- 8:17Speaker 2: you don't get it as sort of a joke. But
- 8:20Speaker 2: you know, I am from Greenville, Alabama, and you know
- 8:24Speaker 2: come from a long line.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute, I'm completely I'm completely now it
- 8:28Speaker 1: went over Louisiana. No, Lord, you're from where.
- 8:35Speaker 2: L A Lower Alabama, Greenville to be specific. So just
- 8:43Speaker 2: let it sit with you. It'll sink in. You know,
- 8:45Speaker 2: people you know, but everyone out there that's listening you
- 8:49Speaker 2: you get it. I am the South, I'm from the South.
- 8:53Speaker 2: If you're from the South, podcast, you're rolling in the
- 8:56Speaker 2: aisles like John.
- 8:58Speaker 1: Is completely clueless.
- 8:59Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, you know it just it's a cultural thing.
- 9:04Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm raised in Alabama. My grandfather started as
- 9:08Speaker 2: a sharecropper, went on to be the first African American
- 9:13Speaker 2: man to own a cotton gin in Butler County.
- 9:17Speaker 3: Uh.
- 9:17Speaker 1: He My grandfather was a was a sharecropper in Alabama.
- 9:22Speaker 1: So I wont I'm wondering when we'll talk about this
- 9:24Speaker 1: online how how close they might have been. Uh, that's deep.
- 9:29Speaker 1: My grandfather was RB Smith. Wasn't a sharecropper in Alabama. Okay.
- 9:33Speaker 1: So your your your grandfather sharecropper in what county?
- 9:38Speaker 3: Butler County, Butler County, Okay.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Mm And uh longline of Southern Baptist, minister's, civil activist
- 9:48Speaker 2: and honestly just hard working folk. And I'm you know,
- 9:52Speaker 2: very proud to say to this day I still own
- 9:54Speaker 2: his three hundred acres of land.
- 9:57Speaker 3: You know, I come from a group of people who
- 10:00Speaker 3: taught you early the.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Importance of work, and you know, John as we talked about,
- 10:05Speaker 2: you know, civil rights and so forth. It's interesting because
- 10:07Speaker 2: now I am becoming him and them in so many ways,
- 10:13Speaker 2: because you know, I remember when my grandfather and I
- 10:16Speaker 2: was just a child.
- 10:17Speaker 3: I just, you know, want to watch TV and do
- 10:20Speaker 3: normal things.
- 10:21Speaker 2: And he's sitting there having a whole conversation that I
- 10:23Speaker 2: wasn't in tune with at that age. But I remember
- 10:27Speaker 2: him saying that Title seven of the Civil Rights Act
- 10:30Speaker 2: of nineteen sixty four was the worst thing that ever
- 10:33Speaker 2: happened to the Negro in America. And he would go
- 10:37Speaker 2: through all these reasons, and I'm sure we'll get there,
- 10:39Speaker 2: but of course.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Tell people what that act is, by the way.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Yeah, Title seven of the Civil Rights Act of nineteen
- 10:48Speaker 2: sixty three was designed to give equal access so that
- 10:53Speaker 2: there was equality and employment and opportunity. But my grandfather
- 10:58Speaker 2: would always argue that during that time, he can remember
- 11:01Speaker 2: people celebrating and shouting in the streets and marching and
- 11:06Speaker 2: excited because they felt that, you know, black folk would
- 11:11Speaker 2: be treated equally now and there would be equal access
- 11:14Speaker 2: to opportunity, but he went on to say that what
- 11:17Speaker 2: they didn't see was the glass ceiling no one told
- 11:21Speaker 2: them about. So during you know, the fifties, sixties, forties,
- 11:26Speaker 2: he said, you know, everyone had their own business. Communities
- 11:30Speaker 2: sought independence because they knew that self reliance was important.
- 11:36Speaker 2: But after Titles seven, many people bought into the American
- 11:39Speaker 2: dream because they felt for the first time they were
- 11:42Speaker 2: accepted and he would now be accessible, only to find
- 11:45Speaker 2: that it was not.
- 11:47Speaker 3: So he said, you.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Know, mean clearly, didn't mean literally it was where I
- 11:51Speaker 1: mean clearly was a great thing in Bastlor Andrew young
- 11:53Speaker 1: doctor King, all these heroes and heroes did that. He
- 11:56Speaker 1: meant that it may have locked people into a false.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Narrative sense of security, of opportunity, and in the process
- 12:07Speaker 2: many people let go of that determination to be independent,
- 12:12Speaker 2: to be a part of the system that would not
- 12:15Speaker 2: be of the equal access that they thought. So from there,
- 12:19Speaker 2: you know, of course, And you know it's interesting to say, John,
- 12:23Speaker 2: you know, and I don't know about your you know,
- 12:25Speaker 2: I know your mother in many ways, but you know,
- 12:28Speaker 2: I did not come from a house that was highly
- 12:31Speaker 2: educated by empirical data through universities. My grandfather was extremely
- 12:38Speaker 2: well read and I can remember him giving me books.
- 12:42Speaker 2: And it wasn't until later in life and I realized
- 12:45Speaker 2: he didn't read so well, but he knew it was
- 12:48Speaker 2: in the book. But he would always talk to me
- 12:50Speaker 2: as if he knew, you know. So that being said,
- 12:54Speaker 2: went on to college three degrees later, attended law school.
- 13:00Speaker 1: You keep messing me up, La, Louisiana, La. You're messing
- 13:04Speaker 1: me up, and you keep and you movet me and
- 13:08Speaker 1: you are offer the next thing. I'm still days from
- 13:10Speaker 1: the last week. You just had three degrees. Slow that down,
- 13:13Speaker 1: average black person, the average person, sorry, the average genius
- 13:18Speaker 1: doesn't have three degrees. Slow that down. We're back three degrees.
- 13:22Speaker 2: And what My first degree was political science criminal justice
- 13:27Speaker 2: with a minor in international relations.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Okay, and then.
- 13:32Speaker 2: Of course I did that in three years because time
- 13:34Speaker 2: was of the essence, John, I was told to get
- 13:36Speaker 2: in and get out. And interestingly too, I do like
- 13:39Speaker 2: to share this to just show you how things change.
- 13:42Speaker 1: Uh.
- 13:43Speaker 2: I went to college on the Lerlin B. Wallace Leadership Scholarship.
- 13:49Speaker 2: And of course Georgia Wallace was the governor who stood
- 13:53Speaker 2: in the door at the University of Alabama to prevent
- 13:56Speaker 2: the enrollment of the first African American students. But ultimately
- 14:01Speaker 2: it was through their foundation that I attended college as
- 14:05Speaker 2: an undergraduate. So my fourth year I received my Masters
- 14:10Speaker 2: in Criminal Justice.
- 14:12Speaker 3: At that time, I thought.
- 14:14Speaker 2: I wanted to be awarded and run prisons, and that
- 14:17Speaker 2: was because I had never been in more so, I
- 14:21Speaker 2: can remember going in for an interview, walking into a prison,
- 14:24Speaker 2: having to take off the earrings, the jewelry and all that.
- 14:28Speaker 2: And then the reality of what I had studied became
- 14:32Speaker 2: real because you saw the you know, the statistics and
- 14:36Speaker 2: the data on incarceration high race and you know, sitting
- 14:40Speaker 2: there and were walking through that day. I became a
- 14:44Speaker 2: social scientist because I saw young men with fraternity brands
- 14:49Speaker 2: and you know, me being a member of a sorority.
- 14:53Speaker 2: You know, I began to wonder, how does this happen?
- 14:56Speaker 2: And I was more concerned with the story. But immediately
- 14:59Speaker 2: I realized this wasn't a place where I could work.
- 15:03Speaker 2: So left there, went to Auburn University, received an MPa
- 15:07Speaker 2: Masters in Public Administration with a concentration in economic development
- 15:12Speaker 2: and grant writing. So hens, you know, that's how I
- 15:17Speaker 2: was able to procure funds learn program development, and that's
- 15:23Speaker 2: probably the most valuable education that I'd ever had.
- 15:27Speaker 1: So in the three degrees are.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Bs political Science and Criminal Justice, a master's in the
- 15:36Speaker 2: Administration of Criminal Justice, and an MPa Masters in Public
- 15:41Speaker 2: Administration with concentration in economic development, and also a Harvard
- 15:46Speaker 2: Certificate in Governmental Efficiency and Operations.
- 15:49Speaker 1: So you literally went from the streets reactive to the
- 15:53Speaker 1: swedes proactive, from from trying to make the worst thing
- 15:59Speaker 1: less bad to trying to take good people and put
- 16:03Speaker 1: them in a place where they can do great and
- 16:05Speaker 1: become fantastically empowered with their own vision, give them itself
- 16:10Speaker 1: agency so you don't end up in a bad situation.
- 16:13Speaker 1: You're now trying to make sure that good things happen
- 16:17Speaker 1: to good people, and that not make sure that bad
- 16:20Speaker 1: things don't happen to good people so often. So just
- 16:24Speaker 1: that narrative of your education, unpacks explains you a great
- 16:31Speaker 1: deal to me and I think the audience. So you're
- 16:34Speaker 1: trying to be the architect of a future, not the
- 16:38Speaker 1: reactor to a past.
- 16:42Speaker 3: Absolutely got these three degrees?
- 16:49Speaker 1: Or where there any life changing moments or things that
- 16:55Speaker 1: harmed or hurt your self esteem and your aspiration? That's
- 16:59Speaker 1: import I.
- 17:04Speaker 3: Can say that you know throughout my life.
- 17:07Speaker 2: You know, I've always been grounded in self, so I've
- 17:12Speaker 2: never expected things to be easy and so to speak.
- 17:18Speaker 2: And I can't sit here and say that I've had
- 17:20Speaker 2: any moments where you know, there are times, but those
- 17:24Speaker 2: have been primarily in business transactions, in purchasing real estate,
- 17:29Speaker 2: where it became keenly apparent to me that it was
- 17:32Speaker 2: bigger than the transaction, that there were underlying factors as
- 17:36Speaker 2: to why, you know, I have made a full price
- 17:40Speaker 2: offer and you chose to accept a different offer.
- 17:44Speaker 3: You know.
- 17:45Speaker 2: So that's a different conversation because when you do everything
- 17:49Speaker 2: that you should to have access and opportunity and you
- 17:53Speaker 2: find that there are encumbrances that weren't a part of
- 17:57Speaker 2: the memo, I have experienced that. But in terms of career,
- 18:01Speaker 2: I can also say too that I've felt in certain
- 18:04Speaker 2: instances because you know, I have diverse friends and I've
- 18:08Speaker 2: watched their career path, you know, and I have felt
- 18:12Speaker 2: that there may have been an easier path. And you know,
- 18:17Speaker 2: a lot of these things are documented.
- 18:19Speaker 3: You know.
- 18:20Speaker 2: The Atlanta Regional Commission did a study a few years
- 18:24Speaker 2: ago on income disparities amongst race and found that the
- 18:30Speaker 2: greatest disparity is in Metro Atlanta.
- 18:33Speaker 3: And immediately it was a Scooby Doo moment for me.
- 18:35Speaker 2: I'm like, huh, you know, so I started to read
- 18:39Speaker 2: through it, and it followed the path of two doctors,
- 18:43Speaker 2: one being Caucasian, another African American, all things equal, but
- 18:48Speaker 2: the African American doctor being a little more equal in
- 18:51Speaker 2: terms of education and work experience, but having vastly different salaries.
- 19:00Speaker 2: And you know, I began.
- 19:02Speaker 3: To question, how does that happen?
- 19:05Speaker 2: And you know, John, truth is, you know, nowadays, if
- 19:08Speaker 2: you apply for particular a particularly a S C suite position,
- 19:15Speaker 2: you may have a vast range for the salary, or
- 19:19Speaker 2: in many instances they will ask what is your requirement
- 19:22Speaker 2: without listing a salary. And you know, when the revelation
- 19:29Speaker 2: occurred that the African American doctor, I think was earning
- 19:32Speaker 2: somewhere in the neighborhood of two hundred and thirty thousand,
- 19:36Speaker 2: the Caucasian doctor earned them to sixty or to ninety
- 19:39Speaker 2: for performing the same job with literally no difference in education.
- 19:48Speaker 2: How does that happen? It happens because and it's a
- 19:52Speaker 2: systemic thing, you know that. And it also affects the
- 19:58Speaker 2: party that's you know, know, detrimentally affected for life because
- 20:03Speaker 2: it creates a false reality of self work that will
- 20:07Speaker 2: follow that individual. Because if you apply for another position
- 20:10Speaker 2: and you're at to thirty, you may ask or to
- 20:13Speaker 2: forty to fifty, while your counterpart who's doing the same
- 20:16Speaker 2: job is already to sixty or two ninety. So there's
- 20:22Speaker 2: a lot to talk about there. But overall, you know.
- 20:24Speaker 3: I'll work hard.
- 20:25Speaker 2: Opportunities have presented themselves.
- 20:27Speaker 1: So let me let me, let me, let me cut
- 20:29Speaker 1: to the chase. Here. We know racism is real. I
- 20:32Speaker 1: mean racism like rain is either fall in someplace or
- 20:35Speaker 1: its gathering. So you might as we get an umbrella
- 20:37Speaker 1: and the color alike start strolling through it. It's not
- 20:40Speaker 1: going to change, so you must what I'm concerned about
- 20:43Speaker 1: that dispairity, Yet it exists in the existing since.
- 20:46Speaker 2: I get beyond it. What the real issue is? How
- 20:51Speaker 2: you get beyond the dispairity?
- 20:52Speaker 1: Oh so sore? So somebody told you they loved you?
- 20:56Speaker 1: Who was that person? Point? At this point, you're yourself.
- 21:00Speaker 1: I know you enough to know you. You have to
- 21:02Speaker 1: you're your You're your you are encouraging yourself. At this point,
- 21:05Speaker 1: you're reasonably comfortable in your own skins. But who told
- 21:07Speaker 1: you they loved you growing up? So the audience can
- 21:10Speaker 1: hear what they've got to do with their kids.
- 21:12Speaker 2: Yes, I can say within my household, my mother, my grandfather,
- 21:17Speaker 2: my aunts, my uncles, and I came from that village
- 21:22Speaker 2: you know where we had the Sunday Revival and everybody
- 21:27Speaker 2: went to church, the Girl Scouts and church was really
- 21:31Speaker 2: the center and the core of community. So I grew
- 21:34Speaker 2: up in a community that affirmed me in a positive
- 21:38Speaker 2: way and had high expectations of you.
- 21:40Speaker 1: I want the audience to hear this now. Clearly we
- 21:44Speaker 1: could have talked. We can talk to this entire podcast
- 21:47Speaker 1: about the stats, the data, the specifics, the reports about
- 21:50Speaker 1: racism and bias and discrimination and that it exists. And
- 21:55Speaker 1: it's completely clear. I mean, oh, my brother steveen asn't
- 21:59Speaker 1: offected by this. Ford Stevie Wonder can see this. Right.
- 22:02Speaker 1: The question is how do you get around that, deal
- 22:04Speaker 1: with that, go around that achieve that uh over around
- 22:08Speaker 1: until we're gonna get to it. And she said, I
- 22:12Speaker 1: have a village. I didn't know her story. Clearly, I
- 22:13Speaker 1: didn't know what la she was from. Right, she has
- 22:17Speaker 1: and we're friends, but we even talked about this part,
- 22:19Speaker 1: but she was affirmed. She had a group of people
- 22:22Speaker 1: who said, you can do this no matter what. Egos
- 22:25Speaker 1: don't fly in pacts. So that's the first message that
- 22:28Speaker 1: I want everybody to hear. Is the through line for
- 22:32Speaker 1: Lorraine Johnson's life is not the title or a position,
- 22:37Speaker 1: because she also has a She has a she's an entrepreneur,
- 22:40Speaker 1: she's a business person. She the glasses she's wearing she built,
- 22:43Speaker 1: She designed them herself. It is a really innovative person.
- 22:46Speaker 1: But not everything has worked for her. Most things have
- 22:49Speaker 1: been have not worked to her satisfaction. And she was
- 22:52Speaker 1: not even expected to win the CEO post and the Cavs.
- 22:57Speaker 1: She was underestimated. So so I want everybody is like,
- 23:01Speaker 1: get out of your pity party, knock it off right.
- 23:04Speaker 1: You're going to have to realize no one's coming to
- 23:07Speaker 1: save you. You have to do that and that comes with
- 23:11Speaker 1: self esteem, confidence and the information of then how do
- 23:15Speaker 1: you navigate in this system? So now your CEO, Lorraine,
- 23:21Speaker 1: you're getting this position. How many how many residents do
- 23:26Speaker 1: you have?
- 23:27Speaker 2: Seven hundred and eighty nine thousand. We're the fourth largest
- 23:32Speaker 2: county in the state of Georgia. We have the most
- 23:34Speaker 2: diverse square mile in America in Clarkston, Georgia. And right
- 23:39Speaker 2: now we are nipping highly on the bud of having
- 23:43Speaker 2: the largest pocket of African America wealth in the United States,
- 23:48Speaker 2: currently second only to Prince Georgie's County, Maryland. And that
- 23:53Speaker 2: is the three zero zero three eight zip code of
- 23:55Speaker 2: Stone PRIs, Georgia.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Wow, that's fantastic. And what is the GDP? What is
- 24:01Speaker 1: the economic energy for the county? What is the economic
- 24:06Speaker 1: post rate?
- 24:09Speaker 2: Oh, let me say that, you know, in terms of
- 24:12Speaker 2: the cab County budget. And it was interesting you went
- 24:15Speaker 2: through how government generates revenue, because that's really important for
- 24:20Speaker 2: people to understand.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Gotten there. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm comb exactly.
- 24:24Speaker 2: Yes, but we operate off a four point eight billion
- 24:27Speaker 2: dollar annual budget.
- 24:32Speaker 1: I want the audience that she keeps walking past these
- 24:34Speaker 1: these dropped the mics. Here's a black woman in America, sorry,
- 24:38Speaker 1: a woman, no, a leader in America who happens to
- 24:41Speaker 1: be black and happens to be a woman, right, who
- 24:44Speaker 1: is running a four plus billion dollar ballance sheet. Think
- 24:49Speaker 1: about a corporation, right, this is huge and she's running
- 24:54Speaker 1: it competently. So four billion dollars plus of annual just
- 24:58Speaker 1: for the government.
- 24:59Speaker 2: Right, correct, And let me say that the Cab County
- 25:04Speaker 2: I am the only and this is very unique CEO
- 25:08Speaker 2: chief executive officer in the state of Georgia out of
- 25:12Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty nine counties, to Cab County is unique.
- 25:16Speaker 2: We are the only chief executive form of government. And
- 25:20Speaker 2: you know, some people go to mayors, as you said,
- 25:22Speaker 2: the chairman's you have you know, chairman's Englnet chairman and
- 25:25Speaker 2: cobb Henry County, so forth. But we have twelve municipalities
- 25:32Speaker 2: and those are your cities that come out of you,
- 25:35Speaker 2: that are birth from the CAB. So each receives a
- 25:39Speaker 2: pro raut of distribution of that four point eight billion,
- 25:43Speaker 2: leaving the CAB with a roughly one point nine But.
- 25:47Speaker 1: The average GDP in twenty twenty two, I'm sure the
- 25:51Speaker 1: number is much bigger now. It was fifty two billion
- 25:53Speaker 1: dollars of economic energy. Yeah, that's that's ten times what
- 25:58Speaker 1: her operating budget is. To give some context of the
- 26:01Speaker 1: impact that she and the county has.
- 26:05Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, we are one of the major
- 26:08Speaker 2: players and we continue to grow, you know, and when
- 26:12Speaker 2: you talk about government and people, people either reject or
- 26:17Speaker 2: they resent what they don't understand, and many people playing
- 26:22Speaker 2: simply don't understand government. Government is the largest procure of
- 26:27Speaker 2: services in the world. If you have a business and
- 26:30Speaker 2: you're not doing business with government, then you need to
- 26:33Speaker 2: reevaluate if you're really doing business. You know a lot
- 26:37Speaker 2: of goods and services that are needed. People look at
- 26:40Speaker 2: the government, but what they can't do for themselves. Government
- 26:43Speaker 2: was never designed to provide housing. But across America we
- 26:47Speaker 2: have an affordable housing crisis. We have an inventory crisis period.
- 26:52Speaker 2: Whether you're talking market value, you know, people use all
- 26:57Speaker 2: these different names. But nonetheless, you know, I encourage people
- 27:01Speaker 2: that are listening. If you provide a good and service,
- 27:03Speaker 2: reach out to your local government. There is one hundred
- 27:07Speaker 2: and fifty nine counties in the state of Georgia and
- 27:10Speaker 2: in the cab Counties instance, with twelve municipalities, so that
- 27:14Speaker 2: means you have thirteen opportunities to do business.
- 27:17Speaker 1: Yeah, memory may be wrong about this, but I think
- 27:19Speaker 1: there's I think there's four thousand counties in America. By
- 27:22Speaker 1: the way, it's it's thousands of counties, and I think
- 27:24Speaker 1: it's four So this is just you know, just in Georgia,
- 27:27Speaker 1: which you know, of course you're a podcast is going
- 27:29Speaker 1: to be heard nationally and internationally, so we want people
- 27:32Speaker 1: to reach out wherever they happen to be. Let's unpack
- 27:36Speaker 1: how a county because you're you're talking about the Cab
- 27:39Speaker 1: but it's relevant draw county. How do you make your
- 27:41Speaker 1: money and how do you spend your money? And what
- 27:45Speaker 1: are and what's something that is not obvious to people
- 27:47Speaker 1: about how the impact that you're having on their lives.
- 27:52Speaker 2: The Cab County and all counties, the majority of our
- 27:55Speaker 2: money is received through taxation, property taxes, business taxes is
- 28:02Speaker 2: how we generate money. Also into Cab County, we have
- 28:06Speaker 2: a splossed, a special purpose local option sales tax that
- 28:10Speaker 2: is one cent and it is earmarked specifically for infrastructure
- 28:16Speaker 2: and capital improvement projects. And that particular penny brings in
- 28:22Speaker 2: about on an on an average on a six six
- 28:27Speaker 2: year basis, eight hundred and eighty six million dollars will
- 28:32Speaker 2: be generated through spots with one penny over a six
- 28:36Speaker 2: year period. And let me say, you know, John, that
- 28:41Speaker 2: is consistent with saving and a lot of people don't
- 28:44Speaker 2: understand how important it is to simply be consistent, even
- 28:47Speaker 2: if it's a small amount. You know here my husband
- 28:51Speaker 2: he needs the money man. He always running numbers on savings.
- 28:56Speaker 2: And if you were to invest just one hundred dollars
- 28:58Speaker 2: per year, over one hundred dollars per month over a
- 29:04Speaker 2: twenty year period, you would retire a millionaire. It's just
- 29:08Speaker 2: that simple. It's the consistency and most people can afford
- 29:13Speaker 2: to do that, but having the discipline to do it
- 29:18Speaker 2: is what separates those who do from those who do not.
- 29:21Speaker 2: So to speak, continue, Yes, when you talk about services
- 29:27Speaker 2: that government provide, you know, we're responsible for everything from
- 29:30Speaker 2: the courts to the jails, sanitation, water, sanitation, water, and
- 29:38Speaker 2: those are the things that government is designed to do
- 29:40Speaker 2: technically essential services because of water, infrastructure, your sanitation, those
- 29:48Speaker 2: are things that are critical. Roads parks are operated by
- 29:53Speaker 2: county Economic Development, you know, recruiting of business and also
- 29:59Speaker 2: funding small businesses. And for people that are listening to us,
- 30:04Speaker 2: that is very important for you to understand. We can
- 30:08Speaker 2: help you start your own business. You know, I've seen
- 30:11Speaker 2: a lot of instances here in the cab County. Two
- 30:17Speaker 2: three years ago we got our first culty on the
- 30:20Speaker 2: south side. And I want to be clear, John, there
- 30:24Speaker 2: is a there is I consider Memorial Drive. If you
- 30:27Speaker 2: know anything about the Cab County to be the Mason
- 30:30Speaker 2: Dixon line between the north and the south and south
- 30:33Speaker 2: the Cab has unique issues and if you're a leader,
- 30:37Speaker 2: you have to understand your community. You have to understand
- 30:42Speaker 2: the very needs. And in south to Cab, you know,
- 30:47Speaker 2: we have challenges, but we got our first CHAPOLTI and
- 30:49Speaker 2: I can remember sitting across from a gentleman who brought
- 30:52Speaker 2: a folder to breakfast. But yes, I don't take folders.
- 30:58Speaker 2: I didn't know what was in it. He said, you know, hey,
- 31:01Speaker 2: I have some options here. I'm thinking about bringing in
- 31:04Speaker 2: the restaurant and I want you to take a look
- 31:05Speaker 2: at it.
- 31:06Speaker 1: And by the way, listen, she says something again, drop
- 31:09Speaker 1: the mic. Anybody going elected official listening to this, anyone
- 31:13Speaker 1: who wants to go in the government. She said, I
- 31:15Speaker 1: don't take folders.
- 31:17Speaker 3: Uh, that is none of that folder.
- 31:21Speaker 1: That's wisdom there. It could be a set up, by
- 31:24Speaker 1: the way, on top of you shouldn't be doing it. It
- 31:25Speaker 1: should be a set up. Somebody can be sitting around
- 31:27Speaker 1: with a camera waiting for you to grab that folder
- 31:30Speaker 1: or that envelope and they don't know what's in it.
- 31:32Speaker 1: It'd be completely innocent, but they can make it up
- 31:35Speaker 1: and say, oh, that was this person on the tape.
- 31:37Speaker 1: Never take should everything being in public and let them
- 31:41Speaker 1: let the other person unfold what's in the folder. If
- 31:44Speaker 1: somebody wants to give it to you, you don't want
- 31:46Speaker 1: your hands on it, go ahead.
- 31:48Speaker 3: Uh yeah, and believe it or not.
- 31:50Speaker 2: I actually carried along my chief of staff, but you know,
- 31:53Speaker 2: he pushed the folder across the table and I said, well,
- 31:56Speaker 2: you know, of course we need economic development, we need restaurants.
- 32:00Speaker 2: I'm telling you now that if it sells fried chicken,
- 32:02Speaker 2: Friday rice or burgers, it doesn't work for me. And
- 32:04Speaker 2: I just pushed the folder back and never opened it.
- 32:08Speaker 2: But he then said, well in that case. He picked
- 32:11Speaker 2: up his folder and he said, well, what do you
- 32:13Speaker 2: have in mind? So I gave him some options, and
- 32:15Speaker 2: one of the top options I had was Chipolti And
- 32:20Speaker 2: believe it or not, I told him, I said, if
- 32:22Speaker 2: you give me what I'm asking, it will be one
- 32:24Speaker 2: of the top revenue producing franchises in your chain. And
- 32:31Speaker 2: he left and he came back and he said, well,
- 32:34Speaker 2: I got one of the three, and you know we
- 32:36Speaker 2: have two others and they're going to reposition.
- 32:39Speaker 3: So we opened our first Chipolti in South.
- 32:43Speaker 2: Decab and within ninety days it was one of the
- 32:47Speaker 2: top three revenue generating restaurants in the state. And you know,
- 32:55Speaker 2: you know, I told them the outcome. But what I'm
- 32:58Speaker 2: saying to people who may be listening in is, you know,
- 33:00Speaker 2: these were outside investors that came in, but you can
- 33:05Speaker 2: do this. Enfranchising is an easy way to own business
- 33:10Speaker 2: because it already has a model when you choose the
- 33:13Speaker 2: right model, So you know, reach out.
- 33:16Speaker 3: You know, I'm depending on you to help.
- 33:19Speaker 2: Me solve issues in our communities, particularly with economic equity
- 33:26Speaker 2: because right now, you know, John, I hear I've heard
- 33:29Speaker 2: you say it many times, my friend, nothing changes a
- 33:32Speaker 2: community more than a seven hundred credits.
- 33:35Speaker 1: That's right, and you are certainly a model for that.
- 33:38Speaker 1: We went thanks to the CEO who used to be
- 33:43Speaker 1: a commissioner. Operation Hope is active organization. I found it
- 33:48Speaker 1: is active in the cab and converting folks from renters
- 33:51Speaker 1: to homeowners and small business reamers and small business owners.
- 33:54Speaker 1: And we've put up some incredible numbers of achievements tied
- 33:59Speaker 1: to her commissioners and we're looking for doing more in
- 34:03Speaker 1: her in her role as CEO through my nonprofit operation Hope.
- 34:07Speaker 1: So she just gave you a very practical example of
- 34:11Speaker 1: somebody who came in who had some capital and they
- 34:14Speaker 1: had their own idea what they wanted to do. But
- 34:17Speaker 1: at CEO she can say no, I'm not gonna tell
- 34:20Speaker 1: you know on that, but I'm less excited about uh,
- 34:24Speaker 1: you know, X, Y and Z. I'm more excited about
- 34:27Speaker 1: this other thing. I'm not telling you what to do,
- 34:29Speaker 1: but if you do this other thing, it will be
- 34:31Speaker 1: higher on my priority list. And because she was trying to,
- 34:36Speaker 1: she's crafting a vision for the county tied to what
- 34:41Speaker 1: she promised her consistent when she would do as CEO
- 34:44Speaker 1: in time, the degree, the three degrees that she built,
- 34:47Speaker 1: that she that she earns, so she knows, not emotionally,
- 34:51Speaker 1: not emotionally, what a business plan for the county should
- 34:55Speaker 1: look like. She also said something and again another drop
- 34:58Speaker 1: of mic. She said, a friend franchise comes with a
- 35:01Speaker 1: business plan tied to it. So what she means by
- 35:03Speaker 1: that is people interact these words entrepreneur, business person. No, no,
- 35:09Speaker 1: they're not interactive. I'm an entrepreneur of crazy. I am
- 35:12Speaker 1: out of my mind. That's creating something that does not exist.
- 35:16Speaker 1: It's the highest level of achieving a high level of risk.
- 35:19Speaker 1: Corporations are that's a separate situation. A corporation, COVID, col,
- 35:24Speaker 1: et cetera. A business person, a franchise is an existing
- 35:30Speaker 1: business plan. A business person is using an gas station,
- 35:35Speaker 1: a laundry mat, a nail salon, restaurant. And if you
- 35:39Speaker 1: have a restaurant with a franchise on top of it,
- 35:41Speaker 1: we know restaurants work generally, we have a high risk level,
- 35:45Speaker 1: a failure level. But a franchise has approved in business
- 35:48Speaker 1: plan and has a brand attached to it. So she
- 35:51Speaker 1: put all that together and said, I think the best
- 35:55Speaker 1: business eds doing food based on a franchise that's based
- 35:59Speaker 1: on that that as reasonably healthy is in this example.
- 36:05Speaker 1: Am I saying.
- 36:07Speaker 3: Properly to it?
- 36:10Speaker 2: Depends on I guess what what region of the country
- 36:13Speaker 2: you're front French.
- 36:14Speaker 1: Accent on it. So she brilliantly framed this and now
- 36:24Speaker 1: it's high performing and it's win win, and she's encouraging
- 36:27Speaker 1: you others to others out there. That's it.
- 36:32Speaker 2: And let me say, you know, we have across the
- 36:36Speaker 2: cab and most other jurisdiction, either master plans or small
- 36:40Speaker 2: area plans that looks at our twenty thirty up to
- 36:45Speaker 2: twenty thirty for us, and it tells you the types
- 36:49Speaker 2: of developments we want. So when you do or lay
- 36:52Speaker 2: the proper framework, it's easy for you to sit in
- 36:56Speaker 2: front of investors and developers and speak within miracle knowledge
- 37:00Speaker 2: and say, hey, this is the direction we're heading.
- 37:03Speaker 1: Inable is there a version of it?
- 37:07Speaker 2: Get Oh, absolutely it is. It is on our website.
- 37:10Speaker 2: And also, you know, I want to because I'm so
- 37:13Speaker 2: big on economic development, because it's so important to our communities.
- 37:19Speaker 2: You know, we have decided the Cab Development Authority. So
- 37:23Speaker 2: for those who are interested in owning a business, then
- 37:26Speaker 2: reach out to our office. We will connect you. The
- 37:30Speaker 2: more prepared you are, the quicker we can get you
- 37:32Speaker 2: across the finish line. Everyone needs a business plan. Most
- 37:36Speaker 2: businesses don't plan to fail, they fail to plan. Come
- 37:40Speaker 2: to us with the data, that information, the resources. Also
- 37:45Speaker 2: let us help you because a lot of folks don't understand.
- 37:48Speaker 2: There are enhanced incentives for doing business and Opportunity and
- 37:52Speaker 2: Empowerment Zones areas that are identified by the Cab County
- 37:57Speaker 2: as well as the government as being in the the revitalization.
- 38:01Speaker 2: So right now I'm urging people to do business along
- 38:04Speaker 2: Memorial Drive, along Candler Road, along Columbia Road, because for us,
- 38:10Speaker 2: those areas are transitioning quickly.
- 38:13Speaker 3: And you know, we can talk all you know about what.
- 38:17Speaker 2: We're seeing in terms of property values and the rises there.
- 38:20Speaker 2: But John, I have to go back as you have
- 38:24Speaker 2: and say that you know, through Operation Hope, you know
- 38:27Speaker 2: we have issued more than twenty million dollars with your
- 38:31Speaker 2: assistance in home loans and first time down payment assistance
- 38:37Speaker 2: to create new homeowners and that's only been through you
- 38:41Speaker 2: and the assistance that we receive from your partners.
- 38:46Speaker 3: And education is really the key.
- 38:49Speaker 2: Education and access are the two biggest incumbrances to success.
- 38:54Speaker 1: Yes, she and I are both passionate about financial literacy
- 38:58Speaker 1: as a civil rights issue that generations which and then
- 39:00Speaker 1: get your credits corrupt and energy goes up, your cost
- 39:04Speaker 1: the credit goes down. If the Cab County was a
- 39:06Speaker 1: standalone economy, for those listening to this, it would be
- 39:10Speaker 1: the size of a small nation. So just so you understand,
- 39:15Speaker 1: fifty two billion dollars a year is the size of
- 39:19Speaker 1: many small nations in the world. It's a big, big deal.
- 39:23Speaker 1: And the CEO that you're listening to has more influence
- 39:29Speaker 1: and impact on the potential opportunity of your life than
- 39:33Speaker 1: most folks that you pay attention to who are household names.
- 39:37Speaker 1: I need for Lorraine Johnson to become a household name
- 39:40Speaker 1: in your mind. I need for you to find the
- 39:43Speaker 1: Lorraine Johnson's in the nation or her peers and get
- 39:48Speaker 1: to know them and their criteria as well. And I
- 39:53Speaker 1: don't want you passing envelopes across the table to her.
- 39:57Speaker 1: I want you pushing business plans across the table to her.
- 40:00Speaker 1: In fact, I want you to upload the business plan
- 40:02Speaker 1: to her website. Deal with staff. It drives me nuts,
- 40:05Speaker 1: all right when people come to me and they think
- 40:08Speaker 1: that old school leadership. I got to reach Joah O'Brian.
- 40:11Speaker 1: I got to tell him my dream. No, no, no, you
- 40:13Speaker 1: need to go to my financial coaches. You need to
- 40:14Speaker 1: go to my team, my staff. Institutionalization of opportunity, we've
- 40:22Speaker 1: got to I consider myself an economic plumber. I know
- 40:26Speaker 1: you do as well. We've never talked about it this way,
- 40:29Speaker 1: but I know that's the way you think. We're creating
- 40:31Speaker 1: the infrastructure, the plumbing, so that people can plug into
- 40:37Speaker 1: opportunity at scales. So I consider you a perfect bridge
- 40:46Speaker 1: between public sector power and private sector wealth creation. I
- 40:54Speaker 1: also consider yourself you to be an efficiency leader in government,
- 40:59Speaker 1: which frustrates you because you see so much inefficiency. Can
- 41:02Speaker 1: you tell the audience one or two examples and when
- 41:05Speaker 1: you came in office the mess that you see, because
- 41:08Speaker 1: by the way, she's in charge. If you see a
- 41:10Speaker 1: the Cab County law enforcement officer, she's their boss. I
- 41:14Speaker 1: mean indirectly, you see the Cab County electrician.
- 41:21Speaker 2: Electrical Yeah, roads and drainage. It all comes down. And
- 41:28Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to give you an example. And
- 41:30Speaker 2: we've not talked about this, but when I came into office,
- 41:34Speaker 2: it's really important for you to understand what you're dealing with.
- 41:38Speaker 2: So I brought in an outside consultant. We retained the
- 41:41Speaker 2: firm Maldon and Jenkins, and they did an assessment of
- 41:46Speaker 2: my eighteen consumer facing departments.
- 41:50Speaker 3: And I say consumers because.
- 41:51Speaker 2: A lot of people I think in government have failed
- 41:54Speaker 2: to realize government is a service provider.
- 41:58Speaker 3: You are the consumer. And when that study was done, we.
- 42:05Speaker 2: Looked at how we could begin increasing revenue because a
- 42:09Speaker 2: lot of people have not looked at government as being
- 42:12Speaker 2: an income generating vehicle just delivering services. So when we
- 42:18Speaker 2: looked at those departments where there was potential, one of
- 42:22Speaker 2: the departments, well, PDK, the Cab County is home to
- 42:26Speaker 2: the second largest and busiest airport in the state of Georgia,
- 42:31Speaker 2: Peach Tree Cab Airport. And you know, the buildings there
- 42:35Speaker 2: were old. You know, there was need for capital improvements.
- 42:38Speaker 2: And I looked at the balance sheet because I come
- 42:41Speaker 2: from corporate America, and I said, well, you know what's
- 42:44Speaker 2: going on here. I don't see the revenue. And as
- 42:46Speaker 2: we started to talk, they said, well, there's something we
- 42:49Speaker 2: can do that we've never done, and that is charge
- 42:54Speaker 2: transient landing fees.
- 42:55Speaker 1: I love this example. You're and I talked about this.
- 42:58Speaker 1: I'm so glad to bring this up. Please everybody pay
- 43:01Speaker 1: close attention. This is part of the brilliance of Lorraine Johnson.
- 43:06Speaker 1: This is very simple, but it's never been done. It's
- 43:08Speaker 1: brillat go ahead.
- 43:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 43:10Speaker 2: So they said, well, one of the ways we could
- 43:12Speaker 2: generate revenue we've never done it is from transient landing fees.
- 43:16Speaker 2: Now at p K Airport, of course, we have hangars
- 43:19Speaker 2: and we have a resident aircrafts and they pay a
- 43:22Speaker 2: monthly fee for having their their hanger.
- 43:25Speaker 1: This is a private airport, right.
- 43:27Speaker 2: It is a private airport, so with but it is
- 43:33Speaker 2: the second busiest in the state of Georgia and desirable. Yeah,
- 43:43Speaker 2: home depots aircraft is their waffle house. I could go
- 43:46Speaker 2: on and on. Uh So, when we looked at just
- 43:50Speaker 2: charging a transient landing fee, meaning if you're flying in
- 43:54Speaker 2: on my TARAAC, if you're landing on my runway.
- 43:58Speaker 3: You owe me.
- 43:59Speaker 2: You don't get to just bring your aircraft in and out.
- 44:03Speaker 3: You need to pay me each way.
- 44:06Speaker 2: So with that being said, we institute a transient landing
- 44:09Speaker 2: fees and those alone will generate one point eight million
- 44:12Speaker 2: dollars in Now, this is not We're.
- 44:16Speaker 1: Not We're not We're not talking about any onerous. We're
- 44:19Speaker 1: not talking about jamming people love. We're not talking about
- 44:21Speaker 1: hating capitalism. No, no, no no. She just saying, look,
- 44:24Speaker 1: you're using my termac every time you land. It causes
- 44:28Speaker 1: damage every time you take all but qut create stress.
- 44:30Speaker 1: My team has to do support work and there's a crisis.
- 44:33Speaker 1: I got to provide emergency services to come there. You
- 44:36Speaker 1: know that you're pulling on the electricity, you're pulling on
- 44:38Speaker 1: the plumbing grid. So she's she's saying, we are partners,
- 44:43Speaker 1: we're partners. You're not paying me the county a partnership fee.
- 44:47Speaker 1: So she just added an incremental, non painful, reasonable, yes,
- 44:54Speaker 1: transient fee which they won't even notice. Really, that allows
- 45:00Speaker 1: her to generate more revenue for you. If you think
- 45:04Speaker 1: about this, the county basically a multi billion dollar business,
- 45:08Speaker 1: and you're the stakeholders. You're the citizens, the citizens and
- 45:11Speaker 1: the shareholders. And so she just gave the shareholders a
- 45:14Speaker 1: dividend return.
- 45:15Speaker 2: Yes, and we've done that, and I'll give you another
- 45:19Speaker 2: solid example. But also I have to share this. I
- 45:22Speaker 2: begin to monitor cell phone usage and I said, okay,
- 45:27Speaker 2: I want to do an audit of cell phones because
- 45:29Speaker 2: I see these folks aren't answering these phones.
- 45:32Speaker 1: So I follow the audience I've been trying to get.
- 45:34Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to this version of the rain
- 45:37Speaker 1: for forty minutes. This is the rain I love, right,
- 45:40Speaker 1: she getting to it now? PSDs are good, PAHs ds
- 45:42Speaker 1: are better, okay.
- 45:43Speaker 3: Pe Yeah.
- 45:44Speaker 2: So I engaged our carrier, Verizon, and I said, I
- 45:48Speaker 2: need you to do an audit of our phones and
- 45:52Speaker 2: as of today, for a sixty day window. Every phone
- 45:56Speaker 2: that is not utilized, I want you to turn it off. Well, John,
- 46:01Speaker 2: that resulted in five hundred and sixty two phones being
- 46:05Speaker 2: disconnected that were counting issue. It resulted in us saving
- 46:10Speaker 2: over nineteen thousand dollars a month and two hundred and
- 46:14Speaker 2: thirty eight thousand dollars a year, almost a quarter million
- 46:18Speaker 2: dollars by shutting off phones from people who didn't even
- 46:21Speaker 2: realize as many instance as they had been turned off.
- 46:25Speaker 2: So you know that worked well. Also too, we have
- 46:29Speaker 2: began building our own portfolio. You know, we did something
- 46:32Speaker 2: recently for the first time the vehicle was present.
- 46:35Speaker 3: We never constituted big words of rain.
- 46:39Speaker 1: If you don't know what's the building your own portfolio
- 46:41Speaker 1: in what?
- 46:42Speaker 2: Okay, let's in terms of.
- 46:48Speaker 3: Assets. Yes, we're building an asset portfolio in the cab.
- 46:53Speaker 2: So we were looking at housing because there's this huge
- 46:56Speaker 2: need and we set aside eight million dollars and we
- 46:59Speaker 2: had a part to present themselves and say, hey, for
- 47:02Speaker 2: eight million dollars, we will purchase a set of apartments.
- 47:08Speaker 2: We will give you a six year lease and we
- 47:10Speaker 2: can renew, well, we can negotiate again at the end
- 47:13Speaker 2: of the six year period. Well, you know, I called
- 47:16Speaker 2: in given three meters the data on this apartment community
- 47:21Speaker 2: and actually they were town homes. And when I looked
- 47:24Speaker 2: at the dollar value, I said, well, why aren't we
- 47:27Speaker 2: purchasing this and why are we doing a contract for
- 47:31Speaker 2: the management of the facility within? Because why would I
- 47:36Speaker 2: give you my money to go and purchase a facility
- 47:39Speaker 2: that I now rent from you and I have a
- 47:42Speaker 2: six year window and we're back at this again. I
- 47:45Speaker 2: can own it because when we ran the numbers and
- 47:49Speaker 2: put together the capital stack, it would be an income
- 47:53Speaker 2: generating vehicle. So that's what we did. We decided, hey,
- 47:57Speaker 2: we like you as a partner. We're willing to do
- 48:00Speaker 2: your contract for you to manage the facility because we
- 48:03Speaker 2: are not as a government in the business of managing
- 48:06Speaker 2: apartment communities, but we will own it. So the Cab
- 48:10Speaker 2: County purchased its first and that's the first in our
- 48:13Speaker 2: portfolio of real estate that is county owned. Previously, we
- 48:18Speaker 2: would give our money to the the Cab Housing Authority
- 48:22Speaker 2: and other external entities and sign some form of agreement
- 48:27Speaker 2: for use. So that was really great too. So we
- 48:31Speaker 2: invested the audience.
- 48:34Speaker 1: She didn't scream, She didn't holler, she didn't raise her voice,
- 48:39Speaker 1: she didn't curse nobody else. She wasn't emotional, she wasn't reactive,
- 48:44Speaker 1: she wasn't personal, she didn't call out anybody's names. She
- 48:49Speaker 1: was professional. Because when you have the power, you don't
- 48:52Speaker 1: need to use it and there's no need to scream
- 48:55Speaker 1: and holler when you know what you're talking about. This
- 48:57Speaker 1: is the kind of leader you need. And she gave
- 48:59Speaker 1: you three examples. Now, one at the infrastructure level, one
- 49:05Speaker 1: at a fee level, and one at a private sector
- 49:08Speaker 1: partnership level that I'm sure, yeah, yeah. One was that
- 49:12Speaker 1: infrastructure with the restaurant, the feed level, that's the PDK,
- 49:18Speaker 1: the airport, and now she's giving you one at the
- 49:21Speaker 1: ground level, and this is where leakage happens in a government.
- 49:25Speaker 1: And then when we were talking about fraud and waste,
- 49:28Speaker 1: they really most people are not Most people are not crooks.
- 49:31Speaker 1: Most people are not maliciously trying to rob the city.
- 49:35Speaker 1: They're just financially illiterate. They don't know what they're doing.
- 49:41Speaker 2: And John, I have to say you are correct. And
- 49:44Speaker 2: let me say I've seen in government things that would
- 49:47Speaker 2: be acceptable in my home, if that makes sense, because
- 49:52Speaker 2: it just wouldn't be a wise investment. And one last example,
- 49:56Speaker 2: because you will appreciate this if you didn't read about it.
- 50:00Speaker 3: I was brought a lease to renew it.
- 50:03Speaker 2: And when I opened up the folder and started to read,
- 50:07Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, my god, how long have we.
- 50:10Speaker 3: Been at this?
- 50:10Speaker 2: So that forty three eighty Memorial Drive, which is a
- 50:14Speaker 2: known facility building because it houses both our tax commissioner
- 50:18Speaker 2: and our Office of Voter Registration.
- 50:20Speaker 3: Oh, this it was up for renewal on my watch.
- 50:25Speaker 2: Yeah, And when I pulled all the information, I said,
- 50:29Speaker 2: my god, how long have we been renting here?
- 50:31Speaker 3: I thought we owned it?
- 50:33Speaker 2: And short story, we had been renting the facility for
- 50:38Speaker 2: twenty eight years. Okay, at the time we started renting it,
- 50:43Speaker 2: and it was the original home depot in the state
- 50:46Speaker 2: of Georgia, the very first at that location, it was
- 50:51Speaker 2: only valued at like one point eight million, but now
- 50:55Speaker 2: it was valued at eighteen point five. But what I
- 50:57Speaker 2: found peculiar is in the twenty eight years of rent,
- 51:02Speaker 2: we had invested eighteen point nine million in rent, another
- 51:06Speaker 2: eight point six in capital improvements, and the balance we
- 51:11Speaker 2: also had any agreement we paid the taxes to ourselves.
- 51:14Speaker 2: Cool imagine that we could have abated the taxes, being
- 51:18Speaker 2: as how it's our you know, building. So I said, no,
- 51:21Speaker 2: we're not doing this. So you know, I now have
- 51:25Speaker 2: our first chief development officers. So I sent Jacob Valo
- 51:28Speaker 2: over and I said, Jacob, you have to tell them.
- 51:31Speaker 2: Plus it needs a three million dollar roof. They're not
- 51:33Speaker 2: going to find another us. The building's not in the
- 51:36Speaker 2: best repair, so either they can sell it or we'll vacate.
- 51:40Speaker 2: And god knows, I didn't know where those folks were going,
- 51:43Speaker 2: but we had already We bought the building for eighteen
- 51:48Speaker 2: point five after spending in rent almost twenty nine million dollars.
- 51:53Speaker 1: You bought it for eighteen you had spent rent.
- 51:55Speaker 3: Of twenty twenty eight point like, yeah.
- 52:01Speaker 1: Almost double. And that's why I tell people. And then
- 52:04Speaker 1: you can take this back again. She said, we do
- 52:07Speaker 1: things in government, but we don't do in our own
- 52:10Speaker 1: household We wouldn't allow in our own households. But it's
- 52:12Speaker 1: not just that, no one washes rental cars if you
- 52:15Speaker 1: don't own it. And she's got an ownership mentality about
- 52:18Speaker 1: the county, and everybody in the county should be thankful
- 52:21Speaker 1: for her. And by the way, I want to commend
- 52:23Speaker 1: Michael Thurman that came before her. She's building on a
- 52:26Speaker 1: solo foundation. He's a good man and he did a
- 52:28Speaker 1: good job as well. She's just upgrading in software in
- 52:31Speaker 1: her own way. So uh so, so when I say
- 52:36Speaker 1: nobody washes rental cars, matter how nice you are, you
- 52:41Speaker 1: take the rental car with all the dirt that's been
- 52:43Speaker 1: accumulated on it back to the owner, which is the
- 52:47Speaker 1: rental car company, and let them wash it. So if
- 52:49Speaker 1: you are going in, if your mentality is I'm just
- 52:52Speaker 1: an employee in late long lunch, leave early, right, it's
- 52:56Speaker 1: not mine. You don't kill the contract you're writing. It's
- 52:58Speaker 1: all just so. She's but she's looking at the long
- 53:02Speaker 1: narrative and saying she's looking at an amortization schedule. Please
- 53:05Speaker 1: look that up if you don't know what it is,
- 53:06Speaker 1: everybody an amortization schedule, how something looks over time in
- 53:10Speaker 1: a financial transaction. And if you look at it over
- 53:13Speaker 1: an amortization schedule, why would you long term want a
- 53:16Speaker 1: rent when you can own. You're paying yourself. She's paying
- 53:21Speaker 1: some outside vendor and then has to pay for the
- 53:24Speaker 1: pleasure of keeping it up and paying property taxes back
- 53:28Speaker 1: to herself. I mean, this is crazy, but this applies
- 53:31Speaker 1: to you owning a home. You listening to this, whether
- 53:35Speaker 1: you're the cab or wherever else. I'm a landlord. I
- 53:39Speaker 1: was a huge prayer in the cab by the way.
- 53:41Speaker 1: As a landlord, I'm encouraging you to go for rent
- 53:45Speaker 1: to own, And she went and did that for the
- 53:49Speaker 1: county and Loreena I'm thinking about. I don't want to
- 53:53Speaker 1: embarrass a city, but Chicago sold Chicago Leice thirty six
- 54:00Speaker 1: thousand parking meters for seventy five years and they got
- 54:05Speaker 1: an advanced payment of about a billion dollars. Those parking
- 54:10Speaker 1: meters are concernedly worth right now for a billion.
- 54:15Speaker 2: I know, I heard of that. That is a great
- 54:19Speaker 2: case study for students in government because you know, and
- 54:26Speaker 2: when I say you have to do what makes sense.
- 54:28Speaker 2: If you didn't come from waste, you you can't do
- 54:32Speaker 2: this in good faith and to be honest. For some people,
- 54:35Speaker 2: it may feel like government money because government is just
- 54:38Speaker 2: moved in this way. It's normal, but it's not good business.
- 54:44Speaker 2: And I think that's where.
- 54:45Speaker 3: We have to get.
- 54:46Speaker 2: And even with people who are listening, because I know
- 54:49Speaker 2: you're all about wealth, you're all about empowerment.
- 54:53Speaker 3: And I deal a lot with fact.
- 54:55Speaker 2: Because I was always taught people line numbers, don't what's
- 54:59Speaker 2: the numbers. We look at the numbers, and I believe
- 55:02Speaker 2: the number is like about eighty percent of African American
- 55:06Speaker 2: wealth in particular is directly linked.
- 55:08Speaker 3: To home ownership. So if you have no home, you
- 55:10Speaker 3: have no weapon.
- 55:12Speaker 2: So when we you know, it's not acceptible to be
- 55:15Speaker 2: a lifelong renter because there's no benefit. Either you're going
- 55:19Speaker 2: to pay for someone else's or you will pay for yours.
- 55:23Speaker 2: So you have to create a level of comfort. And
- 55:25Speaker 2: also there's a lot of people who've never been told
- 55:28Speaker 2: you can, so bridging the gap to resources so people
- 55:34Speaker 2: understand financial literacy so that they understand that they can
- 55:38Speaker 2: own that you're not sentenced to where you are because
- 55:42Speaker 2: your zip code shouldn't determine your outcome. These are, you know,
- 55:48Speaker 2: so important because you know, if you want to talk housing,
- 55:53Speaker 2: I think it was twenty twenty three that I actually
- 55:57Speaker 2: did a housing study through Ernst.
- 55:59Speaker 3: In a winter out.
- 56:05Speaker 2: And when that study came back, it showed that in
- 56:09Speaker 2: order for an individual earning minimum wage, and I have
- 56:12Speaker 2: a big problem with what I'm about to say, but
- 56:15Speaker 2: earning minimum wage in the metro Atlanta area, you would
- 56:19Speaker 2: need to work one hundred and forty hours a week
- 56:22Speaker 2: to afford a two bedroom to their apartment.
- 56:27Speaker 3: That is not sustainable.
- 56:29Speaker 2: And America is creating a huge economic divide. We're becoming
- 56:35Speaker 2: an America of the haves and the have nots, and
- 56:39Speaker 2: we have to do better because there's consequences for everyone
- 56:46Speaker 2: that is at the table. We cannot allow this economic
- 56:51Speaker 2: divide to occur. To do more to foster trade opportunities.
- 56:58Speaker 2: It's bigger than just and you know, oftentimes and we
- 57:01Speaker 2: talk about criminal justice, but we don't talk about the
- 57:04Speaker 2: fact that economics is the number one factor in crime.
- 57:09Speaker 2: So if you solve the economic problem, you solve the
- 57:11Speaker 2: crime problem.
- 57:12Speaker 1: All a drug dealer is is a legal, an ethical entrepreneur,
- 57:16Speaker 1: a bad business plan, import, exports, finance, marketing, wholesale, retail,
- 57:20Speaker 1: customer service, security, territory logistics HR. So that's why that's
- 57:24Speaker 1: why I love That's why I love you. You went
- 57:27Speaker 1: to the prison, You're like, nah, I don't want to
- 57:29Speaker 1: stay here very long, and you shouldn't want to be
- 57:31Speaker 1: here either, and you like, let me cret a situation
- 57:34Speaker 1: to either make sure you don't get here in the
- 57:36Speaker 1: first place, or I believe at some point I want
- 57:39Speaker 1: to bring our one MVB one million Black business initiative
- 57:42Speaker 1: and just one uh this a business creation initiative your
- 57:45Speaker 1: respective of race to prisons. He's a natural entrepreneurs teaching
- 57:50Speaker 1: financial literacy, teach them business, teach them entrepreneurship, and help
- 57:54Speaker 1: them go from the streets to the suites. And you know,
- 57:57Speaker 1: that's one of the many conversations you want to you know, have.
- 58:00Speaker 2: Over time, and you have to get t I on
- 58:02Speaker 2: the show. Also, we were together for two days in
- 58:06Speaker 2: a row at different events.
- 58:09Speaker 3: Yeah, he he.
- 58:10Speaker 2: He talked about the fact that he was about as
- 58:12Speaker 2: bad a kid as you would find, but he had
- 58:16Speaker 2: to redirect it and that happened largely through his uncle
- 58:20Speaker 2: who took some of his money and invested it and
- 58:23Speaker 2: started flipping houses. And he saw the huge return there
- 58:26Speaker 2: and he said, well, hey, now I need to move
- 58:28Speaker 2: this over to the to to to.
- 58:30Speaker 3: To commercial properties.
- 58:32Speaker 2: And you know, recently built his first low income housing
- 58:36Speaker 2: development and I want him to do the same in
- 58:40Speaker 2: the cab.
- 58:41Speaker 1: With people don't realize he's a proper businessman.
- 58:45Speaker 2: Yes he is, and and I'm very proud of that,
- 58:49Speaker 2: because the you know, success is failure turned inside out.
- 58:54Speaker 2: I'm thankful that he was able to realize that there
- 58:58Speaker 2: was a different way. And we have an entire group
- 59:01Speaker 2: of young people out there now.
- 59:03Speaker 3: Who just need giants.
- 59:05Speaker 1: That's right. As we this has been a beautiful one
- 59:14Speaker 1: hour together, and you and I could talk literally all
- 59:17Speaker 1: afternoon together if we have the time. Uh, as we
- 59:21Speaker 1: wrap this up, and I do believe he would have
- 59:23Speaker 1: gotten a chance now that I've pushed you and prodded
- 59:26Speaker 1: you to see the brilliance of you. You're very humble,
- 59:29Speaker 1: but that but that was that was that light went on,
- 59:32Speaker 1: It didn't go off. What are some what are some
- 59:36Speaker 1: pearls of wisdom that you can leave with this audience
- 59:39Speaker 1: as a little girl listening to you, a young girl,
- 59:42Speaker 1: a young woman listening to you, a woman trying who
- 59:45Speaker 1: thinks that her life is not fulfilled, or frankly, a
- 59:49Speaker 1: man or a family, or somebody trying to reset their
- 59:53Speaker 1: life and become a business person because they were laid off. Uh,
- 59:57Speaker 1: just somebody who's losing hope. What practical examples do you
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: have for them? Because I think you're a great role
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: model for that. But also the other thing. What example,
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: what advice do you have for government public sector leaders
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: that you can now give them the benefit of now
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: being a cutting edge CEO of one of the biggest
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: counties in the biggest economy in the world.
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: I'll start with other electeds and business leaders for you know,
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: for me being in the governmental space, I have to
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: stay with leaders.
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: I often say John that there's a difference between an
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: elected official and a politician.
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: And I am an elected official, Okay.
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: I came into this position and within one hundred and
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: forty five no, yeah, within forty.
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: Five days, I had to pass.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: The largest water rate increase in the history of the
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: State of Georgia.
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: Didn't even know.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: All I knew is what was necessary to meet the
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: consent decree that we were under because we were not
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: in compliance. So with that being said, I don't care
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: who you are, but at some point in your life,
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: you have to detach yourself from what is popular and
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: simply do what is necessary and if you are willing
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: to do that, because you know, I'm so grateful that
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: I was so naive and ignorant that when I got
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: in politics, I did not realize honestly what I was
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: truly embarking upon. But now I have come to realize.
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: You know, I will never run a race that I
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: haven't already won because whatever is for you, it will
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: present itself. And you know there's other opportunities. And I
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: don't want to go biblical, but your gift will make
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: prood for you whatever that may be. So don't allow
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: other people to define who you are and where you go.
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: Study to show yourself a pood. I've been doing that
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: all my life, and knowledge is something that people can't
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: take away from you. So if you're discouraged, we don't
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: all start at the same place, but it's up to
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: you where you end up. Don't think someone is gonna
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: come and level the playing field for you. You acknowledge the
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: playing field and you master it, and that's what will
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: get you across that finish line. Seek people who can
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: help you. You know, John, you often say if you're
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: the smartest person in your group, you need to find
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: a new group. Then I could tell you so many
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: things that mentors. And also I want to say, reach
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: across the aisle. I don't care whether black, white, you
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: know brown. I have friends of all humans, and many
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: of them are incredible and dynamic business people like John
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: that have taught me business principles and how to maneuver
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: and make money and how also to create wealth for
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: future generations, where to invest, so you know, the conversations
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: that you have are very important. You know, invest in
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: yourself and then at the end of the day find me.
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: I often when I speak with young people, I pass
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: out this little postcard and I say, take this home,
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: because I was always taught if it's really important, put
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: it in your soft drawer. Okay, if it's really important.
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: My grandmother they put that in the sock drawer. So
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: I tell the children, take this home. Put it in
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: your soft drawer. If you need a letter of recommendation,
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: if you find yourself in a position of adversity, if
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: you need guidance, if you simply need to have a conversation,
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: as long as you have that card, you have help.
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: You can call me.
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: So that should be the mentality of elected officials, because
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we have an enormous
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: amount of resources, information and opportunities, and if I'm not
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: helping you, then I'm failing miserably. So determine what you
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: want to do. I'm not going to quote a poem.
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: But there's a poem out there called equipment that I
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: saw for the first time probably oh my God, as
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: a student at Auburn University. But the poem was at Tuski.
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: And you have all that the greatest have had to
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: the orange, two hands, to a braid and eyes and
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: a mind. The use of you would be wise. So
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: this is up to you. With that equipment, they all begin,
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: So start for the top and say you can. It's
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: really up to you. And John, thank you for being
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: a true leader, a visionary and a person who cares
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: about people and sharing knowledge. You have been given an
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: enormous opportunity because that's your lane, that's your life, and
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: it shows yous and you are truly making a difference
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: in the community.
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: So thank you.
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: Well. I'm honored by that and clearly I respected to
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: admire you. You my first county official in the country
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: on my podcast, and I don't do things without thinking
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: about it. Everything's intentional. I wanted to profile you as
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: a role model. I've been watching you for a very
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: long time, observing you. You're such a beautiful example of
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: excellence in operation. And one of the things I would
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: translate that Loraine said CEO Johnson. By the way she said, basically,
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: that'd interpret it. I'd rather you respect me and learn
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: to like me than like me and never respect me.
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: Life is way overrated you guys, and don't take shortcuts. Look,
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: if you're a person of color listening to this or
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: watching this, please hear me. You're born in probation in America.
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: You have to be twice as intelligent, twice as well addressed.
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: You know, twice as early, stay twice as late, work
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: twice as art, get half the pay. That's okay, that's
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: just the way it is. But haters make you better,
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: and don't take shortcuts. There's somebody watching waiting for you
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: to stumble, and somebody at another table. It's a setup
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: waiting for you to take that envelope and take what's
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: inside of it. The person pushed the envelope to you
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: is sit there to set you up. They hope you
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: take the envelope so they can be put you on
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: the front the front page of the news. Front page
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: of the newspaper. Send you to a theatric's class, which
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: is court. Play this out a little bit of a
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: little overtime. Drip drip, drip, destroy your credibility over time,
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: send you to prison, change you from a business suit
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: to an orange suit. And now the reputation of people
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: of color is that see that person is slicks to
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: that person is a criminal. We got to change that
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: stuff on this and we are better than this. And
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: she is an example of operating at the level of excellence.
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: My man, our friend mayor Andre Dickens another is it
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: operating at the level of excellence. He's not black for
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: a living. He's a great leader who happens to be black,
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: right running eight hundred of sorry father, a billion dollar economy.
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: That's the citium. We can do this. She's an example
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: of that. And take her up in her offer. Do
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: your research before you go chating with her and asking
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: her for her time. Don't waste her time. Do your
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: research so that when you have when you get a
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: chance to get ten to fifteen minutes whe her, you're
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: an investment, not a cost on her schedule. CEO, Jonathan,
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: thank you very much.
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: Thank you, John.
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: You and I'll look forward to catching up with each
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: other soon. Have a good rest of the day, God
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: bless you.
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