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I’m telling you Sage is out of his depth — my brutal take after the Ipswich loss · Team of the eighties

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  Hi there, my name is Gary Spencer, this is team of the 80s.
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  And just One other reminder, September 22nd in the International break, I'll be having Andy Gray on the podcast.
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  So we had the interview, I'm editing it.
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  It's really, really good and is so honest and open and there's some great stories in there, particularly if you remember that.
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  Crystal Palace, Liverpool FA cup semi final.
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  Some really, really great stories.
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  So looking forward to that.
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  Right, on with this week's show.
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  Ipswich.
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  I don't know what to say really about Ipswich yet.
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  We had a man sent off but it's which are a newly promoted side and they're away from home, right?
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  And whatever anybody thinks about the recruitment through the summer, we've got enough players in that squad to overcome it.
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  Switch.
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  Right.
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  In fact, let me counter with this argument.
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  If we'd have played them in the Carabao cup, we'd have put out a much weaker side than we did on Saturday, right?
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  And we'd have probably got a result, who knows.
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  But the thing is, it's not, this is going to be a big criticism of Sarge.
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  Again, it's not how he picks the team or where he picks the team.
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  It's also what he does in game, right?
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  So let's start off with how he picks the team.
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  Anderson is not playing, right?
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  He's your captain.
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  We're already struggling clearly with leaders.
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  If you, if, if your goalkeeper is the captain, that's the first thing.
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  Second of all, you've got use on the bench who not only leads by just being his character, but he leads by example, meaning that he gets on the ball, he makes things happen, he crunches tackles and he plays
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  in the middle of the park.
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  So for me, as soon as Henderson's not playing, particularly when you're playing in a team which isn't doing well, which is Crystal palace by the way, for those of you that don't know, you put using and you put
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  him in as your skipper, right?
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  So you have a bit of leadership in and around midfield.
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  Second of all, when he's bringing on the subs, I, I just don't understand his substitutions.
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  I do not understand them.
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  Sarge for me is out of his depth and I've said it a couple of times or alluded to it a couple of times and now I'm telling you Sarge is out of his depth and Keep trying to cover
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  things up by either throwing some players under the bus, but covering for SA.
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  SAR's never had a groin injury.
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  Never.
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  It was well known that the day he came out, just before the window closed, he was training on his own, he was running around on his own.
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  Right?
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  Don't think Sar's injured.
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  I don't think Mateta's injured.
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  I think Mateta was told to go off for a month over that transfer window.
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  I don't think he's injured.
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  And then other players, he's thrown under the bus.
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  So you, you gotta, you gotta establish yourself in a dressing room and get results in a dressing room before you start coming out and saying certain things publicly.
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  It takes time to do that.
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  And even the people that have been doing it a long time, they don't do it every week.
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  Right?
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  Right.
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  And some don't do it at all.
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  They just get results and they've just got their own way of leadership.
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  Sarge is, is for me, he's out of his debt.
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  So that's, that's one thing.
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  The game itself, we were, I, I felt we were holding on really, even with the red card.
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  You could, so many palace fans are like, oh, the red card, the red card, the red card.
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  You see Man City and people are going to say, oh yeah, it's Man City.
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  They got millions of dollars of, of players out there.
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  Yeah, they have, but so have Manchester United and City were away from home and, you know, they just found a way.
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  They changed the system.
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  Mares could change the system.
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  Sarge could have changed the system on, on Saturday.
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  My thing is, is that we are not at the moment protecting the point.
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  Right?
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  So we're not even getting a draw out of certain games.
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  At the very least against Ipswich, we should have got a draw at the very least, right?
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  And we didn't.
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  And you know now how important those three points were at Fulham.
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  God knows how we got those, but we got them.
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  But three points, you look at the division, just because we won that game, we're a lot higher than maybe we should be.
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  Because by the way we're playing, we should be rock bottom, Trust me.
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  Wharton again, non existent.
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  And when he was existent, way below average.
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  Not getting involved enough.
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  Certainly not a captain.
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  Why he gave him the armband?
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  I don't, I do not know.
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  Why would you give Walton the armband?
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  He's obviously not like overflowing in confidence.
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  He's not the most vocal of people out there and he's not playing by example.
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  So why you give him the armband?
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  Right, just get Wharton concentrating on playing his football because right now he hasn't and he hasn't done it for a while.
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  Said it in the other podcast.
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  Tuko is nowhere near picking Morton anytime soon and neither should he.
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  Wharton's been dreadful.
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  Timber, I thought Timber was great.
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  I thought that was one sign on Saturday of something positive.
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  I thought Timber did very, very well for us.
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  So good to see him in there and I think he'll be a player for us.
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  By the way.
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  I think Gozo will be a play for us too.
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  But right now he's getting asked to come on with 10 minutes to play and we're losing.
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  Gozo, for me, should have started against Middlesbrough and when then we'd have got a bit more confidence out of him when we'd have seen exactly what he's about.
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  So, yeah, those are the pluses and the minuses for me.
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  One thing I've noticed as well lately in the game, not just at Crystal palace, but everywhere, the love of players getting their wrists strapped up and banshees up and the excuses given is that, well, it's going to protect
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  them if they fall over.
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  Well, as football has suddenly started falling over then, because suddenly we've got like two or three players per team with their wrists strapped up.
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  I haven't seen one injury yet of a player that's done his wrist.
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  So to me, I think that's some kind of statement, some kind of fashion statement.
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  I don't know what it is, but it, it's.
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  It needs to be stopped.
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  If I was, if I was in the dressing room as a trainer or a medical person before the game.
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  This is where the game's changed now because players run whatever goes on.
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  And the player said to me, can you.
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  I know what would have happened in the 70s and 80s at palace with Charlie Simpson if you just said to the.
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  The physio strapped my wrist up, he told you, go yourself.
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  That's a fact.
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  So I just do not know what's going on with the wrist strapping.
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  Maybe you guys in your likes or your comments can, can educate me, educate me, please, on why the risks are getting strapped up.
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  The Euro, the European games Thursday and Sunday, everyone.
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  I saw a comment this morning on Twitter about we should really give it our all and hopefully qualify for the Champions League if we win it.
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  We just lost to Ipswich at home, right?
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  Get real.
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  We ain't gonna win the Europa League.
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  We're not.
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  We just about scraped through Europa Conference without going down.
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  We're not going to win Europa League.
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  Right.
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  Get it out your heads.
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  Let's just concentrate on staying in the Premier League.
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  That's where the bread and butter is.
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  And if you're worried about the money that Paris is spending now in the Premier League, wow.
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  You better be really concerned about what he would spend if he dropped down the Championship.
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  Yeah.
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  Thursday and Sunday is not going to suit this squad right now.
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  It didn't suit it last year.
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  We just scraped through and it's not going to suit us this year for sure, the way we're playing.
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  So get real.
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  Yeah, I get it.
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  For a fan's perspective.
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  Oh, we're in Europe.
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  And that song, Champions of Europe.
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  You'll never sing that.
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  Come on, guys.
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  Really.
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  I mean, relegation favorites.
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  They'll never sing that.
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  That's big.
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  Bit more likely.
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  So, yeah.
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  Come on, guys.
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  It's like living.
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  Live in reality, please.
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  It's not.
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  It doesn't make you more of a fan or not of a fan.
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  If you're critical or decide.
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  I mean, you'd have to be Stevie Wonder not to be critical about what's going on at Crystal palace right now.
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  And it's okay to do that if you've spent your money, if you paid your money, you've got a right to say what you feel.
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  Right.
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  And every football's about opinions.
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  Everyone's got their own opinion.
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  I don't mind your opinion.
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  You can leave it in the comments, you can leave it on Twitter for me, leave it on Instagram or TikTok.
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  I don't mind.
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  But please don't say somebody's not a fan if they're critical of the club.
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  Right.
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  I mean, you just got to stay in realism for me.
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  I saw a comment by Rashid today, Spider Rashid, Darkout, talking about Bruno Fernandes and just cheating in general in, In.
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  In the game.
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  Yeah, it's.
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  It's awful.
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  I mean, Bruno Fernandes, the other fella, the Argentinian that plays for City.
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  I don't.
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  The fellow that plays for the man, City.
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  I.
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  I don't particularly rate Bruno Fernandez.
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  Yeah, he's a good footballer.
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  I hate the way his character.
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  Hate it on the field.
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  And really, we just got to try and stamp some of that cheating out because it's beginning.
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  It's just.
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  It's cringeworthy.
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  I hate to see it.
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  I understand why players roll over and shout and scream.
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  Otherwise they don't get it.
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  But, you know, you're really damaging the integrity of the game, I think.
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  And other.
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  And other footballers.
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  I mean, Foden's a good footballer.
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  I don't feel he did anything wrong on Saturday at all or Sunday.
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  I don't think he did anything wrong.
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  So yeah, we gotta really take a watch of that.
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  A quick note on the criticism of Parish and the board on their spending.
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  I think they, I think they recruited okay in the summer.
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  We certainly got enough in.
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  We certainly got enough to do better than we're doing.
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  The only way I would criticize him is by employing Sarge because I think sooner rather than later he's going to go.
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  But just remember, guys, that the same person you're criticizing brought in Elise as a gay.
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  Munoz Henderson, when we go on.
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  So Steve Parish has done all right by Crystal Palace.
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  He's always made the, the right decisions at the right time and I'm sure it'll make a very quick decision on Sarge very soon, particularly if we don't get a result at Leeds.
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  All right, that's going to be a interesting international break, trust me.
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  And that's it for this week.
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  Sorry, it's not too encouraging, but if you, if you look at it properly for what it is, it's not that encouraging.
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  There were glimpses, little glimpses of us playing against sits rich, but very, very few and far between.
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  Timber for me was the highlight of it.
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  People talk about Australian Arson's finishing.
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  Compared to Mateta, neither of them are particularly great.
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  So let's look forward to Leeds.
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  I, in my heart of hearts, I would love us to get us a result there.
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  I can't see it, not right now.
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  I can't see us getting anything at Leeds.
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  And yeah, look forward to the podcast next week, September 22nd with Andy Gray.
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  And please like, comment and subscribe wherever you watch or listen to these podcasts.
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  All right, thanks again for listening.
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  I do appreciate it.
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  And as always, come on, you Palace.