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Track CAUs the Galaxy's most unpredictable start trick podcast unpredictable. Indeed, some days
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we started eleven round one. That's right. It just depends. So you
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can have in the background low that works. Just do it like that.
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It's low in the background, it's kind of in the back, and we
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just keep it going for a little while and it'll just stayed out. After
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like a minute, my headphones are dying, so I can't even hear it.
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So, yeah, it's there, it's there, it's in the background.
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It's all cool. Cha three, Oh, I just saw my typo
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dan potine it's supposed to be. Yeah, Well, I mean a poutine
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is a verb. If we're gonna decide that poutine, I mean, do
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you poutine? I poutine? I don't know if you were trying to abbreviate
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Canada. That's to differentiate from American poutine, right poutine? Yeah? Or
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is it poutine in a Can? Hey? It works either way. We
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do love our can foods here in America. Know what? Um, Well,
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let the listeners decide is it is it? Is it am I saying
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that dan Can poutine? Or is it poutine from a Can? Or am
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I eating it in the can? Who knows? Am I out of a
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can? I don't know. You you get the can poutine? That's what's
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that second most American thing you can say? What eating poutine out of a
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can on the toilet, on the can or in the can, out of
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the can, from one can to another? Where did we go wrong?
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I don't know, we're just so or is the poutine about to Lombardo?
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Is Lombardo a verb? I don't know. Yeah, you're gonna get you
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know what? I need a you need a question mark? What flavors do
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you offer in your new line of can bootine? One of them should be
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a little ocho little in there, yea, yeah, yeah. Oh,
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ladies and gentlemen, it's krek Cast. Three are another week and other week's
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gone by. Oh my gosh, we had a third episode of Strange New
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World. We're talking about today. That's our main topic. And of course
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we'll go through all of your feedback or lack thereof. I don't know.
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I haven't checked the feedback for and Pootine always trek cast all the latest Pootine
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news. I should get another set of letters to go over here that says
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food cast for when I put up the letters for Trek, gast like,
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would you food cast player? Yeah, food cast is Uh did you notice
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um Ln and Kirk eating sandwiches on the street today? They did. They
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were eating sandwiches. They were eating delicious, delicious sandwiches, the sandwiches that
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will save your life. What variety of sandwich were they eating? They were
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eating a hot dog, which apparently will save everyone knows. As everyone knows,
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is a sandwich, yes, with meat from a can or a tube.
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Actually it was probably made into a can and to put into a can
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so an I'm sure, well they do. They're called a little so you
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know, it was strange is at first? Um she refused the hot dog.
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She may be the very first woman in Star Trek to refuse a hot
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dog from Captain Girk. You know, he offers that wiener and they just
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seemed to just take it. Oh she wanted it by the end. Yeah,
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yeah, we'll tell you. We'll talk about that though. Yeah.
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All right, Well, should we get to the news go for it?
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All right? So our first news story comes to us from bleedingpool dot com
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and guys, we are going to see the return of Bruce Horrack to Strange
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New Worlds aka Hammer. All right, so, um, from what we
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know, he is not playing Hammer, He's going to be playing a different
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character. But Bruce's back baby, Okay, I just thought that was kind
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of cool. So sorry. And it's a slow week as the strikes continue,
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so he is he gonna wind up being Discoveries? They're not Discovery but
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to Strange New Worlds Jeffrey Combs, where he plays every different alien character.
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He can you know what, one can hope? Yeah, one can hope
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because he's pretty good. So yeah, the reviewers head exploded after watching the
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episode. Back, Let's don't do time travel? I love that. Thanks
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all right, and so our next second news story comes to us from Variety
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and um, for those of you who are big gamers out there, there's
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a new show coming out based on among us those uh those little characters where
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you get finding the imposters. Yeah, so they're making a game or a
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show out of it. So why am I bringing this in Star Trek is
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Well, the animation studio behind this new show is the same animation studio that
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does Lower decks. Animation studio called Tip Mouse. That's literally their name.
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What is it mouse? Tip Mouse? Like, yeah, Mouse, okay,
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yeah, that's the studio. Well, these guys responsible for putting the
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tits on the Batman costume as well. That's how they got started once once
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they took over for Gotham put Tit's on goes a deep cut, wasn't it?
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Yeah? Very deep cut? So yeah, I thought that was fun.
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And then our last news story comes just from GameRant dot com. Grandpa's
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back out there, Patrick Stewart, still talking about how he wants to make
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up a card movie based off Guard season three. The only reason I bring
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this up is there's a fantastic quote that he shared that I think kind of
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sums up where we're at with this thing. He says, quote, I
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keep telling people and mentioning it, and so far there's been no eager response.
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It might well happen, and that it could be, and I think
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in a very appropriate way to say goodbye folks. Hasn't he said you'd buy
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him multiple times? Kind of? That's right. Yeah, I just love
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that he's just like, yeah, I want to do this. Nobody wants
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to do it. Yeah, no, No, nobody like Castwise wants to
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do it. Nobody wants no response period. Yeah. I caught a I
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caught a clip of Betty White roasting Bill Shatner on his comedy roast thing that
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they did years ago. Yeah, and it was absolutely hysterical. I probably
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should have linked that somewhere um for people to watch again. But it was.
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It was pretty good of the roast she did of him and Sulu at
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the same time. He was there. Oh, it was great. It
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was fantastic. Michelle Nichols was there. Um, yeah, it was pretty
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good. I'll go back and find that and post it in the group or
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something. It was. It was pretty bad. It was actually pretty bad,
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but also hilarious. So well talked about having talked about having sex with
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Shatner. It was great. It was great. Yeah, right back to
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that hot dog. Here you are, ladies and gentlemen. All right,
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well let's get to the main topic, all right. Shower Episode three was
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called Tomorrow, Tomorrow, Tomorrow. I think it's just three Tomorrows and two
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commas, is that correct something like that. You got the notes pulled up
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from wiki or do I need to pull that up. I'm bringing them up
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right now. So yes, finally good Yes. Tai twelve twenty six on
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YouTube asks did anyone play star Trek Resurgent. Yes, And I was supposed
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to put up someone's review that they typed up on Discord last week, and
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I forgot about it. So I'll make sure we do that in our feedback
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section. Well here I got that was quick. I read it quick.
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Somebody's comparing Patrick Stewart to h As long as Patrick does not try to shake
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hands of imagine it very people, he's good. Yeah, yeah, he's
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not. As long as Patrick Stewart's not leading the free world, we're good.
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Awesome. So here's the long line. Lawn travels back in time to
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the twenty first century Earth to prevent an attack which, after humanity's future and
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history, will bring her face to face with their own contentious legacy. So
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there you go. Yeah. So, I mean, like I said in
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my quick reaction, overall, I enjoyed it. I thought it was a
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decent episode. I had fun, I was smiling. There was lots of
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funny scenes, there was lots of getting to know Leon la On a little
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better, and I like, I like the whole thing. I like how
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they did the time traveling right without really being anything huge, but yet at
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the same time having huge ramifications, and it was easy and easy out kind
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of anyway, with this little button press thing she had. So there wasn't
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any crazy set up for it, like a wormhole or sling shot around the
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sun. It was just the guys from the future and in the temporal Cold
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War or whatever, screwing around again. So yeah, Lawn and Jimmy sitting
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in a tree kays as I enjoy. Yeah, well let's just Tiberius.
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Yeah, so yeah, Um, Now, I guess one nitpicky. There's
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a couple of nitpicky things. But the first nitpicky thing is the timeline,
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as in, when they have this happen as opposed to win is actually supposed
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to happen according to the already established timeline. Do we really does it really
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matter that much? Do we really care that much? I think what they're
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doing you're referring to, um, you know, con was supposed to rise
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to power in the nineteen nineties and all that, the Eugenics wars back then.
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I think what they're doing, And they hinted they hinted at this in
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Picard season two when we saw the the Project con right, you know materials,
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um, this had already happened at that point. So I think I
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think they are right there taking all the inconsistencies that have been in Star Trek
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over the years, and they're explaining a few of them away via the temporal
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Cold War, so that they can explain any of them away the via the
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temporal Cold War. There was a timeline. That's it. There's a timeline
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shift. Um. What becomes interesting then is once they do that, Once
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we've established that they do that, there, well you are unshackled, but
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from cannon. But at the same time, the idea of this is the
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prime timeline no longer exists. There is no prime timeline anymore. Okay,
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they've they've they've gone just shy of saying that strange New Worlds exists in a
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different timeline than ts Okay, all they had to do is when when that
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when the Romulan girl says, this was all supposed to happen in nineteen ninety
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two, and now it's thirty years later and I'm still here, but it's
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meant to happen, so it's still going to happen. Um. All they
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had to do was have Lan react. I don't know, is it Lan
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or Leon or la On? Yeah, that's why better. Um, all
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they had to do was have her react and and be confused about the reference
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to nineteen ninety two, and then it would be confirmed that the timeline she
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grew up in this happened in the early twenty first century, not the late
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twentieth century. But they didn't they they kind of left it. They kind
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of left it alone there. So this is this is great. I didn't
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realist when this is this is a great, tie says I guess I must
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be in the minority this week. I thought it was boring and I do
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not like Kirk casting at all. Spot comes in and said, you mean
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store brand Jim Carrey and Sam Rass music comes in. It goes lmao,
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he really does look like Jim Carrey. I can't unsee it. You know,
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he's he's thinner than he's thinner than William Shatner was. That's that's what
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it is. Well back in the day, Shatner was pretty well fit for
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that time, that that period of time in the sixties. Right, this
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guy is James T. Carry. This guy is pretty skinny. Um.
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I can honestly say that from last season his looks I never liked. But
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what he was, what he did and how he came across on screen,
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was okay, this episode you just kind of gotta hold it off on its
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own because it's not the real Kirk. It's not the real Kirk. This
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Kirk is in a different timeline. He was not even born on a planet.
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He was born in space. Um, he shouldn't have even known how
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to drive a car then, but somehow he did. Yeah, that that
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didn't make too much sense. So that's my only other nitpicky thing with you.
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Okay, so because I suffered for the people. Yeah, they did
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an interview with him. Yeah. I saw it on the Will Wheaton Show,
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which, okay, fun fact about the Will Wheaton Show. It used
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to be on Paramount Plus and then they removed Prodigy and apparently the Will Wheaton
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Show as well. Really, yeah, I was surprised by this. What
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what the hell? Man, it's your own produced thing. Why wouldn't you
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put it on Paramount Plus? Is it just on YouTube now? It's just
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on YouTube now? I don't know, man, whatever, that's really strange.
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That's really strange. It is very strange. We'll think about that for
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a second. What possible incentive would you have to not have it on your
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own streaming service and just have it on YouTube only. I have it okay,
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because then you have to pay him for the YouTube revenue, and you
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have to pay him for the the paramount, the paramount plus revenue. If
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you cut it off there, you don't have to pay him, the crew,
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the directors, all of that off that paramount revenue. You only pay
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him off the YouTube revenue. Um. I have another thought. Yeah,
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shows like that that are not scripted shows, they still have writers. Yeah,
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correct, Okay, So is it that they can't do this because of
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the writers strike, but contracts don't cover uh, streaming on strictly on websites
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like YouTube, Like, is this a workaround? It could be. We
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don't know how the contract structure, so it honestly could be either. It
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could be a combination of our theories. It just we don't know for sure.
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All we know is that is off and that's really weird that it's off
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paramount plus. Okay, So back to the Oh I'm sorry, good?
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Oh yeah, yeah, I was gonna say about what they said in the
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interview. Oh yes, go ahead. Yeah. So the way he put
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it, especially about the car and how Kirk would be able to do that,
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he said, that's just Kirk's ability, right, he figures a way
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out, and so he figured out the car. That's that's kirt it.
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He did the Kirk fu on the car, that's right. Yeah, yeah,
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sorry you did. Mention is we have yet to see him portray prime
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Kirk because everything he's been in he's been an alternate version of Kirk, which
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is true. This is a good point. Yeah, didn't he didn't he
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meet Pike? Didn't he didn't he meet Pike at the very end of the
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the last episode maybe just like on the screen real quick, Yeah, I
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think that. Well, and then she talked to him. Yeah, that's
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true. That's true. We did see him, but that wasn't like a
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big interaction. It was just yeah, right, not enough to really get
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a personality different, right. So that I mean, those are the points
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that he brought up about all that, So yeah, I can see where
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he's coming from that. So when I was talking about all the inconsistencies over
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the years that they can now explain away with the he was kirking off Christ
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Come on. So when when Laon walks onto the bridge of Not Her Enterprise,
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um and they get hailed by by Captain Spock, Um, Kirk introduces
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himself as Captain James T. Kirk of the of the United Earth Fleet Ship
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Enterprise. He doesn't say Starfleet, right, Yeah, um, United Earth
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Space Probe Agency is what Starfleet was called in the first few episodes of TS
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before they settled on the name Starfleet. Yeah. So did those first few
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episodes take place in a different timeline than the rest of the series. Can
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that be explained away now? Because of the temporal cold warn people jumping around
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and all these micro changes to the to the timeline. I mean, they
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specifically chose that name for the for the agency that is not Starfleet, so
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I mean they had to know what they were doing there. You know what
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I love about this scene right here that I noticed the first when I watched
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this the first time. Her boots Okay, her boots literally add four inches
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to her height. Yeah, because this guy who plays Kirk is that freaking
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tall. Yea, And yeah, they wanted to do that so that but
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but here, here's the thing though, because he's that tall, but look
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at them standing next to the little car. His head's barely over it.
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These two people are actually short. Yeah, so you know it's like a
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it's like a it's like an eight hour drive from from Toronto to Vermont.
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Yeah, playing chess? Yeah, how much? How much chess did this
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guy? Did that scene take? Three days? Yea, probably some some
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wardrobe changes in there, like, you know, three days, he's back
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for three days playing chess. And I got to ask, what, you
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know, what was this initial bet? What did he use for his initial
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bet to get that whole thing going? That's what I was one idea,
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I have no idea. Yeah, probably bluffed, you just bluff. I
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liked the chess scene. I thought the chess scene was fine. It was
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had some issues with it as far as I'm raising the money. But I
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mean, honestly, if you're hustling and you're and you're at a chess board
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and you really know what you're doing, um, you could bluff your way
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into a game and then be able to to win good amount of He's a
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professional and says, hey, I'm gonna bet five hundred bucks, and you
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clean the floor with him, like you can go up pretty fast. So
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yeah, but the scene before that one Vegas, right me, Yeah,
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I do plan to hustle people in Vegas. You're right. The scene right
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before that they they threw away their starfleet uniforms, which you know, you
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take your you take your insignia off. Yeah, and it's just it's just
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a funky looking shirt. So I mean, it would just it would have
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been really easy for somebody to be like, that's a nice shirt, Well
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play for it and yeah, or put put a coat over it. Just
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buy the coat. But the counter is they don't know that. To them,
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it's a uniform. They don't know that in that timeline, it would
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just look like clothes. So they're just gonna go get an outfit and blend
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in period. Yeah, I mean they're looking around. You can assess the
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situation. Yeah. Yeah, he's five eleven and she's five four. Exactly,
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they're both kind of well five eleven is not necessarily sure. Geez,
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I'm taller than he is. That's that's amazing. Well that's their listed height.
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It's like that's that is shorter than that. Yeah. Yeah, so
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I got I actually did homework today. I got some notes. Ok.
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Wow, yeah, I did my quick reaction. You did homework? I
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mean, yeah, are we don't know, I've been I've been doing that
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lately. Yeah, exactly, we've changed the Thailand. Yeah, son,
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lone is concerned with restoring the timeline and making sure things play out the way
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they're supposed to, but she has no problem given this lady a criminal record
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by setting her up for a for a shoplifting arrest in the store, by
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dropping evidence in her bag. What's that about. Yeah, I thought about
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that. Well, I mean, that's a distraction play, and that's a
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that's a I don't know, that's that's a good point. But at the
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same time, I mean, you had to do something. You're already there,
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You're already going to change something, so just by something there. Somebody
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put up in the chat that the police interr act was the most unrealistic thing
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that they've ever seen, and I have to agree. Yeah, you know,
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this guy leads he leads them on a on a high speed chase through
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the city, and he has no identification, uh, no license, the
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cars stolen, and they just let him go because some lady with a camera
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shows up, starts starts talking some smack. It is Canada. It is
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Canada. It's not that different. It is Canada. It is Canada in
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that they don't have the same civil rights that we have in the United States,
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and the burden of proof is even less to hold him. So,
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I mean, if it was truly accurate in Canada, they'd be on a
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moose. All he had to say is sorry, yeah, I'm not I'm
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not gonna say what I'm thinking, but anyway, I'm just not going to
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go there. Um. Oh, I'll say this, How would that scene
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I played out different? And if Mumbanga was driving the car anyway? Moving
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on? Oh wow, I mean you're not wrong, but would it have
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been more realistic? Anyway, Let's get to this scene right here. I
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liked this scene where they brought nut Lady in um where they go to get
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a toaster. They go to get a toaster. Yeah, I mean,
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I cannot stand her as the engineer. I'll just be in the oat.
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In the oat and in the opening of this episode we see her again where
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she's got all this stuff she's collecting, and I thought this was probably the
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best use of her character, which is her with the crazy yes voice,
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with all this shit she's stolen over the thousands of years she's been on earth,
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trying to explain it away as if someone's just going to take her word
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for it. Um. I thought it was great. I thought it was
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great about the only way you could really use her is to make her look
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crazy because she is. Uh, And then when they go back in time
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or they tried to hear and they go to her store or whatever the hell
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she is, she still got the same tags on these things. Yeah,
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so it's horrible. But yet she knows nothing about engineering yet, which I
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don't know how to make an engineering Yeah, exactly. I thought that was
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just hysterical. I was like, oh, this is perfect, Like,
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these are the only two ways you could ever use this character. Now they're
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done, you don't need her for the rest of the season. So they've
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created like a temporal causality loop. Lan tries to find her because she's an
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engineer. Speaking with Lan is what inspires her to become an engineer, which
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causes Lan to seek her out when she needs an engineer. Yeah, so
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it's a closed circle yep. Yeah, and being an alien, I guess
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it doesn't really matter as far as how that affects the timeline, but it's
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still one of the things. And Sam brings up another gray point, which
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we haven't discussed yet so far this season, but it's something that is just
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totally off. Everybody's quarters are freaking huge. Yeah, what does the deal
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with that? Like, honestly, they've they've missed the boat. This is
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the one thing that I've liked on Discovery, Like one of the very few
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things I liked on Discovery. We had to have burn him with Tilly,
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Right, they had shared in corners. There was a little room and their
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bunks were like five feet apart, right, um, lower decks where we
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get to see them, you know, literally in the hallway on a wall
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where their beds are, right, I mean that's way into the future as
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well. So I don't understand. We saw that with Lura, she was
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in a cot, you know, on the side of a wall. That's
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true, we did so, I guess now, like on his head of
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security, right, So because she's a senior officer, right, get a
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full room. So that's a senior officers quarter and a pike's room is freaking
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gigantic. Yeah yeah, but I mean that's still a lot. Yeah,
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you know, Spox is pretty good size. It all has to do with
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your your rank, to your rank and your position on the ship. I'd
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imagine, you know, Data had his quarters, but he also had his
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own lab m Yeah, you know, Picard has his quarters, but he
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also has his ready room. Yeah, but I mean they'd ever made mention
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of it. But I'm sure, I'm sure the first officer, I'm sure
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Riker had an office somewhere on the ship. Either that or he's got a
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smaller version of Picard's desk in the corner. He had ten Ford exactly.
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It ted forward. But I mean his uh data's room was tiny. H
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it was a hole in the wall. Well, seven and nine had the
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had the borg out cove. She'd astrometrics. Yeah who three yea, yeah,
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she had quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah, I still think it's
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oversized in my opinion. Oh it is, but yeah, so you know,
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yeah, you know, I like to nitpick um and and the great
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thing about nitpicking is when they get stuff right, it feels good. You
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know. The whole thing with the with the tridium um. You know,
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Tridium is used to make night sights on on firearms. I have I have
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firearms with with tridium night sights on them, and I have some of them
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that the Knight sites don't work anymore because they're fifteen years old and the half
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life is twelve years, so they fade over time. So when they started
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talking about that, I'm like, oh, they got the they got the
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science, right, that's cool. This guy exactly exactly can you pootinet?
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Oh? Boy? Just checking things off my list? Tridium check. Uh
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so yeah, while we're nitpicking, I'll go right back into another one.
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So they have um DNA hand scanning devices in the twenty first century. I
28:07
don't know about you, guys. I live in the twenty first century and
28:11
I've never had an interaction with a hand DNA scanning device to get into a
28:17
building. But that's just me biometrics. You put your hand on there,
28:22
sure not. Doesn't mean doesn't check your DNA. That checks, Yeah,
28:27
that checks your your your fingerprints and the measurements. Even if you use a
28:32
full hand, it's measuring. It's checking the measurements of your hand. Yeah,
28:34
and combination with your with your fingerprints, DNA DNA goes to a lab
28:41
in the twenty first century. Yeah, that's a good point, fair point.
28:47
Yeah, I know, I know um LN left a gun in CON's
28:59
bedroom. Yeah yeah, yeah. A little bit of an issue with that,
29:06
A little bit of an issue. It is an issue. I think
29:08
it was a I think it was an editing issue. I don't think it
29:12
was part of the story. I think I agree with you, Um,
29:19
because if she left it there, it absolutely would have polluted the timeline in
29:25
some way, and then uh, agent Smith wouldn't have been waiting for her
29:30
in her quarter saying good job, you did a great job. Thanks,
29:33
Can we have our time tri quarterback or whatever it is, So that I
29:37
was a little disappointed with somebody dropped the ball there, Yep. I wouldn't
29:45
like maybe somebody brought it up on set and the director or producers were just
29:51
like, a nobody's gonna think about it, forget it. Yeah, But
29:53
then they were like, but those guys, the three guys, the one
29:56
in the van is gonna right, yep, yep, who's gonna know,
30:00
they're gonna know, who's gonna who's ever gonna know? They're gonna know.
30:04
Nobody's gonna know. Nobody's Yeah, that's oversight, kind of like a Starbucks
30:14
coffee cup left on a counterwall filming. Yeah, movie, Yeah, that
30:17
stuff happens. Apparently, So that device she was using, apparently UM had
30:23
the same UM interface as that we we've seen it in UM Voyager. Yeah,
30:32
the start the time ship was it relativity? Was that the name of
30:34
the ship. So good on them for consistency. That was that was kind
30:41
of cool, um because we've had no time agencies. Yeah. Yeah,
30:49
So Sam answered a good question, he says, so that he brings up
30:52
a good point. Are the are we meant to believe that everyone entering that
30:56
area or descendants of Con? Even though he's a kid. At that point,
31:02
I don't know, like why would the biomet why would the DNA biometrics
31:07
be for the Augments? Yeah, I don't know. To me, it
31:14
seemed like they were being held there, so I thought exactly exactly, Yeah,
31:19
I mean they were being genetically manipulated, created and held there. They
31:23
wouldn't have the keys to get in and out. It's not like they were
31:27
the one. Now, if that was Con in his thirties and that was
31:30
his base of operations, this would make more sense. But it's not.
31:34
It's uh whatever the guy's name, Ricardo Montebon at ten years old. Maybe
31:41
it's the Nunians things who were doing all of this research and they're using their
31:49
own material to do it. So it's not for the Augments to get in
31:57
or out. It's for them. Still an issue because now their prodigy that
32:02
they've created could use it to get in and out. Yeah, I don't
32:08
know, so it's a little Yeah, that's a little bit of a there
32:10
should have been a different way for them to get in. Well, I
32:14
mean, if this device can read someone's DNA just by their hand scan,
32:21
perhaps it can also tell the difference between naturally occurring DNA and altered DNA.
32:27
And since law On is three generations removed, her DNA is doesn't appear altered
32:36
anymore. I don't know. Yeah, I'm just spitballing. These are just
32:40
little This is what's kind of good about this episode is these are little nitpicky
32:44
things are pulling apart. But at the end it's still a great episode and
32:45
it's still a fun episode. So um so overall, I mean, yeah,
32:50
they're gonna miss things, even in the best episodes. They're stuff missed.
32:52
So or scree so time travel and into it. We see this guy,
33:00
this temporal agent at the beginning, and he got shot and we don't
33:06
know what happened. We don't know how he got shot, but he obviously
33:12
failed in his mission, and I'm wondering, I'm wondering, did he go
33:21
on the same mission that she did basically go through many of the same steps
33:27
that she did. But when she when he got to when he got to
33:35
Khan, he couldn't he couldn't bring himself to protect the kid because it's the
33:40
old If you could go back in time, would you kill Hitler then?
33:45
And he hesitated and that's how he got That's how he got shot. So
33:52
when he goes to the future and gets lns who would be able to complete
33:55
this mission, someone who has to complete this mission and protect Khan because if
34:00
they don't, they will never exist. Get that guy get shot with the
34:04
gun that was left in concerts exactly exactly the gun they left in the room.
34:08
He gets shot icon That's exactly exactly what I was. All right,
34:14
Yea, then maybe we will. That goes to another thing that I brought
34:16
up. Are we going to revisit the temporal Cold War storyline in Strange New
34:22
Worlds? Hope not. I hope we do, because this would be the
34:27
perfect way to bring Scott Bacula in as a as an older as an older
34:34
um Jonathan Archer and have it actually makes sense and have it actually count for
34:39
something, not just be a you know, a cameo appearance. If they
34:45
did that as in like a one off episode to bring him back and for
34:50
whatever and tie things up. As far as that goes with the temporal Cold
34:52
War, I'd be okay with it. But boy, if they if they
34:55
weave in the temporal Cold War stuff into the whole season, that's a man.
35:04
They already if they bring back Porthos as well, but I want Porthos
35:12
like this. A dude dressed like a dog's standing there with Archer. Yeah,
35:19
yeah, just talking to him. Everybody sees him as a dog,
35:22
but he sees him as as a man. Yeah. And it's the guy
35:28
who plays Himmer. That's how it was very good. Great, hey,
35:30
full circle, We're good. I have to ask when when they blow by
35:34
the cops, uh in the car and the cops spills his coffee and that
35:37
causes him to chase him. Is it tim Morton's coffee? It probably it's
35:44
because if it's Timmy's, you know, yeah, you cause him to spill
35:49
as Timmy's and he's just gonna let you go. No, I don't think
35:52
so, I'm call him bullshit? Or is don't it drop on the floor?
35:53
I mean, come on yet to try Himportons? It's uh it's good
36:00
stuff. Yeah, it's good stuff. You can get on Amazon. You
36:02
can get Tim Horton's cake cups, Okay, and they're really good. We
36:07
kind of we switched over. That's kind of our our brand now. And
36:10
if you're in a denobulin prison, you can make it in the toilet.
36:13
So I'm sorry I laughed. I laughed out loud. I know it was
36:22
pretty good. Yeah, that was pretty good. Yep. So the thing
36:28
about the getting the posh, swinky hotel with the view that they got without
36:31
having IDs, it's pretty easy, Pavel. It's called cash. Yeah,
36:37
yep, it's called cash. Yep. In fact, any hotel they can't
36:43
deny you lodging because you don't have a credit card. They can require you
36:49
to leave a five hundred dollar cash deposit or a thousand dollars cash deposit,
36:53
but they can't deny you lodging. So the moral of the story is he
36:59
played a lot of chess. They were there for four days playing chess.
37:04
So Sam brings up a good point. He says, I approve of the
37:06
car choice. Seeing Kirk drive a Hellcat charger was kind of badass, But
37:10
they missed the most important thing about that scene. When he gets into it
37:15
and starts the cars. Yeah, sabotage should have come on the minute he
37:20
turned that car on. Yeah, should have looked over at lay On and
37:22
said, ooh, that probably would double the cost of the episode probably.
37:28
You know what, there's a lot of things like that. There's a lot
37:30
of missed opportunities. When he says he was born in space on the USS
37:34
Iowa, I get what they were trying to do, say, you know
37:37
he was you know, he wasn't born in Iowa. He was born on
37:40
Iowa. I get that right, But but you know, how great would
37:46
it have been if he said, my father was stationed on the USS Kelvin
37:52
he was the helmsman when I was born, So I was I was actually
37:55
born on the ship. Yes, we know what's Yeah, I know it's
38:00
an alternate timeline. So it's not like they're saying this is the Kelvin timeline.
38:06
But the whole episode is about how certain things are destined to happen,
38:10
and time kind of pushes back and makes things happen a certain way. I'm
38:15
sure there's several degrees of that. You know, he's supposed to be born
38:20
on Iowa, in Iowa, but you know, if he's if he's not
38:23
born in Iowa, he's born on the Kelvin. That's the next best thing.
38:28
I don't know, I just I thought it was a missed opportunity.
38:30
Yeah, I agree. I like that idea. I like that idea a
38:32
lot, especially since you know, they're really doing a lot of um callbacks
38:38
like that, like when he mispronounces her name and says sung instead of sing,
38:44
which is what everyone has been thinking for you know, thirty years.
38:47
At this point, Doctor Nunion sung con Union sing. They just sound they're
38:53
so close, they're so close. And the and the out of universe explanation
38:58
is that Gene Ron Ray just really liked the name used it twice. I
39:00
remember reading that somewhere. And it wasn't until you know, the mid two
39:06
thousands that they tied these two corners of Star Trek together by you know,
39:10
tying Doctor Song to the augments and all of that. But just a missed
39:16
opportunity, all right. I did see a preview for next week on the
39:23
two show yep Um. It wasn't much of a clip. It was just
39:28
Pike is there and there that'll be nice. Yeah, they're trying to get
39:35
a hold of some looks like aliens, I guess in big furry suits that
39:38
they've seen before maybe know that they have. These are these are the um
39:46
no, these are the guys that from the way back when in the Menagerie
39:52
right before they talk about it where they had to go and fight these barbarians
39:55
right before and for that episode, right, And that's what these that's what
39:59
these guys are. Okay, So so I thought of another missed opportunity that
40:09
they had. At the end of the episode, when she facetimes with Lieutenant
40:15
Kirk. You know, she's obviously happy that he's alive, but at the
40:23
same time devastated because she loves him at that point. Yeah, but the
40:31
man that she loves doesn't exist. That's not him. It looks just like
40:36
him, but it's but it's not him. And that's why when she gets
40:38
off the phone, she's she's bawling. Um she's mourning the loss of someone
40:45
who's still alive, which is, you know, kind of interesting. It's
40:52
more like a breakup. You know, I still love him, he's right
40:54
there, but I can't be with him because he doesn't want to be with
40:58
me anymore. And I and you know, we all liked the kiss that
41:02
they had, and a lot of people were, you know, pleased that
41:09
it didn't go further in usual Jim Kirk fashion, But what if it had?
41:19
And we revisit this storyline next season when she realizes that she's pregnant with
41:29
the child of James T. Kirk, but not this James T. Kirk,
41:36
So he has no responsibility to raise this child or even know about it.
41:43
But like she keeps it to herself. She's the only one that knows
41:45
this is Jim Kirk's kid, but she won't tell anybody. Be a great,
41:50
great way to bring in the song I just took a DNA tist some
42:01
music episode. Yeah, I'm a hundred a bad bitch. You never heard
42:06
that song? You never heard that I'm sorry heavy Lizzo. Yeah, yeah,
42:13
those things that so so, I don't know if they would do that
42:22
from the standpoint of you pretty much have to write her character off some well
42:25
maybe they maybe they do. Maybe they want to write her character off,
42:28
maybe they wanted to, you know, maybe maybe she'll move on at some
42:30
point. Well, I mean she's not in the original series, so she
42:34
at some point she moves on from this ship, and she's there when when
42:37
he's the captain, and and and that would be perfect. The end of
42:45
the series is that Kirk takes command of the Enterprise and she can't be there.
42:53
She requests a transfer and no one knows why. Yeah, and it's
42:59
because her son, who you know, was living with Grandma on Earth or
43:04
whatever. I don't know, is the son James Song is the son of
43:12
Jim C. Kirk. Tiberia Tiberius Song. Yeah, they had the cold,
43:22
but they had the whole conversation about the name, and it's ridiculous and
43:25
blah blahlah blah. Well it was my grandfather's name. And she names him
43:30
after his father's Yeah, she names him Tiberius after her father, his father's
43:35
grandfather. Yeah, God, I should write for this show. You should,
43:39
all three of us really should. Yeah, I know, we call.
43:44
We're so much cheaper, we'll just cross the picket line. Yet.
43:52
Oh no, they'll still pay us. I'm just working from home. It
43:53
screed. They don't have to pay me very much to give me to do
43:55
it. It'd be great on my talents, cost a lot. If we're
44:01
gall on loan from God with one hand tied behind your backs, billion dollars
44:07
franchise. They can't come and cheat. Yeah, well they can start us
44:12
out. They can start us out that way, and then we can negotiate
44:14
it from more because they won't be able to get it. Nah, they
44:16
will keep Yeah, people would love it so much. They wouldn't they wouldn't
44:22
be able to It doesn't matter. I've seen how they work now, I
44:24
know. Yeah. No, Um, it's weird to me. We have
44:30
not seen any progression yet on Sybok they teased him. It's weird. We've
44:37
had a lot of things going on, and I mean really, if you
44:40
look at it from the from the their time perspective, Um, it hasn't
44:44
been very long, like a week. It could have been a line,
44:46
It could have been just to cut away seeing something. Yeah, I don't
44:52
know. I don't put that up. I don't know if we're gonna I
44:55
don't know if we're gonna get that. Um. You know the other thing,
45:00
these these are not nineteen ninety two seasons. Yeah, no, no,
45:05
no, what do we get eight or ten episodes? Ten episodes?
45:08
You know they used to get twenty six episodes. Yeah, they You know
45:12
Louisana would show up three times in a season. You know, Well,
45:19
Thank god, we don't have that problem this season. Uh, some of
45:22
those episodes with her were a bit we're not my favorites. No, yeah,
45:29
no, well, um, should we get the listener feedback? Sure?
45:34
Why not? Sure? Yeah? Hey, that's still my favorite part
45:44
at the end. Hey, all right, well we got Chad's biz on
45:50
the line, so let me bring him in there. He is glasses this
45:55
time. Oh yeah, well I've been playing Diablo, so okay, let
46:00
to see what's so what's up? Man? Would you think of the episode?
46:07
Well? I kind of want to try poutine. I've never tried poutine
46:09
before, so you'll plug your arteries. It's a good baby and cheese and
46:15
French fries. Yeah, it sounds unhealthy, exactly, sounds delicious. But
46:23
yeah, sure I'll gain like ten pounds if I look at it. Yeah,
46:32
but uh, I want to know how you play chess and get that
46:37
swunky hotel that that just kind of threw me off, because don't you have
46:42
to have an ID for a hotel too? No, you need a five
46:46
hundred deposit. I'm gonna ask my wife next. I'm good of one of
46:51
these big swunky hotels. You know, it's do we have to have an
46:54
id so, but it's I don't know the episode was. I liked it,
47:04
but I didn't like it like some parts and words their strange new worlds.
47:08
Is it better than the last two or or worse or uh? Well,
47:13
I liked it better than the last one. The pacing was quicker because
47:16
last week's episode, well was it. Last week's episode was fifty three minutes
47:22
or something like that, and it seemed to drag and they kind of tighten
47:27
it up a little bit to make the flow the pacing go faster. Uh
47:31
this week, I liked the pacing. I thought it was pretty quick.
47:36
I didn't care for the montages. You know. The music was all right.
47:38
I kind of wish I had different music for those parts. Um,
47:45
I want a hot dog now, so may fourth your line. A couple
47:50
of days I got the family. It must have been It must have been
47:57
nice. Uh. It must have been nice for the crew shooting in Canada
48:01
and not having to pretend that it's not Canada. So many you know,
48:07
so many productions they shoot in Canada. They shoot Canada for the United States.
48:10
And I think they poked fun at that too. When Kirk Kirk was
48:15
like, I think we're in New York and she's like, no, we're
48:16
in Yeah. That was my one note I put on my phone a pit
48:23
Blaine, Canada. So, and has their budget been cut this season or
48:30
what it was like? It seems like Paramounts having maybe you know, I
48:35
know they're having financial problems at Paramount. So no, we haven't had any
48:39
reports that their budgets been cut. My thought is a couple of things on
48:44
that end, because I thought I have a thought on this also. Yeah,
48:47
One, it's not really cheaper to shoot the way they've been shooting,
48:53
like on location is actually fairly expensive, um because typically they shoot inside their
48:59
their studio where everything's controlled, so that makes it cheaper and faster. So
49:04
that also cuts down and costs being not in location like this that that's expensive.
49:08
Um. But they very clearly have been saving money on high end special
49:14
effects. So I'm thinking the back end, we're going to be seeing a
49:16
lot they have tecorn ship, so I think that's where the money is going
49:21
to end up towards the end of the season. Yeah, So it's budget
49:23
shifting. It's not a budget exactly, they're shifting it from these episodes to
49:28
these episodes, which is common they I mean, Boiler's hair is going to
49:30
cost a lot in that episode. So, oh yeah, man, have
49:32
you bought have you bought diet cvs? It's expensive? No, it's not.
49:37
Just go to do it in San Francisco. It's free. Just walk
49:39
into up and walk out. I mean it's pretty it's pretty easy in California
49:45
apparently. So do you guys think Pearl Caine's gonna die this season? I
49:51
hope? So who the engineer? Uh? You know, I gave a
49:58
little thought and I decided I don't care. I don't, I don't.
50:02
I didn't give it any thought at all. It was just an instant.
50:05
Yes, well, I just didn't think in this world, she's gotta have
50:08
her hands up doing something like this, claiming she sees a troll. I
50:13
don't know. Then you know something weird wacky, which by exactly, um
50:20
have we brought this up before? Maybe we have, But Chaz, why
50:23
do you have the rom the the Farranghi ball used to control Captain Picard hanging
50:32
from your ceiling. It's fine, kitchen, Okay, I know that,
50:44
it's really it's just really concerning. Any moment, I'm thinking you're gonna start
50:46
talking about UMAs and the ball's gonna glow and then gonna lose his mind.
50:52
My thing for forced perspective. I didn't realize how small it was. I
50:55
thought I thought it was twenty feet high. I thought there was a guy
50:59
inside it with a motorcycle, well, like on a motorcycle, like in
51:06
the Looking about the circus. Yeah, yeah, all right, I'd watch
51:14
that. Cha chasms. They make fun of my studio too. It's okay,
51:19
buddy, at least anything else you want to bring up chasmsiness. I
51:24
don't know what are you guys looking forward to for this season, Like,
51:30
I would like to see some star trek straight in the world exploring in the
51:37
Exploring Show. I would like to see new aliens, a different alien something,
51:40
yeah, other than yeah or Romulan Karen with that airs. So hey.
51:49
They did try to warn us. They did say a lot of big
51:51
swings this season. Yeah, well that was a swing that the cops scene
51:55
was the swing on the miss for me. I just all my eyes.
52:00
I was like, yeah, not out of here, and very easy ways
52:05
to have gotten around that. Other than that scene. Yeah, that was
52:09
like a political statement that they wanted to stop right in the middle of the
52:12
show to make it. Yeah, and that seems just kind of like and
52:16
I see a lot of comments that ruined it for him. Yeah, yeah,
52:20
yeah, it's just like no, Bronson brings up a great point as
52:24
far as what we want for the rest of the season more Pike. Yes,
52:29
yes, I guess that baby's kind of got him because what he had
52:34
the baby at the beginning of the season. Ye. Yeah. I read
52:39
an interview with one of the producers and they were talking about that and how
52:44
they purposely had to plan these episodes without him because they knew he was gonna
52:49
be gone for paternity to leave. But like if you knew that months ahead
52:53
of time, you could have like written things were like you could still will
53:00
have him in the episodes, but like shoot that stuff later because they shoot
53:02
everything out of order, like yeah everything, so yeah, yeah, Or
53:08
you could have done like maybe your your first episode is maybe from UNA's perspective
53:14
and her being in jail and something she has to deal with, you know,
53:17
so we get that side of it. So maybe that's one week where
53:21
he's off and you can deal with that, like you could have done other
53:24
things. I don't know, Or he could have just had the first three
53:28
episodes where he's barely in him at all period, and then just because they
53:30
would have done that anyway and then moved on from there. That's what I
53:34
meant, Just like what three weeks? Well, maybe they did the scenes
53:37
we see him in and some of these episodes probably it could have happened well
53:40
after the fact, and that was all they had time for because each episode's
53:44
what a week worth of time? Yeah? Right, I mean there's there's
53:47
three weeks. So we get to the fourth episode here, we should see
53:51
a little bit more of them, I would think, right, you think,
53:54
because yeah, because that Lawyer episode, it's not like he had to
53:57
do a lot of like memorizing a fight scene or anything like. It's just
54:00
no, no, I mean, yeah, you could have done that,
54:01
and you could have done that in a few hours. Right. Do you
54:05
think this universe has now changed, like with the temporal time all that crap?
54:10
Do you think? I don't. Maybe it's like the spaghetti and uh,
54:16
like you think we branched off and now we're changing things around. I
54:22
cannot wait for Don Cheetle to play Pike. I mean I say, I
54:31
say no, but they could change that at any given time. I mean,
54:35
it's just track, right, so you can you can do anything from
54:37
one episode to the next and not even pay homage to what you just did
54:40
in the last episode. So who knows. Yeah, well, hey we
54:44
got we got a lot of people, so we should probably move guys.
54:46
I think, thanks Jazz, appreciate it all right. We also got hipster
54:50
spot waiting. Oh, here we go hipster spot. Oh nope, that's
54:54
Sam. Never go hipster hipster spot first. There he is, Hi,
55:00
hear me, we can hear you find great. So I think this Carocane
55:07
thing, it's gonna be a Pulaski situation where she's gonna be like in and
55:12
out. I hope she's gonna get Polaski. People will love her and some
55:17
people will hate her, and she'll be very divisive that way. No,
55:22
she's just gonna be here for one season and she'll she'll be gone next She'll
55:28
never be spoken of again. There you go, Yeah, exactly like like
55:30
Pulaski. M hm yeah. And I tell you, like, you could
55:38
show me Lan in yoga pants anytime of the week. Okay, she looks
55:49
stunning in that, so I mean, bring it on. Yeah, okay,
55:54
she looks like um one of the character one of the main characters Comin
55:59
a Drummer from the expanse Um. They look a lot alike. I always
56:01
I always think of Comina Drummer's kind of yeah, that's true. Both are
56:06
very very pretty speaking val like if you saw au yeah that the bout er
56:13
lady, right yeah, yeah. Um. So if you saw a stranger
56:17
in your room, when don't you like pull out your um phaser and and
56:22
aim it at her Rather than being so calm, I think she was physically,
56:29
mentally and emotionally exhausted at that point. That's how I kind of explained.
56:37
That's how I explained that away. I thought of that too. If
56:38
I walk into my house and somebody's behind me and they're like hello, you
56:43
know, there would be some there'd be some kung fu going on, probably
56:46
probably right away. I jumped straight to the kung fu and I just looked
56:52
up Comina Drummer and and yeah, I see the I see the resemblance very
56:57
much, very much. Look a lot alike. Yeah, Okay. And
57:01
another thing, like you said that cash is enough to get you a big
57:06
hotel room without um getting an ID, But how the hell do you get
57:10
in and out of the US UM without that. They said they bribe people.
57:16
Yeah, bribe people, bribing them. That's a given the current situation.
57:29
I don't know that that will fly, even in the northern border.
57:34
No, it doesn't, it doesn't fly. It doesn't. You know what
57:37
they should have just they should have just had um, They should have just
57:39
had her have her library store whatever it was, you know, twenty minutes
57:44
outside of Ontario in Canada, and it would have made more sense. Or
57:49
hell, there's a huge uh you know, there's a huge land border between
57:54
the United States and Canada, and to think that the whole thing is manned
58:00
is not realistic. They need they needed a scene of them creeping through the
58:05
woods at night, and it would have been fine because I mean, I've
58:08
crossed hilarious too. I've crossed in and out of Canada, you know,
58:14
several times, always at a border crossing. But they're also they're not all
58:17
created equal, right, you know, where the interstate meets meets the international
58:23
line. There's a huge border crossing where there's just a two way road you
58:30
know that meets the border crossing. It's two guys in a shock, that's
58:35
it. Or when it's on the water and you just take a boat across
58:38
one from one house to another. If they were creeping through the woods,
58:45
it would have been great if they ran into big Foot, and then they
58:47
could have been like, is that an alien species? I don't know,
58:52
I don't remember from the south, I don't remember where it actually it is,
58:57
um but you know there are places on the border where the border runs
59:01
right through the middle of town. Yeah, so like the McDonald's is in
59:06
Canada and the Taco bell is in the United States, and they're on opposite
59:10
sides of the street. Yeah, and I remember, I don't know what
59:14
town it is, but there's a town where the library, uh, the
59:19
front door is in the US and the back door, so you know,
59:25
yeah, theoretically you could go and you know, and and the rule is
59:30
you're supposed to exit through whatever door you came in. But the idea that
59:34
there are people who who come in the library, go up to the third
59:37
floor, find a book, come downstairs, and go out the back door
59:40
into you know, Canada. You know that shit happens all the time.
59:45
So I mean, they could have made this, They could have made this
59:46
happen without the throwaway line about bribing a border guard. I think it would
59:51
have been more realistic. But yeah, yeah, last last thing like okay
59:57
wearing like uh episode three, right, so that's two out of the three
1:00:02
episodes without any strange new world and so ye old world. Yeah, we've
1:00:09
been seeing some strange new world very quickly, you aren't they they're gonna have
1:00:15
to rebrand. Yeah, that's that's what I keep saying. Hipster Spock is
1:00:21
gonna be mad next week because they're gonna go to a new world. But
1:00:23
it's gonna be very ordinary. It's gonna be like that wasn't strange at all.
1:00:31
Right on, all right, guys, thanks a loot for having me
1:00:36
on, and keep up the good word. Hopefully next week it's gonna be
1:00:38
good, all right, all right, And now we have Sam who's been
1:00:45
waiting patiently for so long. Sam Kirk, Sam Kirk, you can hear
1:00:55
me, guys. Yeah yeah, Hey. First of all, I just
1:01:00
want to say a long time listener, first time caller. Yeah. So
1:01:04
I got that out of the way, and awesomely my favorite podcast I listened
1:01:08
to you guys, So thanks for doing it. Oh, thanks, thank
1:01:12
you. I don't know what's wrong with you. What do you mean?
1:01:15
I mean, this is the only place I get my news. I didn't
1:01:17
even know about the summer until Daniel Mansion did. That's right. We don't
1:01:22
have enough time to go into what's wrong with me though, the guest.
1:01:29
As far as this episode, um, I surprisingly liked it a lot more
1:01:32
than I was expecting to. Yeah. I kind of felt, oh,
1:01:37
I get it, they're kind of going down this road of it feels like
1:01:39
kind of a knockoff of the City on the Edge of Forever a little bit.
1:01:45
But h But at the same time, I thought they did a pretty
1:01:47
good job and it landed pretty well. Um and uh. I really thought
1:01:54
the best performance though, was Christina a Tong. I thought she did a
1:01:58
great job as well. Yeah yeah, yeah, but also, um the
1:02:06
chief Engineer. About her you always think of whenever I see her on screen,
1:02:10
is you know, her running out of the back room and the princess
1:02:13
bride yelling yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not a witch your wife.
1:02:23
Yeah, she's just not. The chocolate coating makes it go down easier.
1:02:30
She doesn't. She doesn't fit in the universe. That's what I keep saying.
1:02:34
She's a Tim Burton character. But I think that's okay. I think
1:02:37
it's okay to have a Whackadoodle character somewhere. I just hope that she's not
1:02:43
in very much stuff and she's gone, yeah, yeah, that'd be nice.
1:02:46
I kind of want them to have an alien race called the Whackadoodle hilarious,
1:02:52
and they're from They're from Whackadoodle Prime. Yeah, exactly where the no,
1:02:58
no, no, who is the guy who used who called Gene Roddenberry
1:03:01
whackadoodle in the in the in the biography thing that we the documentary you watched.
1:03:07
That's where I get that whackadoodle from. There was a documentary you watched
1:03:09
and we reviewed on this on this on the show, and he called Gene
1:03:14
Roddenberry's ideas whackadoodle? Um who was Remember, I'm gonna have to go back
1:03:20
and watch that documentary listen to our episode anyway, that's probably better. But
1:03:24
um yeah, there was. That's where I get that that from. Anyway.
1:03:30
No, just uh another thought here, Um, so I thought them
1:03:37
meeting up with the well, first of all, she's just some photographer,
1:03:39
right, the like a fake Romulin woman and yeah, just standing there.
1:03:43
They met her by happenstance, you know, and they want to see,
1:03:46
you know, the photo. She goes doesn't get bigger. She's like,
1:03:49
oh you mean zoom, So we're getting some sort of you know, difference
1:03:52
in you know, uh linguistics between eras. But then somehow she magically keeps
1:03:59
up with them in the car chase. How did that work out? Like,
1:04:02
they drive a pretty far distance and she just ends up and in the
1:04:05
right place at the right time. So now as you can teleport, okay,
1:04:09
okay, yeah, I see that. All right, she probably has
1:04:12
a try quarter. She knows, you know, she's tracking them, she
1:04:15
knows where they are, she knows exactly the best route to take to get
1:04:17
to them. Oh yeah, yeah, point, yeah, that makes a
1:04:21
lot more sense now, yeah. But yeah, all in all, I
1:04:26
thought it was good. It was a hit me in the fields at the
1:04:29
end. I was surprised. Yeah yeah, yeah, new track episodes that
1:04:31
really kneeled me in the fields. So yep. And then she's a great
1:04:36
character. This is this brings up the point I made him my quick reaction
1:04:41
that, um, do we know the bridge crew, We know a lot
1:04:45
about them. Um, then you know there's attachment there with these characters.
1:04:50
These are great characters that they've created on the bridge with with bike. Um,
1:04:56
not just all this stuff in the Shenanigans with Spock and Nurse Chapel,
1:05:00
but Mambanga um obviously, damn it, oh Ortega. That's what I'm trying
1:05:06
to think of, Not Chapel, but Ortega and the stuff with her um,
1:05:11
which we're gonna see a little bit of her piloting skills, I guess
1:05:13
in the next episode. Yeah, I want to see more of her.
1:05:15
I'd like, yeah, how do you like her? And of course more
1:05:18
of a hurrah um because I love how much much I really know um so,
1:05:26
but I'm sure we'll see more of them. Yeah, I'm sure,
1:05:31
all right, all right, well really yeah, thanks for being on man,
1:05:35
Thanks, I appreciate it. And Tie Tie in the comment says,
1:05:39
the more this episode has talked about, the less I like it, and
1:05:42
I don't like it very much to begin with. Yikes, just sometimes we
1:05:46
gotta have you come on, come on the air with us and give us
1:05:49
your feedback on things. Have some pootsine, have some Footsine, you'll appreciate
1:05:54
it. We did have a little bit of from the coffee account. By
1:05:59
the way, Kay and Andy bought us a coffee three days ago. Thank
1:06:02
you, intent and then Eric Woods, thank you for that as well,
1:06:05
So thank you guys. You do have account still those h donations over to
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the coffee account do there's sixty seven supporters over there in total who who have
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given us a coffee essentially through that account. If we have the link that's
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up on these that when they get this gets posted or not, but we
1:06:21
should post that because all those all that revenue goes towards you know, give
1:06:25
backs to you at conventions and whatever else we come up. Thanks for the
1:06:30
show and the website in the whole nine yards, so thank you, yep,
1:06:33
we appreciate it. Do we have any voicemail? Um, I've got
1:06:38
a question from tim oh okay and he sent a Yeah, he sent an
1:06:43
email but forgot to attach his his thing to it again he got it,
1:06:46
He got it, okay. Email emailed them back and said you forgot the
1:06:49
attachment, so we'll have that go ahead and go ahead Daniel okay, He
1:06:54
says, uh, how did la lawn suspect Celia was supposed to be a
1:06:59
Romulan when nobody knows what a Romulan looks like yet until Kirk and Friends in
1:07:02
Balance of Terror? So I guess he loves that photographer yeah, yeah,
1:07:14
Well Kirk would have known because their war worth the Romulans. And that's how
1:07:17
I could identify the ship as well from his timeline, right, and they
1:07:21
did mention the Romulans ship so m and in his timeline they'd been fighting the
1:07:27
Romulans for a while, yeah, and been losing same things. Because that
1:07:32
was, as Spock said, that was the last ship, right and because
1:07:39
because of the temporal Cold War, you can disregard whatever you want to about
1:07:42
exactly pretty much pretty much. That explains a lot. Yeah, timelines explains
1:07:47
all that. Yep, it does. It does. We fixed everything by
1:07:51
breaking it all timey wymy spaghetti, yep, all right, let's play the
1:07:58
audio, all right, Yeah, let's play this from Tim. Let me
1:08:00
get my how do you pulled up here? Hello? Boys, it's Tim
1:08:05
here in the sunny shoreham by scene. Um, before a start, I
1:08:12
just wanted to say, Dan, I wasn't really driving with my knees and
1:08:16
you know, it was just a joke to say that. Very piercy sort
1:08:21
of reclined in the chair, arm out of the window, smoking a doobie
1:08:26
one hand and driving and I wasn't really Sunday anyway. Um, it's been
1:08:34
a while since I did a recording for a current show. Look, so
1:08:42
far, I think this season has been awful and the latest episode was I
1:08:48
thought terrible, almost unwatchable. I made a few couple of notes, but
1:08:53
I'll keep it as brief as I can. All Right, Episode one was
1:08:56
shit, all right. Episode two was a little bit better, terrible because
1:09:00
Anson Mountain was in it. And episode three was shockingly bad as well because
1:09:05
Anson mount wasn't in it. There's a connection here anyway. Look, I
1:09:11
don't like the new engineer, the one who was in that Christmas movie Scrooge.
1:09:17
Don't like her. She's just two on the nose, you know.
1:09:21
I don't like Kirk. Kirk has zero charisma and he can't act. I
1:09:29
don't think the acting is great, and the script between him and Lalan and
1:09:33
there's no chemistry. He was awful. Although I will say that I did
1:09:39
enjoy about the episode, which is quite touching. Was the very final part
1:09:43
when she when Kirk sort of sends her that note, that message, she
1:09:48
got up, she was upset. I did quite like that. I thought
1:09:51
that was quite touch him. So the bullshit, how Kirk knows how to
1:09:58
drive right? Gets that car? The most standout car in the world,
1:10:03
and he drives it like seven of nine did in the Last Bloody Car?
1:10:06
Do you remember that? And we all laugh. Look at now she's a
1:10:12
really good driver and he knows how to drive like that straight. I knew
1:10:15
he was going to do that, Jake, and I thought, all of
1:10:16
a sudden, he's going to know how to drive like a beast. No
1:10:20
Awful hated it. The tropes. Yeah, there's a crazy cookie conspiracy theorist
1:10:29
which helps them out. But obviously I didn't see it coming that she was
1:10:31
the one that was bad. I didn't see that coming, and I just
1:10:40
put at the end it is so bad. Honestly, I think this season
1:10:45
of Strange New World is on a getting to the point of Dianas as Discovery,
1:10:53
and I think the only thing that saves it sometimes is when Handsome Mountain
1:10:58
is on it. Now, this might not be a your opinion, but
1:11:02
I said at the beginning I was particularly looking forward to it, and at
1:11:06
the beginning of the season, I wasn't really looking forward to it, and
1:11:11
it really needs to improve, because I've got to tell you, boys,
1:11:14
I'm not enjoying this at all. It's becoming a chore and a ball.
1:11:18
With that said, your show isn't a chore a ball. I love it.
1:11:23
I love you boys. We will speak soon. I'm sure I love
1:11:29
you. No, Homo, well, Tim, I mean obviously I don't
1:11:36
agree with you on this, uh last episode, but I love hearing from
1:11:44
you, buddy, yet from from across the pond, and uh, I
1:11:54
love hearing from everybody. And if you would like to leave us a message,
1:11:59
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1:12:30
Pond. Sorry, well great, all right, anything else as we wrap
1:12:39
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1:12:41
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