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Conquering Overwhelm with Janice Russell, the Overwhelm Slayer · The Eye Believe Podcast

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  Hi everyone, I'm Megan
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  with the Eye Believe Podcast and today we have an amazing guest.
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  We have Janice Russell, the Overwhelm Slayer,
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  and she has a great freebie for you.
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  So stick around. Don't go anywhere.
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  But first I want to thank you for tuning in.
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  keep listening, watching anywhere you get this.
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  And that would be amazing.
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  so Janice, you are the Overwhelm Slayer.
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  Can you tell us why people call you the Overwhelm Slayer?
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  Well, because the population that I work with
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  is people with either a new medical diagnosis
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  or a medical diagnosis, a previous one that has changed in some way.
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  And this is brain based disorders, immune disease,
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  autoimmune diseases and body based conditions.
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  And what I have found is that oftentimes with such a diagnosis,
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  you get into overwhelm, if you weren't already before it
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  just in regular life, but you get into overwhelm.
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  And so part of what I do is help people to get out of overwhelm.
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  That's amazing. I love that.
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  I mean, I think
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  you never are going to know what it's going to feel like until you're there,
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  so there's no way to prepare for it ahead of time.
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  It's one of those things you just find yourself there and you're blindsided.
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  And so to have someone come in like you who can help,
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  who kind of knows what to do and where to put the pieces is huge.
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  I didn't even know that there was somebody like you.
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  it is sort of a new thing, I'll say.
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  So, I have a background, first of all, as a special education teacher.
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  And then in corporate world and then doing
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  some hands on work and organizing and productivity.
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  And what I found was that there was
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  this big gap, with people that, like I said,
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  new diagnosis or an old diagnosis that has changed in some way.
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  I myself, have had ten major surgeries
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  over the course of my life, as well as clinical depression.
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  And I have helped, a number of people
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  with, again, medical diagnoses across the board.
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  And what I found out is that, like you said, you get this surprise,
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  even if you thought you might suspect
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  that you have something, it still is sort of a surprise.
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  And daily life has to carry on in the midst of, you know,
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  what all is happening, which may include, you know, lots of testing,
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  redoing your own research on things, looking at treatments and stuff like that.
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  And that takes up time.
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  It takes up mental energy.
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  And so I come in now virtually through coaching and with accountability
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  to help people learn how to manage that, crossing off their to do's,
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  managing their paperwork or digital documents,
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  depending on how they do things, as well as optimizing their time.
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  That's amazing.
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  I think I need someone to optimize my time just normally.
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  So especially in that situation that's very professional.
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  Definitely.
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  so what are some of the most common goals that your patients have?
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  That's a really good question.
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  So a lot of them have to do with crossing off to dos.
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  and that automatic
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  actually means we're talking about how you use your time.
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  Some of those things are sort of, you know, linked together.
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  so that's, that's the first thing is we
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  look at what for people who have that as the goal, we look at,
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  you know, what they're doing now to track their tasks.
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  how that's working and or not working.
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  And then I look at things like, and this is going to sound strange,
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  but how what their values are, their personal values are.
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  And the reason I ask about that, and I have some exercises about that,
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  is that that will help inform when we're looking at the to dos,
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  especially ones of a more volunteer nature.
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  because sometimes we're just doing things because
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  we've always done them, or that's the way they've always been done.
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  And when we're now pressed for time in some way,
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  some of those either need to be deleted.
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  altogether or deferred for another time.
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  And being able to tie things back to personal values,
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  if you're working, you know, to your professional objective, CVS
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  helps to then go, okay, well, I still only have 24 hours in the day.
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  and now I have some extra, you know, activities
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  that I have to do, like them or not, as it were.
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  And so something has to give somewhere.
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  And I can tell you that what,
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  what usually gives is things like sleep,
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  which is more important than ever.
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  well, regularly it's more important.
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  It's even more important when you're,
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  when you're, fighting, some kind of medical diagnosis.
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  So, you know, we want to make sure adequate sleep,
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  that for most adults does not mean six hours a night.
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  It means eight. seven, maybe,
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  sometimes nine, depending
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  on, you know, depending on the person, sometimes even a little bit more.
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  So we have to look at okay.
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  What what's going to you know what either needs to be shortened
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  in terms of how long I commit to do it or how long I do per task or what.
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  You know, what just gets taken out altogether.
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  Yeah, that's so important.
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  I think in this day and age especially, people
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  don't prioritize self-care like sleep, right?
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  And we say yes to everything because we think we have that.
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  If we don't join the PTA and we don't go here
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  and we don't take our neighbor dinner and we don't do all these things,
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  then we're, we're we're bad or we're lazy or we're not doing enough.
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  But in the opposite, we actually are doing way too much.
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  And we need to learn how to say no and be okay with that.
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  And then on the opposite side, when somebody tells us no,
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  not make them feel guilty, but say, yeah, I understand.
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  Absolutely.
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  And a large part of that is the setting of boundaries, which is what saying no is.
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  I'm it also can be setting boundaries.
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  So I'll just take something like research, which a lot of people like,
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  you know, oh, I have something new.
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  I want to go find out about it.
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  And we all know that you can go down a rabbit hole on the internet.
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  and most people accept that
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  not everything on the internet is true.
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  but you can still go down the rabbit hole.
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  So one way that you can help yourself with that is to set a boundary.
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  in terms it could be several different ways.
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  It could be I'm only going to spend,
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  you know, 30 minutes or an hour doing a research
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  and setting one or more time or to keep yourself to that.
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  It can be a boundary around how many places you're going to go.
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  Look, now, obviously they need to come to your site.
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  That's very, very important.
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  if they want some other information, I advise people
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  to go to the association of whatever, diagnosis it is.
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  And then to pick one of the I call them the biggies, the majors, you know,
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  the Mayo Clinic, Cleveland Clinic, Johns Hopkins, one of those that again
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  up to date, and you can easily find information.
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  And that way, again, you've got a boundary and you're not taking as much time.
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  and like you said, with the self-care piece,
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  sometimes that means, hey, you can't do what you've done in the past,
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  even if it's something fun.
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  And that can be very hard, you know?
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  And so it might be okay, I can't have dinner with my best friend,
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  you know, there's there's an immunity issue with,
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  you know, with the treatment that I'm on and so I can't go out.
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  But we could have a 30 minute zoom or,
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  depending on the weather, where you live and when you're listening to this,
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  you know, I can I can sit on my porch and the other,
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  my friend can sit in a chair in the yard, sort of like back in the pandemic times.
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  but again, you can set the amount of time
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  and some of that may be energy related, and some of it may just be, you know what?
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  30 minutes. I'd love to spend more.
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  I know we usually spend two hours, but 30 minutes is all I can do.
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  But it's important enough for me to want to do that.
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  Yeah, that's so important.
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  And it's it's so empowering to be able to say, hey,
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  this is what I can do, and this is what I'm willing to do
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  and not feel guilty because the worst feeling
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  is when you say yes to something, you know you can't do it,
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  and you immediately regret it, but you don't know what to do about it.
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  So yeah, having those boundaries in place ahead of time, that's huge.
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  And some of it can be
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  using or making macro decisions.
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  And so it can be you know what.
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  Right now my energy is so low that any or you know, just the
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  I don't want to be around people because I don't want to
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  I have to explain things for the umpteenth time.
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  You know, there could be any number of reasons,
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  but you could say, you know, for the next three months, the most time
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  I'm going to spend the evening with a good friend is an hour.
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  And then that way
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  when you set that up in advance, which you can't do for everything,
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  but for some things, you can set that up and say, you know, this is it.
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  And that way when someone calls, you already have the answer
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  and you can say, right now I can only spend an hour,
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  with, with anybody that I spend time with.
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  so that's, you know, that's one way to do it.
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  Another macro decision can be not going to say no
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  to any, not to say yes to anything new,
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  no matter how exciting it may sound.
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  You know, again though, you can say to someone,
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  gosh, that sounds like a really great opportunity.
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  Unfortunately, right now I can't, you know, if it if it comes up again and,
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  you know, six months, a year, whatever timeframe you want to put out there,
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  you know, please reach out to me because I'd really love to do that.
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  So you're not saying no. Never.
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  You're saying no right now.
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  Okay.
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  So what are some common questions people give you?
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  Well let's see, that's a really good question.
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  What are some common questions?
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  how to do things.
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  whether it is how to do a specific task if they haven't done it before.
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  another big one is how to manage
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  all the medical related paperwork.
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  I know exactly. I'm.
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  And you know that.
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  I mean, that's a multi-pronged, you know, big, huge thing that happens.
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  And so you've got depending
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  obviously, on insurance, which is its own thing.
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  You've got information from the medical people,
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  which again, could be one, or it could be 3 or 5.
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  and some of them are going to send it to you via email.
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  Some it's going to be on a portal somewhere, and some may give you
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  a handout.
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  and the same with when you do your own research on things.
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  Depending on what you feel comfortable with,
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  you may have things that you print out.
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  You may save certain websites,
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  you may clip some articles and save them as articles on your computer.
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  And so you've got that piece.
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  And then when it comes to the insurance piece,
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  some people need to get referrals.
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  So you have to track that.
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  And sometimes with the referrals you have to reach out to them.
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  Sometimes they have to reach out to you,
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  which means you've got to track where you are in that cycle.
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  as well as,
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  you know, the explanation of benefits to make sure that you're, you know,
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  only getting charts, what you should be and not getting overcharged.
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  and then, you know, obviously paying the insurance bills, paying
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  whatever else you owe to the doctors after insurance has covered.
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  And, you know, depending on where you are and deductible land,
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  how much that is so and which also means,
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  of course, you're, you've got bills to pay attention to as well.
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  So, you know, one of the big things is how how do we manage all that.
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  And, you know, I'd love to say here the five steps go.
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  unfortunately not the way it works.
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  first of all, of course we have to.
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  I, you know, I find out a little bit from them whether or not they're,
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  you know, feel more comfortable with electronic stuff or with paper stuff.
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  That's the first thing.
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  the second thing is, which ties into that a lot, is what do they need
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  to have accessible at hand, like when they're at an appointment
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  versus what do they just need to get to when they're at home?
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  I know for me, for example, I don't like using my phone
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  for long documents, so I use my phone for the calendar.
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  but if I have an article that I want to show to the doctor
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  or that I want to be able to read right before I go into the appointment,
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  I print it out, because I don't want to look at it on my phone.
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  now, in some cases, I have created like a half inch notebook
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  and printed like three important articles, because those are the ones
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  I want the most access to. I'm
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  not going to print 100 articles because I don't want to waste that much paper.
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  but again, that's me personally.
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  Other people, it's, you know, it's it may be different for them.
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  the same with anything.
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  I mean, when you look at, you know, information from your insurance company,
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  are you going to keep it digitally or are you going to keep it in paper
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  if it's digital or are you, you know, do you have a good way to file it
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  because, you know, again, lots of ways to do that
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  can just be on a hard drive, can be up in the cloud somewhere.
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  How you name the document is a really important piece.
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  because obviously you want to know a little bit about,
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  you know, sort of who the document is from what it's in regard to.
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  You probably even want to know the date because, you know, if you have
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  if you have several different documents from that same person, you want to know
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  which one is the most recent and you know which one's the older one.
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  So we look at things like how do you name the files, which
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  when I say it, most people are thinking that I'm only talking about paper files.
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  And that also is very important for people to keep the paper files.
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  But with the electronic files it's equally as important,
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  because you still want to be able to find them.
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  so that's really a huge piece of it is managing that.
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  And people will be like, you know, I don't know.
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  And for everybody, it's a little bit different.
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  I mean, even though everything that I just mentioned is pretty common,
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  if someone has a diagnosis,
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  you know, they're going to have some type of medical paperwork from insurance,
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  they're going to have some bills sometimes.
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  Of course, we all know that, that that can differ.
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  So who the bill is coming from may not be actually who you sa
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  because they've got a different company name you know.
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  So you've got to navigate all that as well as again
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  your own research maybe information from friends who have been through it.
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  so that stuff is all common, but how the individual person
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  navigates that and puts that together is very different.
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  So that's part of me finding out how their brain works.
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  again, since I work with adults, you know, what they have found
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  that works in the past?
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  What they know for sure doesn't work in the past.
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  because we don't want to have to reinvent the wheel.
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  I mean, that's silly.
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  Let's let's use the lessons from the past and then make,
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  you know, make some new decisions going forward to make it better.
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  Definitely. That that's that's Martin.
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  Those are those little things that you just don't think of.
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  And then all of a sudden you look at your computer
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  and you have all these files and you don't know how to sift through them.
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  But if you can start from day one with somebody
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  saying, hey, name them like this, or, you know, however it works for you.
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  And so you start with that system.
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  You've just them hours and hours of frustration and headaches.
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  Absolutely, absolutely.
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  So how do you help your clients optimize their time?
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  Well, one of the first things that I do is
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  find out a little bit about how they see time,
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  because they're sort of the universal time of their 24 hours in the day.
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  And, you know, 365 days in a year
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  and that kind of stuff, which we can't do anything about,
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  and then are sort of the and by the way, part of that universal
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  time is things like, you know, there's a past, present and future again,
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  just sort of some of the, some of the general things.
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  But then there's someone's time mindset.
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  And so some people can view time as sort of the enemy.
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  Some people can view time as it doesn't really apply to them.
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  you know, so different ways to view time.
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  And when we're talking about, you know, a diagnosis or anything
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  that's a new impact to your schedule, much less, again, your regular schedule,
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  we have to look at okay, well, there are appointments.
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  And, you know, although we all know that many doctors
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  tend to not run on time, they expect us to be there on time.
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  and it can really throw off our schedule if,
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  you know, we get there late and they, you know, are ready at or past ready.
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  And so I like to look at several different things.
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  Number one is when you're going somewhere anywhere can be
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  an appointment can be dinner out can be to target wherever you're going.
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  When you're planning, you need to make sure
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  you plan the amount of driving time.
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  So you know, if you if you suspect that your doctor's appointment
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  is going to be 30 minutes, you know, but you're also planning
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  in your calendar, or you can't just plan a 30 minute appointment.
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  You need to plan.
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  Okay.
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  How long is it going to take me to drive there on each end,
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  depending on what you're doing before and after,
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  you also have to look at.
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  Okay, so where's the parking and how long does it take me to
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  get from parking into the building or out?
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  Because again, if you live in an apartment,
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  you may have parking that's not right in front of your house.
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  So you've got that, but you also get some doctor's offices.
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  You can park right in front of and others
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  you got a parking, a deck, and you got to remember where you are.
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  And you have to go through three elevators and you know, so
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  you've got to plan that piece and the same even when you go to,
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  you know, the grocery store or the target or wherever,
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  you know, if you're going to familiar ones for you, you sort of know
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  which ones you can usually get a parking spot right near the front versus
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  which ones you're going to be a couple of miles away,
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  you know, getting into extra steps that day.
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  So that's a really big piece of,
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  of optimizing time is is putting in that white space.
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  another piece to optimizing time is
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  and I know people really don't like to do this, but
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  doing some estimating, like when you're working on a task,
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  you know, estimating how long it might take,
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  and the reason for that is to then sort of know how much time you have,
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  if you're we'll just say that you're, you're working and,
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  you know, you have four hours in the office that day.
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  If you have a really long to do list and you've got one or more meetings,
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  you might not be able to fit everything in.
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  And it's easier to see that if you can sort of judge.
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  Okay, well, the meetings are going to run about this long
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  and this task is going to take, probably about this.
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  And, and it's always better to overestimate, by the way.
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  So because usually tasks take longer than we think.
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  the other piece that really crosses over with the to do's
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  and the time is to understand
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  and apply the difference between tasks and projects,
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  because many people get these confused and then they get frustrated.
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  So tasks are one step and they take a short period of time,
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  and projects are multiple steps and they take a longer period of time.
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  So an example would be
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  which most people can conceptualize pretty easily is a garage.
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  If I have someone tell me that they are going to organize their garage
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  this weekend, I am going to.
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  Well, first of all, I'm going to ask and make sure.
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  But if it's, you know, if it's fairly cluttered,
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  I'm going to say that's probably not going to happen.
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  because there's a lot to organize in a garage.
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  and so that is a project and it probably is going to take
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  multiple times and even multiple weekends.
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  But a task might be okay.
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  I'm going to gather the supplies that I need for items
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  that are going to be thrown away versus items
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  that are going to be recycled versus items that are going to be donated.
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  That's a task. I can gather those supplies.
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  I can have them, a task might be, you know what?
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  I'm going to go through this one shelf right here.
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  That's a task, which means that depending on
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  how many shelves you have, you've got a number of tasks.
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  So again, that really helps because on a list,
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  if you've got organize the garage and go through all my explanations
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  of benefits and research the five different treatment types
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  that I have, the option for that, that if we're trying to
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  do those within a day or even three days, probably not going to happen.
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  Whereas and so then you get discouraged because you have a list
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  and there are no check marks on it.
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  We don't feel like we're getting anything done.
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  Whereas if you have individual tasks like the ones I set for the garage
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  or like the EOB is, it could be, you know, okay,
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  if you haven't been keeping up with them, which can be hard
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  if you have a lot of them coming in all at once.
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  I, as someone who has had surgeries
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  and had physical therapy, you know, I know how frequently those can come in.
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  And if so, if you're backlogged, it could be.
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  You know what?
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  I'm just going to work on the explanation of benefits for this week
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  or these two weeks or some some boundary, some time, you know,
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  some time frame to it because then it's like, okay, I can get that done.
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  And then for the next one, I'll choose the next, you know, the next time slot.
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  So that's, you know, that's another really big piece to it as well.
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  Yeah.
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  That's so true.
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  I mean I have done that a million times.
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  Thought, oh, I get all this stuff done this weekend.
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  And then I get one of them done, if even.
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  And also schedule time to relax
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  and take care of yourself like we talked about the self-care don't for schedule
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  your whole weekend where work or weekday whatever day it is you know right?
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  Got all these projects and you know, put an hour in there to go.
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  Just rest.
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  Well.
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  And that's a really big piece is the the energy management piece, which
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  when you have a medical diagnosis,
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  you know, it may or may not tax you physically.
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  More than likely it will, even if it's one that,
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  you know, whether it's cancer or any other diagnosis,
• 24:34
  you're just going to need some time to be down because you're not, like,
• 24:37
  involved in doctor's appointments and everything else so that you need that.
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  But they may they can also impact your actual energy level.
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  And so it's like you can't keep pushing through.
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  If before you could get
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  seven hours of sleep and have you know this much time
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  to get everything else done, and now you need nine hours.
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  and when you're awake, really, only,
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  you know, five of those are good energy hours for you
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  so that, you know, that's another piece to play with.
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  as well as the when is your energy the best?
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  Because there, there is nothing harder
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  than trying to do a high energy task
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  or a task you really don't want to do anyway.
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  When you're at the lowest energy point.
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  That is a recipe for procrastination
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  and discourage and frustration and throwing things
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  absolutely.
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  So the hard
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  I mean again, this some of this is like regular life stuff.
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  and then you have to, you know, you have to introduce in the other,
• 25:51
  you know, the other piece of the medical diagnosis.
• 25:53
  But, you know, I mean, I know for myself, it's like if I am a morning person.
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  So if I put off until the afternoon something
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  I already don't want to do, it's not going to happen.
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  So, you know, I, I know that
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  it needs to happen in the morning.
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  and the same is true even if it's something that you want to
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  do, if it's a higher task, you know, uses more brainpower
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  or whatever, you need to do it at your highest energy level.
• 26:24
  That's very true.
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  And, you know, you change through the years.
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  you know, when I had my kids, I was in my 20s
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  and I could stay up all night with them,
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  and then I could function fine during the day.
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  And now they're teenagers.
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  They do their own thing.
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  And, by afternoon, I'm toast, and I don't want to do anything.
• 26:43
  So, again, I'm not a morning person.
• 26:45
  But again,
• 26:46
  if it doesn't happen in the morning, I'm not going to probably get to it.
• 26:50
  Right? Right.
• 26:52
  And really accounting for I mean aware is, is a really big piece.
• 26:55
  So you know, taking that example or any example, I mean, you know,
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  most adults change over time.
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  you know, for a variety of reasons in terms of how their,
• 27:07
  you know, how their body does and doesn't process the world.
• 27:12
  and so things change.
• 27:14
  And it, it is sort of a rude awakening when you realize that, oh, yeah, in my 20s
• 27:20
  or even 30s, I was able to do this and this and now not quite so much.
• 27:26
  And so I need to, you know, I need to to re plan
• 27:30
  so that
• 27:30
  I can get the things done that I want to get done and need.
• 27:34
  There's that whole things I need to get done as an adult.
• 27:37
  And then the things that I want to get done because they're fun.
• 27:42
  and so balancing
• 27:43
  that out against whatever changes have impacted you.
• 27:47
  Yeah, absolutely. And it's it's hard to do.
• 27:50
  So I'm glad that we have you to come in and help us figure this out.
• 27:56
  Well, I, I really enjoy it.
• 27:57
  And it really helps that I,
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  you know, that I have lived through it as well as that I have worked
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  with hundreds of clients who who have, some kind of a medical diagnosis,
• 28:11
  because then I have experienced, personal and professional, that I can draw on.
• 28:16
  Yeah.
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  Because no matter what they're going through
• 28:19
  or what their personality type is, you've probably seen something very close,
• 28:23
  very similar, where you can say, I know what my work for you.
• 28:27
  Yeah.
• 28:28
  And I'll always,
• 28:29
  you know, I'll always also ask questions.
• 28:32
  and that's a really big piece because I'm a coach and a consultant.
• 28:37
  And as a coach, part of what I do is help
• 28:40
  people become more aware of how they interact in their environment.
• 28:44
  and what will work for them.
• 28:47
  And then where, you know, where they're feeling that gap of, okay, I'm not sure.
• 28:52
  I mean, I've had people, you know, like, I'll ask a question,
• 28:54
  do you prefer this or this?
• 28:55
  And they're like, I really don't know.
• 28:57
  And then we talk about, you know, things like decision making
• 29:00
  and how we can figure it out because those are skills that can help
• 29:05
  just as well as, you know, how to name your digital file.
• 29:09
  Yeah, exactly.
• 29:10
  And, you know, trial and error a little bit to I'm sure they probably track.
• 29:13
  Absolutely.
• 29:14
  Yeah. Think, oh that didn't work as well as I thought.
• 29:17
  Or sometimes you surprise yourself.
• 29:19
  You really like something and you didn't think you would.
• 29:22
  Absolutely. Experimenting.
• 29:24
  That's what I that's what I think of it as, is that sometimes we're experimenting
• 29:29
  and the main you know, the main piece to that is
• 29:33
  you know, giving it a good amount of time so that we aren't cutting it off
• 29:37
  at the knees, without going so long that it's like, okay, well, this, you know.
• 29:43
  Yeah. This hasn't worked for the past three months.
• 29:45
  Okay.
• 29:46
  Well, if it hadn't worked for the past three
• 29:48
  months, it probably wasn't working after a month.
• 29:49
  So let's, let's, let's shift gears a little bit
• 29:52
  and figure out what might work a little bit better.
• 29:56
  Definitely.
• 29:57
  So if somebody wants to work with you, how do they contact you.
• 30:00
  So I can be found at Janice russell.com.
• 30:04
  And I will spell that out because there are different ways to spell
• 30:08
  both my first name and my last name.
• 30:11
  So Stu.
• 30:13
  Okay. So and it'll be in the shout out.
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  So j and I c e
• 30:19
  and then r u ssl and that's dot com.
• 30:23
  you will also find me on Facebook
• 30:26
  and YouTube and Instagram.
• 30:30
  had to think about that a minute.
• 30:31
  And LinkedIn actually, so you can find me in all those places.
• 30:35
  and I do have a newsletter that goes out and, you know, a blog
• 30:41
  and all sorts of other things, but the website's probably the easiest
• 30:44
  because I will also give you a way to contact me email and phone number.
• 30:48
  Fantastic.
• 30:50
  Now tell us about the freebie.
• 30:52
  So it is a downloadable PDF so people can choose if they want to save it
• 30:58
  to, you know, to their digital device or if they want to print it out.
• 31:02
  It is called the top ten Ways to Manage Your Schedule.
• 31:05
  When it's disrupted by diagnosis.
• 31:08
  so pretty applicable to people who have a diagnosis.
• 31:13
  And, the way to get it is to go to schedule dot
• 31:19
  overwhelm slayer.com.
• 31:22
  So it's the top ten ways.
• 31:25
  So as you can imagine that means there are ten different things that you can do
• 31:29
  not all at once though.
• 31:30
  I tell people you you don't want to do these all at once.
• 31:32
  You may just do 1 or 2 little things and hey, you may already be doing
• 31:36
  some of those ten ways, so you know, then you will have fewer to do.
• 31:40
  but just and some of it's a few of the things we've mentioned
• 31:43
  and some of it's, you know, other stuff.
• 31:44
  And I've included some illustrations too in there for people that, you know,
• 31:48
  sort of want that want a little bit more context, and schedule dot overwhelm.
• 31:53
  slayer.com will take you to that place.
• 31:57
  Awesome.
• 31:57
  Will, thank you so much for giving a freebie to our listeners.
• 32:00
  That is just amazing.
• 32:02
  We can't thank you enough for coming on and giving us your time
• 32:05
  and your expertise, and I hope that a lot of people will be able to find
• 32:09
  you and work with you, because I know what you're giving is very valuable.
• 32:13
  Well, thank you so much.
• 32:14
  It has been my pleasure as well because I love what I do.
• 32:17
  So I love helping people. Amazing.