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610 CKTB Pulp Fiction & The Memification of the Pentagon Pulpit · Kvetch & Release

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  Speaker 1: I want you to close your eyes and imagine a solemn,
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  Speaker 1: serious Christian worship service at the United States Pentagon. Now,
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  Speaker 1: as we know, the US is currently in an active,
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  Speaker 1: tense military conflict with Iran. The Secretary of Defense in
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  Speaker 1: the US Pete Hegseth, steps up to the microphone to
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  Speaker 1: read a battlefield prayer meant to honor a recent rescue mission.
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  Speaker 1: He says, it's from the Bible, and it's Ezekiel twenty
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  Speaker 1: five seventeen. But hang on, Pete got it wrong. It's
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  Speaker 1: actually from pulp fiction and it's what Samuel L. Jackson
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  Speaker 1: would read before he kills somebody claiming it was from
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  Speaker 1: Ezekiel twenty five seventeen. Well, in fact, it's not from
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  Speaker 1: the Good Book. It is from the Book of Quentin Tarantino.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How do you make sense of this? We're going to
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  Speaker 1: ask broadcaster, political commentator and host of the Cavetch and
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  Speaker 1: Release podcast, Our good friend John Lidkey is here. Good morning, John,
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  Speaker 1: Good morning Gene.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the single biggest catastrophic vetting failure in recent
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  Speaker 2: memory is probably this. Right now, we're in an active
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  Speaker 2: conflict with Iran. The straight up Horn moves, thank God,
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  Speaker 2: has just opened up. But when we talked about this yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: it was still fully closed. And the Secretary of War,
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  Speaker 2: a title that already sounds like it's been ripped from
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  Speaker 2: the pulp fiction newsreels already of the forties, quite frankly,
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  Speaker 2: is delivering a prayer that comes from pulp fiction. Let's
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  Speaker 2: get real. In crisis comms, the rule is simple. If
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  Speaker 2: you're explaining you're losing, and if you have people like
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  Speaker 2: you and me jan talking about it on the radio,
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  Speaker 2: you've really stepped in it. Right now, this administration is
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  Speaker 2: trying to explain the nuance of unit lore to a
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  Speaker 2: global audience that just sees Samuel L. Jackson. They've managed
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  Speaker 2: to turn a solemn moment for the troops into a
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  Speaker 2: pulp fiction press nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So for civilians, and I don't know exactly what
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  Speaker 1: this phrase is, You're gonna have to tell us all.
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  Speaker 1: What is CESAR twenty five seventeen and why is a
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  Speaker 1: defense secretary reading that during an active conflict?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? So CEESAR twenty five seventeen. CEESAR is combat search
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  Speaker 2: and rescue. And this is a prayer that's reportedly was
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  Speaker 2: used during the actual rescue of two airmen shot down
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  Speaker 2: recently in Iran. So to the guys in the cockpit,
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  Speaker 2: Ceesar twenty five seventeen is an appropriated version of a
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  Speaker 2: Zekiel twenty five seventeen, which talks about how the Lord
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  Speaker 2: has vengeance and he comes to do it. I'm not Christian.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to read it all out in full.
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  Speaker 2: And there's multiple versions now, from what heg Seth said,
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  Speaker 2: to what Cesar says, to what was said in the flick,
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  Speaker 2: to what Ezekiel twenty five seventeen is. But the fact
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  Speaker 2: of the matter is, well, it's an actual, dark, gritty
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  Speaker 2: and moral effective prayer for troops on the battlefield going
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  Speaker 2: into it. Hegzeth is not a pilot and a cockpit.
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  Speaker 2: He's a cabinet official at a Pentagon pulpit delivering this
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  Speaker 2: with religious solemnity and calling it a Ezekiel twenty five seventeen,
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  Speaker 2: or at least not making clear of what it was.
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  Speaker 2: He blurred the lines between sacred scripture and pulp fiction.
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  Speaker 2: So if he just credited the movie, it's a non story.
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  Speaker 2: But he's trying to pass it off as if it
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  Speaker 2: was the word of God and stronger than it is.
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  Speaker 2: Actually written on the paper that was professed. So the
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  Speaker 2: question that people are asking is was this guy duped
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  Speaker 2: or is he just playing a role in this binger
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  Speaker 2: in chiefs administration.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I saw something online the other day.
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  Speaker 1: Russian State TV is like, I mean, they're having a
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  Speaker 1: laugh with us. They're doing a victory lap about how
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  Speaker 1: silly and stupid PD is. Now do you think he
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  Speaker 1: just got duped by this or does he just not know?
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing, I mean, regardless of if
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  Speaker 2: he's in or out of the joke right now, it's
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  Speaker 2: the ultimate strategic loss. RT is running the Secretary of
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  Speaker 2: War footage with a logo in the top right victory
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  Speaker 2: lap style you handed the Kremlin shovel to bury a
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  Speaker 2: Medican American credibility right now. But I really don't think
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  Speaker 2: they care. This is the memification of the Pentagon. They
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  Speaker 2: want the media to hyperventilate over movie quote so they
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  Speaker 2: can point to out of touch media elites and say
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  Speaker 2: that we just hate the soldiers and their traditions. This
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  Speaker 2: is just more political theater being laid out for an
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  Speaker 2: audience that's designed for a dopamine head of domestic spite,
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  Speaker 2: while the actual world is still splintering.
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  Speaker 1: Right well, you know, because of the show. I do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of work in the afternoon and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the you know, I spend a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: online on things like the various social media platforms and
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  Speaker 1: especially a Twitter or x or whatever you want to
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  Speaker 1: call it. Now, the Internet is losing its mind over this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, on the left hand side of this screen,
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  Speaker 1: they have Samuel L. Jackson from pulp fiction, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with his handgun out, and then on the right hand
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  Speaker 1: side of the screen they got Pete and they're reading thing.
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  Speaker 1: They're reading this practically in sync. So what is all
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  Speaker 1: of this in the reaction? I mean, you're in the
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  Speaker 1: communication business, what's it looking like in urine?
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  Speaker 2: This is a total pressure cooker failure of contromission and
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  Speaker 2: bias here. I mean half if the Internet believes it's
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  Speaker 2: one thing, half believes it's the other, and that Eset
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  Speaker 2: is a clown. This is an indictment of the shared
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  Speaker 2: reality that we all lived in. More than anything, people
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  Speaker 2: don't want the truth, you know that more than anyone
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  Speaker 2: talking through the media. They want the meme that fits
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  Speaker 2: their prior. So if they think Egseth is a fool,
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  Speaker 2: he was duped. If they love Trump, well, then it's
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  Speaker 2: trolling the liberals. Nobody's digging into actually find out if
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  Speaker 2: this is tactical unit lore. No one's doing the research
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  Speaker 2: that you and I had to do to figure out
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  Speaker 2: this segment. It's twenty twenty six, Gene, the scoreboards a lie,
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  Speaker 2: the points don't matter, and the dopamine fueled spite has
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  Speaker 2: taken the wheel.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the next thing, you know, the President of
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  Speaker 1: the United States will be going after the Pope. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: hang on, he already did that. Yeah, I want to
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  Speaker 1: bring this back to Canada militarily. The US and Canada
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  Speaker 1: are tied. It's a hip things like nor Red NATO
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  Speaker 1: trade culture. So when some official and Autiba who's got
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  Speaker 1: a lot more brain power than PD, see something like this,
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  Speaker 1: how does it get played out for our country here?
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  Speaker 2: I would imagine that the Apple watches and Android watches,
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  Speaker 2: heart rate monitors start to go up onto high. Right now,
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  Speaker 2: the massive anxiety has to be going through the roof.
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  Speaker 2: We need a strong, stable United States as the de
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  Speaker 2: facto leader of NATO norad of the world. Period. When
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  Speaker 2: the Pentagon starts looking like a Tarantino film set, the
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  Speaker 2: Allies start asking who's handling the new codes beyond the
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  Speaker 2: man who gets to decide to use them. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've got the memes, we've got the heavy religious infusion
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  Speaker 2: of theater into government, and that's really off putting the
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  Speaker 2: Canadians as well. We're not used to our military strategy
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  Speaker 2: being meshed with televised sermons. So from a Canadian perspective,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't looking like strength. It's looking like it's completely unhinged.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So imagine you're a strategist up in Ottawa. How
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  Speaker 1: are you advising our defense minister on handling questions what
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  Speaker 1: Pete said and got it all wrong? What's your advice?
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  Speaker 2: Steer clear, do not engage, minister. There is no upside
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  Speaker 2: for us to get stuck in a geopolitical fan fiction
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  Speaker 2: fight with the president or his Secretary of War. We've
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  Speaker 2: got enough trade friction and border to worry about right
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  Speaker 2: now without commenting on movie quotes, and if the media
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  Speaker 2: tries to bait you into it, to flect away from it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's been quite a week. First, we have
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  Speaker 1: Ezekiel twenty five seventeen. We have the President of the
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  Speaker 1: United States portraying himself as Jesus then he goes after
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  Speaker 1: the Pope, and then there's another photo of Jesus hugging Trump,
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  Speaker 1: and now we're going through this. I mean, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: such a crazy time. And you know, I've been thinking
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  Speaker 1: about this story a lot this morning because I know
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  Speaker 1: that I was going to be talking to you. There's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of me who's actually thinking they did
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  Speaker 1: this pulp fiction thing on person to show they're standing
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  Speaker 1: up to over.
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  Speaker 2: Ran You know, it's quite possible that could be the
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  Speaker 2: only caveat that's here. If you are the you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to show that you're standing up to
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  Speaker 2: Iran and that you're strong and that you're forceful and
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  Speaker 2: you're willing to push past all known barriers and guard rails,
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  Speaker 2: you would do something like this. But you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you're the Canadian administration here and you're looking at polling,
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  Speaker 2: you might still see that a Trump shield is the
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  Speaker 2: only path moving forward. I just saw a recent polling
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  Speaker 2: saying that the liberal camp is primarily comprised of those
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  Speaker 2: who are anti Trump. So if they're thinking picking a
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  Speaker 2: fight over American absurdity will park more voters in their camp,
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  Speaker 2: that's what they're going to be doing. But Jeane. Let
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  Speaker 2: me just tell you here's some free advice.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I do not advise picking fights with nuclear powers just
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  Speaker 2: for domestic polling bumps. That's bad strategy and it's a
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  Speaker 2: dangerous game to play.
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  Speaker 1: Well, John, We tried to reach Samuel L. Jackson for
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  Speaker 1: comment on this story, but he didn't get to us
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  Speaker 1: some time for the broadcast.
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  Speaker 2: Well, maybe he will for next week.
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  Speaker 1: All right, great story, John, I'm sure to appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. We'll talk to you next Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Cheers Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: There he goes, John Litke, Great storyteller. What an incredible story.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen this online? With Samuel L. Jackson on
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  Speaker 1: one side and Pete on the other side? Try to
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  Speaker 1: look it up. I mean, it's hysterical, but the guy
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  Speaker 1: is the defense minister. Yikes.