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Headless' Magical Mailbag- Sigils and More · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What what's going to happen?
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  Speaker 1: I'll take one? What a.
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  Speaker 2: Help?
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  Speaker 1: That's up everybody, We are alive. It is Thursday night.
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  Speaker 1: I got my co host Nick here with me. How
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  Speaker 1: is it going? Nick?
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  Speaker 2: All right, all right, thank you very much, appreciate it
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  Speaker 2: is that an interesting experience with the Menora and it's
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  Speaker 2: good to be on the show. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Very interesting experience. Uh yeah, So what did you learn
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  Speaker 1: about the Menora?
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  Speaker 2: I learned that it quite positively could match certain times
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  Speaker 2: in history and certain books in the Bible.
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  Speaker 1: That's the best way you could put it.
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  Speaker 2: On, to be honest with you. The most impressive thing
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  Speaker 2: was actually to me, and I think at Leasa even
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  Speaker 2: mentioned it too, was the whole Mike King thing in
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  Speaker 2: the middle with the letters like that. That to me
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  Speaker 2: actually was like, all right, there's something That's why I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, it was something else up with the
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  Speaker 2: other letters.
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  Speaker 1: Right right? Well, that that MLK sound in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the word right there has this weird connotation. So
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  Speaker 1: that's what they use at all these you know, temples
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  Speaker 1: to Malcourt, that's one of them. The hero of the
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  Speaker 1: Canaanite Phoenicians and Also, the MLK was also a reference
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  Speaker 1: to moloch rituals involving human sacrifice, So the minora sort
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  Speaker 1: of represents the MLK type rituals back of the Canaanite
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  Speaker 1: Phoenician days. So it has a lot of interesting connotations
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  Speaker 1: that we didn't get to because as I was holding
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  Speaker 1: my tongue as hard as I could. But today we
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  Speaker 1: got right here. Yeah, so this is my symbol. It's
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of alchemical ingredients. I wanted to highlight the bottom.
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  Speaker 1: It's veno.
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  Speaker 2: So the.
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  Speaker 1: Image for wine or the glyph for wine, and the
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  Speaker 1: alchemical text is a V. And I found that to
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  Speaker 1: be kind of interesting because you know, our conception, our
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  Speaker 1: shaping of the word really does have an influence on
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  Speaker 1: how we view the substance. Right, So as you're going
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  Speaker 1: through here, you could see they have planetary correspondence. You
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  Speaker 1: see a little bit of Saturn in that one, and
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  Speaker 1: all of these different metals, like you see antimony right here,
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  Speaker 1: it's the circle the globus cruciger, and you know that's
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  Speaker 1: that's interesting antimony. It's related to wolves and stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: it's it's this image of a man holding the globeless
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  Speaker 1: cruciger and that has to do with this kind of
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  Speaker 1: strange gray silver metal that has a lot of applications
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  Speaker 1: we don't normally talk about. But how is that the
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  Speaker 1: whole world? You know, because that's what the globalist globalist
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  Speaker 1: cruciger represents. And here we've got different signs for spirits,
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  Speaker 1: and then down here that would be the spirit of wine,
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  Speaker 1: and based off of how it was right christall would.
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  Speaker 3: Be the.
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  Speaker 1: Glass that they use. Yeah, just like the other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, the wine on the bottom. If you go
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  Speaker 1: to the V when you put the S above it,
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  Speaker 1: I believe that means it's distilled or spirits of wine.
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  Speaker 1: And when you put the when you put the S
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  Speaker 1: inside of it, that undistilled. So the spirit comes up
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  Speaker 1: out of the wine, which is how you distill it.
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  Speaker 1: I always found that interesting, so interesting that would be
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  Speaker 1: that would be a shot, right, that's a shot. The
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  Speaker 1: other one's a chaser.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, your fun.
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  Speaker 1: So that's my symbol. It's so much fun to get
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  Speaker 1: into these and just like try and find the other
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  Speaker 1: correspondences because you learned so much about what was going
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  Speaker 1: through their head when they made these different symbols.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, an antimony one is like like how yo
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you've seen this in the Catholic Church.
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  Speaker 1: Globus Cruciger. It's what all the kings carrying their other hand.
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  Speaker 1: They've got the uh, the staff in one hand or
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  Speaker 1: the scepter and the globist Cruciger and the other. You
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  Speaker 1: saw that in the movie We Frozen too, where she
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  Speaker 1: becomes the queen after her parents are killed and she
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  Speaker 1: has to pick up the objects and she ends up
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  Speaker 1: freezing the objects. Right, But it's the it's the phallus
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  Speaker 1: and the whole world. It's the whole world being commanded
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  Speaker 1: by the fallas. Again, it goes back into how people
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  Speaker 1: do magic. They've got the wand in one hand, and
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  Speaker 1: then they've got the whole world that they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: influence around them. So lots of that.
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  Speaker 2: Do you ever see Twin Peak? Did you? Were you
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  Speaker 2: into Twin Peaks at all? Oh? I asking you that
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  Speaker 2: I should know the answer it now, so.
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot about it from other people talking
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 2: In the third season, there's like this thing that like
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  Speaker 2: kind of looks like a well, people assume it's like
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  Speaker 2: a gigantic coffee pot, but it kind of looks like
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  Speaker 2: it's still already interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure he put a lot of stuff in there.
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  Speaker 1: He was very reversed in alchemy and.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff for show.
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  Speaker 3: A.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I figured I kind of cheesed out, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, let me think of something that
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  Speaker 2: I've already done, kind of. For people who don't like
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  Speaker 2: know what this is, I highly suggest to go back
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  Speaker 2: and watch the Robert Flood episode I did. This image
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  Speaker 2: will come up in there, and this is the title
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  Speaker 2: used by Flood, the Mysterium Mentist Humane or the Mystery
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  Speaker 2: the Mystery of the human Mind, And it does pop
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  Speaker 2: up in his eutrisky cosmo. I'm not even gonna read
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing again. Go check out the thing that
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  Speaker 2: I put out. I covered a bunch of his books.
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  Speaker 2: That was one of them. It is originally a copper
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  Speaker 2: plate engraving. It's around eighteen inches by eighteen by eleven
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  Speaker 2: centimeters and it is done by and you know, I
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  Speaker 2: do find it interesting, and I have thought about trying
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  Speaker 2: trying to maybe look into it and cover it. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if it be a solo, but I do
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  Speaker 2: think it's interesting. How Like when you get a lot
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  Speaker 2: of these old books, sometimes these people will draw these engravings.
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  Speaker 2: I think supposedly this was written, driven or drawn by
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  Speaker 2: Flood and then this person need the image. But I
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  Speaker 2: know this person Matthios, he's also pressed for other people,
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  Speaker 2: I think, like even Michael Myers, and not all the
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  Speaker 2: time do they actually give them the image. Sometimes they
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  Speaker 2: actually come up with it, and it's like how come whenever,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's interesting, like if that person's image matches what
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  Speaker 2: this person's trying to say in the occult in the book,
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  Speaker 2: I would question or think possibly the person making the
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  Speaker 2: image is understanding as well. And we never really seem
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  Speaker 2: to think about like who the fuck drew then, So
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about that long story short actually covering
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  Speaker 2: people who like have made engravings and I don't you know,
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  Speaker 2: nobody ever actually really talks about them, but like they
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  Speaker 2: are part of the book actually, And this was done
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  Speaker 2: by Matthios Marie and DA or whatever Matthias Mary and
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  Speaker 2: that's how I know. I don't know what the DA
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  Speaker 2: is for. But and it's again it's after Flood's drawing,
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  Speaker 2: and it was printed by Johann Theodore de Bryze Press.
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  Speaker 2: And that's like even another thing that the Brize Press
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  Speaker 2: was known for, like doing a lot of engravings and
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  Speaker 2: pressings for occultists, you know, so I've even thought of,
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  Speaker 2: like toisting them in there and looking, you know, just
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  Speaker 2: covering stuff like that. Again, the creation of the image
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  Speaker 2: of the conceptual author was Robert Flood, and he was
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  Speaker 2: from fifteen seventy four to sixteen thirty seven, and he
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  Speaker 2: was an English Paracelsian physician who sketched the diagram while
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  Speaker 2: writing the microcosm half of his encyclopedia Encyclopedia Opus, and
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  Speaker 2: that was around the sixteen seventeenth to sixteen twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: The copper engraving again Matthias Marion the Elder. He's from
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  Speaker 2: fifteen ninety three to sixteen fifty. He was a resident
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  Speaker 2: artist for the Dobry publishing house in Oppenheim or Frankfurt.
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  Speaker 2: He translated Flood's pen and ink scheme into the finished
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  Speaker 2: plate in sixteen eighteen to sixteen nineteen, and signing several
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  Speaker 2: of the surrounding figures. The plate rolled off the press
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  Speaker 2: in the third fiscal issue late of sixteen nineteen. No
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  Speaker 2: earlier printed version is known, so this impression basically goes
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  Speaker 2: back to then. What the engraving shows a left profile
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  Speaker 2: cut away ahead is packed. Sorry, let out. Label on
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  Speaker 2: the plate is Census Communists. Let me see what it
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  Speaker 2: looks like right now. Let's see if I can find that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave it here again. People want to
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  Speaker 2: see more, go check out the episode. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: keep coming back to this, but I'll just leave this soup. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Census Communists and floods meeting is convergence point of the
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  Speaker 2: five outward senses, and the modern anatomical analog is the
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  Speaker 2: junction of the optic and chasm and the thalamie the
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  Speaker 2: image image genatio storage house of raw images, and that
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  Speaker 2: is of the like kind of the ocu occipital and
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  Speaker 2: temporal lobes, the cacciatio and ratio the discursive reason that
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  Speaker 2: is the frontal lobes, the memorial long term treasury of forms.
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  Speaker 2: In the modern atomical analog to that would be the posterio,
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  Speaker 2: ventricle and the cerebellum. The mens in the intellexis floods
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  Speaker 2: meeting the supersense that turns upward toward God, and the
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  Speaker 2: modern anatomical analog would the be the the pineal region
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  Speaker 2: pierced by array on the print, arrows rise from from
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  Speaker 2: ear I nose tongue skin along optic tracks to the census.
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  Speaker 2: Communists then step upward through each faculty until they pierced
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  Speaker 2: the cranial vault and enter a blazing sun labeled juice.
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  Speaker 2: The entire layout is a hermetic map of how corporal
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  Speaker 2: site leads step by step to illumination of the soul,
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  Speaker 2: and how Flood expected it to be used around the
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  Speaker 2: seventeenth century. A meditative diagram. The reader was supposed to
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  Speaker 2: gaze at each circle, where reciting short Latin prayers printed
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  Speaker 2: on the facing page. Flood says this fixes the idea
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  Speaker 2: and memory and trains the senses to obey reason. There
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  Speaker 2: was a oh God, anemodic device, m N E M
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  Speaker 2: O N I C device. We're gonna fuck that up.
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  Speaker 2: By walking the eye from sense to memory, students could
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  Speaker 2: recall complex change of medical or astrological correspondences, and there
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  Speaker 2: was Rosicrucian proof plate and correspondence. Flood called it ocula
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  Speaker 2: demonstration against purely mechanical anatomy, arguing that true medicine must
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  Speaker 2: treat the spirit as well as flesh. I think you think,
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  Speaker 2: uh kind of like leave it there. I think that
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  Speaker 2: was enough. I did have a little bit more. But youah,
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  Speaker 2: headed there, you're unfortunately you immuted this or I keep
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  Speaker 2: doing that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that mnemonic device thing really hit me. So he's memorizing,
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  Speaker 1: he's creating a memory palace with all of the astrological
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  Speaker 1: signs and everything that they do. That's kind of cool.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like that's they just put it right out
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  Speaker 1: in front of you. That's a memory palace and demonic device.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a physical space that you're returning to
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  Speaker 1: over and over again, defined and this knowledge right, and
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  Speaker 1: so it's it's got its own geography. It's shaping the
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  Speaker 1: mind of these people at the very beginning part of
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  Speaker 1: the you know, enlightenment. They're using this mnemonic device and
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  Speaker 1: they are accessing higher realms.
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  Speaker 2: I think if you look into other like even other
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  Speaker 2: practices or maybe even certain older traditions, you might see
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  Speaker 2: other ways that people kind of do that or have
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  Speaker 2: their own way of doing it, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I know in agent Greece they used the mnemonic devices
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  Speaker 1: alongside the gods and all the mythology to have this
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  Speaker 1: vast array of other associations and networks that had number
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  Speaker 1: in it too. Yes, this is how you train the mind.
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  Speaker 1: The higher levels of consciousness.
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  Speaker 2: Very interesting stuff, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, That's
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  Speaker 2: why I was like, I always thought that this was
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  Speaker 2: it probably should have covered it more too in the
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  Speaker 2: show that I did. But I think, you know, very deep,
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  Speaker 2: and I think if you really kind of even get
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  Speaker 2: half of an idea, all right, half a clue of
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  Speaker 2: what's going on in here, you should realize these people
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  Speaker 2: are onto something way father than like what the fuck
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing talked about by any occultists out there. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's some pretty deep shit. So and I actually think
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  Speaker 2: like they might actually you know this sometimes, I think
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  Speaker 2: some of the oldest stuff, if we actually really understood
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  Speaker 2: how to read it, it's a little bit more direct
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  Speaker 2: forward and sometimes maybe not always as coded, which is
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think sometimes you'll get a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more of an actual real understanding of what these people
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  Speaker 2: are trying to say with this, with this diagram right now,
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  Speaker 2: more than what you would get out of some other
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  Speaker 2: like piece of shit magicians SiGe up nowadays, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like Crowley wouldn't have been like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: somehow we would have perverted this or did some dumb
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  Speaker 2: shit to it. You know what I'm saying, well, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing how anatomically accurate it is and how relevant it
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  Speaker 1: stays today because you know, all of the new aged
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  Speaker 1: people are talking about the pineal gland and how it's
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  Speaker 1: connected to source and all the rest of this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So he definitely is using his experience coming up with
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  Speaker 1: cadavers and is whatever this mental process is of identifying
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  Speaker 1: what everything is doing inside the brain is pretty damn accurate.
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  Speaker 1: Where is he getting that information from? They can't do
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  Speaker 1: anything with like microscopes or you know, electrical current. Oh
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  Speaker 1: this is way before that.
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  Speaker 2: See that was even another thing that I was even
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  Speaker 2: trying to like why why I even covered flood and
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  Speaker 2: there's other people and I've even looked like up books
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  Speaker 2: that I might cover that. It's just like yo, in
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  Speaker 2: the fifteen hundreds or maybe even earlier, they're drawing and
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  Speaker 2: showing you like the brain, the eyes, the nervous system.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, what the fuck was going on? Like how
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  Speaker 2: did they know all this back then? If we want
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  Speaker 2: to go by WHOA, the technology we supposedly had or
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  Speaker 2: the understanding that we supposedly had back then, you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it's truthful, but somehow that there was people who
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  Speaker 2: understood shit. That is just I don't know. To me,
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  Speaker 2: like what you were saying, this seems like these people
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  Speaker 2: knew more then that I think we understand them.
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  Speaker 1: They knew way more than they were supposed to. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it has something to do with that conversation
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  Speaker 1: they're having with the gods. That's what they're packing their
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  Speaker 1: memory with.
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  Speaker 2: I could agree with that very well.
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  Speaker 1: It seems really simplistic, but if you think about it,
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  Speaker 1: you're shaping the rest of the map by what you
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  Speaker 1: put into and use to associate with other things and
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  Speaker 1: mnemonic devices. Have you ever heard what is it called?
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  Speaker 1: I got this email pulled up and I was having
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  Speaker 1: major deja vu. But it's crazy, dude.
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  Speaker 2: It happens to the best, Melissa.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like I've read it before, but I know
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember any of the details that are coming out.
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  Speaker 1: It's that feeling. But anyways, I wanted to pull something up.
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  Speaker 1: There's a certain memory technique where you're using these images
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  Speaker 1: in a row, and it's kind of like a nemonic device.
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  Speaker 1: It's called a memory palace. It's also called other things too.
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  Speaker 2: I think I've heard of this from maybe you brought
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  Speaker 2: this up before right, So.
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  Speaker 1: To me, this sounds like they call it the method
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  Speaker 1: of Loki. It's a mnemonic device that uses spatial visualization
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  Speaker 1: to enhance memory retention and recall. So as they're taking
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  Speaker 1: in information, it goes through the process of being related
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  Speaker 1: to one of the different zodiac signs, and they're finding
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  Speaker 1: it away in all of these different associative boxes so
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  Speaker 1: that their memory can pull it up faster when they
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  Speaker 1: need to get access to it because they've got all
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  Speaker 1: of the other spatial recognition features that they use to
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  Speaker 1: pull up these memories. Do you get kind of what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying? Yeah, well I can do an experiment with it,
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  Speaker 1: probably at different time, but like you can walk somebody
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  Speaker 1: through a scenario and point out to them different features
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  Speaker 1: and then start to put objects and ideas relating to
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  Speaker 1: those features, and then as you walk with your mind
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  Speaker 1: through the alleyway, you're actually picking up the memories that
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  Speaker 1: you've associated with those different objects. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why my brain goes to that shit first,
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  Speaker 2: but you see.
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  Speaker 1: The magical potential because every object in your mind is
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  Speaker 1: actually fitting together on those subconscious associated levels. So if
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  Speaker 1: you make an association over and over again, that the
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  Speaker 1: other person's not picking up on. That's called NLP.
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  Speaker 2: That that is a good point.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that memory palace technique is really vital
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  Speaker 1: to understand to understand the rest of the fields of magic.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I think memory is really important.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think memories the first magic, right. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: think about what it means to be able to perfectly
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  Speaker 1: recall something that somebody else just completely forgets. That puts
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  Speaker 1: you ahead in everything once you have a perfect memory,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, especially back then when everything needed to be memorized.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: It's how they counted too. All the different bones in
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  Speaker 1: your fingers are associated with numbers and how to do
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  Speaker 1: it using your fingers like an abacus. Right, They were
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  Speaker 1: doing complex math equations just using a hand, and how
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  Speaker 1: they tap the different portions. We don't learn math like that,
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  Speaker 1: no wonder we suck at it. You don't have the
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  Speaker 1: physical associations that come along with sensory perceptions. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: we don't like math because it has no physical associations
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  Speaker 1: to our bodies or anything. It's all concepts, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing grounding about it anyways, So let me start
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  Speaker 1: the Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they would have thrown some jamatriy in school would
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  Speaker 2: have made things interesting. Oh, like numerical associations with math.
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  Speaker 1: That's what the Greeks were doing, isobsyphy. That's why they
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  Speaker 1: were smart. It's in there. Okay, so this is coming
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  Speaker 1: from Winter York. She doesn't say anything about it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh shit, Okay, who that is? Tell me you do yea?
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  Speaker 1: Do you recognize this or not? Because I stread to
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: read it into it and I'm like, oh my god,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've read this before, but I don't
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: remember any of the details. It's crazy.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Oh no, if I remember correctly, Actually, she might be
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: really really good for emails to the truth.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah. I wanted to write about my experience in
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the Superstition Mountains of Arizona. I will try to keep
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: this as short as possible. So my interest in the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Superstitions began before I ever thought there was a chance
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I would be moving from New Hampshire to the desert.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I watched on the Paranormal Files on YouTube and here
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: and there about this knowledge of history, geology and strange
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: happenings out there. The Superstitions start east of Phoenix in
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the Apache Junction area. From what I remember, is a
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: volcano that erupted and fell in on itself millions of
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: years ago. Now. I have always had strange symbolic dreams
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: since I was a child. These dreams to be tend
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to be more real than my waking life, and if
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I pay attention to them, very deep and profound information
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: comes through. My first trip out there helped put some
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: of these dreams and visions together. I hiked with a
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: friend from work that has lived in Phoenix her whole life,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and this was her first hike. I was all excited
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: because I heard so much about this mountain range that
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get the feel for it. So many
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: absolutely terrifying stories about people going missing, people found it
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: internally exploded for no reason, reptilians in caves, UFOs, military
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: helicopters and underground tunnels, people found without heads, portals, strange
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: black mists appearing, skinwalkers, little people, gold fever, madness, shadow beings,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: you know, all the scary things. Such a responsible hike
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: for me, a mother of a four year old, to
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: be doing. But the mountain Range was too tantalizing not
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: to go, so off we went. With all the novice
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: desert hiker precautions we could think of I was going
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: to hike Massacred Grounds, but to my boss at work
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: told us to hike the Peralta trail. He was right.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: As I was driving and getting my first glimpse of
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: this mountain range, it had the look of a looming
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: walled fortress and the energy felt different. I'm pretty sure
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: it wasn't just from knowing the stories, as I have
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: lived a few miles from Stardust Ranch. If you're familiar
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: with that, oh good references. That place had some terrifying
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: stories as well. I went there fully expecting negative energy,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: only to have this place my go to place when
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I need to get away in nature. So the Stardust Ranch,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the area that I expected to be terrifying, gave me
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: a tinkling light feeling in my chest. The superstitions it
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: had felt like a heavy pressure on my chest. And
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: this sounds strange, and I've only experienced this in these
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: strange places out here. Something in my normal consciousness shifts,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: like my thinking patterns are off. In this case, my
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: inner dialogue became more focused than alert. Fun times was over.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It felt like this felt intense and maybe my brain
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: was dumping adrenaline. Why nothing was happening so we turned
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: onto this long dirt road to the Peralta Trail trail
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: head and was greeted immediately by a large coyote. Now
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I'm either more tuned into the nature side of spirituality
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: or I listened to too many esoteric podcasts, but my
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: brain automatically thought, well, there's the trickster. We got to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the parking area, but I couldn't stop staring at the rocks.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: The rock formations had my attention and I had no
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: idea why. I don't know geology. Well, I was fixated
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: on them. So we went to the start of the
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: trail and it was manned by two park rangers, making
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: sure we all estimated the time we are to return
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: phone number of myself at an emergency tack number. The
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: whole bit. I asked why, and he straight out said
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: that too many people go missing or need to be rescued.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I thought we were just doing some light hiking, but
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: apparently not. He then pointed out some big horn sheep
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: up the cliff. I figured I had the feeling I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: was being watched. I'll pit it on them. It was
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: already weirded out by this place. After hiking for a bit,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I felt like every fiber of my being was tuned
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: into every plant, rock, or possible danger around me. Also,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the place was beautiful, and at one point the trail
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: wasn't marked well, and I had the feeling that the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: trail went up a rocky area to the right. But
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: then just a couple came up behind us, and the
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: man confidently told his wife that the trail went straight off,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: and off they went. I was confident my intuition was
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: right and went the other way, which was correct. I
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: was looking down at these fools bushwhacking through scrubbrush on
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: a popular trail right into a wash, and then I
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: yelled down to them the trail was up here. But
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: now I know that why some of the people go
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: missing out here, stupidity. We harmed higher, and I was
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: looking up at the hoodoos on top of the cliff
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and the way the sun was hitting them. They really
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: looked like what the natives say about the land, that
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: giants were turned into rocks of here during a great flood.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: The play of light and shadow makes them appear to
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: have faces, and it is a little bit strange. At
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: about a mile or so, we stopped the side of
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: a rock had a fresh wet blood all over it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: We saw no injured people or animals, and it was
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: quite a bit of blood coyote in prey mountain lyon somewhere.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: It was odd, but instead of being concerned about the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: possible immediate threat, I kept staring at it dripping down,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and the phrase the minerals are in the blood kept
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: repeating itself over and over in my head. We heard
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: what sounded like people coming up the trail, so we
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: moved to the side and let them pass. But I
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: noticed one thing. The acoustics here were strange off. I
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: know acoustics and sound can affect people. I just know
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: that my mind was not normal here. I felt so strange,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: even stranger that about eight people and their dogs passed
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the fresh blood and nobody saw it. Talk about lack
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: of situational awareness. Eventually we got to my first sight
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: of Weaver's needle. We could have gone further, but at
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: this point I had had enough, some sort of mental overload.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: It seemed like we looked at this rock formation from
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a distance for a bit, and suddenly, in my mind's eye,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the Lover's tarot card overlaid on Weaver's needle. There was
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: a sudden flash and from how I interpret the cards,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm a complete novice, my mind went the lost
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Dutchman's goal is supposed to be in the direction of
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: the shadow of the weaver's needle at a certain time
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: of day, and possibly hundreds of people died for this gold, murdered,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: betrayed for this gold. Did you want to say something? No, oh,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I thought I heard you murdered betrayed for this gold.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: There was a terribly bloody history for physical gold out here.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: As I'm staring, I'm seeing the lover's card and the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Devil's card, the devil card in this simple rock formation.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: It sounded so stupid, But the lovers and the devil
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: card aren't they really closely related?
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is interesting like you are seeing the
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: couple again. I mean you will, yeh, I can see
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: a correlation with that.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Actually it sounds stupid, but this was so profound at
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: this moment. Well, I mean, death and slave, or love
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and slavery kind of go hand in hand. We turned
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: around with the idea of getting some food after and
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: getting back to the car, but I started feeling overemotional
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: as I walked back walk back. When I got home,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I still felt off, and it kept getting worse. It
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: was fine going out there, but I felt so empty
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: after deep emptiness, like a feeling of nothingness. Could this
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: place represent avoid and occultism? No place e ever hit
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: me like this. After a few days, I was fulding
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: laundry when just like a flash, all this information jumped
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: into my head. I frantically grabbed my phone and found
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the symbol for the three alchemical principles of mercury, sulfur,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: and salt. I looked those up. If those mountains contain mercury,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: they do sulfur given that it's an ancient volcano, yes,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and the salt river runs alongside of it. There is
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: also a light depicted in this alchemical symbol, and I'm
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: wondering if that's phosphorus. They mind back gutto out there
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: at some time. And the only reason I put together
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: put that together was a dream I had multiple times
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: being in a marsh and coming up to the edge
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: and seeing a giant ancient sea creature in the marsh,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and then a large black mountain with fire coming out
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: at the top of the heavens and a large bat
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: winged creature flying next to it. I didn't know any
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: esoteric stuff at the time. But these symbols seem to
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: now represent Tiamatt and Lucifer, but primarily the symbology for
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: alchemy mountains are very triangle. Some feedback would be great.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Those do sound like our chemical symbols. But what's so
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the bat would represent Lucifer, the dragon.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe the devil card again because he does things.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Tiamatt would be the dragon and that has to do
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: with water, right, And uh, let's see one thing.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: One thing I do want to mention is real quick
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: with the devil card and how we mentioned the devil
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: and the Lover's card. The Lover's card does connect on
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: the Tree of Life sat into the sun, and then
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the devil card does connect mercury to the sun. So
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: there is some sort of like relationship there because it's
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the sun isn't part of that connection, right, But you
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: don't understand with that, and even mercury is coming off.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I just found it interesting how you mentioned mercury in
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: this right, But is.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: It an interesting The Flying Dutchman's treasure is at the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: bottom of Cleopatra's needle, with the sun shining down on
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the shadow of it, pointing to where the treasure is
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: possibly right gold or the Philosopher's stone, because you got
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: all the symbols right there pointing this is the philosophical goal.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe we need to go out there during summer solstice
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and I don't know, put some sort of collection thing
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: down and actually tried to steal something out there. Maybe
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: use a giant fucking magnifying glass, use that for a
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: heat source. Oh fuck, use the sun itself, man, that'll
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: be awesome.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: There a certain code in the sun at the time
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: that will work, right, isn't the I mean the Sun's
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: always emitting a different frequency at different times.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Absolutely high nude on the summer solstice. You get the
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Philosopher's stone out there at the needle. Well, no, high
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: nude couldn't work because then it would be straight up
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: and down right.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I was over a mountain pilot around that time, I
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: think already right around noon or two. I think by
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: then I can't remember, but during the day it was
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: there at some point summer. So it's interesting right.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: There in the morning, that's such a sacred time and
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: hardly anybody celebrates it. I don't get like you get
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: up at dawn on the summer solstice, because that's the
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: day that you're getting the maximum amount of sunlight possible.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: These people don't even worship the sun anymore. What's wrong
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: with them? Yeah, she goes. I'll note that this mountain
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: range still sits at thirty three degrees north at one
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: hundred and eleven degrees west. The indigenous people believe that
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: this was the abode of the thunder god and it
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: was his gold. And also this place contained a gateway
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: to the underworld. Circle Stone is a little research area
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: out here because it is difficult to get to, but
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: it is aligned to Polaris. Many of the desert creatures
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: out here are symbolic spiders, scorpions, coyotes, horns of the
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: big horned sheep. Many tribes live here in these mountains,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: but the Aztecs were rumored to have made it up
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: this far and also lived in them. I have second
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: experience here, but I'll save that for another time. I've
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: spoken to many locals and they won't set foot in
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: those mountains. That's what they call it on the Superstition Mountains.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: We see also the portals rumored to be here. People
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: use obsidian for black mirrors, project tearstones.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: That's what they suggest. Staff for even scrying too. That's
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: what I've you know, that's what I've always read or
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: was even you know, suggested with people that I knew
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: that was in a magical community. It was absidian polished
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: obsity in like mirror. Well you could do the ghettoway.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Oh oh god, I think that's how I did it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Like you had the blake. You could take like a
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: glass frame and I think you can spray paint the
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: back of one of them. Yeah. I did some shit
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: like that. Yeah. I ended up making it and I
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I gave it to it. Doing it
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: to the ot O, I was like, oh you want this.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not fucking using this. I don't know. Yeah, no,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: it's just I was just like, I don't know, I'd
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: rather get the obsidian. That's how fucking silly I was,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: you know, which I did have a big obsidian well
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: not that big obsidian sphere, and a few other pieces,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: but I never never, still never got into scrying, actually,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: at least not that I noticed. Maybe I did and
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: didn't realize. I don't know.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Well, when you use a black mirror in addition to
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: a crystal ball, you can get some interesting results.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Oh no, no this, I mean just if you start,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: like I guess, even getting at the idea of what
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: you're even doing. I don't know. I think this is
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: probably more seriousness with scrying that people would normally think.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're fucking looking back into your rivals in
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: a sense, and the reflection for a while. I mean,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: you know, your brain in your eyes can stuck. I
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: don't know, creating movies for you, who the fuck knows.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: It's interesting you can do to mess with your focus too,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: to where going focus you actually start to.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: See yes, yes, yes, yes, yes that I exactly know
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: what you're talking about. And then when you start doing
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: shit like that, you almost thought, like making your own
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: fucking things, I know exactly.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, so she says about a mile or so, I stopped.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Oh nope, never mind, I'm way down. We're almost done people.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: This is a good one though, right. That's like I
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: had a feel like because I was like, yo, if
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I remember quickly. She used to hit me up with
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: some crazy stories and it's just like sometimes unfortunately it's
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: just like I can't even whatever, and I was like,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: this would be perfect for her. Actually, so so winter,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: if you're still if you're still still listening obviously what
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: you are definitely send in more stories because you've got
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: plenty of them.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, So we stopped at Apache. Tears are a
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: type of obsidian from lava Rock. This place has a
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: ton of these stones. In fact, you can hype to
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: a cave near here to mind them that has a
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: uh Samarian writing left from the cave scene from Fallen
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Angels in the movie The Prophecy, which was filmed by
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the Superstitions, which coincides with the myth from the tribes
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: here that star people came down to teach them to
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: grow corn at other things. The second time I hiked
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Massacre Grounds and it wasn't as pretty. It was an
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: absolute slog and it was miserable. This time, however, I
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: sat on a rock to look at the view, and
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: it sounded like a masculine voice spoke a word into
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: my right ear in another language. I literally felt the
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: vibration from it. For some strange reason, it didn't freak
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: me out, but shortly up the trail I felt agitated
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: and wanted to turn around. That happens a lot with
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: that ranch. What was that.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Skinwalker Ranch?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Stars Kinker Ranch. Yeah, they had these massive voices, you know,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: talking in your ear out at Skinbalker Ranch, seemingly coming
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: from the sky in a different language.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: It was I on the show with you when I
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: told you how somebody that I was at the summer
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: with uh kind of blew up on it. Well blew
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: up that blew up on but like kind of told
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: on one of those ranches around in that area how
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: they're faked. Did they tell you about that?
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: No?
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Shit, Yeah, when we're when we were at Mount Pilot
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: after the summer was over, there was a few people
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: from the Cosmic Summit that was there and they were
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: walking with us, and one of them, you know, has
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: been on TV and said that he was approached to
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: go to Blind Froud Ranch. And now I've heard of
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: that one. I've even seen it on TV in some form.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I forgot what fucking channel hosted it. And they said
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: that when they read everything said, no way, like why scripted?
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: It's not real. There's no way I could put my
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: name on that. I was like, Yo, you just fucking okay,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Like you're just confirmed. Like when I think about half
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: of those shows.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, I think, uh, it's an industry now. I mean, look,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: if I could say, some obscure ranch, someplace you'll never
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: go to is haunted. A lot of people will believe me,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: So why not.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're doing using edited uh footage, you fucking make.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Anything right, Haunted ranches are in.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, easy, that would be. I mean, it's just that
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: just sounds like can take. But it's just like for
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: ocultist or magicians. You know how much easier it is
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: to probably fake silly shit than to actually try to
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: teach people real stuff. Just keeping it real me and
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: you could beat up and film some shit and people like,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: oh my god, they're together and any way, we can
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: make the most absurd fucking fake shit overlay with fake
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: fucking audio, do all sorts, fake shade, and people are,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: oh my god, that was fucking amazing And it was
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: totally fucking fake. Right, that shit goes on. That shit
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: goes on.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: A lot of people do that, especially on Instagram. They
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: just start faking it. I guess they make it. I
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: observed this while there was still a mile ago. Oh no,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: there we go, let me see. There was still a
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: mile to go to the falls. Almost everyone was turning
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: back at the same place. I observed this while eating
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: my snack very odd at this. After this hike, my
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: friend started having reoccurring nightmares about this cave area off
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the trail we found. Keeps dreaming about this red man
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: with horns that goes straight in back front of this cave.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: It's really haunting them. I'm glad that it didn't happen
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: to me. However, I'm hoping to find other people out
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: there that went further. Want to further explore this place.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: It's late here, and I hope this was some interesting
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: information for you and not too long. That was really good.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Oh that's great. Perfect.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Did you ever do a show on King Kill thirty three?
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Oh? I don't think so.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: That was like one of the first uh, I guess
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: conspiracies about the JFK assassination from this schizo guy who
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: was talking about how it was all the big Freebason
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: ritual and he talks about the Superstition Mountains on the
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: thirty third degree parallel.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, No, I don't know if I've actually heard it,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: or if I have, I've forgot about it. No, it doesn't.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: It doesn't. The name doesn't ring a bell, So I'm
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: not going to try to like fake it and be like,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: oh I've heard that or just for good.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a pretty interesting book, but I
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: think the author was made up, and uh, you know,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the whole idea behind this fictional character writing about this
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Masonic death ritual which lines up with all these different
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: lay lines and everything else having to do with Masonic rituals.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I forgot the name of him though, but yeah it
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: was Ah. That was like the height of the paranoia
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: of the sixties that came out King Kill thirty three
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: and a bunch of Discordians got a hold of it
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and spread it around everywhere.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Hmm, it would be something interesting to look. I don't
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: know for some reason. Yeah, I don't know. Uh, I
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: don't know if I ever remember hearing that. I have
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: to put that on like YouTube one night. I'm like
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: doing all this shit and getting stoned editing and showing minors.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna have a long slog ahead of you.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We didn't even get into the Book of Maccabees.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: That's where they get the holiday Hanakah from. Yeah, like
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: he never read the Book of Maccabees because it's not
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: in the Bible anymore. Anyways, people will find out what
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: we're talking about.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: In a few weeks and a few weekends and a
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: few weekends, you'll catch it on the audio on the podcast.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: You got it all right? Well, thank you everybody for
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: showing up and h you send to bed smil was
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: a pretty good one.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, thank you went there.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Close your eyes, look into the darkness, find the blazing star.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Focus on it. It will become the eclipse. Don't fear
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: what the show will be doing.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: You