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DIDDY TRIAL SCOREBOARD: WINNERS V. LOSERS, STARS V. SCARS · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, State versus Sean Combs, the
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  Speaker 1: Diddy Trial, Scoreboard, Winners versus Losers, Stars, the Scars. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: It's somehow he pulls out a not guilty verdict.
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  Speaker 3: He is going to be hell on wills.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like when you say if he's found not guilty,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be hell on wheels because I'm totally
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  Speaker 1: getting my car car bomb like kid Cody.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no coming back from the EDBD, Diddy and
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  Speaker 3: the DDY one. I've gotten them all here. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna come after me. Straight out to TISA.
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  Speaker 1: Tails, joining us at the Monahan Federal Courthouse where Seawan
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  Speaker 1: Combs is being tried on a multi count federal indictment.
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  Speaker 1: TISA the star of TISA Tales on YouTube Tisa What
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  Speaker 1: is the.
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  Speaker 2: Latest, Nancy and one of the most shocking turn of
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  Speaker 2: events canceled today? Why you might ask a third juror
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  Speaker 2: mysteriously came down with vertigo and had to turn around again.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing makes sense this to Sean Ditty's case, and the
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  Speaker 2: government is this close to resting their case, Brendan Pohl
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  Speaker 2: is this close to testifying and putting the final screws
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  Speaker 2: in on Didty's whole wikle operation. And also people are
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  Speaker 2: saying they're gonna He's gonna pull KK into the fray.
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  Speaker 3: Two.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Ditty's Jeffrey Epstein will have the same Maxwell name
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  Speaker 2: Christina Korum.
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  Speaker 3: But why is this so odd?
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  Speaker 2: Because first of all, yes, I thought the same thing
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  Speaker 2: you did. Where was Didty when this happened?
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  Speaker 5: That's right, he's locked up.
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  Speaker 2: In the MDC. However, you couldn't write this.
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  Speaker 3: Diddy's team, in an astonishing.
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  Speaker 2: Move, the judge acts, does anybody have any objection to
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  Speaker 2: the juror coming back on Friday? The prosecution, no objection,
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  Speaker 2: your honor Diddy. Well, Yana, we need to talk to
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  Speaker 2: our client. We all said, what do you need to
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  Speaker 2: talk about? The juror has assured the judge that he
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  Speaker 2: will be fine from his vertigal and be back Friday morning.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Diddy's team then confirmed and said they wanted a sidebar
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  Speaker 2: because they have further questions about medical. Now why is
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  Speaker 2: this so important? Well, think about it. Diddy has been
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  Speaker 2: trying his best to make a connection with jurors. He
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  Speaker 2: wanted during number six to stay, he wants during number
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  Speaker 2: seven out. I think it's fair to assume that he
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  Speaker 2: does not have that special connection with During number seven. However,
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  Speaker 2: if they can get this third juror out on medical grounds,
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  Speaker 2: because it's almost a home strategy, they get sick again,
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  Speaker 2: who knows then this alternate and whoever it is did
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  Speaker 2: he must also think he has a special connection with
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  Speaker 2: He can pull that alternate down and he thinks he
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  Speaker 2: can increase his chances, if not for a not guilty verdict,
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  Speaker 2: because let's be rolled, that's not happening, but pull it
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  Speaker 2: in so that he can actually get this mistrial that
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  Speaker 2: he has been begging and waiting, or at the very
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  Speaker 2: least have better grounds for an appeal. You guys, Judge
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  Speaker 2: didn't call it tell us much. So why is this
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  Speaker 2: show shocking? Well, for one, Judge Aaron has yet to
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  Speaker 2: tell us what's going on with during number seven.
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  Speaker 3: Does he think just because we have a sick.
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  Speaker 2: Day and again, I'll take a six day snow day
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  Speaker 2: anyway I can get it that we do not have questions? Again,
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  Speaker 2: Judge Aaron has been exceedingly fair. He's expected to rule
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  Speaker 2: on during number seven on Friday. That's if this mysterious
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  Speaker 2: sick juror actually comes in again. Diddy has made it
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  Speaker 2: very clear who he thinks he has a special connection with,
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  Speaker 2: and today he put the wills in motion to try
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  Speaker 2: to find some medical ground to strike this juror out
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  Speaker 2: and to pull this alternate that Diddy has his eyeset
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  Speaker 2: on again. A lot of court intrigue, a lot going on.
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  Speaker 2: We hope the dur is okay, but for right now
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  Speaker 2: we are waiting and bait it breath for what the
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  Speaker 2: judge decides on during number seven and if Diddy's team
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  Speaker 2: was able to find a medical excuse to dismiss this
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  Speaker 2: third juror and pull in that alternate that Diddy has
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  Speaker 2: been making googly eyes at.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us now outside the Monahan Federal Courthouse, Lauren Colin,
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter and start of Pop Crime TV on YouTube.
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  Speaker 3: Lauren, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Witness after witness, excruciating detail after excruciating detail, multiple.
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  Speaker 3: Motions for miss trial by the defense. What do you
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  Speaker 3: make of it?
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  Speaker 5: Yes? I think I speak for everyone here.
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  Speaker 6: We are very relieved to be moving on and having
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  Speaker 6: the defense start their case.
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  Speaker 5: In chief.
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  Speaker 6: I think a lot of people are anxious for the
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  Speaker 6: witness list as well. We've already learned of a couple witnesses,
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  Speaker 6: and I believe the first witness will be a bad
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  Speaker 6: Boy employee who is in charge of HR. The government
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  Speaker 6: has inferred numerous times that the bad Boy HR department
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  Speaker 6: wasn't necessarily quote unquote real, that they just did more
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  Speaker 6: of Sean Colmes's bidding. So I guess we'll wait and
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  Speaker 6: see when this person takes the stand and Nancy. There
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  Speaker 6: seems to be a lot going on behind the scenes
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  Speaker 6: as well. The judge has been not super happy with
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  Speaker 6: the defense and the government as information has seemed.
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  Speaker 5: To be leaked to the press. I mean, it's been
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  Speaker 5: never a dull moment here.
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  Speaker 3: You know, trials are like that.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me Philip Dubay, high profile lawyer out of LA's
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  Speaker 1: tried a lot of cases. Dubay, every trial is like
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  Speaker 1: a very unique animal. It reminds me of Harry Potter
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  Speaker 1: toward the end, where each person was going to do
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  Speaker 1: battle with a dragon, and you basically reach into a
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  Speaker 1: bag and you pull out a miniature live dragon. You
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  Speaker 1: don't know which one you're going to get, and they're
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  Speaker 1: all lethal and deadly.
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  Speaker 3: You never know which way a trial is going to go.
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  Speaker 3: You really don't know what the witness is going to say.
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  Speaker 1: Who could have predicted a leak, who could have predicted
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  Speaker 1: all the motions from mistrial? Who could have predicted Sean
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  Speaker 1: Combs getting reprimand and threatened to be thrown out of
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  Speaker 1: the courtroom, yourrs getting thrown off.
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  Speaker 3: Every case is like this.
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  Speaker 1: There's no predictability when you go to trial.
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  Speaker 7: Exactly, and frankly, the defense is not even predictable. I
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  Speaker 7: cannot tell you, Nancy, how many times in my career
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  Speaker 7: why I've had to develop a defense mid trial, because
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  Speaker 7: a lot of times the strategy is based on how
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  Speaker 7: the evidence is presented and how it unfolds against the client.
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  Speaker 7: So you have door number one, door number two, and
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  Speaker 7: door number three ready to go depending on how everything
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  Speaker 7: is presented, and even then you can still lose, or
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  Speaker 7: the jury may throw you a bone and find reasonable doubt.
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  Speaker 1: I think what you meant to say, Philip Dubay is
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  Speaker 1: that evidence starts pouring from the witness stand during the
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  Speaker 1: state's case and you look at your client like that
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  Speaker 1: is nothing like what you told me really happened, and
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  Speaker 1: so you have to basically step back and do a
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  Speaker 1: hail Mary.
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  Speaker 3: You have to change your trial strategy.
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  Speaker 1: And I've seen the defense changing their trial strategy during
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  Speaker 1: this case. Remember when Brian Steele started cross examining one
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  Speaker 1: of the alleged victims in.
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  Speaker 3: A very genial manner.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was Mia, and Sean Combs was twisting
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  Speaker 1: and turning in his seat, gnashing his teeth and twisting
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  Speaker 1: his tail. And suddenly, after a break, Brian Steele came
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  Speaker 1: at the witness like a steamroller, just tearing her to shreds.
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  Speaker 1: So the trial strategy had to change.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but I got to tell you got to be
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  Speaker 7: very careful because you don't want to turn every witness
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  Speaker 7: into a tripwire. You turned that courtroom into an ultimate landmine,
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  Speaker 7: and you don't want to upset the jury. The practical
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  Speaker 7: reality of it is, Nancy, that defense council has all
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  Speaker 7: discovery ahead of trial. They know exactly what all the
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  Speaker 7: witness statements are, what they intend to say. What's really
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  Speaker 7: no surprise. The real question is are the witnesses going
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  Speaker 7: to stick to that discovery script? And oftentimes they say
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  Speaker 7: stuff that was not memorialized in the narratives prepared by
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  Speaker 7: the cops. So you have to kind of learn to
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  Speaker 7: quickly pivot, and depending on what they say and how
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  Speaker 7: quickly you pivot, you might have to change your strategy
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  Speaker 7: or overall tactic and maybe even put the client on
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  Speaker 7: the stand to rebut it all.
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  Speaker 3: Lauren Colin joining us at the on hand Federal Courthouse.
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  Speaker 1: Lauren Colin a rep from the h R Department of
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  Speaker 1: Bad Boy Productions.
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  Speaker 3: Correct, correct, Nancy, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that I would Philip Dubay start my
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  Speaker 1: case off. You know, normally you try to start with
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  Speaker 1: a bam right, and then at the end you want
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  Speaker 1: to start hard and finish hard.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody, Philip Dubay hates h R.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is there anybody on the panel that likes
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  Speaker 1: HR human Resources? When you see the Resources lady coming
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  Speaker 1: down the hall, everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Goes, oh no, who did what wrong?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 3: Somebody did so?
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  Speaker 4: Do Bay?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Calling HR as a star witness is
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  Speaker 3: that wise? And plus an.
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  Speaker 1: HR witness from Bad Boy Records who's been authorizing the
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  Speaker 1: let's see extortion payment, Correct me if I'm wrong. Lauren
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  Speaker 1: Conlin in City Summer the extortion payment to Cassie Ventura's
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  Speaker 1: mother where they want a twenty grand and the quid
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  Speaker 1: pro quo was not leaking orgy videos, freak off videos
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  Speaker 1: of their daughter who was just starting in her music career.
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  Speaker 1: That was through bad Boy records, all the casts that
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  Speaker 1: flowed through them, that the sex workers were paid with
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  Speaker 1: the buying the drugs, buy bad Boy employees. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you're putting up a bad boy HR person that cross
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  Speaker 1: examination out. I mean, is that the way to kick
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  Speaker 1: a case off debate as one of your star witnesses.
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  Speaker 7: Of course, it is one of the best kept secrets
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  Speaker 7: about HR in every corporation, in every business throughout America
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  Speaker 7: is they're there to protect the company. They don't really
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  Speaker 7: care about employee interests. As a practical matter, they do
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  Speaker 7: damage control, risk management. They try to assess what if
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  Speaker 7: anything that's getting reported to them or what if anything
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  Speaker 7: they've observed could put the company at risk of liability.
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  Speaker 7: So they're not going to say or do anything that
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  Speaker 7: could harm the company because that's where their loyalty lives.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you're still pretending that this is a company instead
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  Speaker 1: of Sean Combe's alter ego to doctor Bethany Marshall, joining
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  Speaker 1: us renown psycho analysts out of the LA.
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  Speaker 3: Jurisdiction author of deal Breakers.
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  Speaker 1: You can see her on Peacock and find her at
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  Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Why does everybody hate HR?
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  Speaker 8: You know, Nancy, Most of my patients who come in
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  Speaker 8: with major depressive disorder or sudden psychiatric symptoms, often they've
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  Speaker 8: gotten into with their companies and HR has come in
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  Speaker 8: and confronted them. And Philip Dubay is right. HR is
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  Speaker 8: always on the side of the company. Although, as you
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  Speaker 8: pointed out, what company right? So this is basically HR
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  Speaker 8: doing pdd's bidding. But it's not a good idea. It's
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  Speaker 8: not a good look when you see HR coming down
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  Speaker 8: the hall, and also when you get in trouble with HR,
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  Speaker 8: everybody else knows about And whenever I submit insurance claims,
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  Speaker 8: my patient's first question is are they going to find
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  Speaker 8: out about this in HR? They're terrified of HR?
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  Speaker 1: And you know what's so interesting? I don't know interesting
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  Speaker 1: is the right word. Let me say sham Lynn Shaw
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  Speaker 1: joining me, founder executive director Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending
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  Speaker 1: sex trafficking and sex abuse of girls and Women's really
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  Speaker 1: the head of h R in a sex trafficking case?
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  Speaker 1: Where was HR when all of this was happening.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, HR equals hell racket exactly, Nancy, where were they when,
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  Speaker 9: in my opinion, this is nothing more of this bad
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  Speaker 9: boy worldwide Entertainment production company with their names splattered all
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  Speaker 9: over this skyscraper down the street from me here in
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  Speaker 9: New York was doing all these things to these victims,
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  Speaker 9: alleged victims and these women. Where were they to step
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  Speaker 9: in and say, hey, you know, if this was even
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  Speaker 9: a legitimate business, which I don't think it was at all,
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  Speaker 9: you can't do this, dirty diddy, because this will affect business.
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  Speaker 9: And I use that loosely business. You better stop with
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  Speaker 9: these women, You better clean up your act. Nobody did anything.
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  Speaker 9: This is such a criminal enterprise. I can clearly see it.
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  Speaker 9: It is the playbook vulnerable people, powerful people over less
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  Speaker 9: fortunate people. So this hell racket equals HR is a
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  Speaker 9: big zero. I bet you there was no office, no HR,
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  Speaker 9: no anything. He had one or two people that were
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  Speaker 9: there to protect dirty ditty and the enterprise, the criminal enterprise,
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  Speaker 9: in my opinion, So let's put the focus back on
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  Speaker 9: victims and survivors of this dirty ditty and all victims
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  Speaker 9: and survivors of sexual exploitation. Where's the HR companies for
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  Speaker 9: all of them. They do not exist. Dirty ditty done
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  Speaker 9: going down Hell. Racket No HR in that big building
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  Speaker 9: down the street.
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  Speaker 1: And they will be riding HR's tailpipe straight on the
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  Speaker 1: way to Hell. To Lauren Colin joining me outside the courthouse.
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  Speaker 1: One of the one of the final witnesses for the State,
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  Speaker 1: Special Agent Dealisa Penland. All right, now. Penland was in
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  Speaker 1: charge of a lot of documents and records, and Penland
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  Speaker 1: was used to tie it all together explain the significance
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  Speaker 1: of one of the state's last witnesses.
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  Speaker 6: What we saw, Nancy from Special Agent Penland was charts
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  Speaker 6: and graphs and records which were essentially proof of flight
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  Speaker 6: for escorts.
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  Speaker 5: We saw Jewles Theodore.
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  Speaker 6: We saw a flight for him from la to New
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  Speaker 6: York City, and then we saw a London hotel invoice
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  Speaker 6: and then text messages corresponding Cassy Ventura corresponding with Jewels Theodore.
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  Speaker 6: In addition, we also saw Clayton Howard, who was another escort,
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  Speaker 6: his flight records, his hotel records, and other correspondences between
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  Speaker 6: he and Cassie Ventura. And we also saw Sean Colmes's
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  Speaker 6: bank records and AMEX bills which were paid with these
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  Speaker 6: specific banks matching up to all of these charts and grafts,
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  Speaker 6: and it was very, very detailed. And then I think
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  Speaker 6: the biggest thing of the morning with this special Agent
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  Speaker 6: testimony was the correspondences and communications from March fifth, twenty
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  Speaker 6: sixteen to March seventh, twenty sixteen, which was the morning
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  Speaker 6: of Cassie's beating, all the way up until he finally
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  Speaker 6: got the tape from the security guard.
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  Speaker 5: So we saw all of.
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  Speaker 6: The I want to say, upwards of one hundred miss
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  Speaker 6: pauls that Sean Combs made to Cassie that day, which
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  Speaker 6: then escalated to Christina Quorum calling Cassie and then Christina
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  Speaker 6: Qorum corresponding with another assistant to try to get this
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  Speaker 6: video all the way up until Eddie Garcia was corresponding
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  Speaker 6: with Sean Colmbs, and then we saw the premiere the
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  Speaker 6: Perfect Match premiere photo of Cassi Venturo, which happened the
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  Speaker 6: very next day when she had the bruised eye and
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  Speaker 6: the busted lift, So they put all of this together
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  Speaker 6: for us. However, Tenny Geragos did point out a couple
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  Speaker 6: of things.
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  Speaker 5: That were wrong on the chart.
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  Speaker 6: She pointed out a date where Cassie Ventura wasn't actually
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  Speaker 6: in the country. She was in South Africa, and they
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  Speaker 6: had passy kind of matching.
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  Speaker 5: Up to this one hotel.
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  Speaker 6: But overall it was a very important summary witness because
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  Speaker 6: we saw all of the records that go directly with
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  Speaker 6: the indictment.
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  Speaker 10: Special Agent Lisa Penland's summary chart regarding meetings Cassie Ventura
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  Speaker 10: attended has seventy one separate entries, and Penland testified the
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  Speaker 10: chart only includes entries for meetings that have associated video footage.
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  Speaker 10: Cassie previously testified it was impossible to determine exactly how
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  Speaker 10: many freak coughs she endured, but estimated hundreds. Penland is
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  Speaker 10: set to go over a similar chart regarding Colme's meetings
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  Speaker 10: with Jane next.
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  Speaker 2: Did he stakes exhibit triple X super disgusting?
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  Speaker 3: The jury is.
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  Speaker 1: Watching you button naked or maybe he had a burke
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  Speaker 1: on the freak cough Hotel nine King Night.
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  Speaker 3: Most of us call it sex trafficking caught on video.
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  Speaker 1: So Lauren Colin the defense at the beginning, said their
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  Speaker 1: case would last weeks a month, and now they just
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  Speaker 1: drop a bomb in the courtroom, say.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's really only got to be three.
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  Speaker 1: Or four days what do you anticipate the defense has
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  Speaker 1: in store for the jury.
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  Speaker 6: Nancy, I feel like what we're gonna see is people
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  Speaker 6: from his different entities, different companies who are going to
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  Speaker 6: get on the stand and really try.
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  Speaker 5: To legitimize everything.
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  Speaker 6: I also feel like you may have a handful of
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  Speaker 6: character witnesses as well. Perhaps they'll be an expert to
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  Speaker 6: combat doctor don Hughes and her testimony.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I'm thinking so far.
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  Speaker 1: The problem with character witnesses is Lauren Colin, and You're right,
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  Speaker 1: he needs a character redo. Once the defense brings on
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  Speaker 1: good character, the state can then bring on bad character,
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  Speaker 1: which typically is not allowed in a criminal case because
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  Speaker 1: the claim by the defense is the defendant will be
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  Speaker 1: tried on their bad reputation, and therefore the state is
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  Speaker 1: not allowed to bring that in on itself.
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  Speaker 3: Think of a vampire, Lauren Conlin.
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  Speaker 1: You have to invite it across the threshold before it
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  Speaker 1: sucks your blood and you die. Same thing with bad
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  Speaker 1: character evidence. You can't just bring it on because you
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  Speaker 1: know the defend has been convicted before. You have to
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  Speaker 1: either use it as a similar transaction to prove your
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  Speaker 1: case in chief, or wait, lie and wait for the
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  Speaker 1: defense to say one word about good character, and by
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  Speaker 1: doing that they open the door and the state can
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  Speaker 1: step over the threshold and bomb the defense with bad character.
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  Speaker 1: I A convictions, So are they willing to risk that?
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  Speaker 1: But you did say you think that we have in
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  Speaker 1: store witnesses to legitimize, legitimize what.
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  Speaker 6: His businesses, Colm's enterprise, bad Boy records, everything that we've
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  Speaker 6: seen so far, I do feel like we're going to
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  Speaker 6: see people that worked for him who had no idea
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  Speaker 6: what was going on behind closed doors, what was going
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: on at night. And we actually got a taste of
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: this from the CFO that the government brought on.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: This was a man that went to her extremely.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: Polished, and they kind of used him to go through
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: some of the money that was transferred from Cassy's parent
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: to Bad Boy, and this CFO kind of said, yeah,
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: that's what it says, but I had.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: No idea what was going on.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: So I actually feel like there's going to be more
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: people like him, just not testifying about anything to farious,
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: just saying that yeah, everything was legitimate. This LLC, this person,
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: and this company. They had a huge share in this.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: So mister Holmes didn't have all the control here. He
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: was actually just a fraction of having control over this company.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, listen, this is this is.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: What we wear.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Why don't you just hand over the irs returns for
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the last ten years that be done with it. What
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: does that have to do with forced orgies and sex
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: trafficking business records?
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: My rear ran, what are you talking about? Woman?
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: I totally understand what you're saying, but this is this
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: is what I feel like is going to happen. Based
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: on the testimony of this one CFO, I felt like
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: that actually went well for the defense, and so they're
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: running from there saying, Okay, we need to get more
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: guys like this who will sit here and say Diddy
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: did not have one hundred percent control of all of
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: these different entities. He only had a fraction of control.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: So how how could he be responsible of paying all
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: this money illegally, you know, through this company?
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: When the jury cares about who had control of all
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the entities, I think they're concerned about who had control
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: of what's in his pants and what is in the
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: pants of the sex workers and what they were doing
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: against the will of the victims.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, hold on Lauren Common, how long do you believe now,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: remember they're lying, how long you're gonna have to throw
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: out anything they said? How long do you believe the
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: defense case is going to go? How many days?
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: My best guess would be about a week and a half.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, so you're giving them seven eight days of testimony?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I am only because of the person, but I guarantee
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you it'll be less than that.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: I only say this because things seem to come up
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: every day and then we get behind because these things
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: come up again, jurror issues issues with evidence, the defense
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: wanting a mistrial. I mean, things come up and we
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: get behind, and we end up losing hours in the
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: courtroom at times. So that's why I'm giving them a
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: little bit of a grace period here.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, you know what, You're right, Lauren Comlin, You're absolutely right. Okay,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: So you're saying seven to eight days due to delays
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: in the courtroom, not because they're putting up eight days
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: worth of testimony and evidence. Next big question will comes
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: override his lawyers because you know, he really does know
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: everything in his mind and take the stand?
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Will come take the stand?
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: Lauren Comlin, No way, Nancy, And I say this because
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: specifically about the kid Putty incident, the alleged arson and
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: the alleged trespassing. I feel like generally and intellectually we
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: all know that he was responsible. However, on paper and
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: legally they can't exactly prove it, so there is some
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: doubt there. I feel like if he was to get
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: up up on the stand, they could directly ask him
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: about this and he can't perjure himself.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And that was a single best move that my old
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: co inch or god rest is soul Johnny Cochrane ever made,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: was somehow beating down OJ Simpson. So he didn't take
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the stand, but oh it was quite the production. When
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the defense rested, Simpson was like, huh, I want to
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: take the stand, but they're not letting me.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Those a holes aren't letting me.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: So I'm sure cons will put on a big show
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: in the courtroom and act like I really want to
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: do I do, but she won't let me. As opposed
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to idiot Alex Murdogg, his lawyers told him not to
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: take the stand and he took it and got convicted.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: So I am willing to bet that Brian Steel and
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Tanna Gerrigos, both of them great lawyers, will sit on
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Combs and keep him physically from taking the stand.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: He did a voodoo ritual.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: And he's probably doing blood ritual sacrifices on the rats
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: and brooches in his jail cell.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: You started this, Destales, not me did.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: He pulled the bird from the cage and threw it
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: into the air.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: It was dead.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: The poor bird sacrificed its life in exchange for not guilty.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: It's going to take more than voodoo rituals to pull
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: this one out of his.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: You know where.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: It has literally been weeks in the Monahan Federal Courthouse
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: for the state to put up its case. What does
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the defense hold? Well, for one thing, what about the witnesses?
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: The state didn't specifically Sean Combe's cheap of step. I
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: guess you stole that phrase from the White House. I'm
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: talking about Christina Korum.
• 24:12
  Speaker 11: Listen, Sean Diddy, Combs's chief of staph Christina Korum, has
• 24:15
  Speaker 11: been accused of numerous atrocities, from forcing employees to carry
• 24:18
  Speaker 11: drugs or recruit women for freak offs to standing witness
• 24:22
  Speaker 11: to a gang rape after trying to place an iud
• 24:26
  Speaker 11: in the victim. Quorum, whom Combs has referred to as
• 24:29
  Speaker 11: his sole sister and right hand worked for the mogul
• 24:33
  Speaker 11: for more than a decade after previous roles at Paramount
• 24:35
  Speaker 11: Pictures in Burberry. The two were previously close, with Comb's
• 24:39
  Speaker 11: posting a long birthday message for Quorum on Instagram.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, that was a bombshell. Now let me just stay.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Christina Korum denies everything, But isn't it true? Sidney Sumner?
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: The state made a comment in open court where they
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: referred to Christada Korum as an unnamed co defendant.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Didn't that happen? Is that how they referred.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: To her an unnamed co conspirator? Nancy? And that was
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: the comment that led everyone to believe that we would
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: see Korum testifying for the government, But it seems like
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: she won't take the stand to prove their case. Now
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: most interesting to me, Nancy. In Special Agent Penland's testimony,
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: going over all of these text messages records, it is
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: finally Ben Pruven that Christina Korum knew that escorts were
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: being invited to these hotel Knights. We've had previous assistants
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: testify that Koram just told them the hotel Knights were
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Cone's private time with women. But we now know that
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: she was fully aware that there were escorts going to
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: those rooms, and Cone's assistants and bodyguards were providing cash
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: for him to pay for those escorts.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: So those are the texts that Homeland Security Special Agent
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Penland rounded up and corralled and presented to the jury
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: right near the end of the state's case. And that's
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. For instance, when you put a
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: case to the grand jury, right, hearsay is allowed in
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the grand jury, and the most effective way to do
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: that and direct is to put on your lead investigator.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Since hearsay is allowed, the lead investigator can testify to
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: what this one said, what that one said, all of
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the search warrants, all of the wire types, all the evidence,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and one fell swoop of a witness. Okay, that's what
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Penland did. Penland brought it all together with texts, emails,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: documents that Sidney Summer's talking about to show to the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: jury what was really happening. That may be one of
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the reasons, out to Philip Dubay, that they didn't bring.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: On Korum, Christina Korum, the chief of staff, the soul sister,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: because why allow her on.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: The stand when the defense would then have her on
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: cross and that would be basically seawan Comb's testifying, and
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: every once in a while she'd go, yes, that's right,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: that's right, that's right to agnifilo or steal or tenny garages.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: So why risk that cross examination where korm can explain
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: everything away as best as she can, When you can
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: get the same damning evidence in through her texts and emails,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: they can't be cross examined.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: It it was brilliantly charged. When you look at the indictment,
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: you have all these people who are named as unindicted
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: co conspirators. So what that lands the prosecution without running
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: a foul of that Crawford hearsay rule. The US Supreme
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: Court case is that statements made by co conspirators can
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: come into evidence without violating due process and the federal
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: rules against hearsay. So yes, they can come in for
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: their truth. Frankly, not even as an exception. And if
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: the defense feels that clarification for further explanation is needed,
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: they can put her.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: On Sidney Center.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: The eye popping number, the painful number, forty six thousand,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: seven hundred eighty six, forty six thousand, seven hundred eighty
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: six dollars for.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: What damage to the Penthouse suite at the air Continental
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Hotels on Times Square. That number is ridiculous, Nancy. That's
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: a down payment for a whole for some people, and
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: fifty k on damages to a penthouse for one stay.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: And that's back in twenty twelve, So extremely concerning. What
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: could he have possibly done to this room? We know
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: baby oil was used, ube handle wax was usually everywhere,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: but I just can't even stab them. How you possibly
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: create that much damage in a hotel room?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Doctor Beveny Marshall, help me
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: quickly a fifty thousand dollars hotel damage bill to the
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Penthouse suite in New York City. We heard within the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: last seventy two hours that there was so much baby oil.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: There were actually two slip and falls and one.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Day with the baby oil that when they saw combs
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: coming in they check in ladies, quick, quick, quick.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: There's add on one thousand dollars up front for the
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: room damage.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: They would have to put out air freshener's glade.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Is not going to fix that, okay, uh uh.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: You can put out candles all over, and they did
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: put candles all over that penthouse, sweet, and it is
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: not going to get rid of the stink that's going
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to go down during those free costs. So they would
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: see Combs is on too razia like quick, quick, quick,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: add one thousand dollars up front, one thousand dollars. This
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: is nearly forty seven thousand dollars. That's not even the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: rental for the room. That's the damages after free.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Calls and after.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: It'd be interesting to see what their budget the hotel's
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: budget is for decorating per room. So let's say it's
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: fifty thousand dollars for the penthouse. They are re they're
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: really redoing, reconstructing, and redecorating that room. I would imagine
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: they're pulling up the carpet, they're repainting, they're buying new furniture.
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: You can't fix something like this, Nancy. And also it
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: makes me think about not just the lube, but the
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: instruments of violence that might have been in that room.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Whips, maybe knives maybe don't make me laugh now, some
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: things never go away.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: They had to pay five hundred dollars for the curtains alone.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: What was done to one curtain? Five?
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: Maybe someone was swinging from it. What about the fine art,
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: and what about and then what.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: About the kitchens? And go away?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Or do you need one of these ultrasonic germ cleaners?
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: And then people will come into that Penthouse the next
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: day or whenever it got cleaned again and just sit
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: down on those questions having no idea. They were sitting
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: on top of freakoff terms.
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: Well, now, Nancy is going to be like selling a
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: house where somebody died. You just can't do it. You know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: if people know that somebody's been sick and died in
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: a house, they don't want to purchase it. Now everybody
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: knows about p Diddy's hotel nights and freakofs and where
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: they happened. Do you think those discerning clients are going
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: to want to book a room at the Penthouse at
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: this hotel at the Innerconto Continental in New York City?
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Probably not Mary freak Off Christmas. They're viewing battery. It's
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: like eating a dirt sandwich.
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: What is being done to these women.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Tours coming to mind?
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: Freaky pers Are they being sodomized? Are they being chained
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: in compromising positions?
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Are they so out of it.
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: They don't know what's happening them?
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Are they being whipped?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I just want to wash my mouth out with the strine,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: with lysol, with rubbing alcohol. To doctor Bethany Marshall joining us, renow,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: it's like the analysts out of.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: The LA jurisdiction.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Christina Korum okay, I guarantee I know one
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: person that would hold her just as liable although she
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: declares her innocence as Seawn Combs. That's going to be
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Lenn Shaw, and I want Lynn Shaw to hear this.
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: Mat will will discuss sexual topics with the victim and
• 33:25
  Speaker 12: undressed in front of the victim.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Will be pressent pro cess ask involving the minor.
• 33:31
  Speaker 12: Latives in Evertha Maxwell's the presence as a destilled woman
• 33:37
  Speaker 12: helpful the videos at ease. As Maxwell and Editing intended,
• 33:42
  Speaker 12: this moning process left the minor beata's susceptible to sexual abuse.
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: That is just included sexualized.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Messages during the minor dati, whether fully or partially anew
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: the social.
• 34:01
  Speaker 12: Wide nostalgists developed into sexual encounters for Mascal and some
• 34:06
  Speaker 12: distances were as.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: In a participation.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: That's Audrey Strauss, that is, the US attorney for the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Southern District of New York. And she is talking about
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Elaine Maxwell, who was the madam, the pimp for a
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: now deceased Jeffrey Epstein. Now the comparison between Christina Korum
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: and Sean Combs has been made, comparing too Jelaine Maxwell
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: to Epstein.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: And the girls.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: The victims that Audrey Strauss was describing were girls literally
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: school girls.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: What effect did that have on the victims?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Well, three of them have committed suicide, most recently Virginia Jeffery.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Three after living through Julane Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein and
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the sex abuse as young girls, they committed suicide. Three
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: three people committed suicide, and then Epstein reportedly killed himself. Now,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Christina Korm again, there you go. What are they smiling about?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Nothing good? That's just like the cripkeeper smiling at you. Yeah,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: that can't mean anything good. You know, woman, button up
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: your shirt. She's behind bars right now.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Christina Korm did not take the stand, and you gotta
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: wonder why so. Lynn Shaw joining me, executive director and
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: founder of Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending sex abuse and
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: sex trafficking of women and girls. You know, even the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: devil has an assistant that would be bills. Abub Corum
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: has not been indicted, and she declares her innocence.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: What do you make of it?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Because based on what we heard right at the tail
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: and of the States case, she knew about all those
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: sex workers.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: She knew exactly what was going on.
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: What do I make of it? We don't have enough
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: time for me to tell you what we make of it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: First of all, we find with our work at the Warriors,
• 36:27
  Speaker 9: there is always a woman involved as the right hand,
• 36:31
  Speaker 9: maybe sometimes not visible, she is always there. She's always
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: acting as that facilitator, as that big sister, especially with
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: these very vulnerable girls and women, or that mother figure
• 36:41
  Speaker 9: that they never had. And they know everything, And frankly,
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: we never had any closure in my opinion, with Jeffrey
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: Epstein and Gallaine Maxwell. They tell us she's in prison.
• 36:51
  Speaker 9: Who really knows where she is because I haven't seen
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: any videos of her walking around the prison, you know, backyard,
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: or playing basketball or any of that stuff.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: One never knows.
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: We also know at the Warriors, and we have worked
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: with a lot of Epstein victims, they are in a
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: severe mental state. A lot of them now have reached
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: out to me hearing about this dirty Ditty case. They
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: are re traumatized, revictimized. They feel like is them, even
• 37:16
  Speaker 9: though they may have had nothing to do with Diddy.
• 37:19
  Speaker 9: So what I say about Christina Korum and I'm sitting
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: here listening to all of this, you know what, they
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: can't possibly let her get on the stand because she
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: will just She's already proven to us she knew about
• 37:29
  Speaker 9: all of this, so she'll have to answer questions. And
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: I'm no lawyer, but they can't let her anywhere near that.
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: But you know what, in some ways shape or form
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: this woman. I don't know how she puts her head
• 37:38
  Speaker 9: on the pillow at night. She put out a paragraph
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: about a month or so ago. She knew nothing. You
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: know what that is, BS, She knew nothing. We have
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: all these text messages. Women went to her for help.
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: She did not do anything to help them. That's the
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: Dirty Diddy way, the King Knights and all that. So
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: we have to do something with her afterwards.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know what can be done.
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: Again, I'm not a lawyer. She knows everything, she knew everything,
• 37:59
  Speaker 9: and she did nothing. Shame on her not to help
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: these women.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Earlier.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Lauren Collin, who's joining us right now from the courthouse
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: mentioned the possibility of character witnesses being brought in to
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: help Sean Comes. Well, our friend Jimmy Kimmel has something
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: to say about that.
• 38:18
  Speaker 13: Kanye showed up to support his friend, did he, At
• 38:21
  Speaker 13: which point the prosecution said, we rest our.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Case back from our friends at Jimmy Kimmel.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, bringing on character witnesses will absolutely missfire. While Christina
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Korum didn't show up for court, Kanye did. I'm sure
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the defense dodged a bullet and they knew it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: When Kanye was forced to go in.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: The overflow room, Philip Debay, can you imagine Kanye with
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: that nine hundred thousand dollars mouthful of titanium teeth, drooling
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: and dragging along Beyoncusten sorry, his naked wife with him
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: into the court room and plopping down right behind Sean
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Comes with character witnesses like that, Yeah, case close debate.
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  Speaker 7: Well, he's not testifying. He just went there to lend
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  Speaker 7: some support. And I got to tell you, out of
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: all the trials I've done, Nancy, it is really rare
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  Speaker 7: for people to come to court and really stand in support.
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: They don't even want to be associated with the charges.
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: With the defendants who are on trial, and they just
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  Speaker 7: kind of stay remote from all the proceeding. So I
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: actually give him a lot of credit for making an
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: appearance and at least sort of signaling to Diddy that
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: he's standing by his side. And hopefully they can be
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: friends if and when he has ever acquitted or maybe.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Even you even know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: At the jail.
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  Speaker 3: Friends, what are they going to do? Braide each other's hair.
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  Speaker 1: And skip down the skip down the lane holding hands.
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  Speaker 5: Friends.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, maybe they could be friends.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, I got another thing throw at you, another curve ball,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: and this is going at about a ninety eight mph baller.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: While we did see Korum and thankfully for the defense,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Kanye didn't PLoP down in the actual courtroom in front
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  Speaker 1: of the jurors behind Combs. There have been fixtures in
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the courtroom.
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  Speaker 3: Combs has paraded his children.
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  Speaker 1: In the courtroom during State's exhibit Triple X through all
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: the discussion of male sex workers for sex beatings, you
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: name it, and again our legal expert Jimmy Kimmel is
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: weighing in.
• 40:43
  Speaker 13: His mother, sister, and three sons were in the court
• 40:46
  Speaker 13: room listening to his ex talk about these orgies not
• 40:50
  Speaker 13: the ideal take your family to workday.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: That and before was from our friends at Jimmy Kimmel
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: on ABC. I think he's right what happened, Sidney Sumner.
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  Speaker 1: His children were in the courtroom on and off throughout
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: some of the worst state's evidence.
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly right. Colm's daughters have been in the courtroom
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: much less frequently than his sons, but at least two
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: of his sons, his mother and his sister, have been
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: in the courtroom for.
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  Speaker 14: All of the heenus evidence, including when Jane testified about
• 41:26
  Speaker 14: the sick NBA role place fantasy that Combs put her
• 41:31
  Speaker 14: through where he was Magic Johnson. So they have been
• 41:35
  Speaker 14: in for a lot, and I'm frankly surprised that they
• 41:40
  Speaker 14: haven't excused themselves more often.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: We are waiting as justice unfolds. And now we remember
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: an American hero, Officer Crystal rivera Chicago PD just forty six,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: gunned down in the line of duty, survived by daughter
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: BELLA American hero Crystal GROVERA Nancy Grace signing off good
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  Speaker 1: bye friend.