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7-23: Seahawks and Mariners news, Aaron Fentress and Ian Furness · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports Test Jordan ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three kJ RFM sports headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Gooi Morning, Happy Thursday. Headlines are brought here by Frost
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  Speaker 2: Brewed course Light Choos Chill. Turns out we know why
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  Speaker 2: Nick emun Worry is on the physically unable to perform
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  Speaker 2: list for the Seahawks. He had ankle surgery prior to
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  Speaker 2: prior to emphasizing prior to reporting in the past week
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks training camp. I got the timing of his
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  Speaker 2: surgery confirmed to me this morning in the story I
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  Speaker 2: write for the News Tribune. It's up at the Newstribune
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  Speaker 2: dot com right now. The timing of that surgery before
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  Speaker 2: the end of reporting time for training camp, plus the
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  Speaker 2: arthroscopic nature of the surgery, is why the team believes
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  Speaker 2: Emon Warri will play Week one against the Patriots in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL kickoff game. He's on the physically unable to
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  Speaker 2: perform list to begin training camping come off it at
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  Speaker 2: any time he passes a physical. The Mariners lost the
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  Speaker 2: game in the Series of the Red yesterday five to
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  Speaker 2: three after leading three to two. This is how it happened.
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  Speaker 2: In the seventh inning. You're South Stewart not out of
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  Speaker 2: the woods. The All Star stands in.
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  Speaker 1: Two ops two to one, one run lead for the Americas,
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  Speaker 1: swings and drives it high deep.
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  Speaker 2: To right field that.
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  Speaker 3: Goes can't double it is god Sun. Stewart drives one
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  Speaker 3: just up the right field fence, a three run opposite field,
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  Speaker 3: go ahead home run for the rookie five to three
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  Speaker 3: Reds on the bomb by sound.
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  Speaker 2: Pope Pourria calls there, Gary Hill Junior friend of ours,
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  Speaker 2: Marion's Radio Aaron Goldsmith and the Mariners TV and the
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  Speaker 2: Reds Radio TV call I should say Pizardo giving up
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  Speaker 2: a season high three runs on one swing after he
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  Speaker 2: was one out of getting away from it. That turned
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  Speaker 2: a three two lead for the MS into a five
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  Speaker 2: to three loss three and three on the home stand
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  Speaker 2: against the bottom dwelling Giants and Cincinnati. That pretty much
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  Speaker 2: fits a team that's still trying to get back to
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  Speaker 2: five hundred LI alone first place in the America League West.
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  Speaker 2: Mariners can get back to first place starting Tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 2: They play a four game series month through Monday at
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  Speaker 2: the first place Range. Drew Seattle's one half game behind
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  Speaker 2: Texas to top the AL WESTO A really bad night
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  Speaker 2: for the Sounders last night has heard here on ninety
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  Speaker 2: three point three KJR. They lost three to one at Austin.
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  Speaker 2: That's eight two they've been outscored since the two losses
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  Speaker 2: since coming back from the World Cup break. In the
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  Speaker 2: NHL this morning, thirty seven year old Patrick Kane has
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  Speaker 2: agreed to a two year contract to return to where
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  Speaker 2: he became a superstar, the Chicago Blackhawks. He's played the
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  Speaker 2: last four seasons with the Rangers and the Red Wings.
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  Speaker 2: Now onto the show on Thursday. What is going on
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  Speaker 2: in downtown Seattle today? It took me forty five minutes
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  Speaker 2: to get from Roosevelt to Elliott Bay. It's like three miles, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It is. It was pretty busy out there.
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  Speaker 5: I usually take the roads that get me onto Fifteenth
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  Speaker 5: and that's how I come in.
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  Speaker 4: And it was pretty busy if you.
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  Speaker 2: Take the Ballard Bridge and get on fifteenth, or even
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  Speaker 2: come across through Fremont and pass SPU and get on fifteenth.
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  Speaker 2: If you get there at the wrong time, like when
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  Speaker 2: the cruise ships have come in. Oh yeah, and Magnolia. Holy,
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  Speaker 2: it's just stopped. So word do the wise. It stopped
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  Speaker 2: today on Fifteenth from where the cruise ships go in.
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  Speaker 5: I got in early, and I avoid I five at
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  Speaker 5: all costs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I do not like to do that.
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  Speaker 2: South as bad news. Right now, from the University district
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  Speaker 2: to downtown, it's like forty five minutes. Forty minutes from
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  Speaker 2: downtown from the district instruction. Yeah, yeah, I would have
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  Speaker 2: been here earlier. But I wrote a story this morning
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  Speaker 2: for the News Tribune because I got confirmation exactly when
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  Speaker 2: Nick emon Wri's ankle surgery was. Brady Henderson at BSPN
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  Speaker 2: dot com broke the story yesterday that he had ankle
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  Speaker 2: surgery Arthur scopic, and that's why he's on the physically
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  Speaker 2: enable to perform list. I'll tell you everything I learned
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  Speaker 2: this morning, the timing of it, what the Seahawks thing,
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  Speaker 2: and the Seahawks who stands to gain the most, and
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  Speaker 2: the huge opportunity he's got now during training camp that
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  Speaker 2: it looks like even Warri is going to miss the
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  Speaker 2: most of I was at the yard yesterday after doing
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  Speaker 2: the show Jimmy's on first, went inside and watched the
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  Speaker 2: Reds and the Mariners. Saw a few interesting things maybe
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  Speaker 2: notice on the television broadcast, And I'll tell you I
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  Speaker 2: don't care. He went, oh, for four yesterday and over
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  Speaker 2: five to night before batting first, where he should be
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  Speaker 2: cold Young. He is a ballplayer. I saw something yesterday
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  Speaker 2: in the field. It got overlooked because of the three
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  Speaker 2: run homer Bizardo gave up, but on the play right
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  Speaker 2: before the home run, I saw something that's like, man,
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  Speaker 2: that guy could play and keep him at one. I
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  Speaker 2: know he's over his last. Nay, keep him at one.
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  Speaker 2: Cold Emerson, by the way, is now three for his
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  Speaker 2: last thirty two. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We had that conversation yesterday about you know, would it
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  Speaker 5: ruin the confidence or is it good or not good
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  Speaker 5: to do that, because we've seen a past here where
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  Speaker 5: really good players who have come up too early Falter Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: well you.
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  Speaker 2: Will still wear coming to ten jerseys to Mariner games
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  Speaker 2: and then.
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  Speaker 4: You know, going in the way back machine to Dustin Ackley.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know which is better, to be honest.
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  Speaker 2: The difference of course here as they're paying ninety million
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  Speaker 2: dollars to cold Emerson guaranteed up.
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  Speaker 5: Front, right, But does that does that keep him here?
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  Speaker 5: Does it allow them to do whatever they.
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  Speaker 4: Want to do?
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  Speaker 2: I think it keeps him here. Brandon Donovan has begun
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  Speaker 2: his rehab stint and he's well into that now and
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  Speaker 2: that's what this question is coming about. And when Donovan
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  Speaker 2: comes back, Donovan is not a natural third basement, so
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  Speaker 2: it's not a guarantee he goes back to third, but
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  Speaker 2: he most likely will go to third base. And what
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  Speaker 2: that mean for cold Emerson, JP Crawford. Pe Crawford didn't
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  Speaker 2: play yesterday night after getting pulled from the game. Jlio
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  Speaker 2: Rodriguez did play yesterday, but he was the designated hitter.
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  Speaker 2: Did not play in the field a couple of nights
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  Speaker 2: after the hamstring issue relief though yesterday at Emerson Handcock
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  Speaker 2: back to his stellar self after remember that time he
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  Speaker 2: tried to grab the ball bare handed in Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 2: his last start before the All Star Break. He only
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  Speaker 2: lasted one and two thirds innings in that start. Well,
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  Speaker 2: yesterday he was brilliant, but the rules got him again.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about the rules, the pitching rules the Mariners
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  Speaker 2: had they need to and then these rules if they're
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  Speaker 2: going to go to six man rotation and have three
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  Speaker 2: triple A starters in the bullpen, I'm going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about that. It just struck me as I was watching
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  Speaker 2: the sixth inning and watching Bizardo warm up and Emerson
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  Speaker 2: Hancock glanced out to the bullpen and he goes. You
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  Speaker 2: could just see him look like, uh oh, I got
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  Speaker 2: to shove fast because I'm about to come out again.
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  Speaker 2: He knew it, even though he only'll give him two
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  Speaker 2: runs through six innings. We'll talk about those rules. What
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  Speaker 2: the hell's going on in Portland with the Blazers and
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Collaboro. By the way, Kevin Collabora, I think's been
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  Speaker 2: on every show but a baking show here in Seattle
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  Speaker 2: the last forty eight hours.
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  Speaker 4: He's a high commodity.
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  Speaker 2: He's how about a quote say it called it's suboptimal
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  Speaker 2: the Blazers offered to him. A legendary NBA broadcaster said
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  Speaker 2: that it was a suboptimal offer from Tom.
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  Speaker 4: Dundan, and that was him being very diplomatic.
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  Speaker 2: With that suboptimal such a such a low key shade move.
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  Speaker 5: I texted him last night and said, I think that
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  Speaker 5: might be one of the best quotes I've ever read
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  Speaker 5: from you.
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  Speaker 2: So at eleven am, we're gonna talk to Aaron Frendritt.
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  Speaker 2: Fentris is a long time Orgonian writer. It used to
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  Speaker 2: be at Blazer's Beat right a long time friend of mine.
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  Speaker 2: I've had great times on the Seahawks beat with him.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to Aaron at eleven o'clock from Portland
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  Speaker 2: to find out what's going on with the Blazers the
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  Speaker 2: arena situation. Aaron tells me, I mean, this looks like
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  Speaker 2: Tom Dundon, the new Blazer's owner, is coming straight out
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  Speaker 2: of the Clay Bennett Oklahoma City Playbook, didn't it? It
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  Speaker 2: screams that does. Yes, Aaron said, Wait a minute, there's
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  Speaker 2: a difference here in the arena situations between Portland and
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  Speaker 2: Seattle Beck in the two thousands. We'll talk to Aaron
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  Speaker 2: at eleven o'clock about that. Eleven thirty your talkbacks, you
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  Speaker 2: go to the top back Mike. The little red icon
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  Speaker 2: on the nine three three KJR dot com website or
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  Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app, which you can download for free
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  Speaker 2: if you haven't already done it at nine through three
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  Speaker 2: KJR dot com is a little red talkback button. Jessmin
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  Speaker 2: loves talkbacks segment and I hear from you she'd rather
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  Speaker 2: sprinkle him throughout the whole two hours.
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  Speaker 4: I would, but I do need some editing time.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, thirty seconds or last please and we'll play back
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  Speaker 2: your talkbacks. Will also read back your text on the
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  Speaker 2: the komodage text line four nine four to five one
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  Speaker 2: will do that at eleven thirty. We do that every
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  Speaker 2: day at that time. The first question that I have
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  Speaker 2: the lead off the show today on the text line,
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  Speaker 2: what's your level concern with Nick even worry? Keeping in
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  Speaker 2: mind it is January, but that pup list designation a
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  Speaker 2: couple days ago that seemed like a precaution is Jessmin
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  Speaker 2: and I talked about yesterday a little more significant than
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  Speaker 2: that now that we've confirmed he had the ankle surgery.
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  Speaker 2: But it is July. I've done this enough to know
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  Speaker 2: what happens in July does not make the season. But
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  Speaker 2: what's your level of concern with Nick? Even worriy? Having
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  Speaker 2: ankle surgery is arthroscopic. That means a pencil sized camera
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  Speaker 2: into a small incision in the ankle. I'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: what I learned about that this morning as well. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about that. But four nine four to five one,
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  Speaker 2: what's your level concern with Nick emun worry? And we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about who steps up? All right, let me tell
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  Speaker 2: you what I learned this morning. I got to confirm
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  Speaker 2: from the league source, because there were talk that wait
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  Speaker 2: a minute, nick emun Worriy had a youth football camp
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  Speaker 2: last weekend and apparently he was walking around just fine.
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  Speaker 2: It's with Corey and Smith. The friend of the station
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  Speaker 2: and a fellow beat writer said that he saw the
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  Speaker 2: Nicki Manworriy football camp that he didn't have a boot on.
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  Speaker 2: So then I started thinking, Okay, what's that mean. Did
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  Speaker 2: he have the surgery after last weekend after he reported
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  Speaker 2: to training camp? Right, because that would push back a
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  Speaker 2: recovery timeline. Wasn't it if you the later you had it?
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  Speaker 2: Or did he have it prior to reporting to training camp?
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  Speaker 2: Players don't have to report on Friday. The deadline for
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  Speaker 2: veterans is to report Friday. You can report whenever you want.
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  Speaker 2: And when you do report to training camp, the first
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  Speaker 2: thing you do is you take a physical exam because
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  Speaker 2: you cannot practice and begin a new league year without
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  Speaker 2: a past physical. So Emon Warrey obviously showed up early
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  Speaker 2: because he failed the physical and that's why the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: put him on the physical unable to Perform list. Why
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  Speaker 2: did he fail the physical? We now know is he
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  Speaker 2: had the surgery, so I asked around, and I found
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  Speaker 2: out this morning that that surgery was prior to him
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  Speaker 2: reporting to training camp, so prior to within the last week.
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  Speaker 2: That's a couple of weeks earlier than it could have been,
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  Speaker 2: which means he decided antasis isn't right and did it
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  Speaker 2: before he got here, and then he got here and said, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 2: this is what we're doing. No, of course he didn't
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  Speaker 2: do this on his own. He'd been talking to Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: The whole time point is because the surgery was middle
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  Speaker 2: to early July, if not earlier, prior to him reporting that,
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  Speaker 2: and the arthroscopping nature of the surgery again non invasive,
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  Speaker 2: relatively non invasive, a small incision in a microscopic camera.
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  Speaker 2: That is why the Seahawks believe he will play September
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  Speaker 2: ninth in the NFL opener against the Patriots at Lumenfield.
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  Speaker 2: In the meantime, who's this benefit the most? Well, They
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  Speaker 2: drafted a guy this year they think can be nick
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  Speaker 2: Emon Warri like in multiple roles in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the defense, from safety on up to linebacker, and that's
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  Speaker 2: Bud Clark, the second round draft pick from TCU, And
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  Speaker 2: I saw in OTAs in mini camps during the spring
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  Speaker 2: practices that, yes, they are moving him around. He was
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  Speaker 2: with the second team defense, but with the starters. When
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  Speaker 2: they split the field with the Seahawks practice, they at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the practice, one of the portions is
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  Speaker 2: they split the field on one end in the red zone.
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  Speaker 2: Are the starters against the starters at the other end
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  Speaker 2: distant reserves. I'm talking like third and four stringers versus
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  Speaker 2: third and four stringers. Think Jalen Milroe in the third
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  Speaker 2: string offense against the third string defense. But Clark was
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  Speaker 2: with those ones versus ones on the ones end of
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  Speaker 2: the field the entire time during camp, as you would expect.
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  Speaker 2: But now that role gets elevated. Here's another thing that
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  Speaker 2: became clearer once we got the word and confirmed that
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  Speaker 2: even where he had surgery. Brendan Johnson, the former Oregon
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  Speaker 2: Duck for one year in Duke Blue Devil before that,
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  Speaker 2: cornerback Eagles waived him after he had a practice squad
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  Speaker 2: season in three games with the Eagles last year. The
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks signed Brendan Johnson on Tuesday. Johnson has experienced playing
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  Speaker 2: in the box closer to the line of scrimmage, as
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  Speaker 2: well as back outside in pass coverage. So there's another
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  Speaker 2: multiplicity guy as a depth piece behind Clark and others
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  Speaker 2: who could play the multiple roles. There's nobody as good
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  Speaker 2: at those jobs as Nicky mon Worry, of course, but
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  Speaker 2: in the meantime this is a huge opportunity for Bud Clark.
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  Speaker 2: I wrote the story about it at the Newstribune dot com.
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  Speaker 2: It's up now. I posted about an hour or so
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  Speaker 2: ago about the timeline of the surgery for nick E
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  Speaker 2: moun Worriy prior to him reporting to training camp, a
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  Speaker 2: key point because that speeds up his recovery time and
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  Speaker 2: Bud Clark's opportunity now. The medical experts say that an
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  Speaker 2: arthroscopic surgery, usually for an ankle, usually requires one or
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  Speaker 2: two weeks of immobilization, boot and then up to four
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  Speaker 2: weeks or so of rehab, and that a full return
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  Speaker 2: to quote intense sports is up to two months, well
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  Speaker 2: two months from early July. I would be early September,
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  Speaker 2: which is why the Seahawks believe he's going to play
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  Speaker 2: Week one. Anyway, McDonald doesn't need to have Nicky Manworrey
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  Speaker 2: on the field in July or Argust. He doesn't. He's
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  Speaker 2: already proven even wore. He has already proven himself well
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  Speaker 2: entrenched in his defense in multiple roles, so that is
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  Speaker 2: not the concern. The concern is a course, when he
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  Speaker 2: does come back, how does he respond. Is the ankle
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  Speaker 2: fully healed? The fact that he didn't think the ankle
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  Speaker 2: was fully healed is why he had the surgery in
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  Speaker 2: the first place. So that's where it stands now. He's
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  Speaker 2: on the physically unable to perform list, again reiterating the
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  Speaker 2: rules on that a player can come back from the
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  Speaker 2: pup list if he's on the start of it at camp.
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  Speaker 2: He can come back anytime during training camp once he
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  Speaker 2: passes a physical. If he does not come off the
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  Speaker 2: pupp list through the entirety of preseason, he can go
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  Speaker 2: on the pup list to begin the regular season, which
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  Speaker 2: would require him to miss a minimum of the first
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  Speaker 2: four games. Zach Sharbonay went on the pup list yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: officially after he reported not a surprise there, of course,
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  Speaker 2: because he had the reconstructive knee surgery only in February
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  Speaker 2: five months ago. Different deal, same Designation's a pupp but
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  Speaker 2: different situation. Charbon Ay to me, I'm much more into
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  Speaker 2: the team. I am much more likely candidate to remain
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  Speaker 2: on puffed through the start of the regular season, which
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  Speaker 2: would mean he missed the first four games. Perhaps he
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  Speaker 2: comes back by mid October, which will be eight months
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  Speaker 2: out from his surgery. Not so with even worry. The
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  Speaker 2: transitory nature of that injury list that he can come
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  Speaker 2: back at any time is the key there. If he
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  Speaker 2: does get better enough that he will be on the field,
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  Speaker 2: say by end or late August, then he could do
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  Speaker 2: that and still be ready for the regular season. But Jessman,
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  Speaker 2: it is an uptick in the severity of the situation.
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  Speaker 2: Not that it's red alarms because it's only July twenty third,
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  Speaker 2: but a different set of conditions.
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  Speaker 5: Now, yeah, absolutely, and someone who has gone through our
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  Speaker 5: arthroscopic surgery myself and everything is way less invasive than
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  Speaker 5: you know when I got my knee repaired.
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  Speaker 4: And I will say that if he.
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  Speaker 5: Was walking around and I don't think we know this
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  Speaker 5: specific date of the surgery, and I also want people
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  Speaker 5: out there to know that he wasn't like willy nilly
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  Speaker 5: going around and just going it went to a backdoor surgeon.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure he was communicating with the team, but the
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  Speaker 5: team isn't going to communicate that with us as well,
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  Speaker 5: so we don't know all the details when he had it,
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  Speaker 5: what the outcome was. I think there's hippo laws against
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  Speaker 5: that for a certain extent. But I'm not overly worried
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  Speaker 5: about nick Emon Worrie. But it is a little more
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  Speaker 5: intense than we thought it was now that we know
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  Speaker 5: about that surgery.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And we'll talk on Saturday to Mike McDonald. That'll
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  Speaker 2: be the first time he talks after practice, after the
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  Speaker 2: first practice at camp, and not that he'll provide a
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  Speaker 2: ton of clarity, but he'll say they'll think he's ready
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  Speaker 2: for week one, which is what we're all hearing and
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  Speaker 2: what I've been told as well. Four nine four five one.
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  Speaker 2: I've asked you what your level of concern is with
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  Speaker 2: Emon worry and if you think Zach Charbonat's absence is
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  Speaker 2: a huge deal, and when you think the Seahawks need
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  Speaker 2: him back or sooner or later was sure help, But
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  Speaker 2: Jendarium prices that's why they drafted him in the first round.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: And I know they're slow playing him publicly and saying, well,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: let's see, and George Hallani's in the mix too, but
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: you don't draft running back in the first round. If
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: you don't think he can contribute immediately.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: I think he was a hidden gem. To be honest,
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: you know what this team does. We can go all
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: the way back to the draft and we're like, oh
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: my gosh, they picked, Oh my gosh, they picked a
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: running back. And I very much thought that they were
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: going to trade out of that first round pick. Obviously
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: they were picking at thirty two, but when we saw
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: all the trades happen, I still have my trade book
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: or my draft book out there and seeing all these
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: things happened right before that thirty second pick. That was
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: the best player on their board, and I think he
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: was hidden by Jordan Love.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Jordan Love, sorry, but anyway, he was a little bit
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: hit it.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: He was the second string running back behind Love of
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: a top ten pick. Exactly that to the to Jessman's point,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: but the thing that he needs to do during training camp,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: and we talked about this yesterday a little bit, the
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: pass game, pass block in pass catching. He admits that's
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: something he has to work on. He didn't do much
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: of it Notre Dame. He was not called on to
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: do a lot of that. He did kickoff returning and
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: early down running outside zone as his specialty, which is
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: another reason the Seahawks love him. But the past game
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: is where running backs and rookie years in the NFL
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: make their mark. You have to pass protect, you have
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: to catch the ball to backfield. In the spring practices
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: they really did hammer this catching out of the backfield
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: aspect to Price's game. And with Jeremiah Love and as
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the number one back in Notre Dame, he didn't get
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to do that a whole lot. So that's
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: where his learning curve is and they started it right
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: away in May and June with the practices. That's where
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: his rampip has to be. That, in fact, is why
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: George Hallani's stuck as an undrafted rookie from Boise State
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: a few years ago. He's coming back for now his
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: third season and he was he excelled in pass blocking
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: and pass catching on third down. That's why they may
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: he made the team. That's why he's stuck, and that's
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: why he's in the running to be getting first team
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: reps as well. During training camp, Kenny mack Tosh would
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: have been an option for that. He is now on
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: the pup list as well. He has twelve months removed
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: from a very serious knee injury that required his own
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: reconstructive knee surgery. The thought was he will be back
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: during training camp at some point. The pup list again
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: a hedge between whether he can come back during any
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: time at camp or if he can he can start
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: the season on the pup list and missed the first
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: four games as his sarbonate situation. So that's where it
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: all stands so far. With what the Seahawks have done
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: this week. It's early. I will tell you that I've
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: covered in the NFL for twenty five years. It's early.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: It's July twenty third, and there's a lot of time
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: between now, obviously in September ninth, and I will honest,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, Jessman, it has overblown the well they
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: get the rust off and get conditioned ready for the
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: regular season. A guy like Eman worry. Once he's ready
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: to play, he'll play. Yes, he doesn't need a whole
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: lot of ramp up. Yeah, there's football game speed, and
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: there's football conditioning and getting hit and all of that.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a hitting shape to be in.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: But they don't hit in training camp. They really don't.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: They don't ever bring guys again basically can't. Now. No,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the rules in the CBA are against it, You're right,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and they don't. They don't go. They don't play until
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: In most cases, the starters don't play much all in
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: the preseason. They don't tackle anybody till the opener. Part
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: of the reason why NFL games are very sloppy and
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: poor tackling the beginning the season is starters don't play
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: anymore in the preseason and nobody tackles anyone to ground
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: in training camps.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is interesting to watch it evolve throughout the
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: season with it. I mean, I call it the violence factor,
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: and the violence is not there right at the start.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: No, and not out through training cap When they bring
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: guys to ground, they bring out these high jump pit
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: mats and they land on those. Yeah, nobody goes to ground.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: It's just the way. The contracts are too rich, the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: CBA limits too much. They just don't do it. And
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: so my point is, even Warri is not missing a
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: ton as a defensive player who's tack is a big
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: big deal, He's not missing a ton by missing some
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: or most of this training camp. So yeah, they'd love
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: to have him back sooner than later so they can
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: condition him and be ready for the season opener. But
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's a little overblown when people start talking
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: about missing time during training camp to get ready for
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: the regular season. The NFL doesn't want to say that
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: because they want people to watch the preseason, and of.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Course they do.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: But I mean, we've seen it time and time again,
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: and the CBA has changed over the years that I've
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: been out here covering this team, and I mean Walter Jones.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Every single year you look at one of you know,
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: an NFL Hall of Famer and everything.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Do you really need that training camp?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Never hear home and let him stay in Alabama pushing.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Trucks exactly because he's still getting ready. And yeah, I
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: don't have major concern unless there's a contract hold out.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: If guys aren't there.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Speaking in contract, we'll talk about Devin Witherspoon in his situation.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: All signs seem like pointing again toward him signing here
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: in the next few days. Chuck asked me this morning
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: at nine o'clock, seven o'clock, what I thought. I think
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: it's gonna happen plus or minus a couple days from
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the opening of camp on Saturday up next what I
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: saw yesterday going to the yard. When you go to
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: a ball game and are watching it as a fan
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: and you just watch the game, it's different and you
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: see stuff that you don't see on television. There were
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: a couple of things, some concerning, some really positive, even
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: though the Mariners lost yet again. Eleven o'clock Aaron Fentris
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: from Portland of the Orgonian that talked about what the
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: hell is going on with the Blazers in Portland and
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Kevin collabor and the arena situation and a new owner.
• 21:31
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• 23:30
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• 23:35
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• 23:38
  Speaker 2: put you in line quickly. It was subprime that Kevin
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Collaboro mentioned as Tom Dundan's offer, which is a dig
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: of course for a guy who made his fortune and
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  Speaker 5: I mean the thing that is literally the way he's organized,
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• 24:01
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  Speaker 2: Why is that because the same people who sold Tom
• 24:07
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• 24:12
  Speaker 2: There is nothing about the Coslala family that suggests cheap
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• 24:23
  Speaker 2: thirteen billion dollars himself. But Tom Dunnan sure is running
• 24:27
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• 24:29
  Speaker 2: he's trying to shake down the civic governments in Portland
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and the county down there for improvements of six hundred
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: million dollars in more of the Rose Garden or whatever
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: they call it the Motor Center. Now, we're going to
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: talk at eleven o'clock to Aaron Fentras of The Oregonian,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: longtime friend of mine, about what's going on down in Portland,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: how it may relate to the Sonics, how maybe it
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: doesn't relate to the Sonics in leaving for Oklahoma City
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: twenty some years ago and the possibility of them coming
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: back as an expansion team. Kevin Collabora, by the way,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: will be on our station tomorrow at nine am with
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Chuck Polin Ashley Ryan.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that'll be great. I love his dulcet tones. He
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: could read a dictionary to me and I would listen.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Casey Man I put it on Twitter yesterday. But come on,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: is it not natural now that he's not going to
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: be the Blazers broadcaster, that he hangs out for a
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: couple of years, maybe does some college games, do some freelance,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: maybe some national network stuff, and be ready for the
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: return of the Sonics. I mean, bring Marcus Johnson back
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: while you're at it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Phenomenal.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: But yeah, when yes, that was the first thought that
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: I went to because when I first moved out here,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: I was working with Kevin and I got to produce
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: a bunch of ESPN radio broadcasts with him.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: They were national games and all that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: Like.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: He is highly coveted, of course, but he.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Is the one that I just remember this when I
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: started having conversations with him, he was not going to Oka.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: See No, and got it to him.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Yes, stuck his foot in the ground here on Seattle soil.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: He's from Indiana, so he's from the Midwest. He and
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: his brother both. I met his brother who is the
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: play by play guy for the Indiana Pacers, who is
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: fantastic in his own right. Yes, and I met him
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: at the National Sports Media Awards ceremony in North Carolina
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: when we were both honored as national sports writer and
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: he was a state National Broadcaster of the Year for Indiana. Yeah,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: they're Midwest guys. And he said, no, no, thanks, I'm
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: not going to the dust Bowl. I'm staying in the
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest. Honor that man, reward him for staying in
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: the Pacific Northwest and make him new Sonics owners. Where
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: we are, Samantha Halloway, We went to Friends Gates one
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: rough sports of their team. Whoever ends up bringing out
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: the Sonics back to Seattle get Kevin Gilabro please poor
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: forvar He'll be on nine o'clock tomorrow with Chuck Pyl
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: and Ashley Ryan here on ninety three point three KJFM.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I said the yard yesterday after doing the show at
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Jimmy's on first. Mariners have a three two lead into
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: the sixth. Emerson Hancock really encouraging start the one after
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: before the All Star break. He tried to catch that
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: one hopper in Tampa Bay back to him with his
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: bare hand, and he lasted only an enning in two
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: thirds and at the time when you said, hey, it's
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: going to really help it, he has his extended break
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: from the All Star break. It it did. He allowed
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: only two runs through six innings. But I was sitting
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: there on the top of the sixth and I saw
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: that his pitch count was in the high eighties. And
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: you know this team, they are so wedded to the numbers.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: And then I see Bizarda warming up in the bullpen
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: beyond left field. So did Hancock. He looked out there
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and you almost you could almost see him shudder. Here
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: we go, because he now then started to plow and
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: he got through the first two outs of the inning,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: and he's in the high eighties. He's a low nineties
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: pitch count. The last out of the sixth, the Reds
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: batter filed off about five or six two strike pitches,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: and now his pitch count's ninety five, and you knew
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: he just knew he's out of the game, even though
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: it only allowed two runs and six innings, ninety five pitches,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: he comes out, He gets out of the inning, perfect inning.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Standing ovation from the fans behind the first base Mariners
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: dugut because they know the season ticket holders have seen
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: this act many times. They knew he was done, even
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: though he didn't need to be ninety five pitches because
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the ninety six pitches arm would have fallen off. If
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: they're gonna stick to these how can let me state this,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: How can you stick to such strict adherence to those
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: pitch counts in length of start rules when you have
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: six starters, Now, that's an extra day of rest for
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: each starter, and in Hancock's case, he hadn't pitched since
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: three days before the All Star break. I mean, if
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: there's ever a time to say, okay, go another ending
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: and get to one hundred and five hundred and ten pitches,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: that would be this one m Hm, nope, but they
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: had it set up as they wanted. Remember, the night before,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: they saved Bizarto and all the dudes so they could
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: pitch him in this day game because they had day
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: game after a night game. So they intentionally lost the
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: end of the game.
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: Plan.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: We've seen. They followed their.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Plans, but they brought Bizartro in and they had it
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: set up before Bizartro in the seventh, gave Spire in
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the eighth, Munos to save it in a ninth. They
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: win three to two. I mean it was set up that.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: That's a typical Mariners arrangement. Well, Bizardo did what he
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: has not done all season. He gave up more than
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: two runs. This is the first time all year in
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: forty eight appearances that he gave up more than two runs,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: and he'd only given up two runs and two appearances.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Right, So it makes sense that they would have confidence
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: in him going into that.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Right, So that makes sense that he should have taken
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: the seventh. He was one out away from getting out
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: of the seventh. Then the three run home or you
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: heard earlier, five to three, and with the way the
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: offense has either hit home runs and they don't win,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: you know what's Yesterday was the thirty fifth game Jessemon
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: listeners that the Mariners did not hit a home run
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: this season. You know what they're reck and you know
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: how many games they've won when they've not hit a
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: home run? Of those thirty five.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Very few?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, Joe eight?
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, yeah.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: And I know that that's not their game plan is
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: to win on home runs.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: But I think it is. Oh. I think they're pl
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I think the way the team's constructed it is Dom Canzone,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Luke Raley, even your fringe guys. They're not manufacturing runs.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Canzone's not bunting and beating out infield singles. He said,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: no one runs. He got fifteen of them. I just
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: think it is the feast or famine thing. It's a
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: lot more famine than feast with the way pitching is
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: in the major leagues this year, anyway to say that.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: It struck me while sitting there as Bizarta was coming
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: into the game. We're all over Dan Wilson for his
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: use in the bullpen in this town, but what does
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: he have to work with. It's not two but three
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: triple A relievers. They've got six starters. We talked about
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: this that leaves you with seven relievers, nearly half of them.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Three are triple A guys because of Brash on the
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: inj is on the injured list. Vargas hasn't pitched yet
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, I got it, Chris Well is on
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: the injury But the fact is that they have nearly
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: half their bullpen are triple A arms. So in any
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: given night, if you're trying to win a game, Wilson
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: has four options right now. Bizarro, Spire and Munnos in
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: that order of priority, are their main options. And that's it.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, when he's got a game online, that's what
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: he's got. So I mean, yeah, he's mismanaged a bullpen,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: but he also has nothing given to him by the
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: dudes upstairs.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Well, I think the major criticism is when you take
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: guys out over you know your right, But that's more
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: of the criticism than.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Those aren't Dan Wilson's rules. Those aren't Dan Wilson's rules.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson's not following his own rules with taking a
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: guy out who you can't start a new inning, all
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: that stuff. Pitch eight pitches and you're done because you
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: can't start. That's not Dan Wilson's no way, that's Dan
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Wilson's decision. That's Jerry de Poto. So when people go
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: all over Dan Wilson for bullpen usage, what's a guy
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: to do. He's got all these rules, he's got half
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: his bullpen triple A arms, and you can't pitch dudes
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: on so many back to back nights. I still say
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: ferr should pitch back to back then. He was the
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: closer for the Washington Nationals last year. That's your fourth guy, Ferraro,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: and that's it. He's got fer Bizardo, spire in munos
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: and alien use munos and set situations ninth inning, save
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: situations with the ninth inning, doesn't matter if the best
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: batters are coming up in the eighth inning, don't bring
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: munos in then, because at the ending doesn't have a
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: number nine on it. I mean, that's their rules. And
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: so you have these rules, and you have the staffing
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: of the bullpen, and on top of all of that,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: you have the upper echelon telling you you have to
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: have a six man rotation. So coupling, tripling, all of
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: that puts Wilson in the situation he's off and in
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: like two nights ago, when he goes with the triple
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: A dude to try to say keep it at three
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: to two. I'm not saying Wilson is a savant in
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: any stretch of the bullpen usage. But I'm saying he's
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: got one hand and maybe a couple of fingers of
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: the other hand tied behind his back. Something to consider.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you sit there and you watch and
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: you're like, I can see what they're thinking here, then spire,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: then Munos win three two, But then you realize there
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: really is no other options besides if bizarre dou gives
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: it up like he did, what's happened? They lose. I
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: mean it's a tough deal. Yes, this team, the way
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: it's constructed, has no margin, no margin. If you don't
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: hit home runs, you lose, and your bullpen has to
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: preserve because they won't stretch starters. They have to preserve.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: If the starters don't go seven, they're in trouble because
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: now the bullpen has to give to three innings to
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: win the game with a six man rotation. I think
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: it's time to loosen those rules. Get starters one hundred
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: plus pitches, get in seven innings. I mean, hell, they're
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: among the league leaders in allowing three runs are fewer
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: by a starter. They have the talent, they just have
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: these rules that stifle them. Let's take it. Let's turn
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: this game over to a bullpen that is really really
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: awful in key leverage situations because half of it are
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: triple A guys. Anyway, what I wanted to point out
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: about Cole Young before the batter, before the three run homer,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: there's a runners at first if I remember first and second, No,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: there was runner first, excuse me? Line drives single to
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: center field. The runner running from first to second doesn't
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: see the ball going into centerfield, and Cole Young runs
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: over to second base to cover the bag, realizing that
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: the battery or the runner from first to second did
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: not know where the ball was. Yeah, so what do
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: he do? He got into a crouch as if he's
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: about to receive a throw at second base. The ball
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: is in center field.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Beautiful gamesmanship.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: That's such a ballplayer. Move the runner at second instead
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: of advancing easily to third on a ball that's in
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: centerfield right center field slides. He slid into second base
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: while the ball's in center.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Field, which means he's not going to get up and
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: be able.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: To There were two older Reds fans behind me behind
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: the third base dugout, who said, what the hell is
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: he doing? I said, that's Cole Young. Cole Young de
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: him into sliding in a second. What did that prevent?
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: That prevented a runner at third with less than two outs? Yep,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: which guess what the next guy did. He flewed out
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: to deep left field. That would have been a run
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: if Cole Young had not deep that guy. And I
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: thought to myself, if they win three to two, I'm
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: talking tomorrow on the show about how Cole Young won
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the game with something you'll never find in the box score.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: But alas Bizardo gives up on the next batter, the
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: three run homer, and the play doesn't end up.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: It's not Cole Young's fault, though exactly.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: I just love seeing things like that because I'm like,
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: that's gamesmanship and it's not illegal.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: It's not banging on a trash can.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: That's right. He prevented the runner from advancing the third
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: in which a fly ball or a while pitch would
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: score him. And sure enough, there's a deep flyball the
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: next batter, and I thought to myself, that's Cole Young.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: He's twenty two years old. Keep him batting first, keep
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: him playing every day like he has been the entire season.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: The only guy you can count on every day, day
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: in and day out, and keep him because he does stuff.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: Like that, and he is such a good person, like
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: a good guy. I am in the clubhouse quite a bit.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: I go down to the dugouts and report for us
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: when it comes to home Mariner games, and I talk
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: to him quite frequently. He is exactly what you'd want
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: as a person. As a player. He's chill, he's young,
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: he's only twenty two, and I don't know how you
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: learn that at such a young age to be like that.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: That's veteran status kind of game gamesmanship.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Good job mom and dad as well. Yes, in Zanesville, Ohio,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: or no, excuse me, he's in Pittsburgh. It's cold. Emerson
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: is Zanesville, Ohio. He grew up in Pittsburgh. I'm not
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: mistake with North Alleghenia High School right outside of downtown Pittsburgh,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: just like another good Western Pennsylvania.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: Cool, chill, awesome, and you just don't see any stress
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: getting to him. And I hope as we keep talking
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: about him being one of the best players on this team,
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: if not our shop star right now at this point
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: of the season. I hope that that pressure doesn't come.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: He's the MVP of the team, but that's not saying
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: much when the team's under five hundred. I know, underperforming
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: as they are, but Cole Young is really good at
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: the nuances of the game, moving runners, over hitting the
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: ball when it's pitched outside to the opposite field with
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: especially two strikes, all of it. Really really really like
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Cole Young. It's fun to watch him in person when
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: you're at the yard. If you do go to a
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Mariner game, go check that out. By the way, almost
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: thirty nine thousand more people came to the game yesterday
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: on a weekday afternoon in July. Yeah.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: I thought that was awesome.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: So there again lies the problem if you're a true
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: hardcore Mariner fan that wants them to win. The business
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: model's working. So they're below five hundred and averaging thirty
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: six thousand people a game more than last year.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: It's huge.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: Like I said, I went on Tuesday night and I
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: was like, there's lines everywhere. I looked around the stadium
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, this thing is packed. And you're talking
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: about yesterday, a Wednesday mattin Agaate.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: It was ninety four degrees. Yeah. Up next, recapping the
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: week so far with the Seahawks. A lot's gone on
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: and they haven't even started camp yet. We'll talk about that.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Aaron Fentchriss at eleven o'clock from Portland on what the
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: hell's going on with the Blazers down there in their
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: new owner. That's next on ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Welcome back Greg Bellen, Jessin McIntyre with you on ninety
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: three point three KJRFM. Aaron Fincher is going to join
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: us from Portland, coming up at the top of the
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: hour to talk about what the heck is going on
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: with new owner Tom Dunnan the Blazer the arenas that
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: you Kevin collabor saying no thanks from a subprime his
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: word not ours subprime offer from the owner to remain broadcaster.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: The cleaned house in the broadcasting team.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: They've cleaned house with every.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Sixty seventy layoffs in the front office.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Are they sending those guys on commercial flights these like
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: it's just that may be next I it would not
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: shock me.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: The Blazers on Southwest Airlines Toklahoma City through Austin might
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: line up early. That might be yeah, that might be next. Well,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: the Southwest now you don't even line up anymore. They
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: do the old I think they changed siicket. Everything's gone
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: away the way it used to be. Assuming they'll be
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: charging for bags. The Seahawks had a very busy week.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Speaking of air travel, there are a lot of veteran
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: players who are en route to Seattle right now. Those
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: have not reported will have to do so by tomorrow.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: At this time of tomorrow morning, the deadline for veterans
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: to report. No sign that anyone won't report, including Devin Witherspoon.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: He's going to get a new contract. He's spent all
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: the pre season mini Campbota's right there, fully engaged and
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: on the field, So it's not like he's doing some stance. Remember,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: he technically has two years remaining on what could be
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: his deal. He got a one year pickup of his
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: fifty year option beyond this year, entering the final year
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: of his rookie deal. They could put him on the
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: franchise tag for another year after that, but they won't
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: because he's a centerpiece. They loved him, they love him,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: and they want McDonald wants to keep him as a
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: centerpiece and team leader. They're gonna pay him. They're gonna
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: pay him thirty one million dollars a year plus. He's
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: going to be higher paid than Trent McDuffie. It's in
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: this case he's both good and in good timing. The
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: way the NFL works, it's not always that the top
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: guy at a position is the very best player, top
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: guy in earnings at a position, top contract is always
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: the best player. It's when his contract comes due, it's
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: time for him to re up, and then they do
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: the comps for other guys at his position. And this
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: just so happens that Witherspoon has been as good and
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: the timing is right after McDuffie's deal. Now, it'll be
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: the same thing after Witherspoon signs in the first couple
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: of days of training camp here within the next week
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: or so. Then Christian Gonzales in New England will get
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: the same situation, and then it'll be the same He'll
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: his agents will judge Witherspoon's and McDuffie's contract. It's always Domino's, yeah,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: and so that's the way that goes. But it'll be
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: thirty one million plus for sure, for the Seahawks cornerback
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Probowl Corn three time Corobo cornerback Devin Witherspoon. That's not
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: all that's going on, though we've talked about the pupp
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: list situation. Now we know why nick Emon Warry is
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: on it. If you missed at the top of the
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: show US detailing I found out confirmed this morning. I
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: wrote at the News Tribune dot com that the surgery
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: was earlier this month, before he reported to Seahawks training
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: camp within the last week. He was one of the
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: veterans who reported early and in doing so failed to
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: physical and was PUSS on the physically enable to perform
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: list for an Arthur's scopic ankle surgery. And the fact
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: that he had it in July earlier in July, two
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: months plus before season begins, and the fact that it
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: was an a scope, not relatively non invasive, just a
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: small incision that has the Seahawks believing that he will
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: play September ninth, in the very first game of the
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: NFL season at Lumenfield against the Patriots. In the meantime,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Bud Clark stands to have a lot of reps with
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: the ones in that hybrid safety closer to the box
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: role that Emon Warrey loves to. I don't know that
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: he's going to be the sam linebacker that even Warry
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: is when they go to five and six defensive backs
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: on the field. I'm not saying he's ready for that
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: as a rookie. Remember it was unnatural how quickly Emon
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Worry golombed onto and excelled in every role that McDonald
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: gave him. He even had on the defensive line against
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings at the end late in last season.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying Bud Clark's ready for that. Let's see
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: what Bud Clark can do. But I'm saying he's going
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: to now Clark, the second round pick from TCU, is
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: going to get some one rep opportunities in the extra
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: sub packages that is so much a part of Mike
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: McDonald's defense sixty seventy per cent of the time last year.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Zach Sharbonay went on the puplist officially yesterday, not a surprise,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: not nearly what the Emn Warry situation is. Charbone had
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: the surgery in mid February eight to twelve months for
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: reconstructed knee surgery. ACL tears are the norm that would
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: put him on the early end in mid October puplist.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: If you're on the pupplist to begin training camp, you
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: can be on the pup list. Only guys on the
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: puplist to begin training camp could be on the pup
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: list to begin the season, which would mean he'd miss
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: the first four games as a minimum. Kenny McIntosh also
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: on the pup list. There may be others if you
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: go on the publish and come back at any time,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: they may put others on the pup list to start
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: training camp. As the rest of the veterans report between
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: now and tomorrow, but some news and it also speaks
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: the national uproar about Emon Worriy also speaks Jesseman to
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions getting more attention.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: Well, of course, and I feel like this is kind
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: of the most understated I've seen the Seahawks. I've only
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: experienced Super Bowl win with them, but I feel like
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: they're when it comes to Super Bowl champions, the Rams
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: are getting a lot more attention than the Seahawks are
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: as we head into this season. I don't think they're
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: being as highly vaunted, and I think that's exactly what
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: Mike McDonald wants exactly, and we just let us fly
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: under these clouds over here exactly.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm next. We'll go to Portland, find out what's
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: going on with the Blazers and new ownership, the arena situation,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Kevin Clapp all of it with long time O'gonian writer
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Aaron Fentriss. He'll join us next on ninety three point
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: three KJRFM Now from the Star Rentals Sports Tests. Your
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: ninety three point three KJRFM sports headlines. My friend Aaron
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Fentris coming up from the Orgoni and in Portland. After
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: headlines about you by Frost Food Corps. I choose chill, Nick,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I mean Worry ankle surgery prior to reporting the training
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: camp this past week. I learned that this morning, wrote
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: at the Newstribute dot com with the timing and the surgery.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Brady Henderson in ESPN dot com breaking the news yesterday
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: that Emon Worry had arthroscopic surgery on his ankle this month.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: The timing of the surgery, the arthroscopic nature means the
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Seahawks think he's going to be playing Week one against
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: the Patriots on September ninth. Barnon's lost the game in
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: a series of the reds yesterday, leading three to two,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: then losing five to three. Is Edward Bizardo gave up
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: a three run homer season high runs allowed by Bizardo
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: on one pitch in the seventh inning, turning a loss
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: into into a loss. Mariners are half game back from Texas.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: They're heading to Arlington to play the Rangers in a
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: four game series that begins tomorrow night through Monday. Then
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: doesn't get any easier. They go to the Dodgers play
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles next week.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Well that's fun.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not great. Another bad night, really bad night
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: for the Sounders. They lost in Austin with two late
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: goals by Austin. That's now eight goals against and only
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: two scored in two games since returning from the World
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Cup break. And this morning, in the NHL's thirty seven
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: year old Patrick Kane agreed to a two year contract
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: to return to where he became an NHL superstar. The
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: former number one overall pick back to the Chicago Blackhawks.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Patrick Kane to the Blackhawks, he's played the last four
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: years for the New York Rangers and the Detroit Red Wings.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: To the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. We go. Aaron Fentris, the
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Oregonian longtime Oregonian writer, former Blazers beat writer, A Duck's
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: beat right, Oregon Ducks beat writer. Now call him this.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Longtime friend of mine joins us from Portland. Hello, sir,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: good to talk to you again.
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: What is up?
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Greg?
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: I got too quick beats? All right? I got here
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: we go the first one.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Here we go, first one.
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: I'd someone not assault me before giving you a radio show,
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: because I want to just poured cold water. But I can't.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: I can't figure out if I'm moored perturbed about that
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: or the fact that you have a radio show. This
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: is the first time you had me on. I thought
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: we were dogs. Man, what's up?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: That's true? I will take ownership of the second one.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: It's a long time overdue. Now I'll call you now,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I'll call you all the time. We'll put you on
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: the retainer, we'll get your sponsor, and you'll be on
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: Now we're talking. There we go.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Man, Man, I've been good. How's coach you still coaching? No?
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: I gave up the semi pro world. I did. I
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: did that for like twenty two seasons. My last season
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: was just a.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Couple of years ago.
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: My players got old and a young you know what,
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: you know every Okay, people always cry about the younger generation, but.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: It's true, the younger generator.
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: They don't want to be coach, They're lazy, they don't
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: want to practice. So I can't figure out if if
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: that's them or just me getting older and me becoming
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: more of a curmudgeon.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I retired my how old we're getting there?
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: And my son twenty three refereed some of those semi
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: pro games in that same league. And he refereed a
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: game up here in Foster High School and outside Seattle
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: with with that Oregon team. It's really good. I met
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: the sponsor of it and the whole thing. But anyway,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: what the hell's going on in Portland?
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: Nice?
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: What is going on with Portland Tom Dundan? I mean,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: cand of known or do less to ingratiate himself. What
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: he's not exactly making friends down there? What's going on
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: with the Blazers? Man, Let's first start with how many
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: more people is he gonna fire? I mean, you get
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: rid of Kevin Collaboro, you're doing something.
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: Not only did they get rid of collaborate, well they okay,
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: which is worse just saying we're not going to bring
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: you back or offering him pennies on the dollar, ignoring
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: his legacy. You know, I mean it's like, yeah, it's
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: it's pretty bizarre down here. And so I covered the
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: Blazers for five years and I got I moved back
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: to the Ducks, which at first I was kind of
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: pissed about. But everything that's happened in the last year,
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: getting arrested with you know, the chaos, now this new owner,
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: I'm kind of glad I'm off that beat and every
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: one's while I chase, I change Jim Freeman about what
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: he has to do with But no, it's just been
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: crazy and it and you know, it wouldn't be as
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: bad if there wasn't this cloud hanging over you know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: the Modus Center, or this idea that could he moved
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: the team, and he's doing just all these crazy things
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: where you just it's just it's clear he just does
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: not care about, you know, the connection that the franchise
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: has to the fans, and that to me resonated more
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: than ever when he started ripping away the very conduits
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: between the franchise and the fans. You know, you lay off.
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: Casey Holdall has been running writing for the website for
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: eighteen years now, you're getting rid of the entire broadcast
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: team so far, except for I think Brooke Olsendan will
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: be safe. I don't know what's wrong with Lamar Heard,
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: but uh, it's just it's just wild. And I've talked
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: to friends about this and colleagues, and it's just bizarre
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: to me how it seems like the richer you are,
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: the less you care about humanity. You know. It's like
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: he's just some of the people he laid off even
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: before this round had been there for it. Just they
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: lived and breathed the Blazers like that was their lot,
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: if they were so committed and loyal to the functionality
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: of that franchise. And he just comes in and looks
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: at a payroll sheet and just starts lopping off names
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: without a care in the world. It's just really a
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: negative thing to do, especially in this city where I
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: think people are more maybe you know, sense goods to
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: that type of thing than other places.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I brought up on Twitter X that this is right
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: out of the Clay Bennett Oklahoma City playbook that happened
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: here in Seattle, that we're all still having nightmares about
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: to gut the Sonics out of here, and you say, well,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: wait a minute, there's not exactly the same because of
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: the arena situation in Portland being different than Seattle. Can
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: you explain that?
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: Okay, so well, they wanted a completely new arena, right,
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: almost zero public and it was only zero public almost
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: zero public support.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Correct, correct? They got Yeah, David Stern and Bena got
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: chased out of Olympia with the legislators said no way, yeah, yeah.
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: Whereas here it's a remodel one and most of the
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: money is in place, like the device tag six hundred million,
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: and you got the Staten County you have already pushed
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: in four hundred plus, and so the city which owns
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: the arena is on the hook for one hundred and twenty.
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: So it's like it's much closer to the finish line
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: of the team not leaving than it was ever in Seattle.
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: So that's why I feel like it's it's definitely different.
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: That said, a lot of people are fearful that Dundon
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: is running the same playbook. I would love the mine
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: since they put the team up for sale, and I'm
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: still of the mind that the Blazers are not going anywhere.
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: I do not I just don't. There's too many other things,
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: like one, where are they going to go? The NBA
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: is really going to allow it. It's a city, and
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: I think the city. I think the city impartial, well partially,
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: I think they're posturing. Some of the city councils I
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: think are just posturing. They're playing that game where you're
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: gonna stick it to the billionaire, right, they don't them
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: rally and they had signs no bailout for billionaires, but
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: just having a bailout for a billionaires, what are you
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: talking about. The city owns the arena. You're gonna have
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: to do something with it anyway. It's thirty years old.
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: It's going to cost you one hundred and twenty million
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: dollars in the state and the county are going to
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: pay the rest to make it a you know, a
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: top end facility. And you're crying about that. So I
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: think eventually the city council is going to get it
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: together and they're going to approve the money. I just
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: think a lot of this is just theater and it'll
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: all work out.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: What exactly I know, Well, you covered the Blazers who
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: lived there. I think you know a little bit. What
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: do they need to do they need to add more suites,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: some courtside suites. What what are the revenue generators that
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: the Rose Garden slash Modi Center lacks that the money's
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: going to get spent on.
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, all the above, you know. I I uh so,
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: before I started covering the Blazers, I'd only been to,
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: you know, a couple of other NBA arenas. I never
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: really thought about the age of the motors, and I
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: think for its age, it actually does hold up well.
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: It's not dilapidated like I think it speaks to how
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: well it was put together thirty years ago, because I
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: think you look at it like this is kind of
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: ahead of its time thirty years ago. But after covering
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: the Blazers, now we didn't travel a ton because they
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: were so bad. I had the privilege of covering the
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: worst four year stretch for the Blazers since their very
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: first years of existence and saw some of the most
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: amazingly blatant tanking in the history of tanking. Tanking were
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: like guys who are supposedly wrapped in damages and damn
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: near dance, they can't play. I see hanging out in
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: the locker room, chilling like nothing's wrong with them, because
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: nothing's wrong with them. That's how bad it was, right.
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: But anyway, I did travel enough to go to about
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: eighteen or nineteen other arenas, and when you do that
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: and you look around, you're like, ah, I get it now,
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: you know, I get it now. The modus it's just old.
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: The seats are old, the conrses aren't widening out. There's
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: complaints about how that the different kitchen areas are built.
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: They're not uh you know, they're not worker friendly, getting
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: the parking, uh, getting trucks in and out, those kind
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: of things. And then the suite the suites aren't great
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: like and then they need to do I think even
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: more important than the arena is around the arena, it
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: is completely dead. There's nothing to do. It is you
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: go to the game and you leave. Whereas you go
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: to other cities it's just lit up. There's restaurants, there's bars,
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: there's activity, it's just lively. You don't get that at
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: all because the Rose Quarter is an absolute zero. So
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: there's a lot that needs to be done to spruce
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: that area up. And I think it would be you know,
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: economically sound for the city to participate in doing that
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: because I think they'll get some benefits from it.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Don Dundon will probably want to cut off any new
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: bars or restaurants.
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Aaron fetchs from New Yorgonian joining us on the Beacon
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Plumbing Hotland Front Portland about all the crazy going on
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: with the new ownership and the Blazers. You covered the Seahawks.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: That's how we got to know each other. You covered
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: him under the Paul Allen regime and the transition to
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Jody Allen following Paul Allen's death. If you're from a
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Seahawks perspective, now that you're in Portland and see how
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Tom Dundon's running the Blazers, would you be concerned that
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: the Allen estate and Jody Allen and Burke Cole picked
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Tom Dundon and now have picked Seahawks owners. Do you
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: think there's any correlation there?
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's an interesting question. I mean Joey her responsibility
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: based on the estate was to you know, maximize the
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: value of both franchises. And I had a commerce I
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: had a conversation I can't remember his name, was like
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: three or four years ago about you know, what was
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: going on with the Blazers and the sale because everyone
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: was freaking out. But she's just selling anyway, just sell it.
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: And the person said to me, like, look, the two
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: assets you're going to hold on to for the longest
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: because you don't have to sell everything right away, right
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: are the Seahawks and the because they're going to appreciate.
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: And the light bulb went off. I was like, ah, okay,
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: if that makes complete sense. So when Phil Knight came
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: in with the offer, this was four years ago. He
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: came in with two point two billion, and everyone's like,
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: oh man, he should they they should take it. They
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: should take it because he'll he'll build it up and
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: he'll keep it in the organ no matter what, and
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: he'll make it amazing, right like he does for the
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: Eveniversity of Oregon. But Tody Allen was like, nah, I'm
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: good because she knew that was a low ball. Less
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: than a year later, the Suns go for almost four billion.
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: Now sounds are more valuable. Still that was almost double
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: and now she's just got four point three for them, right,
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: So she was proven correct and holding on the same
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: thing with with with the Seahawks. So she that was
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: her responsibility that said, I don't they claim that when
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: they met with Dundant, and they you know that Dundon
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: made it clear that it was not his goal to
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: move the team, and he's never said I'm gonna move
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: the team, So it's like, do you believe that or
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: do you believe that his actions would indicate he might?
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: But then you have to have a place to move,
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: And then what are really of the financial implications of
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: doing that? Any are the fact that I still believe
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: the city is gonna come through, So everything's gonna work
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: out because a lot of the things that were agreed
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: upon financially were done before Dundon took over, Like the
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: Blazers under Allen were already talking to the City of Portland,
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: accounting in the state about remodeling Mota. In fact, Portland,
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: the Blazers had already started the process by redoing the scoreboards,
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: so the inside you know that that wrent and over
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: the middle, and then the big ones, the big stab boards,
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: those were redone already, So that process was already in
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: place and rolling along. So I kind of believe that
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: some of this stuff is just political posturing from both
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: sides and negotiations and all that's kind of nonsense. And
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: at the end of the day, it's gonna it's gonna all.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Work out, Aaron Fenders joining a season.
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry long winded answer, but I think I got
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: to your point eventually.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why we have you on no problem. And
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: then I got to ask you about the Ducks, and
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: I got to ask you about covering major college sports
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: in the Big Ten from the West Coast and and
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: I and transfer portal and the Ducks are right in
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: the middle of high bidding on all this stuff. What
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: is it like from your I teach at the University
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: of Washington Nucllegiate Athletic Leadership program. I see it from
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: the athletic department hiring perspective of how it's changed college sports,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: but just from a perspective of roster building, of coaching,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: what's Dan Lanning doing, what is Altman doing? What is
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: different about college sports from where you see it? The pitfalls?
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Just what the hell is going on in college sports?
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Is really what I'm trying to say. Because Organ's right
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: in the middle of it, being in Eugene, Organ in
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten.
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is totally a get off my lawn moment
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: for me. I can't stand it. And I'm not saying
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: I can't stand the fact that guys are getting paid.
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: I think it's great. Clear the money's available, right, so yeah,
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: they should get paid. It's just that the system, in
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: the way it's structure, it's just lies against my sensibilities
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: in terms of competition and what it means. So, like
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: we covered the Seahawks together, right, So in the NFL,
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: one of the greatest things ever in the history of sports,
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: I think was how Pete Roselle back in the day,
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: set forth a system that would ensure competitive balance, right
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: with the draft being weighted, and then the later the
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: cap came. So that's why green Bay can compete with Dallas. Otherwise,
• 59:27
  Speaker 6: you know, in the college football world, green Bay has
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: no chance to compete with Dallas because Jerry Jones would
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: have a five billion dollars payroll and buy up every player.
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: And so what's happening now, Like I give Oregon credit
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: and Landing some credit, but I've had this debate with
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: people when people like, oh, Landing is so amazing, It's
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: such an amazing recruiter. I'm like, I'm not saying it's
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: not a good recruiter, but dude, it's easy to recruit
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: when I'm sitting when I'm plopping four hundred grand in
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: your bank account. Right, And Oregon is in a position
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: now where not only can it compete with for all
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: the big time four and five star kids out of
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: high school, but they can just raid other people's rosters, right,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: you know. And that so like Dylan finnerm and he
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: just got drafted by my bears. I was very happy
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: about that. I was helping them get him. He was
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: an All conference safety at Purdue in the Big Ten Conference.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: The Ducks are like, we need a safety. I kind
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: of like that guy, and so they offer him a
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: botload of money. Ford can't match that, and he just
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: mows all over to a conference rival. And so that
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: just creates a weird competitive balance where it's just I
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: can't respect it. Right. So I'm Oregon's gonna be good
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: and they're going to continue to be good. But it's
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: just a to me. It's far more impressive the Ballotti era,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: you know, Chip Kelly, Mark Helfritz, where they recruited high
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: school kids like Marcus Mariota and Lemichael James's center and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: developed them into winning, into going to national championship games
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: as opposed to just going out and just buying all
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: the players that you can possibly buy. So it drives
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: me nuts. It's it's difficult for me. I mean, it's
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: not difficult to cover. That's part of my job, but
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: I don't like it and it's not it's not what
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: I look forward to dealing with. Let's put that way.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Since you covered the Ducks, let me ask you on
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: the spot question Brandon Johnson. I know he was Duke
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: for three years and then only one season in Eugene
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: with the Ducks, but what can you tell Seahawk fans
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: about the new cornerback they just signed This this week.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: I've been on vacationion they signed the cornerback.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: They signed Brennan Johnson Off. Basically, it was the Eagles
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: practice squad last year and the rookie year. He played
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: three years for the Eagles. He played for Oregon for
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: one season after starting his career at Duke. I didn't
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: cover him.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: What year was that?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: And then two years ago?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: I think, yeah, this is my first year back. What
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: you're talking about?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Never mind, speaking of green Bay, my producer's last co host,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Jesson McIntyre, has a question for you about Green Bay.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: Well, it doesn't necessarily have to do with Green Bay,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: but having sideline reported for fourteen seasons in a row,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: I have experience and some bad trips, and I heard
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: that you guys quite a doozy together in Green Bay.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Demand, which is why we're bringing it up Bay.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: And also to be fair, he didn't ask the questions.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: Wow, bamboozled. Okay, what's your question?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: How was it?
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Tell us about what happened in.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: The snow in Green Bay? Man played the playoff game twice?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: We have to, that's right. So for the most time,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: I'm just set in a context for those that don't know.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Most times, you can't fly. Now it's changed, you can't
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: fly jets in the Green Bay, but for the longest
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: time you can't even fly jets in the Green Bay.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: And nobody really flies into Green Bay. It's usually Chicago, Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Appleton.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I fly to Chicago and just take the NonStop and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: then drive the three hours to Green Bay. But that
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: drive can be fun in January, and that's the context
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: for when Aaron Fenters and I drove from I believe
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: it was Chicago or maybe up in Milwaukee, and we
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: drove up from Milwaukee. Yeah, two playoff games in snowstorm,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: not from Ohio. I could drive in the snow. Aaron
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: didn't really believe that.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: Oh so were you white knuckling?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: He was crying. I needed to give him a pass away.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: Crying like a little baby. We were gonna die. No,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: we were driving. When we were driving back that night,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 6: first I had to walk through the parking lot. It
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: was like three feet of snow.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: That was the other thing. We went to a dinner
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: across the parking lot of the steakhouse with and killing
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: a bunch of other people I think he was and
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: killing a bunch of other people. I can't remember who
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: was all there from out of time. And he wanted
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: me to drive him from the press box three hundred
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: yards to the steakhouse.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, but listen, listen. I didn't plan accordingly, and
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: I was wearing like dress sheet. I didn't want to
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: walk in the snow, my feet all cold and catch
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: frost by. So yeah, I wanted him to come git
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: and he made fun of me. But the biggest thing
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: was driving home that night. We're driving home home and
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: Greg drives like there's no care in the world, and
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: I'm freaking out, and we see all these cars on
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: the side of the road. I know, I saw some
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: people eating some people that survived that.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: I know I saw that you were in a fever dream.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: I think I saw it was like the movie there
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: was a movie alive. Yeah, that too. So anyway, we
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: made it back. But then the second time, if you remember,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: we're leaving Lambeau the second what it was that that
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: was just a couple of years ago. Uh no, Man,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: oh my.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: God, that's WoT. I was nineteen right long ago? Dan,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: do you remember.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: So we got behind a plow.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were behind.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: The plow and I was just like, thank God because
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: the plow is clearing away. And then all I kept
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: singing the mister Plower song from the Simpsons. And then
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden, the plow. All of a sudden,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: the plow made a left turn, and I'm like, where's
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 6: the plow going? And war we're following it. Greg, So
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: we got to go this like, oh no, we got
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: to go with a plow.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: Go.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: It's like, that's not where we're going to milwauk Ye
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: to the walk. I go, No, I don't care. Follow
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: the plow. Follow the plow.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: Oh well, I mean, and exactly that's the end of
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: the story. I have a similar experience, but a little
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: bit different. When Matt Chasenow and I were trying to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: get out of El Paso after the twenty fifteen Sun Bowl,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: all of the flights got canceled. The team plane barely
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: took off, and we were not on the team plane.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: We were flying commercial and we got the last everything's canceled.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: After that team plane flew off, everything was canceled, And
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: so we're in El Paso, Texas and chas and now
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: is a.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: Road Warrior goes, okay, well.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: We're just gonna rent a car. I got us three
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: thirty flights out of Phoenix tomorrow. I'm like, okay, so
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: we're just gonna go rent a car. We got the
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: last rental car in the airport. There's tornadoes all around
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: Texas during a blizzard, and we drove ten hours through
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: the night, and uh, I was just watching a weather
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: map and then we see jack knife tractor trailers all
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: over the place and they were closing the roads behind us,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: and if we wanted to pull over, we physically couldn't.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: So we're like in a Chevy Spark. Our weight is
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: holding us on the ground, just being in the car
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: and we made it yep, six point thirty in the morning.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: The next day we made it to Phoenix, slept for
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: six hours, and got on a plane from Phoenix to Seattle.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: It was quite the intense experience, so I thought you
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: would know you're not alone being scared of snow.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: And I have to give Greg credit, and my family
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: thanks him for bringing me home.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: A lot made there. For a minute, I couldn't let
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: you go without bringing that up. But anyway, no, thanks
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: for telling us that there's people in the texting on
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: why are we having a duckt reporter on about on
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: the home of the Huskies. And I know it's sacrilege,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: but it's a perspective from being a Blazers beat writer
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: former Seahawks beat writer. It's good to talk to you, man.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: We'll have you back on soon. When's your first where's
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: your first trip in Oregon? Where are you headed?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: I'm actually hit at the Chicago next week for Big
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: ten uh and the Cubs are not in town, which
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: I'm very pissed off about since I'm a Cubs Bears,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: Wolfs guy. I cannot believe that didn't work out. But
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: he did at least have me on when the Ducks
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: played the Husky.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do that, don't you.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: Don't your Husky fans want to hear the Ducks reporters
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: take I'm not sure.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll be clamoring. You heard it here first. Aaron,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: thanks man, it's good to talk to you again. I'll
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: catch up soon. Yeah, thanks for doing this. Aaron Fentris
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: from the Orgonian, New Portland. He was, he's great. Yeah,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: he was crying. I kept saying let's stop for a
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: pacifier because he would not shut up. Well, it's three
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: and a half hours of whaling in the back seat if.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: You're not used to it, he said in the back seat.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah wow, oh you think he said in the front
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: of the way up in the back on the way back.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Once the snow uber driver, I was, I just don't
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: mind driving in the snow. Once the plow turned off,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: I just went like seventy five miles an hour, and
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: the across there was nothing. There was just white. We
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: could have been driving across the field. You couldn't see
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: the road. Oh yeah, it was flat. It's in mid
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: central southern Wisconsin.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: I remember that I was in the desert, which apparently
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: gets snow sun Ball.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: That's a that's a great trips man. The sun Bowl
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: up next. I don't know if we have any talkbacks.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: We'll read back. Oh good, we'll play back talkbacks. We'll
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: read back your text on the Tacoma Dodge text line.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Ian Farness is lurking outside the office or the studio
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: window here. We'll talk to him on what his show's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: coming up on ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 8: The issue I see with the Mariners team is the
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: lack of urgency. I don't know where this comes from,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 8: but when you watch the TV broadcast, you see the
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 8: players all laughing and smiling as if nothing's going on.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 8: The Seattle Mariners are a bunch of pretenders, and the
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 8: rest of the league knows it. It's time to get
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 8: rid of Dan Wilson and show Jerry Depoe to the door.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 8: I'm done with this team.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 7: Hey, they're Jessemin do Koogs and Greg. It is your
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 7: brother from another Ohio mother, If the last two days
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 7: of Midwestern heat and somewhat Midwestern humidity didn't remind you
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 7: why we live here. Thankfully, the Sonics aren't back, so
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 7: the heat can stay in the east. Now, the Mariners
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 7: are the mediocrity of major League baseball, and until they
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 7: start playing like major leaguers, all stay clinically depressed.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: Well that was uplifting.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: Well, it's two different people that kind of feel the
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: same way about the team.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Right now. In the last dozen minutes or so, Adam
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Jude of the Seattle Times Shannon Dreer, Mariner's reporter, are
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: awording that the Mariners are firing assistant hitting coach Bobby Mangalanis.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: The number three guy, actually ed Pepperella, the Mariners hitting coordinator,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: will join the major league staff for the remainder of
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: the season. The number three guy, not Kevin Sitzer, not
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson. Not Is that the problem?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Aaron, be honest.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Mariners have fired their assistant hitting coach.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the problem is.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: And also, when it comes to firings, you could point
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: at what we see as consumers of the sport, but
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: there could be other reasons as well.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: We don't know.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Magalanis has worked alongside hitting coach Kevin Sitzer since twenty
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: twenty one in Atlanta. Adam June notes this is their
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: second year together in Seattle. Mariners are last in batting
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: average and slugging percentage. We don't need to tell you
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: what they are in runners scoring position. The assistant hitting
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: coach is the fall guy so far for the Mariners offense.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I go back into that we don't know
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: the reasons because I don't think this is going to
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: really boost the Mariner fan base with Okay, they did something,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: so if it was for some sort of public hey,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: look we're making moves. I don't think that's the biggest
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: move that you can make.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: And I'm not calling for any other firings.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: I just don't think that it was necessarily done with
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: the public in mind.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: The assistant hitting coach and two five three, I'm this
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: biggest Cole young fan out there, but faking a tag
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: is bush league, not a high Q. Veteran middlandfielders are
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: tied at a young age to never do this. That's not
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: entirely true. It's safe, and it's unsafe and disrespectful. I
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: think it's ball. I think all it saves a base,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: and in yesterday's case, if Bizarroo hadn't given up a
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: home run, it would have saved him a run. The
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: tying run. It kept a runner at second base with
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: fewer than two outs. That's ball.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's a chess game sometimes and it's not always,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: and actually in baseball it rarely is. But I remember
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: Dee Gordon when he was grounding, you know, caught a
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: ground or it was a line drive, and he dropped
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: it because then he could make the double play.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: He got flagged for it, like it was ruled.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: He was supposed to be right, that's illegal by rules.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: By rules, right, so but he still tried to, you know,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: get that done. And I didn't have any problems with it.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: I didn't consider it bush League three.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Six so says it's Jerry Depoto's rules and the rest
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: of baseball's rules. Baseball has an analytics problem. It's not
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: just us. Yeah, that we've talked about any I agree
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: with that four two five. About the Sonics, Yes, bring
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: back Kevin and collaboro that is and Marcus Johnson to
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: reprise one of their all time great calls following a
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: terrific play by Debtlo shrimp play that funky music white play. Yes,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: they used to say that, Oh I forgot about It's
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: exactly right.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: It's just like the most wonderful person.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: He really is. Yeah, and he's still quite active in
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: the basketball scene here he is. But yeah, Marcus Johnson
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: alongside Kevin Collaboro and those broadcasts in the mid nineties
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: when they went to the finals against the bull they
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: that was fantastic. They had to have the best local
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: broadcasters in the NBA and sports almost that was get
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: on the magic carpet and ride baby.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: Gosh the best.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Bring Kevin Collaboro back, make him the new Sonics, the
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: returning Sonics announcer again. How fabulous that would be. It's
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: set up that way now that the Blazers have given
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: him a quote subprime offer. He said it wasn't worth
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: his time. He told Jason Quick Kevin Claboro did, remember,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: Kevin Claber will be on this station tomorrow at nine
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: am with Chuck Pollin Ashley Ryan in the morning show.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: Listen to that. It'll be worth definitely worth listening to.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, they are going to dive deep into that one.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sorry, go ahead, go ahead. I was just
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: going to say, I.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: Wonder how much fury there will be about the lack
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: of a bigger move when it comes to the job
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: structure with the Mariners, or if people just don't care.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: That that guy got fired.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: We don't really know the intricacies of what his job
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: was es so there's.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: A reason they fired, but it comes off as the perception,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: of course, comes off as that you're firing a underling,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: an assistant for a problem that goes well above him.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: But yeah, we don't know his actual role telling them
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: the reason is he telling them to try to hit
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: it to Lynnwood into renting with runners at scoring position
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: instead of just putting the ball in play. I don't
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: know that it's fault. At some point, it's up to
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: the guys in the batter's box when there's a runner
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: at second base in two out, to actually get the
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: job done.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: But yeah, maybe just his philosophy didn't align with what
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: they want.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: It's the old rearranging the deck chairs on the deck
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: of the Titanic.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: Right, But it's not. It's identic right now, that's the point.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, And I know no one wants to hear it.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: But they're a half game out of first place right
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: on July the twenty third. I know it doesn't feel
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: like that. It doesn't seem like that. They went three
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: and three against the Giants and the Reds to bottom
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: rung teams. Yes, yes, and yes, but the division ain't
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: going anywhere. And we've said it since the beginning of
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: the season on this show. There are a four or
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: five six game winning streak from being in first place comfortably.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: They just aren't getting in the four or five or
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: six game going. But yes, all of that is still
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: in play, which speaks to to Poto's comments in the
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: local media last week that we just need our best
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: acquisitions we can make are having the guys we already
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: have have the seasons they're capable of having. I looked
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: up yesterday and I just had to do a triple
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: take that Cal Rawley on the scoreboard. His average is
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: one sixty four in late July. That's crazy. Counting cold Emerson,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: the Mariners had two guys in their lineup yesterday with
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: batting averages under two hundred.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: Cold Emerson, we mentioned, is three for his last thirty
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: two now while batting ninth.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: At least I keep him in that ninth spot.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We'll see what happens when Brenda Nanoman comes back
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: from his rehab stint.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be interesting what that infield will look like
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: because we just don't.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: Know two, five three says why are we having a
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Ducks reporter on the quote home of the Huskies. I
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: mentioned that, yes, that's sacrilege in some ways, but he
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Aaron had a really wide perspective of having been a
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: former Seattle beat writer. He used to drive from Portland
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: to Seattle a couple times a week, once or twice
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: during this week for practices and press conferences and locker
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: room and then for games, and then he would travel
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: to road games. And that's how we got to know
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: each other and traveling together and became really good friends
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: doing that. And he has also for five seasons been
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: a traveling beat writer for the paper of Record in
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: Portland for the Blazers, so he knows all about that environment.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: The people he talked about they fired. I've been with
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: the team since Bill Walton and Jack Ramsey were Blazers.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, the thing that's different about the Blazers and
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: almost every other major sports franchise in this country is
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: it's Portland's only team. It is the thing in Portland,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: the Blazers.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: I've gone down for games before.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: We all have, yes, I have. It's fat. I don't
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: think there's anything wrong with that arena. But I know
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: how modern economics of pro sports, and they've been maximizing
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: revenues and all that, keeping up with the Joneses. I
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: get it, and that's why they want to modernize it.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: But but the area is great. There's plenty of hotels around.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: I just feel like it's a good spot for hoops.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and to Aaron's point, the Blazers, I'm sure want
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: to have revenue generating bars and restaurants right outside the
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: arena that they can own and have a cut of
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: the profits of. That's the trend in sports. The Patriots
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: did it in Foxborough, middle of nowhere. Foxborough is now
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: Patriots Center or whatever they call that place, Patriots Place,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: with a bunch of restaurants and bars and shopping right
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: attached to the stadium. I've been to that for Army
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: Navy and for Seahawks games, and it is a mall
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: basically to attached to the stadium, and Robert Craft and
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: the Patriots keep all of that revenue. That's some of
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: what people are fearing about what the new owners of
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks might want a new stadium for is they
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: need a footprint to have all that stuff attached to it.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: But so far, no indication of them doing that anyway.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: That's why we had Aaron Fentress on bus. He's one
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: of my good friends. And as you heard him say,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: why haven't I had him on the show before.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: I've done some sideline work with him. Yeah, that's true,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: he's great.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: I see the rest of the media is picking up
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: on the Washington State switching sidelines story now a couple
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: of days ago.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: People care about it.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: I get more shade during the Honday or shade for
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: Jessamine and more students section for the opponents.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Another coup is about to join us on the home
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: of the Husky's The Infernesse Maple Valley. Tell us what's
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: on the show next on ninety three point three kJ RPM.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: Welcome back Greg val, Jessamin McIntyre now Ian Furness, the Mayor,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: and Maple Valley with his mayor in the pale al
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: t shirt. On what Georgetown Brewery does. Producer Traviss Monger
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: preparing for the show with the Infurness coming up next
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: from twelve not a longer.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a fish bonger. Let's go, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, indeed, how.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Are you good? What was it?
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  Speaker 1: What was the store? I was just pulling in the
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  Speaker 1: air into the garage. The gay roge sare down below
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  Speaker 1: where it kind of loses a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a cell service or radio service. You
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  Speaker 1: don't were on the FM, which, by the way, you
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  Speaker 1: can hear everywhere, unlike other stations where it came here
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  Speaker 1: at Meriagame in rentin the you were talking about the
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  Speaker 1: travel to Green Bay. Did you guys have a trains?
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  Speaker 1: Planes and automobiles? You and you and Fentist. I've had
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  Speaker 1: four of them. Was that was that the last playoff
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  Speaker 1: game there in twenty twenty? I guess yes, okay it
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  Speaker 1: was what happened?
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  Speaker 2: Well that was no, that was the one before because
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  Speaker 2: the last one I had to fly to Minneapolis because
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  Speaker 2: of an ice storm.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you guys were all late almost Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: I remember, Yeah, I remember, by a bunch of you. Right,
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  Speaker 1: I had a car full of seven people. That's why
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  Speaker 1: I thought I remember that now, Yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we were there so early the week that it was
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  Speaker 1: we beat well, we didn't beat the cold. I remember
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  Speaker 1: just freezing my ass off the entire week doing live show.
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  Speaker 1: We did a live shot on Saturday, the day before
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  Speaker 1: the game the in the what was it January twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: We did a live We were doing live news all
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  Speaker 1: morning and then doing stuff later on. And Greg, don't
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  Speaker 1: I've I was in Minnesota like you for the game
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  Speaker 1: seven below. It was worse that day that Saturday in
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay and then we had to do we had
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  Speaker 1: do live shots for Portland. Oh yeah, And so we're
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  Speaker 1: in and out of the car, in and out of
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  Speaker 1: the car, and it was so cold, and I remember
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  Speaker 1: thinking like where is everybody?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you were at Minneapolis. You guys, guys all
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  Speaker 2: came in, got rerouted. We're supposed to going to Chicago,
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  Speaker 2: and we got rerouted to Minneapolis because of the storm.
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  Speaker 2: And then we drove from Minneapolis five hours to Green
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  Speaker 2: Bay and got there about an hour before kickoff. Yes, right,
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  Speaker 2: I remember that was wild. That is Gar was in
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  Speaker 2: there with me, Condoda, Brady Henderson, Yeah, yeah. Matt cockin
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  Speaker 2: Gelkin from the Dallas Morning News columnist was covering the
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  Speaker 2: NFC playoffs. Was there for this?
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  Speaker 6: Wow?
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  Speaker 2: Seven of us that you have a van or yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I can't ask you v of some kind. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: rolled in but Ventriss was in the backseat crying like
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  Speaker 2: a little baby, and of course he was, of course
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  Speaker 2: he was. That's that's that's Ventriss in a nutshell.
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  Speaker 8: Though.
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  Speaker 2: We brought that up. So you're a big fan of
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  Speaker 2: the Mariner's latest move to try to solve their problems.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know, like, like the third string hitting coach
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  Speaker 1: is your is your scapegoat?
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  Speaker 2: What fans wanted to move, they made him move is
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  Speaker 2: just not what you do. Okay, it's just not what.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't there for the hitting part of this, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Smonger came in to fix something on the rundown as
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  Speaker 1: a major league at the major league if you.
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  Speaker 2: Watch on YouTube walked By, that's why. Yes, at the
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  Speaker 2: major league level, if there's a runner at second and
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  Speaker 2: two out, does that have anything to do with the
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  Speaker 2: hitting coach. No, hitting with runners and scoring position. It's
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  Speaker 2: the guy in the box. Well, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever he's doing, like that's like you're not cutting the
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  Speaker 1: head off of the snake. Said, listen, you can't fire Edgar.
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  Speaker 1: He's got a canteen in the ballpark among other two
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  Speaker 1: of them?
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  Speaker 2: Is there two of them?
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  Speaker 6: Now?
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  Speaker 5: Well, there's one above there's a cantina below, but he
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  Speaker 5: has a.
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  Speaker 2: Statue and a staff. Okay, you can't in a street.
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  Speaker 2: Is that the same reason you can't fire Dan Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he didn't have any of those things. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a street cantina. But Kevin Sitzer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but just shake my head sometimes. Hey, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: you go take three o four from Texas. All is
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  Speaker 2: gonna be finely. And I'm being dead seriously. I know
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  Speaker 2: we've been talking about that. They're a four or five
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  Speaker 2: game winning streak. But me and in first place comfortably, yes,
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  Speaker 2: by few games. The problem is Texas is thinking the
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  Speaker 2: same thing. Yes, they are, yes, thinking the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: What do you get today?
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  Speaker 1: Oh God, we're gonna check in. We'll continue our conversation
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  Speaker 1: with Corbyn Smith. I think you and him are on
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: the same page with everybody else on what's going on
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  Speaker 1: with Eman worried. But we'll give an update on that
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  Speaker 1: coming up at at twelve twenty and then one o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: I should say, you know Sarah our weekly visit with
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  Speaker 1: haven't talked to him a couple weeks. We've been off
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: on Thursdays because of soccer. So from the athletics gonna
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  Speaker 1: join us as well. We'll get to that coming up
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  Speaker 1: at one twenty and then two o'clock we'll check in Crawford'
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  Speaker 1: Chris Craffts gonna address'll preview the textas series.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's a massive series. I mean just.
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  Speaker 1: A the road trip as a whole. But four against
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  Speaker 1: the team that you're a half game behind him in
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  Speaker 1: the division. You couldn't have I mean, I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: be honest with you, Greg, I can't wait to get home.
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  Speaker 2: Watch it. Exciting series. Let's go. Could I ring cloud
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  Speaker 2: that a second? No, because I know when the series
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  Speaker 2: is over they got to go to Dodger Stadium for
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not looking at that. I'm not looking at that.
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