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Gilbert Arenas Reveals the NBA Player He Hated Guarding the Most · Get TO The Point

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  Speaker 1: Question for you, sir. Yes, sir. Did you know what
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  Speaker 1: you were going to do post-retirement? No, I did not.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even really think about it. I was still
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  Speaker 1: trying to play. You tried to try out last year,
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  Speaker 1: didn't you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did.
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  Speaker 3: I was still trying to like really play because I
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  Speaker 3: knew I had some years left and I had something
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  Speaker 3: to give to the game.
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  Speaker 1: You know, people want to say, oh, he's too old. He,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he hadn't taken any hits, this, that, and
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  Speaker 1: the other.
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  Speaker 3: But no, I didn't know, but everybody thought I would
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  Speaker 3: transition and do like commentating broadcast, something TV wise. But no,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't really know to answer your question.
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  Speaker 1: Are you glad to be doing this?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, I'm loving this. I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I've done dabbled in it, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: But not to this degree.
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  Speaker 2: Not with somebody like me.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's different.
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  Speaker 1: Shots fired.
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  Speaker 4: Hatch.
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  Speaker 2: Hatch.
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  Speaker 1: But no, but I mean. Not even hatching how you
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  Speaker 1: feel it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But if you look at the scope, the landscape of
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  Speaker 3: like podcasts and media, like everybody is in front and
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  Speaker 3: behind a microphone right now.
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  Speaker 1: There's one person that's killing it. Yeah, there's a couple
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  Speaker 1: people that's killing it. But one of them is our
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  Speaker 1: guest today.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: This one right here. This motherfucker. Yeah. You say killing
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  Speaker 1: it as literally or figuratively. Are we allowed to talk
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  Speaker 1: about that?
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  Speaker 5: I think that was somewhere they said you can't talk
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  Speaker 5: about that.
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  Speaker 2: He's not here yet. He's not here yet.
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  Speaker 1: He's not here yet. Please show you guys like, share, subscribe,
• 1:35
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  Speaker 3: All right um should we bring him in yeah we
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  Speaker 3: definitely got to bring this guy in three-time nba all-star
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  Speaker 3: washington wizards star uh they call.
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  Speaker 1: Him agent zero gill's arena host.
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  Speaker 3: One of the most outspoken voices in basketball i think
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  Speaker 3: he not just basketball i mean him and draymond they
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  Speaker 3: may have a run at that one Because these.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, they got the gift of gab. And Charles Barkley. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: But this guy, like, yeah, I mean, I've known him.
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  Speaker 2: I've known him longer.
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  Speaker 1: True, true. No competition there.
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  Speaker 3: And we almost worked together, but we'll discuss that.
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  Speaker 1: That was almost an opportunity of us working together. That
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  Speaker 1: would have been great.
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  Speaker 3: He reached out to me, DM, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: let him tell you what I told him about that person.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck no.
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  Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, Gilbert. You like Gil or you like Gilbert? Gilberto,
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  Speaker 5: what do you like? It don't matter at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Gilbert Arenas. You don't use the.
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  Speaker 2: Gym, do you? Nah, nah, nah.
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  Speaker 1: I used to hoop with his dad.
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  Speaker 2: There's another one, huh?
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  Speaker 1: I used to hoop with his dad. Your dad, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There's another Gilbert, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I used to hoop with his dad. He would bring
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  Speaker 1: him up to the gym as a kid, and he
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  Speaker 1: would come on the court and whip our ass. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: who is this little motherfucker? First of all, how is
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  Speaker 1: your dad?
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  Speaker 2: I know he moved.
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  Speaker 1: He's not in L.A.
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  Speaker 2: Anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's doing good, man.
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  Speaker 1: He's doing good. Good, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Just getting old, you know. As we all are, we're
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  Speaker 2: as we all are. How are the kids?
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  Speaker 1: Kids are doing good, man.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's healthy, so that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody still playing ball?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: How many? Five. All five still hooping?
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  Speaker 4: No, four is hoop, one is cheerleading or... dancing and
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  Speaker 4: doing something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, whatever that is. She's good at it, though.
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  Speaker 2: She's good at it.
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  Speaker 1: He's always going to be the non-athletic one. That's the
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  Speaker 1: one that's going to be the most successful. Absolutely. She's
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  Speaker 1: going to own the team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good, man. How are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, dog. We good. Glad to have you on the show.
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  Speaker 5: Earlier, we were talking about Elijah, you know, eventually getting
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  Speaker 5: ready for the draft. And I remember when you were
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  Speaker 5: getting ready. Do you remember when I saw you at
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  Speaker 5: Sports Club L.A.? Where's the, is that? The Equinox is
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  Speaker 5: on Sepulveda.
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  Speaker 1: That's on Sepulveda.
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  Speaker 2: And it was all these dudes.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, what are you doing here? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it was a tryout, but it was
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  Speaker 1: like a workout. And I was like, this nigga isn't
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  Speaker 1: really that good. He's killing everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, that's crazy to hear, like, guys like himself and, like,
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  Speaker 3: the Colbys and these All-Americans, the McDonald All-Americans, like your
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  Speaker 3: Tracy McGrady's and LeBron James, like, How do you know?
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  Speaker 1: When do you know when you're that good?
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  Speaker 3: Because, I mean, you look at the landscape of when
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  Speaker 3: you go to the gym, now everybody thinks they're good.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know I was NBA good until probably game 40, 42, 41.
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  Speaker 4: In the NBA, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You're already in the NBA. Yeah, already in the NBA. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, playing against your college guys.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this is college.
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  Speaker 2: This is not them. And then I remember my first game,
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  Speaker 2: it was against... Toronto Raptors. Your first game or the
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  Speaker 2: first game? My first game. I got in. Right. But
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  Speaker 2: it's the first game that, like, you realize. Preseason, we
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  Speaker 2: played against the Lakers. Sure. Kobe them. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: from there, it's just fanboying it. Right.
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  Speaker 1: That's Kobe and Shaq, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: But you still don't really get a feel for it.
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  Speaker 4: So we're going, we're in Toronto, and Vince Carter missed
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  Speaker 4: his first two shots.
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  Speaker 2: Coach was like, ah, just go somewhere else with it.
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  Speaker 2: And He cold snapped.
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  Speaker 1: Bring it over here.
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  Speaker 4: They threw it up. Jason Richards just tried to steal it.
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  Speaker 4: He spins, and then he pulls it. Wah!
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  Speaker 2: And I jumped up. Oh, man! Like on the court.
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  Speaker 4: They had to pull me back, right? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: did y'all see that? And then while they're playing it
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  Speaker 4: on the replay.
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  Speaker 1: Reality kicked in. I'm in the NBA.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, shit. So I've been watching Jason Richardson for the
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  Speaker 4: last two months, just humanly dunk on everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I just, seeing him get... Shitted on.
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  Speaker 4: Just like, whoa, so there's another level.
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  Speaker 2: Another level to it.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm realizing like, yo, I don't belong here. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm like, oh no, I got to go back
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  Speaker 4: to college. This ain't what you want. So I went
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  Speaker 4: down a spiral, a dark web of just watching our
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  Speaker 4: shooting guard at the shooting guard just getting torched.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, Yeah, this ain't me.
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  Speaker 2: I was sitting there like, yo, hey, this ain't me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm about to leave soon. It all hit.
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  Speaker 1: Thinking you may get released?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I got to play shooting guard.
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  Speaker 4: Now the shooting guard who got a 42-inch, 44-inch vertical
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  Speaker 4: getting out.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, this ain't mine. This ain't the league that
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  Speaker 2: I belong in. You weren't ready for that. I was
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  Speaker 2: not even close. I'm like, yo.
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  Speaker 4: He getting 40 dropped on his head. Finley dropping 40.
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  Speaker 4: Coutinho mopping up. And I'm like, he ain't even played
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  Speaker 4: against Tracy McGrady or Kobe yet.
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  Speaker 2: This is all Ray Allen. Are we done? I'm done here.
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  Speaker 1: So then what happened?
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  Speaker 4: And then it was one of those where I remember
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  Speaker 4: Mark Jackson from Philly.
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  Speaker 2: Used to wake me up because he was trying to
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  Speaker 2: get back in shape. Like, oh, man, come on. Big Mark. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Big Mark.
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  Speaker 4: Like, come on, just work out with me. So we
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  Speaker 4: just sitting there working out every single day. Like, he's
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  Speaker 4: just working with me. We just getting better.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, listen, man.
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  Speaker 4: Don't even worry about that. I only played 25 games
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the season. Made $ 25 million. He
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  Speaker 4: was like, so when they give you the chance, just
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  Speaker 4: be ready for it. I was like, all right, yeah, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And then he was like,
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  Speaker 2: stop paying attention to what they do. Look for what
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  Speaker 2: they can't do. And then look for what you can do.
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  Speaker 2: You do that they can't do. So when I started
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  Speaker 2: watching the game, I'm like, all right, all right, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Did you truly understand what he was saying?
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  Speaker 2: Not really.
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  Speaker 1: Not really.
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  Speaker 4: You're just like, I'm done, man. And then eventually you
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  Speaker 4: just started looking. And then I realized, hey, man, these
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  Speaker 4: point guards are his hell. He was like, yeah, your
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  Speaker 4: gift is your natural score.
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  Speaker 2: Not them.
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  Speaker 1: They're natural distributors.
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  Speaker 4: They got to pass the ball. They got to pass
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  Speaker 4: the ball to big man. You don't have a big
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  Speaker 4: man that you got to pass it to. Speed, scoring,
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  Speaker 4: that's your ability when you.
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  Speaker 2: Get on the court.
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  Speaker 4: So when I just started like, okay, looking at every
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  Speaker 4: point guard and realizing, there's really.
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  Speaker 2: No one here.
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  Speaker 4: AI is just shooting, they got him at shooting guard.
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  Speaker 4: So when I got to the point guard, it was
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  Speaker 4: just only Tony Parker. And then from there, it was like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, just get out on the fast break, try
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  Speaker 4: to get easy lays. And then once I started having success,
• 8:48
  Speaker 4: it was like, All right, I'm going to just try
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  Speaker 4: to focus on this point guard position and just tap in.
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  Speaker 4: Then I started hearing, you know, what Kobe workout was.
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  Speaker 4: And then I was like, OK, now I have a workout.
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  Speaker 4: Now I know what to do. You know, that's the
• 9:02
  Speaker 4: big thing, too, is the elite in their position and
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  Speaker 4: in sports. They have a blueprint of what makes them successful.
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  Speaker 4: And if you don't know what it is, you just
• 9:15
  Speaker 4: out there just floating in the wind trying to wait
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  Speaker 4: till you hear about it, find out.
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  Speaker 2: Work with them.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like they're going to just give you their blueprint.
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  Speaker 4: So when I heard about it, I went to the
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  Speaker 4: gym like 3 o'clock. It was 3 o'clock. They said
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  Speaker 4: he goes to the gym, you know, before a game.
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  Speaker 4: So I went.
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  Speaker 2: 3 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: No, 3 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: The game's at 7. First bus is at like 5.30. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, being there at 3 was like, what? Get
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  Speaker 2: the fuck out of here. So I went there. He's
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  Speaker 2: out there going, like I said, game 7 in the finals.
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  Speaker 2: Playing against us. We only won like 7 games.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: But he's really going through it and it's just like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this is what working out is.
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  Speaker 2: His individual workout is harder than our actual practice. Really?
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  Speaker 4: And then just watching it year after year, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: just getting better just following the routine of what he's doing.
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  Speaker 4: And then from there, just putting in that work, the
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  Speaker 4: confidence comes to the point where I'm like, yeah, you
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  Speaker 4: guys can't stop me.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. And then you had to also have a coach
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  Speaker 1: that believed in you. Or did you make him believe
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  Speaker 1: in you?
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  Speaker 2: In the NBA?
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  Speaker 5: I'm talking about your coach, for you to become who
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  Speaker 5: you became, this one-slash-two guard.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: That was a scorer.
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  Speaker 4: They don't know what they want. I'm going to just
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  Speaker 4: be honest. A coach don't know what they want until
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  Speaker 4: you give it to them.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Right?
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  Speaker 3: Because you're drafted off potential and your talent.
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: So you're telling, like, so what you're saying is like,
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  Speaker 3: they don't know what they want until you give.
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  Speaker 2: It to them. They don't know what they want. Right?
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  Speaker 4: The coach comes in with a plan of how he
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  Speaker 4: thinks this is all going to work.
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  Speaker 2: I remember my first pick and roll, right? This is like,
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  Speaker 2: came off a pick and roll.
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  Speaker 4: Somehow they switched. And I'm like, oh, got the big
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  Speaker 4: man on me. About to go to work.
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  Speaker 2: As soon as I'm in the middle of it, sob, sob, sob,
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  Speaker 2: what are you doing? Like, Took the big man off
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  Speaker 2: the dribble.
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  Speaker 1: Barbecue chicken.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, do you not know basketball?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah. He was like, you don't see
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  Speaker 1: the big man down there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And you're not going to pass him the ball? No,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't playing on it.
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: I was playing on it.
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  Speaker 4: And he was like, oh my God, this is why
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  Speaker 4: you don't play. The big man is down there, and
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  Speaker 4: you're saying you would rather take your big man off
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  Speaker 4: the dribble.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And he was like, he started looking around, everybody's laughing.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, am I missing something? The fuck
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  Speaker 4: am I passing him the ball for? I pass it
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  Speaker 4: to the big man because he has a little on him.
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: They're going to double him, right? They're going to pass
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  Speaker 4: the ball back to me. We're going to swing it,
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  Speaker 4: swing it, swing it. There's a bad shooter in the corner, brick.
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  Speaker 4: I have a big man. If I take him off
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  Speaker 4: the dribble, because at the foot speed, who's going to
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  Speaker 4: block me? Oh, yeah, my guy.
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  Speaker 2: Down there with the big guy. And if he tries
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  Speaker 2: to take a charge, what? I pass it to my
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  Speaker 2: big man.
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  Speaker 1: Score.
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  Speaker 2: He's looking at me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you said this. Of course you did.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: We do the pick and roll again. They switch it.
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  Speaker 2: I pass it to him.
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  Speaker 1: Sweet, sweet, sweet.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: Brett, I did Brett. Breaked it. So, like, the next day,
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: the next day we're playing pick and roll, and I
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: looked at him. Flat. Jacob, late.
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  Speaker 4: So then eventually he's sitting there like, and then from
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: there he stopped questioning it.
• 12:51
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• 12:54
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• 12:55
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  Speaker 4: so it's mixed, right? It's a little bit of everything,
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: even though it's Chocolate City. But just for the most part, it's.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: A little bit of everything.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: A little melting pot. Yeah. So I didn't know.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Like— How big or how successful I am there will
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: actually put a spotlight on me.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I knew Jordan, but that's Michael Jordan.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: So no matter where he played, he was going to
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: be that guy.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: But I remember the owner, one of the pitches is, listen,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: you can be the face of D.C. We don't have
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: a star here.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean? Like the team? He said, no,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: all of D.C.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: He said, this is a basketball.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: They like the Redskins. They don't love the Redskins.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: They like the Redskins. He said, the Redskins here is split.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: The people here is split between three teams. Redskins, Eagles,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: or Cowboys. So DC is not just Redskins.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: It's all three. This is a combo. But the Wizards,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the Bullets, The Wizards, it's all one. You become the
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: star here, you grab the city.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: So from there, it was just having the people fall
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: in love with who you are and.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: What you bring.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: So it was fun. I had a blast.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: What is it like becoming a superstar, like right in
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: front of everybody's eyes, and then now what everybody saw
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: was like, taking just reckless shots, it seemed like the
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: norm now. Like people, they marvel at what Steph Curry
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: and all these other shooters and Dame Lillard, like shoot
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Klay Thompson. You were doing that before they were doing it. Now,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: share with us like how, what did that feel like
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: to be playing your first few games, become a superstar,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: and then essentially come to face of the Washington Wizards
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: and the Washington Bullets?
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: What's funny about the story becoming a star, when you're
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: in there in real time, you don't realize that there's
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: a lot of things that actually comes with being the
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: face of something, right? It's not actually you anymore, right?
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: So the bigger you become, the narrower your life becomes.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: The things that you just can't do as just a
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: regular athlete anymore. Like no one tells you, there's no
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: blueprint of this. You thinking, oh, you know, I've been hanging,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: I've been going to the club. Like there was a
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: time where I'm in the club, you know, getting my
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: little drink on, having fun.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: And it was like, whoa, you can't do that no more.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: What you mean?
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: It was like, listen, right? You here, you're famous. Like
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: you billboard outside. The last thing you want to do
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: is people seeing you getting wasted, you jump in your car,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: people who don't like you going to pull you over.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: You don't know what people are looking at. So you
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: don't want to be the guy. You have to represent
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: the franchise.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: You.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: The rest of them, they can do whatever they want.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: The main man can't. Even though you want to.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Water. Water. It can be vodka inside.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Show that it's water. Get drunk before you get here.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: You have to.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: And so like hearing like things like that, like when
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: someone wants your autograph. As a superstar, you got to
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: give it to them.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Somewhat obligated.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Like there's no, oh, you know, I want to eat
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: with my family. No, you eat with them all the time.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: I said, you got to think about the Jordans and
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: all this. This is the first time or last time
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: they might ever see you.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: They're coming to me. Hey, can I have a picture?
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: I know I'm sorry to bother you. Yeah, they that
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: they might not see you again you're never gonna remember.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Them is this you understanding this as you becoming this
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: or do you have people in your ear That's, you know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: that's seeing you, what you need to be.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, someone was telling me, cause they was,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: they was working with like Allen Iverson. They was there
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: when Jordan was there and the things that he was doing.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: And it was just like, so I'm learning in real
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: time of the things.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And it's just like, okay, okay.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: All right. What else? So now I, now I'm intrigued
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: with it. Okay.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So now I'm intrigued.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: What is a superstar? How do you get there? What
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: do you got to do? Now I'm going to talk
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: to the owner.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Hey, so the person that's representing you, what would you
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: like from them? Like, what are they supposed to do?
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: What do they got to stand? Like, so now I
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: want to know the man who writes the check.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: What are you writing the check for?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Is it the stats? Is it the fame?
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Like, you know what I mean? Now I'm like, okay,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: put my shorts up. Like, you know what I mean?
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Now it becomes a business now.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Are they blown away that you're asking these questions? Yeah.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Because ain't nobody going up there asking.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Nobody's doing it. Nobody's asking these questions. But when you're
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: a number one player and you're elite.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: And you've, like the LeBron Jameses and all, they've already
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: got some sort of.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: A crash course of how to move.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Right. Everybody else don't.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: So when you got superstars like Lil' Ja, it ain't
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: his fault that he's normal.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: He wants to be a normal 20, 21 year old.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: He didn't get the chance to sit with a superstar
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: or someone who's been there to tell him what he
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: can't do anymore.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: When you're a superstar like that, do you, maybe in
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: a job case, even if his father is giving him
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: good advice, is he like.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. Do you find that happens?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Once that check come, man, we ain't trying to listen
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to you. Right.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: But that comes with it, right? Is, There's something about
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: that invincible money that comes. We all humble. We all
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: become humble until I have so much money and everybody's
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: breaking their back to let me get in the club,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: doing this.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: And the ego just gets fed to the point where.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Reality just don't, it just doesn't matter.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: You live somewhere different. Like it just don't, you can't
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: tell me shit.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: But I think that hearing you say this, talk about
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: jaw and we talk about the lack of, whether that
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: may be parental guidance, whatever guidance from, from school or
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. I feel people like you
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: that have been there, done that. And I'm, I'm segueing
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: to now you have a son that's on his way.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: You've seen, you've done. I feel like the NBA is
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: in a better place because of your experiences and people
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: like you, because now you can teach him and direct
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: him and guide him in a way to where the
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: jaws of the world, they just don't get it. And
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: your experience will be able to really prepare Elijah for
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: at the next level. Would you say that he will
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: be better prepared? Because like you said, at some point
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: when that money starts to come, you've been helping him
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: along the way and it gonna get to a point
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: to where I'm sure Ja, his daddy, I'm sure he's
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: told him a bunch of things. You start getting that money,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: you can't tell me nothing at some point.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: You can give them, just like all of us at
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: a certain age, We hear you.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: We do. You know what I mean? But just like
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: any kid.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I got to try it out for myself. Right.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Right. So what ends.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Up happening is I tell Elijah all the time, I said,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: there's only so many.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: You call me and say, hey, you told me.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: I don't want to be right. Because if I'm right,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: that means you failed. And there's some fails you can't
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: recover from. So all I can do is give you
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: the blueprint to say this is how it's done. this
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: is what they're looking for, you know, hair, no tattoos,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: come in like, I can give you and tell you that,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, just like any kid,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: you're going to do it your own way.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: You're going to try your own way.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: Even though it's coming from you who's lived it, seen it,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: seen it work.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Seen it fail, he's still going to be a kid
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: that's going to want to.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Most players learn from failure, right? And also greatness.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: So where I say Ja Morant, what hurt Ja Morant
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: at that moment in time being in.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Memphis was he didn't see himself.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: In the locker room. Remember, he is a mega star
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: with these mega abilities. So the people who do... have
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: good encouraging words, he can't relate to them. I can't relate,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: you're not a number one pick, you're not a number
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: two pick. You have this five point, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: I don't wanna hear, like if he had Derrick Rose.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: The vet has to have the same stamp.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: You're gonna listen to a gold jacket You're not going
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: to listen to the fifth string.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Hey, Tio, I need you to come in and break
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: off the... I'm not listening to Chris.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to listen to you.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: You're going to listen to Jerry Rice.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: You're not listening to the third string. That's not who.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: I'm listening to to run these routes. I'm listening to...
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Because Jerry has the ring, but you like.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: I can be better than him because if I learn
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: what he has, then we use my ability that he
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: don't have. There's only right I'm going to be great.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: There's only right I'm going to be better than him.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: That's the job. That's the Zion, right? That's the LaMelo.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: You need that apex that they.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Are that's telling them, hey man, we don't move like that, homeboy.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Like if he had Rose early, remember Rose is a superstar.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Rose is a.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Guard who did what he did.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Rose is quiet.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: So he would teach him how to move.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Now that he's with Dame, He will finally understand what
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: it is to be the signature shoe guy, the face,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: the what's-her-name. So he's going to be watching and learning
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: from Dame, and Jah's going to be a better Jah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: There's a reason.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: When we really think about greatness, we really actually have
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: to really sit back and say, Michael Jordan played in
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: this league.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan played for the Bulls.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Michael Jordan was in practice every day, running every day,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: working out every day. Nobody on that fucking team had no.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Fadeaway like him.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: So y'all watching him work on his fadeaway every goddamn
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: day and you couldn't mimic the fadeaway? You couldn't do
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: none of that, huh? What was you doing in practice
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: every day while Michael Jordan was doing Michael Jordan?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant. In all? Nothing.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: In all. Like everybody else that's watching, they might as
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: well have bought a ticket to the game.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: And that's what people don't understand. That when people say.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Making you better, you got to remember that. Michael Jordan's
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: playing against somebody, right? He's practicing against somebody when he's
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: off the court. How come that guy ain't coming in
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: being good? His ass is the same sorry ass as
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: his ass was in then, right?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: You had the same knowledge as a 22, 23-year-old young man?
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Yes. watching like you you know you watch and you
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: ask like damn if i played with that dude right
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: there and i got to work out with him every
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: single day man i couldn't wait and then you start
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: like looking at the team like wait how come y'all sorry.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: To your point asking him that that's that's essentially what
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: i did because i i watched it bro i watched
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: because i knew i wasn't that good So I had
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: people that were in front of me that were better
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: than me, and I was a realist about my skill
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: set and what I could not do.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And I watched it every day. And I had coaches
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: that saw the potential of what I could be, and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: they got it out of me every day.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: If you don't have that mindset, like I said, it's
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: a shame to sit and watch Kobe or MJ be
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: on a team with these guys and you not get better.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Because my thing is, at some point I knew I
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: wanted to contribute. Like I was third and fourth string.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: I was like, our package is three and four wides.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I knew that that was the only time that I
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: was going to get on the field because I wasn't
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: a starter. So I knew like, yo, like at some point,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: I'm watching on the sideline. Like, he watching, like, remember
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: when he watching dude, he jumped up?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: That's how I'm on the sideline. I'm watching them make plays.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, shit, I want to do this one day.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I want to do that.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: So it pushed me and it motivated me to, like,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: work hard in the offseason. When I was at practice,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: my coach, I'm like, yo, what can I do? He
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: would tell me what I need to do.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I'm watching film.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: I'm watching during the practice what they're doing, how they're
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: getting off their of their releases their rock their routes
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: dropping their weight catching the ball all this all this
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: was foreign to me but i watched it i'm like
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: yo i would be doing myself a disservice to not
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: capitalize on what i'm witnessing every day I mean, he
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: said it to the T. Like, I'm following everything that
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: he's saying, bro.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Who did you fear on the court? Who were you like,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: tomorrow I got to go up against? What does that mean?
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Everybody?
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: No, the reason is everybody because all it takes is, remember,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: it's the best, close to the best 450 in the world.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: What separates everyone is mentality, confidence, right? So if you
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: don't fear everyone, and someone gets the best of you,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: you might have just made the next superstar.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Right, so if you don't fear that person.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Enough to go out there and just cut the throat,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: you know, before he cut yours, You might create a monster.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: And then when you cut his throat, just know that
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: might create a monster. So next time you see him,
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: you got to cut him again. If you do not
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: have that thought process.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: You can blink.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Your position is gone. Your spot is gone. Rearview mirror, buddy. Rearview.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Like your spot, like you said, it only takes, due
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: to injury, like you said, a misplay or you can take,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: that can destroy your career because somebody else is going
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: to be right there in that spot.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: It's confidence, man.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: You'll be surprised that some of the, sorriest players, confidence
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: makes them look good. Right.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: And then you have some stars that got talent.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Lack confidence.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: You'd be like, that is crazy.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: If he only knew I can't play no defense, this
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: man would be cooking me right now.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Right. But it's all like when you're talking about the
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Shays and the Brunsons, right, they believe.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: You can't stop me, bro. Why are you wasting your time?
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: This is easy work. I missed two, three shots. The
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: rims messed up. Like, you never self-doubt. It's the rim,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: the ref making a bad call. It ain't never my car.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: It ain't never me.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: It's never me. It's the element. Right?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Turn the air down just a little bit.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Watch me cook. Right? Fourth quarter coming.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Watch me cook.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: I can be 0 for 12. All it takes is, oh,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: I'm on fire. And that's all you need. Just remember,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: just as negative as you are to yourself.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I'm a Mr. Frieda Hartman, I'm not going to catch
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: this ball.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: And it happens, it works the same way positive. I'm
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: catching every, just throw it up. If I'm going to football, hey, hey, hey, hey, weak.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: He's weak, just throw it. Throw it, I'm getting that.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Visualization, positive reinforcement.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Like my coach used to tell me, like before the game,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: like visualize, like throughout the course of the week, we
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: get ready to go, like the night before the game,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: visualize what you want to see yourself doing on the field.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: You can see yourself doing it, it can happen. Bryce
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: used to do that all the time, bro. Like sometimes,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: some of my sleepless nights were some of my best nights.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Just visualizing. This dude right here, bro, That's what I'm
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: telling you. His confidence will take him so far.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: And that's why I was trying to segue into the
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: confidence that he had to do this podcast and to
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: do it at a high level.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: How did it come about?
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: It was someone hit me. Because, you know, the Instagram,
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: you know, tweeting and all that stuff.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: What year is this? 2007.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: 16 17 8 around that time right that's where you
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: know me and my mama going in and you know i'm.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Having fun now.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Retired get all my money yeah let's go and you
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: know someone hit me.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: About you know like doing a sports show.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Um and i was like all right there's oh yeah
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: with mia khalifa and i was like Okay, I don't,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: So I was like, does she know sports?
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: So, you know, because I've never been on that side before,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: it's not like I really know. So like watching, you know,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, she's kind of like a troll too.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: It makes it easier. A troll too.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: It's a troll too. So it's like, you know, how
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: you want to do it?
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: You know, so, you know, we threw out our little
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: gimmick to get everybody intrigued with it.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: So, you know, we did it.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: It was successful.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: It caught out of bounds, right? What ended up happening
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: there is we're on Complex.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: They switched.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: New management comes in. They started looking at budget, started
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: trying to figure out how we're going to pay people
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: contracts up. One of them little Me Too movements things,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: kicking in with BM's best friend. They threw a wrinkle
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: in there. And I had to go.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Fight that case. Went in, sued her. We won some money.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Broke ass. Still ain't paid me yet, but.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I'm still waiting for my money.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: You can tell it to the camera right there if
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: you want to.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: She probably ain't got no TV at this point. I
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: want it all. Maybe I'll put it in your name.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: You ain't going to do that shit to me. Then
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: you're going to get away with it. You want the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: TV too?
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the thought process was, but it
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: was just one of those things.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Like, Who are you?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: You still cutthroat. You know what I mean? Who are you?
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: So I had to knock.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: I got to really go do this, waste my time,
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: do this to then realize.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: You got paid 10.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Grand to just make this up because she convinced.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I bet. All right. So, you know, that ended up happening.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Then once once they couldn't afford, you know what I
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: was asking for, the producer there was like, you know what?
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: we should start our own podcast, the No Chill Podcast.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: And I was like, what is a podcast, right? It
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: was like, yeah, you just, you know, it's like you talk,
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: you know, record it, and then we put it out
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: on Spotify and stuff like that.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, no, man, I'm famous, man. I
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: need my face, you know what I mean? I'm kind
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: of handsome, man. People got to see me, man.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: And I was like, no, we can videotape, record it,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: put it on YouTube. Finish doing the first episode. You
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: know how like when you're doing something, you're editing yourself
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: and you're like, oh man, I should.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Have said this. Not that.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Damn it.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Hey man, don't even worry about that, man. Just scratch
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: that one. Just scratch that one. We'll do another one
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: like next week.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: He's like, all right, all right, no problem.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: He put it out.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, you got like 85,000 people that liked
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: the video. They watch it.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Like, what do you mean? Did the video.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I put it up. They like it. The comments is
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: good and blah, blah, blah. So, like, all right. So,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: let's record another one. Did another one. Did the same thing.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Was driving back. Was like, you know what? I don't
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: like that one. Right? So, the first three episodes did
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: not like.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: And then when I started, like, reading the comments and
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: he said, listen, they don't know what you were supposed
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: to say.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: They only know what you said. And then from there,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Then I started looking at Martins and that and started realizing.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: This is just entertainment. That's all it is. This is entertainment.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: And I realized the advantage I had.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: The advantage I had was I was an athlete who
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: did it. What I need to do is learn what
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: makes me The Skips, the Shannons, all of them, good.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: So I just got to jump into their world and
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: figure out the nuances because the information I have, they
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: can never get.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: They can never get experience. That's why I chose T.O.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: They can never get the experience of something. So I
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: just got to be seasoned. Let me just get my
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: season in, study them, see what they got.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: And then from there.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I can overtake them.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: And then we can create a new thing.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: The fans don't get a player's perspective.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: And we can just battle them. We shot a pilot somewhere.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: What was that? YouTube?
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we shot a... No, we did an episode? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: We shot a pilot or something, a couple episodes or something.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: It didn't ever get off the ground. It was around
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: the time of.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: The budgeting and all those things.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: So we done had a couple of stints where we
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: were supposed to work together. And then he.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: We got to talk about the whole skip, the skip thing.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: And you see how that shit fell apart. That was
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: part of the reason why I didn't want to do it.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Before you tell us the answer, tell us what happened
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: in the beginning. What do you mean, fell apart? He
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: was trying to create a show with you and Skip?
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Well, he messaged me about doing the show that they had,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: like coming on board. And I guess, obviously, like I said,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: giving my football experience and my takes and what have you.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I've never really been keen on Skip Baylor since he started,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: you know, trashing me throughout the media. So anyway, it
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: had nothing to do with him, but he knows exactly
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: what I told him.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, no, no, I don't care how much.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I didn't want they wouldn't buy no money like, yeah,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: that could have paid me. But I just don't get
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: down like that. You're not going to trash me, tarnish
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: my name. And then you feel like I got to
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: go work with you. no, that wasn't going to happen.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: So it wasn't, like I said, it wasn't anything against him.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: And again, Two, you saw how all that unfolded. So
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: it's probably for the best.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: You know, names are names, and then you have personality.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: So I want the personality first.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Now, if that name has a personality.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: That's Gold Star right there.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: That's where Charles Barkley, that's where Shaquille O'Neal, right?
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: That's Magic Johnson. So when I'm looking at it, I'm like,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: all right, okay, football show. Who's the first person? All right. Ooh,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I got T.O. Yes, yes, yes.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Marshawn.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Them together? So I'm thinking about damn near living color.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I want star, star, star.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Because what ends up happening is when you align them together.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Wu-Tang Clan. It's explosion.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: And when you're talking about TV and TV ratings, people
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: don't understand.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: There's a reason these shows are flatlining. You're going after
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: what used to be. That is overweight. I don't give
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: a shit if you're right. are you entertaining me while
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting here?
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Entertain me with your, like what Denzel said, entertain me
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: with your bullshit.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: And that's what it is. So when I was thinking
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: about the football, I was like, I need T.O.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: It's like, I'm waiting for, this is what sports is.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Right? But that's what makes the other, why athletes hate those.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Guys, it's exactly what they're doing.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: They're, entertaining them with the bullshit that they're bringing.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Right, so we gotta match it with the bullshit that
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: we bringing.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: And then throwing in a little sprinkle of, because the
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: only thing that's gonna come back to people who didn't
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: play is reality from the people who did. Yeah, how
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: you gonna tell me that I was a failure, but
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: this is my quarterback. have this quarterback to help me
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: win and do this. I got this guy who couldn't
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: throw past 15 yards. So now with all my talent,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: I got to overexert and do certain things and come
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: up the middle and do. Now I got to do
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: all that and you telling me I'm not this type
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: of person because of this.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: In San Francisco, we had Tim Rattay, Gino Camardi, Jeff Jeff, Jeff,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Jeff Garcia. And so that was really kind of like
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: the best that I had outside of Steve.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: And to his point, I.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Was, it was definitely, I had to like do hoops
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: and loops just to sometimes catch a football when I shouldn't.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Cause I'm like, bro, if you put the ball where
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: it needs to be, I'm a number one. Say run
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: through hoops and loops. What did I say? He said,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you had to do hoops and loops.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: That's it. That's the same thing. That's the same thing.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I got hoopin', hoopin'. Yeah. I'm trying to catch it.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: It's the same thing, nigga.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: I had to run the hoops and I had to
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: do hoops and loops just.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: To catch the football, bro.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: One year, I flirted with Jerry Rice. He had like 20,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I think 23 touchdowns in a season. The most I
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: got in San Francisco, I think, was 16 touchdowns. And
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I went back and I reflected back, I watched back
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: like the season. I could have had that. I could
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: have beat his record. Had the ball been where it
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: was supposed to be. If I didn't have to catch
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: the ball off the top of my shoes when I'm wide,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: I got a dude beat five yards, but I had
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: to stop, slow down. Instead of it being a touchdown,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: I got a yards gain. Those are the type of things.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Or I'm wide open, I got to jump for the
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: ball instead of the ball hitting me right in my hand.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Those are the sort of plays that you go back.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: And you look back like, man, You marvel at it
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: and you think about what you could have been like,
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: you really could have been really better.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: You could have been better had everything kind of lined up.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: And that's not, I'm not throwing shots at him, but
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: those are what he was talking about, going through the
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: hoops and loops and just doing a little extra stuff
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: when you really don't have to. I could have been, bro,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: I could have been so more dominant than I was.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: had I had not done, you know, had to do
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: all of that.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: Like, it just doesn't make, you know, I don't watch
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: the football like that, but I just be wondering, I'm like, well,
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: if the receiver's catching the little out pass for 15
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: yards and he breaks all the way, how is he
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: getting credit for that?
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: My point.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: To his point, it's an 80-yard pass. He throws it
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: five yards. Those extra 75 goes to him. Those yards
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: go to him. But I did all the work.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just one of those things that's like, for
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: a quarterback to be good, he has to have somebody
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: to catch.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: The ball, right? Absolutely.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: It works both ways.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: It has to work the other way, too. A receiver,
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: for the most part, his success is.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Relied on the guy who's throwing it to him.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: So, we talk about rack, run out the catch, or yak,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: yards out the catch. That's what's so crazy.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Like, There's never really been a receiver to win MVP
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: of the league. It makes no sense. And it's like
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: we've never really been in contention. It's not even a
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: thought process.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: But we, like I said, in the West Coast offense,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: we as receivers, it's predicated on short intermediate passes and
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: us doing what we do in the first five.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Ten yards and then taking the distance. But the quarterbacks
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: get the.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: You know, they get you. It's a weird thought. It's
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: a weird thought.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: So let's talk about, I don't know, do we call
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: it show one, show two? Yes, damn near. Okay, let's
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: talk about the first show, right? You had McCants, Josiah.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: Was Kenyon there in the beginning?
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Not at the beginning. He wasn't there in the beginning.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: You got Brandon.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Can we talk about Brandon?
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I love him. Is he as good as he thinks
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: he is? No, yes. No, high school? Yes. Amazing. Yes.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: But he talks about his pro career.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: So he's in the same thing as any player who
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: was really good that got injured.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: That's what it was. And you used his resume.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Like, wait, hold on, hold on. Before I got, I
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: scored 55. That's true. I apologize. As a rookie.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: Now, if it was that easy, everybody could have. I'm
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: a rookie who scored 55. I'm number one. This is
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: what I did. And I asked him, I said, hey, man, look,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: after you hit that 55, I said this, what happened?
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: He said, what do you mean?
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: Who told you to stop shooting? He was like, because
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: I've been there before. There's a veteran on your team
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: that just saw Oh shit, I'm replaced. They don't need
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: me no more. He got the young bop, he got
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: the swag, he got the game. Oh, he's about to
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: sell out tickets. Oh, I need to cut his confidence
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: right now. I need to put a leash on him.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: Because it's 55, you know what I mean? So if
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: I got to do it, because right now it's still
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: kind of, I got to put a leash on him
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: so he can, hey, let me save a.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Couple more years. And then he kind of threw it
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: out there like, oh yeah, that makes sense.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: They always try.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: So yeah, nah, he's nice.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, good.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Brandon, I apologize.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: So how'd you pick this group?
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: When I had this show sold, and the show was
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: like a concept.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Didn't know what it was. I knew I had the idea.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: I was like, all right. Charles Barkley and them. But
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: on YouTube. But can... dive deep.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Into the conversation, because we're not censored.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: We're not censored, nor do we have time.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, that's... So this is like, he
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: came later. So I was like, I don't know what
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: it is. So I was like, all right, so who
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: we got?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Shit, I don't know nobody. Okay, okay, who lives here? Right,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Who lives here? So I remember.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, Rashad, I seen Rashad at the gym. So I'm
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: going to the gym in the morning and then, you know,
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: talk to him. Say, hey, man, I got this show idea, right?
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: You know, I got this show idea, right?
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but, you know, if
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: you want to be a.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Part of it, I can get you in some episodes.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: What's up? He's like, hell yeah.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: All right, call me. All right, cool, cool, cool.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: We got one. All right. You know what? JC cut
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: my hair. Hey, see what Brandon's doing. He live around
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: the corner. He's like, yeah.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: All right, pat, pat, pat, pat.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: All right, Nick. okay he don't want to answer the
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: phone okay.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: Cool alright so you know what I mean so it
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: was like you know I put these feelers out and.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Whoever hit me back I was like all right.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: We're going to go.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: So, Brendan said, all right, I can do. Then it
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: was like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. So, Brendan was Tuesday. Then
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: I got word that we locked in Rashid and Bonze
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: for Wednesday, Thursday.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: So, Brennan comes Tuesday.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: So, how I remember Brennan is because he did my
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: last episode of the pre-recorded. And I did a, you know,
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: we just, you know, interviewed him. So that's how I
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: remember the last people I interviewed. Okay, let's see, you know.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: So we did, so Brennan then on the Wednesday came,
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: you know, Rasheed and Bonzi don't even live here.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: So I was like, wait, how did you, why would you,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: you know, tell them that, oh, I thought we would
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: have like Zoom in.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, We don't have that kind of feature yet.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: So I was like, shit, Rashad. Hey, Rashad, hey, man,
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: you want to come in? You know, so Rashad came in, right?
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: So Thursday, Bonzi, that's the same problem.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: He don't live here.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what? Just Brendan and Rashad,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: just bring them both.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: For the Friday, for the Wednesday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, for
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: the Thursday show. So we had them both. The following week,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: we thought we would have it fixed. It wasn't.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: They did it again. Then I was like, you know what, man,
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: fuck it. This is my crew. This is my crew.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: They came here. They didn't care about anything. The vision,
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: they made the vision work. We got six episodes in.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: The comments, people like it. This is who I'm sticking with.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: And then from there, it was like, okay, we needed
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: Lexi Brown. WNBA season started, so she can't do it.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: So then I was like, oh, I know Mikko. Miko
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: knows sports. So I say, Miko, I don't mean to
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: bother you. I know you live in Florida. If you
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: in L.A., can you come do a show with me?
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: And then do some, oh, I'll watch it, yeah. I'm
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: going to be there next week. So she came, started
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: doing it for me, and then. Kenyon, I work out
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: with Kenyon's wife in the morning at 24 Hour Fitness.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: And she's like, hey, Kenyon wants to know, you know,
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Kenyon's proud.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Kenyon wants to know, can he be a part of
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: the show? You know what I mean? He knew you
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: asked him earlier. So Kenyon technically kind of started it, too.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: We did a watch party on one of my prerecorded shows.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: And that's kind of like the concept. It was us
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: talking sports, watching the game. So he was originally kind
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: of part of the original thought process. So him coming
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: on and then from there at the end of the season, like, hey, man,
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: I want to do this.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: I was like, I bet. So season two, I had
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: my cast and we went on and started season two.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: When did you know you had a hit?
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: It was 2022, 2023. After All-Star weekend, we started it, right?
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: And then Summer League.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: So we decided to go to Vegas for summer league,
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: and the players are reacting.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, hey man, where y'all filming at? Like, yo,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: hey man, I'm, you know, so the players are like, like, like.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: They following him.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: You see they're like, okay, like we really got, no
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: matter what kind of shit we was talking this whole time,
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: I remember I was talking shit about Zion when Zion
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: walked in. Like, it was like he was watching and
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: heard me. Because I was talking about like dieting.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah. Keeping in shape.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Keeping in shape and dieting.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: And he walked by the glass and then looked pointed
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: and came in.
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: With a double cheeseburger. What y'all talking about? But it
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: was like I've always.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Had concern about him.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: And the reason is.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: I gained weight while working out three times a day.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: All because I didn't understand calorie count.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Right? Didn't understand. I wasn't burning as much calories as
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I thought. You were taking.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, you were taking more.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Than you were burning. Drinking Gatorade. There was one time
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I went on a scale. Right? Because everybody was like, hey, yo, hey.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: They're like, I'm 2% body fat.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: I'm 3%.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I weigh 210.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, 210?
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: I weigh 208.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Like, what are you talking about?
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: I'm thinner than you.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Jumped on a scale.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: That shit said 224. You just.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: Like, freaking out, like, 224, I'm fat, I'm out of shape, like,
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: and it just didn't, like, and so I was, like,
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: freaking out, like, yo, like, what's going on?
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I'm lifting too much, so I'm like, I don't want
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: to touch the weights no more. And he was like,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: it's not the weights.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: What you eating? Right.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Boston Market, same shit I've been eating.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Boston Market.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: So he was like, we need to track what you're doing,
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: because that's a big jump from, you know, three weeks ago.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Realize, drinking six Gatorades during the game.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: Shooker. So then I started doing, then it was like
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: that G2 that came out. So I'll do G2. So one,
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: I'll pour half the G2 out, put water in it.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: So I'll G2 the G2. And then realize just that
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: right there cut my weight.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: So when I thought about my problem and I had to.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Be conscious of thinking about, like we're gaining weight during
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: the day. So I'm looking at him like 280 coming
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: to the NBA. Just being you, normal. coming in, hanging out,
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: eating late, girls, drinking at the club.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: You can be.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: All of 315 by the time your rookie season because
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: you're not doing as much cardio as you really thinking.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because people think the NBA practice and trains like hours.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: They practically like walk through. They shoot around.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: We play basically three and a half games a week.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: When I played, training camp was training camp. So October
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: 1st started from October 1st, basically, all the way into Halloween, basically.
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: You know, that first week or two, two weeks then,
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: two days. So we're doing two workouts a day to
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: get in shape. So most of the older guys didn't
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: touch a ball until October 1st.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: So they rested their body. October 1st, they used that
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: month to get in shape.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: So if you was basically someone who actually worked out
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: in the summer, you kind of had an advantage at
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: the beginning. But for the most part, the older guys,
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: they just wait until October. So when it came to
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: just getting in shape in the season, we had real
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: training camp and Once the season started, we dialed it down.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: So you're talking about January?
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: If we're not playing five on.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Five, I'm not practicing.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: And people don't understand when Iverson said practice. Right, yeah.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: They don't understand. What?
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Think about it.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: Take yourself out and watch the game. When you talk
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: about practice, what they doing? Giving the ball to Allen Iverson?
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: What he doing in the game, you want him to
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: do that in practice too? Every single time you think
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: practice is give the ball to Luka and Luka go
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: sit here and do that, you really think that's practice?
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: No, practice is.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: A whole bunch of shit that's not going to happen
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: in the game.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Run around.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: We're going to draw the plate, do the screen. We're
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: going to back the horn.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: We're going to do this.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: We're going to do that. We're going to do this.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: We're going to do that. And then get in the game.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: All right, Luka gets in the game. Hey, sit your
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: ass in that corner. Sit your ass in that corner.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do this. Like, think about how the
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: game is playing. Brunson, we know Brunson's offense.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: You really think y'all going to spend two hours doing
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Brunson's offense?
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: No.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: Hey, y'all go take some shots so y'all can help
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: me fucking in the game.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: And that's what the media don't... Again, that's what media
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: don't understand and... The audience, everybody, the viewers, they trying
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: to gather information from media when they don't really know.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: You're talking about, it's almost like what Ryan Clark was
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: telling you, like you're a non-athlete.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: You don't know. You don't know.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: We're talking from experience. You're talking from a lens of
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: you covering the game, not actually being an actual player
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: and even being an athlete in general.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the most frustrating part is.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: When you're not in training camp, you haven't seen the
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: Lions battle. And this dominance of order has been set.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: We done set this order. We know who's who. And
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: you're the media questioning in game.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Why I didn't give him the ball.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: Did you see him complain? But you just put the
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: thought of, I need to pass him the ball. Now
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: he thinks he should get the ball. Now he's sitting
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: over in the corner, talking about, hey, hey, hey, hey.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Whoa.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: You're like, you can't shoot.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you open for a reason.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: You can't shoot.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: You telling me why I don't trust my teammate.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: We went to Miami, spent two days there. Five of
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: them spent the whole night at Tootsie's, came back four
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: in the morning.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: They couldn't even go.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: To shoot around because they were still drunk. And you
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: have the audacity to.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: Tell me why I don't pass it because, like Kobe said,
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: I don't trust their work ethic.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I was just about to say that. That's what Kobe said.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: And you think he's selfish. The selfish person is.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: The one going out all night drinking.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: And not asking for the ball. Right.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Not taking care of your life.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: You didn't work on no shots this whole week.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: But you sitting there taking shots as soon as you
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: got in the game just because Coach drew a play up.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: Something's wrong with you, man. But that's the battle that
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: we're having. You're not understanding this game, but you're judging it.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: And our legacies is built on your opinion. You ain't
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: been to practice one time to know our plays, to
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: even know who fucked up. You just know I came
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: in and I had this shot and I passed it
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: to the corner.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: And yeah, he missed it.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: Now you saying I'm not Jordan-like because Jordan would have
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: never done it. Well, Jordan's coach didn't draw up a
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: play for me to pass it to the corner because
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: he knew Draymond Green was about to take up and
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: take the charge and leave the corner open. The only
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: reason we know Jordan passed the ball to Steve Kerr
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: because that was the play that he drew up. Knowing
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: damn well if it was Jordan drawing up the play,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: he would have never passed it to nobody. But obviously,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: they're playing Jordan the way he's going to be open.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: That's called great coaching. Smart, understanding the game. But you're
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: questioning and judging because all you see is what we're
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: pushing out. I'm making basketball plays. to basketball players, and
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: you're questioning it, trying to change the rules.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Because you have the audience that you have, are you
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: worried about the backlash of you giving your honest take
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: and throwing those guys under the bus? And I say
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: that because a lot of guys, these young guys, they're sensitive.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: They don't want to take the constructive criticism, and you're
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: coming from a place of, I've been there, done that,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: I understand everything.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: The game, you have the IQ to be able to
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: give that opinion.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not worrying about it because I'm unbiased to
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: a fault, meaning if.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: You fucked up and you could.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Be doing better, I'm going to say it, but.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: If you're doing better, I'm.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Going to say it.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: So I don't have, like, oh, I don't like this guy,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: and then I'm just going to keep attacking him like
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: he ain't a champion now. Like, when I was attacking you,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: you were selfish, you did this, you wouldn't.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Pass the ball.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Now you sacrifice your game, you're passing it to the people,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: and you're a champion. You need to be rewarded for that.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: Right? So I'm going to always, so people are like,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: you just flipped. Yeah, because his game flipped.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: Has any player approached you about something that you said?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: And then in that, have you changed your take on
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: anything that they've told you based on what they came
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: up with?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: Like, someone hit me in the DM and then I
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: will show them. Because remember, in the game, we think
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: we're doing things that we're not doing. And I'm like, yo,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: if you can't shoot and you're open, you don't have
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: to shoot it. The worst thing Going on for a
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: guy who can't shoot is making a shot wide open.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, now he want to keep on shooting. Now he
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: wants to keep on keeping on. Right.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: So it's like, all right, look right here. He turned
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: his head back door cut in front.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Every time somebody turns their head to look at the ball,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: ball watchers.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Back door.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Set a flare screen.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Cut. Right? Like, be a basketball player. Move without the ball. Yeah,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: you don't need to be a robot.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: Like, understand the offense so good and understand the defensive
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: player so.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Good where you need to make moves.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Where I call a player like, hey, man, like, Kyrie, hey,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: this move you did, what are you looking at?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, that was a travel. I just got
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: away with it.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: So it's like having a conversation, but them understanding that, hey, yeah,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: I didn't like you when you was doing this. Like,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: why are you settling when you got this type of player?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: And then watch the next game and they adjust. Right.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: So, Baguio's Arena with this new Motley crew of guys.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: You got Cousins on there.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Josiah's back. Nick is there.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Who else you got? Iman. Iman.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: We have Evan Turner.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Iman might be my favorite.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: He is so passionate, and he's so intelligent, and he's
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: not afraid to say when he's wrong.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: That's what makes him great.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: And I think that's what hurts other people from being great.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're not afraid to say when you're wrong.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: I got a new take tomorrow.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Right. But that humanizes. You got a retraction.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Iman is fucking great on the show.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: And that's, that's like.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: But those are the type of energies that I want. Like,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: these are the conversations we have in the locker room.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: It's like barbershop talk.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Most of the times we fight, it ain't got shit
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: to do with us.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: We over here debating somebody else's greatness.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Right, and then we get into it.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: I'm just quarterback, brother, I'm just quarterback. That's what we
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: do anyway.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: So you just bring on the personalities that have great opinions,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: and then from there, all I'm doing is just trying
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: to piggyback on who's who. Okay, when Iman's here... I
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: don't need to be here. I can come down here, right?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: Depending on who is here and just fluctuate.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: You're good at that. Try to figure out what pisses
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: him off.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's one of them. Oh, he's a role player
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: type of guy. Right. He don't believe in the stars
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: can do it all. Okay, all right, I'm going to
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: get him.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: Right? So, okay, so Boogie's with me. He's a star player,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: so he understands. So you just figure out how to
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: make a great show.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: No, you orchestrated.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: And I tell him, hey, listen, whatever you got to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: say about me, to me, I'm not going to get offended.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Get the take.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Get the take. Get the take. That's all.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Get the take.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: God damn it.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I now give you permission to do what he just said.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Let's get the take. Get the take. Talk shit about me.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: You know why I said get the take?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I be trying to, but you be trying to.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Because somebody going to get it.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: You be like, I be trying to offend you. I'm like, no,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: I just be trying to be funny. I'm not trying
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: to get the tape.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: I apologize.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: I be trying to get the tape. I didn't know
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: what you was doing. Right, but you didn't.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: But I didn't know how to tell you.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I be thinking you be really thinking I'm serious.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: But I be trying to get the tape. Trying to
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: get the tape.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Now you know why I be saying it. Yes.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: Like, for example, you remember when you and Flex was.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: On a thing?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to get a take. Right, but
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: you got to remember, I'm really, really good at this.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: So if I come back with you, people are going
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: to be mad at me. No, but it's all good.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I know it's a take for me.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: That's how you get the ratings?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck if you mad, click that.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Hit that like button.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: But that's what I was doing.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: That's why I was like, because I didn't know the dynamic.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: I know we funny when we do the show, but
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: I know people.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I was hurt.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: I said it.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Shit.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: They were doing something skid on the golf course, and
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: I said something about he looked like he had some
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: boobs or something. And it's almost like I'm telling you like.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: You know I hear you talking about me. He's like, T,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: that's not nice.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I just did it to be funny
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: because I know people are following us, the show. So
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: anything that I tag in, it's going to be good
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: for content.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Now I really understand. I mean, of course, I got it.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: But to be Stu Nance and Michael Jordan.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: Is who you are.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: In terms of the knowledge.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Like you sang, you.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: You had the game, you had the knowledge of the game,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: but then gaining the knowledge of what the.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Skips and the Stephen A.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: Smiths had makes you guys elite. Even though it looks
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: like y'all fucking around in there, these are fucking five
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: athletes that have been in locker rooms, have been in
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: the trenches, and they really know the game.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: And even though it's humorous and ignorant at times.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: We love it.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: You know, because I purposely worked with all three You
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: can't sustain that type of top without being gifted, hardworking.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: So I need to know what it is. Knowledgeable.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I need to, you know what I mean?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: So what ends up happening is, you know, sitting there
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: with Steve and A, who's very different from Shannon, who's
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: very different from Skip.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Right? All three different or totally different. Right. How they approach,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: how they think of it. Right?
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: So, like, Stephen A's more of, you know, you just
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: throw the ball up, let's play, right?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: So it's hard to catch him off guard.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: Because all he's waiting for you to miss one thing and.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Then he's just going to drill you on that, just
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: run you around in circles. That's his skill, right?
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Shannon's militant, right? You know, everything is perfection.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: Like, and then with Skip, Skip is, he's the funniest
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: one because he knows everything.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: He knows what he's doing and he still does it.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: So he'll sit there and say, LeBron had, he had 40?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: How many shots did he miss in the fourth quarter?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Three? What was the time of it?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: The last two minutes? That's all I need.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: So he's going to frame up something to discredit those
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: 40 points.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: He's going to frame it where he wants his agenda.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: So what he's saying is never wrong.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: He's just not going to tell you, the peas suck
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: at this Thanksgiving. The reason this Thanksgiving sucks is because
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: of the peas.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: The Thanksgiving could have been great to him.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: The fucking peas ruined it.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: And that is a skill.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Ten toes down every single time.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: He's going to talk about what LeBron did in that
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: fourth quarter to cost them possibly the game.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Those missed shots.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: He didn't come to clutch with those 40 points.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: But then you got to look at When he doesn't
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: like someone, it's because he likes someone.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: I like this person, so I can't like you.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: And you know what I mean?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: So when you think about his favorites, And if you're
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: his favorite, he's riding a dive for you. He don't
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: give a shit what type of, if he's riding, he's
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: going to ride and dive for you. If he don't
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: like you, it don't matter what you do out there.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: You're going to have 57 tackles. Should have had 58.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Right? So working with him and understanding that there's no waiver.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: He's not going to waver. He's going to give you
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: his facts. If you can't combat it, oh well.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: My job is to give you the facts of why
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's the greatest. It's your job. You
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: are Team LeBron. You're supposed to give me the facts
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: on why he's the greatest. It's not my job to
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Throw the ball up. Let's see who's going to win
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: this battle. He makes you study more. Got it.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: Like, if you know, like, okay, he's going to give
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: some takes against LeBron, he makes you dive deep into stuff.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: So you got to outthink him.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: So you got to be like, all right, so he's
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: going to talk about, you know, against the Dallas. So
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: let me get all the facts of the Dallas stuff.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: So he makes you do a lot more research than
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: you want to. Yeah, he's going to make you do it.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: Because he's going to have his sheets.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. He's going to be dialed in. Yeah, he's
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: going to be dialed in.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: All right, man, these are quick answers. Get your popcorn ready. Quick,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: quick hitters. Get your popcorn ready. Funniest player you ever
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: played with?
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: You said funniest? Funniest. Me.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, Dwight Howard. He's funny?
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: Nick Young.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, got to be Nick Young.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: All of the goofies.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right. He had them quick. Right, okay.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Biggest trash talker? Deshaun Stevenson.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: Remember he said LeBron James was overrated. And then the
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: whole song was created by Jay-Z. And it was a
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: whole big battle.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Funniest person on Gil's Arena or one of your shows?
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Then it has to be Nick Young. Nick is funny, dude.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Gotta win something.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: That boy, you watch his live, that corner store.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: Corner store boy, yeah. Corner store Nick Young. Sounded like
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: a liquor store. Okay.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: Biggest headache on the show? Biggest headache?
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. It's probably me. Okay.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: I'm probably the biggest headache on the show.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: What's something people would be surprised to learn about you?
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: That I'm very, very researched.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: So I have the gift of knowing all the answers
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: and then just give you a little bit so.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: You can argue so I can get you again. So
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: I throw it live. I want you to jump for it.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Just say I'm wrong.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Just say I'm wrong.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Sorry to hit you. You don't give him the fool.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: Me, if I hear there's something over here, like anything,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: I'll call the person.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Hey, so why are you doing that? You hurt me.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: So I'll get the information. I'll know the information. And
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: then I'll just lobby it out there.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: So you can come back. Because my thing is, hey,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: you give me the information. I'll pretend that I found
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: it out some way. Or I'll just insinuate. And I'll
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: do it like that. Instead of, you know, this person.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: You know, so I do that a lot.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Biggest pet peeve. What's your biggest pet peeve?
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Being a troll. But hate to get trolled. You can't
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: be a troll out there. Then when people troll you,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: you block them.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Dive deep into the troll stuff.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: Like, understand, man, like, the internet is the internet.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: You ain't the only one. Like, there's entertainers that's just,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: they don't have the platform. So they're using your platform to, like,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: come on, we know this already.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: You still consider yourself a troll?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: This is called Get to the W. Who, what, and why, right?
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Who, what, and why. The W's. Who, what, and why.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: Who had the biggest impact on Gilbert Arenas' life that
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: the public would have no idea?
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: My high school coach, Howard Levine.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: When I was playing, I transferred over. And we're playing
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: against Van Nuys in the summer league. So it was
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: my first time trying to, you know, make the team.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: And it was just, we're just going to.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: See how it works out.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: What year were you?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: This is going into my sophomore year. So I set
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: the bench as a freshman on JV at Birmingham.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: So the school of cross was Grant.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: So I used to work out in the morning.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right. So I tried out, made the team
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: for summer league.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: So, you know, you know, having a little summer league
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: play and, We're playing against a dude named Isaiah Thomas.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: He's first team in the area.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: Goes to Van Nuys. I got 20 at the half.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: He pulls me at halftime.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Sits me down.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Say, you're going to be an NBA player.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: Nigga, this is my first time playing basketball, technically.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: You know, since, you know, for a while now.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to look at how many minutes I
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: got because I'm trying to get back in.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to eat. And he was like, oh, no, no, no.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: At the half?
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: At the half. He's, listen, he said, you're going to
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: be an NBA player. Like, I don't really know much, none.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: I just know I want to.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Get back in there.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: So you know how you're listening, but you're not listening?
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: He said, I need to talk.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: To your father so we can get you to the school.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah. Like, so I'm pissed off I can't go
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: out there and play no more. Right? They had the conversation.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: And then what happened?
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: The first day of school.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: So I transferred, going there. First day of school, sixth
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: period comes. He tells everybody, you know, basketball players, we're
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: going to line up. So, you know, you're looking and
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: seeing who all the players are.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: He said, told the shooting guard, hey, I think you
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: need to transfer.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: I don't want you on the team.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: Sinner, like, so these are seniors. Sinner, I think you're
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: going to be a bad influence on my new star player.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: He's going to be an NBA player.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: He just said, I'm sitting there like, No way. He's
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: talking about. He's like, yeah, so you need to transfer
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: so you can play this year.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: He said, Robert Lozano, you can transfer too or you
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: can play.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: With the guard.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: Who's going to be an NBA player?
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: Robert's like, oh, I just want to play basketball, right?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: So what happened was Robert, he was going to be
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: a senior. He's working with me, helping me, right? It's
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: like for a senior, the senior's supposed to be like,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: this is my time to shine.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not helping those.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Why am I helping you? You just.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: Took away my shooting guard and my center for me
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: to be good. But no, he actually embraced me, helped me.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: He was like my enforcer also. The coach said, I
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: need you to do you. I need you to blossom.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: I need you to boss him. So what happened is
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: he was like, oh, hey, I watched this NBA thing.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: This is called a step back. This is where you
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: go forward this way and you step back like an angle. Like, okay.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: So I got a little Jewish marriage. So we will go,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: and he'll.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: Show me the move, and then I'm going out there,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: you know, sitting there practicing it, right?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Saturday opens up the school. I want you to come
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: and shoot.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Come and shoot.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: Come work on the shot. Nutrition. Come and shoot. Before school, show.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: So we just program.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: If you feel like you don't want to be in class,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: tell me your stomach hurt.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Go to the nurse.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: Come here working the game. So I'm just sitting there
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: just getting this advanced training. Got the shooting machine. Come
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: on Saturday and Sunday.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: Instead of going to Venice Beach, come in here and
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: get your show. That's why I scaled so fast.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: What was his name?
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: What was his coach name?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Howard Levine.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Howard?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Howard Levine.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Where is he now?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: He ended retiring. He used to be an umpire for
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers, too, at the same time. And he was
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: a golf coach.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: So that's how he see me working out and opening
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: up the gym because golf, they train earlier in the morning.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: So he opened up the gym for me.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: But it was the things he did, like he really
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: believed this NBA bullshit. I'm like, all right, dog. So
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: I averaged 22. I averaged 22 that first year. My
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: first year on varsity. He went to the board and said, hey,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: we need to change the rules because we don't have
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: a shot clock here and all the teams are hurting.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: The NBA player that we have. It's like, NBA player?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: Yes, we have a guy who's an NBA player in
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: our league and they're holding the ball on him. And
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: Reuben Douglas at Burbank don't have none.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: They got to shoot the ball. We need the same thing.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: He have his 22 and look at the box scores
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: he showed the box scores some of the teams where
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: I got 27 it's 27 versus 29 so then going
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: into my junior year they put a shot clock in
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: and then yeah Last one.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: What's the biggest W you got that nobody knows about?
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: The biggest W?
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: In life. Win. Your biggest W.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: My biggest win. And unfortunately, it was the biggest loss.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: But it was the biggest win. It was being drafted.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: 31.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: I thought I was.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: Going to go top 14. which would have been a
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: four-year deal. But because I got drafted in the second round,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: I only had a two-year deal, which means I had
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: to work that much harder to try to get another
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: contract because my two.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Years was done.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: What ended up happening is because of me going in
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: the second round, I got paid. faster than the first
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: round so in reality me going second round going to
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: a team that didn't have a big man that made
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: my skill go up here i was the first one
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: to make an all-star game i was the first one
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: to win uh an award for most improved one uh
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: sophomore all-star um all-star mvp right i was the first
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: one with a shoe deal i think i was the
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: only one with a shoe deal I was the first
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: one on a video game, right?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: First one with a statue.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So the biggest win is
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: I became an actual star.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: All because I got drafted 31. You play a little football.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: So this is four down to get into the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: First down.
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  Speaker 3: What's one NBA opinion you have that you know will
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: get you in trouble?
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  Speaker 2: Putting Michael Jordan number two of all time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that will.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that will. You believe that? Hell yeah. Yeah. That's
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  Speaker 2: why I switch one, two, and three all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Because I was wondering, I was going to ask you that,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm like.
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  Speaker 3: You've always been asked that.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why I didn't ask. But he has switched
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: it around.
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  Speaker 2: No, exactly. I just mess with the audience.
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  Speaker 4: Because I'm one of the audiences that grew up You
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  Speaker 4: told us Michael Jordan was the greatest and this is
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: why you told us he was the greatest.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I got that information.
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  Speaker 4: Then my favorite player went from Penny Hardaway to Kobe Bryant.
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  Speaker 4: I know they don't have the same body type, so
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: now that I know what, so this is a very
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: different engine. Now, this engine is not like this, but
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: it has to work so much more to even get
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: in this zone.
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  Speaker 1: So the fact that he even got in this conversation,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: that's goat shit, right?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: Then LeBron James comes.
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  Speaker 4: You said he was Magic Johnson with Michael Jordan ability.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: What I watched was Magic Johnson with Michael Jordan ability.
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  Speaker 1: He did not disappoint whatsoever.
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  Speaker 4: There's nobody who can say in the 24 years that
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: they went into the season and he failed expectations that season.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: If you want to try to say championships is what failed.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: The 82 games plus doing what he did, that man
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: never failed not one time, not one season you can
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: say was bad.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: That's goat shit. Yeah.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: And when I say this, think about who's in the NBA.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: When we talk about top fives of anything, right, Kobe
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: Bryant's there.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: Tim Duncan.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neal. Allen Iverson. Dirk KG.
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  Speaker 4: You know he won MVPs while they was in their
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: prime being dominant champions. while they was fighting for who's
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: gonna be the king on top, nobody realized the young
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: boys winning the most valuable player.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: But they're trying to separate one, two, and three. And
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: they're already with negativity.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: So when you talk about our great players, we defend
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: the one we love and we target the one we
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: don't like. But when you listen to how we sound,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: we are forgetting the nigga's number two.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: Second down.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Second down. All right, second down.
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  Speaker 3: Who's the one player, or you basically just said, who's
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: the one player from your era you would never want
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: to guard again? Al Iverson.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go on the other side.
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  Speaker 4: Like, Kobe's 60. That's 60. He's going to talk you
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: through it. He's going to talk you through, oh, you
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: made a mistake.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: That's stupid.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: Allen Iverson just has this motor that just doesn't stop.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: The 60 feels like 60.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: And then don't celebrate. It's a horror 60 because he's
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: just all over the place. Third down, who's the most
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: misunderstood player in the NBA? today?
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: I want to say Kevin Durant, but I'll say probably Jokic.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: The reason I say Jokic is.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: He is great and he loves this game of basketball.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: He don't love what comes with it. That's the thing.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: I train.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: You can tell he trains all the time. He don't
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: like the media and the fans. That's what he don't
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: like about the game.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: After the championship, he's like, I'm about to go home
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: and play with my horses.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: I've been doing this for eight straight months. I want
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: to go play with the horses for a month to then.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: Have to come back. So people think, oh, he don't
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: even like basketball. You think a motherfucker averaging a triple
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: or double don't like basketball? You know what?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: How about this?
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: If he don't like basketball averaging triple-double and.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: You like it, and you love it, something says something about.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: You, that's it. You should do better. Fourth down. Fourth down.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: If you could change one thing about the NBA tomorrow,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: what would it be?
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, change one thing?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: One thing about the NBA.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: Salary cap.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: For the better or the worse.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: There shouldn't be no cap. Don't tell a nigga how
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: you should spend this money.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: Don't tell me how to spend my money. Broke boy
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: is going to get a better investor. This is a business, right?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: So if I'm the next and I want Elon Musk
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: to team up with me, God damn it, good luck.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: We buying everybody. You want a hundred million. You want
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: a hundred. And that's how it should be. Right?
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: But what a salary cap is, is we want to
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: be as fair as possible. So we're going to put
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: a cap where you can't spend as much money. That's
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: all a salary cap is. But treat it like the
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: shoe game. We know the shoes.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: Cost $ 200. There's a price.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: But that rebargain says they were $ 1, 500.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: Someone pays for it, right?
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Every time.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: They're going to pay for it.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: They're trying to stop people from paying for it. Knowing that.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: Steve Ballmer, if you didn't have it, if you didn't
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: have a salary cap, you know he's winning a championship.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: You know he's going to because he's what? A basketball
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: fan also.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: So as a basketball fan, he's going to go and
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: try to buy the best. It's going to be the
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: USA basketball team right there.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: Like the New York Yankees. They did it. It looks
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: like the 76ers have done it too.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they still handicap a little bit.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: But that's what I would change. I would change. Hey,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: who cares if the same team wins? Shit, Boston did it.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Lakers did it.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: Think about how Boston got all those championships. You ain't
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: looked at all. They don't even got no numbers. They
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: got to start putting three-digit numbers up there because they
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: done retired everybody from the 50s and 60s.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: Gil, tell everybody where they can find you, how they
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: can find you.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: They show them everywhere.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Just turn your phone on. That's why I'm at it.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: There you have it, man. Get to the point. What
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: I got, Gil. Yes. Man, we appreciate you, man.
• 1:27:48
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• 1:27:52
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• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: It's GTTP Pod. And if it's YouTube, GTTP Podcast. Gilbert Arenas.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Before we finish.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: Listen, this man got the up. He's him. Show these
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: people your shoes, man. Come on, man. Show them the
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: Jordan slippers.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: I changed. It don't match. It don't match. Listen.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: The Jordan slip slips, man. Come on.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: You on another level. This is what you, when you
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: turn 55, they give you these, they just come to
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: the mail.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: I know. Yeah.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: I got a few years. I know.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: You got the hook on.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: I know, right? I know. Right? Shout out to Gentry.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. How Gentry.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.