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Dishin' Dirt with Gary Pickren on The Market is Changing, Are you? · Dishin' Dirt with Gary Pickren

• 0:01
  Unknown: This is edition dirt with Gary pickin South Carolina's only podcast dedicated to the real estate agents craft. Hey, Greetings everyone from beautiful downtown Columbia as I'm sitting here the second week of March looking out my window at this beautiful blue sky and 70 degrees, which always makes me realize why I love living in South Carolina so much such a beautiful day outside.
• 0:21
  Unknown: This is Gary Pickering. I am the somewhat talented but mainly sarcastic host of dish and dirt with Gary Pickering. And I'm coming to you from downtown Columbia, Blair Cato caste lines office deep inside the office door clothes ready to start dishing dirt with you today. So today's show, we're going to talk about winners and losers.
• 0:42
  Unknown: Are you a winner? Or are you a loser, I hope you're not a loser. And I can tell you the way the industry seems to be going more of you seem to be winners these days and losers.
• 0:50
  Unknown: But we're going to talk about that whether you're a winner or loser and how to make sure that you remain a winner in this marketplace today. Second thing we're going to do is we're going to talk about a little bit about this fingerprinting. Nobody seems to know what to do with your fingerprinting requirements on renewing your license. So we'll look at that real quickly.
• 1:05
  Unknown: We're also going to talk about continuing education when you can get your classes and then we're going to move into something new on our episode is going to be our marketing minute, there's a little bit of advice on some things that you might want to look at doing while marketing in real estate.
• 1:18
  Unknown: And then of course, we'll end it with Gary's good news only. And there's nothing but good news out there, the numbers are starting to look outstanding for COVID. I truly believe the end is in sight. So that's what we're going to do today. Now let's jump right into winners and losers. And I hope that you're not a loser. I don't think y'all are but you're listening to the show. So if you're listening to show it already makes you a winner. But let's talk about winners and losers. Now, back in May of 2020, when we were in the midst of the hardest part of the pandemic, my financial advisor called me one day and said, We got some tough decisions to make, you know, where do we want to be in this market, he told me he thought the market was about to bottom out and we need to go heavy in a particular sector. I point really didn't care, we were all just in survival mode, whether we were trying to keep the farm open, or we were just trying to stay home and stay away from people to stay healthy. So my financial advisor and I talked, we made the decision to go pretty heavy in that particular sector. And then my law, which I typically don't have luck when it comes to these matters, the day we made that decision was the day that the market had bottomed out. And then it began to rise. So I was able to be a financial winner in those investments because I was lucky to pick the day that the market absolutely hit the bottom number. So in every financial crisis, we all know there's winners and losers. If you've ever watched the show billions, one of the main things you find out in that show is that the main character made his billions of dollars because the result of 911. So in every crisis, whether it's 911, or whether it is the pandemic or is the recession that we suffered in the late 2000s, there's always people who win and people who lose. So let's first of all, let's look at some losers and winners and our pandemic. So, without a doubt, probably in my opinion, one of the biggest winners of the pandemic was zoom. Zoom has become a verb. People did not know what zoom was 1314 months ago. Now when people want to do face to face instead of saying we're going to FaceTime now oftentimes and say, let's have a zoom meeting. I think their numbers went from 10 million users a day to somewhere in a couple 100 million users a day.
• 3:16
  Unknown: In fact, everybody zooms now.
• 3:20
  Unknown: That's how we conduct our continuing education classes.
• 3:22
  Unknown: It's how we conduct meetings, a lot of things that we do are now on zoom. And so they are a huge winner of the pandemic. The second big winner would obviously be streaming services, because everybody was locked down at home and people were afraid to go out Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, you name it, the services skyrocketed. I went from having I think we had satellite at the time to now we have Hulu, we have Netflix, we got prom we have them all.
• 3:46
  Unknown: grocery stores obviously benefited as well because people simply weren't going out anymore. They were staying home and having two teenage kids, I can see the painful grocery bills. I know a lot of you that have teenage kids early teenage boys in high school, your grocery bill probably doubled or tripled as well. But the biggest winner in all of this financial crisis in this pandemic that we had was an unlikely group.
• 4:07
  Unknown: Toilet paper manufacturers.
• 4:11
  Unknown: Never in my lifetime, did I ever think that Sharman would be the United States national currency, nor did I think we would have black market Charmin or that we would have Facebook groups that would tell you when toilet paper was coming out, I literally remember somebody on Facebook going they have toilet paper at Sam's and then you run to Sam's and there's a line out the door to go pick up toilet paper. I still have yet to this day to understand what toilet paper and COVID had to do with each other.
• 4:35
  Unknown: But what out who were the big losers. The big losers obviously was the service industry.
• 4:42
  Unknown: Anything related to service.
• 4:42
  Unknown: People were just avoiding because they didn't want people to be around people. They don't want people in their houses.
• 4:46
  Unknown: Obviously hotels, people were not traveling. So every hotel, their numbers were way down.
• 4:53
  Unknown: restaurants. It became almost a patriotic thing to do was to eat out on a friday saturday night and eat out man. You You pick it up curbside, which was actually one of the great things that came out of COVID was the ability to pick up curbside dining, which we really didn't have in Colombia. But restaurants boy did they get hard hit hard people who worked at restaurants, waiters cooks.
• 5:11
  Unknown: They all really took it hard on the on the chain. And luckily for Colombia, most of our restaurants have been able to come back. But we did lose a lot of really good restaurants like solstice, we lost Solstice up in the northeast, and I know in Greenville, they've lost some restaurants as well. barbers in jams hairstylist, all those were hard because people were going months upon months without getting haircuts weren't going to gyms anymore, which, ironically, was one of the dumbest things because people that were unhealthy and obese, that was one of the biggest factors and gems would have helped fix that. So I think we'll see it during this, that a lot of the decisions that we made early on whether it was a lockdown or closing schools completely were probably bad decisions in the end. But people were making decisions on the best they could obviously one of the worst losers, the biggest losers, I'd say would be airlines, nobody was traveling for the longest time. And if you traveled all last summer, you would get on a plane with very few people. But even if you're playing was packed, there were very few routes that were even being offered. So now let's look at companies that learn how to pivot. Because in any industry as that industry or as the market is changing all that industry, those who don't change with the market go out of business, those who pivot, it reminds me of the friends episode where Ross kept saying pivot pivot when he was trying to move the couches were the funniest friends episodes if you're a white set show from the 90s. But those companies that actually pivoted Those were the companies who actually made it work. Think about restaurants and how they pivoted, they quickly pivoted and offered curbside dining. And a lot of places where they couldn't give you curbside alcohol would give you the mixers. I remember buying Margarita mixes at Mexican restaurants so that we could have a margarita. So those restaurants pivoted now did they were they huge winners in this?
• 6:48
  Unknown: Probably not. But what they did was it allowed them to stay in business with companies pivot, they can go from losing to hopefully surviving or breaking even. So how did these companies went? How did the Netflix Netflix of the world and the others win? Well, it's because they did something they had something that people wanted, something that people needed, and something that people could not do by themselves. So what was that? Well, first of all, had something that people wanted, people wanted entertainment, they wanted to forget, they wanted to put their head in the sand and forget this whole thing happened. Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, they all provided entertainment. They also were companies out there that provided things that people needed grocery stores, they provided food, we still had to eat, regardless what was going on in the pandemic. And so we were able to get to rest to grocery stores and buy food. And then the people that could do things that we couldn't do ourselves with zoom meetings because we could not meet face to face, as a group as a church board as a neighborhood association, whatever it was, nobody can meet face to face. In fact, we're even doing zoom meetings for court now. It's really incredible stuff. And so as you can see providing something that people wanted people needed and people could not do themselves. So that's how I believe that real estate was obviously a huge winner. And all of this you all as real estate agents were huge winners, y'all were able to provide something people wanted, which was bigger houses because they were now working from home. They were staying home. So they went to new houses, they were able to ride something that people wanted. Also people needed new housing because their three bedroom house no longer work for them. When they had two children in school online, they had nowhere for them to work as well as their kids go to school. So they needed a bigger house for the play room, or that fourth bedroom. And it was something that people couldn't do themselves because people were not allowing people to go into houses back when COVID first happened. Remember, we It was very strict on people being allowed in your house, when it first came out. So people could not get into houses, you could go as a real estate agent and preview a house and show them via FaceTime or zoom meeting what the house look like.
• 8:49
  Unknown: So you were able to go ahead and do things that they were unable to do for themselves. So when I look back at how real estate pivoted and how they became a winner, you looked at things such as the safety protocols, the face mask that people were wearing, and how's the hand sanitizers, the fact that agents could preview houses while your client said at home, you can walk the house with a pad and show them everything you can provide them information about markets and trends. And so you were able to do things that made you a winner. And luckily, so far we have been winners. Now part of that also is we've been benefit of very low interest rates, which we're now starting to go up but it's not really having an adverse effect on the market. So during this crisis, a lot of you all became winners, by happenstance, some of you became winners by positive actions you took and some of y'all did not. There was a huge disconnect amongst some real estate agents. And even those that became winners somehow did it without even knowing how they did it. So let's look at the big disconnect and see how do you become a winner in the market? How do you stay a winner because obviously interest rates are now over 3%.
• 9:53
  Unknown: So how is that gonna affect it?
• 9:53
  Unknown: your broker and other agents can share with you a multitude of ideas for marketing and things of that nature, I'm not here to tell you this is the magic marketing an idea. And this is how you do it and you're going to be successful. I have my ideas on how to do it, we'll share those in other podcasts.
• 10:08
  Unknown: But that's not the point of this podcast today, the point of this podcast is to talk about the main problem, which is preventing you from becoming a winner and staying a winner. For most of you, most agents, it's not that you can't come up with a good idea, or an agent won't tell you a good idea, or you can't copy a good idea from another market or another agent is that most of you wonder the then what. And that's not an issue just related to real estate agents. That's an issue related to any business and anybody who tries to market, a marketing company could come in and say, hey, we've got this great idea on you marketing it, and you hand them the keys of the car, they just don't know how to drive the car. And so what we need to do today is talk about the then what what do you have to do to take what people tell you what your bigs offer, your brokers in charge offer you and try to implement this into a viable action. And the way to do that is very simple. It's called planning. So let's talk about planning for a second. I'm not huge sports analogy, fan, but I think sports actually works in this scenario. So every game has to have its plan. And when there's no plan, there's no success. And that's the same for you in real estate, while you're trying to navigate yourself through the ending of the pandemic, because it is truly ending, I believe, as we enter this new phase with higher interest rates, we're going to have inflation, Congress just basically gave away $2 trillion.
• 11:31
  Unknown: Without how we're not gonna have inflation of that. I don't know how anybody thinks that we're already seeing it at the gas pump gases already up to 250 since January, so things are changing, and they're changing quickly. So if you're not willing to pivot, adapt and plan in this market as we change out of the pandemic, you may have been successful all through the pandemic because of happenstance, low interest rates. Now is the time you've really got to sit down and figure out what am I going to do next. And when I look at sports analogies, let's look at Clemson football. I am not a Clemson fan. So don't think I'm sitting here praising Clemson right now.
• 12:04
  Unknown: I'm a game cop and I have suffered through this whole Clemson thing. But do you think that Clemson football became successful without Dabo Swinney coming up with a plan? And do you think he came up with a plan before setting his goals? Or do you think he set goals and plans and a particular order? I personally think he said his goals first, and then he set his plan. So what were Clemson's goals or what are their goals?
• 12:29
  Unknown: Well, first of all, national championship is probably not the first goal. That's the final goal. In order for Clemson to what a national championship, there's other goals along the way that they have to meet.
• 12:36
  Unknown: Whether this is Clemson or Carolina, football doesn't matter. You have to win all of your games, or almost all of your games, you may be able to lose one, you've got to win your conference champion, your regular season conference championship, if you're Clemson, you got to win the ACC regular season championship if your South Carolina union to win the SEC east. After that, you've got to win your conference championships game, you can't get to a national championship in most cases unless you win the SEC championship or you win the acc championship game. So that's another goal, then you have to win, you have to be invited to the playoffs, then the next goal is you have to have a goal of winning the first round playoff.
• 13:10
  Unknown: And then your final goal is to win the national championship.
• 13:13
  Unknown: So there are a lot of steps along the line along the way that you have to complete. So when you start thinking of goals, my goal isn't I'm going to sell 100 houses for 2021. It has to be an incremental goal.
• 13:27
  Unknown: What is my goal this week? What is my goal next month? What's my goal for the summer? What's my goal going to be for the year? I think a lot of people mess that up in the fact that I think they just set this ultimate goal of winning a national championship.
• 13:38
  Unknown: They don't set the goals along the way to get there. So the second thing you have to look at is your goal realistic. I don't think Dabo Sweeney is setting a goal of winning a national championship is unrealistic. I mean, they don't really play anybody either the ACC sorry, Clemson fans ahead, take a shot at you. But is it realistic for Shane beaver to say his goal this year is to win the national championship? No, I think a more realistic goal for him is to win more games that he loses. He goes seven and five. I think it's an absolute win. Amazing season for him. So now the Dabo or Shane has set their goals.
• 14:10
  Unknown: Does it in there? No, it does not in there, it now turns to planning does Dabo Sweeney sit down today and start planning out that national championship game and how he's going to run his offense and defense? No, his plan starts much earlier than that. It starts with recruiting.
• 14:23
  Unknown: before he even starts thinking about a national championship game. He has to start recruiting and recruiting this year is keeping the players from going to the pro keeping players from entering the transfer portal and leaving to go to different school and recruiting players to replace the seniors and the juniors left already. So his planning starts way beyond and way before we even start talking about the football season, then he has to start planning his summer practice. Then he plans his fall practices and what he's trying to accomplish what type of changes in his offense or defense he's going to make then he has to start planning for each of the 12 individual games that they will play Then he may start planning ahead a little bit for the acc championship game, recognizing who his competition might be, then he's going to start planning for what he's looking to put plan in the future for the national championship playoffs, and then perhaps then he'll start looking at the national championship game. But all that planning starts today and doesn't start the week he gets to the national championship game he starting before he even starts playing.
• 15:23
  Unknown: So he's setting out both short term long term goals, but also short term plans and long term plans he's starting today. So how does that affect you as a real estate agent? Well, as a real estate agent, or looking at this completely different most real estate agents I talk with, they'll tell me what their goals are, I'm gonna do 100 units, or I'm gonna do 57 buyer sides this year, you've got to start looking at your goals in lineal sense, starting with what the goal is this week, this month, this season this year, you also have to start looking at your plan of how you're going to get to those goals. So the first thing you need to do is set out what are your goals? And I would not start with what is your 2021 goal? Or what is your goal now that the marketplace is getting ready to go through a major transition? Your goal should be is how do I get to the summer?
• 16:07
  Unknown: What is my first goal to get through March, April? And May, then what my second goal may be is alright, the summer and summer months of June, July and August, what are my goals is going to be for that, then what are my goals is going to look like going into the fall, we're going to have a tremendously different fall because kids will be going back to school. We're going to have colleges reopening we should have college football.
• 16:27
  Unknown: So how does my fall look in terms of my goals? And then what is my winter going to look like?
• 16:33
  Unknown: What's my Christmas going to look like a completely different Christmas will probably happen this year? Because as people get vaccinated, we'll have people traveling again, going into Christmas having Christmas get togethers in the houses. So how is that going to affect people's housing needs. So that is the first thing is to set out your goals. And that sense, now are your goals should your goals rather be set based on units, I'm going to do 50 closings?
• 16:55
  Unknown: Well, that's great if all 50 of them are half a million dollars.
• 16:58
  Unknown: But whatever it is, of all 50 of them are $2,000 properties. So a very good goal. So in addition, to look at your goal in terms of units, you need to look at your goals in terms of dollars, quite frankly, I would even care about units when we set out our goals at the farm. We don't do it based on closings, we do it based on dollar values. Because if I do 5000 closings and make x, but I have to do it, but I can do 1000 closing and make x times two, I'd rather do less closings and make more money. So that's what you really need to be looking at is dollars, not just unit. So how much money do I want to make before the end of the summer? How much made all make for the end of the spring?
• 17:35
  Unknown: Actually, how much money do I want to make during the summer?
• 17:38
  Unknown: How much money do I want to make during the fall and set out your goals and the most important thing to you which is dollars dollars are more important than in terms of unit soul? What are your dollar goals this week, this month, the next two months for the summer, have that in front of you focus on that and have that be your driving force.
• 17:59
  Unknown: And that's very important because I think when you have dollars in front of you and my goal, and may is I want to make$10,000 in commissions, you have a true goal. That means a financial sense to you saying that in May I want to do three closings, it just doesn't equate to the same number for me, I don't know that I'm as driven by I want to do three seller sides or three buyer sides. As I am I want to collect $10,000 in commission for my pocket. Once you have these goals set out, then you have to really start looking at your plan is my goals first of all legitimate so that I can even enter a plan. So for instance, if in 2020, in the greatest real estate market we've had in years, I only sold five houses?
• 18:41
  Unknown: Is my goal of doing 100 even legitimate for 2021 fans are probably no, I'm not going to go from five in 2020 to 2021, two and 100. So first of all, am I being honest with myself? And is my goal, even legitimate? After I'm honest with myself, and I realized whether my goal is honest or not either readjust my goals, or I'm ready to move forward.
• 19:04
  Unknown: The second part which is planning, these numbers aren't just going to fall in your lap.
• 19:09
  Unknown: I think a lot of disconnect, our agents say well, my goal this year is 25 closings, and then I say okay, what's your plan to get there? What do you mean?
• 19:14
  Unknown: Well, you did 10 last year, you're gonna go to 25 this year?
• 19:17
  Unknown: What are you going to do different? Well, I'm just gonna keep working hard. Everybody's working hard. That's not an answer. So your question to yourself has to be what am I going to do different? What am I going to do? In addition, what am I going to do better? That's going to make these additional closings come to me, it's not going to just fall in your lap because you want to have it happen to you make a goal to meet people make goals that are not even viable in the first place, but then they do nothing to get there. So what you need to do first of all, is look at your past experiences. What have you done in your past past year past month, past six months that was successful? And what I mean successful is based on return on investment, how much time did you spend to cultivate that one closing or that one unit or At$5,000, how long did it take me?
• 20:00
  Unknown: Was it worth my time? So you need to look at everything that you've done in 2020, maybe even back to 2019. And see if it was successful. For those things that were successful. Look at those things and see how I can make them even more successful, can I improve on them? Because good people in your market are every day trying to improve what they're doing. And if you're not improving what you were doing to get your business, somebody else will no come and take your so what I had in 19 and 20, that was successful. How can I improve on that? What did I do in 2020? that perhaps wasn't successful? I might like being part of some type of organization or some referral group. But if I wasn't, if I'm not getting enough closings out of it for the amount of time that I'm putting into it, is it worth it? Does it have value?
• 20:47
  Unknown: Was there any value which brings me to point three was what I doing too expensive? If I am spending $10,000 on a marketing piece that results in one closing that nets me $3,000 in fees? That's not work? That's not working? For me? That's too expensive. It's not successful?
• 21:02
  Unknown: How about if I spend $10,000 on a marketing campaign that nets me $10,000? in fees, is that successful? No, that's not successful. It's too expensive.
• 21:12
  Unknown: It's not working. But how about if I spent $10,000 on a marketing thing that resulted in$100,000 in fees? Now, that might be something that's not too expensive? The other thing that agents often forget is Tom has value. It's not just how much it costs you How much time did you spend doing it? If you have to be part of a referral group three hours every single week for 50 weeks. And the net result to you is two closings that netted you $6,000 was three hours times 50 weeks, 150 hours worth that? Maybe it was to you, not to me, but you have to look and say how much time and how much money I'm spending on it.
• 21:49
  Unknown: Next, you have to look at new targets. Are there new targets in this market that I can hit?
• 21:52
  Unknown: We don't have foreclosure properties? We don't have a lot of PCs in the military. So what are my new targets? And what's my likelihood of success in getting those targets? What is my broker telling me about new opportunities? Listen to your broker, the reason your brokers a broker because they know this stuff? Do they have other opportunities that I am not looking at? Do I have past clients past circle of influence a new circle of influence?
• 22:15
  Unknown: There's a million answers here million different answers that are different for everybody. The point being is you need to sit down in a quiet place with a pen in hand paper in front of you and write down where these opportunities are, are they going to be too expensive? And time? Are they gonna be too expensive and money? And what is my true likelihood that I can do it. So in conclusion, we know from studies that people who plan their days are typically more successful at their job than people who are chronically late or miss deadlines to get appointments, overbooked, their schedule work late into the night, and they're less successful, they struggle because they don't have planning. If you want to be successful in 2021 post pandemic, you have got to set goals. You've got to set plans.
• 22:57
  Unknown: And you've got to be willing to pivot your business today and throughout this plant. So I hope that helps you guys understand the change in the pandemic that we're about to see and how important it is you to plan ahead. Oh, real quick update on a couple of things classes for MCA and see he can you can go to our website at Blair cato.com.
• 23:18
  Unknown: You can sign up for the realtor code of ethics are March 16. The core class which are required to take the MC class March 23, the broker in charge class is going to be offered only one time this year is April 27. These classes are all offered by the Central Carolina realtors Association and are free to its members.
• 23:35
  Unknown: However, if you're not a member, you still can sign up and take the class. I think they charge you $50 I am the guest speaker on all of those classes, check back periodically we will be adding more classes along the way. As to fingerprinting, I still have no update. I understand there's a lot of cooks in the kitchen over there trying to come up with the answer. Soon as I have an answer for my source over there. I'll let you know what the fingerprinting is going to be. Now let's roll into our marketing minute. So let's talk about Instagram. I know a lot of y'all are using Instagram, a lot of us very well a lot of you don't use it very well at all.
• 24:07
  Unknown: And talking to my marketing director, Claudia, she brought up something that everybody should be doing in our business, your Instagram page should be set up as a business page and not as an individual page. And there's apparently if you go into city settings, there's an easy way to switch it over to a business page. Now the reason you want to move it to a business page is you can track the analytics. When you track the analytics, you can see people that are looking at your page, how often if they're watching the hall engagement or they are moving out. But it also brings us to the most important point is to quit posting so much in Instagram and start using stories, more stories of the little circles at the top of the page. And what we're able to see is that more and more people are not rate flipping, flipping through the post, they are actually is too much noise.
• 24:49
  Unknown: They're actually going to the stories and clicking on the stories. If your setup is a business page, you can go through there and you can look at the analytics and see how many people are looking at your story. How long they're staying on the story, how they're watching the whole thing if they're coming back and watch it more, so it gives you more engagement. So look at your Instagram, decide if it's best for you to move it over to a business page and to start tracking your views by looking at Instagram stories. If you have any questions on how to use Instagram successfully, contact Claudia, my office you can be reached at Claudia at Blair cato.com. We're more than happy to help all the real estate agents with their marketing needs. And that's our marketing then. And now to Gary's good news. Okay, so the State House South Carolina just pass a fantastic new law. This is a law that says you can't slow drive in the left hand lane. Now supposedly, if you are called slow driving in the left hand lane on the interstate, they can find you or give you up to 30 days in jail. Now personally, I don't think that's fair enough.
• 25:45
  Unknown: I think these people should be publicly shamed and have to wear a T shirt that says I'm the left lane slow driver. I don't know something to get him to stop it.
• 25:53
  Unknown: origination volume hits 15 year plus record, according to blacknight. They report that a record breaking $4.3 trillion in mortgages was originated in 2020, with 2.8 trillion in refinances. They also which was also an all time high, at 1.5 trillion and purchases largest annual volume since 2005.
• 26:14
  Unknown: According to Yahoo. finance's they said that the rising mortgage rates will not derail the red hot housing market. They said that you're seeing rates starting to rise, but thus far it does not appear housing has been thrown much off of his stride. The consumer has certainly lost some of its buying power in the last couple of weeks, but still is doing pretty well. Now there's a new possible medication that can actually treat Coronavirus.
• 26:35
  Unknown: Instead of thinking this is a vaccine think of this on the same lines as a Tamiflu. They just announced I read this on Fox News at the first stage testing of the experimental COVID-19 pill and I'll spell it for you it's mo l in up ir a V iR, which is a Merc and Ridgeback Biotherapeutics medicine is showing promising signs of effectiveness in reducing the virus and patients.
• 27:00
  Unknown: According to Dr. Marc Siegel, he says it may be the holy grail on this because it's just studied in two phase trials. It literally stopped the virus in his tracks. And there wasn't any virus found in the patients that were studied. This drug obviously would be an at home remedy. It would be a five day treatment, very similar to the Tamiflu to stop the virus from reproducing before causing major damage. Siegel said that therapeutics could be on the market as little as four or five months. I think this is bigger news in the vaccine because if you knew that you were catching he caught the virus, all you had to do was take five days of treatment you would not die. I think it would be make it similar to the flu. And I think that is fantastic. And other quick news, Marty mcherry, who is the doctor from Tom Hopkins who's predicting that the virus is on its way out, said that the vaccinating of older and vulnerable people means death will plummet soon because as cases linger amongst the younger people, they're more likely to be asymptomatic infections or mild non fatal disease infections. He said this week alone. 10 states had days with zero das, and another 10 average less than five days. So he said we're definitely seeing progress. Dr. Scott Gottlieb says it will cross the 60% of those over age 65 vaccinated and over 70% of those over 75 in the days to come. The overall vulnerability of the population to COVID is simply declining, giving more chance to re engage and things we value we need to look at the vulnerability of the population and measuring the risk not the prevalence numbers.
• 28:22
  Unknown: On Sunday, we had 40,336 new cases in the United States. The last time it was this low was at the end of September, we only had 682 deaths in the United States also, on the same level as the end of September, in cases in South Carolina continued to be around the 500 to 600 range, which is about an 80 to 80 to 90% decrease from just a few weeks ago.
• 28:47
  Unknown: And that is Gary's good news.
• 28:47
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