Latest / The Sean O'Connell Show / Spencer Warne on the World Cup, USMNT 4-1 win in Friday's opener, Cape Verde's draw with tournament favorite Spain + more
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's hit the be Sclaire. You tune to the Sean
- 0:04Speaker 1: O'Connell Show for the Murdoch Chevrolet Studio of DESPN seven
- 0:09Speaker 1: hundred at ninety two one am a seventy fifth minutes.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Spain and Cape verd are still noted up at zero
- 0:24Speaker 1: nil nil the surprise of many watching this twenty twenty
- 0:29Speaker 1: six North American World Cup. Joining us to talk about that,
- 0:32Speaker 1: and of course, the US men's national team strong debut
- 0:36Speaker 1: the gov Spencer warn and this conversation brought to you
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- 0:49Speaker 1: day full of them here on a Monday. Gove, Welcome
- 0:52Speaker 1: to the show.
- 0:53Speaker 2: How are you, sir, very well man? How are you
- 0:57Speaker 2: you know?
- 0:57Speaker 1: I am For the next couple of weeks, I am
- 1:00Speaker 1: a football, a soccer die hard. Much like the Olympics,
- 1:04Speaker 1: I become just completely enamored with it and then I'll
- 1:08Speaker 1: forget about it for four years. But I love I
- 1:11Speaker 1: love these I love what we're seeing so far, and
- 1:14Speaker 1: obviously that love is strengthened by the fact that the
- 1:17Speaker 1: US men's national team came out strong with four to
- 1:20Speaker 1: one victory over Paraguay. Uh, how should I be viewing that?
- 1:25Speaker 1: Spencer as the as the resident experts who actually knows
- 1:30Speaker 1: what he was watching? Is that as strong of a
- 1:33Speaker 1: win as it looked like?
- 1:35Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I was really really impressed by them. I've
- 1:39Speaker 2: been impressed with the US over recent months and Mauricio Pochettino.
- 1:46Speaker 2: They just it was a bit of a rocky start
- 1:47Speaker 2: under his stewardship, but they've they've settled into a formation.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Everybody seems to know what the their job and their
- 1:55Speaker 2: energy on Friday night against Paraguay was was phenomenal. Well,
- 1:59Speaker 2: Thursday and sorry was phenomenal and well deserved, very excited.
- 2:05Speaker 2: It was really important that the host nations got off
- 2:09Speaker 2: to a good start, I feel, to create the excitement,
- 2:13Speaker 2: and both Mexico and more so the US did that
- 2:19Speaker 2: with a plump and so it's very very exciting. It's
- 2:22Speaker 2: been a really really outstanding start to the tournament as well.
- 2:25Speaker 1: So all of us uninitiated were like, Okay, that's a
- 2:30Speaker 1: four one is a big win, but how good is
- 2:33Speaker 1: Paraguay Because they don't have the name recognition of a
- 2:36Speaker 1: Spain of a France, of a Germany, of a Brazil
- 2:39Speaker 1: or an Argentina. But when we're setting the level, when
- 2:43Speaker 1: we're checking the level of Paraguay, as people have not
- 2:45Speaker 1: watched Paraguay, where do they belong in those conversations.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Well, I always felt like Paraguay would struggle to get
- 2:52Speaker 2: out of this group. I think Australia are much like
- 2:55Speaker 2: the US, incredible athletes and just work incredibly hard like
- 3:01Speaker 2: the US did. We already saw that and then we
- 3:03Speaker 2: saw Australia do that against Turkey, which was a surprise
- 3:08Speaker 2: for me because I thought Turk would be the ones
- 3:12Speaker 2: that would be top in the group. So yes, when
- 3:15Speaker 2: it comes to Paraguay, I always felt like they would
- 3:17Speaker 2: struggle to get out of the group. But it's the
- 3:20Speaker 2: World Cup. Anything can happen, and the US put down
- 3:24Speaker 2: the market. I felt like the pressure was on the
- 3:26Speaker 2: US to get off to a good start in front
- 3:28Speaker 2: of their own fans, in front of seventy thousand people,
- 3:31Speaker 2: you know, really just cheering, and you know, obviously it
- 3:34Speaker 2: was a home crowd, So the pressure was all on
- 3:37Speaker 2: the US and I felt they dealt with it brilliantly
- 3:41Speaker 2: and it only bodes well for the World Cup. When
- 3:44Speaker 2: the host nations do well, it creates an atmosphere, a
- 3:49Speaker 2: magic that the whole country can get behind, and for
- 3:54Speaker 2: the folks that are just like you watch it every
- 3:56Speaker 2: four years, it can leave a lasting impression when you're
- 4:00Speaker 2: hosting it and doing such a good job in hosting
- 4:03Speaker 2: this wonderful tournament.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Malagan with his brace in the first game and it gets,
- 4:10Speaker 1: you know, the spotlight shined on him. There's a lot
- 4:14Speaker 1: of that conversation is, hey, you know he chose to
- 4:16Speaker 1: play for Team USA. He could have been with I mean,
- 4:19Speaker 1: I think he was eligible to play for England, right,
- 4:22Speaker 1: He's also eligible to play for Nigeria. I don't know
- 4:25Speaker 1: how appealing Nigeria would be for as a you know,
- 4:28Speaker 1: as someone who's trying to compete in this World Cup.
- 4:31Speaker 1: I don't know what the the pros and cons are
- 4:34Speaker 1: of competing for Nigeria. But would he have been in
- 4:37Speaker 1: serious consideration for the England squad had he elected to
- 4:41Speaker 1: represent England?
- 4:43Speaker 2: Well, and England actually struggle for number nine. Obviously, Harry
- 4:47Speaker 2: Kane is Harry Kane. He's a wonderful player. But after that,
- 4:51Speaker 2: I mean, there's some good players, but he has certainly
- 4:53Speaker 2: been in the you know, been looked at, particularly because
- 4:57Speaker 2: he's playing is football in Europe as well or ready
- 5:01Speaker 2: maybe he would have got a move to England because
- 5:03Speaker 2: he chose to play for England. It might have been
- 5:06Speaker 2: an option to have a homegrown player, which is a
- 5:11Speaker 2: thing in Europe that you need. Well is everywhere, but
- 5:15Speaker 2: they are at a premium, especially ones with the perform
- 5:19Speaker 2: on the international stage. So yes, I think it might
- 5:22Speaker 2: have been on the outside looking in. I think his
- 5:24Speaker 2: home is definitely with the US and that's probably why
- 5:28Speaker 2: he chose that. And you're seeing the benefits of that.
- 5:31Speaker 2: The young players or the guys that are in their
- 5:33Speaker 2: mid to late twenties that have been around the squad
- 5:36Speaker 2: for a fair few years, they just look accustomed, especially
- 5:40Speaker 2: to this tournament.
- 5:44Speaker 1: The gov Spencer one our guest here talking to some
- 5:46Speaker 1: World Cup soccer here on the Sean O'Connell show. These
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- 5:52Speaker 1: And look, I love picking the brain of soccer die
- 5:54Speaker 1: hards because you know, I get to learn. And I
- 5:57Speaker 1: watched that game and I saw the early score and
- 6:00Speaker 1: then I saw the rest of it and I'm like, okay,
- 6:02Speaker 1: I think that makes sense to me. I think I
- 6:05Speaker 1: know why that goal came to fruition, but it's just
- 6:09Speaker 1: I think it's not and I know so if I'm
- 6:12Speaker 1: asking you, what was it that the US men's national
- 6:16Speaker 1: team did against Paraguay that led to those four goals?
- 6:19Speaker 1: Did they set them up similarly? Did they Was it
- 6:21Speaker 1: the ball movement? Was it the possession in their own zone?
- 6:24Speaker 1: What was it that allowed them to be so efficient
- 6:27Speaker 1: and so proficient with their scoring in a four to
- 6:30Speaker 1: one start to this World Cup.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Well, first and foremost, I think they fed off the crowds,
- 6:35Speaker 2: the noise that the fans created. It was it was
- 6:38Speaker 2: a really wonderful to you know, kept turning the TV
- 6:40Speaker 2: up so I could hear everything. And I think they
- 6:43Speaker 2: really feed off of that. And I think Americans in general,
- 6:46Speaker 2: you know, to make a sweeping statement when they get
- 6:48Speaker 2: the crowd on site and they are die hard fans
- 6:52Speaker 2: and well educated at this point, you know, you feed
- 6:55Speaker 2: off of that energy. It was the energy of the
- 6:59Speaker 2: players as well. They moved the ball quickly, They were
- 7:01Speaker 2: building purposely when they had the ball, and when they
- 7:05Speaker 2: were getting turnovers deep in their own half, they were
- 7:08Speaker 2: moving the ball quickly, forward, hitting Paraguay on the counter attack,
- 7:12Speaker 2: and I just felt like the defensive shape was very
- 7:15Speaker 2: good and gave the US a platform to build from,
- 7:20Speaker 2: which was really important. Able to break up play and
- 7:24Speaker 2: let your attacking players, your flair players do the business.
- 7:27Speaker 2: And we saw that with Christin Pulisik obviously goes off
- 7:31Speaker 2: at halftime, but the first forty five minutes that he played,
- 7:34Speaker 2: it was almost unplayable. They couldn't deal with his pace
- 7:38Speaker 2: and him being direct and then providing opportunities for his
- 7:44Speaker 2: attacking corps, which it was just an awesome first forty
- 7:47Speaker 2: five minutes. That's where the damage was done.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Next up is the Australia team that you already mentioned,
- 7:53Speaker 1: also holding three points after they beat Turkey A. What's
- 7:58Speaker 1: that match going to look like for the US men's
- 7:59Speaker 1: national thing.
- 8:01Speaker 2: It's going to be a physical battle. What they what
- 8:04Speaker 2: Australia lack in technical ability, they make up for in
- 8:08Speaker 2: fitness levels. Excuse me, They're going to be a real
- 8:13Speaker 2: tough and a different type of issue for for the US.
- 8:18Speaker 2: They're probably gonna have to be a little bit more patient.
- 8:21Speaker 2: They're more than likely going to have the majority of
- 8:25Speaker 2: possession because under Pochettino, he likes to have the ball,
- 8:30Speaker 2: but there's they are going to have to be patient.
- 8:32Speaker 2: It's going to be a real physical, bruising battle. As
- 8:35Speaker 2: we know with the Aussies if you've ever watched their
- 8:38Speaker 2: play cricket or rugby, they are Yeah, they are competitors
- 8:43Speaker 2: and as I said, with the the maybe less or
- 8:48Speaker 2: lesser amount of technical ability, where a lot of their
- 8:52Speaker 2: players are still playing well, some of their players are
- 8:55Speaker 2: still playing in Australia, and the US having the luxury
- 9:00Speaker 2: having the majority of their squad playing in Europe and
- 9:04Speaker 2: around the world, there's a little bit more no how,
- 9:07Speaker 2: but I'm excited for this matchup up in Seattle. It's
- 9:11Speaker 2: a good crowd, wonderful stadium and again I think I
- 9:16Speaker 2: have to give props to all the nations that are hosting.
- 9:20Speaker 2: These stadiums look wonderful and yes, maybe there's a couple
- 9:23Speaker 2: of empty seats here and there, but that's just you know,
- 9:26Speaker 2: me having a little dig at FIFA there with the
- 9:29Speaker 2: pricing and whatnot. Well, that's been a wonderful occasion so far.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that because
- 9:35Speaker 1: obviously you know so far when Team USA is playing
- 9:38Speaker 1: is going to be fulling loud and crazy. But we
- 9:41Speaker 1: saw a couple of games where you know, it seems
- 9:44Speaker 1: like the prohibitive pricing maybe emptied some seats that otherwise
- 9:48Speaker 1: would have been full. And that very much is a
- 9:50Speaker 1: FIFA thing. That very much is a pricing thing in
- 9:52Speaker 1: my opinion, And we talked about it in a run
- 9:55Speaker 1: up to this World Cup, how insane it is to
- 9:57Speaker 1: price your fans out of attendance, said this ultimate celebration
- 10:01Speaker 1: of world sports. I don't anticipate that FIFA will make
- 10:05Speaker 1: any downward adjustments in pricing, but is there a lesson
- 10:10Speaker 1: to be learned here by some of those empty.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Seats Maybe a little bit, But again I'm not a
- 10:18Speaker 2: huge fan of the federation itself. I think it's become
- 10:23Speaker 2: an apparent, you know, more and more money driven. We've
- 10:26Speaker 2: seen that with the hydration breaks and the commercials. It
- 10:30Speaker 2: feels like it's it's a ploy, you especially with a
- 10:32Speaker 2: lot of these closed roof stadiums where they have to
- 10:35Speaker 2: climate control where you don't need the hydration break. I
- 10:39Speaker 2: get it for the open air stadiums where it is
- 10:41Speaker 2: hot and humid, and especially my English slot, they're not
- 10:45Speaker 2: used to that kind of that kind of heat. But
- 10:48Speaker 2: at the same time, you know, we've got a roll
- 10:50Speaker 2: with it. I'm hoping that the secondary market becomes a
- 10:55Speaker 2: little bit more attainable for those soccer fans that may
- 11:00Speaker 2: you want to catch a game here and there and
- 11:03Speaker 2: experience the World Cup vibe. We've seen it in all
- 11:05Speaker 2: the stadiums though, even though there's been a few empty seats,
- 11:08Speaker 2: how wonderful the fans have done up and made it
- 11:12Speaker 2: a real party atmosphere and all the stadiums so far,
- 11:15Speaker 2: and it's looked wonderful. I just hope that it continues
- 11:18Speaker 2: and we get some of those empty seats filled up.
- 11:21Speaker 1: What other squads are, what are the results? Have caught
- 11:24Speaker 1: your attention so far in the early play?
- 11:28Speaker 2: Well, I know this might not, this will go against
- 11:30Speaker 2: the grain because I know you Americans can't stand a tie,
- 11:34Speaker 2: but I was really I loved the Brazil Morocco game,
- 11:38Speaker 2: and I love the Netherlands and Japan game. I thought
- 11:41Speaker 2: those were two really excellent games that the teams took
- 11:44Speaker 2: a point each. But yeah, I think there's been so
- 11:48Speaker 2: much fun. And obviously we're looking at watching Kate Burdie
- 11:52Speaker 2: against Spain holding them nil nil still with five minutes left,
- 11:55Speaker 2: or four minutes left in injury time. It's a great
- 11:58Speaker 2: story Corrosal yesterday getting the equalizer against Germany. I know
- 12:03Speaker 2: it went all wrong after then, but it was It
- 12:06Speaker 2: was a delight to watch these small nations and how
- 12:10Speaker 2: much it means to their fans, those small pocket of
- 12:12Speaker 2: fans that are in the stadium and able to travel.
- 12:15Speaker 2: I can only imagine what it's like in their hot
- 12:16Speaker 2: countries watching these guys do them proud.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Well, I think. I think what we're seeing is happily
- 12:26Speaker 1: the US sports market kind of being swept up in
- 12:29Speaker 1: the excitement of this World Cup, and I only anticipate
- 12:32Speaker 1: that building more if the US men's national team can
- 12:35Speaker 1: continue with some good results. So fingers crossed for that.
- 12:39Speaker 1: We're enjoying it so far and can't tell you how
- 12:41Speaker 1: much I appreciate you lending some perspective and informed perspective
- 12:45Speaker 1: for once on soccer on this show. Thank you GOV.
- 12:49Speaker 2: Oh always a pleasure, guys.
- 12:51Speaker 1: That Spencer warn the GOV World Cup inside one of
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