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How Did She Grow Her EF Coaching Biz THIS Fast?! | Jordyn Shapiro · The Academic Coaching Podcast

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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I filled up in three months.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): What did full mean for you at that point?
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Had 20 kids.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Okay, so and that's a big client load.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I feel like that's on the high side.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Correct.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Yes.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You're like,"Correct." Welcome to the Academic Coaching Podcast, brought to you by the Anti-Boring Learning Lab.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I am your host, Gretchen Wegner, and this is the show where we dig into the craft of coaching students, the study skills, the executive function strategies, and the occasional business tip for those of you in private practice.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): My guest today is Jordyn Shapiro, founder of Just Start LA, which is an academic and executive function coaching company that also provides tutoring and college and test prep support.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Oh my goodness, they have their hands in so much, and it's so impressive.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Jordyn started building the business actually while she was still in college, and opened her first office at 22, and now leads a growing team of coaches.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): We talk about what it actually takes to grow from coach to business owner, including some of the mistakes Jordyn made along the way, importantly, how she hires and trains other coaches, and also what it's like to build a company when everyone on your team is under the age of 27 and probably also in grad school.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Anyway, stick around to the end of this great conversation, because I also asked Jordyn how on earth she managed to fund all of this at age 22, and the answer genuinely surprised me.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): So are you ready?
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Are you set?
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Let's get into it So oh my God, Jordyn, first things first, what is going on in your world today as a business owner in the executive function coaching industry?
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Like, how are you?
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: A lot.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Uh, you're hitting this call, um, and starting this at the perfect time because we are getting calls and inquiries up the wazoo right now.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Uh, we actually have had to hire another executive function coach in the past week.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Oh wow
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: to hire another executive function coach a month ago.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: we've seen in the past years that I only have to hire about one executive function coach per semester.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: We are tracking for this semester.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Wow!
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: so that's very exciting.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Uh, the biggest reason is because we don't have a lot of executive function coaching businesses around us that we could refer out to, and a lot of other individuals refer to us because they don't want to grow their own company.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: They just wanna be a single business owner, which is completely fair and fine.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, I'm the opposite.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, I love all the challenges.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: That's my favorite part of owning a company.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Uh, also, with all the headaches.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: There's, there's so many other headaches that come with that as well.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, but I would say that a lot of what we're doing right now is less marketing a- in this exact moment.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: It's more fielding the calls, making sure that our students, whether they're in kindergarten or our students or our, our adults that we're working with,'cause we say that everyone's a learner and a student at whatever age they are.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, we are trying to pair them with the best coach possible right now and get their team up to speed, whether it's with their psychologist, their psychiatrist, their neuropsych, their pediatrician, you name it.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: And then we will expand and do more marketing, which our first marketing event will probably happen in late September, early October.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Uh, as you all know, when progress reports
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yes.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: and parent-teacher conferences, and that's when there's a whole another flow.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: So we're just bracing ourself for that moment and making sure we have the proper support on our team to be able to all these families to come and seek the help that they need.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Well, one reason I wanted to have you on is that you are somebody who has a business.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You're not just a solopreneur.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You have a growing company that's a fairly new company and that has grown very fast, and I thought that would just be a different voice for people.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Our listeners are folks who are all academic and executive function coaches or want to be coaches, and just to give them a vision of if you want to expand your business the way Jordan has with Just Start LA, this, uh, are, these are some of the joys of growing, and these are some of the pitfalls of growing.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Yes, yes.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Both exist at the same time.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I feel like
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Right
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: second there's either like a very high high or a very low low, and thank God I have the most a- bomb team that I like rely on, and we're all in the same space.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: We have eight offices in our location,
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You do?
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Yes.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Wow
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: square feet in Calabasas.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, yeah, I guess I'll give a little story, um, because that's how this all started.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: That's how Just Start started.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, when I was in high school, I was doing just a lot of tutoring.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Like I enjoyed working with kids.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, I started off when I was in middle school as a mommy's helper.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Then it turned into babysitting, and I was like,"Ugh, I don't really wanna be like wasting my Saturday nights or Sundays.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Like let me do stuff after school so I can make a little bit of money but still be with the kids and help in different ways." That was...
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I lived in Calabasas growing up, and then I got into UCLA.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I went over the hill to the west side, and I was like,"Okay, wait, I still want to tutor." So I still tutored.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, I studied psychology, and I was doing another major which was specifically advocating for, um, health rights.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Oh.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Wait, wait, wait,
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: into
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): hold on.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): We need to pause there.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): There's a major about health rights?
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: World Arts and Culture, and you can pick a focus or concentration, and that's what I focused on
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): What school were you at?
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: UCLA.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Uh, okay, maybe you just said that and I didn't track.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Okay.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: no problem at all.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: No problem.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: and I- but I thought the reason I was- I went in with world arts and cultures first, knowing that I was gonna pick up a double major, but I didn't know what,'cause I was pre-med when I went in.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: then COVID hit my freshman year of college.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Mm-hmm.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, I got sent home, back over the hill, and I was asked to do a lot of pod learning, and, uh, in garages and on Zoom, and I fell in love with it.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I absolutely loved it.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I expanded that, ended up having no more room, I started hiring my friends, but not taking...
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Like, I was just, like, enjoying the managerial side of things.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I wasn't taking anything.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: It wasn't like a real business yet.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I just wanted to see what I enjoyed, and the families were actually giving me good feedback, so I could learn from it.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: was also 20 years old at the time, and I ended up taking lots of classes, and I ended up graduating earlier.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I ended up graduating in a little over three years.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, I was done with college.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I was ready to be an entrepreneur, didn't know in what way.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, I thought I was gonna end up...
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I was interviewing at JPMorgan Chase to run their non- de- uh, nonprofit division, and I was possibly thinking about going to New York, everyone has a dream of going to New York.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I've grown up in LA, I'm like,"Okay, I'll go to New York, I'll try the other coast." Um, no.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: my dad sat me down.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I was 21, little- like, closer to 22 at the time, and he's like,"You have a business here.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: You love what you do.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: don't you come, move back, live at home?" Even though all my friends were going to move to, like, different cities and s- into their own apartments, and they were, uh, like, seeking this independence, and I was going back to my roots, and it kind of felt like a step backwards while I was trying to be an adult.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Like, I was trying to adult in whatever way that meant for me.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: And I ended up moving home.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I legally started the company.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, I was working with a lot of neurodivergent backgrounds, uh, for stu- my students,
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): OK
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I fell into the executive function skill path of this.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: And so I was a tutor that specialized in executive function skills, because I just, like, learned them.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: And then I thought I wanted to fall into educational therapy, so I talked to a few educational therapists that are in the area, they're like,"Jordan, everything you're saying has nothing to do with educational therapy, has everything to do with executive function coaching." And I really trust them, and I knew they weren't just telling me that because didn't want me to take the business from them,'cause there's enough to go around, as we all know.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: And so I was like,"Okay." So then I really focused on executive function skills.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: As we all know, it's not...
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: W- we're not on any, under any boards, so I just really did a ton of research, and I just used tons of guinea pigs, um, which were my students.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: And I filled up in three months.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, I
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): What did full mean for you at that point?
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: had 20 kids.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Okay, so and that's a big client load.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I feel like that's on the high side.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Correct.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Yes.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, I
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You're like,"Correct."
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I was someone who was fine working starting at 6:00 in the morning and going till about 10:30, 11:00 at night if my students could handle it, especially my older ones.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I also had different time zones as well, so that helped.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, so I was like,"Okay, wait, hold on.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: There's obviously a need for executive function coaching," but I was like,"I don't even know who to turn to to hire next." Um, I opened up my office eight months later.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Uh, I was 22 years old.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I was gonna ask how old you were at that time.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Interesting
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, and I had the keys.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I had 2,400 square feet.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, my landlords or, yeah, my landlords for this building and the, uh, my tenant rep all agreed to this two-year deal.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: And I was like,"Okay." So I walked in.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I've had a someone, a decorator c- an interior designer come and...
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: we couldn't really change much of the exterior or, and/or interior of the building because I didn't have any of those permits and I didn't wanna pay out of, more out of pocket.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: we have terrible, still to this day, red carpet.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Our kids love it.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: We hate it.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, but this interior designer came in, did an amazing job, and we opened the doors two months later.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, it was just
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): And this was what year at this point?
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: is 2023,
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Three.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: like
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Okay
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, yes, and I hired my first employee, um, w- was and is to this day my best friend.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: She was my little, um, in my sorority.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I've also grown up with her my whole entire life.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, our family is our family friend.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: She wanted to become an SLP,
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): SLP being speech and language pathologist.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Thank you so
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, and she went onto her first day of...
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Uh, sorry, not her first, not even her first day.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: She went to go visit the campus that she got into for her grad program and had what she says is her quarterly life crisis, and hopefully she doesn't have another one.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I, as the executive function coach and me and best friend and someone who just cares so much about her and wants her to be okay, um, I was like,"Let's just go to lunch." And so we went to lunch, and she...
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: We had this whole conversation.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: At the end of the conversation, I was like,"Are you interested in like, I don't know, like I think I wanna open up an office at this point.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I have a whole tutoring team.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: have-"
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): are you interested, but this you already had the office, or this was before?
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You went back in time a little bit.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Okay.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: time a
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Okay
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, early, like three months before...
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Sorry, not even.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I'm like, I can't even get all my dates right at this point.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: But
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): That's okay.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: was looking at leases just to see- Yeah like what was even out there,
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I found something, this one, that I really loved.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, it was very safe and homey, and I was going to sign the lease, but I kind of was like,"This is such a risk." Like if I'm the only person in 2,400 square feet for two years, this is a major problem.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I'd figure it out, but like, just someone who like wants it immediately.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I have terrible patience.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, so I...
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: We had this whole meeting.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I kinda said,"I'm opening something.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I would love for you to join along.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I have zero clue how much I can pay you." She was working at a gym called Equinox at the time, 20 hours a week, um, doing their, um, and just that's obviously not what she wanted to do.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: She really still loved working with kids.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: And I was like,"Why don't you...
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Why can- I'll pay you 20 hours a week.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Like I could, I could afford that.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Let's do that for two months.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Let's have a conversation." So she came.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: She was doing all of our administration.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: She share, we share a wall, so she was hearing a lot of like what I was doing.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, she was managing our whole tutoring team so I could just manage my executive function coaching clients.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: And then within six weeks, I went to her office and I said, um, hope you're ready,'cause I'm about to offer you a full-time position.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I need you quitting Equinox.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I can't do this anymore." Um, and she's like,"I'm in." She dropped everything, and here we are now.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I can't even count how many people we have, but I think we have eight coaches now that she manages.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, we have team meetings every single week.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, we're a full woman team.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: it's amazing.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: It fills my heart every single
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mhm
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: genuinely love what I do, and I-
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): And everyone's pretty young too,'cause full woman, that's one thing.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): But I think young people are a marginalized community
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Ja
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): along with, uh, folks of color and along with women, et cetera, et cetera.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Yeah
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): so are you, are all eight of you pretty young as well?
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Yes, we're all under the age of 27.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): That's huge
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: range from 22 to 27.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: we believe that this, a lot of, we get calls.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I mean, this is, you know, the imposter syndrome as well, as we all talk about.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: We get calls and like,"How many years have you been doing this?" And we're like,"Hmm, five at the max."
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Ja
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: not come to us, do not come to us if you want the years of experience.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Right
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: guarantee and promise you is that the connection is there, and typically when there's that connection, we start to see that correction.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: And that we can, that we can implement into our sessions,
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: that we can actually be friends and mentors to your kids.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: a lot of families come to us because there's been that argument that has happened at home, like the parent and the child going head-to-head.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: So it's really, we've, we've...
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: The feedback that we have gotten some- and again, not for everybody.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Like I, my whole, I have a whole coaching cohort that I still talk to to this day, and they're all moms.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: And they have a huge book of clients.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: But I know the clients that are coming to us are seeking something that's very niche.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, so yes, do not come to us if you want years of experience.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: But, um, we are a very young team, and
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Let's talk-- Let's actually pause here because just this morning in the Anti-Boring Learning Lab, we had our monthly all about students call, and there was a question from a new coach about setting expectations with parents.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): And as happens for most new coaches, and I'm guessing it probably happened to you back in the day, um, back in the day not so long ago, but in your early days, is we say yes to students and parents without setting clear expectations for how it's going to go, and then there might be an explosion or an implosion.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): A parent is dissatisfied, or a student is there who doesn't wanna be there or whatever, and then things go badly.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): But if you set clear expectations ahead of time, it's not like we can totally shift,
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Угу
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): keep bad things from happening, but I do think it's helpful.
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): And so do you literally say what you just said to parents before they pay any money?
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Yes.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: We have a 25, 30, you know, if I'm taking the intake call, it takes about an hour.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, but Taya's the one that takes all of our intake calls.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: They're
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: minutes, 30 minutes.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: It's a complimentary intake call where we go through everything, um, that's expected of them, that they should be expecting of us.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Uh, we get all the information about the child, the family, um, if there's anyone else on their team that they would want us talking to.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: So we're very clear off the bat.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I will say I was not clear two, three years ago.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I had what you were exactly talking about, like the explosion that happens, whether it's pa- it's mostly the parents being a little bit disappointed because it's,
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I, I, I say executive function coaching a luxury.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Like it's so nice to have an executive function coach.
17:33
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: It's not covered by insurance.
17:34
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Yes, we can super bill, but there's high expectations when there's a lot of money on the line, and it's really important, I tell my team over and over again, to be over-communicative.
17:44
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: You can never not y- you can never not be too over-communicative, and so that is critical, and we say that in our weekly meetings all the time.
17:54
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: If you feel like the parent can question what you're saying, then you better explain it better.
17:59
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Uhum.
18:00
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: um, yes, I would say that I took a lot of what you would call red flag families because I wanted to fill our load, and I wanted to have more coaches, and that's the business side of my brain.
18:13
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: But I also realized that actually put me in a terrible place as a business owner because now I'm hiring more coaches, but I don't have enough students for them,
18:24
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
18:25
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: it just
18:26
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Because you're doing a better job setting expectations and not taking on those families, but it, it does impact the number of clients that your coaches have.
18:33
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): But then it also creates an opening for, like right now, when we're, we're talking on September 9th.
18:39
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I don't know when this is gonna come out.
18:41
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): But, um, but we-- You and I already know, we said this before we hit recording, that end of September to early October, when the first progress reports come out, there's going to be an explosion, in a good way for us, of students needing and looking for support.
18:57
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): And so if you take on those red flag families, I love just calling them that,
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Yeah,
19:02
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): who have...
19:03
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah, they are, for whatever reason, and it's, it's not even a judgment to them, but there are ways in which they're just not ready or just not motivated to participate fully in the coaching process.
19:15
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Um, but if you take those now, then you don't have as much room for the students who are motivated, who are gonna be willing when end of September, October hits
19:23
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Correct.
19:24
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: And I would say a big, a great thing, like a advice that I would give to new coaches or people starting companies is be awa- very aware as to what lane you stay in.
19:34
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: So I think some of us try to tap into too many things and wear too many hats, and then now our specialty is now way too broad, and people don't know why they're coming to you.
19:48
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, so a big thing with our intake calls is maybe we're not the first step right now.
19:55
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Maybe it is more of a mental health issue or whatever we're, like, hearing, and maybe we should refer out to a therapist.
20:02
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: We have so many referrals on our roster that we fully trust and have meetings with every single year, so we're able to refer them out to there.
20:09
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Maybe they don't have a neuropsych report, and you're expressing or explaining a lot of things that might show up in a neuropsych report, so what is the best first step?
20:18
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Is it a behavioral problem?
20:19
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Like a behavioral problem sh- we're not the first step.
20:21
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: It should be, like, ABA.
20:23
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: So I think our team
20:25
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): When, when you say ABA, just say what that means for folks who may not know
20:29
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: a behavioral, um, now I'm, like, blank.
20:32
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Applied behavioral
20:34
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Okay.
20:34
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): But a- a person who can work specifically with a student's behaviors.
20:39
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I can't think of what it stands for either
20:40
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I like just, I'm like applied behavioral associate, I think.
20:44
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Uh-huh.
20:45
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: along those lines.
20:46
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: But yes, like more
20:46
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Especially for autism, students with autism and that level.
20:51
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: yes,
20:51
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm
20:52
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: behavioral situation in schools or outside of
20:56
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): उहम्म
20:57
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: pulling out hair, all, all of it.
20:59
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: There's obviously anxiety with it, uh, as well, and there could be a learning challenge in there as well that'll show up on the neuro psych report, but we just have to make sure all of that is taken care of before they come here.
21:08
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: I always love to say that executive function coaching is, like, the present on top...
21:12
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Sorry, the bow on top of the present, um, where we're, like, packing the...
21:17
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: We're finishing off this package and, like, sending it off into the world, and we're not trying to create this independent...
21:23
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: We're trying to create s- my God, I'm, like, can't even talk right now.
21:25
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: We're cr- want to create independence
21:28
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yes.
21:28
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: the behavior.
21:29
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yes
21:30
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: always tell my kids, like,"I love you, but, like, I don't wanna see you in a year.
21:34
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, it's not because...
21:36
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: It's just because I love you so much that I don't wanna see you, and you're capable
21:39
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
21:39
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: all by yourself.
21:40
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Like, we just need to figure out what your superpowers are right now." yeah, I,
21:45
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
21:46
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: if that answered your
21:47
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): It does
21:48
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: that, yes, I think we grab as many as possible at the beginning, but one thing I can for sure promise, and I see this not only with our business but with the cohort that I speak to all the time, they come.
22:00
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Like, the right families come at the right time.
22:03
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: So just the patience is what's really key, and knowing that, yes, it's all the marketing, but it's also showing face.
22:11
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: It's also doing these types of podcasts and other speaking engagements that, as we were talking about before this call, I don't really love at all.
22:20
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um-
22:20
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You're doing pretty good though, y'all, don't you think?
22:22
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Given she doesn't love him, I think you're doing pretty good.
22:25
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: my God.
22:25
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Thank you.
22:25
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: Um, you can see like the words are like coming out.
22:28
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: My brain's like processing so quickly, but I'm like,"Okay, well now my is not to, up to par." But yeah, so I think it's just, um...
22:36
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: That's my biggest takeaway from like start- where the business started with the, type of clients that we had versus where we are today,
22:45
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
22:46
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah
22:47
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA: over two years, so
22:49
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I mean, I can't believe how fast you've grown.
22:52
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): It's clear that you have a deep love for the business part of things, and not, not everybody does.
22:59
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): So you are blessed to have the chutzpah as, as some folks say.
23:06
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): As well as it sounds like actually a lot of your executive function skills are online.
23:12
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Would you say that?
23:13
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Would you say that?
23:14
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Or would you say that you feel really challenged by your own executive function capacity?
23:18
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So I was diagnosed with ADHD my junior year of high school, and this kind of came as a shock, but kind of not.
23:27
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I don't think my parents really understood what, like, ADHD was.
23:31
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm.
23:32
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): my dad for sure has ADHD.
23:35
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): He has not been tested.
23:36
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, we've done a lot of, like, just going back as to what stru-stru- what were struggles for me, what were struggles for him.
23:44
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
23:46
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): My dad's also an entrepreneur himself, and so I think that I just picked up a, on a lot of behaviors.
23:54
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Uh, and, like, you know, as we, as, as we all know, that we soak up what our parents do as we're growing up.
24:00
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): We're little
24:01
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Угу
24:02
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): for better or for worse.
24:03
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And so now that we're both in...
24:06
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): We're actually in this s- something called EO, which is entrepreneurship organization, and a lot of ADHD speakers come to that.
24:16
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I would say at each one of these, there's only a few people that are, were not diagnosed with ADHD or are not diagnosed with ADHD to this day.
24:27
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And so it's just very interesting that I was diagnosed my junior year.
24:31
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): But as we know, as I said, I think I already said this, but fly under the radar for the longest time, so I had to figure it out for myself.
24:39
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I had all the tutors, but executive function coaches, like, did not exist.
24:42
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): At, at least I don't think they did.
24:43
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Maybe educa- I know educational therapists did.
24:46
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): But executive function coaches are different than educational therapists.
24:50
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And I went off to college, and I had to fend for myself.
24:56
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I had my, uh, accommodations and my
25:00
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
25:00
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): hand at
25:01
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm
25:02
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): really big school.
25:03
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And my, one of my good friends who was older than me was like,"You're never gonna get these accommodations." It took me a year.
25:10
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And then I
25:10
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Oh
25:11
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): "Okay, good to know.
25:13
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So I'm gonna walk in very assertive and say,'Here's my ac- here are my, here's my neuropsych report.
25:19
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Here are the accommodations I'm requesting.
25:21
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I will not be leaving until you give me the accommodations that I need.
25:24
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I will not survive at a school like this.' Um, this, I picked this school'cause I was down the street.
25:30
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): It's a great school.
25:32
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): It had the majors that I wanted, but I need these accommodations to succeed here." Uh, I got my accommodations within one day.
25:39
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, and I knew from that moment that I was gonna be able to get into the classes that I want, succeed in the classes that I was in.
25:49
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I had the testing time that I needed, um, to succeed, and I think that has given me a huge advantage in this company.
26:00
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, there's days, let me tell you, that my executive dysfunction gets in the
26:06
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
26:07
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): As my mom would say if she was on any of these calls, I have great executive function skills in the office, maybe with my calendar outside with social plans, but forget about it if you go into, like, my room.
26:21
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): It's,
26:22
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I, I don't even wanna show.
26:23
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): This is why I'm blurred out right here,'cause my own room is a mess.
26:27
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I probably have ADHD too
26:30
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Exactly.
26:30
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So I just, you know, s- like, those things that work for me don't work for many others.
26:35
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Like, I need a lot out in front of
26:37
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
26:37
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): need to see it.
26:38
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I think my mom growing up was always like,"More storage, more drawers,
26:43
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
26:43
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): space" Mm-hmm.
26:44
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And that's not what works for me.
26:46
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I
26:46
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): For you, yeah
26:47
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): all out.
26:48
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Like, my bathroom countertop very organized because I organize it the way I want to.
26:56
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I know where everything is.
26:57
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): But if someone el- If
26:57
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): But it's all visible.
26:59
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah
26:59
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): else walked in there, they'd be like,"What are you doing?" Like,"How are you living like this?" I'm really scared when I have my own family one day, but I'll work on that'cause I need to model good behavior.
27:11
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, but I would say that most days I have pretty good executive function skills, strength in the office and just as a business owner.
27:22
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): But there are those days, as we all know, that we try to pack so much into our schedule, and then there's a fel- a sense of shame that I didn't
27:33
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Угу
27:35
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I'm like,"How'd I not, how'd I not accomplish all this?" Like, I had the time for it.
27:39
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I estimated it really well.
27:41
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I gave myself those buffers, and I still wasn't able to do it'cause something else got in the way, or I had to take a parent call, or there was a, what I call an executive function emergency.
27:52
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Like, I feel like
27:52
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Угу.
27:53
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): EF coach,
27:54
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Угу.
27:55
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): a
27:55
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Угу
27:58
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): yeah, I would say, I guess it can go both ways, that I have great executive function skills and I have dis- uh, executive dysfunction.
28:06
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Just ask me on any given second of each day
28:09
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I think that's pretty, uh, pretty normal.
28:12
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Yeah
28:12
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): uh, one thing I just wanted to say about your, your bathroom counter,'cause you said,"Oh, when I have a family someday, I need to model good behavior." But good behavior does not necessarily mean a clean countertop, right?
28:23
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Like, good behavior could mean knowing yourself and what you need, and maybe there are several sinks, and yours is yours, and nobody else touches it, and other people get to organize theirs the way they need to.
28:33
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): And that self-knowledge and setting up the system is what good behavior is.
28:40
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Correct.
28:40
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): You're, you're very right.
28:41
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Yes, I completely agree.
28:41
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): That's why I educate a lot of, like, parents on,'cause I'm like,"Your way might not be the best way, and probably is not
28:47
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Right
28:47
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): for your child.
28:49
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): But if they're getting it done and it, it works for them, then, like, leave it.
28:53
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Like, do not cause an argument over this.
28:55
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Like,
28:56
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yes.
28:57
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yes.
28:57
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Well, and I wanted to bring that up because I see it all the time with the educators in the Anti-Boring Learning Lab, where we can be one way with our clients, but there, our own, um, our own negative self-talk and our own neurodivergence.
29:14
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): What's the word I'm looking for?
29:15
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): It's like, it's like that, that belied what you said there, belied that you are harder on yourself than you are with your students, and that's not, that's not a bad thing.
29:27
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Just coaches are, and it's why we depend on having community so we can support ourselves
29:34
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Yes, for
29:35
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): in our own negative self-talk while we're supporting students
29:39
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): That's why I love your, your community that you've built.
29:43
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I think it's, um, it's wonderful.
29:45
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): It's amazing, and I know that I put all my coaches through your community for a month, two months, three months, and then we have obviously our supplement to that.
29:55
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): But I think community is critical, and that's
29:58
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
29:59
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I love having a huge team.
30:01
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And when I say huge, it's a pretty decent sized team.
30:04
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): It's not a massive team.
30:05
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): But we have a community, and it's collaborative, and we're
30:09
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Uhum.
30:09
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): to support one another.
30:10
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And
30:11
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Uhum
30:11
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): wanna...
30:11
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): That isolation is what's really difficult, and I think some of us that have businesses that are, w- what you were saying, like the sole entrepreneurs,
30:21
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
30:21
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): it's, it's sometimes daunting.
30:24
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): As I said, it's isolating, and we kind of want to find a way to build that community because we're all experiencing it every single day and you don't wanna go through it alone.
30:34
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And having that space to talk it out and feel heard is critical
30:40
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Is so critical.
30:41
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yes.
30:42
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): And so I do wanna talk actually about training, because this is something that comes up over and over and over with business owners like yourself who reach out to me, who have several coaches who work alongside them in their companies.
30:57
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): And like, how the heck do you figure out how to train people, especially when they're working as independent contractors?
31:05
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Although that brings up, I don't know if yours are employees or independent contractors, so that's one topic.
31:10
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): But I'd love for you to talk about, yes, you use us, so talk about what does the lab provide in terms of training that you find important, and then also what do you do to supplement what's not in the lab that you think is important as well?
31:25
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Yeah, I would say, I guess, yeah, twofold.
31:27
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So our coaches are all, are all hourly employees,
31:33
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): OK
31:33
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): um, just because we're giving them our, just our executive function toolbox or what, what you're talking about, the supplement.
31:42
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So legally they're employees,'cause we're teaching them what we want them to teach their students, or at least incorporate into their model.
31:52
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Not all of our coaches have the same approach.
31:54
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I don't want that.
31:55
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I would say I'm definitely more on the sterner side of our coaches, and we have some more soft-spoken, nurturing individuals,
32:05
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
32:06
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): because not everyone vibes with me, not everyone vibes with them.
32:08
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So that's part of when Taya's having his inquiry calls, it's like, okay, what, what personality does your child respond to best or do you respond to best?
32:19
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): It depends on who we're coaching.
32:22
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): they're hourly employees, uh, or full-time employees if they're doing more than just executive function coaching on our team.
32:29
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, then with the anti-learning boring, anti-boring learning lab, and
32:37
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Too
32:37
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): like,"What is the order?" Um, I'm like, sometimes I literally, they all, my whole team makes fun of me, and I'm like,"Hey, whatever, it doesn't matter." Just like, you know what I'm trying to say.
32:47
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, I would say a lot of what we don't cover i- are the study skills
32:52
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mhm.
32:53
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): how to study and the why behind studying and why it's important, um, to maybe start in advance in different ways.
33:02
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And um, I wasn't an education major.
33:05
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Uh, Taya was, and so obviously there's some parts that she could pull as well, but that's not my specialty, nor do I want it to be.
33:14
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And so I feel like I, we really use your program for that specifically and also for them to have that experience of, of watching the mini lectures and then writing things out or practicing, um, doing a coaching session and what that would look like.
33:31
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Uh, they, they do it on o- like other coaches, and we provide feedback, so it's kind of happening in your community but also outside in our
33:39
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Right.
33:40
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah
33:41
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And then what we've really touched on is a lot of the task initiation, the time management, uh, the emotional regulation, the, uh, how to...
33:53
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Like what we're also teaching our, our, um, coaches is how to have those family team meetings,
33:59
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yes.
34:00
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): how to give some news that maybe is not something they wanna hear.
34:06
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, thought, I literally had to fire my first kiddo last week.
34:11
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um,
34:12
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Really?
34:13
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Only, like it took you this long to fire your first kiddo?
34:16
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I just think
34:17
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): That's pretty good, Jordan.
34:19
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): It's like my first, like my,
34:21
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Ja.
34:22
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): um, we've fired other kids, but my first, and it was like the hardest thing.
34:26
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): But we're just teaching them how...
34:28
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Like, there's a lot, it's a 13-week module that we go through, so it's very specific into like what our Just Start approach is, and the families that seek us out, what they're looking for.
34:39
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
34:41
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): So 13 modules is y- is your training modules that you have your staff go through?
34:45
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Correct.
34:45
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So while
34:46
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
34:46
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Okay.
34:48
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
34:48
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): going through ours.
34:49
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah
34:50
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): on top of that, they meet with, um, our training coach who is designated to them to go through meetings twice a week to cover the modules, also ask any questions, and then do some supervision as to this, like doing, um...
35:07
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Now I'm blanking on the name right now, and this is like terrible.
35:10
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): But, um, you know what I'm trying to say.
35:14
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, it's, um, like when the live, if a student was to, uh, a cour- not a course.
35:22
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, it starts with a C and I can't even think of it right now.
35:24
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Totally fine
35:25
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): if you were to...
35:28
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): We give them a case study.
35:30
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Oh my gosh.
35:30
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I was like,
35:31
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): A
35:31
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): is it?"
35:32
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): case study
35:33
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I got it.
35:33
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Oh my God, my brain.
35:34
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Can you tell?
35:35
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Like I literally have, I woke up at 5:00 this morning and I was like,"Okay, what does my day look like?"
35:40
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Honey, it is the beginning of the school year, and I'm feeling it too, so do not sweat it.
35:44
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): We all- we're all feeling...
35:46
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Even the listeners are like,"Oh, girl, I feel you."
35:49
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I'm like,"What is that word?" Case study.
35:52
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): We give them case study.
35:52
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So if your child, you know, we d- we gave them basically an intake call.
35:56
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): What would you do in the first session?
35:58
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): How would you approach this case?
35:59
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And then what would you, how would you, would the parents be on board, depending on the age?
36:05
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Also, what would their involvement look like?
36:07
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): That sort of thing.
36:07
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Mm-hmm.
36:08
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
36:08
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): kind of how we supplement what you provide, which is amazing.
36:13
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): You have an awesome curriculum.
36:15
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): It's just our family, we see that our families need a little bit more,
36:20
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
36:20
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): when it
36:21
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): And you're not the only one.
36:22
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I would say we have five or six right now companies inside the lab who use us for the study skills and for general coaching.
36:31
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Like the Academic Coaching 101 module is very useful for generally speaking, how do you ask good coaching questions and how do you think through decision-making in executive function and academic coaching environments?
36:43
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): But it makes total sense that you would need to fill in more blanks to how your company works
36:50
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): it's just taken us time.
36:52
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): As it all goes back to
36:54
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah
36:54
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I, we didn't sit down.
36:57
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): We spent, we took the whole entire summer off, which is shocking that I ever took the summer off,
37:02
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): That's great.
37:03
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): business instead of in the business.
37:05
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Oh, wait, so you didn't quite take it off.
37:07
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You just took it off from coaching.
37:09
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I did not.
37:09
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Correct.
37:09
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): We did
37:10
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Okay
37:10
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): have a...
37:11
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, no, I did not take the summer off.
37:12
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Are you crazy?
37:13
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I have, like, rent to pay for and also employees.
37:15
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I was like,"No, I cannot do this." But could do everything to work on the business and the system.
37:21
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): The executive functioning within our company,
37:24
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yes.
37:25
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): summer,
37:26
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Great
37:27
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): that's why we have fully...
37:29
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): We're gonna, like, fully launch something in, like, this semester leading up to January.
37:33
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So it's, it's just, it's important for our coaches and our families because just of the clients that come to us.
37:41
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So I
37:42
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah
37:42
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): also important for even the listeners to know it's, not one way or the highway.
37:47
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): It's like you're teaching them the, the foundation,
37:50
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Угу
37:51
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): incorporate into that for their specific clientele
37:56
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yes.
37:56
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Now, I know we need to wrap up'cause you have to run to another meeting.
38:00
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Is it a session, by the way, or a
38:02
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): especially my youngest
38:03
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): s-
38:04
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): He's
38:04
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): your youngest kiddo
38:05
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I started with him when he was in first grade.
38:07
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Now he's in fourth grade,
38:08
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Ah, okay.
38:10
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Yes.
38:10
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Yeah.
38:12
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): so I'm
38:12
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah
38:12
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): yeah, he, and I know he's gonna like barge.
38:14
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I locked my door,'cause I know he's like the...
38:16
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And I have Do Not Disturb on the outside, because he's someone who likes to barge through and be like,"I'm here." And I'm like,"Hi."
38:25
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Good.
38:25
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Well, we'll, we'll get you done so that you can unlock the door and let him barge in, although I think that would've been fun to hear
38:31
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I know.
38:32
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): It would've been funny
38:34
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): But I do have, so just a few last questions that we can go quickly with that I know listeners are probably thinking.
38:40
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): So those who are business owners who are listening probably wanna know, like, so if they're hourly employees, do you pay them for every hour that they're training?
38:49
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Or what kind of an...
38:50
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Because my, mine could take up to 40 hours to work through a loan, and that's expensive to pay an employee 40 hours.
38:58
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): So do you pay them by the hour, or do you have a different agreement with them?
39:01
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): We have a different agreement.
39:03
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So when they're training, it's completely different.
39:05
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): It's basically how are you gonna vibe even within our team.
39:09
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, this whole process, my commitment is obviously to pay for your training, and I also pay for our tr- uh, the person who is training the individual.
39:20
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, but they're not paid.
39:22
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm
39:23
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): they're not paid.
39:24
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): But the compensation comes to them when they're on the team, and then they have goals that they could hit, and they can get increases, and they get gifts and other incentives
39:35
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Uhum, uhum.
39:38
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): as I say, I, I treat them just as if I were to treat my students of
39:42
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
39:43
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): We set short-term and long-term goals.
39:45
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): If you achieve them, there's something associated with them.
39:48
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, so everyone's treated the
39:50
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Great
39:50
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): We actually just incorporated this year doing acknowledge...
39:53
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): We do cards every single week, and we, um, acknowledge one coach, and then we have a whole tutoring team still, so we acknowledge those tutors, and then they get a gift at the end as well.
40:05
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So
40:06
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): So you have some real systems in place to motivate folks.
40:09
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Because that's another issue that I know larger business owners have is like, if I pay for your training and then you come in and get, and work for me for six months and then leave, like there's often a lot of turnover.
40:22
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): But it sounds like you have some very...
40:25
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): A, I think you have friends and family members who are coming in, so they're probably not gonna turnover as quickly necessarily.
40:31
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Is that true?
40:32
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Correct.
40:33
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Yes, that's true.
40:34
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, also it's, we have a two-year verbal commitment.
40:38
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Typically, we're pulling people that are in school still.
40:42
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
40:43
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): sorry, not
40:44
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
40:44
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): grad.
40:45
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): students are amazing, amazing coaches
40:48
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So they're typically getting their MFTs or their ed- something in education, or a clinical psych or their PsyDs.
40:54
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So they stay with us because they're getting that experience, and they're gaining so much value from being in this community.
41:02
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): And then we help them on the outside too.
41:05
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Like, we pay for, when I'm going with a, my, with Taya to events, we're like,"Hey, who wants to come?
41:13
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): We'll pay for those events."
41:15
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Aha
41:16
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): experience talking to other psychologists, psychiatrists, neuropsychs, pediatricians, like whatever they're interested in,
41:21
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Right
41:22
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): occupational therapists.
41:22
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So they gain value from those as well.
41:25
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
41:25
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): So there, it sounds like you've just got a number of different incentive systems built in that aren't, like, disrespectful incentives,'cause I think sometimes those incentives are like,"What?
41:33
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You think I'm gonna be motivated by that?" But you've really found what helps drive the folks to wanna make the most of their experience while they're with you, and it also sounds like you're willing to bless and release them in two years, too.
41:47
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): That's
41:47
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
41:49
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
41:50
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Um, oh, shoot.
41:51
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I had one more question that I forgot, so I'm gonna ask this one while I try and remember it.
41:54
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Do you actually remember our first moment where we...
41:58
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): where you talked and I heard you?
42:01
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Like, you were in a webinar.
42:03
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Do you remember?
42:04
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): do remember I was in my kitchen.
42:05
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I don't know what I said.
42:08
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I didn't remember you were in your kitchen, but I think it was you.
42:11
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You were like, it was one of my free webinars, I think, and you, you were like,"What do you do if a high school student throws himself on the floor and has a tantrum?" Or something like that, and won't leave or something.
42:24
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Do you remember that?
42:25
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I kind of do, and I've had so many of those moments, uh, like that day on, so I don't know exactly which moment you're talking about.
42:35
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): But I still have that, most likely that kid to this day
42:40
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Oh, interesting.
42:42
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): So that kid did put up a fuss, but you've worked some things out with them in the meantime
42:47
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): strikes you're out policy personally.
42:50
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, I try to incorporate into the company but they don't, some people don't agree with it, which is completely okay.
42:55
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, I do, so I took a pause with him for a year,
43:01
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mhm.
43:02
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): back.
43:02
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): It's been like six months or something along those lines, but there was agreements that were set, there was a constitution written, it was signed, it
43:10
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Wow.
43:10
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): yeah.
43:11
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): And is he doing okay now?
43:13
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Who you think that might be?
43:14
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Is he, like, he's-
43:15
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): yes, he's doing, um, really well.
43:17
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): He sees me twice a week now.
43:19
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, he's the one that decided to come.
43:21
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): He's the one that reached out to me, the parents didn't.
43:24
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): yeah,
43:24
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Oh, congratulations.
43:26
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): so thank you.
43:27
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Thank you.
43:27
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So yes,
43:27
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): It's
43:28
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): proud.
43:28
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I've had some crazy cases since then, but we, that's,
43:34
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): And
43:34
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): a bit off topic
43:35
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): it's, it's another question we talk about a lot in the Anti-Boring Learning Lab is like, like you, you brought up firing a client.
43:41
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): For like when do you let a client go, and when do you stick with them?
43:45
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Especially if you did take on a family that maybe was against some of your intuition, and sometimes those families do end up being the best families if you stick with it.
43:54
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): They drain your energy for a while, while you're trying to figure out how to work with their system and then with yours, but it, it can really work out in the case that you shared.
44:04
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): okay, I remember the question.
44:06
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): So, oh, shoot, I just remembered it, and then I just forgot it.
44:10
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): No, I do got it.
44:10
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I got it, I got it, I got it.
44:13
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): When you were building the business, how, like how did...
44:16
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): How could you afford to pay for like the building when you got it?
44:19
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Were your parents helping you out, or did you have savings?
44:21
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): And if this is too much, you don't have to share it, but I think listeners are wondering.
44:26
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I'll share.
44:26
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, I've been saving since I was 11 years old.
44:30
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I...
44:31
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I have.
44:32
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): As we go back, my dad's in finance.
44:34
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): That's, his entrepreneurial side is in finance.
44:37
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I
44:37
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Okay
44:38
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): gonna take over that business, and that's why I was going down to JP Morgan, then I was gonna get experience, then I
44:42
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I see
44:43
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Uh, whatever.
44:44
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So he- I'm very money conscious, for sure.
44:49
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, I'm not a big spender, but I've always been like,"Okay, I've alwa- I wanna start a business.
44:55
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I don't know what that's gonna look like and when that's gonna start, but let me start putting money away." And it just grew over time.
45:02
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, I actually have started multiple companies with my ADHD students, because I believe that you can start as early as possible.
45:10
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So I have many middle schoolers who have their own businesses, and I'm like,"Save 50%, gave 20 to charity." Like, that's what I was taught my whole entire life, and I still believe in that to this day.
45:22
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, so yes, I- it was all saving.
45:25
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): My parents helped by, like, l- allowing me to go back home and live there, um, so I
45:30
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Right.
45:30
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): rents.
45:31
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So yes,
45:31
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): But it was your own money that paid for all of it.
45:34
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): uh,
45:34
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Amazing, Jordan
45:36
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): out any loans.
45:37
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I am very proud to say that.
45:39
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, I pay everything on time.
45:42
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, you know, ADHD sometimes it's all, like, auto.
45:46
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, so I have an accountant, I have a lawyer, I have all the stuff in place.
45:53
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): But yes, I pay for that myself.
45:55
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
45:56
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): listen, we all know owning a company, you only take a certain percent, um, or amount, and you're putting the rest into the company.
46:04
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So it's not like I'm rolling in the dough.
46:06
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, but I'm constantly reinvesting in something that I love with the goal of one day, you know, being able to step back and just oversee the whole entire thing, but that might
46:16
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
46:16
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): 20 years
46:18
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Mm-hmm.
46:19
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You know, you might be interested in if...
46:22
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I'm sure you've been too busy to even notice the other podcast episodes I have, but one of the first five episodes is with a woman about, um, how to set up your business so you can easily sell it.
46:32
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You might already have that in your mind already, but, but I recommend if you don't have it in your mind, and for the listeners out there, to go back and listen to that.
46:41
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I was really surprised that it's possible for those of us, uh, who ha- especially for you because you have systems and other coaches and everything.
46:50
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I think you, you really are on something that will be, um, a wonderful retirement for you eventually.
46:57
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I still
46:57
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah.
46:58
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): long
46:58
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You have a long ways to go.
47:00
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You're just in your 20s.
47:02
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I'm just like, just, just starting.
47:04
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I'm literally...
47:05
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I always say,"I'm just starting."
47:06
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yes
47:07
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): my gosh, perfect.
47:08
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Great name." Um, yeah,
47:10
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): That's right, just start LA.
47:11
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I'm just starting.
47:13
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I've also Um, and I'm also just started my master's program, so I'm getting my master's in IO psychology, so that's also a whole different ballgame
47:22
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Jordan, how do you do it?
47:23
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I just, some of, some of you, I just don't understand.
47:25
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): It must be that ADHD energy.
47:27
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You just dive in and commit
47:29
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Just like, I'm like always ready for a challenge.
47:32
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I'm always bored.
47:33
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I'm not the person that sits and watches TV.
47:36
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I can't.
47:36
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Like there's, I
47:37
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah
47:38
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): can't watch a TV show or a movie or I'll fall asleep, or on my computer in front of me.
47:42
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah
47:43
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): constantly thinking.
47:44
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I'm constantly on.
47:44
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I have notepads galore, Post-It Notes all over.
47:48
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Um, so yeah, no, I think that, um, yeah, we'll see.
47:53
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I'll let you know in four years.
47:54
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): It's gonna take me
47:55
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Let us know.
47:56
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Great.
47:56
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Let us know.
47:57
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Hopefully we'll still be in, in each other's world and you can come on the podcast again
48:01
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): sure.
48:01
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I would love to.
48:02
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I would love to
48:04
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Great.
48:04
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Well, and it sounds like you might have a new person you need to get into the lab to get her, get her trained up, so just send an email when you're ready
48:11
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I l- literally was like,"Taya, I'm gonna talk to Gretchen today,"
48:15
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Ja
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): will be sending that person over to
48:17
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Sounds good
48:19
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): tomorrow.
48:19
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): So enjoy.
48:20
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yes, I, I will.
48:21
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I always enjoy your people.
48:23
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): So, um, thank you so much for your trust in me and my training, and thank you.
48:28
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): This was our first time actually truly meeting, so
48:30
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Well,
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): it's been a pleasure
48:32
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I met you at Chad in Anaheim.
48:36
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Do you remember
48:37
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Yeah, that was so, that wasn't long though.
48:39
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): That, and I had so many people
48:42
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): so many of you.
48:42
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Are you going to CHAD in Baltimore?
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Gretchen Wegner (she/her): I don't plan on it right now.
48:49
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Um, but I, I haven't personally found that CHAD is a great place for me to meet other coaches who wanna be trained in study skills.
48:57
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): But if I'm told that those folks are starting to come to CHAD, I am more than happy to make my way there.
49:04
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Okay.
49:04
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): So you, you, you scout.
49:06
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You scout for me.
49:07
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I will scout for you.
49:09
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): All right.
49:09
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): Well, it's 1:29.
49:11
Gretchen Wegner (she/her): You have a fourth grader about to bang your door down, so you better go.
49:14
Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): I will, I will, but it's so great to see you and speak with you, and I will see you soon.
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Jordyn Shapiro - Just Start LA (2): Bye