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Rich in Life Formula To Future You Favours · Two Broke Chicks

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Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gadigal Land Always was, always
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Speaker 2: Hay Chicks, I'm sal and I'm out And this is
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Speaker 2: Two Road Chicks, the show that shares life lessons and
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Speaker 2: tips to help make you rich in life. And Welcome
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Speaker 2: to a very very special episode of Two Road Chicks.
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Speaker 2: I Know Live coming to a cinemony you, yeah, but
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Speaker 2: for our chicks at home, we're coming to you live exactly.
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Speaker 2: Like al said from the NUTROGENAUSK investment clinic, how cool
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Speaker 2: is this space?
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Speaker 1: It's literally incredible. But what are we talking through today?
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Speaker 2: Soal So, today we are joining Nutrogena to talk about
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Speaker 2: and with the launch of a new moisturizer and eyegel
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Speaker 2: both containing these amazing peptides, with the moisturizer also containing bacachule.
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Speaker 3: Did I know that I always stumble at that one?
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Speaker 1: Yes?
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Speaker 3: Everyone else?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? Everyone?
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Speaker 3: The icagement and.
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Speaker 2: The I cream containing natural biopeptides and niceinemide Diday.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna chat.
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Speaker 1: Like skincare myths, how to kind of create a routine
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Speaker 1: that doesn't break the bank because Gausi leaves bobes, and
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Speaker 1: also investing in things that just make you feel good
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Speaker 1: rich in life as we like to say.
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Speaker 2: And we're also going to be joined by dermatologist doctor
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Speaker 2: Schreier Andre for a fun game where we debunk some
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Speaker 2: skincare myths and buzzwords that you would have seen all
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Speaker 2: over the internet and your.
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Speaker 1: FIP Yeah, should we get into it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do the damn thing.
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Speaker 2: So for anybody who's listened to the show before, we
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Speaker 2: always say that we like we mentioned at the top,
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Speaker 2: we share the life lessons and tips that help make
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Speaker 2: you feel rich in life. So we wanted to kick
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Speaker 2: off this convo by chatting through some of the things
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Speaker 2: that do make us feel rich in life, right because
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Speaker 2: I think for us, when you think rich in life,
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Speaker 2: you're probably thinking the number that's in your back account, right,
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Speaker 2: but it really.
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Speaker 3: Is so much more than that.
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Speaker 1: Super exactly, no rich in life is I've always said
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Speaker 1: my aspiration is to be one of those women that
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Speaker 1: always get a blow dry every week.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you.
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Speaker 1: Know who got it, I'm like, that's how I know
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Speaker 1: I've made it in life, is like just go and
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Speaker 1: get a blow dry every week, and.
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Speaker 3: She has her weekly blow dry and nail appointments.
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Speaker 1: Somehow I turn into like an older woman who lives
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Speaker 1: in New York and I'm like, hey, Dahl and like
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Speaker 1: let's go like you know, the usual. Yeah, and I'll
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Speaker 1: be like, you made it out.
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Speaker 2: But obviously that's the north Star, right, yeah, that woman.
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Speaker 2: But we're going to start with some things that are
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Speaker 2: a little bit more achievable. And I think my first
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Speaker 2: thing that makes me feel rich in life is an
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Speaker 2: everything shower.
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Speaker 1: Who here can also occur yeah yeah right yeah.
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Speaker 2: But also I think the thing with me with the
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Speaker 2: everything shower. Initially I saw it as like a chore.
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Speaker 2: It would be like the Thursday night share and I'd
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Speaker 2: be like not you again, like looking at the rays
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Speaker 2: of being like please, we've been here.
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Speaker 3: I've had enough.
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Speaker 2: But reframing it as a ritual and something that is
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Speaker 2: actually to be enjoyed and a moment to slow down
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Speaker 2: is a really great chance to pause midweek and actually
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Speaker 2: focus on some of those moments of self care and
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Speaker 2: pause and just focus on something that makes you feel good.
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Speaker 2: And there's actually been studies done that show that people
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Speaker 2: who focus on rituals in their life and give themselves
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Speaker 2: time to do rituals have a more meaning for purpose
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Speaker 2: in life.
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Speaker 1: How old is that? Also, some of the things that
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Speaker 1: are in the routine of and everything shower are just
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Speaker 1: naturally good for your mental health. So because it takes
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Speaker 1: you out of your brain and forces you to be
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Speaker 1: in your body, Like there's two ways of basically existing
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Speaker 1: that you know, Like if someone's internal monologue is like yapping,
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Speaker 1: which vibes, I'm like, girl, we already have a podcast.
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Speaker 1: We don't need to be talking in two forms, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so then when you're doing
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Speaker 1: something that's actually so in your body, it takes you
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Speaker 1: out of anxiety spirals all bindu. But also we were
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Speaker 1: talking with people just around the room as well about
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Speaker 1: future you favors, and at first it's kind of like
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Speaker 1: what does that really mean? But like, the future you
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Speaker 1: favors are the things that you do now in order
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Speaker 1: to help yourself in the future. So it's like, you know,
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Speaker 1: when you're driving home and the petrolight turns on and
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Speaker 1: you're like, no, not today, I'll do that in the morning.
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Speaker 1: On the way there a little sticker and put on
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Speaker 1: top of that, you're like, I haven't I didn't see it.
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Speaker 1: It didn't happen.
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Speaker 3: Ignorance is literally.
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Speaker 1: But then the next morning you snoozed five times, you
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Speaker 1: couldn't find what to wear because you had no clothes
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Speaker 1: because everything was in the dirty clothes basket. And then
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Speaker 1: you're running ten minutes like because naturally that's your state
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Speaker 1: of being, and you get in the car and you
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Speaker 1: turn the key and you see the petrol light and
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Speaker 1: you're like, dag nam it. You know that that's an
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Speaker 1: example of like on the way home, like filling up
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Speaker 1: your petrol tank before you get home, because future you
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Speaker 1: will thank you for it.
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Speaker 3: And we were.
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Speaker 1: Talking to people about some of their others and obviously,
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Speaker 1: you know, you can take this as big or as
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Speaker 1: little as you want. Like the literal term of investing,
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Speaker 1: you know, I know that's always such a big, daunting term.
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Speaker 1: Whenever we talk to chicks about it or friends about
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Speaker 1: it, it's always like I want to start, but I don't
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Speaker 1: know how, And it's always just starting like that. And
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Speaker 1: that's kind of the fun behind it of doing the
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Speaker 1: thing that you're like, I've actually just done something. It
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Speaker 1: makes you feel like a proper adult, Like you're like, wow,
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Speaker 1: not to sound like millennial, but you're like, you're really adulting. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm on the cusps, so I just kind of claim
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Speaker 1: whatever suits me. I'm nineteen ninety six, so sometimes, depending
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Speaker 1: on what article you look up, I'm gen zed and
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Speaker 1: then sometimes I'm a millennial and I just pick which
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Speaker 1: suits that day.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's the kind of things that, yeah, may
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Speaker 2: feel a little bit daunting or annoying or like, oh
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Speaker 2: I just couldn't be bothered, But it pays, just like investing. Honestly,
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Speaker 2: all of these things they pay in like compound interest
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Speaker 2: over time. So the earlier that you start these things,
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Speaker 2: the better off you will be in future. So it Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it can be big things like investing or even just
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Speaker 2: starting to track your expenses and looking at where your
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Speaker 2: money is going and setting up a budget. Like starting
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Speaker 2: with those small, really actionable steps can help you.
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Speaker 3: You know, I guess like you have to make the
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Speaker 3: first step.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, I know it sounds boring, but like super
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Speaker 1: because I didn't know. I'm so embarrassed. I didn't know
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Speaker 1: who my super was until probably like four years ago,
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Speaker 1: and I'm too old for that to be the number,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, does everyone here know
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Speaker 1: who their super is? Is anyone lying?
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Speaker 3: Someone say no to make her feel better?
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Speaker 1: Someone say no, okay, please I need that?
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Speaker 2: But I think that is pretty common because so many
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Speaker 2: people start their work and their employer just sets them
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Speaker 2: up with whatever account. And sometimes you'll even jump jobs
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Speaker 2: and they'll set you up with a new one and
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Speaker 2: you're like, rock on, sounds good, and then you actually
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Speaker 2: look and you're like, why do I have thirteen super accounts? Like,
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Speaker 2: I think that is a very normal thing that a
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Speaker 2: lot of people experience, and it's unfortunately something that we
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Speaker 2: don't learn in school. So but we know Pythagoras' theorem
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Speaker 2: thankfully and hot cross buns on the recorder, which I'm
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Speaker 2: going to perform for you.
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Speaker 1: Now, not our tables though those never stuck.
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Speaker 3: Yeah that's true. They really did try and make those work,
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Speaker 3: but unfortunately.
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Speaker 1: Why was it? Anyway, that's a whole other half an
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Speaker 1: hour topic, but also like moving away from money and
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Speaker 1: things like that, even doing the closing shift before you
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Speaker 1: go to bed, does everybody know what this is?
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Speaker 3: Does everybody do.
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Speaker 2: It that fair, So okay, the closing shift for anybody
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Speaker 2: who doesn't know, it's like the life admin that you
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Speaker 2: do before you go to bed that will set you
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Speaker 2: up for the best morning. So it could be wiping
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Speaker 2: down the kitchen bench, or chucking the dishes in the dishwasher,
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Speaker 2: or steaming the clothes that you're gonna wear the next
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Speaker 2: day the night before, even like filling up your Stanley.
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Speaker 3: Water bottle and like putting it beside the bed.
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Speaker 2: Little things like that, or like organizing your lunch for
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Speaker 2: the next day. The things that filling up your car
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Speaker 2: as well. We mentioned but that is because I am
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Speaker 2: not a morning person, and I have tried to be
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Speaker 2: a morning person, and we've also had so many amazing
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Speaker 2: guests on the show who have given us step by
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Speaker 2: step instructions on how to be a morning person.
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Speaker 3: And I still snooze. My I aren't like four times
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Speaker 3: this morning.
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Speaker 2: The scariest person is on the met Yeah, so that's honestly,
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Speaker 2: especially if she's hung over.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a beast within it.
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Speaker 2: So even the morning, even the closing shift, I don't
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Speaker 2: think could save me there, but little things like that
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Speaker 2: that as well. Sometimes I'll just put on like a
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Speaker 2: ten minute timer, and I'm like, and go and see
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Speaker 2: as much as I can get done in that time.
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Speaker 2: And it makes it feel so much more achievable because
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Speaker 2: so many of those tasks as well, you put off
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Speaker 2: for like weeks or months, and then when you finally
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Speaker 2: do it, you're like, call, that took thirty seconds.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, why am I like this before you? If you're not, like,
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Speaker 1: it's kind of seeing what works for you as well.
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Speaker 1: There's also a kind of on the flip side, a
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Speaker 1: leave the house better rule, which I really enjoy as well.
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Speaker 1: Is that like whenever you're leaving for work or you're
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Speaker 1: going out for the day, before you head out, it's
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Speaker 1: doing one thing that just like leaves the house better
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Speaker 1: because I don't know if anyone else is the same.
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Speaker 1: But like when I'm getting read, don't ask me what happened.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why everything's on the
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Speaker 1: sync or why there's like seven hair tools that I
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Speaker 1: don't know if I turned off and then I've got
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Speaker 1: to go back home. But it's like this the little
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Speaker 1: things that is like Okay, I'll put the dishwasher on,
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Speaker 1: or i'll make I'll make sure I put all my
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Speaker 1: stuff away so that when I come home, I'm not
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Speaker 1: walking into a bathroom that looks like a tornado went
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Speaker 1: through it. And just those little things were also very
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Speaker 1: obviously skincare.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, which when we were going around the room and
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Speaker 2: talking to a few of you chicks, gold star to
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Speaker 2: everybody who said SPF and skincare, gell little round of applause,
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Speaker 2: so those people come up yeah. And it's really interesting
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Speaker 2: because Nutrigena also shared some research and some stats with
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Speaker 2: us before the show when we were prepping, and we
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Speaker 2: found out that forty seven percent of people wish they
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Speaker 2: started their skincare journey sooner, which I know I did.
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Speaker 2: Like when I was in high school, I was setting
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Speaker 2: my skin with hairspray like I didn't I didn't really know,
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Speaker 2: and I thought that SBF was just for a summer
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Speaker 2: day at the beach, Like I wasn't wearing SBF every
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Speaker 2: single day. And it's one of those things like the
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Speaker 2: sooner that you start, the better off you'll be in
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Speaker 2: the long run.
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Speaker 1: Literally, I think there were some very diabolical decisions that
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Speaker 1: I made that I don't know if I want to
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Speaker 1: admit about, like even just washing off my makeup before
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Speaker 1: bed and then sometimes the next morning, I'm starting to
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Speaker 1: admit it apparently, And then did anyone can please be honest,
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Speaker 1: did anyone ever go to bed in their makeup and
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Speaker 1: then the next day they woke up and it still
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Speaker 1: kind of looked good?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: And you were like, thank you, I really appreciate your honesty.
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Speaker 1: And you were like, I can await with this again.
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Speaker 1: You wore it the next day and that now the
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Speaker 1: back and und I'm like, you grub but I'm like,
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Speaker 1: also kind of like not anymore. It's fine. Imagine, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I did it today. But yeah, there's so many things
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Speaker 1: that it's like, hindsight is bliss and it's a wonderful
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Speaker 1: thing to learn in.
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Speaker 3: As we know.
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Speaker 1: But I swear even growing up, you'd see all these
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Speaker 1: interviews with celebrities and it would be like, what's the
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Speaker 1: beauty tip you wish you knew sooner? And so much
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Speaker 1: of it with skincare, and so much of it was SBF.
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Speaker 1: I remember being like, yeah, sure, And now I'm like,
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Speaker 1: you listen to your mother's on the internet now, okay?
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Speaker 4: Not us?
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Speaker 1: Then we're too young. I don't want to sell to
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Speaker 1: point mummy status.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, we need to earn that drunk anties. But yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: But when we were chatting with New Chicks, and even
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Speaker 2: when we talk about this on the show, one of
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Speaker 2: my favorite things about the things that make you feel
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Speaker 2: rich in life is so often there are things that
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Speaker 2: are free, or at least things that are low cost.
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Speaker 2: And you know, there's that old saying the best things
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Speaker 2: in life are free, and it's a cliche, but it's true, right,
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Speaker 2: like whether that is you know, like sleeping in on
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Speaker 2: a Saturday or calling up like your best friend and
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Speaker 2: telling them a really embarrassing story.
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Speaker 1: We came across this like theory or philosophical rule early
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Speaker 1: in the year or like two years ago actually where
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Speaker 1: time for us. And it's called the one hundred hour rule.
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Speaker 1: And it's basically the way it's presented in like its
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Speaker 1: original status or online, is that if you spend eighteen
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Speaker 1: minutes a day doing one thing, like if you wanted
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Speaker 1: to start a hobby. Let's say you wanted to learn Italian, Right,
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Speaker 1: if you spend eighteen minutes a day learning Italian, by
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Speaker 1: the end of the year, that would be one hundred hours, right.
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Speaker 1: And so it's kind of how like the small things.
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Speaker 1: But when we were talking about it, I was like,
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Speaker 1: imagine if you spent eighteen minutes a day just on
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Speaker 1: something that made you feel good, Because so often, even
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Speaker 1: when we're walking around and chatting, will be.
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Speaker 3: Like, oh, how are you, how are you?
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Speaker 1: And we all go, oh, busy, And it's like so
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Speaker 1: true and so normal and so understandable because we are busy.
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Speaker 3: We are so busy.
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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, being busy is
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Speaker 1: in a personality trait and we don't get to the
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Speaker 1: end of the lives. And like, I don't want that
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Speaker 1: on my tombstone, being like she was a beloved broke chicken,
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Speaker 1: really busy, and I'm like, oh great, that sounds fun.
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Speaker 1: So like I don't want to look back on my
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Speaker 1: life and feel like I just spent it being busy
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Speaker 1: and I can't actually tell you what I did. So
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Speaker 1: my New Year's resolution this year was not a single resolution,
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Speaker 1: but it was just to spend eighteen minutes a day
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Speaker 1: doing something that made me happy and being really conscious
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Speaker 1: in like setting a time or reading a book or
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Speaker 1: calling a friend or whatever it is, even if it
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Speaker 1: was eighteen minutes of sleeping in and really at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day knowing what that eighteen minutes was,
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Speaker 1: because there's so many easy ways, our brain naturally will
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Speaker 1: go to, like whatever pissed us off that day, or
14:53
Speaker 1: whatever it was annoying if you miss the bus, or
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Speaker 1: if you know your boyfriend didn't unstate the dishwasher or
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Speaker 1: something like that, that's mine. Aha, it didn't do it again.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm kidding. But there's always a little thing that
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Speaker 1: you can find that's like, doesn't have to be super expensive,
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Speaker 1: doesn't have to cost money, and so often the things
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Speaker 1: that do actually make us feel so happy and that
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Speaker 1: probably are those eighteen minutes a day, don't actually cost
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. There's like this plan that you
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Speaker 1: can do where you write out, you know, what would
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Speaker 1: you do with your life if like money wasn't an option,
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Speaker 1: and you could be like I would go and get
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Speaker 1: a blow dry every week with a New York accent
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Speaker 1: as if I was at ninety years old. But so
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Speaker 1: often when I did this exercise, I found that everything
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Speaker 1: that I would do in a perfect day if money
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Speaker 1: was no option, was things that I already know and
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Speaker 1: already that I can do. It's sleeping in, it's going
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Speaker 1: for a swim, it's hanging out with friends, and when
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Speaker 1: you realize how in reach all of these things that
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Speaker 1: make you feel good are, it kind of makes you
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Speaker 1: really excited and happy. And I felt gassed. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I love that. But should we get into our game?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I got ready the paddles that they're ready. Okay, So
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Speaker 1: do you want to explain the rules because I always
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Speaker 1: butcher it.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: So we're gonna play a game of this or that.
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Speaker 2: Essentially, we're gonna be giving you like a skincare fact,
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Speaker 2: and you chickies are going to be using your paddles
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Speaker 2: to vote which answer you think is correct. Yea, So
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Speaker 2: we'll do the first answer can be the purple side,
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Speaker 2: and then the second answer can be the black side.
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Speaker 2: We'll walk you through it, but we'll say what color
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Speaker 2: for which? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, should we get into it?
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Speaker 1: Let's do it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, this or that we start losing collagen in our
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Speaker 2: twenties blue side or in our thirties black side.
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Speaker 1: I think, oh, okay, we're seeing a very large sea
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Speaker 1: of blue, which would be losing collagen our twenties. There's
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Speaker 1: a couple ofies in there. I see you hiding that pedal. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So it's actually in your twenty is it's blue?
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Speaker 3: Correct?
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Speaker 1: Good job everyone. Ye, that was a test and most
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Speaker 1: to be passed. There will be more in case you didn't,
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Speaker 1: But it's actually your twenties, and you lose up to
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Speaker 1: one percent of collagen every year from your twenties.
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Speaker 3: I'm thirty three and I'm concerned.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just turned thirty. And as much
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Speaker 1: as it was an iconic moment of Shannon Nole performing
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Speaker 1: at my birthday party that put the fear of God
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Speaker 1: in me, yeah, like Shannon, also, have you been using
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Speaker 1: your collagen? Yeah, I'm worried.
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Speaker 3: He's like, why are you still here? But I also think.
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Speaker 1: We haven't really learnt much about it as well. Like
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Speaker 1: I hadn't heard much about collagen when I was twenty
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Speaker 1: eons ago.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and it was back in the Stone Age exactly.
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Speaker 2: Collagen had only just been discovered. Seriously, Okay, next one,
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Speaker 2: this or that. Which of these collagen depleting habits is
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Speaker 2: more common? Doom scrolling or lack of sleep under seven hours?
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Speaker 1: This one's a tough one. Yeah, this one is a
18:08
Speaker 1: doom Scrolling is blue and lack of sleep is black.
18:15
Speaker 1: But I think it's skewing a little bit more towards
18:19
Speaker 1: lack of sleep.
18:20
Speaker 2: In the latest research with yugov n NTG, Aussie women
18:24
Speaker 2: engaged with doom scrolling as the number one habit which
18:29
Speaker 2: may cause collagen deplation through blue light.
18:34
Speaker 1: I know, So, how many of us are going to
18:37
Speaker 1: actually stop doom scrolling before bed now? Raise of hands?
18:43
Speaker 2: However, Yeah, but for anybody who did vote for lack
18:48
Speaker 2: of sleep, that was shortly followed, so you.
18:51
Speaker 3: Were still you were still kind of correct, exactly, You're
18:54
Speaker 3: on the right track.
18:55
Speaker 1: Everyone's Does anyone not sleep with their phone in their room?
19:00
Speaker 3: My god, you're better than one person at the front
19:04
Speaker 3: for the hand.
19:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, who wakes up and the first thing they do
19:08
Speaker 1: is pick up their phone? Yeah? Fair?
19:11
Speaker 3: Okay, we understand.
19:13
Speaker 1: Does anyone feel differently or will try to make different
19:17
Speaker 1: habits with their phone for bedtime?
19:20
Speaker 3: Now?
19:21
Speaker 1: Learning that? Okay, some.
19:27
Speaker 3: Okay, this or that?
19:30
Speaker 2: Which of these skin care behaviors do Aussie women regret
19:33
Speaker 2: more procrastinating their routine or jumping on a skin care
19:39
Speaker 2: problem too quickly.
19:41
Speaker 1: Procrastinating their routine or jumping on a skin care problem
19:44
Speaker 1: too Oh again, we have kind of a sea of
19:49
Speaker 1: blue which is procrastinating and then jumping on a skincare
19:53
Speaker 1: problem too quickly? Is the underdog so procrastinating?
19:58
Speaker 2: Eighty eight percent are putting off their skincare routine, and
20:01
Speaker 2: forty seven percent wish they'd started taking care of their
20:04
Speaker 2: skin sooner. So again, like we were talking about investing
20:07
Speaker 2: in things that make you feel rich in life, the
20:10
Speaker 2: sooner you start, the bearer off your bea.
20:12
Speaker 1: Where did you sit in that one? Procrastinating or jumping
20:16
Speaker 1: on a skincare problem too quickly?
20:17
Speaker 2: Jumping on a skincare problem too quickly? Yeah, does anybody
20:22
Speaker 2: else do this? Like you see an issue with your
20:26
Speaker 2: skin and then all of a sudden you feel like
20:27
Speaker 2: you're a mad scientist and you're like pulling in all
20:30
Speaker 2: of these skincare ingredients to try and address the problem.
20:33
Speaker 3: Then you're like your skin barriers, like what have you done?
20:35
Speaker 3: What have you done? Do you know what my thing was?
20:38
Speaker 1: When I was Yeah, when I was younger, so like
20:42
Speaker 1: burned it was good, but yeah that I was like, oh,
20:47
Speaker 1: if it's burning, it's working. And then it didn't go well, Yes,
20:52
Speaker 1: how well that went? And then I remember I went
20:54
Speaker 1: and saw especialists and they were like, you have no
20:57
Speaker 1: skin barrier, and I'm like, how did that happen? They're like,
21:03
Speaker 1: did you use a lot of you know, a lot
21:06
Speaker 1: of stuff when you're skin And I'm like, well, I
21:08
Speaker 1: use this and this, and they're like when, And I'm
21:12
Speaker 1: at the same time, what are you listening? Yeah? So
21:16
Speaker 1: I think I fall into both of those. I do think,
21:19
Speaker 1: you know, both of them are very natural reactions, like
21:23
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're tired. Sometimes you
21:26
Speaker 1: can't be bothered, and simple and effective routines have definitely become,
21:31
Speaker 1: you know, my go to. I definitely was like sixteen
21:36
Speaker 1: years old in like the YouTube era, watching everyone's like
21:39
Speaker 1: organization of like all their makeup and skincare, and I
21:41
Speaker 1: was like, I want that much make up on skincare.
21:43
Speaker 1: And I was like, I want to have a twenty
21:44
Speaker 1: step makeup and skincare routine. That anymore, I'm like, simple, kiss,
21:50
Speaker 1: keep it simple, stupid.
21:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
21:52
Speaker 2: Simplicity is okay, Okay, next one, okay, our final This
21:55
Speaker 2: or that Australian women are experts on collagen true or false?
22:04
Speaker 1: Oh okay? Lay that there are some blues out there.
22:09
Speaker 2: I love the wishful thinking, but for the chicks listening,
22:13
Speaker 2: it is pretty much a sea of lack.
22:16
Speaker 3: And you would be right.
22:18
Speaker 2: Of those surveyed by Yugav, not a single woman surveyed
22:22
Speaker 2: could decipher all of the collagen facts or fiction when
22:25
Speaker 2: it came to habits that may cause us to lose collagen.
22:29
Speaker 3: So for anybody who.
22:30
Speaker 2: Maybe got an answer incorrect, or you know, maybe you
22:34
Speaker 2: weren't you didn't have the most popular vote in the room,
22:37
Speaker 2: it is completely normal. Like, this is a very confusing
22:42
Speaker 2: topic and we've been told a lot of different things
22:45
Speaker 2: and it can feel a little bit daunting and stressful,
22:49
Speaker 2: but it doesn't have to be, which is why we
22:52
Speaker 2: are excited to bring up our guests. Doctor Shrea, come
22:57
Speaker 2: joining us.
23:01
Speaker 3: Hello, take a seats.
23:04
Speaker 1: Sit down.
23:05
Speaker 4: Join So much for having me. I've learnt so much already,
23:07
Speaker 4: and I meant to be the teacher.
23:09
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm going to do that thing that I
23:11
Speaker 2: love to do when we have guests on the show
23:13
Speaker 2: and I read out their like elevator pitchure and embarrass them.
23:16
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll shut my ears.
23:18
Speaker 3: No, just baskinet like.
23:20
Speaker 2: Luckily this is recorded so you can set it as
23:22
Speaker 2: your alarm for tomorrow morning, you know. Okay, So Today,
23:26
Speaker 2: we've got doctor Shreya andrak on the pod, a leading
23:29
Speaker 2: dermatologist and co director and principal Dermatologists of Northern Sydney
23:34
Speaker 2: Dermatology and Laser. Shreya specializes in everything from acne and
23:38
Speaker 2: pigmentation to surgical skin cancer care, plus cosmetic and laser treatments.
23:44
Speaker 2: Her approach is all about personalized, evidence based care with
23:48
Speaker 2: a real focus on how skin impacts confidence and well being.
23:51
Speaker 2: She's also a board director of the Australasian Society of
23:55
Speaker 2: Cosmetic Dermatologists and an International Fellow of the American Academy
23:59
Speaker 2: of Dermatology.
24:00
Speaker 3: Where and also her makeup looks amazing and she said
24:06
Speaker 3: she did it in five minutes.
24:08
Speaker 1: No, no, literally, this is a fly.
24:11
Speaker 3: Sat down and I was like.
24:13
Speaker 1: You look beautiful, of course you do. And I was like,
24:16
Speaker 1: your skin looks amazing, your makeup looks oh yes, I
24:21
Speaker 1: had all this stuff to do working in the clinic
24:23
Speaker 1: because she's an angel. And then she goes, I had
24:25
Speaker 1: to do it in five minutes.
24:27
Speaker 3: And we said we're canceling the pod.
24:28
Speaker 1: I was like, getting out this five minutes as well,
24:33
Speaker 1: but this credit there we.
24:35
Speaker 3: Go, yeah, exactly. We didn't even need Yeah, skin prep
24:42
Speaker 3: is Cayse.
24:42
Speaker 2: So we're going to be using our paddles again because
24:45
Speaker 2: we're playing a fun little game of buzz or bona
24:49
Speaker 2: fide with Traia. So we're going to give Treya like
24:51
Speaker 2: a skincare buzz word that you've probably seen all over
24:54
Speaker 2: the internet and the FYP and you're essentially going to
24:57
Speaker 2: tell us if it's a buzz aka a buzz word
25:01
Speaker 2: or bonafide like bonafide facts.
25:05
Speaker 1: I've really been thinking of it as like bonafide banger,
25:08
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, or a bonified bangery call it what
25:11
Speaker 1: you want. Yeah, Like that's like because whenever you know,
25:13
Speaker 1: whenever you hear a song that you haven't heard in
25:15
Speaker 1: ages and it like reminds you year ten disco, and
25:17
Speaker 1: you're like, that is a bonafide banger. So that's how
25:19
Speaker 1: I feel about these life lessons.
25:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's rebrand, okay, So buzzword or bonafide banger, Okay,
25:25
Speaker 2: because everybody everybody understands, we've got paddles at the ready, Okay.
25:29
Speaker 1: So just to clarify as well, the bonafide banger will
25:33
Speaker 1: be the blue side, and then the buzz word is
25:36
Speaker 1: the black side.
25:37
Speaker 2: Let's start off with a fun one buzz or bonafide collagen?
25:44
Speaker 1: Oh? Is collagen a buzzword? Or is it a bonafide
25:49
Speaker 1: banger banger?
25:51
Speaker 2: Sorry, we're seeing lots of blue.
25:55
Speaker 4: We're saying mostly blue, yeah, occasional blacks. All right, so
26:00
Speaker 4: let's let's just get this straight into Yes. So, basically collagen.
26:04
Speaker 4: Collagen is the most abundant protein that we have in
26:07
Speaker 4: the body. It is also the most abundant protein that
26:11
Speaker 4: we have in our skin, and it makes up seventy
26:13
Speaker 4: percent of the dermis. And basically, as you mentioned previously,
26:19
Speaker 4: we do start to lose collagen when we hit our
26:22
Speaker 4: mid twenties. So we start to lose about one percent
26:27
Speaker 4: per year. And then I know that not many people
26:30
Speaker 4: out there are close to this, but maybe there are.
26:33
Speaker 4: When we get to menopause, it really drops off a cliff.
26:36
Speaker 4: So we lose thirty percent in the five years following menopause.
26:41
Speaker 4: Great yeah, yeah, so lucky ass gurlies. So yes, So
26:47
Speaker 4: basically we want to do what we can to protect that, right.
26:51
Speaker 4: We don't want to be losing one percent because what
26:53
Speaker 4: happens when we lose our collagen we start to get
26:56
Speaker 4: a bit saggy. We start to see fine lines and wrinkles.
26:59
Speaker 4: The skin just overall looks dull. We get dark circles
27:03
Speaker 4: under the eyes, so it's not ideal, and so that's
27:07
Speaker 4: where we want to do things that can help to
27:10
Speaker 4: support that. Now, okay, can I ask a question, what
27:14
Speaker 4: if we put collagen straight onto our skin? Is that
27:18
Speaker 4: buzz or bona fide?
27:20
Speaker 1: Oh?
27:22
Speaker 2: I feel like we're saying mostly blacks.
27:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so correct, Because the collagen molecule is too big,
27:28
Speaker 4: so it can't penetrate through the layers of skin. And
27:32
Speaker 4: so therefore, by putting collagen directly onto the skin, that's
27:35
Speaker 4: not going to do anything. So then therefore we look
27:37
Speaker 4: at ingredients in skin care products, and so we're looking
27:41
Speaker 4: for things like, you know, we've got our peptides that
27:45
Speaker 4: can penetrate through the skin. But peptides, you know, question
27:50
Speaker 4: is again buzzle, bona fide, But peptides alone. You want
27:56
Speaker 4: to look for a product that is able to actually
27:59
Speaker 4: penetrate through this skin because those peptides are going to
28:02
Speaker 4: go down to the fibroblasts which make collagen, and they
28:06
Speaker 4: act as messengers, so they're going to say, hey, make
28:10
Speaker 4: more collagen so that we can be plump again. And
28:13
Speaker 4: so the collagen bank products, they have a patiented micro
28:17
Speaker 4: peptide which is tiny, tiny, and that's able to actually
28:20
Speaker 4: penetrate ten layers deep in the skin, and so that
28:23
Speaker 4: is going to then tell those cells to do their
28:26
Speaker 4: thing and help to kind of restore things, you know,
28:30
Speaker 4: So collagen, yes, we want to maintain that.
28:34
Speaker 1: I also think with collagen, it's like one of those
28:37
Speaker 1: words that you know is everywhere. But do you see
28:42
Speaker 1: a lot of people coming into the clinic that maybe
28:46
Speaker 1: have questions or concerns about their skin, and they don't
28:50
Speaker 1: realize that those concerns are actually related to collagen And
28:54
Speaker 1: I think it's something else entirely one hundred.
28:56
Speaker 4: Percent, because people come in to see me and they
28:59
Speaker 4: start to doing these ones, they go, hey, I just
29:02
Speaker 4: I want to do this, what can I do? And
29:04
Speaker 4: they don't realize that that comes from collagen loss over
29:07
Speaker 4: the years. So people don't come in to me saying, yeah,
29:12
Speaker 4: give me more collagen. They come in saying fix this.
29:15
Speaker 1: Well I've definitely done that in my life as well.
29:18
Speaker 3: So yeah, and being like no, like fix it right.
29:21
Speaker 1: Now, immediately, right now.
29:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, But a lot of these things are long term investments, right,
29:27
Speaker 2: So revery quick fix.
29:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so no quick fixes in general with skincare.
29:34
Speaker 4: You want to make that long term investment. Just like
29:36
Speaker 4: you invest your money, you want to invest in your skin.
29:39
Speaker 4: So you want to be doing the things that are
29:42
Speaker 4: going to stop your collagen breakdown in the first place.
29:45
Speaker 1: So what's that.
29:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, asking for the RDEN not for selfish reasons.
29:52
Speaker 4: So sunscreen every day. UV light is the number one
29:55
Speaker 4: thing that breaks down your collagen. So where the sunscreen
29:59
Speaker 4: every day and do it for the rest of your
30:01
Speaker 4: life and tell your kids to do it, and just
30:04
Speaker 4: tell everyone to do it. Then you want to be
30:08
Speaker 4: using things like a retinol or like a plant based
30:11
Speaker 4: retinoal alternative. If that's too irritating for your skin, so
30:14
Speaker 4: something like bercuccio and that is going to help to
30:18
Speaker 4: increase skin cell turnover. It also helps to stimulate collagen
30:21
Speaker 4: and lastin production. Peptides are ideal for people who they're
30:26
Speaker 4: basically ideal for everyone. So if you have sensitive skin,
30:30
Speaker 4: then peptides are a really great product because they're generally
30:32
Speaker 4: tested on all skin types and so you like, you
30:37
Speaker 4: can't really go wrong with the peptides.
30:39
Speaker 1: Good to know, Yeah, writing that down all right, shall
30:42
Speaker 1: we get into our next one?
30:43
Speaker 2: Okay, our next buzz or bona fide bougie skin care?
30:48
Speaker 1: So do you think skincare that is more expensive is better?
30:54
Speaker 1: Or a buzzword? Oh we have a couple blues, but
31:00
Speaker 1: mainly we have blacks.
31:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think share?
31:05
Speaker 4: Okay, buzz I had to think of which one of
31:07
Speaker 4: myselfs which is good, which one's bad? Yeah, don't come
31:11
Speaker 4: like buzzy, you know. Yeah, but yes, so buzzword. But
31:16
Speaker 4: you know, if you want to spend lots of money
31:18
Speaker 4: on skincare, then you can, but it's not again, we're
31:21
Speaker 4: talking about consistency here. We're talking about investing in your skin,
31:24
Speaker 4: doing it lifelong, and sometimes cost comes into the picture.
31:30
Speaker 4: So bigger companies can afford to sell their products for
31:35
Speaker 4: a bit less because they have that money to be
31:38
Speaker 4: able to pass, you know, pass on the savings. So
31:42
Speaker 4: they're the ones who are able to invest in all
31:44
Speaker 4: of the research and development, and then they are able
31:48
Speaker 4: to pass those savings onto their customers. So you don't
31:53
Speaker 4: need to be spending so like hundreds and thousands of
31:56
Speaker 4: dollars on skincare when you can find very affordable product
32:00
Speaker 4: at the supermarket at the chemist.
32:02
Speaker 1: Love that. When we're trying to find good quality in skincare,
32:06
Speaker 1: what should we be looking out for instead of the price.
32:10
Speaker 4: So you want to be looking at the ingredients themselves.
32:13
Speaker 4: You want to be looking at patented technology. You want
32:18
Speaker 4: to see what those studies show, because you know often
32:22
Speaker 4: those beer companies will put out their research studies, So
32:25
Speaker 4: you want to be looking at.
32:26
Speaker 1: All of those things. Love that.
32:28
Speaker 3: Okay, Next, buzz or bona fide?
32:32
Speaker 1: Anti aging?
32:34
Speaker 2: What do we think is anti aging a buzz or
32:38
Speaker 2: is it bona fide?
32:39
Speaker 3: It's kind of very mixed.
32:41
Speaker 1: This is very off and half, which I completely understand
32:46
Speaker 1: because anti aging is a phrase that we hear tossed
32:49
Speaker 1: around a lot. But can a product actually be anti aging?
32:53
Speaker 1: Is it a buzz or is it bona fide buzz?
32:56
Speaker 1: So but damn, maybe this is a me thing.
33:03
Speaker 4: Maybe because as a dermatologist, I don't love the term
33:06
Speaker 4: anti aging. You know, it's a privilege to get older.
33:10
Speaker 4: We all want to be getting older, so we want
33:14
Speaker 4: to be pro aging, but we want to be doing
33:16
Speaker 4: it in the best way that we can. So we
33:19
Speaker 4: want to be you know, investing in the products that
33:23
Speaker 4: have you know that research behind them, and the things
33:26
Speaker 4: that when we talk about aging, what we see on
33:28
Speaker 4: the skin are like I mentioned before, the sagging, We
33:32
Speaker 4: see fine lines and wrinkles, we see pigmentation, and so
33:36
Speaker 4: looking for ingredients that are going to target all of
33:39
Speaker 4: those things and using them consistently.
33:41
Speaker 2: Is this something that you've always, like a marcher, that
33:44
Speaker 2: you've always had or is it something that you've learned
33:46
Speaker 2: as you've gotten older, and especially in clinic as well
33:49
Speaker 2: working with so many different people.
33:51
Speaker 4: I think this is something that I think it's something
33:54
Speaker 4: that has changed over the years, Like with my patients,
33:57
Speaker 4: I think now we're leaning more towards skin quality over
34:03
Speaker 4: changing the way that we look and which I think
34:06
Speaker 4: is such a positive thing. So people are really focusing
34:09
Speaker 4: on skin glow and improving their pigmentation.
34:12
Speaker 1: And I also was so impressed with the before and
34:15
Speaker 1: afters of the I cream as well, and how did
34:18
Speaker 1: the ingredients and the I cream kind of make it
34:21
Speaker 1: such a standout.
34:22
Speaker 4: So we've got those micropeptides in there as well, and
34:25
Speaker 4: it also has nice cinnamite in there, which is like
34:27
Speaker 4: my favorite skincare ingredient, mostly because again everyone can use
34:31
Speaker 4: it. It reduces inflammation in the skin. It restores the skin barrier,
34:35
Speaker 4: and it will help with those duck circles under the eyes.
34:39
Speaker 4: So that combo of those micropeptides and the nice cinema,
34:43
Speaker 4: it's just nice. It's also really nice undermining, Yes, really
34:51
Speaker 4: nice under makeup and things like that. Is it just
34:53
Speaker 4: helps to hydrate before you put your makeup on.
34:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's more about embracing the signs of absolutely that.
35:00
Speaker 2: When we were chatting before the pod, one of my
35:03
Speaker 2: favorite things that you said was, it's about maintaining your
35:06
Speaker 2: skin health rather than really trying to change it and
35:09
Speaker 2: who you are.
35:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. So yeah, just get it good and keep
35:14
Speaker 4: it good.
35:14
Speaker 1: Oh I like that.
35:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, buzz or bona fide, eat your skin care.
35:21
Speaker 2: So collagen powders, supplements, drinking water even like diet in
35:27
Speaker 2: relation to skin.
35:28
Speaker 1: This could be controversial.
35:30
Speaker 4: Most dematologists don't like collagen supplements because the evidence, the
35:35
Speaker 4: evidence is pretty minimal. There is more evidence for your
35:40
Speaker 4: sun protection, for your retinals, your peptides, all of those things,
35:45
Speaker 4: rather than drinking your collagen because it will go wherever
35:49
Speaker 4: it's needed. It's not like you can drink collagen and say, hey,
35:53
Speaker 4: go straight to my skin.
35:55
Speaker 1: There's a lot of evidence for joints.
35:57
Speaker 4: So if you have joint troubles then you know, and
36:02
Speaker 4: you want to do something for your joints on your skin,
36:04
Speaker 4: give it a go. I have no issues with people
36:07
Speaker 4: trying it if they have the budget for it and
36:09
Speaker 4: continuing it for about three months, and if you don't
36:12
Speaker 4: find that it's helpful for you, then give it a flip.
36:14
Speaker 1: Fair enough?
36:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.
36:17
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's a rat is. That was so queet.
36:21
Speaker 3: I know, I'm so sad, but Shrea.
36:25
Speaker 2: For any of the chicks who aren't already either in
36:28
Speaker 2: the room or who are listening at home, where can
36:30
Speaker 2: they find you and learn more about you?
36:32
Speaker 4: Oh so I practice at Northern Sydney Dermatology and Lisa
36:36
Speaker 4: in north Bridge and you can find me on Instagram
36:40
Speaker 4: doctor schwer Andrik.
36:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a bonus question. I know. I would
36:46
Speaker 1: love to know if there was something that you could
36:48
Speaker 1: go back and tell your younger self to do more
36:51
Speaker 1: for your future self. And you can't say SBF because
36:56
Speaker 1: we already know that one what would your future self
37:00
Speaker 1: favor be that you would tell your younger self this
37:04
Speaker 1: is I know I've put you on the spot.
37:08
Speaker 3: So much wisdom.
37:09
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be skin related or anything.
37:12
Speaker 4: Well, what's your biggest I have my sisters sitting here
37:15
Speaker 4: in the front row, So any have I given you
37:19
Speaker 4: any advice?
37:24
Speaker 2: Her sisters in the front row Sai'd be nice, And
37:27
Speaker 2: I thought maybe you were going to say stop stealing
37:29
Speaker 2: our clothes or something like that.
37:31
Speaker 1: All the way around. Yeah, hence I am mean, well
37:37
Speaker 1: that can be our wrap. Yeah.
37:40
Speaker 2: I think that's a good life lesson to the show.
37:43
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us, and of course
37:46
Speaker 2: you Oh my god, it was.
37:48
Speaker 3: Our absolute pleasure.
37:49
Speaker 2: I have learnt so much, And thank you to Nutrigena
37:51
Speaker 2: for having us and for having everyone here tonight and
37:55
Speaker 2: making this podcast possible. Before everybody heads out, please make
37:59
Speaker 2: sure you go and get your skin scan. You can
38:02
Speaker 2: see your real skin age.
38:04
Speaker 1: You can also scan a little barcode at the end
38:06
Speaker 1: and they send you the whole report, so then you
38:08
Speaker 1: can kind of use that as some homework.
38:10
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, get really into the data and the analytics.
38:14
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38:24
Speaker 2: space and as you would have seen lots of nibblis.
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Speaker 3: And drinks floating around, so please say habitat and enjoy.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, everyone,