Latest / Ron Verb / Thursday 6pm hour 06/11/26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, it's Thursday edition 606 of Money Talks with John
- 0:04Speaker 1: Arnold on NewsRadio 570. We bring John on board and
- 0:08Speaker 1: there is plenty to talk about tonight, John, to say
- 0:11Speaker 1: the least. Big, big day on the market. Big up
- 0:14Speaker 1: day on the market. First, let's get some analysis of
- 0:17Speaker 1: the market, the economy, and the Trump effect and everything else.
- 0:25Speaker 1: I don't know if we have enough time to cover
- 0:26Speaker 1: all of that.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Yeah, it starts with volatility, as we've talked about. I
- 0:31Speaker 2: know that if I'm sick of talking about it, I
- 0:35Speaker 2: know you and the audience are sick of talking about it,
- 0:37Speaker 2: so I don't know what else to say other than
- 0:38Speaker 2: the truth. Trump and volatility equal each other, and I've
- 0:43Speaker 2: never seen anything like it, which is something he always
- 0:46Speaker 2: says ironically, but I've really not seen a president talk
- 0:49Speaker 2: and literally make two sentences and literally change the direction
- 0:53Speaker 2: of the market within the day or within the week,
- 0:55Speaker 2: and he does that. I don't know if it's somewhat...
- 0:58Speaker 2: Donald Trump and social media, because it didn't really exist
- 1:02Speaker 2: in the Reagan years and the Clinton years, but I
- 1:04Speaker 2: do know he does it. And with the social media,
- 1:07Speaker 2: it will change direction on the market within milliseconds. And
- 1:10Speaker 2: it's both bad and good. It's good for guys like me.
- 1:12Speaker 2: I love making, you know, if you can catch me
- 1:14Speaker 2: and you, you know, in the 830, 870 area, and
- 1:17Speaker 2: it goes up to 990 in two days, that's good
- 1:20Speaker 2: for me. But if you're somebody that's like on the
- 1:23Speaker 2: rock part, you're trying to manage wealth for people retiring,
- 1:26Speaker 2: you're that's really fearful and disheartening. So it really drives
- 1:30Speaker 2: the average investor, um, crazy, probably the average investment advisor crazy.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Cause they're just trying to make sense of it for
- 1:37Speaker 2: guys like me that are managing training stuff all day
- 1:39Speaker 2: and within the market. It's great. But, uh, You know,
- 1:42Speaker 2: it's volatility in Trump, and the Trump effect is good
- 1:47Speaker 2: and bad for both sides of the party.
- 1:49Speaker 1: We're just going to have to wait and see to
- 1:51Speaker 1: see if, first and foremost, if this.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Materializes.
- 1:58Speaker 1: We've been told so many times we're close to a deal,
- 2:01Speaker 1: and we're told it again this time. And the market
- 2:06Speaker 1: has reacted most of the time when he says this
- 2:09Speaker 1: kind of stuff, right?
- 2:12Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought, you know, J.D., I talked about
- 2:15Speaker 2: this a couple weeks ago when J.D. Vance was on television.
- 2:18Speaker 2: It could have been on the podcast maybe with you,
- 2:20Speaker 2: but he openly said, I'm very, very, very confident that
- 2:25Speaker 2: oil prices are going to come down this summer. And
- 2:27Speaker 2: sure enough, literally that next few days, they started drastically
- 2:30Speaker 2: coming down. And it was kind of like a handshake
- 2:33Speaker 2: agreement on the table. Then Iron was living up to
- 2:35Speaker 2: their end. U.S. was kind of living up to their art,
- 2:38Speaker 2: to theirs. And then I think Israel, you know, kind
- 2:42Speaker 2: of kicked the can off the lid again and started
- 2:44Speaker 2: attacking Lebanon, and Trump and Israel got in a fight,
- 2:46Speaker 2: and Iran didn't really give a you-know-what and started attacking us.
- 2:50Speaker 2: So you can't just start, you know, blasting our allies,
- 2:53Speaker 2: et cetera, because they consider Israel the same as the
- 2:55Speaker 2: United States. So I do see their point. They look
- 2:59Speaker 2: at it like we're breaking the truce. We look at
- 3:01Speaker 2: it like they're breaking the truce. But at the end
- 3:03Speaker 2: of the day, you know, Trump has probably said a
- 3:05Speaker 2: billion times now that this thing's coming to an end.
- 3:07Speaker 2: We're around the corner from a ink in a deal,
- 3:10Speaker 2: and it never happens. And so he's cried wolf so
- 3:13Speaker 2: much that, you know, even people like me that support him,
- 3:15Speaker 2: it's hard to believe in anything they say. And it's
- 3:20Speaker 2: frustrating because he has so many great policies, and I
- 3:23Speaker 2: think he's taken us back in the right direction, but
- 3:26Speaker 2: stuff like this really affects the market and affects the voters. Right.
- 3:30Speaker 1: So needless to say, by him saying what he said
- 3:34Speaker 1: today and by taking this Trump cancels the Iran strike
- 3:39Speaker 1: scheduled for this evening. And by doing that and then
- 3:43Speaker 1: claiming that a deal is near, the market goes up
- 3:47Speaker 1: huge today, absolutely huge. So you're operating now your hedge funds.
- 3:55Speaker 1: And when you guys are dealing from a hedge fund standpoint,
- 4:00Speaker 1: this type of day is a good day then, is
- 4:04Speaker 1: it not?
- 4:06Speaker 2: It's a nice one day because if I can get, like...
- 4:09Speaker 2: I'm going to throw, like, some free data out there.
- 4:11Speaker 2: If I can get MU, which is Micron, at such
- 4:14Speaker 2: a discount, and NASA, which is a space technology stock,
- 4:20Speaker 2: and even, like, let's just throw something that everybody knows
- 4:23Speaker 2: out there, SPY, which is SP for 100. If I
- 4:25Speaker 2: can get that, you know, ridiculous discount, that to me
- 4:29Speaker 2: is like going to Giant Eagle with 50% off coupons
- 4:31Speaker 2: and buying groceries. So... it's a no brainer for a
- 4:35Speaker 2: guy like me. And, and, and yeah, I mean, I, I, uh,
- 4:39Speaker 2: you know, obviously I didn't give the whole kit and caboodle,
- 4:41Speaker 2: but I did give you, you know, some, some pretty
- 4:44Speaker 2: pointed things. If you were to do your research, like
- 4:46Speaker 2: it was pretty easy for somebody who knows how to
- 4:48Speaker 2: manage money to make some money on those pullbacks. Again,
- 4:51Speaker 2: what I feel bad is for the people who don't
- 4:53Speaker 2: know how to manage money or the average investment person
- 4:57Speaker 2: that looks at the 401k a couple of times a month,
- 5:00Speaker 2: which is all they should. And they say, Holy, you know,
- 5:02Speaker 2: Holy crap. you know, 5% loss in a week, and
- 5:06Speaker 2: it's a drastic over-the-cliff drop. So, you know, again, good
- 5:11Speaker 2: for hedge fund traders and money managers, terrible for people
- 5:15Speaker 2: that are normal and that are not doing that.
- 5:18Speaker 1: But one thing you've got to say, though, even if
- 5:20Speaker 1: you saw just the normal investor, if you saw things
- 5:23Speaker 1: go down or the market go down, the upside is
- 5:27Speaker 1: pretty huge as well. So a lot of times all
- 5:29Speaker 1: that down is erased on a good day like today, perhaps.
- 5:35Speaker 2: No, yeah, I mean, no, no, listen, I'm going to
- 5:38Speaker 2: tell you, I'm behind on some of my positions, not
- 5:40Speaker 2: a lot, but I know I didn't get full-blown profit
- 5:44Speaker 2: on some things that I was in, but it drastically
- 5:47Speaker 2: changed today, let's just say that. The overall portfolio, I
- 5:50Speaker 2: thought it was, I'll be honest with you, I thought
- 5:52Speaker 2: it was going to be the end-of-the-month type situation. I
- 5:54Speaker 2: really did. But, you know, it's coming out tonight, right,
- 5:57Speaker 2: the IPO?
- 5:58Speaker 3: Yes, you're talking SpaceX IPO. What are your thoughts?
- 6:02Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Uh, my thoughts are that you gotta be
- 6:06Speaker 2: really careful here because maybe they overpriced it. You know, tomorrow,
- 6:10Speaker 2: tomorrow is a big day because usually after you have
- 6:12Speaker 2: a 900 point or 650 point, and I'm, I'm kind
- 6:16Speaker 2: of exaggerating. I think it was six 40, uh, IPO. Um,
- 6:21Speaker 2: that's probably going to be a profit taking day tomorrow.
- 6:24Speaker 2: So you probably, you should, again, should be the keyword.
- 6:28Speaker 2: You should have somewhat of a profit taking day. So, um,
- 6:33Speaker 2: for the IPO to come out tomorrow like it's going
- 6:35Speaker 2: to on a profit-taking day could hurt it. And I'm
- 6:39Speaker 2: talking in coulds, and I keep emphasizing that. But they're
- 6:43Speaker 2: saying it's going to come out, and I haven't got
- 6:45Speaker 2: the check because I was preparing for the show, $ 135
- 6:47Speaker 2: a share. The ticker is SPCX. They're looking to raise
- 6:53Speaker 2: $ 75 billion, the largest in history. And here's the killer.
- 6:57Speaker 2: This is the thing that a human brain, including mine,
- 7:00Speaker 2: can't wrap around. Well, and they're going to raise they're
- 7:03Speaker 2: probably going to have a valuation, excuse me, they're going
- 7:06Speaker 2: to have a valuation, $ 1. 8 trillion, the T word, trillion.
- 7:11Speaker 2: So if you can wrap your head around an IPO
- 7:15Speaker 2: that's going to create a company that has a valuation
- 7:17Speaker 2: of $ 1. 8 trillion, I don't know what to say. It's just,
- 7:22Speaker 2: I think it's just mind-blowing. I never thought I'd see
- 7:24Speaker 2: that in my lifetime.
- 7:26Speaker 1: And I mean, that one stock, It could have an
- 7:29Speaker 1: effect on the market tomorrow, just that one stock alone,
- 7:32Speaker 1: could it.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Not? Yeah, I'm assuming that's going to be the NASDAQ.
- 7:36Speaker 2: I don't think that it applied for the Dow Jones.
- 7:38Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to. I don't know
- 7:40Speaker 2: if the exchange is going to hit, obviously. But, yes,
- 7:44Speaker 2: I do believe that could sway the market a little bit,
- 7:48Speaker 2: depending on how it comes out. Like, again, if it
- 7:50Speaker 2: comes out at 135 and the market thinks it's worth
- 7:53Speaker 2: 100 and there's a minus 35% on the share price tomorrow, Again,
- 7:59Speaker 2: just a complete hypothetical scenario. That could rock the market.
- 8:02Speaker 2: You could say, you know, wait a minute, this thing
- 8:04Speaker 2: is not as great as everybody says. You know, the
- 8:07Speaker 2: stakes might work the sizzle. So tomorrow is going to
- 8:13Speaker 2: be a record-changing day tomorrow either way on the stock
- 8:15Speaker 2: market as far as IPOs go. And I'm behind. I'm
- 8:19Speaker 2: an Elon Musk fan. I think you are too.
- 8:21Speaker 1: And there's plenty of people that are that way that
- 8:23Speaker 1: are probably interested in getting in long-term maybe.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Absolutely. Again, if you're a long-term holder and you can
- 8:32Speaker 2: get on the secondary market after it comes off the IPO,
- 8:35Speaker 2: and you think it's a value price or target price,
- 8:37Speaker 2: you live with it. That's it. But if you're trying
- 8:39Speaker 2: to day trade SpaceX tomorrow after it comes off the IPO,
- 8:45Speaker 2: I think you're a fool. So we'll see what happens.
- 8:49Speaker 2: It is trading on the NASDAQ tomorrow. So... We're going
- 8:55Speaker 2: to see. Tomorrow's going to be a crazy day. Crazy,
- 8:57Speaker 2: crazy day.
- 8:58Speaker 1: So there's many variables tomorrow with this market that went
- 9:01Speaker 1: up high today. If there's profit-taking, you're saying, and this
- 9:05Speaker 1: SpaceX IPO, going to be a unique day to a
- 9:08Speaker 1: certain extent.
- 9:10Speaker 2: It is. Again, I mean, for a NASDAQ, they go
- 9:13Speaker 2: up 640, and the Dow Jones will go up 900
- 9:15Speaker 2: and something. Typically, after those days, you get profit-taking days.
- 9:19Speaker 2: It's easy money for people that are trading. So they
- 9:21Speaker 2: could artificially bring that down just because the overall market
- 9:24Speaker 2: could be down. I have zero factual basis on what
- 9:29Speaker 2: I'm saying. This is truly a guess like anybody else.
- 9:32Speaker 2: So I just want to make that clear.
- 9:34Speaker 1: I didn't know if you wanted to, I forgot to
- 9:36Speaker 1: ask you about your opening statement that you usually like
- 9:39Speaker 1: to read before we get started.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:41Speaker 3: Go ahead.
- 9:41Speaker 2: I'll just say, you know, the money talk show is
- 9:44Speaker 2: strictly for investment advice purposes. It's educational, strictly no investment advice.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Please consult your own tax advisor and or investment professional
- 9:54Speaker 2: before making any investment decisions. All markets carry the risk
- 9:58Speaker 2: of loss of principle.
- 9:59Speaker 1: So when you take a look at if Trump does
- 10:03Speaker 1: this ceasefire, he says an agreement is basically a done deal.
- 10:07Speaker 3: They just got to sign off on it.
- 10:09Speaker 1: If that stuff doesn't materialize, as we've seen in the past,
- 10:14Speaker 1: I mean, that can have a negative effect on the market.
- 10:17Speaker 1: If it doesn't materialize, we could see oil prices go
- 10:19Speaker 1: back up. We could see the stock market go back down.
- 10:23Speaker 1: That's how volatile this situation is.
- 10:27Speaker 3: Agree?
- 10:28Speaker 2: Yeah. I think any time I got talks, this is
- 10:32Speaker 2: old hat, but tariff, inflation, interest rates, space, Iran war,
- 10:38Speaker 2: whatever he says, there's a magnet to the market on it,
- 10:41Speaker 2: and he can flow it either way. But I think
- 10:43Speaker 2: that tomorrow, I don't see the market going down crazy.
- 10:47Speaker 2: I mean, you have two pieces of great news coming.
- 10:50Speaker 2: I think that they're probably going to come with some
- 10:52Speaker 2: kind of artificial handshake tomorrow with Iran or tonight. And
- 10:56Speaker 2: I think that, you know, SpaceX is probably going to
- 10:59Speaker 2: be a positive thing tomorrow. I really do. All right.
- 11:02Speaker 2: So let me tell you something that, you know, relates
- 11:05Speaker 2: to the firm that bought me. So me, I read
- 11:07Speaker 2: every Monday to kind of. do our thing on the investments.
- 11:12Speaker 2: We consult with each other to help the clients at Rockport.
- 11:15Speaker 2: And two weeks ago, we put together some stuff that's
- 11:18Speaker 2: going to capture SpaceX. So really proud of that. So
- 11:21Speaker 2: if the folks are listening that are with Rockport, I
- 11:26Speaker 2: would say contact Joe and Adam and talk about some
- 11:29Speaker 2: of the moves we made. I think they'll be very happy.
- 11:31Speaker 3: All right. Glad to hear that. So let's talk a
- 11:35Speaker 3: little bit about your hedge funds.
- 11:37Speaker 1: John Arnold has started his hedge fund, 100 investors, still
- 11:42Speaker 1: some slots open. Once it reaches 100, it's closed off.
- 11:45Speaker 1: So if you're interested in investing in June, you wouldn't
- 11:49Speaker 1: be into the fund until July, correct?
- 11:53Speaker 3: July 1st. That's correct. Okay, if I have it accurate.
- 11:57Speaker 1: So if you're interested in getting into the hedge fund
- 12:01Speaker 1: that is managed by John Arnold and a couple of
- 12:04Speaker 1: other folks.
- 12:05Speaker 3: We'll get into them momentarily.
- 12:07Speaker 1: If you're interested in getting into that, we'll let you
- 12:09Speaker 1: know how to do that phone number-wise and website-wise momentarily.
- 12:14Speaker 1: So stand by for that. I want to talk to
- 12:16Speaker 1: you about your hedge fund and what you were saying
- 12:19Speaker 1: about the VIX last week and versus what happens.
- 12:24Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I'm not trying to say I have
- 12:27Speaker 2: a crystal ball or I'm predicting the market. I'm just
- 12:29Speaker 2: saying last week on our show, I said... I was
- 12:33Speaker 2: pretty worried because the VIX was in that 14 to
- 12:35Speaker 2: 16 range. I want to say 15 to 16. And
- 12:38Speaker 2: the last time it was in that 15, 16 range,
- 12:40Speaker 2: it really spiked up in the 20s. And then sure enough,
- 12:46Speaker 2: what followed was the market took a really big kick
- 12:50Speaker 2: in the ass. And this exact same pattern happened right
- 12:53Speaker 2: after the show. So that VIX went down to that 15,
- 12:56Speaker 2: 16 mark. And sure enough, well, listen, they're interchangeably. What
- 13:03Speaker 2: I'm saying is they work hand in hand. So market
- 13:05Speaker 2: goes down, VIX goes down, VIX goes down, market goes down.
- 13:09Speaker 2: So they kind of beat off each other. So the
- 13:13Speaker 2: reason for me telling you that is it was kind
- 13:16Speaker 2: of cool to see that it reacted like I thought
- 13:19Speaker 2: would happen because there really wasn't bad news up until
- 13:23Speaker 2: that point. But that VIX had been trending down, which
- 13:26Speaker 2: means there was too much calm. And too much calm
- 13:30Speaker 2: usually equals something around the corner to spike it a
- 13:33Speaker 2: little bit. And I need to say, something you probably
- 13:37Speaker 2: need to talk about that should have drove people crazy,
- 13:39Speaker 2: and I mean crazy, is what caused the first volatility
- 13:43Speaker 2: movement was the fact that the jobs report came out
- 13:45Speaker 2: too good. That is mind-blowing to me. I still can't,
- 13:49Speaker 2: being 50 and being through various markets, bear and bull,
- 13:53Speaker 2: I can't wrap my head around that good news is
- 13:55Speaker 2: bad news. And when I say bad news, I mean
- 13:58Speaker 2: minus 1,000 points on the Dow Jones bad news.
- 14:00Speaker 3: Because of a good jobs report?
- 14:03Speaker 4: Yes.
- 14:03Speaker 2: That's the underlying great thing about the American economy is
- 14:07Speaker 2: our people have jobs. They're not socialist jobs. They're true jobs.
- 14:11Speaker 2: And that brought the market down. I'm not talking like
- 14:14Speaker 2: 200 points. I'm talking 1,000 points.
- 14:17Speaker 3: Explain that. That doesn't make a lick of sense to me.
- 14:20Speaker 2: But that's been going on, man. That's been going on.
- 14:22Speaker 2: We talk about, and Andrew Smith used to talk about
- 14:25Speaker 2: this with me, the crack in the market is interest rates.
- 14:27Speaker 2: And corporate America is addicted to low interest rates. Good
- 14:32Speaker 2: job reports means that the Fed doesn't have a reason
- 14:36Speaker 2: to decrease interest rates, which means corporate America can't. get
- 14:39Speaker 2: on the government-free kid anymore. That's what that means. That
- 14:42Speaker 2: is flat-out, bottom-line talk what that means. That means no
- 14:46Speaker 2: freebies on the interest rates. Corporate America has to pay
- 14:50Speaker 2: a little bit like we do for financing projects and
- 14:53Speaker 2: different things and services. That's exactly what that means. So
- 14:57Speaker 2: good JAWS report now equals bad interest rate, which, in
- 15:02Speaker 2: my opinion, is good interest rate. No interest rate move
- 15:05Speaker 2: is good interest rate move because any time... You're playing
- 15:07Speaker 2: around with something artificial in our economy. You win the
- 15:11Speaker 2: battle and you lose the war. So I'm just calling
- 15:14Speaker 2: it like I see it. It's bonkers to me. I
- 15:18Speaker 2: think it was used for big money to have an
- 15:19Speaker 2: excuse to run the market down. But at the end
- 15:24Speaker 2: of the day, it did go down based on that.
- 15:27Speaker 2: And then the follow-up was Iran and the United States
- 15:31Speaker 2: and Israel all went out each other again. And there
- 15:36Speaker 2: clearly is not a ceasefire. I don't know. For me,
- 15:39Speaker 2: it's like when you say there's a ceasefire and you're
- 15:43Speaker 2: still bombing each other, that to me is not a ceasefire.
- 15:45Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. It's like almost we
- 15:50Speaker 2: speak different languages now after COVID. It's unbelievable to me. Yeah, yeah.
- 15:54Speaker 1: A ceasefire doesn't mean you keep on firing. I always
- 15:58Speaker 1: took it literally. But apparently it's different is what you're saying.
- 16:02Speaker 2: There's so many, like, men aren't women anymore, cops are bad,
- 16:05Speaker 2: criminals are good. I feel like I live in a
- 16:08Speaker 2: bizarre world. Jaws report equals bad. Great Jaws report equals bad,
- 16:13Speaker 2: bad market. I live in a backwards world.
- 16:15Speaker 1: What effect, if any, does this new Fed chairman going
- 16:19Speaker 1: to have? I mean, is that, and what are your
- 16:21Speaker 1: thoughts about it?
- 16:24Speaker 2: Well, from a greed standpoint, he's good for me, he's
- 16:27Speaker 2: good for corporate America. You know, corporate America getting, okay,
- 16:30Speaker 2: let me back up why I'm saying this. I think,
- 16:34Speaker 2: you know, he is, without saying wink-wink, is going to
- 16:37Speaker 2: do what Trump pleases, okay? I think the reason why
- 16:40Speaker 2: Jerome Powell and Trump didn't get along is because Jerome
- 16:42Speaker 2: Powell was basically his own man, which you've got to
- 16:45Speaker 2: give a lot of credit for. In addition to that,
- 16:48Speaker 2: I think he swung a little bit left, and I
- 16:50Speaker 2: think he probably did things in spite of Trump.
- 16:55Speaker 1: It seemed to me, and I would want to ask
- 16:57Speaker 1: you this, it seemed to me he navigated the economy well.
- 17:01Speaker 1: pretty good during some difficult times.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Yes.
- 17:05Speaker 1: I mean, I can't look at him and say, boy,
- 17:08Speaker 1: this guy did a lousy job. We had some difficult
- 17:11Speaker 1: times when he was running a Fed, and it seemed
- 17:13Speaker 1: like we didn't have any major disruptions with him at
- 17:18Speaker 1: the helm.
- 17:19Speaker 3: Would you agree?
- 17:19Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. I'm a
- 17:23Speaker 2: guy who calls it like I see it. With or
- 17:26Speaker 2: against him, I agree with that sentiment totally. It's a
- 17:30Speaker 2: math thing, and the math says he eased into it
- 17:34Speaker 2: to where people forget how bad 2022 was, and that's
- 17:38Speaker 2: because they had raised interest rates too fast, right? So
- 17:43Speaker 2: he gradually brought them down to what I think is
- 17:45Speaker 2: an equilibrium, which is fair. Hey, I think six and
- 17:48Speaker 2: a quarter, six and a half percent for a mortgage
- 17:49Speaker 2: loan is fair. I know everybody wants three, four. That's
- 17:53Speaker 2: what I got. Hell, if I could refinance my building
- 17:55Speaker 2: at four right now, I'd do it today. But my
- 17:57Speaker 2: point is... But 6% is fair, which is what I'm paying.
- 18:03Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying? Yes. So I think that
- 18:07Speaker 2: he eased it to where he didn't create more superinflation.
- 18:11Speaker 2: In the long run, I think he probably helped Trump.
- 18:14Speaker 2: But I think Trump is in a situation where he's
- 18:17Speaker 2: trying to spend himself out of inflation. And maybe that
- 18:20Speaker 2: will work. Maybe it won't. One of the things that
- 18:23Speaker 2: I know that they're doing behind the scenes in the
- 18:24Speaker 2: long run, that's what Ed Scruggs, remember the guy that
- 18:27Speaker 2: I had on the show, Scott and Gabe and those guys,
- 18:30Speaker 2: they think that Trump might be right here because with
- 18:33Speaker 2: AI taking over, this is the chess move, I think,
- 18:37Speaker 2: that they're playing, J.D. Vance and the Trump party. I
- 18:40Speaker 2: think that with AI kind of taking a lot of jobs,
- 18:44Speaker 2: that's going to affect the inflation, right? Because now a
- 18:48Speaker 2: jobs reporter should start to come down, which would give
- 18:54Speaker 2: reason for decreasing interest rates in the future. We think
- 18:58Speaker 2: that is the chess game as money managers, as fund managers.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Can't prove it, but really on the cover of the magazine,
- 19:04Speaker 2: what they're doing doesn't make sense. If they want to
- 19:06Speaker 2: decrease interest rates, it typically, and Andrew would verify this,
- 19:10Speaker 2: that typically is going to cause more inflation. So the
- 19:13Speaker 2: decrease interest rates usually, now I think that the counterbalance,
- 19:17Speaker 2: like I said, is with AEI coming into existence and
- 19:21Speaker 2: really starting to take white-collar jobs and gray-collar jobs, I
- 19:24Speaker 2: think it's a counterbalance with the interest rate decrease. I
- 19:27Speaker 2: think that's how they're going to pull it off. That's
- 19:29Speaker 2: a complete theory. I have no data to support that.
- 19:35Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be interesting?
- 19:36Speaker 1: I mean, there was talk where when you're looking at
- 19:41Speaker 1: the odds, they were saying there's a 40% chance of
- 19:44Speaker 1: an interest rate increase, a 40% chance of that happening. Listen,
- 19:50Speaker 1: i would be the guy that would say don't touch
- 19:52Speaker 1: it at all if you know keep it where it
- 19:54Speaker 1: is or lower it but certainly a 40 increase would.
- 19:58Speaker 3: Be what it would i think be troubling to.
- 20:01Speaker 2: The economy yeah that would be catastrophic i i i
- 20:06Speaker 2: I would guess that that equals a minus $ 3, 000 on
- 20:10Speaker 2: the Dow Jones, maybe a minus $ 1, 500 on the NASDAQ.
- 20:14Speaker 2: I think that is devastating for the market if they
- 20:18Speaker 2: do that.
- 20:19Speaker 1: Over all these years, John Arnold's our guest, Money Talks,
- 20:22Speaker 1: News Radio 570. Over all these years, in the many,
- 20:26Speaker 1: many years that you've dealt with the stock market, what
- 20:30Speaker 1: you're seeing right now, just this volatility, and Joe uses
- 20:34Speaker 1: the word parabolic, you know, stocks are parabolic in many cases.
- 20:39Speaker 1: What is your, I mean, is, how do I phrase this?
- 20:44Speaker 1: Is it a bothersome time period? when you look at it,
- 20:49Speaker 1: how do you assess this? I mean, it's good, I
- 20:51Speaker 1: guess for the hedge fund, but it's, it's weird is
- 20:55Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say.
- 20:57Speaker 2: Well, what's weird is we're running in, we're going like,
- 21:00Speaker 2: I said this 10 years on 10 years ago on
- 21:03Speaker 2: the show, we were doing together on Monday is we're
- 21:06Speaker 2: going into the, to the, to a new paradigm of economy.
- 21:10Speaker 2: And now it's here. And that paradigm is we're shifting
- 21:13Speaker 2: from human to, to computer and robots. Right.
- 21:17Speaker 1: Now, bear with me for one minute, because I want
- 21:19Speaker 1: you to finish a thought coming up here, because we
- 21:22Speaker 1: ended a program and had some calls on it the
- 21:24Speaker 1: next day. When I believe you said, and correct me
- 21:28Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, AI... really either scares you or bothers
- 21:33Speaker 1: you or you weren't keen on it.
- 21:36Speaker 3: Do you remember ending the program with that once?
- 21:38Speaker 2: It scares the manure out of me. It scares the
- 21:40Speaker 2: manure out of me. I'll straight up tell you.
- 21:41Speaker 1: And can you elaborate? You ended a program once and
- 21:47Speaker 1: you said that. The following day I had a couple
- 21:49Speaker 1: of calls on that because... We ran out of time.
- 21:53Speaker 1: Would you be willing to talk a little bit more
- 21:55Speaker 1: about that tonight?
- 21:57Speaker 2: I would love to. I would love to.
- 21:58Speaker 3: All right.
- 21:59Speaker 1: Start, and then when we get to our headlines, well,
- 22:02Speaker 1: I tell you what, just pause, and then we'll cover
- 22:03Speaker 1: that after the headlines. All right. I want John to
- 22:07Speaker 1: address that. And folks, those of you that called me
- 22:10Speaker 1: the next day said, well, what did he mean by that? Well,
- 22:12Speaker 1: I guess you'll find out coming up. This is Money
- 22:15Speaker 1: Talks with John Arnold. We'll tell you about his hedge
- 22:17Speaker 1: fund coming up. We'll have him address AI. We'll tell
- 22:20Speaker 1: you about his hedge fund. It's what John is doing
- 22:22Speaker 1: right now. Tell you about the criteria. Tell you about
- 22:25Speaker 1: how many people can get into it. Tell you everything
- 22:27Speaker 1: about the hedge fund coming up, including how you can
- 22:29Speaker 1: be a participant in it if you meet the criteria.
- 22:31Speaker 1: That's all coming up in the second half of the
- 22:33Speaker 1: program here on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. This is Money Talks
- 22:38Speaker 1: with John Arnold. We have pause for the headlines. That's
- 22:41Speaker 1: coming up next, and then we'll come back with segment
- 22:43Speaker 1: number two. John Arnold, Money Talks. It's Thursdays at 6
- 22:46Speaker 1: here on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. On a beautiful Thursday evening,
- 22:50Speaker 1: it's 81 degrees. John answers the AI question, talks about
- 22:54Speaker 1: the hedge funds, and more coming up on Segment 2.
- 22:58Speaker 1: All right, from NewsRadio 570, WKVN, Segment 2 with John
- 23:01Speaker 1: Arnold on Money Talks Thursdays at 6. We'll get into
- 23:05Speaker 1: the hedge fund coming up in a bit. Explain what
- 23:07Speaker 1: you meant when you ended that program with that cliffhanger,
- 23:10Speaker 1: I'm going to say a couple weeks ago, what you
- 23:12Speaker 1: said negatively about AI.
- 23:16Speaker 2: Yeah, I learned from the best on the cliffhanger. Hey,
- 23:19Speaker 2: here's the thing, man. AI scare means high in 2026,
- 23:23Speaker 2: and it's fueled by layoffs. Some executive warnings, which I'm
- 23:26Speaker 2: going to talk about that. Tech adoption, which I'm going
- 23:30Speaker 2: to talk about here in a second. But you've got
- 23:33Speaker 2: a perfect storm coming here, and here's what scares me.
- 23:37Speaker 2: Let me tell you what scares me, because I lived
- 23:39Speaker 2: through this a little bit already, but everybody was wrong
- 23:43Speaker 2: on the outcome, and I think... I think it's not
- 23:47Speaker 2: the case here. I live for the dot-com bubble. I
- 23:51Speaker 2: started my investment career in 2000, right? Right before the
- 23:55Speaker 2: start of the second worst bear market ever, which is crazy.
- 23:58Speaker 2: You can talk about bad timing. But during that crisis,
- 24:03Speaker 2: I remember before the crisis, everybody's winning on these dot-com stocks.
- 24:08Speaker 2: And where I'm going with it is, like, all of
- 24:09Speaker 2: a sudden, you went from making 8% on a mutual
- 24:13Speaker 2: fund now to 5.75. You went from making a big rip,
- 24:18Speaker 2: which is a huge commission on stock, to now TD
- 24:21Speaker 2: Ameritrade and StockTrade and E-Trade and all those guys, which
- 24:24Speaker 2: got sucked up, by the way. But back then, there
- 24:26Speaker 2: was a dot-com bubble. There was a day trading slash
- 24:30Speaker 2: stock trading custodian popping up online to where now, all
- 24:33Speaker 2: of a sudden, you need a stockbroker. So our... our industry,
- 24:37Speaker 2: the investment industry, freaked out all of a sudden. What
- 24:39Speaker 2: are we going to do? You know, everybody's going to
- 24:42Speaker 2: lose their, you know, everybody's going to leave us. They
- 24:44Speaker 2: don't need us anymore, et cetera. And all the big names,
- 24:47Speaker 2: Merrill Lynch, UBS, everybody that was anybody back there and
- 24:51Speaker 2: had that scare. And guess what happened? The truth is,
- 24:55Speaker 2: nothing changed. It just actually started to create more investors
- 24:59Speaker 2: is what happened. And they figured, and then the investors
- 25:01Speaker 2: started to do it on their own. made money in
- 25:04Speaker 2: in the good markets like everybody does and completely lost
- 25:07Speaker 2: their shirt and i mean everything in two thousand one
- 25:10Speaker 2: two thousand two so all of a sudden people were
- 25:13Speaker 2: attracted back to the stock to to stockbrokers investment guys
- 25:16Speaker 2: like me there wasn't a dead end it actually helped
- 25:20Speaker 2: us and and scaled us to a different level. I
- 25:24Speaker 2: still hate it. I wish things were old, but I'm
- 25:26Speaker 2: old and cantankerous and old-fashioned. I still read the Wall
- 25:29Speaker 2: Street Journal paper version on that guy. Okay, fast forward.
- 25:33Speaker 2: This is what scares me. AI is the stop sign.
- 25:37Speaker 2: It is the end. It's genuinely, genuinely replacing us. It
- 25:43Speaker 2: is better, it functions better than any human being you
- 25:47Speaker 2: can imagine. It's like a billion times faster thinking than
- 25:51Speaker 2: a human brain. It's very cost efficient. Companies are in the...
- 25:56Speaker 2: Capitalism is defeating capitalism. We're saying bring on AI because
- 26:01Speaker 2: we're inventors. We're commerce, right? And here's the thing that's
- 26:05Speaker 2: killing us. Like I talked to you about a couple
- 26:07Speaker 2: weeks ago in the program, I went to Congress... talked
- 26:10Speaker 2: with Bill Johnson, took him out to dinner, me and
- 26:12Speaker 2: Chuck George and a bunch of people, and he said,
- 26:16Speaker 2: just because we can do it doesn't mean we should
- 26:17Speaker 2: do it. And what he meant by that is we
- 26:20Speaker 2: should probably stop this crazy technology that's going to take
- 26:23Speaker 2: over our commerce and our economy before it's too late,
- 26:27Speaker 2: because once it's too late, the cat's out of the bag.
- 26:29Speaker 2: It's over. It's over. We're going to socialism. So he
- 26:33Speaker 2: was right, but here's the problem. The big companies, the
- 26:36Speaker 2: countries that we compete with, Russia, China, India, which is
- 26:39Speaker 2: the second largest population in the world, they're on our tails.
- 26:43Speaker 2: They might even be better at AI. And if we
- 26:46Speaker 2: don't compete with them, if we don't meet their standard
- 26:50Speaker 2: of AI, we're going to be left behind, and they're
- 26:51Speaker 2: going to get us anyway. So we're kind of stuck
- 26:55Speaker 2: in this trap. And I see the only way out
- 26:57Speaker 2: of it, and Elon Musk has even talked about it,
- 27:00Speaker 2: is guaranteed income, which I'm 100% against. Because once you
- 27:04Speaker 2: get guaranteed income, you've taken entrepreneurialism and you've killed it.
- 27:08Speaker 2: You've taken artistic ability and creative ability and you've killed it.
- 27:11Speaker 2: You've halted everything that makes our nation great. You go
- 27:15Speaker 2: to New York City, like I went here with the
- 27:17Speaker 2: kids about four months ago. You see the greatness that
- 27:20Speaker 2: was built from people who came over here the right
- 27:22Speaker 2: way with a nickel and a loaf of bread and
- 27:25Speaker 2: how Jewish people went from going from horrible things that
- 27:28Speaker 2: happened to them over in Germany and coming here and
- 27:30Speaker 2: creating a great business. There's so many great things that
- 27:33Speaker 2: happened from creativity that are going to come to a
- 27:35Speaker 2: screeching halt. So what really bothers me is that companies
- 27:39Speaker 2: have announced approximately 87,000 job cuts to AI in the
- 27:49Speaker 2: first months of 2006. I want you to think about it.
- 27:51Speaker 2: 90,000 jobs in the first five months of 2006 have
- 27:57Speaker 2: been cut due to AI.
- 27:59Speaker 3: Tech alone has.
- 28:00Speaker 2: 120,000, 150,000 layoffs year to date. Just tech. Meta, Amazon, Cisco, Intuit, Block, etc.
- 28:07Speaker 2: Those guys. That's what scares me. That's the future of America.
- 28:11Speaker 2: And no one's doing a damn thing to stop it
- 28:13Speaker 2: because of greed. And that's what scares me. There is no, well,
- 28:18Speaker 2: the AI is going to fail us and then we're
- 28:20Speaker 2: going to want human beings again. No, the AI is
- 28:22Speaker 2: only going to get better. We're in the infestation of
- 28:25Speaker 2: this thing, man. Infestation. And when Elon Musk says you
- 28:28Speaker 2: better stop in his tracks or it's going to destroy us,
- 28:32Speaker 2: guess what? I'm taking Elon Musk for $ 1, 000 every single time.
- 28:36Speaker 2: Every time I'm voting on that guy. And that's what
- 28:39Speaker 2: scares me. And I hope I'm not overselling it, but
- 28:42Speaker 2: show me that I'm wrong. Seriously. I want somebody to
- 28:44Speaker 2: argue me with objective fact that I'm wrong.
- 28:47Speaker 1: Well, first of all, those numbers that you just gave,
- 28:50Speaker 1: those aren't projections. Those are numbers that have already happened,
- 28:53Speaker 1: is what you're saying, in the beginnings of 2026 here,
- 28:56Speaker 1: in the early stages of AI.
- 28:58Speaker 3: Did I get that correct?
- 28:59Speaker 5: Yep.
- 29:00Speaker 1: I mean, those numbers, I mean, I'm sitting back listening
- 29:03Speaker 1: to those numbers. They're significant.
- 29:07Speaker 3: 90,000, 120,000.
- 29:08Speaker 1: That's a lot of people that lost a lot of jobs.
- 29:11Speaker 1: And in most of those cases, I'm going to speculate
- 29:14Speaker 1: pretty decent paying jobs.
- 29:18Speaker 2: Pretty decent. What do you think Matt is paying? What
- 29:21Speaker 2: do you think Apple and Google are paying?
- 29:23Speaker 3: Okay, so decent paying– okay, good paying jobs.
- 29:27Speaker 1: And just bear with me one step further. And it's
- 29:30Speaker 1: going to be difficult for those people to be able
- 29:33Speaker 1: to rebound in something close to what they had.
- 29:37Speaker 3: Would you agree with that?
- 29:39Speaker 2: Yes.
- 29:40Speaker 3: And so then..
- 29:41Speaker 2: I'm living... Go ahead. I'm currently living... And this is... Listen,
- 29:47Speaker 2: Rich Ferenczak said something to me the other day, which
- 29:50Speaker 2: is true. Here's the answer. I didn't answer his question.
- 29:54Speaker 2: He said, John, you have this big check and create
- 29:57Speaker 2: a nice wealth for yourself. Why don't you just sit
- 29:59Speaker 2: down and enjoy your money? Why don't you just enjoy
- 30:02Speaker 2: your life? You know what the answer is? Because I
- 30:05Speaker 2: don't think that's a lot of money anymore. I don't
- 30:07Speaker 2: think my kids are going to have a job, and
- 30:09Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to have a home. I
- 30:10Speaker 2: think you're going to have 10% of this nation that...
- 30:14Speaker 2: is in the high net worth, like Europe, that owns
- 30:17Speaker 2: the voting and really controls the country, and the rest
- 30:20Speaker 2: of us are going to be on socialism. I don't
- 30:22Speaker 2: want my kids on socialism. That's why I'm trying to
- 30:25Speaker 2: go to the next level of the hedge fund. That's
- 30:27Speaker 2: why I'm still working hard. And that's the answer. I
- 30:29Speaker 2: didn't get the answer to that. What scares me is
- 30:32Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, and I'm living it. Normally, people
- 30:35Speaker 2: that got what I got a couple years ago, which
- 30:38Speaker 2: I'm very fortunate to, would just say, my God, I
- 30:40Speaker 2: hit the lottery. You know, I live happily, you know,
- 30:44Speaker 2: live it up.
- 30:45Speaker 3: Well, let's be realistic. Built through years and years and
- 30:48Speaker 3: years of hard work. Let's be realistic.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Yes. All right.
- 30:51Speaker 3: No, no, no.
- 30:52Speaker 2: I earned every dollar.
- 30:53Speaker 6: All right.
- 30:53Speaker 2: Be modest. Right. I'm just saying I don't have a
- 30:56Speaker 2: quit in me because I'm scared of AI. That's the truth.
- 30:59Speaker 2: I am scared of where we're going in this country.
- 31:01Speaker 2: That is 100% the accurate truth. I hate using that
- 31:05Speaker 2: because I hate the word scared. I hate it. All right.
- 31:07Speaker 1: But when you were talking about what troubles you about AI...
- 31:12Speaker 1: it almost sounded like it's going to suck capitalism away
- 31:16Speaker 1: to a large extent. You were talking about people would
- 31:18Speaker 1: come here and you still see it today, not just
- 31:21Speaker 1: back then. You still see it today that people who
- 31:24Speaker 1: do come here, whether legally or illegally, many of them
- 31:28Speaker 1: come here, they start a business, you know, they might
- 31:30Speaker 1: become house painters or they might open a Chinese restaurant
- 31:34Speaker 1: and they work from morning till night and they become
- 31:37Speaker 1: very successful because they have a work ethic. It's still
- 31:40Speaker 1: happening today. here in this country. And you're saying, if
- 31:44Speaker 1: I got you correctly, a lot of that will evaporate
- 31:47Speaker 1: because of AI.
- 31:50Speaker 2: Absolutely. Honestly, how many of us can... Do landscaping. How
- 31:55Speaker 2: many of us can be plumbers, electricians? Listen, I can't
- 31:57Speaker 2: even change my oil right. Right. There's guys like me
- 32:01Speaker 2: that you worry about finance and medicine. I'm your guy.
- 32:04Speaker 3: But wait a second.
- 32:05Speaker 1: It still takes people to– if you have people that
- 32:09Speaker 1: can't afford to say, I want to redo my bathroom.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Because they don't have the money, because they don't have
- 32:14Speaker 1: a job. Now that guy who thinks he's got job
- 32:17Speaker 1: security being a plumber doesn't have job security anymore. You
- 32:22Speaker 1: have said over the years, we're talking with John Arnold,
- 32:25Speaker 1: we're a consumer-driven economy.
- 32:27Speaker 3: Well, it's a circle.
- 32:28Speaker 1: If you don't have consumers that have disposable income to
- 32:31Speaker 1: hire the plumber or electrician, you make do with what you.
- 32:34Speaker 3: Have, right?
- 32:37Speaker 2: Yes, that's why China has never called our debt because
- 32:40Speaker 2: of our tax system. We have the best commerce in
- 32:42Speaker 2: the entire world. They're counting on us to buy their junk.
- 32:46Speaker 2: And guess what happens when we can't buy their junk anymore?
- 32:48Speaker 2: All hell breaks loose. So there's a deeper thinking here.
- 32:53Speaker 2: There's a bigger chess move here. And what sucks about
- 32:56Speaker 2: our society is men aren't men anymore. They've lost their fight.
- 33:00Speaker 2: Men are not.
- 33:01Speaker 3: Fighting for their families. But you can't fight technology, can you?
- 33:06Speaker 3: I mean, where do you go?
- 33:07Speaker 2: I think you can if you had enough of us.
- 33:09Speaker 1: AI is out there. I thought you gave a great analysis.
- 33:14Speaker 1: You're competing against China and any of these other countries.
- 33:17Speaker 1: What do you do to prevent what is going to
- 33:20Speaker 1: happen based on what you're saying?
- 33:22Speaker 3: How do you stop that?
- 33:24Speaker 2: I can right now tell you what I would do.
- 33:27Speaker 2: I would dedicate every ounce of our budget towards AI.
- 33:30Speaker 2: to war, and to self-defense, and to maybe higher-end technology
- 33:35Speaker 2: for computers with semiconductors and whatever, but I would not
- 33:40Speaker 2: let any further implementation of technology like that flow into
- 33:44Speaker 2: our trades. When I say trades, I mean all trades.
- 33:47Speaker 2: I mean computers, secretarial, accounting. Let me tell you something.
- 33:53Speaker 2: AI is going to put the average financial guy out
- 33:55Speaker 2: of business. It's going to put accounting out of business.
- 33:59Speaker 2: It's going to put lawyers out of business who don't
- 34:01Speaker 2: have creative specialty law. If you can go to AI
- 34:06Speaker 2: and do an estate plan for $ 300 with AI, you're
- 34:12Speaker 2: not going to pay so-and-so $ 2, 500 or $ 5, 000 unless you're
- 34:14Speaker 2: small-town America. It just doesn't work like that. That stuff
- 34:18Speaker 2: is coming to an end. We need to halt that
- 34:20Speaker 2: right now. We need to say enough is enough. But
- 34:23Speaker 2: guess what? When I'm talking about men, I'm saying men
- 34:25Speaker 2: and women, we don't have that fight. We're more worried
- 34:27Speaker 2: about the Dan Browns game and going out to BW3s
- 34:29Speaker 2: for a couple beers and joining a soccer game. None
- 34:33Speaker 2: of that's going to matter unless this comes to an end.
- 34:35Speaker 2: I'm talking real talk here.
- 34:37Speaker 3: I'm not a human good guy.
- 34:39Speaker 2: I'm not a conspiracy theorist guy.
- 34:40Speaker 3: And you're talking in a relatively short period of time, correct?
- 34:44Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. Yes.
- 34:47Speaker 3: They're saying, listen, I'm online right now.
- 34:49Speaker 2: I don't know who these people are. The surveys show
- 34:52Speaker 2: that 40% to 52% of all global U.S. workers fear
- 34:55Speaker 2: AI job loss, nearly double from 2024 in polls. So
- 35:01Speaker 2: just in two years, one and a half years, actually, 50%
- 35:04Speaker 2: of the global, not just U.S. global workers, fear AI replacement.
- 35:08Speaker 2: I want you to think about that. The BCG estimates 50%
- 35:12Speaker 2: to 55% of U.S. jobs will be augmented or reshaped
- 35:16Speaker 2: by AI in the next two to three years. That's 2028.
- 35:19Speaker 2: That's when Trump's term is up. That's how fast things
- 35:22Speaker 2: are changing.
- 35:24Speaker 3: Listen to the number that you just gave, though. That's
- 35:26Speaker 3: a huge number.
- 35:29Speaker 2: Yep. Not everybody can be a nurse. Not everybody can
- 35:32Speaker 2: mow lawns. Not everybody can fix light sockets. There's half
- 35:36Speaker 2: of us that need help. a technical job that requires
- 35:41Speaker 2: us to not have to compete the AI. I'm telling you,
- 35:43Speaker 2: my man, this is a real deal. When, when Rich said,
- 35:46Speaker 2: why are you not enjoying your money? This is why
- 35:48Speaker 2: I'm not enjoying my money. I'll work over something deeper.
- 35:51Speaker 2: I see it is on the wall. I am not
- 35:54Speaker 2: worried about the Dan Buckeyes game anymore or the Browns.
- 35:57Speaker 2: You know what I'm worried about? My kids surviving and
- 35:59Speaker 2: you are worried about not being a government puppet.
- 36:04Speaker 1: And just if it goes to direction that it's heading
- 36:08Speaker 1: right now, then you're saying to me, John Arnold here tonight,
- 36:12Speaker 1: Money Talks, you're saying if AI continues to go in
- 36:15Speaker 1: a direction it's going, significant job loss, how will these
- 36:19Speaker 1: people make a living? How will they pay their bills?
- 36:23Speaker 1: Then you start talking about people on the dole or
- 36:25Speaker 1: basic income because the jobs are evaporated.
- 36:29Speaker 2: Is that? Accurate.
- 36:31Speaker 3: It's going to be a necessity.
- 36:33Speaker 2: Right in front of your very eyes, everybody. They introduced
- 36:37Speaker 2: this damn digital coin. Do you think that was by coincidence?
- 36:41Speaker 2: If you had introduced a digital coin when computers first
- 36:43Speaker 2: came out in 1995 where they were actually relevant, people
- 36:46Speaker 2: would have laughed at you. They'd be like, yeah, yeah,
- 36:49Speaker 2: what's it worth? Nothing. It's just a scam. Now people
- 36:51Speaker 2: are like, well, maybe we'll use Bitcoin to pay our taxes.
- 36:54Speaker 2: It's insanity. But what they don't really understand is that
- 36:57Speaker 2: is a feeder system for socialism. Algorithms are a feeder
- 37:01Speaker 2: for socialism. When you displace cash for bits or whatever
- 37:08Speaker 2: they're going to give you, and they give you a
- 37:10Speaker 2: condo and public transportation, and they control your health care
- 37:15Speaker 2: and your gas like they did in Canada. Guys, pay
- 37:19Speaker 2: attention here. During COVID, when the truckers refused to bow
- 37:22Speaker 2: down for the COVID shot, they shut their gas off.
- 37:25Speaker 2: They shut their paychecks off. You don't think that this
- 37:29Speaker 2: is common with AI and socialism? And I'm not a nutcase.
- 37:33Speaker 2: I'm not a conspiracy nutcase. It's right in front of
- 37:35Speaker 2: your eyes. That's what's going on with the globalization of
- 37:38Speaker 2: our world. And no one's doing a damn thing about it.
- 37:42Speaker 2: No one.
- 37:43Speaker 3: Wow.
- 37:43Speaker 1: I mean, it's just unbelievable. It's unreal that that's where
- 37:48Speaker 1: it's heading. And when you're talking this way, for those
- 37:50Speaker 1: folks who are listening, because I got a lot of
- 37:52Speaker 1: feedback on that that one time, I just want to emphasize,
- 37:55Speaker 1: you're not talking in 10 years. You're talking next year.
- 37:59Speaker 2: I'm talking now. No, no, no. I'm talking now. Right.
- 38:03Speaker 2: I'm talking now. As we speak, it's happening.
- 38:07Speaker 3: And, you know, you're talking.
- 38:10Speaker 2: Listen to what Elon Musk is saying. Yeah.
- 38:12Speaker 1: And here's what I'm thinking. As you're talking, you know,
- 38:16Speaker 1: like take Social Security. It takes existing workers that are
- 38:19Speaker 1: paying into the system to keep it going and keep
- 38:22Speaker 1: it afloat. You follow me? I mean, you understand.
- 38:24Speaker 2: Exactly. Yes.
- 38:27Speaker 1: Now you've eliminated a lot of those workers that don't
- 38:30Speaker 1: exist that aren't paying in. How does that system stay afloat?
- 38:34Speaker 1: How does Medicare for our elderly work? stay afloat if
- 38:39Speaker 1: it's paid for by taxes of existing workers the money
- 38:43Speaker 1: i paid into social security went out to people that
- 38:45Speaker 1: were retired at that time well if there aren't people
- 38:48Speaker 1: if i don't turn around and look behind me and
- 38:50Speaker 1: there aren't enough workers there what happens the entire system.
- 38:56Speaker 2: You said it you said it that's why like I
- 38:59Speaker 2: grew up under a union, so my dad's job was
- 39:02Speaker 2: protected by UAW. The unions do some negative, yes, they do,
- 39:05Speaker 2: but their good always are bad. So why I'm telling
- 39:07Speaker 2: you this, if I was a union guy, I was
- 39:09Speaker 2: the head of the union, I would be all over this.
- 39:12Speaker 2: Who's going to employ us when the jobs are gone?
- 39:15Speaker 2: Who's going to employ us? Are there electricians? Are there plumbers? Maybe,
- 39:19Speaker 2: but there's only so many of you to go around.
- 39:21Speaker 2: The happy days are coming to an end.
- 39:24Speaker 1: If you get an abundance of people all in the
- 39:26Speaker 1: trades guess what happens to the money that they make
- 39:29Speaker 1: i mean supply and demand each other right exactly right
- 39:32Speaker 1: and if there's not enough customers to purchase those services
- 39:37Speaker 1: uh that that have decent jobs that that says everything
- 39:40Speaker 1: you need to know I mean, really, this is really eye-opening.
- 39:44Speaker 1: With all due respect, it's something I have to address
- 39:46Speaker 1: on a regular program as well.
- 39:48Speaker 3: Because, I mean, the.
- 39:49Speaker 1: Numbers that you gave just tonight, did I hear them right?
- 39:53Speaker 1: 90,000 jobs here, 120,000 in this sector. I mean, roughly
- 39:57Speaker 1: 200,000 jobs in that ballpark?
- 40:00Speaker 2: Gone? Hey, 120,000 to 150,000 year-to-date. Gone. We're only halfway
- 40:06Speaker 2: through the year. meta amazon cisco into a block that
- 40:10Speaker 2: came from liberal cnbc okay so that's not like it's
- 40:14Speaker 2: that's not like scary town us and i'm giving you
- 40:17Speaker 2: literally trading economics.com stuff.
- 40:20Speaker 1: So when he's giving you bs data so when elon
- 40:23Speaker 1: musk was early on you were right there but beside
- 40:26Speaker 1: him saying listen to him he's he's basically saying we
- 40:30Speaker 1: can't we better think this through because it can be
- 40:34Speaker 1: both a bad thing as far as government control, government surveillance.
- 40:38Speaker 3: And what are we going to do with all these people?
- 40:42Speaker 2: I'll give you one better, Ron, because I always give
- 40:44Speaker 2: you the hardcore truth, even if it makes you look foolish.
- 40:47Speaker 2: I really didn't even know about AI. I just knew, like, oh,
- 40:50Speaker 2: this is the future. This is like four years ago.
- 40:51Speaker 2: This is the future. You know, what's coming, maybe robots
- 40:56Speaker 2: will replace us, maybe when I'm dead, and hopefully my
- 40:58Speaker 2: kids will figure it out. Elon Musk came up on
- 41:02Speaker 2: an interview, and he started talking about them. And I
- 41:04Speaker 2: really started, because, again, I'm an Elon Musk guy. I
- 41:07Speaker 2: really started to pay attention to what this guy was saying.
- 41:09Speaker 2: When he's saying, I'm literally scared. He's saying physically, I'm scared.
- 41:14Speaker 2: I'm watching it come out of his mouth. We have
- 41:16Speaker 2: to stop this thing in its tracks. It's probably the
- 41:19Speaker 2: smartest human being that I've ever known of saying this.
- 41:23Speaker 2: who has nothing to gain by saying it. As a
- 41:24Speaker 2: matter of fact, he has things to lose. Half his
- 41:28Speaker 2: stuff is from AI and robotic technology. He's the guy
- 41:32Speaker 2: that shouldn't be saying that stuff. He's saying it. And
- 41:36Speaker 2: it really woke me up, and I started doing my
- 41:37Speaker 2: own research. And as I'm researching, as I'm watching it,
- 41:41Speaker 2: I'm really watching every month more and more and more.
- 41:45Speaker 2: More jobs get lost. More jobs get lost. And this
- 41:48Speaker 2: AI thing, what's happening is what really woke me up
- 41:51Speaker 2: when Grok, G-R-O-K, made a better Grok on its own
- 41:56Speaker 2: without Google telling it to do. So that's the AI
- 41:59Speaker 2: version of ChatGPT for Google. Google has its own AI
- 42:07Speaker 2: search engine, and it thinks 100 times faster than you
- 42:11Speaker 2: do as a human. So when it's self-creating a better
- 42:15Speaker 2: version of itself, what does that tell you? That is
- 42:19Speaker 2: unbelievably scary. Again, I hate using that word. And that's
- 42:22Speaker 2: the stuff that keeps me up at night. What are
- 42:24Speaker 2: we doing to stop this in its tracks? Because no
- 42:26Speaker 2: one has the balls or the brains, I think, to
- 42:29Speaker 2: do it. And it has to come from our politicians. R-I-D,
- 42:34Speaker 2: I don't care. You've got to stop this thing in
- 42:37Speaker 2: its tracks before it ruins the American economy.
- 42:39Speaker 3: Do you see any signs of that even happening?
- 42:43Speaker 2: Just the opposite. I think that people are kicking it
- 42:46Speaker 2: down the road and finding better creative ways to make
- 42:48Speaker 2: money off it right now. And create businesses off it.
- 42:52Speaker 2: There's actually a school, like literally, you can go to
- 42:54Speaker 2: a curriculum at a school and learn how to be
- 42:56Speaker 2: an AI scientist of some kind and have all seven
- 43:01Speaker 2: or eight of them work against each other to give
- 43:02Speaker 2: you the best project. But at the end of the day,
- 43:06Speaker 2: they're eventually going to be so good that they replace
- 43:08Speaker 2: the person inputting the data. And that's the scary part.
- 43:11Speaker 1: We're talking with John Arnold Money Talks. Before I run
- 43:13Speaker 1: out of time, talk about the hedge fund, please. So
- 43:17Speaker 1: people understand it who are hearing it for the first time.
- 43:19Speaker 1: John Arnold has his own hedge fund. His own hedge fund.
- 43:24Speaker 1: It can take max out at 100 participants in his
- 43:29Speaker 1: own hedge funds and pick it up from there.
- 43:34Speaker 2: Well, right now, I think I have like two or
- 43:37Speaker 2: three more subscriptions to fulfill. I can get back to
- 43:40Speaker 2: taking subscribers now. I had to slow it down. I
- 43:44Speaker 2: used to have a big staff. It's just me and
- 43:47Speaker 2: another person taking in all these applications. And so I'm
- 43:50Speaker 2: going to get back to it. So if you're interested,
- 43:53Speaker 2: if you're an accredited investor and you can afford to
- 43:57Speaker 2: put money into my hedge fund, you will be a
- 44:00Speaker 2: fool not to. It's that good. So... The accreditation is
- 44:04Speaker 2: a million dollars in assets outside your residence, or $ 200, 000
- 44:07Speaker 2: a year in income, or you and your wife jointly,
- 44:11Speaker 2: $ 300, 000 total, or the ability to put $ 200, 000 in at once.
- 44:15Speaker 2: If you have $ 200, 000, and it's money that you can risk,
- 44:19Speaker 2: and you believe in my skills, put money in my
- 44:23Speaker 2: hedge fund because the subscriptions are running out, and that's that.
- 44:27Speaker 2: We're beating the market already. I have history of beating
- 44:30Speaker 2: the market with our managers. And here's the thing. People
- 44:33Speaker 2: keep saying, well, it's a ton of risk. It's not
- 44:35Speaker 2: a ton of risk. It's risk if you don't believe
- 44:39Speaker 2: in the stock market and you don't believe in the manager.
- 44:41Speaker 2: There are hedge funds out there that do private equity.
- 44:43Speaker 2: There are funds out there that do extreme risk. I'm
- 44:46Speaker 2: just doing what I always used to do, except I'm
- 44:48Speaker 2: managing it on a daily basis. I'm using the same
- 44:50Speaker 2: exact things I used to do, except I'm managing it
- 44:53Speaker 2: throughout the day, taking the gains when I can, putting
- 44:56Speaker 2: stopovers when I need to, and just moving on. I'm
- 44:59Speaker 2: just constantly managing it and it's kicking out great returns
- 45:04Speaker 2: right now.
- 45:04Speaker 3: So that's it. All right.
- 45:06Speaker 1: Now with that in mind, of course you have assistance.
- 45:09Speaker 1: You have some help in addition to you. Just talk
- 45:12Speaker 1: briefly about the three other people that are involved. One
- 45:16Speaker 1: guy's your compliance guy. The other two guys also assist
- 45:19Speaker 1: with the selection of the investments.
- 45:23Speaker 2: Yes. Gabe is my operations guy who's on vacation this week. Um,
- 45:28Speaker 2: Edward Scrod, who's the, uh, he's a, he's a CTO,
- 45:31Speaker 2: chief technology officer. He's the guy that doing the website and, and,
- 45:35Speaker 2: you know, the technical technology operations. And there's the superstar.
- 45:39Speaker 2: He's the guy helping me manage the money, which Steve
- 45:41Speaker 2: and Steve is like, he's the kind of guy you
- 45:44Speaker 2: see on a TV show, but he's the real thing. He's, he's,
- 45:47Speaker 2: He's way smarter than me, and he's better at it
- 45:49Speaker 2: than what I do, and I'm pretty good. So it's
- 45:52Speaker 2: that team, and they're doing great for us.
- 45:53Speaker 3: And you guys work jointly on it.
- 45:56Speaker 1: And if you're interested in the hedge fund, as you said,
- 45:59Speaker 1: if you have $ 100, 000 or $ 200, 000 that you can put in,
- 46:03Speaker 1: And or you have to meet the other criteria.
- 46:07Speaker 3: There's criteria to get into the hedge fund.
- 46:10Speaker 2: It's one of.
- 46:11Speaker 3: One of three.
- 46:11Speaker 2: You don't have to know which one.
- 46:12Speaker 5: Of, yep.
- 46:13Speaker 3: All right. So one of the three.
- 46:15Speaker 1: If you're interested in exploring that more, this is John
- 46:19Speaker 1: Arnold's hedge funds that he has started. It officially started
- 46:24Speaker 1: June 1st. If you're interested in getting into it, you
- 46:28Speaker 1: have to get in during June 1st. an open period
- 46:32Speaker 1: during June for the start of you'd be in it
- 46:35Speaker 1: in July. In other words, it always starts on the
- 46:38Speaker 1: first of the month.
- 46:39Speaker 2: People are already in it. They're in it.
- 46:41Speaker 7: Right.
- 46:41Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 46:42Speaker 1: And, and when each month comes to an end, like
- 46:45Speaker 1: when we get everything at the end of June and yeah,
- 46:49Speaker 1: and the auditors go over it all, you can say,
- 46:52Speaker 1: here's what we did and here's what our returns were.
- 46:55Speaker 1: So people can hear it firsthand where you've gone with
- 46:58Speaker 1: your hedge fund managed on an open hourly and daily
- 47:02Speaker 1: basis on buying and selling, those of you that are
- 47:06Speaker 1: familiar with hedge funds, John Arnold's hedge fund. Now, how
- 47:10Speaker 1: do people, and go slow for us, get information about
- 47:14Speaker 1: this or contact you about this?
- 47:19Speaker 2: They can call us at 330-288-7709, or you can email
- 47:20Speaker 2: me at jon.com. period, Arnold at theinvestment.coach. Again, J-O-N, period,
- 47:34Speaker 2: Arnold at theinvestment.coach. Phone number 330-288-7709.
- 47:43Speaker 1: All right, so that's the website, that's the phone number
- 47:47Speaker 1: to give John a call if you would like to..
- 47:49Speaker 2: Well, that's the email, yeah.
- 47:50Speaker 3: The email, excuse me, and.
- 47:52Speaker 1: The phone number to get a hold of John to
- 47:54Speaker 1: get involved in his hedge funds. Once there's 100 people
- 47:58Speaker 1: in it, then that, it is... closed down at that point.
- 48:01Speaker 1: You cannot take any more than 100 people in the
- 48:04Speaker 1: hedge fund. John, I appreciate your time as always. First,
- 48:08Speaker 1: I appreciate your insight into what's going on economically and
- 48:11Speaker 1: what's going on in the market. These are very interesting
- 48:13Speaker 1: times as far as anyone knows. So we look forward
- 48:19Speaker 1: to talking to you again about that. I appreciate the
- 48:23Speaker 1: great insight on AI. I got to talk about that
- 48:26Speaker 1: more on my program and what you had to say there.
- 48:29Speaker 1: And of course, You know, the hedge fund speaks for itself,
- 48:32Speaker 1: and the returns will speak for themselves on what you
- 48:35Speaker 1: do there. One more time on the phone number before
- 48:36Speaker 1: I get a scoot?
- 48:38Speaker 2: Sure. 330-288-7709. No pressure. Give us a call.
- 48:43Speaker 3: Thank you, John. Appreciate it. There he is.
- 48:45Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 48:46Speaker 1: John Arnold's Money Talks, Thursdays, NewsRadio 570 WKBN. What a
- 48:51Speaker 1: great insight on AI. And I'm telling you, that hedge
- 48:56Speaker 1: fund of his is very interesting. Give him a call.
- 49:04Speaker 7: From ABC News, I'm Michelle Franzen. A potential deal to
- 49:08Speaker 7: end the war with Iran taking shape. President Trump says
- 49:11Speaker 7: there's a conceptual agreement and it could be signed as
- 49:14Speaker 7: soon as this weekend. ABC's Louis Martinez says it comes
- 49:17Speaker 7: after President Trump vowed to carry out new strikes against Iran.
- 49:20Speaker 7: targets tonight. Now called off.
- 49:22Speaker 5: When you have the president again saying that there would
- 49:25Speaker 5: be more strikes today and then he cancels them, then yes,
- 49:29Speaker 5: you have to see this as a de-escalation because this
- 49:31Speaker 5: was something.
- 49:32Speaker 3: That was in the U.S. was in control, not Iran.
- 49:35Speaker 5: Previously, the United States had been responding to Iranian attacks,
- 49:38Speaker 5: and then it went back and forth, back and forth
- 49:40Speaker 5: on the same day. But what you saw yesterday was
- 49:42Speaker 5: the United States really launching the offensive here to try
- 49:46Speaker 5: to get Iran towards a negotiating table for an agreement.
- 49:49Speaker 7: On the heels of an inflation report showing consumer prices
- 49:53Speaker 7: surged 4% last month compared to a year ago, highs
- 49:56Speaker 7: not seen in three years due to the Iran war.
- 49:59Speaker 7: The producer price index today showing it jumped 6.5% in
- 50:03Speaker 7: May from the previous year.
- 50:04Speaker 8: The number suggests that inflationary pressures faced by consumers are
- 50:08Speaker 8: beginning to percolate up through the supply chain. Analysts say that,
- 50:11Speaker 8: as with the Consumer Price Index, surging fuel and food
- 50:14Speaker 8: prices are behind the increase in the PPI.
- 50:16Speaker 7: ABC's Jim Ryan has Matt Teams at the Pentagon today,
- 50:20Speaker 7: earlier after sensors triggered an air quality incident in sections
- 50:23Speaker 7: of the high security facility. Some workers told to shelter
- 50:26Speaker 7: in place. Tests, though, showed it was a false alarm.
- 50:29Speaker 7: Mexico beat South America today in the first match of
- 50:32Speaker 7: the FIFA World Cup. Next match, Los Angeles. Tomorrow night,
- 50:35Speaker 7: ABC's Christian Cordero is there.
- 50:38Speaker 5: L.A.
- 50:38Speaker 4: 's a host city.
- 50:38Speaker 9: It's hosting tomorrow. But the crowds are out today in
- 50:42Speaker 9: large part to support Team Mexico. We know there's a
- 50:44Speaker 9: huge Mexican-American population here in L.A., But tomorrow, all eyes
- 50:48Speaker 9: will turn to the match between the U.S. and Team
- 50:51Speaker 9: Paraguay as they kick things off here in the U.S.
- 50:54Speaker 9: at what is expected to be an exciting tournament from
- 50:57Speaker 9: beginning to end.
- 50:58Speaker 7: You're listening to ABC News.
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- 52:05Speaker 7: Van Bolter, the man charged in the attacks against Democratic
- 52:08Speaker 7: lawmakers in Minnesota last June, changed his plea today to
- 52:12Speaker 7: guilty in his federal case. Bolter admitted he shot and
- 52:15Speaker 7: killed Minnesota State Representative Melissa Hortman and also attempted to
- 52:19Speaker 7: kill Senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette.
- 52:22Speaker 2: U.S.
- 52:22Speaker 7: Attorney for the District of Minnesota, Daniel Rosen, discussed their
- 52:26Speaker 7: decision on the change of plea agreement.
- 52:28Speaker 6: When you have a defendant that is prepared to plead guilty,
- 52:32Speaker 6: take consecutive life terms, plus..
- 52:34Speaker 3: To ensure that he.
- 52:35Speaker 6: Never sees freedom again in his entire life. That was
- 52:38Speaker 6: an opportunity that we just could not pass up.
- 52:42Speaker 7: Bolter still faces state charges in the killings. In Northern Ireland,
- 52:46Speaker 7: crowds of young men clashing with police in Belfast. Those
- 52:49Speaker 7: violent protests erupted in the wake of an immigrant from
- 52:52Speaker 7: Sudan charged with the brutal knife attack on a man.
- 52:56Speaker 7: ABC's James Longman has details.
- 52:58Speaker 4: Police say protesters have been trying to reach a hotel
- 53:00Speaker 4: they believe was housing immigrants, and disturbingly, earlier this week,
- 53:03Speaker 4: some went door to door in a local street looking
- 53:06Speaker 4: for foreigners and torching homes. Now, the family of the
- 53:09Speaker 4: man who lost his left eye in that attack have
- 53:11Speaker 4: appealed for calm, and they say that while they're completely devastated...
- 53:15Speaker 4: By what's happened to him, they reject violence as the response.
- 53:18Speaker 7: Last night's celebrations in New York City following the New
- 53:20Speaker 7: York Knicks' record comeback win against the San Antonio Spurs
- 53:23Speaker 7: led to police arresting more than 50 people outside Madison
- 53:27Speaker 7: Square Garden due to rowdy fans getting out of hand.
- 53:30Speaker 7: I'm Michelle Franzen, ABC News.
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