Latest / Discourses of Epictetus / 028 - XXVII In How Many Ways Appearances Exist and What Aids We Should Provide Against Them
Transcript
- 0:01Speaker 1: Section twenty seven of Discourses of Epictetis by Epictetus, translated
- 0:07Speaker 1: by George Long. This LibriVox recording is in the public domain.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Read by Christine Rucker, August twenty sixth, twenty twenty one,
- 0:17Speaker 1: Western Massachusetts, Book one, section twenty seven, in how many
- 0:23Speaker 1: ways appearances exist and what aids we should provide against them?
- 0:29Speaker 1: Appearances are to us in four ways, for either things
- 0:33Speaker 1: appear as they are, or they are not and do
- 0:36Speaker 1: not even appear to be, or they are and do
- 0:40Speaker 1: not appear to be, or they are not and yet
- 0:43Speaker 1: appear to be. Further, in all these cases to form
- 0:47Speaker 1: a right judgment, to hit the mark is the office
- 0:50Speaker 1: of an educated man. But whatever it is that a
- 0:54Speaker 1: noise troubles us, to that we ought to apply a remedy.
- 0:59Speaker 1: If the sophism of Pyerro and the academics are what
- 1:03Speaker 1: annoys troubles, we must apply the remedy to them. If
- 1:07Speaker 1: it is the persuasion of appearances by which some things
- 1:11Speaker 1: appear to be good when they are not good, let
- 1:14Speaker 1: us seek a remedy for this. If it is habit
- 1:18Speaker 1: which annoys us, we must try to seek aid against habit.
- 1:23Speaker 1: What aid, then, can we find against habit a contrary habit.
- 1:29Speaker 1: You hear the ignorant say that unfortunate person is dead,
- 1:33Speaker 1: his father and mother are overpowered with sorrow, he was
- 1:37Speaker 1: cut off by an untimely death. And in a foreign
- 1:40Speaker 1: land hear the contrary way of speaking. Tear yourself from
- 1:45Speaker 1: these expressions. Oppose to one habit, the contrary habit to sophistry.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Oppose reason and the exercise and discipline of reason against persuasive,
- 1:58Speaker 1: deceitful appearance. We ought to have manifest precognitions, prolepses, cleared
- 2:05Speaker 1: of all impurities, and ready to hand when death appears
- 2:09Speaker 1: an evil. We ought to have this rule and readiness,
- 2:13Speaker 1: that it is fit to avoid evil things, and that
- 2:16Speaker 1: death is a necessary thing. For What shall I do
- 2:20Speaker 1: and where shall I escape? It Suppose that I am
- 2:23Speaker 1: not sarpedon the son of Zeus, nor able to speak
- 2:27Speaker 1: in this noble way. I will go, And I am
- 2:30Speaker 1: resolved either to behave bravely myself, or to give another
- 2:33Speaker 1: the opportunity of doing so. If I cannot succeed in
- 2:37Speaker 1: doing anything myself, I will not grudge another the doing
- 2:41Speaker 1: of something noble. Suppose that it is above our power
- 2:45Speaker 1: to act Thus, is it not in our power to
- 2:48Speaker 1: reason us? Tell me where I can escape death. Discover
- 2:53Speaker 1: for me the country, show me the men to whom
- 2:56Speaker 1: I must go, whom death does not visit. Discover to
- 3:01Speaker 1: me a charm against death. If I have not one,
- 3:05Speaker 1: what do you wish me to do? I cannot escape
- 3:08Speaker 1: from death. Shall I not escape from the fear of death?
- 3:12Speaker 1: But shall I die lamenting and trembling? For the origin
- 3:17Speaker 1: of perturbation is this to wish for something, and that
- 3:20Speaker 1: this should not happen. Therefore, if I am able to
- 3:24Speaker 1: change externals according to my wish, I change them. But
- 3:28Speaker 1: if I cannot, I am ready to tear out the
- 3:31Speaker 1: eyes of him who hinders me. For the nature of
- 3:35Speaker 1: man is not to endure to be deprived of the good,
- 3:38Speaker 1: and not to endure the falling into the evil. Then,
- 3:42Speaker 1: at last, when I am neither able to change circumstances
- 3:45Speaker 1: nor to tear out the eyes of him who hinders me,
- 3:48Speaker 1: I sit down and grown and abuse whom I can,
- 3:53Speaker 1: Zeus and the rest of the gods. For if they
- 3:56Speaker 1: do not care for me, what are they to me? Yes,
- 4:00Speaker 1: but you will be an impious man in what respect?
- 4:03Speaker 1: Then will it be worse for me than it is
- 4:05Speaker 1: now to sum up. Remember this that unless piety and
- 4:10Speaker 1: your interests be in the same thing, piety cannot be
- 4:14Speaker 1: maintained in any man. Do not these things seem necessary? True?
- 4:20Speaker 1: Let the followers of Peyero and academics come and make
- 4:23Speaker 1: their objections. For I, as to my part, have no
- 4:28Speaker 1: leisure for these disputes, Nor am I able to undertake
- 4:31Speaker 1: the defense of common consent opinion. If I had a suit,
- 4:37Speaker 1: even about a bit of land, I would call in
- 4:40Speaker 1: another to defend my interests with what evidence, then? Am
- 4:44Speaker 1: I satisfied with that which belongs to the matter in hand?
- 4:50Speaker 1: How indeed, perception is affected, whether through the whole body
- 4:54Speaker 1: or any part. Perhaps I cannot explain for both opinions
- 4:59Speaker 1: perflex me, but that you and I are not the same.
- 5:03Speaker 1: I know with perfect certainty. How do you know it?
- 5:07Speaker 1: When I intend to swallow anything, I never carry it
- 5:10Speaker 1: to your mouth, but to my own. When I intend
- 5:14Speaker 1: to take bread, I never lay hold of a broom,
- 5:16Speaker 1: but I always go to the bread as to a mark.
- 5:20Speaker 1: And you yourself, the pynus, who take away the evidence
- 5:24Speaker 1: of the senses? Do you act otherwise? Who among you
- 5:29Speaker 1: when he intended to enter a bath, ever went into
- 5:32Speaker 1: a mill, What then, ought we not with all our
- 5:36Speaker 1: power to hold to this, also the maintaining of general opinion,
- 5:40Speaker 1: and fortifying ourselves against the arguments which are directed against it.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Who denies that we ought to do this, well, he
- 5:49Speaker 1: should do it, who is able, who has leisure for it.
- 5:53Speaker 1: But as to him who trembles and is perturbed, and
- 5:57Speaker 1: is inwardly broken in heart spirit, he must employ his
- 6:01Speaker 1: time better on something else. End of Book one, section
- 6:07Speaker 1: twenty seven.