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PARENTAL CONTROL: You're the Bears' Problem Now! (w/ Mickey Schneider) · Breaking Mayberry

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  Hello, and welcome to another episode of Breaking Mayberry, the only podcast that
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  shows that science and faith can work together in harmony if you believe and also
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  don't care about science at all whatsoever. I'm one of your hosts. I'm
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  Marty Schneider. The other host Dan Ludwig, and we're doing another episode of
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  Parental Control, the miniseries where we talk about we bring on guests to talk
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  about shows that we associate with our parents, either a show that was your
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  parents' favorite when they were a child, your parents favorite when you were growing
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  up, or your parents favorite show. Now, no one's taken us up
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  onto parent's favorite show now. Anyway, we have a very special guest.
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  I'm very excited for this one. We started this mini series with Dan's sister.
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  We're closing it with my sister. Mickey Schneider is with us for the
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  second time on this show. Mickey, Hello, thank you with welcome for
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  being on the show. Hi, little sister, Hello, what's going on?
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  Hello, big brother. I'm one. I'm on holiday break from being
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  a teacher, so I am very relaxed and calm. It's great. This
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  is fun, this is going to be great. It's a it's a zoom
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  caller. It's a call between Mickey and I where we're not just gonna shit
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  talk our parents. I think we might a little premises parents. If you
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  don't do that, there is no show, I mean a show that we're
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  going to talk about is shit talking our parents enough. The fact that she
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  even watched this show named after it. Oh you okay, yeah you got
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  you got to the punchline. I want to say your name eight McKayla.
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  So, like I spent like a full day coming up with like shows about
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  dad, right. I came up with tons of dad shows and dad movies,
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  mostly the A Team. I really just wanted to talk about the A
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  Team, but Dan, you and I can talk about the A Team at
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  any time. And then all of a sudden, like Mickey, my sister
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  Michaela just reminded me, sent me a text and said, remind me.
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  You know I'm named after doctor Quinn. Right, Oh, so you're doing
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  some angry texts after watching this show. Yeah, how fucking dare you?
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  I had like two thoughts, Like at one point I was like, yeah,
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  mom, Mom was like she wants her to be a badass independent woman,
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  like go girl. And then I was like what the fuck mom?
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  Like in one episode, they just said her name like almost in every sentence.
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  It was like Michaela, Michaela. And I was like, did that
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  word just get stuck in her head at some point? I'm glad. I'm
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  glad that you asked that question, Michaela. First off, I do want
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  to say, you are so lucky that it was like illegal in the nineties
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  for characters to be different at the end of a show than they were at
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  the beginning of the show, right, because now we have like the Calisi
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  rule. Dude, I name your child after a TV character while that TV
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  show is still on the air, because it can go back, it can
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  backfire on you real hard. Right, You're so lucky that that shit didn't
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  happen. Like what if in like season six, doctor Quinn should have like
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  just turned to the camera and said, oh, by the way, I
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  don't think Jews should be able to own property, and you're four years old
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  at that point, Like how fuck would you have been? Okay, it's
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  a good thing. I don't go by mkay life, but okay, okay,
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  So I'm glad you brought that up. So most of the time we
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  have the guests choose the episode. This time, I chose the episodes we
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  were doing for us, and I chose the episodes that we did for two
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  reasons. So we're doing season two episode five, Saving Souls, and we're
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  doing season six, episode eighteen Birdman. The Birdman episode I chose because I
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  literally typed in, looked in to google list of worst Doctor Quinn episodes.
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  That standard move is whenever we have to watch a show we don't know,
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  we just go lea, we just google that. I'm not being fair to
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  this show. I'm not giving it a fair shot. Mchayley. You've given
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  it, Mickey again, way more of a fair shot than I have,
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  because you went above and beyond what was asked. Anyway. So I looked
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  through a list of the worst episodes and Birdman was on several of those lists,
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  And of the ones on that list, it seemed like it would be
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  the funniest one to do. It was that or the one where everybody in
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  town gets involved in a circus, like has to learn circus performing. So
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  I think I may have pit made the wrong choice. And the reason why
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  I chose season two episode six, Saving Souls, I'm sorry. Season two
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  episode five is because That episode originally airs November thirteenth, nineteen ninety three,
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  a weekend, a month and a week before you are born, before you're
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  born, And so I'm doing the math here basically, and I was trying
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  to figure out, Okay, so you're born in December, that means nine
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  months before that is March. That's the end, and so give it a
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  month probably before Mom finds out she's pregnant, so it's probably April April.
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  Maybe by the time she's like getting ready, that is when season one of
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  Doctor Quinn ends. So by the time all pregnancy is confirmed and everything and
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  getting ready for a baby, season one of Doctor Quinn is over. And
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  I started trying to figure out what episode was it. What was Mom watching
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  when she decided this is it? This is what I'm going to name my
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  daughter, And there's an without asking Mom, there's a non zero chance it
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  was this one. I know that a month is like along to a month
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  out is a long time, you know, but to wait before settling on
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  a name, I'm sorry I did not remember this. I was five.
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  I had my own shit going on, just our kindergarten, so that was
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  a big thing. So I don't know It's also possible. You know,
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  there are summer reruns, and I'm kind of ignoring that for the sake of
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  the bit, but I like, one in eight chance it was this episode.
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  I feel like you're passing on curse knowledge of what TV show your parents
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  were watching when she was conceived, Like this is this is something we should
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  not know about ourselves. I mean, Mom's whole story, though, was
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  that she was watching because I'm born, you know, Intober, two weeks
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  before Christmas and all of the season stuff comes out, and she said she
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  was watching the Doctor Quinn like Christmas episode, and then was like, I'm
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  gonna name her MICHAELA. You probably could have just asked and watched the Christmas
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  episode, but let's edit that would have been seasonally powerful. Hang on,
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  hang on a second. I'm not I'm not saying Mom is lying. I
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  don't remember the timing that you were born, because but that said, it
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  could be true because uh, Mike's dream a Christmas Tale. The Christmas episode,
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  season two, episode eleven airs on your birthday, on the day you
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  were born, so it sort of depends. I think she would have been
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  in the hospital giving birth to you, you know, probably not watching CBS
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  at the time, but she said she watched it at the hospital. Okay,
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  background on this the fucking story, because he get out of his ass
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  here. It was Barty's actual It was his Christmas performance or holiday performance at
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  the school. You know. It was at the school, elementary school.
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  And Mom went into labor with me at the elementary program, and then they
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  went to the hospital and Mom watched Doctor Quinn and her like during the labor
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  before I was ready. And then while she was watching it, she just
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  decided to name me Michaela and then gave birth to me. So I destroyed
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  your your thing and then with named Michaela. I mean, maybe that's the
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  story I was told. Okay, okay, that's possible. It's possible.
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  You might she might have been in labor for a long time. We should
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  we should, like, Mom should have some say in this, but call
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  her somebody tis her right now? Because and the reason I say this is
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  because Doctor Quinn Medicine Woman aired like Saturdays at eight, That's true, So
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  it aired on a Saturday, so she maybe she went It's possible that we
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  had the the school play on a Friday. She goes into labor on a
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  Friday, she's still give I'm just saying, there's what we need to do
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  is look at a calendar from nineteen ninety three, and only there was some
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  way we could do this anyway. Anyway, I'm gonna say she was thinking
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  about it. I'm you know, I'm not not not to take the mystique
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  out of it. It's a sweet story. I like the story, but
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  I'm gonna say mom was thinking about it probably around this time. I think
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  it's a all right, so saving souls am I also could have just made
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  that story up. No, I've I've also heard that story. I have
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  also heard that story. Oh Jesus, so this is good. This is
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  fun. We're doing some good shit. Before what you got Dan? Before
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  a specific episode, how do everybody feel about this television program that we all
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  watched? Best SZI acting I've ever seen just everyone size a lot, just
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  so much size I act everywhere. A lot of a lot of signing,
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  a lot of wistful looks off into the distance, a lot a lot of
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  shrugs too, a lot of like looking at each other across the room and
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  being like, I don't know what's going on? Do you know what's going
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  on? Oh? And then shrugging at each other, loved to be deep
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  in thought. My other question is if she's the only doctor in that area,
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  Like, how long does she spend on a case, because geez luis,
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  I'm sure someone has consumption at this point, and she's over here,
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  like spending four days on this person. Johnny Cash does. Johnny Cash has
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  consumption? He does. I looked this up. That that that's the other
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  reason I chose this episode because Johnny Cash Cash the second time that we've covered
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  a Johnny Cash performance on this show. I might hate Johnny Cash as an
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  actor. I might, Oh, he's crap. He's so bad because he
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  just sings all of his lines like a dipshit. Hello, I'm the local
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  gunslinger like he's doing like he's pretending to be a ghost. I normally I
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  do a one sent in summary from Wikipedia. There is no one sent in
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  summary. Every single uh like description on Wikipedia here is a fucking paragraph long.
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  So I'm gonna do the show. Yeah, I'm way too long.
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  I'm gonna do the first sentence of this Saving Souls airs November thirteen, nineteen
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  ninety three, written by directed by James Keach, who is only like notable
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  for being Stacy Keach's younger brother. When when sister Ruth Mackenzie, a traveling
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  faith healer, comes to town, Horace's gout is healed, but doctor Mike
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  is not impressed. Johnny Cash returns to reprise his role as kid Cole.
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  So this is the like apparently not the first time. It's actually the second
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  time of four that Johnny Cash has shown up as a bounty hunter. Yeah,
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  so I will say I was so on board with this show for thirty
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  of its forty minutes. I was deeply on board. I was like super
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  interested in this. I understood, like it's boring, it's not a very
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  interesting show, but I got the appeal. There was a thing in the
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  nineties about like having Westerns but like with a none of the violence or subversion
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  of Westerns, just kind of home. I understood it. I was a
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  little interest in the story, and I was interested in in the stance that
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  it was taking. And then the last like ten to fifteen minutes of this
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  show takes a hard left into Assholeville and does one of the like shittiest,
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  like most cowardly things I've ever seen a television show do, and basically calls
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  into like question the entire existence of its main character. So can I just
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  want to briefly describe the arc of this, which is they have they have
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  a priest in a church and it's like fairly low key, and then a
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  new preacher comes into town and is like, everybody needs to be way more
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  religious. And then normally, in a normal show, they would there would
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  be a thing where either she would be revealed to be like a con woman,
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  or it would be like, no, we don't need to be more
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  religious, we all just need to calm down. And instead they're like,
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  thank you lady for teaching as Ale to be way more religious. You were
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  totally right. Yeah. It wasn't even just be way more religious. It
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  was it was like if you don't believe hard enough, you know, then
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  you're gonna stay sick. And doctor Quinn's like science, and then at the
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  end she was like science kind of. It's so bizarre because this show,
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  for the first half is very clearly setting up Sister Ruth as being a con
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  man. It is shot and written the exact ways that a con man would.
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  When it doesn't work, she makes up an excuse and blames the fuck
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  it we're doing. We're going beat by beat here opens up, opens up
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  in the church, and everybody's really bored. Actually hang out a second.
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  Let me go ahead and for people who do not know what this show is,
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  let's go ahead and describe Doctor Quinn Medicine Woman. Doctor Quinn Medicine Woman
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  is a was a drama that aired on CBS for six seasons and two movies.
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  Yeah, two movies, two movies, two like made for TV movies
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  wow. And it is a western about a woman named doctor MICHAELA. Quinn
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  from Boston, Massachusetts, who is a doctor. Uh. And she goes
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  to Colorado Springs hoping to you know, open up a practice there. I
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  guess in the first episode she's working for her father's medical practice and her father
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  dies and that's why she goes out to Colorado. Uh. And so she
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  rives in Colorado Springs in eighteen sixty seven. She's the only doctor in town.
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  And I guess the entire show is based around a lady doctor round a
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  room from and and so and so it's it's a doctor show. We've talked
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  on this show why doctor shows work. Doctor shows work really well because you
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  can bring in guest stars and have them show up, mix shit up,
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  and then leave immediately, either by dying or getting well and going away.
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  Uh. And that's basically the concept, but it also kicked off a whole
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  slew of Christian but not Christian TV shows, like shows that aired on like
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  CBS and we're branded like family stuff and just kind of flew under the like
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  chicken soup for the soul radar of Christianity, you know, stuff that's like,
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  no, it's just family themed. Touched by an Angel energy it inspired
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  Touched by an Angel. And in fact, if I remember, if I
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  remember right, she had taste, which I mean a specific taste. Yeah,
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  And if I remember right, actually there was a period of time when
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  they aired back to back. I think Doctor Quinn was the leading show to
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  Touch by an Angel. I also think Jane Seymour, who is Doctor Quinn,
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  was also in an episode of Touch. I feel like, almost certain
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  almost certainly, what is that show about? Is it just like people are
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  like, I have problems and then an angel shows up and is like magic.
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  Yeah, it's the idea, I think too. For both of these
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  shows, it's like we're progressive Christian, we believe in all these things,
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  but also like and you can see that in the episode. It's kind of
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  the like, we don't care about your lifestyle, but we're gonna be nice
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  to you, even though we still think you're going to hell. Yeah,
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  it's like under the guides of like kindness, but also you're not you're not
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  a good Christian. Doesn't matter that you're a huge piece of shit. We're
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  here for you regardless, are you. Yep. Long time listeners of the
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  show might be a little bit confused hearing me say this. So, Mickey
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  and I are Jews. We were not raised Jewish, though we were not
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  raised in the temple, and our mother had let's say, a wide variety
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  of religious experiences and beliefs while we were growing up. So yeah, we'd
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  watch Charmed and then this, Yeah, or like Buffy and then this.
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  I think I think mom mom did get into like Wickan and paganism, just
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  briefly, like the most the most like like bare bones ideas of it.
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  So it was all over the place in our household. So yeah, this
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  was this was how that transition happened, where she was like, well,
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  doctor Quinn's kind of winding down. In terms of plot interest, Charmed is
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  picking up. Let's go for some wicked shit I'm really thinking about this Wyatt
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  character. Let's go on paganism time line wise that does that does track?
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  Yeah anyway, So so it starts off this episode, everybody's in church and
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  they're bored to tears thanks to this like handsome wet rag that is the reference.
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  He looks like if you shoved him slightly, he would fucking die.
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  And he basically does roll over like a bitch for this one. Like he
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  walks in a woman, he's wrapping it up. He's like, okay,
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  I have a good Sunday everyone, and then a woman comes in, a
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  mysterious woman comes in and says, hey, everybody, we need to sing
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  at him right now. And he's like, oh okay, and then everybody
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  sings that old time religion. We're all having a good time and great good
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  times, great oldies. And then she everyone goes, oh, yeah,
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  that's that lady who's like running the cart that does the street revival outside of
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  town. And she does the speaking in tone, she does the she didn't
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  literally speaking tongues, but she puts on the whole carnival barker stick. She
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  brings up Horace, who I guess is the town's local idiot, like both
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  of these episodes revolve around Horace fucking stuff up for everybody who has gout and
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  claims to like heal his gout with the the teachings of the Lord Very was
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  it Jerry Fallwell stuff that, like Televangelist did really heavily in the eighties and
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  nineties. She practically does a soft shoe routine up there. Yeah, and
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  that's that's the main plot. There are there are three different plots to this
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  episode. Yeah, it's too long. That's it could have been ended in
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  a twenty minute snippet. That is plot A. Okay, that is plot
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  A, which is that Okay, there's a faith healer in town and doctor
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  Mike is getting pissed off, Like there's a good little showdown between the two
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  of them. Where do you slightly love that they call her doctor Mike.
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  Yeah, I was like, get it, doctor Mike, and that towards
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  the end they're like, and I know we're going to the next episode,
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  and then they call her michaela And I'm like, nah, go back to
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  doctor Mike. That's that shit, that's that's the best. Doctor Mike sounds
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  like a mildly sketchy YouTuber where he's like, doctor Mike, I'm gonna give
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  you some tips on how to stay healthy, also by my vitamin supplements.
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  We've had a fake YouTube doctor on the show before. Doctor Doctor Nerd Love
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  is not actually a doctor. He no, I made that mistake of asking
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  if he was a doctor, and he was very firm on doctor Nerd Love
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  is not a doctor. I think doctor Quinn has the PhD. In serving
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  sas in this episode is all I'm gonna say. She's fucking bad, Like
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  she's great this this little stand down. They first meet and doctor Mike says,
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  you know, I'm the town's local doctor, and Sister Ruth McKenzie goes,
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  oh, it's always nice to meet another healer, and doctor Mike gives
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  her this bitch look. Well, okay, I'm gonna push back on that
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  all because doctor doctor Quinn does do some exceptional side dyeing at this lady.
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  But then also the lady does whatever the fuck she wants where it threw out.
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  She's like, I'm gonna completely fuck up everything in Doctor Quinn is like,
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  m you're a real like just be like, oh, yeah, that's
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  that's so great of you, thank you so much for helping out. But
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  then like doesn't do anything as this lady just runs rough shot all over her.
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  She does have the great line though, of the like I'm not your
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  sister, like she gets like doctor Quinn is serving that she gets there eventually.
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  But what has to happen for that for her to get there is that
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  sister Ruth has to almost kill a child. Oh yeah, yeah, but
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  before then, doctor Mike is just kind of like crossing her arms and doing
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  the like Marge Simpson, ah noise, just kind of like getting irritated.
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  And then a couple of scenes later, a child is like having an asthma
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  attack. Child is exphyxiating on the table and doctor Quinn is helping her and
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  says, wait a minute, what is going on? We were keeping her
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  her asthma under control. And somebody tells doctor Quinn that doctor Ruth, Sister
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  Ruth took a hat to like the immigrant caravan outside of town where all these
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  Swedes who barely speak English are and passed around a hat and told them they
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  don't need their medicine anymore and stole everyone's medicine from the immigrant camp, not
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  just this little girl. But yeah, so there's a fourteen year old girl
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  who is dying of asthma, a very treatable illness, and so so that
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  and that is what is required for doctor Mike to get to a level of
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  SaaS where she's like visibly angry. That's plot A. Yeah. Plot B
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  is that Johnny Cash is in town. He's the bounty hunter kid Cole and
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  she and he rustled up some horse thieves and he shot one of them.
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  And so doctor Mike has to check out the guy that he's shot so that
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  he can live, so he can collect the bounty. But his brothers are
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  coming into town to get him back. This sounds interesting, it's not.
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  It's it's not interesting at all. And then plot number three. Plot number
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  three is that we get a very I like this scene. Early on,
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  there's a sweet scene of a man named named Robert E. And I do
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  want to just pause here. I want to make it clear. Roberty is
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  a black man. His character is that he's a former slave. I'm sure
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  they explained this before. Why the fuck is he named robert E? And
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  everyone refers to him? Last week we talked about a car named the General
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  Lee. This is a man who is a former slave. I'm sure they
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  explain it in the episode. But I just gotta say and and nobody calls
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  him Bob, nobody calls him Robert just they always say Robert E all the
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  time. It's really weird. I it took me a set when I was
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  reading the Wikipedia summaries. I literally at one point I was like, apparently
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  Robert E. Lee was a character on this show for a couple of seasons.
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  It took me a sect to even registered it is the possible name of
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  a black man. Is his name actually Robert E. Lee? Is that
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  his last name? I just kept seeing Roberty and it was like, Roberty
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  enters a boxing match, robert E has this interpersonal drama with somebody, and
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  I was like, apparently he was running around causing a bunch of shit and
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  Dacota this time. So yeah. So robert E, who is a former
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  slave, now lives in Colorado. He proposes to his girlfriend, Grace,
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  who runs the local cafe. So and it's a sweet moment, like he
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  puts the ring in the water. I liked this scene. I was on
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  board for Roberty. So robert E and Grace are getting married, and they
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  want to get married in the town church, which causes a problem because because
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  they're black. Yeah, And there's a moment where the reverend cup. They
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  invite the reverend into their restaurant, and the reverend goes, hey, great,
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  I can't. I'm happy you're getting married. Where do you want to
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  get married outside in the rain? How about how about over in like the
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  town shack? How about over there? What if you get married in the
• 25:32
  woods. It would be pretty cool if we did it very far away from
• 25:34
  any human eyes. I would love to marry you, guys and so and
• 25:41
  that is plot three plot see you going on, Mickey. The doctor Mike
• 25:47
  is running around and she is like, not only do I have to convince
• 25:51
  this pastor to let my friends get married in a church, but also now
• 25:55
  I have to go, like deal with this sister lady who's now telling people
• 25:59
  they don't need their medicine. It's the whole plot of this thing. It's
• 26:02
  doctor Mike is the only one who's like, the fuck is happening in this
• 26:06
  town? And I've got and I've got this asshole, this bounty hunter asshole
• 26:10
  who is yet who is clearly dying. He's clearly dying of consumption and he
• 26:15
  wants to die, and he's coughing up blood all the time. But she
• 26:18
  but he won't, like he won't like let her treat him, not because
• 26:22
  of sexism, but because he's just an asshole. No, because he's like,
• 26:26
  I want to die. I'm this is a weird form of suicide.
• 26:30
  Like he's like, I don't. Yeah, yeah, this episode is very
• 26:34
  weird. It's like super like each one of these plots should have just bend
• 26:37
  their own episode, and it's like they just crammed them all together and made
• 26:42
  it like the most frantic yet slow episode I've ever seen. Yeah, and
• 26:48
  doctor Mike running around helping all these people is also kind of mixed in with
• 26:53
  doctor Mike fucking hates all of these people's guts. She is so absolutely from
• 26:59
  like Sean one. She is sick of all of these people's bullshit. She
• 27:03
  doesn't come in and be like, hey, what's going on? Oh I
• 27:06
  can't wait to be like I'm happy, but later I'm going to be disappointed
• 27:10
  with your actions. She walks into like the first scene like what did you
• 27:14
  fucking do? Now, you fucking idiot. It reminds me of the latter
• 27:18
  seasons of Parks and rec The later season of Parks and Reck when just like
• 27:22
  Leslie's just so mad at this town of Pawnee. If she still keeps trying
• 27:26
  to help everyone in Bonnie, she's Leslie and nopen this shit up half the
• 27:30
  time. That is that very good? He's like, what the fuck?
• 27:34
  Anyway, I have to go over here now anyway, I haven't written here
• 27:38
  in my notes. Uh. Doctor Quinn is having a very frustrating day to
• 27:45
  dial in on one specific plot when when Roberty and his girlfriend asked to be
• 27:49
  married in the church, the reverend's answer why he can't do it. He's
• 27:53
  like, listen, I would love to marry you in the church. I
• 27:56
  think it's great. All the principal cast thinks you're great. One problem,
• 28:00
  everybody hears racist as shit, So we can't do that. And like they
• 28:06
  get into a whole argument of like, well, you have a moral obligation
• 28:08
  to do it. It's the right thing you need to do, and he's
• 28:11
  like, agreed, but racist everybody here is so like basically dialing and very
• 28:18
  clearly like just to be clear, this place fucking sucks. Yeah, I
• 28:21
  mean the whole show is like everyone fucking sucks in this town. Like that's
• 28:25
  the whole show. Yeah, it's in every episode. So this town sucks.
• 28:29
  Yeah, I think I think now as a good as good a time
• 28:32
  as any to talk about Sully. Can we talk about my God? Everything
• 28:37
  about this character is so ridiculous. Mom was obsessed with Sully. Can I
• 28:45
  Can I read you guys? Something I found about Sully. I was on
• 28:49
  the Wikipedia page for the first episode, and the Wikipedia not the fandom dot
• 28:55
  net page for the first episode. Um, Sully is a crucive Yeah,
• 29:00
  let me do it again. Sully is a reclusive loaner who befriended the neighboring
• 29:04
  Cheyenne and adopted their ways following the death of his wife and daughter during childbirth
• 29:10
  in eighteen sixty five parentheses. He is also a sensitive hunk who throws a
• 29:15
  mean tomahawk. So somebody's mom wilded on Wikipedia and stuck it through. So
• 29:26
  many moms were horny for the character of Sully. So Sully is. He's
• 29:33
  played by an actor named Joe Lando, and Joe Lando clearly thought he was
• 29:37
  going to have a bigger career than he had. And everything about this character
• 29:44
  is so ridiculous. He's a mountain man. He's basically like Dances with Wolves
• 29:48
  was really popular when this show started and last of the Mohicans. So he's
• 29:52
  a white man who's spent enough time among the natives that he has adopted their
• 29:59
  ways. Yeah. Yeah, And so he's always wearing loin cloths and leathers
• 30:03
  and spray tanning. He's got long, wavy, fabio hair, and so
• 30:07
  it's it's sort of that like he does. He basically plays the role that
• 30:14
  any native character would play if you had a Native character, but he's white,
• 30:18
  so it's non threatening. Hold on, we this is a jump skip.
• 30:22
  My friend and I were like just really upset about the solely characters.
• 30:26
  We watched another episode to see if we could find any other like accurate representation,
• 30:30
  and we found an episode and the person who is indigenous or is supposed
• 30:36
  to represent um the tribe, they have no lines. They just sit and
• 30:41
  stare in this episode. Lines I somebody kept popping up on the Wikipedia.
• 30:48
  Cloud Dancer is there's a guy named cloud Dancer that comes up a lot Perhatuh.
• 30:59
  He from what I can tell, he's like evil Sully, which isn't
• 31:03
  great. Okay, then maybe not this person. I don't know, but
• 31:07
  all they did was we were just like, really, okay, great,
• 31:11
  So Sully and so many moms, ours included, lost their shit for Sully.
• 31:19
  I did some background research, and Sully's not in season six a little
• 31:23
  bit that he was. He was on some con the actor was in some
• 31:27
  contract negotiations, so they had Sully off the screen going on like a secret
• 31:33
  mission for the government or something, and replaced him with a town sheriff who
• 31:38
  is notwere near as interesting or handsome as Sully. But at this time,
• 31:45
  like when when rumors of the show being canceled, the fan groups called themselves
• 31:49
  save our Sully, not save our show. Given up on the show.
• 31:53
  At this point, they just wanted more Sully and to be To be honest,
• 31:57
  I think I get it, because you know, cultural appropriation aside.
• 32:02
  You put that aside. As far as I can tell, Sully's only role
• 32:07
  on this show is to be a stupid hunk of beefcake who says yeah after
• 32:14
  everything that doctor Mike says. That's that's kind of as role. And I
• 32:19
  get it, all right, Women of the nineties, I understand why this
• 32:21
  is what you wanted. I ask for more, ask for more, Women
• 32:25
  of the nineties. An alternate theory for Mickey's naming is maybe your mom was
• 32:30
  like listen, it's too late for me to end up with a hunky white
• 32:34
  guy who caused plays his Native Americans. But you, my daughter, you
• 32:37
  can do it. There's still time. And then she has a lesbian for
• 32:40
  a daughter, so didn't pan out. No, she did not read the
• 32:51
  room effectively, more like she didn't read the womb effectively. Hey, uh
• 33:01
  well we're punning hard tonight. Uh all right, I'm gonna skip around through
• 33:08
  this ship. But what I want to get at here is all these all
• 33:10
  these things are coming to a head. Kid. Cole is flirting with sister
• 33:15
  Ruth in a very weird way, like sister Ruth is coming on to him
• 33:21
  heavily, and it is gross. Yeah, making explain that face you're making
• 33:27
  the fact that I guess I didn't catch that. And then when you were
• 33:30
  like, oh they were flirting, did you? I was like, oh
• 33:35
  yeah, what I mean? Like she she She culminates the episode by being
• 33:38
  like, don't fight these men. I love you, you old goat.
• 33:43
  And God, what wouldn't it been great if he had fucking died just then?
• 33:46
  It would have been great if like after after he finally is like,
• 33:51
  yes, please treat me. I want to live I've forgiven myself for my
• 33:54
  sins and that's that's part of their whole thing is like, uh, they
• 33:59
  clearly like each other. Sister Ruth keeps saying, you can please, we
• 34:04
  can get That's fine, Yes, that's on. I've watched this episode like
• 34:08
  two or three times now. Uh. We were supposed to do this episode
• 34:13
  months ago and then Mickey got got sick and so we had to delay it.
• 34:16
  So I've watched this episode like two or three times now. And it
• 34:19
  took three times to catch a lot of this because it's so fucking benign and
• 34:23
  like boring and beige. It's just the color beige for forty five minutes.
• 34:29
  But anyway, never Johnny Cash did a monologue about how he is a how
• 34:34
  he is a huge piece of shit that deserves to die. I just want
• 34:37
  to be like, can you do you have any examples of stuff you've done?
• 34:39
  Maybe before I become sympathetic to you. He shot a man that didn't
• 34:45
  have no gun, Dan, he shot a man that didn't have no gun.
• 34:50
  He says it four or five times, and eventually eventually it's Sully who's
• 34:54
  like, hey, man, did you did you know he didn't have a
• 34:58
  gun? And Johnny Cash like, no, then I feel like you.
• 35:04
  It's a gray area. Many shot a kid monologue from die Hard. There's
• 35:14
  only one thing they teach they don't teach you in the academy, and that's
• 35:17
  how to live with a mistake. How to live with a mistake. We
• 35:25
  referenced that monologue from die Hard at least once a season anyway. So Johnny
• 35:30
  Cash so that that's what's going on with them. Meanwhile, also at one
• 35:37
  point in time, everything kind of comes to a head as everyone meets up
• 35:39
  at Sister Ruth's revival meeting. Doctor Quinn goes to check out and be like,
• 35:45
  okay, what's going on here? Like everyone's getting there and everybody's cheering
• 35:49
  and clapping and say they and hallowly to the Lord. Most notably black people
• 35:54
  are there. Robberty. Roberty and Grace are both there because they're welcome at
• 36:00
  this church. They're allowed to be here at this church, and so it's
• 36:04
  appealing to everybody. Doctor Quinn is there, The Reverend is also there to
• 36:08
  take a look at what's going on. And Kid Cole shows up even though
• 36:14
  there are men there who are also trying to kill him, and there's a
• 36:16
  kind of a funny bit where the men who are there to kill Kid Cole
• 36:21
  show up and Sister Ruth shoves them down. It's like, okay, take
• 36:23
  your seats, we're starting the church meeting. I thought that was kind of
• 36:27
  funny. Whatever. Sister Ruth performs another miracle. She pulls up an old
• 36:34
  man who is deaf in one ear, deafen his left ear, and says,
• 36:37
  Okay, by the power of the Lord, you are healed, and
• 36:40
  he goes, ah, nope, nope, I still can't hear shit.
• 36:45
  They can't hear anything out of this ear. Then you need to believe harder.
• 36:50
  No, I'm believing pretty hard. I've always believed in God and I
• 36:52
  still can't hear out of this ear. It's very funny. And then she
• 36:55
  says, well, that means there's someone among us who does not believe in
• 36:59
  the or of the Lord to heal. And the old man just turns and
• 37:02
  narcs immediately he's a turn about. Oh yeah, that's doctor Mike. Oh
• 37:06
  yeah. And then they cast So Sister Ruth is pulling both the Santa Claus
• 37:10
  and the tinker Bell effect. Yeah, it's like the end of Elf,
• 37:15
  where it's like the Dad's not singing the song? Yeah she again, she
• 37:21
  is not. She does not turn out to be evil. At the end,
• 37:24
  they're like, thank you crazy preacher lady, which, like they set
• 37:29
  it up so much, so I have to ask this question, do we
• 37:35
  think that Sister Ruth actually heals Horace's gout and the old man's hearing problem?
• 37:43
  Do we think that she actually heals him? More importantly, does the show
• 37:47
  seem think that she actually does this? Because Horace doesn't start limping again and
• 37:52
  that old man doesn't like get his like hearing it out again, So,
• 37:57
  like I does the show the show seems to actually believe that she can do
• 38:01
  this? Do we believe this? It feels like halfway through like they were
• 38:07
  in the process of filming this episode and then somebody from the studio showed up
• 38:10
  and be like, you do realize that the people that watch this show totally
• 38:15
  believe in faith healing? Right? You realize you can't really do a faith
• 38:19
  healing is bullshit episode? You're pissing in our demographics mouths, so bail on
• 38:24
  it, and doctor and Mike in the middle of it, it's like,
• 38:29
  what about all these other beliefs? Right? And so, like faith healing
• 38:32
  is something that's amongst a lot of cultures, and she does say like,
• 38:37
  let's you know, She's like, what about if you don't believe in this
• 38:40
  or you don't do that? But like, I feel like the show took
• 38:44
  a hard turn right at this point where it's like you need both, yeah,
• 38:47
  have faith and science and like let's appeal to everyone, which is like
• 38:52
  how I think those shows at that time. It's a show that's like we
• 38:57
  really can't take a stand on one thing or another, so we're just gonna
• 39:00
  say yes. It's so weird they sound like they're taking a stand like in
• 39:05
  that in that question when uh, doctor Quinn calls around and says, hey,
• 39:08
  guess what we got, Like we have the Cheyenne, they don't believe
• 39:13
  in your God. Yeah, we have a lot of people there who who
• 39:16
  are this who heals them? And then Sister Ruth kind of says, well
• 39:21
  you do. And it's the same bullshit Like if you've ever like done like
• 39:24
  a sixth grade, have you ever spoken like a critical sixth grade or at
• 39:29
  a youth group, This stuff happens all the fucking time, Like, Oh,
• 39:32
  the the Lord healed your cancer. Know, the doctor healed my cancer.
• 39:37
  Oh but the Lord gave the doctor the ability. It's such a boring,
• 39:42
  stupid like rhetoric. It's it's using the test to verify its own results.
• 39:49
  And at that point you're just like, it's it's done, It's done.
• 39:52
  And this all culminates in this episode um when kid Cole gets punched in
• 39:57
  the chest during the like one and only kind of fight in this episode,
• 40:01
  he gets punched in the chest and he's bleeding out the mouth. Sister and
• 40:07
  doctor Mike has to inject him with like a needle and pull some blood out
• 40:13
  out of his lungs. You're you're both looking at me like I'm the only
• 40:15
  person who watched this episode. I might as well. Yeah, yeah,
• 40:19
  I'm completely I'm wrapped. Tell me what happened next, Marty. So he's
• 40:28
  dying, He's dying on the table and doctor quinn is is operating on him,
• 40:35
  pulling blood out of his lungs, pulling a needle in there, and
• 40:37
  sister Ruth shows up and it's like you need to live, you got something
• 40:42
  to live for a live for me, You're dummy or something like this,
• 40:45
  and then doctor Quinn completely out of character, is just like I need you
• 40:50
  to pray. So Sister Ruth is sitting there praying to the Lord to guide
• 40:58
  doctor Quinn's hand, and doctor Quinn does, in fact, like save Johnny
• 41:02
  Cash's life. It's up for debate. I guess if Sister Ruth actually did
• 41:08
  anything, but according to the two miracles she already performed, maybe she can
• 41:14
  according to the show. So I just at this point, at this point
• 41:17
  in time, like doctor Quinn should be losing her mind, she should be
• 41:22
  shaving her head and contemplating suicide because everything she thinks about should be thrown into
• 41:28
  complete question, Like everything about her entire existence is questioned right now. I
• 41:35
  mean, but does she heal them? Like the guy still can't hear,
• 41:37
  and like what was it gout? Like it could just be the medicine that
• 41:42
  Doctor Quinn. And maybe that's like the show wants you to think, because
• 41:45
  that's it. That's my point is that like the old man does say,
• 41:50
  oh look I can hear, and Horace does say, oh look I can
• 41:53
  walk, and they never go back. Remember, Sister Ruth is never shown
• 41:59
  to be wrong, And I feel like I feel like doctor Quinn's internal monologue
• 42:07
  is her going like, oh, I'm learning the importance of the placebo effect,
• 42:10
  like she's like, Oh, these people are so fucking stupid that if
• 42:14
  they think they don't have gout anymore, it kind of happens. She knows
• 42:19
  about that from the beginning though, she straight up says to Horace, like,
• 42:22
  Horace, sometimes people get carried away and forget that they're sick, but
• 42:25
  you'll remember later. And he never does. He never remembers later, which
• 42:31
  means that, according to the show, he's healed. Yeah. Also,
• 42:37
  the last part of my notes, it just says, what the fuck's that's
• 42:40
  how this show ends with my notes. Also, also at some point in
• 42:44
  time here, like doctor Quinn should probably be questioning her faith entirely because oh
• 42:50
  this because also remember this show does straight up say that even organized religion is
• 42:54
  there to uphold white supremacy of structural racism. That's a huge chunk. Like
• 43:00
  even the quote unquote good reverend who is doing it right, is like being
• 43:05
  crazy racist right in front of doctor Quinn's face. So at this point,
• 43:09
  like doctor, I used to write reviews of movies, and I got to
• 43:15
  a point where like I had to do a lot of Christian movies because I
• 43:17
  get stuck with that shit beat and I refused to do it because I was
• 43:20
  like, I was just writing the same review over and over and over again.
• 43:24
  And the reason why those those movies are boring is because when you're making
• 43:29
  stuff for Christian for a Christian audience, you can't really show your main character
• 43:35
  questioning their faith at any time, despite the overwhelming evidence that they should be.
• 43:40
  Right halfway through this, halfway through this, like the point that doctor
• 43:46
  Mike should come up with this, Oh shit, all religion is bad and
• 43:51
  bullshit. Okay again, remind you she killed she nearly killed a child.
• 43:55
  Sister Ruth almost kills a child. I have a brief aside. Do either
• 44:01
  of you guys know anybody that's ever been faith healed? Not? I'm sure
• 44:07
  we know people, but no one's admitted it to us, do you man?
• 44:10
  Yeah? My so, my grandma was faith healed by a guy who
• 44:15
  whose credentials as a faith healer was keeps getting struck by lightning. It was
• 44:21
  like, I've been stripped by lightning like five times and I'm still alive.
• 44:25
  So Andy like did a faith healing on her, and her like hand tremors
• 44:30
  that she wouldn't stop complaining about went away, and we were all just kind
• 44:36
  of like, we're just not even gonna fucking like talk about it because she
• 44:38
  won't shut up about it. But if we questioned it in any way,
• 44:42
  the fucking hand tremors are gonna come back. So we were all just like,
• 44:45
  yeah, you got faith healed. Good job, lightning man, you
• 44:50
  did it. So I guess placebo effects go a long fucking way. Cool.
• 44:59
  Yeah, bonus episode. That's that's Patreon shit. Just a weird thing.
• 45:05
  Mostly, the thing that I've always stuck on is the guy's qualifications as
• 45:08
  a faith healer. Was I keep getting struck by lightning? I mean valid,
• 45:14
  Like, who just keeps getting struck by lightning? Something is up with
• 45:17
  that? It was like five times. I don't know why. I don't
• 45:21
  know who. He just loves hanging out in fields. Yeah, more than
• 45:24
  once. I have to stop wearing my hat with a giant antenna on it.
• 45:32
  Nobody even buy me this hat. Nobody in his church had the question.
• 45:37
  I'm like, well, if there is a god, maybe you're like
• 45:39
  a super bad person. Yeah, being struck by lightning is like the number
• 45:45
  one sign that you're fucking up. Yeah, it's like God's whole thing since
• 45:52
  ancient times to spin this. That's God giving you a very subtle hint.
• 46:00
  He's like the definition of like when life gives you lemonade. It's like,
• 46:06
  you know what, if I'm gonna keep getting struck by lightning, I'm gonna
• 46:08
  make a commodity. Yeah. Around the third lightning strike, he's like,
• 46:13
  I don't see this going away, so I'm gonna get my money out.
• 46:16
  Yep. Fun fact about lightning. When you get struck by lightning, the
• 46:21
  sweat in your in your body explodes and turns to steam and blows all your
• 46:24
  clothes off. That's like a it's it's a recurring fact that people who are
• 46:30
  started by lightning wake up in fucking fields completely bare ass naked, like terminating
• 46:37
  exactly exactly, So what that guy's qualification is? Just like, I've been
• 46:43
  naked in so many fields. I've been bare ass naked. Let me heal
• 46:46
  your grandma, Like I have additional questions, like if a guy can out
• 46:52
  you, was like, I have been struck by lightning five times, I'm
• 46:54
  here to heal you. My first question would be like what, where and
• 46:59
  when? Like I need I need to know. Okay, thank you for
• 47:01
  your qualifications. Let's stay deeper. Yeah, where was the school of getting
• 47:07
  struck by lightning? Please? Can you get as far away from me as
• 47:12
  possible, especially if you're outside, I would just start sprinting in the opposite
• 47:19
  direction. Cool man, Let me just take all of my small electronic devices
• 47:23
  and move them over here to the other side of the table. All right,
• 47:30
  man, cool hey, can you can you be a favor and just
• 47:34
  go walk past that microwave for me? My burrito is not quite warm enough.
• 47:38
  He gets near a Geiger counter and it starts going fucking berserk. There
• 47:44
  we go. We made me pulled something out of that. It sounded like
• 47:50
  that wasn't going anywhere, but we got something from it. Yeah, content
• 47:54
  those moments. It was one of those moments where like, you were telling
• 47:58
  me something and I was like kind of listening, and then I went back
• 48:00
  to it and I was like, wait, he was struck five times by
• 48:04
  lightning. Let's just edit out the long silence where you guys were like,
• 48:08
  why did you tell me that? And then I had to be like the
• 48:10
  lightning thing, guys, the lightning thing. Hold in on that. Okay.
• 48:15
  It was it was just I really want to get to this next episode.
• 48:17
  Okay, yeah, yeah, let's let's let's let's keep let's get back
• 48:22
  on my sister's being podcast dad this time. Yeah, yeah, that's cute.
• 48:27
  Okay, So this all fucking like comes to a head after Doctor Quinn
• 48:32
  saves Johnny Cash and then he's about to like walk this horse thief back kind
• 48:39
  of like it's three He's gonna walk the line exactly. Also, can I
• 48:45
  can I just go ahead and say I know that this is he's he's acting
• 48:49
  as a and they're all personas, but like, it's it's a bitch move
• 48:52
  to watch Johnny Cash, who wrote the lines I shot him man in Reno,
• 48:57
  just to watch him die just sit there and go, oh no,
• 49:00
  shure man, that doesn't have any going And I realize it's all bullshit.
• 49:04
  I realize it's all persona and all acting. But it's just I fuck this,
• 49:07
  especially because I think at the end of this episode he lets the guy
• 49:10
  go Yeah, he like he like, I don't understand fully what happens here.
• 49:15
  I thought it was like a three ten to Yuma situation where he like
• 49:17
  had to drag the man onto the stagecoach to go to the prison or whatever.
• 49:22
  But he just kind of like, Okay, that bullet in your arm
• 49:25
  is punishment enough? You keep on the straight and narrow path and goodbye.
• 49:30
  And then he goes off, and I'm just like, motherfucker, there's still
• 49:32
  a bounty on his head. Just another guy's gonna go get him now,
• 49:36
  like you just you just wounded him and left him and left him to the
• 49:39
  wolves, you idiot. Do you think he's in like two more episodes?
• 49:43
  Do you think after this he's just like an accountant? Yeah, right,
• 49:46
  Like it doesn't make any sense. He should have died. He should have
• 49:52
  died in this. Oh there there is. As he's walking the guy out,
• 49:58
  the guy's brothers come to him and they have a showdown in the middle
• 50:01
  of the town and they're like, put down that gun, kid, Cole,
• 50:06
  We're here to get you. And then from a fucking balcony nearby,
• 50:12
  like somebody kicks open the door and it's doctor Quinn's oldest son and it's Sully,
• 50:16
  and doctor Quinn's son has a shotgun and Sully has a bow and arrow.
• 50:22
  Just so cardcam ridiculous. And then other people show up, like the
• 50:28
  doctor, another guy has a gun, the like proprietor of the saloon who's
• 50:31
  like a heathen who also is a pimp. I think he might be,
• 50:36
  Like, there are prostitutes in this show. They're never said as such,
• 50:39
  but like yeah, I mean they kind of say it's a brothel, and
• 50:45
  the guy that runs the brothel comes out, and so everybody in the town
• 50:49
  is just like, fuck this guy. And that happens. So there we
• 50:52
  go. H culminates. Also, the reverend goes, oh, I've been
• 50:58
  a huge racist piece of shit. Of course he can give be married in
• 51:00
  our church, and no one raises any objections to this, Like it ends
• 51:04
  with them getting married and everybody seems fine, which makes me wonder, hey,
• 51:08
  reverend, there's the actually a problem with the congregation because it because nobody,
• 51:16
  nobody seems to be that upset about this. Maybe maybe he never asked
• 51:23
  them about it. He was like, just listen, just based off of
• 51:25
  geography, I'm assuming all these people are racist as shit. I don't.
• 51:30
  I don't really, I haven't had a conversation about it, because like I
• 51:34
  don't want it to get weird. But you know, I'm picking. I'm
• 51:37
  just going off of data. Why would I ever talk to these people.
• 51:40
  I'm only their faith leader. I mean, he was a pretty terrible one
• 51:45
  to begin with, we've already a true and the first scene, everyone's like,
• 51:49
  this fucking guy, shut up, it's a dog shit priest. There
• 51:54
  we go. And then yeah, like at the beginning of this episode,
• 51:58
  I said, and then McKay actor Quinn's like, I've learned that today that
• 52:01
  faith and science can co exist, faith and healing can co exist. And
• 52:06
  I kind of go, is that what you learned? All right? If
• 52:10
  that's what you want to take from this, If this is the show Mom
• 52:15
  watch that originated my name, I have questions like with Mom, and you
• 52:24
  know what I think. I feel like Mom's just like I really want my
• 52:28
  daughter to run around and have a terrible day. I want her to be
• 52:35
  the only person that's trying to tell people accurate things and nobody lets its turn.
• 52:40
  That's all I want for my daughter. Should have named your Cassandra.
• 52:45
  This girl was going to suffer a lot of fools in her life. You
• 52:52
  know what? That one goes, all right, So now we're gonna go
• 52:54
  on to season six. We don't have a rating for this. We all
• 52:59
  just could that this episode sucks both episodes. Sure, at the ending of
• 53:06
  the next one, yes, all right, So now we're on season six,
• 53:09
  episode eighteen, Birdman Michael Keaton is nowhere to be found heartbreaking. Neither
• 53:17
  is Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law. Originally airs April eighteenth, nineteen ninety
• 53:22
  eight, directed by Bethany Rooney. See if Bethany Rooney has done anything else
• 53:29
  of note, I should have nothing, just a bunch of TV shows Ncis
• 53:35
  Castle, Melrose Place. Gilmore has just just directed a bunch of TV show
• 53:38
  episodes. Also shows Mom Loved I'll do the one sentence summary from Wikipedia.
• 53:47
  Doctor Mike grapples with her fear for brian safety when he befriends a seemingly harmless
• 53:52
  but eccentric fellow who thinks he's a bird. All right, So now it's
• 53:57
  April eighteenth, nineteen ninety eight. Brian is Doctor Quinn's youngest son, who
• 54:01
  is like twelve at this point, and this is the last season of the
• 54:07
  show. They are running out of ideas. They probably already know they've been
• 54:12
  canceled. Their heart throb Sully is nowhere to be seen. Like I said
• 54:15
  before, he's on a secret mission for the government. And there's a much
• 54:19
  less interesting, handsome like sheriff in town who's oh the Eastwood knockoff. Yeah,
• 54:24
  yeah, that guy, the actor who plays Sully. It feels like
• 54:29
  he narrowly avoided doing porn, like like it was this role was his last
• 54:36
  shot to not end up doing porn in la he did. He did the
• 54:39
  other thing you do when you're just above doing porn, which is soap operas.
• 54:45
  He was a soap opera actor on like Guiding Light in like General Hospital
• 54:49
  forever and as far as I can tell now, he just doesn't do much.
• 54:52
  He has reunited with Jane Seymour for not one, but two Hallmark Christmas
• 54:55
  movies. So that's how everybody's career is going here. Brian and his older
• 55:01
  brother are out in the woods talking about Brian's science project that he's got to
• 55:07
  do for science. So yeah, man, Also, were you allowed to
• 55:19
  be creative at that time? So so Brian is going to eighteen sixty seven
• 55:24
  Montessori school apparently, where the teacher is saying, yes, children be loud
• 55:31
  and creative, and we absolutely won't paddle you with this plank. That's not
• 55:37
  what we do here. Go forth, learn things that aren't related to farm.
• 55:43
  We totally encourage. I was like, this, get's got a great
• 55:45
  growth mindset over here like throwing out my teacher terms. Currently, I'm like,
• 55:52
  what's in there doing some dead poets society shit. So in the very
• 56:02
  progressive eighteen hundreds, uh school, he's got a science project to do,
• 56:08
  and the science project was apparently just do a science. It seems like there
• 56:14
  were no parameters or anything this. So the teachers just like, hey,
• 56:20
  do science and then come back on Friday. So Brian and his brother are
• 56:24
  talking about Brian's science project like it's a modern day middle school, let's do
• 56:30
  on Friday. And there's no poster board in sight. I'm assuming the baking
• 56:36
  soda volcano hadn't been invented yet, which made this much harder. Wait,
• 56:43
  no, you can about they had bicarbonate of soda. They had. Those
• 56:47
  are the two things. They had. Vinegar and they had, but they
• 56:51
  hadn't realized it could be in a volcano. Marty, but we forgot.
• 56:54
  His mom is a dog. Every day for him is a science project,
• 57:02
  and he's over here like what did I do for my science or I don't
• 57:06
  know, talk to your mom. He can't surgery, he can't bring a
• 57:10
  guy into the school and then drain the fluid from his lungs. He could
• 57:15
  be like, this is medicine. I don't know your mom is a scientist.
• 57:21
  Talk to her. Behold, I left some bread out. Now I
• 57:24
  have penicillin. Who wants their smallpox cured? Come here? Who wants to
• 57:30
  touch me? Be real popular with the ladies, right, But no,
• 57:39
  he's just sitting there, like what if I built a flying machine and he's
• 57:44
  trying out his kite. It's it's a fucking kite. When a man falls
• 57:49
  from the sky. Yes, a guy falls from the sky who was attempting
• 57:55
  to fly in This man's uh so wearing bird he's wearing giant bird wings and
• 58:04
  uh yeah, there's just an eccentric old man that lives in the forest who
• 58:07
  thinks that he's a bird. He hurts himself in the flight, so they
• 58:09
  take him home to talk to their mom, who is, as Mickey pointed
• 58:14
  out, a doctor. And it's a subtle detail that can get past you.
• 58:16
  Yeah, I don't know if anyone remembers that she is a doctor.
• 58:21
  Sometimes we get lost in there and the man's name is Martin Chesterfield and Mickey,
• 58:25
  I swear to God, I did not know that his name was Martin
• 58:29
  when I picked this episode. I did not realize that we were doing that.
• 58:36
  It's it's very prescient that Mikhaila thinks that Martin is a complete dipshit.
• 58:45
  That motherfucker's talking about birds again. I'm to zone out for a little bit.
• 58:53
  Okay, cool, No, Marty is just like, we've talked enough
• 58:58
  about my sister. All back to me. Yeah, you've just described my
• 59:04
  entire friendship with him. This. Mordy also does the thing where while you're
• 59:07
  talking, he stares off into the distance and then just starts talking about birds.
• 59:14
  All right, I'm done shit talking back. Somebody who remembers this episode,
• 59:16
  go, I'm gonna say this episode actually made me really sad. Yeah,
• 59:21
  okay, but overall impressions of this episode, well, especially because of
• 59:29
  like my career and what I do. I was really sad because I was
• 59:34
  like, oh, I mean, we'll have talk about the ending, but
• 59:36
  it's like instead of like helping everyone except this person and like helping them understand
• 59:43
  like uniqueness in our minds and how we might see the world or like I
• 59:46
  don't know, ask him about trauma or like if anything's going on with him,
• 59:52
  they're like, you can't be accepted in society. And also I don't
• 59:55
  want you to go to an institution so be alone own. It hints at
• 1:00:01
  it, It hints at it every once in a while, like, uh,
• 1:00:06
  doctor Mike says something like maybe something happened to him out in the woods
• 1:00:09
  that made him feel this way, or she makes notes of the like scars
• 1:00:15
  on his wrists from the shackles that they kept him in at the asylum,
• 1:00:19
  and it's like, guess what, this dude lives in the in the woods
• 1:00:22
  and nothing has hurt him more than that. So she hints at it a
• 1:00:25
  couple of times, but nope, but ultimately she doesn't take that that strong
• 1:00:30
  of us dance for it. She's kind of backed up again. She never
• 1:00:34
  does Yeah, I didn say. She probably does the best she can.
• 1:00:39
  Positions of this episode are should we send this guy off to an asylum and
• 1:00:45
  beat wouldn't it be cool if we had a bird guy? But not even
• 1:00:52
  like our town. It's like, sorry, Bud, you're still not welcome.
• 1:00:54
  You're not welcome anywhere. Yeah. Yeah, they don't really try to
• 1:01:00
  like deal latter jail. Yeah. Also, that guy whoever the protagonist,
• 1:01:07
  has the most punchable face I've ever seen, and I swear he probably only
• 1:01:13
  gets typecasted as an asshole because he has a face that anyone would want to
• 1:01:16
  punch? Which one the one who's uh like? At first I thought he
• 1:01:22
  was the mayor, but he's not the mayor because then he was like serving
• 1:01:24
  booze and then he was a barber. Like I don't really know what this
• 1:01:29
  guy does, but his same as Jake, and he's terrible. He's the
• 1:01:34
  definition of who asked you? So I think I think I think Jake Jake
• 1:01:37
  is. He does referred himself as the mayor. He says he's like has
• 1:01:40
  problems with like the mayor of the town. Um, I pulled up Jake.
• 1:01:44
  Yes, most punchable face I am now remember I do want to punch
• 1:01:46
  my computer screen right now. There's one of him dressed as a woman,
• 1:01:51
  which I am curious what that episode is. Jake Jake is I guess the
• 1:01:54
  antagonist of the later episodes or whatever. But yeah, he is the mayor
• 1:02:00
  of the town. But he's also a barber. I guess he's got He's
• 1:02:06
  got a lot of jobs. Jake's got a lot of stuff going on.
• 1:02:08
  This episode also introduces a rich man whose name I think is Pruitt. He's
• 1:02:13
  like a fancy well to do guy who recognizes Martin after doctor Quinn takes him
• 1:02:19
  in and gives him a shower and a shave and a haircut, recognizes him
• 1:02:22
  and goes, wait a minute, we've met before. You're from like a
• 1:02:24
  really ritzy, well to do family in New York. I'm going to call
• 1:02:29
  them, and so they telegraph. They telegraph the NYPD and this like long
• 1:02:34
  Island, uh, like sophisticates family, And that's how they piece together that
• 1:02:39
  the Birdman, whose name is Martin the birdman um is a asylum escapee and
• 1:02:49
  also from a rich, wealthy family who I think would probably just find to
• 1:02:53
  lock this dude up and do like a Jane Ayre situation. And to be
• 1:03:00
  honest, the town of Colorado Springs is treating him about the same. But
• 1:03:05
  yeah, over the course of a couple of days, doctor Mike is getting
• 1:03:09
  him a little closer to being not rehabilitated, but socialized. There's a moment
• 1:03:17
  where he starts to like peck at his food and she's like, hey,
• 1:03:22
  you're part bird part man, right maybe be a little bit more part man
• 1:03:27
  right now, And he goes, oh, yeah, okay. Sure.
• 1:03:30
  They know he wants a community and he wants a family, and he's keeps
• 1:03:36
  fighting family among the birds because that keeps him the safest, and she's being
• 1:03:40
  his family. And then at the end it's like fuck you. The town
• 1:03:45
  acts like this guy who thinks he's a bird is the most dangerous thing ever
• 1:03:50
  where. They're like, like they it's not like he thinks he's a bear.
• 1:03:53
  He just thinks he's a bird. And they act like he came in
• 1:03:57
  with an ak forty seven strett to each arm. They're terrified at the fact
• 1:04:00
  that heat. Like, Okay, this guy is vegan pretty much. He
• 1:04:04
  won't eat eggs or meat, and they're like, how dare he protect these
• 1:04:09
  eggs? Like he's just vegan. Yeah, he's like he's like holding the
• 1:04:15
  eggs and like, how dare we eat? He's like, oh, the
• 1:04:17
  audacity, do not eat chicken eggs? How dare he does? He wakes
• 1:04:21
  them up in the morning by like perching up and whistling from the uh from
• 1:04:27
  the perch, which, just to be clear, in bird language, he's
• 1:04:30
  up there going sex sex sax sex like saz sax pretty sacks. But no,
• 1:04:35
  okay, whatever, we'll put that aside. He's a very just a
• 1:04:40
  simple roof pervert. Every Compare these two episodes, though, Compare the belief
• 1:04:49
  system of these two fucking episodes, because both of these episodes are another person
• 1:04:55
  coming to town, are about delusional people coming to town. Right, is
• 1:05:00
  this guy thinks he's a he's part bird? Uh? Any more any stranger
• 1:05:04
  than this woman thinks that she can heal people with God. Those two things
• 1:05:10
  should be treated equally. Hell, if anything, there's more evidence to the
• 1:05:15
  idea that Martin is part bird because he does accurately predict the wind patterns of
• 1:05:20
  the town like he's using science. Yeah, and Sister Ruth is a more
• 1:05:29
  pressing danger because she's confiscating people's medicine. He just really likes feathers. She
• 1:05:34
  almost actually killed someone, Yes, a child. We cannot emphasize enough,
• 1:05:41
  but she nearly kills a child with a He just wants to not eat eggs
• 1:05:45
  and build a enough. He could not be less of an issue like he's
• 1:05:50
  You could just he could just be around and it would be a science teacher.
• 1:05:56
  Actually, yes, parameter, that's that's the other part of this,
• 1:06:01
  by the way, is that uh, he is helping Brian with his science
• 1:06:05
  project, which is to build a flying machine. And there's there's like another
• 1:06:10
  this is another thing that talks about like faith in the most strange of it's
• 1:06:15
  a it's another faith versus science episode or faith in science working together episode,
• 1:06:19
  but it does it in the most strange ass backwards ways essentially, where like
• 1:06:27
  they're trying to put together this flying machine this kite, uh, and Brian's
• 1:06:32
  like at some point like maybe I should just give up or whatever. And
• 1:06:38
  I would say it's more like an airplane, because they do not so much
• 1:06:41
  a kite. They do make a reference to the Wright Brothers at the end
• 1:06:44
  for some reason. It's and then it's all about like things don't always work
• 1:06:48
  out the first time apparently was the motto of that or the message we were
• 1:06:54
  supposed to receive did not receive that? Yeah, and and and then you
• 1:06:57
  talk about like the lift problem things like this, and there's a good message
• 1:07:02
  where Birdman is going I'm just gonna call him Birdman says like scientific endeavors have
• 1:07:09
  come from failure, keep trying and keep going. But also he never actually
• 1:07:13
  says like we need to learn from the mistakes. Whatever. Dan, you've
• 1:07:16
  got something. Dan looks like he's about to die. I before I like
• 1:07:20
  they mentioned the right brothers. There was a period where I thought his family
• 1:07:25
  was going to be the right brothers. I thought they were going to do
• 1:07:28
  that match it twist, were like, the right brothers were going to show
• 1:07:30
  him be like, come on, dad, come tell us you're crazy stories
• 1:07:33
  about how a man can fly. Okay, that would have been a better
• 1:07:39
  ending with him flying off. I think it should have ended with him literally
• 1:07:43
  flying over the town. That would have been great. I think it should
• 1:07:47
  have had the ending from the movie Birdman. I think it should have ended
• 1:07:51
  with him jumping out of window and Emma Stone appears and looks around. I
• 1:07:56
  thought you meant shooting himself in the face. Yeah, he's he's just such
• 1:08:00
  not He's not an issue in anyway. At one point, he breaks into
• 1:08:03
  a building to retrieve his nest, his hair, his hair so he can
• 1:08:09
  continue building his nest, and people are like, he broke into the barbershop,
• 1:08:14
  We're all fucked. Also, what a drama queen. He's like,
• 1:08:16
  he's gonna tie me up and slip bifes are okay, Jake, Yeah,
• 1:08:20
  still out, buddy. Also, what also, Jake, you talked about
• 1:08:27
  his gun. I've been contemplating Jake's face. Since you said how punchable it
• 1:08:30
  was, he looks like a failed attempt to create Benedict Cumberbatch. Yes,
• 1:08:35
  he it's the minute that he walked onto the screen. I was like,
• 1:08:39
  I would punch that face. Yeah, he looks evil and that's the only
• 1:08:44
  reason he has that role. His lines are terrible. He's a terrible actor.
• 1:08:47
  He just was born with the most punchable His face just looks like every
• 1:08:51
  in between every single scene he's foreclosing on someone's house. It makes the casting
• 1:08:58
  director's job so easy when like a guy just walks on set and it's like,
• 1:09:02
  hey, I'm Steve Williams auditioning for the role. Fuck this guy.
• 1:09:05
  Fuck yeah, I hate your face. You've got the job. He really
• 1:09:11
  wanted to be the sheriff, and instead he got Jake. Way through the
• 1:09:15
  audition, a producer threw a chair at him, just as casting directors just
• 1:09:21
  like, you've got the job. Get out of my face or I will
• 1:09:25
  choke you out, just digging his fingernails into the table they're sitting at.
• 1:09:30
  I hate looking at you so much. You're so perfect. But it also
• 1:09:36
  means that they didn't he actually hear him read the lines, which explains the
• 1:09:40
  rest of the fucking performance. Okay, so anyways, this episode, it
• 1:09:46
  just yeah, and then at the very end, can I just say he
• 1:09:50
  doesn't even He's like, hold on, let me fix this doctor Quinn's son,
• 1:09:56
  let me fix your flying machine and your airplane. And all he does
• 1:09:59
  is hie something to it. He puts a ribbon on it, and then
• 1:10:03
  it flies like the tail of a kite. And then he just hides behind
• 1:10:14
  a bush. He disappears, and I was like, oh, he's just
• 1:10:15
  hiding behind a bush for this family to leave. He's just like, let
• 1:10:18
  me be a bird. Yeah. You know, you know how all airplanes
• 1:10:21
  have giant like flags tied to the back. There's a row of flags and
• 1:10:27
  ribbons behind every single airplane. I just watched the movie Nope last night,
• 1:10:30
  So minor spoilers here. That's why they don't get eaten by aliens. Yeah,
• 1:10:35
  so how does it end again? Does he just continue being a birdman?
• 1:10:39
  Yeah? Goes down the hold on, they lock him up in jail,
• 1:10:45
  or breaking into the barbershop, which apparently was a threat, even though
• 1:10:47
  it looks like you can literally knock down every single one of those houses.
• 1:10:50
  Like I like anyone could just walk in at any time. You just become
• 1:10:57
  an accidental kool aid man every time you like up over your shoelaces. Yea.
• 1:11:02
  So he's in there, He's just like I want my hair, and
• 1:11:05
  Jake's like, you're gonna slip my throat. You have a gun, Jake,
• 1:11:08
  and you're like ten feet away. He okay, cram down, drama
• 1:11:12
  queen. Then they just take him to jail. This is the Wild West.
• 1:11:15
  One of people's top three hobbies is throwing people through windows. This guy
• 1:11:19
  could not be less dangerous, especially for the time period. So so he's
• 1:11:26
  in episodes kind of just like, why is this an episode? So he's
• 1:11:30
  in jail, and we have now put in calls. People in the town
• 1:11:32
  have put in telegrams to the asylum or to the NYPD and to his family,
• 1:11:40
  so everyone knows who this guy is and his family are coming to lock
• 1:11:43
  him away. And doctor Mike is like, Oh, if there was only
• 1:11:47
  something I could do, maybe I can talk to your doctor and convince you're
• 1:11:51
  the doctor that's coming from New York and convince them, which she doesn't even
• 1:11:56
  get a chance to try this. She doesn't even get to try to convince
• 1:11:59
  the door to release him into like her cousin or whatever. Before she gets
• 1:12:03
  a chance to do that, the sheriff is just like, hey, hey,
• 1:12:05
  doctor Quinn's older son. I'm not saying there's a spare key or anything,
• 1:12:12
  but I'm gonna look the other way for about twenty minutes and that's it.
• 1:12:16
  They just let him go. They just let him out of jail and
• 1:12:18
  he returns to the woods and probably dies, like yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:24
  Like that's what I mean. Like instead of being like, hey,
• 1:12:27
  townspeople, like get your shit together, he's you know she I mean,
• 1:12:31
  she tries, but like at the same time, like the best option in
• 1:12:35
  this was see you later. You don't get it anywhere. She ultimately doesn't
• 1:12:41
  do anything. In the conclusion of the episode, does she Like she says
• 1:12:45
  that she's going to talk to the doctor, but she doesn't get a chance
• 1:12:47
  to so ultimately, like doctor Quinn has zero agency or bearing. On the
• 1:12:53
  end of this episode, doctor Quinn let a man go who needs help and
• 1:12:58
  support and was just like, send for yourself, go die in the woods.
• 1:13:02
  Go die in the woods, like dyeing in the woods of starvation.
• 1:13:08
  Can't It's way less traumatizing than sending you back to the asylum. And that's
• 1:13:12
  all I got for you. Kid. So later, go out into the
• 1:13:15
  woods and dress like an animal of prey. Go can't immediately mulled by a
• 1:13:20
  fucking bear the second year old camera. And then yeah, and then as
• 1:13:28
  as the plane that they built together flies for a little bit, I mean
• 1:13:32
  it does eventually come to the grounds. I don't know what their what their
• 1:13:36
  goal was here, but then we do get a little like there's there's a
• 1:13:41
  title and James Seymour reads a voiceover that's like two bicycle shop brothers owners named
• 1:13:47
  the Right Brothers began experimenting with flying machines and they never really worked. But
• 1:13:53
  if they tried hard enough and stuck with it, now we have airplanes.
• 1:13:57
  What okay, thanks, I thought, Yeah, this whole episode was not
• 1:14:05
  about the flying machine. Yeah, no one cares about that. Jane.
• 1:14:11
  There's a man who thinks he can lay eggs. It should have been like,
• 1:14:18
  if anyone you know needs help or support, please call Instead it was
• 1:14:25
  the Right Brothers. They never gave up it. Neither should you. But
• 1:14:29
  it's a terrible message to send when you spent the past forty five minutes with
• 1:14:32
  a man who is delusional. When you were talking about human beings who have
• 1:14:40
  different planes of reality in their brains, you should not tell them to never
• 1:14:44
  give up. That's the exact opposite message you should say. It's like,
• 1:14:48
  Okay, this show always starts off really good. It's like James Seymour,
• 1:14:51
  like doctor Quinn. She's like, I'm on this, I'm a badass.
• 1:14:55
  Look at me, like I'm really helping him. And then it gets to
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  the point where it's like, oh, there's two many men in this town.
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  Sorry, I'm out numbered. Feel later, I said my piece,
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  and I can't do anything else. Only one doctor here, and I'm a
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  woman, so pizza. I feel like that's the overarching thrust of the show
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  is just her like one going from scene to scene being like, would everybody
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  stop being fucking stupid for five goddamn seconds, and everybody's okay, yeah,
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  okay, all right, fuck me, I guess all right bye, And
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  then at the end of the situation just almost resolves itself and she's like,
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  this is the best I'm in to get. I hope to God that this
• 1:15:38
  this series ends with like Mike and Sully moving to Los Angeles. Also,
• 1:15:47
  I just realized that they have the same names as the main characters in Monsters,
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  inc. I hope that Mike and Sully, like say, fucked this
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  down and moved to La, Like, I mean, doctor Mike is literally
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  over here, Like yeah, I don't know. I'm still trying to get
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  them to see me as a doctor or like a person. I don't even
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  think I can vote good luck with that. I'm trying to teach these people
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  what influenza is. So the Birdman is pretty low on my priorities. I
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  didn't even take away that. The lesson of this episode is like, all
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  right, so if your uncle keeps wearing a fake beak and jerking off on
• 1:16:30
  the eggs, just release him into the woods. Just call of the wild.
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  You're mentally ill, family member, Let them go. Let them go,
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  Yeah, let them go into the wood. If they if they don't
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  return, they were never yours. Fuck it is your family having a manic
• 1:16:54
  episode. Just send them into the wood. I like that should be like
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  a companion to doctor Phil of just like, listen, we're all overthinking it.
• 1:17:09
  All of your mental health concerns can be solved by releasing them into the
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  forest. I think that's a thing, and people have trauma from it.
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  But yeah, that was that was the plot of Like that was a plot
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  of Into the Wild. That was a true story. Like Emil Hirst was
• 1:17:24
  in there and then you die in the woods and then he dies and the
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  wood. Also there's like like I guess like converging ats but like also like
• 1:17:31
  camps that like people send their kids who are having like mental health crisis into
• 1:17:36
  the woods and they leave them there and then they come out and they're like,
• 1:17:40
  we have a ton of trauma from you just taking me from my house
• 1:17:43
  and telling me to live in the woods. Hey guys, this shit got
• 1:17:45
  traction. Hey guys, are you sad? Sometimes you sad about your life?
• 1:17:50
  Have you considered just walking into the forest and just lying down and just
• 1:17:56
  becoming one with the trees? Have you visited Pan Dora? What if?
• 1:18:01
  What if? Like you had the ad with that little circle guy that's depressed
• 1:18:05
  and he's hopping along, but instead of recommending an antidepressant at the end,
• 1:18:10
  it was like throw him into the forest. Yes, Okay, I want
• 1:18:15
  to stop and phrase. I know we're making jokes, but like take a
• 1:18:19
  walk in the forest, go for a hike, but don't send your friend
• 1:18:24
  who's having a crisis to just live there because they don't fit in with society.
• 1:18:30
  Well, so Quinn wasn't even like doctor Coly was like, let's let's,
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  you know, take a few let's do some breathwork, let's think about
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  this remote. She was just like, you're better off there, kid,
• 1:18:40
  I got nothing else for you, son. I took a couple of cracks
• 1:18:43
  at your depression. You're the bears problem. Now they'll raise you. Yeah,
• 1:18:53
  that's the whole show. All right, let's let's wrap this up.
• 1:18:56
  Mickey. We've we've we've probably asked this question. Now. We talked about
• 1:19:00
  this for like an hour and a half. How do you feel about being
• 1:19:02
  named after doctor Quinn medicine woman. I don't know. I have like strange
• 1:19:10
  feelings about it. I think I feel where mom was going. But it's
• 1:19:14
  a terrible show, So thanks Mom. It feels like something you're gonna have
• 1:19:18
  to make some phone calls about it. Let's be fair to a pregnant woman
• 1:19:23
  in the early nineties. I feel like she had a lot going on and
• 1:19:27
  did not think too critically about what was going on, what was happening here?
• 1:19:30
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I mean like I kind of get
• 1:19:32
  it. Like she's a female doctor and mom mom is also from Colorado.
• 1:19:38
  Yeah, so's the female doctor in Colorado who is progressive and is like,
• 1:19:44
  I'm a female doctor, listen to me. And she was having a daughter.
• 1:19:47
  So on those premises, I do understand like wanting to name me Michaela.
• 1:19:55
  Also, they just say that name a thousand times depending on which parent
• 1:19:59
  you ask. I may he may not be named after a Mel Gibson character.
• 1:20:01
  So I'm named after the bad guy from Naked Guns. So you know,
• 1:20:08
  we all have our crosses to bear. I think parents are like families,
• 1:20:13
  or like maybe our parents are just like they're just like, great,
• 1:20:15
  I'm having a kid. We need a name that one sounds good, and
• 1:20:20
  then nobody nobody calls me a Mikaela. Like they choose every one person to
• 1:20:25
  call me. They choose their kids names the way that I choose a candy
• 1:20:28
  bar at to check out stand Welcome to the world, Paid Schneiders. What
• 1:20:39
  it always is is they spend six months arguing over a name, get down
• 1:20:44
  to the wire and be like, fuck, we still have not figured it
• 1:20:45
  out and it's coming out of there. So they're just like, I don't
• 1:20:50
  know what's on television right now. All right, so doctor Gwyn medicine woman,
• 1:20:57
  I'm mad about the show. I'm mad because I wanted to give it
• 1:21:01
  a fair shot. I wanted to like, I wanted to like it.
• 1:21:03
  I would like I wanted to walk away going all right, it's fine whatever.
• 1:21:08
  Instead, I'm just pissed the the ending of the Sister Ruth is one
• 1:21:14
  of the most cowardly things I've ever seen a TV show do. And that's
• 1:21:18
  it. And I mean for the the year that it came out, though,
• 1:21:24
  like when it's happening, like what other shows were on at the time,
• 1:21:30
  that's a good question. Let me type in, like I feel like
• 1:21:33
  for its time period, it was trying. It's darnedest. I mean two,
• 1:21:39
  it was trying as hard as it could as it could on fucking uh
• 1:21:43
  on CBS, ABC or CBS. Yeah. Top Shows of nineteen ninety three,
• 1:21:50
  Top rated US TV programs of ninety ninety four Home Improvement Seinfeld. Seinfeld
• 1:21:58
  came out that year Roseanne, which was also like Roseanne was doing like okay,
• 1:22:03
  I was doing like like really progressive stuff. Actually, yeah, Grace
• 1:22:09
  under Fire, Roseanne. I was wondering about this in the ninety ninety four
• 1:22:15
  TV series Doctor Quinn Medicine Woman shows up like twenty fifth in the ratings,
• 1:22:20
  So I don't even think it was that popular. It was well behind,
• 1:22:25
  uh like Seinfeld Roseanne See if I can find Murphy Brown is probably the closest
• 1:22:31
  thing. So it was a niche group of people watch people. But like
• 1:22:38
  it grew long enough that like the niche group of people that watching Doctor Quinn
• 1:22:42
  became the people who run all of television. Now they got everything. They
• 1:22:47
  they seeded that territory and now they have entire networks of their own. So
• 1:22:54
  great cool. I think that's about. That's about gonna wrap us up here.
• 1:23:00
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• 1:23:02
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• 1:23:13
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• 1:23:18
  do you if anything you want to like plug or promote or anything.
• 1:23:25
  No, I don't plug or promote anything. That's good. My sister used
• 1:23:28
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  our our audience. You heard it here, folks, Dan, Are we
• 1:23:48
  done with our series is from now? I think we're going I think we're
• 1:23:53
  going back, going back to Mayberry. That was the thing. It's it's
• 1:23:56
  twelve twenty nine right now, and we said we'd go back to Mayberry in
• 1:23:59
  the in the new year. So next time you see us, we'll be
• 1:24:02
  back in fucking Mayberry again. Friend of Control has been a blast. So
• 1:24:06
  has backdoor Lovers. I was very skeptical of doing both at the same time,
• 1:24:11
  but it worked out really well. And let us know in our you
• 1:24:15
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• 1:24:21
  like to see us mini series next time? In the meantime, I guess
• 1:24:27
  I'll say it this time. We'll see you all down at the fishing hole,
• 1:25:00
  and I leave you