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RRR W/ Rob - Scorched Earth · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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Speaker 1: What random research ramblings with Robin, digging through the details.
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Speaker 2: That's his job.
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Speaker 1: Done, Dallas days and no reports. He breaks hit down
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Speaker 1: in friendly shouts, random research tramblins with Robin.
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Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? Welcome into some more random research ramblings
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Speaker 2: with Rob That's me aka Big bad Bob over my
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Speaker 2: shoulder there. So, look, got a lot of good feedback
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Speaker 2: from last week's episode. I think I held back a
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Speaker 2: little bit, and it is what it is. I try
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Speaker 2: not to well, sometimes scorched earth happens, and it's only
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Speaker 2: because of how I am and who I am. I
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Speaker 2: don't suffer fools lately, and that's ingrained in my gen
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Speaker 2: x DNA, and my filter is not always the greatest.
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Speaker 2: I am not politically correct, and that's okay. At least
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Speaker 2: you know where I stand from an honest point of view.
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to come on here and sugarcoat things
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Speaker 2: and lie to you and this that the other blah
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Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. Now that you know, there was
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Speaker 2: a little pushback from last Friday's episode with Paul Abbott
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Speaker 2: and you know, the whole fake Ruby and the base
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Speaker 2: shooting Oswald type of thing, and I get it, and
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Speaker 2: Paul will even acknowledge it to you know, it's sometimes
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Speaker 2: you know, you're getting into ralphson k territory, which for
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Speaker 2: those of you who have been around long enough you
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Speaker 2: will you will know that I've had my battles many
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Speaker 2: many moons ago with that dude and his whole Oswald
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Speaker 2: in the Doorway theory and one hundred and thirty six
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Speaker 2: points a match, you know, on Oswald's shirt or Love
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Speaker 2: Lady's shirt and Fetzer and that whole crew and all
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Speaker 2: that nonsense that's been going on. Now, I'm not one
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Speaker 2: to quell or quesh or squash fresh ideas when they're
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Speaker 2: coming from an honest and Paul was upfront with everything.
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Speaker 2: He's like, look, you know, I'm not saying that I
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Speaker 2: believe this, but I have questions, and that's an honest
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Speaker 2: point of view. So I wanted to have Paul on
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Speaker 2: to hear what his point of view was and what
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Speaker 2: questions did he have. And it wasn't meant to be,
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Speaker 2: you know, some kind of a trap or anything. We
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Speaker 2: love Paul here, and I don't think that we dismissed
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Speaker 2: his his his questions out of hand. And you know,
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Speaker 2: some of them might have, you know, an innocuous explanation,
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Speaker 2: you know for some of the things, you know, the hairline,
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Speaker 2: you know, the reason people didn't see him, you know, well,
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Speaker 2: you know he was a hat and suit guy. He
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Speaker 2: was just another hat and suit guy in the basement
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Speaker 2: that day that came in at the very last second.
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Speaker 2: You know, people want to point to well, I'll just
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Speaker 2: show you and this is something that didn't come up
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Speaker 2: excuse me in the episode with Paul. We didn't quite
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Speaker 2: get there. But I wanted to bring it up and
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Speaker 2: show everybody because this is another one of the arguments
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Speaker 2: put forth when they say that it wasn't Jack Ruby.
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Speaker 2: So let me show you guys this picture, all right,
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Speaker 2: And the image on the left here is this is
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Speaker 2: Jack Ruby's leg and his sock and his shoe. Okay,
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Speaker 2: now again it's a black and white image, folks, you
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Speaker 2: know it is what it is. And then we have
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Speaker 2: this image over here on the right from his full
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Speaker 2: body mugshot and his pant leg on the right there
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Speaker 2: is pulled up a little bit and I've seen it,
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Speaker 2: you know, said, oh, was Jack Ruby sending us a message?
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Speaker 2: You know that it wasn't him that shot Oswald by
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Speaker 2: pulling his pant leg up, and you see his sock
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Speaker 2: as black, and over here it's some other color like
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Speaker 2: gray or something or brown. And again, this may be
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Speaker 2: nothing more than a trick of lighting. I don't know,
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Speaker 2: and I honestly don't one hundred percent sure that these
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Speaker 2: are the same shoes that Jack Ruby was wearing. You know,
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Speaker 2: because once you go into jail, they take all your shit,
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Speaker 2: They take your clothes, they take your underwear, they take
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Speaker 2: your socks, they take your shoes, and then they give
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Speaker 2: you stuff to wear. So to me, this is proof
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Speaker 2: of nothing, you know, unless you can find me some
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Speaker 2: kind of a documentation where they didn't take somebody that
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Speaker 2: they arrested and were putting into jail, they didn't take
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Speaker 2: all their stuff, and they let them keep their shoes
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Speaker 2: in their socks. Again, these don't appear to me to
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Speaker 2: be the same shoes that he has on. They just don't.
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Speaker 2: So my guess is they took all this shit, they
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Speaker 2: gave him some jail wear, some new duds, some new socks, shoes, whatever. Uh. Again,
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Speaker 2: that's just my unprofessional opinion, you know, because at some point,
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Speaker 2: let me see you here and I'll show these to everybody.
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Speaker 2: MM hmm. This is a picture I believe it's from
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Speaker 2: the sixth floor Museum of Jack Ruby's shoes, the actual
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Speaker 2: shoes he wore while shooting guys. Waldh So again, these
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Speaker 2: are like I don't know if we call them wing
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Speaker 2: tips or what they're called. You know, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of questions. And that's okay to
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Speaker 2: have questions, you know. What I didn't want to happen
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Speaker 2: was for Paul to come on and be like, oh,
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Speaker 2: you know this, this is the theory, uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: you know, and and be adamant about it. I think
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Speaker 2: he asked good questions. He just put it. He just
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Speaker 2: put it out there. And again he's not the first
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Speaker 2: one to put it out there. All right, this theory
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Speaker 2: has been around for a long time. You know. There
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Speaker 2: are different different theories as to who the fake Jack
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Speaker 2: Ruby was. And for me to believe in this theory,
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Speaker 2: there's just too many moving parts to it. You know.
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Speaker 2: You'd have to have all the newsmen and the cops
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Speaker 2: and and Jack Ruby himself and possible even Oswald in
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Speaker 2: on the charade. You have to somehow convince Jack Ruby, hey,
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Speaker 2: you don't have to shoot him, you know, we'll take
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Speaker 2: care of that. But you're gonna be the guy that
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Speaker 2: goes to jail for the rest of your life. Okay,
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Speaker 2: sounds like a deal. I don't know. For me, it's
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Speaker 2: a bridge too far. But to each their own, you know,
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Speaker 2: everybody's got to go on their own journey and look
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Speaker 2: at the evidence and see what makes sense to them.
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Speaker 2: And also to address something that kind of exploded on
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Speaker 2: Twitter or X. Sorry, if you will, I'll share my
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Speaker 2: screen and show everybody. Okay, Now, John Duncan from the
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Speaker 2: JFK Assassination Board, all right, all I know is shit
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Speaker 2: started popping off on X and I'm like, what the
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Speaker 2: hell is going on here? And he says, the only
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Speaker 2: thing I saw from the very get go is maybe
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Speaker 2: it's our fault. We provide research for free to help others.
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Speaker 2: We stay in the background. When something we found Ruby's
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Speaker 2: Revolver not being the murder weapon of Oswald, we sure
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Speaker 2: would appreciate any acknowledgment if it's used. The longum And
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Speaker 2: podcast had Paul Abbott on and he brought this up
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Speaker 2: but failed to acknowledge where this information came from. We
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Speaker 2: acknowledge other people's research. Rob added a link to his
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Speaker 2: article in their comments section and it was deleted. That's fine,
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Speaker 2: we can do the same thing on our numerous platforms,
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Speaker 2: say La Vi Peace. So I'm like, what the fuck?
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Speaker 2: What's going on here? Right? So? I said, yo, John,
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Speaker 2: YouTube doesn't allow links to anything in the common section.
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Speaker 2: I added a link to his substack in the video
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Speaker 2: description and it's still there. I'd be happy to add
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Speaker 2: a link to your board's research on this topic and
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Speaker 2: the description as well. And then he says, not true, Rob,
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Speaker 2: We have done it many times before for your videos
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Speaker 2: and others. You goofed, We've all done that. Thanks for
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Speaker 2: the feedback. Here's a link to Rob Caprio's article. Okay,
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Speaker 2: And then Paul even jumped in. He said, apologize, apologies
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Speaker 2: for me too. I've acknowledged Rob and his article on
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Speaker 2: Ruby's revolver, the bullet and cartridge many times. We didn't
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Speaker 2: stay on this facet for too long, No disintended. It
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Speaker 2: was a far ranging conversation where many parts about the
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Speaker 2: shooting were discussed. He says, no worries. We're heard you
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Speaker 2: credit him on the board before. Thanks. What ticked Rob
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Speaker 2: off was that he added the link to the article
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Speaker 2: and it was deleted by the lone gum and podcast.
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Speaker 2: You had nothing to do with that. We are going
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Speaker 2: to promote them next but we won't. Now you're a
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Speaker 2: stand up gun appreciated. Then Ed Opperman fucking chimes in here. Oh,
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Speaker 2: give me a dollar, Ed Opperman, this is the first
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Speaker 2: time I'm hearing of this. I want to come on
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Speaker 2: my show and explain it. And then John says, no need,
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Speaker 2: It's explained in the post you're responding to. Thanks anyway,
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Speaker 2: halfhtag gfy ed and by the way, just the quick aside.
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Speaker 2: I have a problem with certain radio hosts who love
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15:51
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Speaker 2: let's go back, so right here today, Well as I'm
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Speaker 2: recording this August, the f August, the fir August the first. Okay,
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Speaker 2: So he bangs put puts out three episodes, three episodes
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Speaker 2: And trust me when I tell you this, Ed Iperman
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Speaker 2: know what I make uploading one episode a week, and
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Speaker 2: I do due to his topics and the fact that
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Speaker 2: day just about. And yet he's still manages to come
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Speaker 2: episodes too, and I could just start downloading them cleaning
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Speaker 2: the air or crisis or I'm negative. I heard him
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22:23
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22:28
Speaker 2: gonna need seventy dollars from five at least five listeners.
22:33
Speaker 2: I'm joking. I mean, you want to talk about grifters.
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Speaker 2: I saw somebody in the comments section Friday night talking
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Speaker 2: about grifters for the JFK assassination. Grifters ask for money, Okay,
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Speaker 2: back back to X. Let me get back to X,
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Speaker 2: because this confusory is not done yet, folks. All right,
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Speaker 2: So when I saw this comment, I'm like, what the
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Speaker 2: hell are you talking about? So I go back to
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Speaker 2: the Assassination Board's main thread page here and I see this.
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Speaker 2: He says, whoo, sorry, sneeze got me. He says, for
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Speaker 2: the record, here's the article about Ruby's Revolver for sixty
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Speaker 2: two years that has been assumed that it was the
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Speaker 2: murder weapon of Laho. After a long dispute with someone
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Speaker 2: who hurled insults at me, I wrote this. This is
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Speaker 2: why the Warren Commission buried the evidence. Okay, so let's
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Speaker 2: go see what it says. Okay, So we're here at
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Speaker 2: this JFK Assassination Board whatever that means. I'm guessing it's
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Speaker 2: a forum, all right. So the question of did Ruby
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Speaker 2: shoot Lahoe? The HSCA would try and look at this
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Speaker 2: issue in the seventies, let's see what they found out.
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Speaker 2: So again they talk about the possibility of shooting l
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Speaker 2: JO with a blank and then LJ being killed later on.
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Speaker 2: I do not say this definitely happened, but it is
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Speaker 2: something that should be considered in my opinion. The Warm
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Speaker 2: Commission were not allowed to examine the Ruby's revolver and
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Speaker 2: bullet that was inside LJO to see if they matched.
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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, blah blah. So they have copy and
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Speaker 2: pasted here uh pictures from the HSCA final report addressing
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Speaker 2: all of that, And here jack Arbe's trial. The whereabouts
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Speaker 2: of the expended Carter's case found and the Ruby revolver
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Speaker 2: and the bullet removed from Lear v Oswald it is
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Speaker 2: autopicy are unknown. According to William Alexander, assistant DA, the
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Speaker 2: cart's case and bullet were presented as evidence in Jackerby's trial,
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Speaker 2: their disposition by the court is unknown. M So again,
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't really call this an article. I don't know
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Speaker 2: what this is. Sounds like a bunch of questions being asked.
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Speaker 2: Here a lot of question marks at the end of
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Speaker 2: these sentences. Again, when when was this done? February tenth,
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five by Rob Caprio. You mean to tell
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Speaker 2: me that this has been up for a year and
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Speaker 2: a half and there's no no comments at all on this?
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Speaker 2: What's what kind of forum is this? H Well, maybe
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Speaker 2: maybe that's the wrong section here. Let's go back to
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Speaker 2: the main page threads and posts. Mm hmmm, I don't
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Speaker 2: even know where to go. Mum, this is not even
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Speaker 2: this is not even clickable. Are you going to threads
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Speaker 2: and posts? How do you click on it? Maybe up here?
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Speaker 2: Investigations board like guild, Jesus collection happening those on the
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Speaker 2: other boards research relating to us as off topic? I
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Speaker 2: don't know. Okay, here's something. So for the first page
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Speaker 2: of subjects here, going back to January, all of your
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Speaker 2: topics have zero comments except for one that has forty one.
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Speaker 2: That one has one, and all the rest have none.
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Speaker 2: So again, I'm not sure who all frequents this forum
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Speaker 2: or board or whatever you want to call it, or
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Speaker 2: why John's getting so pissy about things I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't quite understand. So basically I'm being accused of
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Speaker 2: the leading comments. Apparently I misspoke. YouTube does allow comments
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Speaker 2: or links in the comments section, even though I've never
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Speaker 2: and fookery. So again, before you sit here and say
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Speaker 2: and I don't need you to feature me on your
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Speaker 2: board or whatever you're talking about. You know, thanks, but
31:17
Speaker 2: no thanks, Okay, if this is how you treat people,
31:22
Speaker 2: I'm good. I don't need your help. But so that's that. Now,
31:36
Speaker 2: this whole thing with Paul Blow last week and these
31:43
Speaker 2: forms and all this and that. So, as most of
31:51
Speaker 2: you know, Andrew Eiler recently became the proprietor and administrator
31:59
Speaker 2: over the Edge for he is trying to revamp it.
32:05
Speaker 2: He did get it back online, and not directly, but
32:11
Speaker 2: to Joe He's they he wanted to have a conversation
32:18
Speaker 2: about suggestions, you know, to make the ed form a
32:21
Speaker 2: better place to go. Now, this conversation never ended up
32:25
Speaker 2: taking place. Probably Joe dropped the ball at some point
32:28
Speaker 2: somewhere along the line, be my guest. But Andrew reached
32:34
Speaker 2: out and email me, and it was nice enough to
32:37
Speaker 2: ask me. You know, he said, you'd like to put
32:40
Speaker 2: a link up to the podcast and everything on the forum,
32:43
Speaker 2: which is cool with me. And if we talked about
32:48
Speaker 2: anything relevant over on the form, put a link to
32:52
Speaker 2: it there. You know, I got no problem doing that. Great.
32:56
Speaker 2: That's what you call the Mutual Admiration Society, Okay, because
33:02
Speaker 2: I like Andrew and Mark and I think they're doing
33:05
Speaker 2: important work in the case trying to get things declassified
33:11
Speaker 2: and put out there and hold the government accountable and
33:15
Speaker 2: all of that. So I'm good with all this, right,
33:19
Speaker 2: I'm good with all this. And I was talking to
33:25
Speaker 2: Doug about this a little earlier, and I'm not going
33:30
Speaker 2: to speak for Doug, but I can say we're pretty
33:32
Speaker 2: much on the same page when it comes to the
33:34
Speaker 2: ed form. And for those of you who frequent the
33:39
Speaker 2: ed form, you'll notice that you rarely ever see me
33:47
Speaker 2: on the ed form. Now there's a reason for that.
33:55
Speaker 2: There is a reason for that, and it applies to
34:06
Speaker 2: Facebook groups as well. All right, So the ed forum
34:11
Speaker 2: is like the original og Facebook group about JFK. All right,
34:19
Speaker 2: And once upon a time, many many moons ago, before
34:24
Speaker 2: Facebook groups were a thing. You know, forums were a thing,
34:31
Speaker 2: a place where people like mighty people could go to
34:33
Speaker 2: discuss different aspects of the case, to share research, present research,
34:38
Speaker 2: a critique, research, all of that stuff. It served its purpose,
34:44
Speaker 2: I get it. But now there's literally probably three hundred
34:50
Speaker 2: ed forms on Facebook in the form of Facebook groups
34:55
Speaker 2: that are topiced around the JFK assassination. Now, the quality
35:01
Speaker 2: and caliber of the individuals participating in said groups aren't
35:12
Speaker 2: don't always stack up to the kind of folks that
35:18
Speaker 2: you might see over on the education form, or at
35:21
Speaker 2: least the kind of folks that you used to see
35:24
Speaker 2: over on the education form. There's been a lot of
35:27
Speaker 2: great researchers that have been sadly passed passed away, people
35:41
Speaker 2: that just lost interest in the topic, that were once
35:47
Speaker 2: very heavily into it. You know, you might have some
35:53
Speaker 2: very respected authors over there. You know, a lot of
36:02
Speaker 2: big swinging dicks in the community used to come here
36:06
Speaker 2: and debate topics in the JFK assassination. The search function
36:20
Speaker 2: in here is an asset, and I believe that I
36:26
Speaker 2: even mentioned this in my how to become a better researcher.
36:29
Speaker 2: You know, if you want to search a topic, you know,
36:34
Speaker 2: like Buell Fraser, you don't need to start another thread, okay,
36:41
Speaker 2: because there's probably already fifty threads on the ed form
36:46
Speaker 2: about Buell Fraser, and just about every aspect of anything
36:51
Speaker 2: happen to do with Buell Fraser's probably been discussed or
36:54
Speaker 2: presented or theorized on in this form before. So utilize
37:01
Speaker 2: the search function, folks. You know, you can still hop
37:05
Speaker 2: on a thread from fifteen years ago and ask questions
37:10
Speaker 2: or add to it, and it bumps it up to
37:12
Speaker 2: the top of the list. Now, part of the thing
37:18
Speaker 2: when Andrew got this thing is he wanted to kind
37:20
Speaker 2: of not necessarily revamp everything, but maybe how we could
37:28
Speaker 2: make it better. Well, you know, I don't have the
37:35
Speaker 2: answer to that question, and it doesn't necessarily behoove me
37:43
Speaker 2: anymore to drop into a thread at the ad form
37:49
Speaker 2: or on Facebook or any other form or board or
37:52
Speaker 2: whatever anymore and debate people. Okay, I don't need to
37:57
Speaker 2: do that anymore. I'd like to think that at one time,
38:01
Speaker 2: when I was trying to prove myself or trying to
38:07
Speaker 2: gain some traction and be respected in this community, there
38:11
Speaker 2: was a point in time where I did this kind
38:12
Speaker 2: of stuff. Now I just I don't care. I've been
38:18
Speaker 2: around this case for thirty five years. I've read a
38:22
Speaker 2: lot of books, I've read a lot of papers. I've
38:25
Speaker 2: watched a lot of documentaries, watched a lot of movies.
38:28
Speaker 2: I've done a lot of document based research over the
38:31
Speaker 2: years and expanded my knowledge to the fact or to
38:37
Speaker 2: the point to where I think I've got a pretty
38:39
Speaker 2: good grasp on I won't say all aspects, but most
38:45
Speaker 2: aspects of the JFK assassination and how it went down
38:49
Speaker 2: and everybody involved, the players to this, to that you
38:53
Speaker 2: know whatever. I don't need to go in here and
38:58
Speaker 2: debate people. Okay, Now I've got several ideas, no, not
39:08
Speaker 2: really ideas, but suggestions for making the ed form a
39:14
Speaker 2: better place. And the first one would be, let me, uh,
39:22
Speaker 2: let me share my screen so I can show you
39:23
Speaker 2: guys what I'm talking about here. All right, here we
39:33
Speaker 2: are at the ed form. Yet you can see me
39:35
Speaker 2: right there. I am logged in under my account. This
39:37
Speaker 2: is me, okay, right here, all right, and we have
39:50
Speaker 2: some pinned some pin things up here, all right, which
39:56
Speaker 2: is all good and all fine, and then we start
40:04
Speaker 2: the topics here all right. Now, one suggestion I would have,
40:12
Speaker 2: because I see it on here a bit too often
40:17
Speaker 2: when I do poke my head in the door and
40:20
Speaker 2: try to see what's going on in here, maybe get
40:24
Speaker 2: some show ideas or something like that. All right, but
40:28
Speaker 2: here we got the top two. We're still talking about
40:30
Speaker 2: the Typic case. I mean, seriously, we're still talking about
40:38
Speaker 2: the Typic Case, A new book. Paul's article we talked
40:47
Speaker 2: about last week. So let's dive into Paul's article from
40:53
Speaker 2: last week. And I just want to show everybody something
40:56
Speaker 2: that was pointed out to me. So if we fast
40:59
Speaker 2: forward to the fifth page of the discussion here about
41:02
Speaker 2: Paul's article, and I scrolled down here, things like this
41:14
Speaker 2: they just get dropped. Oh, and the FBI guy running
41:18
Speaker 2: Rodriguez happens to be debrues things that make you go hmm. Now,
41:23
Speaker 2: I know Paul is a new member here, but it's
41:29
Speaker 2: things like that that you might want to drop some
41:33
Speaker 2: uh documentation on Paul. You know, you just can't throw
41:38
Speaker 2: shit like this out without something, right. I mean, that's
41:46
Speaker 2: a big accusation saying our nestary Rodriguez or the debris
41:52
Speaker 2: was running Rodriguez, all right, whatever that means. Okay. So
42:02
Speaker 2: then we get through this page five and let's go
42:04
Speaker 2: to page six. So here things start to go a
42:13
Speaker 2: little sideways. So now we got Joseph McBride jumping in
42:20
Speaker 2: the fray telling stories about his father meeting Kennedy in
42:24
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty two. Now what this has to do with
42:27
Speaker 2: the thread topic, I don't know, other than hey, look
42:34
Speaker 2: at me, look at me, Look what my dad did.
42:36
Speaker 2: I was there. Oh, fascinating story, Joe McBride. Yeah, And
42:44
Speaker 2: then of course the DVP len A. Nutter, David von
42:48
Speaker 2: Pene's got to jump in here and you know, he's
42:50
Speaker 2: got a vast library of master video indexes, JFK speeches pages,
42:57
Speaker 2: and you know, I think I've got a a video
43:01
Speaker 2: of that day that you're talking about, May twelve sixty two,
43:03
Speaker 2: the Speeche game. And so the thread is hijacked at
43:08
Speaker 2: this point and devolves into something totally off topic. Oh,
43:16
Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe saying happy birthday a week after this speech.
43:19
Speaker 2: Who gives a shit? There's the speech. Okay, Now the
43:29
Speaker 2: last page here, this guy Joe Bauer. He wants to
43:39
Speaker 2: ask Joe McBride who the chick was that played the
43:44
Speaker 2: bimbo in Red when John Candy said, hey piped the
43:47
Speaker 2: bimbo in Red from the movie JFK. And then this
43:56
Speaker 2: one jumps in. At this point, I consider the movie
43:59
Speaker 2: JFK cover up with a lot of rabbit trails, so
44:02
Speaker 2: too for another Stone movie, The Doors. Now this post here,
44:08
Speaker 2: Andrew Eiler, I would say, is a problem to allow
44:12
Speaker 2: people to have this much information about themselves be visible
44:22
Speaker 2: when they make a comment. So every time this woman comments,
44:28
Speaker 2: it takes up an entire computer screen of stuff with
44:34
Speaker 2: all these different links, and even her Spotify to her music. Okay,
44:40
Speaker 2: I'll even know what this is. Let's listen, Okay, what
45:05
Speaker 2: what in the sam hell? Yeah? So then it devolves
45:13
Speaker 2: from who is the chicken red? Now Oliver Stone made
45:17
Speaker 2: a cover up movie blah blah blah blah blah blah
45:20
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, so much that Paul Blow is even
45:24
Speaker 2: hijacking his own thread by asking chat GPT who the
45:27
Speaker 2: woman is and chat GPT doesn't know, and then Andrew
45:36
Speaker 2: the administrator, instead of course correcting the thread, jumps in
45:42
Speaker 2: with an answer, uh you know. But okay, Now, my
45:50
Speaker 2: point in all of this is this forum needs heavy,
46:03
Speaker 2: heavy moderation. It's not a one man job. It's not
46:08
Speaker 2: even a two man job or three man job, four
46:11
Speaker 2: man job. These threads need to be kept on topic.
46:19
Speaker 2: There's two pages of wandering in this thread that make
46:25
Speaker 2: no sense whatsoever. Now let's keep going down here. Why
46:38
Speaker 2: do members research the JFK assassination by John Simpkin? Who cares?
46:45
Speaker 2: That's just a dumb topic. And when I see this,
46:50
Speaker 2: anything that mentions Donald Trump or any other president other
46:54
Speaker 2: than JFK needs to go somewhere else out of this
47:02
Speaker 2: JFK assassination forum section. Yeah, there's the caveat back here
47:08
Speaker 2: of the JFK assassination. But Donald Trump doesn't have the
47:11
Speaker 2: ship to do with the JFK assassination other than the
47:13
Speaker 2: fact that he mandated that some files get released. And
47:18
Speaker 2: that's about the extent of it. Okay, anything that mentions Trump, Biden,
47:26
Speaker 2: any any any political thing that doesn't have nothing to
47:32
Speaker 2: do with the JFK assassination should not be allowed to
47:35
Speaker 2: be topicked. And then down here this last one by
47:42
Speaker 2: Don Jefferies, Zionism, the thread that connects everything. This, this,
47:49
Speaker 2: this ship should not be allowed on here whatsoever. I mean,
47:56
Speaker 2: this is just posted so everybody starts losing their fucking minds.
48:03
Speaker 2: And as you can see, there's twenty eight pages. Everybody's
48:06
Speaker 2: lost their minds because of this thread. JFK versus Trump,
48:16
Speaker 2: when Iran. That shouldn't be here, Jeffrey Epstein files shouldn't
48:20
Speaker 2: be here. I don't even know what book that's referencing. Oh,
48:28
Speaker 2: the Housewives Underground? Um interesting? Nebrosco White reader William McIntyre
48:49
Speaker 2: unacknowledged that sounds like some UFO bullshit. Um so yeah,
48:58
Speaker 2: I mean I would I would say one thing that
49:03
Speaker 2: needs to be done is heavy moderation and wipe the
49:08
Speaker 2: slate clean. There's a lot of good researchers out there
49:11
Speaker 2: that have been banned from this forum for stupid reasons, because,
49:18
Speaker 2: like me, you know, if you get attacked for posting
49:24
Speaker 2: your theories incessantly and oh, you know, you call somebody
49:29
Speaker 2: a fucking idiot or uh, you know, sea sucker, whatever
49:34
Speaker 2: the case may be, and you get banned. I mean,
49:38
Speaker 2: there's a lot of good research searches out there that
49:40
Speaker 2: have been banned from from from this forum, including Bart Camp, who,
49:46
Speaker 2: like me, has no filter and he has no tolerance
49:51
Speaker 2: for bullshit. You know, It's one thing to debate the
49:55
Speaker 2: facts and things of the case, and when things start
49:57
Speaker 2: turning into personal attacks and you know, just troll behavior,
50:04
Speaker 2: you know, things get out of hand, and I would
50:08
Speaker 2: say wipe the slate clean and be more judicial about
50:13
Speaker 2: who you let in here. Because there are some people
50:19
Speaker 2: who have been rightly banned from this forum, like ralphson K,
50:24
Speaker 2: like Jim Fetzer, people of that ilk who just incessantly
50:31
Speaker 2: post debunked nonsense horseshit, And I get that, But for
50:41
Speaker 2: other folks, I think, you know, it may be time
50:45
Speaker 2: to open the door back up. You know, that's just
50:48
Speaker 2: my two cents. Other than that, I don't know really
50:58
Speaker 2: what you could do. I do like the ignore function
51:06
Speaker 2: added here. That's pretty cool. So, like, you know, if
51:12
Speaker 2: I didn't want to see anything that Jim D. Genio
51:14
Speaker 2: wrote or said or anything, I could just highlight his
51:18
Speaker 2: name here and go down here and click the ignore button.
51:24
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna do that, but I could if
51:28
Speaker 2: I wanted to, which is cool. You know, that's a
51:30
Speaker 2: good that's a good little trick. But other than that, honestly,
51:38
Speaker 2: I don't have any advice for you. I don't know
51:41
Speaker 2: how to make a forum better because I don't really
51:44
Speaker 2: participate in them anymore other than as a research tool.
51:49
Speaker 2: Sometimes not all the time. Sometimes it gets very laborious
51:57
Speaker 2: to pour through threads and pages and multiple pages and threads,
52:03
Speaker 2: and something you might do and I don't know if
52:07
Speaker 2: it's possible, but limit the number of pages uh per thread.
52:15
Speaker 2: And then and there's there's certain things too about limiting
52:17
Speaker 2: the size of the media that you can upload to
52:19
Speaker 2: a post, and this and that, and I'm not not
52:23
Speaker 2: really a fan of that. And again, a lot of
52:30
Speaker 2: this stuff goes way way back, you know, and a
52:33
Speaker 2: lot of the older stuff things have been lost, links
52:37
Speaker 2: don't work anymore. Image image files that were hosted somewhere
52:41
Speaker 2: else because you couldn't actually post the image here because
52:43
Speaker 2: it was too big. That's a problem because people that
52:48
Speaker 2: were hosting images on like mger or whatever. Uh, you know,
52:54
Speaker 2: those sites have died, those links go away, and those
52:57
Speaker 2: images are lost forever. And and you know, like a
53:01
Speaker 2: lot of James Richard's images that he uploaded to this
53:03
Speaker 2: former are lost forever unless somebody grabbed him and held
53:09
Speaker 2: on to him. He had some really good ones that
53:12
Speaker 2: nobody nobody else had, and not being able to upload
53:17
Speaker 2: them to the site and only have them want a
53:19
Speaker 2: hosted other you know, a link to a hosted site
53:23
Speaker 2: was a problem. But you know, other than that, I
53:29
Speaker 2: just don't know. To me, I look at participating in
53:35
Speaker 2: forums as an unnecessary activity at this point in my
53:46
Speaker 2: research journey. Now for some folks, I think it's good
53:51
Speaker 2: if you're just starting out and you want to see
53:55
Speaker 2: what folks are talking about, how folks talk about things,
53:59
Speaker 2: what kind of thing are put forth, you know, to
54:02
Speaker 2: go ahead and jump in a forum or a Facebook group,
54:06
Speaker 2: and you know you'll you'll learn real quick how things
54:10
Speaker 2: kind of go. But I think a lot of the
54:13
Speaker 2: more important folks have died off or just don't bother
54:18
Speaker 2: with these forms anymore because it just turns into a
54:21
Speaker 2: pissing contest. Oh, by the way, I would also add
54:25
Speaker 2: this caveat. I would not let anyone in that is
54:28
Speaker 2: a lone nutter. It serves no purpose whatsoever. All they
54:38
Speaker 2: do is poo pooh, And you know, I just wouldn't
54:43
Speaker 2: let any of them in. I would tell you know, hey,
54:46
Speaker 2: y'all go start your own forum, all right, and y'all
54:51
Speaker 2: can post whatever you want over there and talk about
54:53
Speaker 2: whatever you want over there, and critique whoever you want
54:55
Speaker 2: over there, and poo poo whoever you want over there.
54:59
Speaker 2: But here, we're all obviously here because we believe that
55:04
Speaker 2: there was a conspiracy. Now we don't all agree on
55:07
Speaker 2: what kind of conspiracy or who was behind it or whatever,
55:11
Speaker 2: but there's a lot more to discuss on that side
55:14
Speaker 2: of things than somebody that just says, no, no Oswald
55:18
Speaker 2: did it. Here's the proof. Okay, we've been hearing that
55:21
Speaker 2: shit for sixty three years and we're still arguing about it.
55:26
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, So I would I would also
55:30
Speaker 2: not let any loan nutters into this, and if they
55:34
Speaker 2: were to out themselves as a loan nutter, they get banned,
55:38
Speaker 2: and trust me, it wouldn't be too hard to figure
55:40
Speaker 2: it out once they start talking. But I would also
55:46
Speaker 2: limit the amount of posts per person that somebody can
55:53
Speaker 2: make because a lot of times I'm seeing the same
55:57
Speaker 2: names on here after day after day, and when you
56:01
Speaker 2: only have ten active members who post topics two or
56:07
Speaker 2: three times a week, I would limit posting at least
56:11
Speaker 2: the new topics to maybe twice a month. You get
56:17
Speaker 2: two new topics a month. You could comment as much
56:19
Speaker 2: as you want on other folks topics, but at least
56:23
Speaker 2: that doesn't let somebody hijack the direction of the forum
56:33
Speaker 2: and just incessantly post things. Maybe they'll be a little
56:37
Speaker 2: bit more judicious about what they are posting when they
56:40
Speaker 2: only have two to use a month. Again, just a recommendation.
56:46
Speaker 2: What the hell do I know? But uh yeah, I mean,
56:51
Speaker 2: like I said, I don't have all the answers. I'm
56:54
Speaker 2: probably the last one to ask, and everybody's got an opinion,
56:59
Speaker 2: you know, and that's just mine and mindtainting because I
57:05
Speaker 2: have my own form right here twice three times a week,
57:10
Speaker 2: basically four times a week. Whatever you want to call
57:12
Speaker 2: it to say whatever I want, and people can tune
57:17
Speaker 2: in or not. Thankfully, people are tuning in. They're digging
57:21
Speaker 2: what I'm doing, They're digging what we're doing here, they're
57:25
Speaker 2: digging how we do it here. People are listening. People
57:30
Speaker 2: respect us, even though they won't come out and say it.
57:38
Speaker 2: People listen because we're over here doing shit the right way.
57:46
Speaker 2: We're doing it live on demand. We go deep document
57:51
Speaker 2: based research on a weekly basis. When I go on
57:56
Speaker 2: in sitting here and just pontificating about James Files for
58:01
Speaker 2: an hour, if we are talking about James Files, we're
58:04
Speaker 2: going to have documents. What documents there is, We're going
58:09
Speaker 2: to have, you know, either supporting or unsupporting arguments, circumstantial evidence,
58:19
Speaker 2: things like this. It's not just some scuffusery show we
58:26
Speaker 2: do here. People dig it, and you know, look, I
58:34
Speaker 2: know what it feels like to be overlooked. Okay, I
58:41
Speaker 2: think people overlook this show because of a the title Okay,
58:48
Speaker 2: the Lone Guming Podcast. They think I'm a lone nutter
58:52
Speaker 2: till they take time to listen. Then they don't like
58:54
Speaker 2: my approach. They think I'm abrasive, they think I'm not
58:58
Speaker 2: politically correct. They don't appreciate my humor, my disgusting or
59:05
Speaker 2: dark humor, whatever you want to call it. I'm just
59:08
Speaker 2: a real person. I'm not some stuck up academic lawyer, doctor,
59:14
Speaker 2: want to be teacher, professor, whatever. Okay, And all those
59:22
Speaker 2: guys are entitled to their opinion as well, just like
59:25
Speaker 2: I am. And I've got something to say and I'll
59:31
Speaker 2: say it. And some of them people have something to
59:35
Speaker 2: say too. That's why they hop on every JFK related
59:38
Speaker 2: podcast except this one, because they know that we will
59:46
Speaker 2: call them out on their bullshit. All right. It's one
59:50
Speaker 2: thing to have Jim Dugenio come on your show because
59:53
Speaker 2: he can bring you, or Jefferson Morley because they can
59:56
Speaker 2: bring you seven to ten thousand views, because they just
1:00:00
Speaker 2: have that power. For whatever reason, people love listening to them.
1:00:05
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but people love listening to them,
1:00:10
Speaker 2: and they bring the views. If I was interested in
1:00:12
Speaker 2: just getting views, and and Aora farming and and and
1:00:18
Speaker 2: clout chasing, that's who you would see on my show.
1:00:23
Speaker 2: You've seen them on all the other ones, not this
1:00:27
Speaker 2: One's the reason. There's a reason for that, because you know,
1:00:32
Speaker 2: I'm not just gonna bring somebody on here, wind them
1:00:35
Speaker 2: up and let them go. No no, no no no
1:00:39
Speaker 2: no no no no no, sorry, that's not gonna happen here.
1:00:45
Speaker 2: We've been very critical of people like that and their research,
1:00:50
Speaker 2: and we've put it out there without blowback. H pardon
1:00:57
Speaker 2: the pun. So it is what it is, you know,
1:01:05
Speaker 2: and the offers out there, the offers out there. So
1:01:18
Speaker 2: that's just my two cents on everything. That's my recommendations
1:01:24
Speaker 2: for the forums. I don't know what this guy's tripping
1:01:26
Speaker 2: about on acts saying I'm deleting comments or whatever whatever,
1:01:31
Speaker 2: you know. I don't delete comments unless they're just vile,
1:01:38
Speaker 2: nasty ascoholic comments, you know, but even like some of
1:01:48
Speaker 2: the ones that aren't very favorable to me, I will
1:01:51
Speaker 2: leave up. I don't care. Like there was comments in
1:01:55
Speaker 2: the chat friday night that I wasn't even aware of
1:01:58
Speaker 2: until he got off there and then Joe something, He's like,
1:02:00
Speaker 2: why is that guy saying all that shit about you?
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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know what you're talking about?
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Speaker 2: What until we went back and looked at the comment
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Speaker 2: for shit, I don't know and the truth will set
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Speaker 2: you free. I don't know what why he was saying
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Speaker 2: that he's been in the comments section before never attacked
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Speaker 2: me like that. I don't know what his problem was,
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Speaker 2: but I didn't delete his comments. I mean, they have
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Speaker 2: to be like very, very vile, nasty ass comments. I'm
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Speaker 2: a big believer in free speech. Until you you know
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Speaker 2: you want to cross that line, I will kick you
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Speaker 2: in the nuts. But for the most part, I'll let
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Speaker 2: you say what you want to say because I know
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Speaker 2: the feeling. Anyway. That's my random research ramblings with Rob
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Speaker 2: for this week. Thanks for tuning in, thanks for hanging
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Speaker 2: with me, thanks for supporting the show, Thanks for supporting me,
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Speaker 2: and we'll see you next time, folks. Until then, it's
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Speaker 2: your boy peace.
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Speaker 1: Christians one by one, talking out the tame Man sun
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Speaker 1: stand Bay.
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Speaker 2: Let me
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Speaker 1: Brand Research ram Base