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Inside The Birds Week 8 Pregame Show With Greg Cosell: Philadelphia Eagles vs. New York Giants · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to the Inside the Birds pre game show.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Mosher alongside Adam Kaplan of course, to help
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  Speaker 1: us break down the tape of both opponents, and the
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  Speaker 1: game is Greg Cosel And folks, it's Week eight. It's
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  Speaker 1: a rematch. And this might sound hard for some people
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  Speaker 1: to believe, but the Eagles are trying to even the
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  Speaker 1: score after losing to the Giants, and not just losing
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  Speaker 1: in Week six, but getting pounded thirty four to seventeen. However, Adam,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, and Greg knows this too. Probably, the
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  Speaker 1: Giants have not won in Philadelphia at the Link since
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and thirteen. That is a long streak, crazy
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  Speaker 1: they are looking to break. Both teams are coming in
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  Speaker 1: off of interesting games. The Eagles obviously five and two
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  Speaker 1: after they beat the Minnesota Vikings last Sunday. The Giants
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  Speaker 1: played perhaps the strangest game you will ever see in
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  Speaker 1: NFL history against the Denver Broncos last week, and they
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  Speaker 1: were up big going into the fourth quarter and then
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  Speaker 1: it all slipped away in a historic loss. Greg, did
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  Speaker 1: you actually watch the tape of that game?
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious the Giants Broncos game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, okay, just making sure, just make it sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, not every day.
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  Speaker 2: There were too many plays. There were too many plays
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  Speaker 2: on both sides. It took a long time, I bet.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not every day that a team is
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  Speaker 1: up nineteen to nothing in the fourth quarter and loses
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  Speaker 1: thirty two to thirty three. In fact, I think I
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  Speaker 1: read it was the first time in over one thousand
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  Speaker 1: and sixty games that that team had lost that kind
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  Speaker 1: of a lead.
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  Speaker 3: On you know, it was.
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  Speaker 2: That was a very odd game because I got you know,
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  Speaker 2: I knew I was going to be asked all week, well,
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  Speaker 2: like what happened, and it's not like one thing happened.
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  Speaker 2: You know, those are the kinds of things because people want,
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  Speaker 2: you know, an easy answer, Oh well this happened, and
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  Speaker 2: therefore they lost.
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  Speaker 3: You know. But yeah, it was a very strange game.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I think Adam and I were discussing this.
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  Speaker 1: There were like three ricochet catches in that game, catches
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  Speaker 1: that bounced off one guy right the other guy. And
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  Speaker 1: even one of the fighting moments of the game for
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos, Knicks throws a pass that's not intended for
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  Speaker 1: his receiver someton, but Mims catches it, and it winds.
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  Speaker 2: Up setting up that all right, because that was dagger
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  Speaker 2: and he was throwing the ball to Sutton on the
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  Speaker 2: dig and Mims inexplicably stopped on his vertical route because
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  Speaker 2: he's supposed to keep going to lift the coverage, and
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  Speaker 2: he stopped right And I don't know why he stopped,
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  Speaker 2: because he was one hundred percent wrong, and all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden he just turned around, which he shouldn't have,
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  Speaker 2: and the ball hit him be you know, between the numbers.
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  Speaker 2: But he was throwing the dig ball to Sutton.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. But Greg, I would ask you on that game
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  Speaker 3: what the Broncos offense the first three course? Was it
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  Speaker 3: anything that he could just play that great? Or what
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  Speaker 3: was the problem?
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  Speaker 2: From a macro perspective, there were two things that stood
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  Speaker 2: out to me. Number One, on the Giants defensive front
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  Speaker 2: was dominating.
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  Speaker 3: That stood out.
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  Speaker 2: And the second thing is the Broncos pass game was
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  Speaker 2: very condensed and very limited. Now, maybe that was a
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  Speaker 2: function of their old line getting handled, or maybe it
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  Speaker 2: was just the way it played out. But I mean
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  Speaker 2: through three quarters, and I'm doing this out of memory.
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  Speaker 2: I could easily pull up my notes, but I think
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  Speaker 2: through three quarters, Nicks was eleven for twenty five for
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and five yards, and he had one thirty
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  Speaker 2: two yard completion, so he had ten other completions for
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  Speaker 2: seventy three yards. So it was really condensed and limited,
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  Speaker 2: and they couldn't run the football. The first good runs
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  Speaker 2: really occurred late in the third quarter.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, hey, look, both teams are coming off
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  Speaker 1: odd games and there's a lot to unpack with this
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  Speaker 1: game coming up that is very important for both teams.
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  Speaker 1: Let us get into the injury situation because it is
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  Speaker 1: not very good for the Philadelphia Eagles. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that there was throughout the week some momentum, some optimism
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  Speaker 1: about AJ Brown even though he was sidelined with the hamstring,
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  Speaker 1: about Brandon Graham possibly returning. But Adam, the news is
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  Speaker 1: all bad. The Eagles are gonna be without several starters.
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  Speaker 1: AJ Brown out with the hamstring, adri Jackson out with
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  Speaker 1: the concussion, Cam Jurgens out with the knee injury, and
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  Speaker 1: of course dis He's ogual already with the hamstring, and
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  Speaker 1: again no Brandon Graham. He will not be ready to
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  Speaker 1: play against the Giants. This is of all these injuries
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  Speaker 1: where players not to play. I think you know you
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  Speaker 1: look at AJ Brown and man, the Eagles track record
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  Speaker 1: of playing without a J. Brown is not good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, now the issue is, okay, well, how do they
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  Speaker 3: approach us? Because that leaves some four healthy receivers. I
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  Speaker 3: guess the good news it's a very minor. But the
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  Speaker 3: guy might play. I mean he's cleared. Is Darius Cooper
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  Speaker 3: is clear to play? So now they all transactions for
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  Speaker 3: Sunday games have to be done by four pm Eastern
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday. So if you're watching this on Saturday, here
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  Speaker 3: Darres Cooper might be brought up. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: he blocks pretty well for the run game. That's one
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  Speaker 3: of the things we we we thought was interesting with him.
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  Speaker 3: He he's shown he can do that, and boy, they
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  Speaker 3: could use that for the run game. But look, you
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  Speaker 3: know that it's gonna be at DeVante Smith and then
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  Speaker 3: Johan Dawson to round this off. Whatever's going to look
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  Speaker 3: like it's Dodson, it's Smith, John Matchi who dressed but
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  Speaker 3: didn't play. He obviously will play this week. Now they
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  Speaker 3: also can use Avier Gibson we saw as a kickoff
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  Speaker 3: returner who is by trade a receiver. Then they got
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  Speaker 3: to have five to me it means they have there
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  Speaker 3: three guys on the practice squad. It's Quest Watkins who
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  Speaker 3: just got back. He's back, but not most people. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't even know that he's back. Yep, it's Terras Marshall
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  Speaker 3: who's healthy. He had a good offseason. And Britain Covey
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  Speaker 3: is really a put returner, slat returner, it's a slap receiver.
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  Speaker 3: So Terras Marshall, Jeff as they sent him back to
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  Speaker 3: you would make the most sense, Greg.
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  Speaker 1: What do teams typically do and doesn't have to be
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles just I'm sure you see it when they
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  Speaker 1: lose an extra and don't really have a natural X.
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  Speaker 1: Do they do something formational? Is it more reduced splits?
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  Speaker 1: What would you sort of hy suspect for a team.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I would expect you'd see less three by
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  Speaker 2: one sets simply because you don't have that guy who
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  Speaker 2: you feel can win one on one that you know
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  Speaker 2: you can go to. You know, if you take a
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  Speaker 2: peek to the trip side and you just don't like
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  Speaker 2: what you see, you always feel that you can go
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  Speaker 2: to your ex receiver and feel pretty comfortable about it.
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  Speaker 2: You see that all the time, you know in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: But they don't have that guy now, although it wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: surprise me if they put the vun To Smith out
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  Speaker 2: there at times. You know, he's the body type is
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  Speaker 2: such that you don't view him that way. But he
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  Speaker 2: can win one on one. We've seen that many many times.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he was the X receiver on the long
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  Speaker 2: touchdown too that he caught this week. I mean obviously
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  Speaker 2: they got a specific look that they anticipated and there
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  Speaker 2: was no help. But the point is he turned Isaiah
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  Speaker 2: Rogers right around because he's such a good rout runner.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if they put him
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  Speaker 2: out there at times.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff also Goddard has played. He's probably played a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of X.
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  Speaker 2: I would think, yeah, yeah, they could line up and
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  Speaker 2: we won by three sets.
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  Speaker 3: Where the tight end is the X.
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  Speaker 1: Right got a couple of times a game, you don't.
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  Speaker 1: That's not going to become a base offense, right. So
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles will have to get creative here. They will
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  Speaker 1: have to figure out A who they want to elevate
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  Speaker 1: because they will need depth. B. They'll have to figure
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  Speaker 1: out ken Darius Cooper play and would they even expect
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  Speaker 1: him to make a contribution and see what for the
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  Speaker 1: most part, they have to have a base offensive philosophy
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  Speaker 1: for this game. And what does that entail for who's
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  Speaker 1: going to play X and how much? I mean, those
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  Speaker 1: are three pertinent questions going in.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I have a question and you are probably going
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  Speaker 2: to get to the injuries that I wait till you
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  Speaker 2: get to the injuries to ask my question.
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  Speaker 1: Right now.
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  Speaker 2: My question was going to be, is Javon Holland out?
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  Speaker 1: He's all Giants injuries.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a neck injury. He's not expected to play.
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  Speaker 2: Because the Giants are a big dime team and when
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  Speaker 2: he got hurt last week, after about twenty snaps, they
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  Speaker 2: didn't play any dime And that's a big deal for
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  Speaker 2: them because they're a big dime team. Because Belton is
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  Speaker 2: the guy who replaced him at safety and he's their
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  Speaker 2: dime and he's kind of a movable chess piece. But
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  Speaker 2: now he had to play safety last week because Holland
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  Speaker 2: was out. So my guess is he's the guy that
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  Speaker 2: will replace Holland and that limits what they do. You know,
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  Speaker 2: as I said, now they have a week to prepare,
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  Speaker 2: so maybe they have another player they're gonna put in
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  Speaker 2: and still play dime. I don't know that, but Belton
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be the safety in Holland spot was soon.
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  Speaker 1: All right, interesting, all right, we'll get to giants, injuries,
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  Speaker 1: all the rest of them in a second. Just on
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  Speaker 1: the good news standpoint for the Eagles, Jeremiah Trotter Junior
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  Speaker 1: had an angle injury. Well, he practice fully on Friday.
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  Speaker 1: He's expected to play. He has no injury designation, and
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  Speaker 1: neither does Grant Calcaterra. He'll be back from the oblique injury.
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  Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson good news, full participation in practice, no injury designation,
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  Speaker 1: and same thing for Dallas Goddard and Moro Ajoemo all
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  Speaker 1: expected to play.
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  Speaker 3: Noe.
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  Speaker 2: Who's going to start at center?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that is the question. And if we're going by
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  Speaker 1: how they practiced in front of the media, and I
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  Speaker 1: know sometimes people think this, but it's usually not true.
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  Speaker 1: They don't do something for ten minutes and then completely
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  Speaker 1: change it up once everybody goes away. So it looks
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  Speaker 1: like Brett Toath will start at center and Landon Dickerson
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  Speaker 1: will start at left guard. Now do I think during
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  Speaker 1: this is just my suspecting note, knowing how the teams operate.
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  Speaker 1: Do I think the contingency plan is to maybe flip
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  Speaker 1: him if they have to, or play Dickerson at center
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  Speaker 1: if everything is failing. Yeah, I would imagine that that's
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  Speaker 1: a consideration.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess extra Lawrence will be lining up on
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  Speaker 2: top once or twice a week.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he will be.
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  Speaker 3: He will be one thing we could see in the
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  Speaker 3: future because they just got him back and he worked
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  Speaker 3: this week in practice. Sua Petta, who could play both
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  Speaker 3: right and left guard. If down the line, if Jurggens
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  Speaker 3: is out of extended time for whatever reason, not just injury,
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  Speaker 3: if he gets hurt again, has back problems, which we
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  Speaker 3: know I had the surgery, would not surprise me if
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  Speaker 3: they would eventually move sue A Peta up to the
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  Speaker 3: fifty three and start them. Why would I say that,
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  Speaker 3: because Brett Toaf is just not a starting quality player.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we're trying to be nice here. It's been
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  Speaker 3: a good story. You know, he's been off the roster.
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  Speaker 3: Stott loves him, but you know what, you got to
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  Speaker 3: get better football play. And sue Petta started games in
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  Speaker 3: his career, and it's the guy who Stout knows very well,
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  Speaker 3: and he's back, Jeff. They've been looking for this backup guard.
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  Speaker 3: They also need a backup center. Yeah, they got to
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  Speaker 3: be better. And the run blocking guys. We've talked about
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  Speaker 3: this now for seven weeks. It's shocked, been shockingly disappointing. Again,
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  Speaker 3: trying to be nice, but Brett Toaf is just not
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  Speaker 3: a starting quality player. He's not a backup wise, he's
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  Speaker 3: not great either. Right, this is what they this is
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  Speaker 3: what they're dealing with right now.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is let's be fair because we credit when
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  Speaker 1: it's due, and then we have to call out things
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  Speaker 1: that aren't that don't go as to plan. You didn't.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't work out with Trevor Keith, and it didn't
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  Speaker 1: work out with Kenyan Green, and that has left the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles in this position.
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  Speaker 2: So I know, just as an aside that plays into
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  Speaker 2: what you're saying is Saquon Barkley has the highest percentage
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL of runs that gain no yards or
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  Speaker 2: lose yards, the highest percentage.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's fifty eight percent, Greg if.
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  Speaker 3: I know it's over fifty.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. People keep asking us what's wrong with Barkley.
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  Speaker 1: Is it's got to be something Barkley. I say, the
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  Speaker 1: numbers are the numbers every more than half the time
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  Speaker 1: he touches the ball, he has stopped behind the line
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage or at That's not anything that he can do.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the way it is, Adam to one thing.
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  Speaker 1: On your point, we always talk about the answers to
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  Speaker 1: the test. Now we don't know. We'll see elevations will
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  Speaker 1: be out four o'clock by four o'clock Saturday. If Drew
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  Speaker 1: Kendall is elevated, perhaps that is a sign that they've
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  Speaker 1: seen some development over him. And if it's not through
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  Speaker 1: a opeta, maybe Drew Kendall as somebody they feel can
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  Speaker 1: go in. I don't fifth th not ovated, right, I'm sorry, Active,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: What is your sense?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have a sense of how the staff feels
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  Speaker 2: about Kendall because I liked the college tap a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they did not see him as a guard. I
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  Speaker 3: know he can play it.
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  Speaker 2: They saw well he played center at Boston College.
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  Speaker 3: I understand, I know, but they they he took some
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  Speaker 3: reps of Guarden College and some in training camp, but
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  Speaker 3: he's really built like a center. I didn't speak to
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  Speaker 3: one team that saw him to play as a guard.
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  Speaker 3: To be bounce with you, but there is where they yes,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when you're in active every week, they don't
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  Speaker 3: think you're ready. But man, at some point I've talked
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  Speaker 3: I've talked to some ARIA scouts in recent weeks about it,
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  Speaker 3: who I knew had the area last year, and they
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  Speaker 3: felt he was an okay backup center type In terms
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  Speaker 3: of projection, you would have to wait a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: And that's kind of what's happening here. So Jeff as
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  Speaker 3: we sent him back to you. You know, the lack
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  Speaker 3: of depth of this football team has been it's been
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  Speaker 3: an underdiscussed story. It's been a little bit worse. Let's
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  Speaker 3: call it like it is. And we probably anticipated probably
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  Speaker 3: sure that's.
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  Speaker 1: On the old line. I mean that's the area that
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  Speaker 1: they usually aren't, you know, the ever thin and we
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the misses there. They tried. I just didn't do
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  Speaker 1: a good job of finding the right people. And I
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  Speaker 1: will say this, I'd be very very surprised if they
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  Speaker 1: don't have I mean, everybody has a contingency plan, but
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  Speaker 1: I'd be very surprised if things get out of hand early,
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  Speaker 1: if they don't make some kind of move. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you think about the Winston Justice game from so long ago.
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  Speaker 1: There was no contingency plan. They were just gonna throw
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  Speaker 1: them out there and let them get beat over and over.
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  Speaker 1: I would be surprised if things are terrible and Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Hurts is getting sacked left and right for the one quarter.
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  Speaker 1: If they don't make some kind of move in the game.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what other other than Dickerson? And the problem with
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  Speaker 3: with Lennon Dixon is he doesn't have just one injury.
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  Speaker 3: He has now a back injury, is the left ankle injury.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Crouch trying to play center might be a
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  Speaker 3: little bit harder for him. And then now Drew Kennall.
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  Speaker 3: The only other choices Drew Kendall.
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  Speaker 1: Or Or Prior. And I know they don't like to
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  Speaker 1: play him on the left side, but again, if you
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  Speaker 1: are a guard and you need something to do, Matt
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  Speaker 1: Pryor can go in there and at least block a guy,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 3: In terms of playing left guard and moving in the center.
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  Speaker 3: And Matt Prior has has numerous starts in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: You're not a quality player overall, but he has played
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  Speaker 3: a lot in the league. But he's been a right guard,
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  Speaker 3: not a left guard. That's I get it.
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  Speaker 1: But if you again, this is like if everything fails,
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  Speaker 1: you put him at left guard, you move Dickerson the
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  Speaker 1: center and hope that you can, you know, manage your way.
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  Speaker 3: We did see him, for the record, we did see him.
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  Speaker 3: I remember being surprised, Oh wow, he's actually lining up
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  Speaker 3: in left guard in training camp. Wasn't very much though.
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  Speaker 3: It was maybe one or two practice and that was it. Right,
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  Speaker 3: so it and and coaches have told me offensive line
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  Speaker 3: coaches told me, no matter what the media thinks of
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  Speaker 3: the fans think, it's actually very difficult if you're a
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  Speaker 3: guy who's been playing on the right side of your
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  Speaker 3: entire career, whether you move to left guard to left
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  Speaker 3: tackle very hard, Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Prior does have left side experience. He played left tackle.
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  Speaker 1: I think snares he.
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  Speaker 3: Say a little bit, but left hard, and that it's
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  Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. They're in a tough way. Trevor Keegan,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, is on the Cowboys injury reserve. What
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  Speaker 3: happened to him?
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  Speaker 1: There you go, all right, Giants injuries. They're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: without a starting cornerback. Paulson a debo, the best one, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: definitely their best one out with a knee injury. Chauncey
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  Speaker 1: Gulston defensive lineman also outed. Greg, He's what is he
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  Speaker 1: sort of a two way lineman for them? Or is
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: he mostly a couple of rotational rotational?
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, plays inside outside, you know, probably in the fifteen
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: to twenty snap range.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: A game kind of player.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, the big one Brian Burns questionable now. He
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: the most he did at practice was Friday and limited.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: But I believe is Adam you said in our podcast
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: on Thursday, he's expected to give it a go and
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: go play right.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Good? What is his injury, Adam, He has a hip injury.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: So their plan all week was to limit his work,
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: which they did. He said, he good, he's good to go,
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: and they did what they said they were gonna do.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: They're gonna limit him, and he got a little bit
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: of work on Friday. Now, anytimes a guy's got a
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: questionable tag, it's usually even if the team says he's
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: gonna play, it's got to get through pregame warmups. But
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: this guy's are playing so well. Greg, and I don't
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: know about you, if he couldn't play for some reason,
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: that that's a that's a difference maker to me.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I would agree with that really good player. They use
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: him in multiple ways. It would probably change how they
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: have to go about doing certain things.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Greg, you mentioned Javon Holland, he's doubtful with the knee,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: so that's usually a long long shot to play. We'll
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: see what happens with him. D L. Davidson another defensive
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: lineman questionable, he was limited on Friday. And kicker Graham
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: gonno questionable. Okay, he will kick. He's questionable. But I
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: was about to say he practiced fully all week long.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: And you know what, after what happened to the Giants
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: last week, it don't matter if his arm is falling off,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: he's kicking the ball.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Well, the only one, by the way, the kid, the
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: kid who got cut, is now in their practice squad. Mccammney. Yeah,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: but good, what what what? What it is is he's
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: got to get Graham got to get through the Saturday walkthrough. Yeah,
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: God forbid something. Now they have the other kid.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even bring him to the walk through if
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I were the giant up the bubble.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well no, but the problem is, see here, the
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: problem is you can't once you get past four pay
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: meter and you can't bring the kid up for the
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: practice squad. If he gets hurt, then the punter's got
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: to do it. You know, you don't really have anybody else.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: No, well, the punter might be better after what I
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: saw from that guy.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: But yeah, no, the good the good news for them
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: is Darius Slayton was cleared on Friday from the Hampshire Injura.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: And we know over the years, going back to when
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: he was drafted with Daniel Jones of twenty nineteen. Is
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: that some moments against the Eagles? Uh?
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I was gonna say if if they already
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: beat the Eagles with one Dale Robinson and the little
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey, I'm sure Darius Slayton just only adds to
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: their passing game. All right, cool, let's move on. Let's
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: get into the breakdown of this game. Let's talk about
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: this Eagles offense against the Giants defense.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Greg.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: When we last did our preview show for the first meeting,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: you said that the Giants kind of had an interesting
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: pass rush package where they take Dexter Lawrence off the field.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering, in the last time at times, right, is
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that still what they do?
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: No, I mean the last couple I mean.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: In the Eagles game, and it was prior to the
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Eagles game that the week prior to that, Darius Alexander
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: predominantly played in their dime with Burns, Carter and Thibodeaux.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Thibodeaux normally comes inside. They do that, although there are
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: dime snaps where Carter comes inside, where Burns is a
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: stand up joker, But the higher percentage of what they
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: normally do in their dime pass rush front is Thibodeau
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: is inside essentially at de tackle and Carter and Burns
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: are on the edge. In the last two weeks, it's
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: predominantly been Lawrence. The week prior to the first Eagles game,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: it was Alexander, and that's why we talked about it
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: So that's interesting, all right. I mean, I listen that.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: That shows you one thing, Odam, They've got depth on
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: that defensive front. They showed it against the Eagles. They
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: showed it at times against the Broncos. I always wonder
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: about the fourth quarter of Broncos games in Denver because
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: of the altitude and getting a little a little too
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: tired out, and maybe that was part of it. But
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: this is not the same old Giants. I mean, they
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: can rush the passer.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, their front is they've been you know, say what
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: you want, but they've been competitive with since Darts been
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the quarterback. Obviously that has no I don't want to
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: say that has no bearing on their defense, but I
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: mean their defense do lost the lineup and play, but
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: they've been a competitive football team, you know, So we'll see.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but defensively, you know, Davidson if he can't go,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously they do have a lot of depth upfront,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: but if certain guys can't go, that that changes that,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: you know, I think Holland, as I mentioned earlier, that's
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: that to me is a pretty big loss because now
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I'm curious to see because if they still want to
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: go Dime, I mean, I think the next man up,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: quite frankly, would probably be Bo Braid, who's a you know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a Maryland kid who you know, does not have as
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: a safety I'm talking about. I assume the corner that
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: will play opposite Flott, and by the way, Flot's played
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: pretty well guys is going to be Deontay Banks.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, who else do they have? They don't no,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: they're pretty much yeah, they're pretty much bare bones there.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: So you know, by the way Darris Alexander. Had he
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: not been older, you know he is. I think he's
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: twenty five years old, he could he would have been
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: drafted away earlier. I mean not the third round is late.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: But out of Toledo by the way, Eagles favorite school,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Jeff as you know.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Of course that's right. Where is Max and hook these days?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: By the way, he went after the Raiders I think.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Or someone he did signed with a practice squad.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I evaluated him too
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: coming out of college.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: There you go. So last week, right, we saw the
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Eagles had a wrinkle to their offense. It was going
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: under center sixteen times.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: And having I had nineteen times.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Well you know what they did it three two toush
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: pushes and a victory formation. So I just I took
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that out. I met like that. You're probably right, yeah,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: executing offensive plays out of it.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Of course, they ran most of the time out of it.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: They didn't throw very much out of it, and I'm
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: curious to see if that's the next step.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: No, that's what I was going to ask. Is that
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: something that we think they did game specifically just to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: try to add a wrinkle to their offense or is
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: it something because of the passing game success they had
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: out of it that they may want to try again.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I look again, I don't know what Nick Siriani
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: and Kevin Petulo think. I would continue to put him
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: under center. I would expand the past game element. Now,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: the thing we don't know for sure is if Jalen
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: is comfortable with that, because when you do turn your
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: back to the defense, obviously things change without sort of
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: a security blanket, and AJ Brown he may not feel
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: as comfortable that, Hey, if it's not there, I can
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: just throw it to Aj. You know, because normally, when
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: you put a quarterback under center and go play action,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: normally you're asking your quarterback when he snaps his head
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: around to really read one defender because you can't look
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: at five guys after you do that. You just don't
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: have time. Yeah, normally you don't look at five guys anyway.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: But the point I'm making is you pretty much ask
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: your quarterback to get eyes on one guy and then
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: you work from there and you can either make the
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: throw that you'd ideally like to make based on the
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: play call, or then you've got to just go to
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: whether it's a secondary rider or checkdown, you know, And
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: but I mean I, like I said, I would personally
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: like to see them expand on that and make it
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: a part of their pass game.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Greg. I was watching that seventh rewatching the seventy nine
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: yard touchdown that they threw going through under center play action,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: and I noticed that when Hurts took the snap and
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: handed it off, he didn't he didn't do a full
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: turnaround like sometimes you see on the play action. He
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: actually pivoted sort of fake pivoted to the right and
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: then threw it. And I was curious if that is
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: sort of a happy marriage of running under center without
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: having quarterback turn his entire back.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: The only thing I'd say there, Jeff, and we don't
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: know the answer to that is that might have been
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: specific to that play because they knew that Harrison Smith
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: was down low and they knew that they had Smith
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: won all one, and there was no need to play
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: it out as a.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: True play action and make it really look like a run.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: They had pre snap what they wanted, right, so they
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: they didn't need to quote unquote impact the defense.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Sure, you know that makes sense. Yeah, I mean I.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Don't know if that's the reason, but that that would
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: make sense to me.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're gonna run some bootlegs, that's a little
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: different story. You want to really sell that run and then.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Right and if you're just kind of running a normal
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: play action play and you really want the second level
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: defenders to really, you know, be impacted by by the
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: run action, then you do a little more, you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: something that's that's a little more a little strong.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Learn its look.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: So what do you think the Giants might do from
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a blitz or man for his zone coverage against the
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Eagles compared to what they did the first time?
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Well, that could be dictated by a J. Brown being out.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Who knows, you know, if they'll play more man coverage.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: As I said, flots actually played pretty well this year.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: You know, I know he doesn't have the size that
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: you ideally like, but there's a toughness to him. He's
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: played pretty well. Banks is a guy that no one
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: can figure out. Maybe the Giants can. They know him,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: We don't. But there's a guy with starting talent in
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the league. But you know, we all hear the same thing.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: He just doesn't know what it's like to be a pro.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I mean this is three years in the league now,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I think and if that's the case, who.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Knows if he's ever going to be a pro. We
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: don't know, but he's very talented.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: That's that's a hard question to answer, you know exactly,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: you know what they're going to do in this given game.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm trying to think back to
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: to you know, to what they did.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: The last game.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Look, the last game, they they did rush five or
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: more on ten of hurtz thirty eight dropbacks. You know,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: will they I mean, and obviously they had that interception
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: by flot which was in the high red zone and
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: they win zero, and it was the first time in
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: the game they win zero.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: We all know the result of that. It's hard to know.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the Eagles were awful on third
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: down in that game. They were one for nine.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: By the way, that zero that you know, we broke
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: that down on inside the tape and I know a
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: lot of people felt that AJ Brown should get the ball,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: but Greg you made an awesome point about, hey, you're zero,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: you got to get the ball out. That's usually the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: read there. But you know, a week later, he throws
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: a pass to AJ Brown that we have constantly said
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: that's not normally the pass he throws, and it was
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: a beautiful pass, but on the double posts twenty six
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: yard touchdown. Yeah, so I'm very curious and I'm sure
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you are to Adam like which which Jalen Hurts is
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: coming to this game.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: You know, It's funny because in the history of ours
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: three doing the show, there's sometimes when we feel like
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: a j bra I mean, it hurts a feeling. It
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: like there's just something that tells you that this is
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: the week. And sometimes they're right, sometimes you're wrong. But
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: it's hard because you see the way we know he's
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: got a great arm, right, I mean, this is that's
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: not the problem. It's it's so many different different play
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: callers in his career. It's not having the same personnel
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: the offense now, although the offensive line we've said for
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: pass pro has been mostly fantastic this season, but he's
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: not a part of the run. They're trying to make
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Hurts a part of the wrong game, but it hasn't worked.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Neither is it worked for Barclay. So there's not a
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: lot of continuity with their offense, Jeff. Right now, they can't.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: They're trying to. They're still trying to figure out what
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: they want to be well, they want to be a
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: running team, but they can't run it. And the second
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: half the became a passive team and it was beautiful.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Now you like it more on schedule, but the bottom
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: lines made big time throws. There's opportunities here. A debo's
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: not playing. The weather's going to be fine. It's not
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: a weather issue. There will be Here's the deal, Jeff,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: there is a center back to you. You got to
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: feel that he goes will be able to protect. We
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: know that the Giants have a really good rush, but
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: that's not a problem. They're gonna take some shot plays.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: But it's gonna start with a run game. Every game
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: they try to establish the run whatever you want to
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: call it. Right most of the time it's like, oh wow,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: two great runs, and then they keep trying. It doesn't work,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: so they got to throw the football. You got you
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: got to do something to move with the football. I
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: think it's gonna be the same approach, and don't think
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I feel strongly about it. I don't see them in
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: the first quarter hurts Strauss back ten times. They have
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the ball, and they run fifteen plays and they throw
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: twelve times. That's not before last year before Barkley got here. Yes,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: that's not what they are anymore.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I don't feel strange saying this, even though the Eagles
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: are five and two and last had a good offensive performance, Greg,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: But I feel like it's I don't want to say
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: now or never, but you got the bye week after this.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like they've got to figure out some kind
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: of a running game. Would be a marriage between an
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: intermediary passing game and a run game to go with
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: this shot play offense that they got. I mean, I'm
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: sure they loved the twenty eight points last week, but
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: we all know it's really hard to get all your
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: points scoring on third and fourth down.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: It's a great point, and you know the question that
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: would come up, and there's no question that against last
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: week's given opponent that Jalen Hurts played a great football
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: games that's not debatable. It was an interesting defense, and
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: they're not going to get a similar look this week.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, there were five six there were six man pressures.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I think there were seven, And because Brian Flores does
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: not play man coverage in the way we think of
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: man coverage, now you have five in coverage playing sort
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: of match zone, and there are a lot of voids,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and you know, look to Hurtz's credit, he made the throws.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, you still have to execute the plays, and
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: he executed at a high level last week clearly. I
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: mean he only missed four throws. And you know you
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: you referenced the twenty six yard touchdown to A. J.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Brown.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: That was just a brilliant play. That was great timing,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: great anticipation, really precise ball location. I mean, you can't
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: do it any better than that. We know about the
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: seventy nine yard touchdown to Smith. You can't grow any.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Better than that.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: He moved around a couple of times, kept his eyes up,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: and made good throws on third down. You know, he
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: played really high level football last week. But other than
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: that game and maybe the second half against the Rams,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: it's it's been a struggle in the pass game. So
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: the larger sample size this year has been a struggling
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: pass game, not a great pass game. Ideally, you used
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: last week as a springboard, but the defense they're facing
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: this week will be totally different than the defense they
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: faced last week.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Adam Goddard's got to be more involved, especially if they
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: want to be more successful.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeare Yeah, that's that's I'm glad we brought that
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: up because you've seen it. Jalen and Dallas. There chemistry.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Andrew and I saw this in training camp on if
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: you Sault Jeff. We were like, Wow, this is the
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: most we've really seen them hook up. You've seen it sporadically.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: We've seen some good games, no question, yep. But without
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: without a j Brown and that that size, he's the
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: We know that DeVante plays bigger than this listed size,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: but he's not gonna put on twenty pounds, right he yes,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: this this could be a got ter game. Absolutely right.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I agree with you.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: All right, So anything left, any leftover thoughts, Greg, Just
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: on the Eagles offense against this Giants defense. I mean,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I really think protecting hurts or or and how the
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Giants rushed the passer. I thought they did a pretty
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: good job of maintaining that rush discipline that sometimes teams
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: forget to do against Jalen.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think that they can throw the
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: ball against I know AJ Brown's out, but I think
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: they can throw the ball against this defense. You know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I think you've got to test Deontay Banks. He hasn't
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: played a lot of snaps he's handsy, you know, I
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: think you have to test him now. The key is protection,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: which they did really well last week. By the way,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I thought the Old Lion in terms of past protection
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: was outstanding last week for the most part. We'll see, obviously,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Tat is going to play center or certainly start at center,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: and he's going to get Dexter Lawrence in his face
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: quite a bit, and we'll see, you know, we'll see
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: how they handle that. You know, I'm not sure they
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: can just say to tos Hey, you could block them
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: one all one. Now you can, depending on what the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: play call is obviously, you know, if you're throwing quick
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: timing throws three step drop timing quick five step timing, yeah,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: you know. But if it's third and long and it's
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: and it's a deeper drop, and you know, we'll see
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: what they have to do to deal with that. But
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: you know, with that, with Holland out with a debo out,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I kind of feel like you can throw the ball
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: on this on this defense. But you know, now, now
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: can Jalen, you know, use last week as a springboard
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: and really you know, continue to look.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Sharp, right, like you mentioned, not facing the same team. Yes,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the Vikings have Grenard and they have Dallas Turner. They
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: didn't have Vankinkle. I think they missed him a lot.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: This Giants team, you know, assuming Burns is gonna be
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: good to go and he, I mean when you did,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: this is a totally different animal.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Well, and don't forget you know, you look at the
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Thursday night game this week and Minnesota again really struggled
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: with pressure. Herbert was phenomenal against the Vikings pressure, you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: and again now they have ten days and I'm certainly
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: not as smart as Brian Flores, uh, and he certainly
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: knows his defense way better than I do. But I
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: think he's gonna have to think about, you know, all
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: these pressure concepts where you're playing these zone match coverage
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: coverage behind it.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I just remember an early playing the game because I
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: looked at I didn't get through all that tape yet,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: but I got through some of it, and I just
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: remember there was a play where the Chargers did a
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: great job of just expanding the field horizontally with their
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: rout concepts, and when you have five and coverage, you
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: just can't cover to that, right you know. So uh,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: you know, I think this is going to be a
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: really interesting game for the pass game because I think
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: you can throw against this defense.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Uh and and.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see how they feel about it.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Jeff. I'm just gonna say one thing. If it's again
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Barkley struggling, then it's God, it's got to get involved,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: because I'm taking where Greg is going to talk about,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: you can throw. It hurts looks. So his meccounts were
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: so clean last week. It's someone told me who watched
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: the tape, So it's the clean s he'd looked seen
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: him in a while. I don't know what Thursy was
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: referring to it, because the deep ball was about one
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: of the best defros of the all season, of any
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: play of any quarterback. Right. But the bottom line is,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Jeff with got it with Davante Smith. You got at
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: least two guys, and Johan Dotson is not. He's actually
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: done a little better. He's gotten a little better. They've
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: got enough guys and calcul terror by the ways back
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I look, I know he's done block very well, but
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: he can catch. There's enough there from a pass target
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: group to get this done. I agree with Greg.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Well, it just raises one final point, Jeff before we
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: move on, how much twelve personnel versus a lot personnel?
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I think that's a question because with kal Kata back
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: and he's a pass catching tight end who can line
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: up anywhere, is this more of a twelve personnel game?
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: You know? Do they not feel comfortable with a third
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: wide out on the field?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: All right, let's flip it. Let's talk about this Giants
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: offense against this Eagles defense. And why don't we start
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: with Jackson dark Greg he's playing that. The one thing
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I've just felt just watching some Giants tape is what's
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: interesting to me is that they're not sort of coaching
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: him like a kid, little rookie. I mean, he's being
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: asked to fling the ball around. It doesn't look like
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: they're coaching him like a typical rookie that they might
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: be scared of. Is that would you?
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I think they're I think with the route concepts, they
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: are trying to really define the reeds for him, and.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: They're really doing a good job with that.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I've been borrowing from college from his college offense.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I haven't studied Lane Kiffin's offense in detail. You know,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of people say that to me. If you
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: say that, you got to know Glean Kiffin's offense really well.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't. I don't know it really well,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: so you know, I can't say that. But what I
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: do know watching the Giants tape is that there's a
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: lot of plays and route concepts.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Where they're there.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: They are kind of one read throws that the plays
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: designed for someone. If the route concept works the way
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to, then he just throws it to that
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: guy and it works.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: You know, he's guilty of watching too much of that
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Eagles game where he was hitting like multiple different.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Well, but that Eagles game, as we discussed after that game,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: when we did inside the tape after that game, there
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: were a number of breakdowns. There were a number of
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: issues with the Eagles past defense, which you know, I
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: don't think you can expect that to happen again. No,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: remember Carter didn't play, Mitchell got hurt after thirteen naps.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: That that's you know, you can't look at quote unquote
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: breakdowns and say, just like last week he hit Bellinger
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: for a long touchdown and which there was a breakdown.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: You know, you kind of have to dismiss those plays
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: when you evaluate.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: The quarter and the play. I mean, yeah, the.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Theo Johnson play which went on actually was a really
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: good throw too. I think it was Robinson and it
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: just bounced off of him, and you get they got lucky.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: But I think, don't forget he was only fifteen for
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: thirty three last week. They're trying to they're trying to
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: present it cleanly to him.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Now. The legs are a big deal. The legs.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Look, we saw what happened against the Eagles on the
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: first third down and where they had Bonne, a very
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: good athlete, spy on him. And it's great to have
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: a spy. Darius Butler today we were talking. We shot
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: the matchup show on Friday, and we were talking and
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: he said something that I said, Oh, you got to
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: say that on the show coming up. He said, spies
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: always worked great Monday to Saturday. Then you play the
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: game and you can't tackle the guy. Yeah, and you
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: know that's Yeah, it's a.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Great MAC is typically not as good as the I
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I love his term on time and on target at
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: the quarterback.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean it was great when he said that.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: It was actually after we shot the show, and we
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: were just talking because the Eagles Giants game in our
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: show was a full segment game. We did a full
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: segment on the game, and so that was the last
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: segment in our show because we normally get the biggest
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: rating in part four. And then you know, I actually
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: showed the touchdown, you know, against Bond as one of
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: as one of the two plays I did in a
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: film piece. And you know, Darius, what we were done
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: with the shoots said, you know, hey, spies always looked
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: work great Monday to Saturday until you're in the game,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: you know, and you know you got to tackle the guy.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: And Bonn's a good athlete, but he had no shot,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: you know, so it's easy to say, let's spy him.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: But you know sometimes that doesn't want to get him. Yeah, yeah,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: got to get him to the ground.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: He runs like hurts to me like he's he's not
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: gonna run a four to four and plays by you.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: But he can move subtly like he did the ball.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: And a little looser, not like ridiculously looser, but a
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: little looser.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, just sort of Josh more powerful, far more power
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: power runner.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gotcha. So the Giants, it'll be interesting to see
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: what Darius Slaton added to the mix, if they just
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: feel a little bit more comfortable opening up the offense
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: using Slaton trying not to be so one dimensional, or
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: if they still want to come into Philadelphia.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I think what'll be interesting is this. The Giants over
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: the last number of weeks have been a heavy base
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: personnel offensive team. They played a lot with two tight ends,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: sometimes with three tight ends. Now, if the Eagles go
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: base okay, which I don't know, you know, will they
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: take you know, Degene won't come off the field because
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: he'll play corner opposite Mitchell in the base, so Degene
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: will still be on the field. Will they do what
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: they did last week where Campbell in their five to
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: two front is the edge player and Dean is the
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: stacked backer along with the Bond. My guess is that's
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: what they'll do, because who's the other edge player.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: That's a great point. This is one of those opportunities
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: where you can really put Campbell on the edges because
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: right now you got Jelex Hunt, you have.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Patrick Johnson and Patrick Johnson, and I don't think they
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: want playing very much in their base defense small.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Because he small two and twenty pounds. They're gonna run
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: it with Scataboo right at him every time they can.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I would think that you're gonna see
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of I would think, again, you know, we
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: we have these conversations. We're not in the meetings, you know.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to interpret from film, you know, try to
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: pay it forward as it were, and see what the
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: you know, interpret what they might do going forward. I
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: would think that's what they would do. That Campbell would
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: play on the edge in their five to two front,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: and Dean, who's a very quick, trigger physical despite his size,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: you know, player in the run game. You know, because
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: scatter Bow is your classic grind it out physical, He's
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: gonna look for contact. He's not necessarily shifty the way
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: you think of shifty, but he gets hard yards.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: So Adam, how about this though, to Greg's point, let's
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: expand on that. Let's say the Giants come out three
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: wide on first down there, right, they're an eleven personnel.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: They still want to run the ball. You know that
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: you're the Eagles. You may want to have Jihad Campbell
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: out there on the edge opposite Hunt and Nikobe Dean
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: as your linebacker opposite ball and just to not have
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: out there so much and being light on the edges.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and by the way Nikobe's built up
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: his body last two years. I mean, I remember when
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: he first came in here, we were like, wow, he's
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: really small.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Then we went to one training camp, We're like, wow,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: he put on a lot of masks on his frame.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: So yeah, But just to get back to the edge
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: thing that they could play Carter and a wide nine,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: which they've done a little bit. They've got Ojomo, he
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: could do a little bit of that.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Well, that would happen in past for a situation.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Right right right now in base but I understanding past.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm looking at pass for situations. What will
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: they do because they're so light. Yes, they're down to
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: three guys. IS's gonna have to I would sooner'll start over.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Patrick Johnson, Patrick Johnson, is you know what? Greg and
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Jeff a former Giant by the way, an Eagle again, Yeah,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: he's not bad.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: He's done a nice to them, good snaps. There's about it.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Yep. And then now the only guy on the practice
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: squad they could potentially bring up, by the way, he's
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: never played in the game. Is Antoine Powell Ryland, who
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: they've already cut once, let's be realistic, and he's a
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: pass rusher, So I don't know if they would.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Plus, I mean if I would have to think they're
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: going to try to use the if they use their
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: two elevations, one's going to be on an offensive line
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: man and one will probably be on a wide receiver.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if they're.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Sue Pett Holland Pierce's I'd be stunned. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: the international kid. And then it's a PETA petal would
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: be make a ton of sense. Could play either guard spot, yeah,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: the receiver. Now, if if Darius Cooper, by the way,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: is ready, they don't need to they could just they
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: could just well they'd have to clear spot, but he
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: could certainly play as their fifth receiver. True. If they
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: don't think he's ready to do that, then they could
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: go to Terras Marshall, who who? Man? Did he look
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: good in O THF. I know it's before he got hurt,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: really good.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Well, the problem is he also look good in training camp.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Everybody seemed to look good and hurt. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: He did get hurt for a little while. But before
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: he did, he he looked pretty good. I mean, John,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: he had the best camp of anybody, and he's been
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: absent from the office.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: AARs Marshall is a guy that confused me because I
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: liked him coming out of LSU. We could line up
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: inside outside. He had some moments with Carolina where it
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: looked like he'd be a nice player, maybe not a star,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: but a nice, you know player, And then he seemed
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: like he fell off the face of the earth.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: What did they They got realed down on him. Their
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: former personnel staff who drafted him, by the way, they
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: liked him just like you did. They loved this college tape.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: No one argued when he was a second round pick.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: But yeah, not a great practice player. And when also
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: when coaches, this is what happens when coaches are they
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: make the game day call where they don't want to
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: use the player. You kind of know where the players
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: at and they moved on to the Raiders, the Niners,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: and now he's here with Eagles.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: And as you know, guys, sometimes when coaches get down
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: on a guy, no matter what he does after that,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: just it doesn't matter.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: We've seen that here, yeah, I mean, you know, some
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: guys have actually thought got like Josh Job has gone
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: on and played well.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Josh Job is the best outside corner on the Seahawks,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: and their defense is playing at a really high level.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Exactly the point. Yeah, one man's junk is another's treasure,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: is what they said.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff, heat Now, I'm not blaming the coaching. I
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: just know for a fact that the kid just struggled here.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah who Joe Yes, struggling mightily here, really badly. He's
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: really good in Seattle. He's there now, he's their best corner. Jeff.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think the Saints are saying about
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Zach Bonn right now?
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: I mean it's well, they're playing a different position.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, So look, it's
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: gonna be It's gonna be Killy Ringo as we just
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: talked about, and unfortunately for the Eagles there's no there's
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: really no real good contingency plan because Dori Jackson's out
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: and Jacorey and Bennett is out as well. So it's
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: gonna be. Now here's really hit interesting what happens if
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: they have an injury at corner to either Quinnon, Mitchell
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: or Killy Ringo. Then they've really got to figure out
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: it's an issue there. Well, you know, okay, I guess
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: you can play Cooper to Gene outside, Yes, of course,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: and live with somebody else at Nickel.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I guess that would definitely Bell.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Well, will mac McWilliams be active.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Well, that's probably that's part of it. But they're they're
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: in house things. Harry Nickerson's been active, right, but he's
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: more of it. They seem more as a Nickel and
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: he knows the scheme. He is with Vic in Miami.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: But one guy do you want to mention Jeff? I
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: don't know that he's been here long enough, but I
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: remember talking to someone with the forty nine ers. Ambry
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Thomas had a ton of injuries. But Ambry Thomas, Jeff,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: let's go started games.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, he has started games. He was a third round pick.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: If I'm not making at a Michigan.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Correct, Jeff, you know how much the Eagles love these
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: former forty nine.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Or thirty Oh? I know that's right. But again, is
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: kestro Fields by the way back with the Eagles on
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: their Yeah he is another forty nine er, but yeah, yeah,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: so but that just shows you at him, they have
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: to be very judicious and wise with their elevations, because
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: we're all talking about practice squad players, and we again,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: there's wide receiver, there's offensive line, and now corner and
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: you only get two.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: But your your point is, yeah, if your point is
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: a great one, because you know what happens if you
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: hate to see it. Of course, if Mitchell or Ringo
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: gets hurt.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which happened the last time they played the Giants.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Mitchell, Yeah.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I mean they're in some dire straits there at corner.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: This this has to make it. I just feel like
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: this is going to be an ugly game. I've felt
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: that way the whole week. And since I said that,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: why don't we move on to Yeah, let's wrap it up.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I think we already, oh real, real quick. Just though
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: on wrapping up the defense, Greg, I believe that was
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: a coverage game for Vic Fangio against the Giants last time,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: or he didn't blitz as much. Correct? Do you remember offhand?
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Uh, I'll tell you in a sec.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I remember I walked out it being a coverage game.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: It was let's see, they played high percentage cover one
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: in that game, and that had been a big foundation
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: through their first six games. I mean they at that
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: point they played it the third highest percentage in the league.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: If you remember, in that game the Giants were eleven
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: for sixteen on third down.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so might make VIC want to rethink that. Yeah, defense, yep.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would expect that you might see a little
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: more you know, selective pressure in this game that I
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: would think that.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: By the way, we didn't talk about real quick, we
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: didn't talk about the Giants offensive line. Safe to say
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: that not only is it not a laughing stock anymore,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: but they're doing a much better job of a you know,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: setting the tone in the run game and giving some
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: protection to the quarterback as compared to Yeah, the last
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: few years.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: It's a professional offensive line right now. There you go.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Functional.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: It's not great, but it's it's not it's not a
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: prob it's not a train wreck.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: To fine professional.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: They wear ties underneath their uniform. Adam, they have nice
• 46:57
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• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah he loses that a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: one and up. All right, so let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna predict this game. We're gonna go. I think
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: the Eagles are. Last I checked, there were seven and
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: a half point favorites. I would be surprised if there
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't a little bit of line movement in the with
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: the A. J.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Brown News here, I would, I would, I would. Man,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: this thing is to me my personal line would be
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: like five, I'd be you want to start with me?
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you go ahead, started off to start the week.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Of course, we didn't know A. J. Brown wouldn't be
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: playing because we didn't know when they hit an injury.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: They hit the dreaded pop up injury. Well, the line
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: is still seven a half and forty four. But I
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: thought the Eagles could blow them out. But again jargons
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: AJ Brown, Dickson's playing banged up. I just boy that Johnson. Now. Now,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: the one thing is mentally how the Giant's gonna be
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: after a humiliating loss. They're now two and five. That's
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: something that they're gonna be on the road here again.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: But I like the Eagles to win it twenty four
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: to twenty. This is to me a tight game, which
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: ironically it hits the over under total like it would
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: be a push. But it's tough. And my player of
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: the game this week is hard. But I'm gonna use
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: number eighty eight. They didn't trade him. It's Dallas Goddard.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: He's got to be used more than he will.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Be all right, And Dallas Goddard that was going to
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: be my player of the game. I might have to
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: rethink it real quickly.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Jeff, do I have to
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: pick a player or can I pick a coach?
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: You know what, for you, Greg, I will make an exception.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna pick Vic fan Joe.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine two weeks after they just played and
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: you know, he saw a young quarterback for the first time.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: I strongly believe that Vic fan Joe will have a
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: scheme we have. I am not smart enough to have
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: any idea what vic Fanjoe is going to do, but
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: he's been around the block. This is not his first rodeo.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: The Giants do not have great offensive personnel by any
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: the imagination. Yes, Dart has given them energy and a
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: stronger sense of hey, we can compete. But he's still
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback that is not particularly you know, a
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: fishing yet from the pocket, and he does break down
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: pretty quickly. I just think that Vic Fango is going
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: to have something that's gonna make this game difficult for Jackson.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Dark And the score is.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, I forgot about that part of it.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Let's go pick the Giants to win, now, right, Giants fifty.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Now I think I'm gonna go twenty four to sixteen Eagles.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Twenty four to sixteen Eagles. All right. I did predict
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: earlier this week the Eagles to win twenty three to
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: twenty one in my Philly Voice preview. Now was before
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I knew aj Brown was not going to play. But
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just not with you or smart enough to be
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: able to adjust on the fly, So I'm gonna keep
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: it twenty three twenty one. I am going to change
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: my player of the game. I think we are going
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: to see. I don't know why I'm saying this because
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: of their injuries up front on the offensive line, but
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I just got a feeling Saquon Barkley's gonna have his
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: best game of the year.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: Not gonna be a great one, good, but good luck
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out when that's gonna happen. When he's
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: gonna be a huge game.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: If you ever that's gonna be it, he will win
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and or he will be the player of the game.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: The Eagles will win twenty three to twenty one. All right,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: So that is the Inside the Birds pre game show.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Eagles Giants Week eight should be a great one at
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: the Link Sunday afternoon for Great Cosell and Adam Kaplan
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Mosher. Thanks for watching the Inside the Birds
• 51:33
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