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Strictly Bias with Will Retherford: NFL Week 18 Reaction (2.133.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to the strictly biased podcast with Will Rutherford, is reaction to the NFL's week of the team, and it's only on the central Indiana Sports Report.
• 0:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back everybody to Strickly Buious with yours truly will read the Fragon New Central India Sports Report for our week 18 slap, super wild card weekend ahead of us.
• 0:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Greg, I know that I have a lot to say, I know you have a question to ask, but first I would like to take the time to introduce our 20-25 Central India Sports Report, picks competition champion,
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: producer Suzy onto the show Suzy.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for joining us.
• 0:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're more than welcome.
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm happy to offer my expertise on your shows.
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I appreciate that.
• 1:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate the humility there as well.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, well, I'm telling you every time one of these games on TV was an underdog and came from behind you would look at me and say, I told you I told you, I told you, sometimes sometimes there would be lucky to be good and she just was at a hot hand the whole year and that I'm sure she had the Steelers last night.
• 1:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that for a fact.
• 1:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure she didn't know.
• 1:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: She didn't.
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Didn't matter.
• 1:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's still one by 20 points.
• 1:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that was that was a painful when I had the Ravens and that when I figured when when the missed field goal happened, I just said, I'll see if he take this deal.
• 1:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what happened.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Most of those this year, but she was also really good.
• 1:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, she was.
• 1:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she seemed like every weekend.
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: She kind of had the the spoiler of the week kind of sniffed out and.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've been joking most the time.
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate how competitive she was with it and how really detailed it was.
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there is a reason behind the madness all the sometimes I struggled to find it.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: But every time I felt that way, it went in her favor and not really did.
• 2:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Look, I was every week watching the film, calling my contacts, getting the download on the injury list, and just generally doing, doing the footwork, doing the research, and what needed to be done, and then just that little bit of extra magic of Susie magic, let's push the over.
• 2:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: producer Susie magic is a new thing.
• 2:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see if she can do it again in the playoffs because it all starts over.
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to be to be quite honest with you, I think it now is one of the good for real.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know that I, you're going to go through the final Sannings.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would like to say I finished fourth.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did Cade have the Steelers.
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cade, Hampton had the Ravens.
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it wouldn't have mattered.
• 3:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, I would lost by four points if the
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: The pick the Steelers and the Ravens one I would have fish and third would have been a nice little bronze medal after a treacherous final stretch of the season.
• 3:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've won week 18, which made me not finish last in the competition.
• 3:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just wanted to point out.
• 3:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I saw that Elijah Poe of the Ball State Daily News was second with 621 points,
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: six hundred and two will as he mentioned five and ninety eight microch our pacers guy five eighty nine grant shouts of the i u report and the axon sports network five eighty eight Jeremy Gidgi of white river communications and one of my all time favorite radio stations ten ten csi Michelle garment five seventy six
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I did win the week, Susie, Elijah Poe, and Will all tied for second.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So Will, you and I were kind of close with our picks all year.
• 4:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: We kind of had the same kind of feeling about the season, pretty soon, when a different direction and it paid off.
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: But
• 4:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, it starts over now.
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
• 4:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: It definitely keep me engaged in the entire, I think League is a whole rather than just kind of focusing on the good teams toward the end.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: You kind of had to stay laser focused.
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate Susie, Grin and Tape, and just being all about ball.
• 4:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: This whole time job.
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a full time job.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she put a full time job in here on this pick's competition.
• 4:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: She reached the benefit of it.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: She gets thing that trophy up on the mantle.
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
• 4:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: For the rest of her life, her tombstone will read, loving wife picks competition champion.
• 4:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it will.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's, and you, you know,
• 4:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's something that you can make sure happens too, which is even better, even better.
• 5:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot producer.
• 5:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're loving why producer, phenomenal producer, there you go.
• 5:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Picks competition champion.
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, thanks so much, producers.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's easy for joining us.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
• 5:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
• 5:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Producer Suzy needs to go because her nephew is about to go win a national championship in FCS football.
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Go Redberg.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Producer Suzy.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Greg, after we got that victory lap out of the way, well deserved, but beyond it's kind of the same top.
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've got a lot to say this week, I kind of have an indication of where your collection is going to be, so what would you like to know?
• 5:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why don't you just let me back down?
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: The problem is we've done it.
• 6:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a night's life last night.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Once again, I think through that for whatever reason, Steelers just kind of have his magic now and he can play all of a, sure, I, I, I've sent it the whole time.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you respect the intended seven having a horrible draft pick and losing the wildcard round every year, my Tom was the Taj Mahal of coaches.
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly what you want in the head football coach.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the record is impressive to have gone
• 6:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So long without losing season, he's never had one this career.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do think that they've always been a team to that has put a good group of guys around them.
• 6:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Really for the most part, they've had a great quarterback play for you know, a good chunk of that career with Benaroff the spurger than they've been anchored by a phenomenal defense
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: the last four years.
• 6:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody we can give him his flowers, but also recognize the fact that they've been pretty fortunate with injuries not happening to their star players.
• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a should prove a point in the training staff.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Until one of them got stuck in the lung by their own trainer.
• 7:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and if it weren't for that, he doesn't be able to overcome TJ Watts' absence for and whatever reason I get that that's a future Hall of Famer and a top two at his position in the league right now.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: The record with him not on the field is not good.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not, I don't feed into the media propagation that he's just some elite incredible head coach.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that he's a good head coach.
• 7:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that what he's done is impressive.
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: His resume, I'll get him in Canton, but to me, he's kind of a, a mute point at this point.
• 7:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: His message doesn't seem to connect the way it did 10 years ago and they really have nothing to show for whatever success he's had.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're not going to do a normal winters and losers this week, they're obvious and we're talking about all the same thing, so we're just going to talk about the winners and losers and I'm going to start with the biggest losers of the week and that is Colts fans.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the press conference today that happened at 230 was pretty brutal for a lack of better words.
• 8:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: It left me with zero faith that the new regime has any competency of how to run a football team.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the decision to keep both Shane Stike and Chris Ballard sets a organization back once again.
• 8:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: five years.
• 8:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't see an in-densei, I think they're going to bring the annual Jones back.
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really think that helps move the needle at all at this point.
• 8:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the comments from Shavarius Ward in terms of his health, which I understand, your brain is your most vital organ.
• 9:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: You had multiple concussions.
• 9:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: You had three this season.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's definitely concerning, I think that whenever brain trauma like that occurs and you're still experiencing some lingering symptom, I think that you have to remove the athlete from the man and just you know hope that the man can be okay and and kind of want athlete second obviously the cults in this fan base would love to have him back on the field.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's.
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: a little unlikely at this point if so he might be a training camp type of guy where he don't hear much from him and then in August he decides he wants to put the helmet back on but I I do agree with this statement on one more it's it's time to be done.
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just you don't want to rack up six, seven concussions, even at the NFL level.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: My main message though for Cole's fans is I don't see an end inside.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's any better.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we're 10 years away from this organization actually competing for anything.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I still don't really see that as as much of a likelihood at this point.
• 10:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: We feel like we're stuck in the 80s again.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: The 1980s where they were just were like seven minutes, nine every year.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the reluctance to build a winning team.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just the thought of, we're going to just find being comfortable where we're at.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: What is Chris Ballard exhibited at this point that shows he can be a Super Bowl winning general manager?
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: He leaves the chiefs they immediately get better and I think that's probably purely coincidence he wasn't the head GM, but he was still a high up in that organization.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's the longest tenured general manager that is not one of Super Bowl.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's one one playoff game.
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like he's getting to the against the championship every year.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or he's the Super Bowl and what they're thinking.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's there.
• 11:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's been a GM for ten years.
• 11:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yesterday, my thought was well, that's it.
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's no doubt about it now.
• 11:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they just continue to amazing me that they would roll with this.
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: it's not like they're the worst it's not they're going to put it up they're not horrible they're not they're not they're not some horrible football team the problem is is that they just don't win enough games to be great and they're just going to kind of hover in this level of mediocre for a long time they have for the last three years they've been content
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: just being the status quo.
• 11:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that is the worst spot to be an organization.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Pacers were there for a long time where they were just okay being okay.
• 11:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they said we're never going to take we're going to put a winning product out on the core and they did that.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And but they never put a team that could go when the finals and it takes that one run where now it's like, okay, this team can go in a championship.
• 11:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's still around it.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Colts brought in Saw Scardner for the two first round picks.
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that there's a player in this draft.
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's better than Saw Scardner.
• 12:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think right now it feels like a win still from the standpoint that you got a top two corner in the league when healthy for what you got them for.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I struggle maybe in the 2027 class, which looks like it's gonna be pretty good.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: You might have wished you had that pick back, depending on where that pick is.
• 12:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's one of those where you can argue both sides.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I still think they probably overpaid just a touch, but we would have been sitting back if they finished state nine and said, why did Chris Paload go make a move to make this team better?
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: He went and did that at least.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: He finally did that.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It just,
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't work out for him because Dan of Jones got injured and it started even before that.
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: That the team was starting to struggle a little bit.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: You go back to that game in Berlin against the Falcons.
• 12:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: They kind of got sloppy with the ball that they weren't able to convert on force down.
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: It took Jonathan Taylor just having an incredible game for them to just win that one and that moved him to eight and two and I don't know I didn't have a great feeling at the buy when you looked at the schedule ahead and you looked at kind of the the film they had put on hate the last two weeks between that Pittsburgh game in Atlanta it just all kind of crumbled in it they played an incredibly difficult schedule.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: but other teams play a really tough schedule too and they found the way to get the job done.
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jacksonville found the way to get the job done.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Houston started O and three.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were three and five at one point.
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do they do?
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: They find the way to get the job done.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's got to matter for something and until this culture gene can change the narrative that that's possible, I can't believe it.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And don't forget everybody that we will have a culture report later this week.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: You'll hear thoughts like that from Will, but probably a little more thought out.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: that was a very, uh, nothing I disagree with that and what you just said will.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I feel even worse, just kind of after the press conference, I didn't think that Carly or say, put a good performance out there.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that she sold to the fan base that she believes what she's saying.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I, I don't know what her hesitancy is.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: She just sounded like somebody that didn't know what she was talking about to be quite honest with you and she's been on the sidelines for three years.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I am a little confused by that.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, who were the other winners and losers in your mind?
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think it would be foolish to say that the Seahawks weren't a huge winner at.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of gross 13 to three.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: The defense plan that an incredible performance Greg, I think what happened to the 49ers is what we kind of talked about where if the offense struggles, that they're just not going to be good enough.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when you slow down that offense, I think their defense is while they put on a good performance in Seattle, it just never felt like they were going to stop Seattle when they needed to do it.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Christian McAfrey obviously had a brutal ball come off his hands.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: He also, I wouldn't say it was incredibly well thrown either.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he got a lot of blame for that.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't a perfect ball from party.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I guess it's just kind of one of those games that you chalk up.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: The 49ers just simply weren't the better team to see ox continue their dominance on the road.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I saw them as a big winner.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Greg, I also saw the Texans as a huge winner for the reason that they were able to get their start of rest in the second half and still win a game and get the seed that they've really wanted to get the whole time.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe I kind of talked to my dad during the Colts game.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think of Jacksonville jumps up to a big lead.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't be shocked to see Houston rest guys just because if you're not playing for the division and you already know you're a wild card team,
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: they would hesitate to go play.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I actually kind of think after what we saw from the Steelers last week, the Texans would be a little hesitant to want to go play it.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's bigger, especially with Aaron Rogers ability to play at the line of skirmish.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: But they were able to win when CJ Strauss on the bench for the second half.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's huge for them.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know the Steelers are winning that game, right?
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've been really loud about them not winning that game that they had no chance of winning a playoff game, but I don't know if I feel the same way after that.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about that again later this week, not on the Colts Report, but on the another addition of strictly bice with Will Rutherford as we preview all the wildcard games.
• 16:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: kind of a one last winner I want to talk about that might fly under the radar just a little bit I thought the lion's were a winner because I think that you saw what the culture Dan Campbell has brought to that team and that organization they and they have nothing to play for nothing to play for there a team with a bunch of scrappy guys that want to go compete they go into Chicago against a guy that was their offensive core data for years and they just go win a football game
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: All men are all Saint Brown played out of his mind.
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jared golf played incredibly well.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I liked what I saw from Jamir Gibbs.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I liked what I saw from Jameson Williams.
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I talked about in the text thread about just how they're looking for next year.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like they want next year to happen now.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mind you, they're going to play a number four schedule.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to get every team's fourth best team.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the NFC, and then they're opponents in the AFC where you're matched up against where other teams finish in the standings, they're going to my crop of the year next year would be that the over Lions went total right now.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I would do.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're my favorite to win the division because they're going to get to play a four schedule because I believe in the town.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe in the culture because they go and win games, even when they don't need to.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: They did this three years ago when they played the Packers on Sunday night football, the Packers win in their end.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: What did the Lions do?
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: They go to Green Bay.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: win and then the next year, they almost get to the Super Bowl.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So expect them to rise.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I saw that as a huge win for Dan Campbell, a big win for the Lions.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: They have their draft pick now.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be taking a little lower than they have in the two years.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: Expect them to bounce back.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Greg, there's a lot of teams I don't think can win the Super Bowl to be quite frank with you.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think to me, there's about four teams that I feel strongly about having any chance.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: All start off by saying, I don't think the Carolina Panthers have any chance to win the Super Bowl.
• 18:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I see them as the worst team in this field.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're finished at nine.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: We agree.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that the home field helps them and round one, I don't think it results in a win.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: They'll cover the spread.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're just not good enough, quite blank.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even if they win that one, they're not winning three more.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I'll match over.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll go with the four seed in the AFC.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the Steelers come in the Super Bowl.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that they can win a playoff game at home against a team who's off and doesn't very good either.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like Aaron Rodgers match up against this Houston defense.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little surprised that Houston is opening it that three and a half point favorites to be honest with you based on how I saw Aaron Rodgers perform.
• 19:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's always risen in the playoff.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like them on Sunday.
• 19:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like them anywhere else to be quite honest with you.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Greg, I'll move back to the NFC.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the Packers have any chance of winning the Super Bowl.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: With the injuries to Mike Parsons, with the injuries to tuck the craft, they limped into the playoffs.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: If they had not tied the Cowboys, they would have not made it.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Detroit would have been in.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Minnesota would have been and actually, but sorry, Michelle, well, before we go on, I just want to have one more on my list that can't win it.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: You want to guess who that is?
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have nine that I think can because it's so wide open.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to take a peek.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you don't think the chargers can win the Super Bowl.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do think the chargers can because I believe them their quarterback in their head coach.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think they will.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I have them as the number eight out of nine teams that I think can win it.
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: The new ing, uh, the Texans.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I already mentioned the Texans.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, Greg.
• 20:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to take one more guess if you will let me.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: the bears.
• 20:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not the bears that's doing on Patriots.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like that you said that I don't think they can win the Super Bowl either.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were also on my list.
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that the two seeded deceiving, they have the same wins against the Las Vegas Raiders against teams above 500, that's not conducive to success.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: To me, I don't think that they have any chances of winning the Super Bowl.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, well, who else on my list do you think can not win the Super Bowl?
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's really going to be difficult for the Texans just based on the offense.
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the defense is is plenty good enough.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I don't have them full blown on my list that they can't win the Super Bowl.
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't love what I see out of strald all the time.
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that there are teams that will struggle to go win on the road, especially if they have to play three road or three road games.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like to match up.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've played a lot.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: They played a lot of these
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I definitely like the Broncos if they get a rematch there again.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Broncos have kind of had a run at him.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: The first game in Houston, I see that just kind of continuing.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Other than that, I think your list is good.
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of think that I agree on the Texan.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll just tell you ahead of time, my 14's not in the top five and tell me if you think any of these teams can not make the Super Bowl.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jaguar's Chargers, Bears, 49ers, I all say can win the Super Bowl of everything goes well, but probably won't.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the best team out of that list person is Jaguars.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they actually are built the way out of the CFC class to get there to be quite honest with you.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love what their offense has been.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they can establish a run game when they need to be quite honest.
• 22:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Liam Cohen's fine with Trevor Lawrence just thrown ball around and I think that they're a team that they can play physical, but they can be really explosive with Parker Washington and Jacobi Myers down the field.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't as they get to play two home games.
• 22:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that they've already proven they can go on the road and beat the dogs not out of Denver.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've beaten the dogs shit out of the chargers.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've beaten the Texans.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're better than the Steelers.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're going to win this weekend against the bills.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: To be quite honest with you.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to go and say, I don't think the bills are good enough to overcome where Jacksonville strength is.
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely going to be a curious game for me, especially I'll be honest, Greg.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the two best teams play each other in the AFC this week.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the drag wires and the bills are the two teams that I think can actually win the Super Bowl out of the AFC.
• 23:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: They are the best two teams in the AFC.
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, except for I have the Broncos in my top five because they have home feel.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I do too, I just, I think on paper, yes, and what we've seen on film, the Jags and Bills are the two best teams in the AFC.
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wait hold on, we need to ask producer Susie because she's the one who knows everything.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: You agree that the bills and Jaguars are the two best teams in the AFC.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: There you go, we all three agree.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's really down to you.
• 23:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was resounding by Susie.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: She was hesitant because she also thinks the Broncos might be too.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nice things the Broncos are good if they're often to configure it out at all.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Their defense is going to keep them in games, but why can't Jackson will go do what they did against inver again?
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: So then give me your top five.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: My top five, in no order to be quite honest with you.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here are my five teams I think are the most likely to win the Super Bowl with now.
• 24:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to read some kind of order there.
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, number five, I'm going to give you the C-Ox to be quite honest with you.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're on this list because they're number one, I just don't trust Sam Darl, the winters Super Bowl.
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: To be honest with you, I think that the home field helps.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: They don't play very good at home to be quite honest with you.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: They play really good on the road.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to get to play a road game.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: They play pretty good everywhere.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're numbers three on my list.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Number five on mine, Greg, I think my number 14 right now is the Buffalo Bills to be honest with you.
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they have a tough matchup this week.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: One against Jacksonville.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think if you're the Bills, you want to play anybody but Jacksonville.
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I think this is the kind of the sleeping giant right now that offensively and defensively are playing really well.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like the Jags Run game.
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: defensively a lot.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I also like it on the ground.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: You talked we talked all year about Josh Owens magic.
• 25:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see we'll see if it's there.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're number one on my list.
• 25:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: As you know, I know that all year.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they have.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: My number three team, the LA ram, I still believe in Matt Stafford.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that they've kind of limped in the playoffs.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't really played inspired football.
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: They haven't had to.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've been in the playoff longer than anybody else has.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I see there at your number five.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just kind of like what Matt Stafford's done.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really like Puka and Devonte Adams.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: they just kind of win in a sense.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that game against the Falcons was a blue staffer's not throwing three picks again.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's just not going to happen.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So congratulations, you want a meeting less Monday night football game.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it was meaningful for the Carolina Panthers.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I still pressed and believe in Matt Stafford.
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: My number two team is the Denver Broncos at this very given moment.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I trust the home field.
• 26:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I trust the defense.
• 26:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's about all I trust to be quite honest with you.
• 26:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've been really hot to try out with Bowknicks and the winner, they find a way to get the job done.
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really like what I saw a week 18 at all, they look absolutely atrocious.
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: He makes plays here and there, but he is not good for far too long and stretches of games that's gonna get him beat.
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're probably right.
• 26:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: My number one team Greg and in this might come as a huge surprise with you.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going just straight off for roster.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like to fill no few eagles to get back to the Super Bowl.
• 26:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think their defense is absolutely unreal.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's enough for me.
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's enough for me.
• 26:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're on my list, honestly.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're probably the most complete team.
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can do a little bit of everything.
• 26:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can beat in a lot of different ways.
• 26:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Their defense can score.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're offensive.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you're third and less than two pretty good chains are getting the first down, lots of like with the Eagles, we thought it was gonna blow to didn't, and now we should just be honest and say, Jalen Carter is gonna be tough to beat.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some might be surprised.
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought Jacksonville's gonna win this week and it didn't happen in my top five.
• 27:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know what you'll say in though.
• 27:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're at home this week, but you don't think they can make the run through the tournament.
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: You think if the bills win, they can.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: My first team out is Jacksonville.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're my 16 just for kind of the reason I said before, I like the way that the roster's constructed.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love the way Trevor Lawrence has played.
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've really kind of beaten teams badly.
• 27:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: This last six game run that they've been on the A game win streak.
• 27:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: don't make sense for those that want to make it make sense.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think for others they'll now you're a buffoon, but I completely agree with you.
• 27:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like the Jaguar's chances this week, but if they don't win I think the bills are making the run through the AFC.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we could look back at this game and say that the Super Bowl AFC finalist was came out of the game.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Either way.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, thank you so much.
• 28:05
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• 28:06
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• 28:14
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• 28:17
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• 28:19
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• 28:26
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• 28:32
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