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Transformational Breathwork with Samantha Skelly · The Trauma Therapist

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Speaker 1: a show about the incredible people dedicated to helping those
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Speaker 1: who experienced trauma. My name is got macpherson, and my
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Speaker 1: mission is to raise awareness of trauma and to inspire
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Speaker 1: each of us to help those around us. Are you
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Speaker 1: ready to do it?
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Speaker 2: You're ready?
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Speaker 1: All right, here we go. So five or three, two
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Speaker 1: and one, our folks, welcome back to the podcast. Very
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Speaker 1: excited to have us. My guest today, Samantha Skelly. Samantha welcome.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure
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Speaker 2: to be here.
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Speaker 1: Awesome. So Samantha is a powerhouse entrepreneur, international best selling author,
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Speaker 1: sought after international speaker, host of that Can't Be Contained podcast,
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Speaker 1: and found the world leading breathwork brand Clause breath Work.
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Speaker 1: For over decades, Samantha has made a significant impact in
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Speaker 1: the world of spiritual and personal transformation. Her trauma informed
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Speaker 1: approach to healing and awakening through the power of breath
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Speaker 1: Work has changed the lives of over four hundred and
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Speaker 1: five hundred thousand people, accounting her mission advances through training
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Speaker 1: and certifying people to become Breathwork facilitators, and through her
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Speaker 1: innovation mobile app Pause brad Work. Samantha, Welcome to the podcast.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.
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Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to do so. Before we can go
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Speaker 1: in here, share with our listeners where you're from originally
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Speaker 1: and where you are.
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Speaker 2: Currently originally, I'm from Vancouver, Canada, my hometown. That's a
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Speaker 2: beautiful city, ever, and I currently live in San Diego, California,
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Speaker 2: which is also absolutely stunning, just better weather, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, awesome, awesome, so really interesting. I'm not sure as
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Speaker 1: I was reading your bio, not sure if I've really
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Speaker 1: interviewed someone who's really focused on the work that you're doing.
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Speaker 1: How did this start?
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Speaker 2: I grew up as a child actress, a dancer. I
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Speaker 2: was a stunt double on a show called Smallville for
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Speaker 2: many years, and my earlier in my late twenties, early
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Speaker 2: or late teens, early twenties, I struggled a lot with
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Speaker 2: just anxiety and body dysmorphia and disordered eating and just
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Speaker 2: not feeling like joyful, and I tried so many things
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Speaker 2: to try and help myself. I was reading all of
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Speaker 2: the books, you know, doing a lot of different therapies
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Speaker 2: and traditional methods, and nothing was really like getting it.
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Speaker 2: I always felt like I had this like tension in
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Speaker 2: my body that I couldn't get to. So I was
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Speaker 2: reading the book E Prey Love one day and she
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Speaker 2: was talking about how she went to Bali and she
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Speaker 2: found this medicine man, and I thought to myself, that's
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Speaker 2: exactly what I'm going to do. So I ended up
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Speaker 2: booking a one way ticket to Bali. Found breath work
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Speaker 2: in Bali, and as soon as I went into this
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Speaker 2: breathwork class, the teacher came up to me and he goes,
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Speaker 2: are you ready to go on the right of your life?
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Speaker 2: And I went, what do you mean? He goes, You're
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Speaker 2: going to experience the entire range of human emotion. He's like,
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Speaker 2: you're going to experience joy and bliss and love and connection,
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Speaker 2: and you're going to shut away and release anything in
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Speaker 2: your body that is stuck and feel stagnant. And I
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Speaker 2: thought to myself, dude, I've been trying to do that
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Speaker 2: for years and I can't. But like, okay, really. So
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Speaker 2: I ended up doing this class and after the breathwork
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Speaker 2: was in it was a three hour class, it kind
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Speaker 2: of felt like fifteen minutes because time and space just
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Speaker 2: kind of collapsed when when you're in that phase. And
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Speaker 2: I woke up from that experience and I was like,
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Speaker 2: wait a second, why does the whole world not know
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Speaker 2: that we are the drug? Why does the whole world
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Speaker 2: not know that we can heal our bodies through our breath?
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Speaker 2: What the heck? And I just remember going home that
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Speaker 2: night and googling what is breath work and who were
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Speaker 2: like the top breath work people. And this was fifteen
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Speaker 2: years ago, and I just studied and studied and studied
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Speaker 2: and healed myself within three months and then just went
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Speaker 2: on to start incorporating it and teaching it at my
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Speaker 2: retreats and various things, and just I just became obsessed
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Speaker 2: with the work and obsessed with it. So here we
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Speaker 2: are fifteen years later, and I started Pause in twenty seventeen,
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Speaker 2: and the mission of Pause is to make emotional suffering
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Speaker 2: optional by teaching people how to use their breath to
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Speaker 2: heal their bodies.
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Speaker 1: Okay, go back to that moment where that instructors like
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Speaker 1: are you ready to go on the right, So give
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Speaker 1: us something. What the hell did you experience?
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Speaker 2: So was it?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: So, when we do breath work in a very continual,
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Speaker 2: conscious way, like I'll give you an examples, breathing into
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Speaker 2: the belly, up into the chest, through the mouth, it circulates.
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Speaker 2: When we do that, what we're doing in that act
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Speaker 2: is we are mitigating the response of the survival strategies.
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Speaker 2: When we mitigate the response of the survival strategies, we're
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Speaker 2: releasing the hyper vigilant, go go go mind and we're
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Speaker 2: actually charging the energy up in the body, which is
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Speaker 2: allowing us to essentially live more from our body than
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Speaker 2: our mind. And when we live from our body, we
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Speaker 2: live from our hearts. When we live from this powerful energy,
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Speaker 2: we shift the perspective of life right. And so whether
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Speaker 2: it's a minute of breath work, whether it's three hours
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Speaker 2: of breath work, it's going to have an impact on
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Speaker 2: the way you view life. Because if we are not breathing,
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Speaker 2: and our breath patterns are irregular and they're shallow, and
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Speaker 2: we're holding our breath and then we're like panting or
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Speaker 2: whatever it is. If we're doing that, then our breath
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Speaker 2: like we're not giving ourselves an opportunity to really breathe
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Speaker 2: in the quality that is available to us. So every
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Speaker 2: single emotion has a corresponding breath pattern. There's a breath
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Speaker 2: pattern for relaxation, just like there's a breath pattern for anxiety, right, right, right,
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Speaker 2: So if we can, rather than having our emotion dictate
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Speaker 2: our breath, we dictate our breath, which then dictates the emotion.
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Speaker 1: I love it. I can feel it. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: just so funny. I said to my friend the other
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Speaker 1: night yesterday, Actually, I said, I just want to be
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Speaker 1: in a place where I can relax and feel relaxed
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Speaker 1: and exactly have that feeling of exhalation and know that
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Speaker 1: everything's okay. And definitely I'm not there, and I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of people where be there wish they could
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Speaker 1: have that control. That's amazing.
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Speaker 2: You know what it is, dude, It's safety. When the body,
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Speaker 2: when the nervous system feels safe, then everything says okay,
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Speaker 2: we can relax. We don't have to be hypervigilant. The
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Speaker 2: email that we get, the thing that goes wrong, it
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Speaker 2: doesn't have an impact on our sense of safety. But
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Speaker 2: when we don't have that internal sense of safety, we're
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Speaker 2: looking for safety in our external world. So we're going
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Speaker 2: to be like, Okay, as long as everything on the
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Speaker 2: outside is copathetic and smooth and fine, and our bank
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Speaker 2: is fine, bank balance is fine, and our clients are fine,
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Speaker 2: and this is fine, then I'll be fine. And that's
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Speaker 2: a very dangerous place to because we live in an
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Speaker 2: uncertain world, like right now, in my world, I can
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Speaker 2: tell you one hundred things that are going amazing, and
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Speaker 2: I can tell you one hundred things that suck. And
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Speaker 2: that's just the way it is, all the time, right,
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Speaker 2: no matter what. And so if my safety is reliant
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Speaker 2: and dependent on my world, on this human experience, it's
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Speaker 2: going to feel like a crazy wild ride. But if
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Speaker 2: I learned the practices to establish that felt sense of safety,
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Speaker 2: that internal connection to go you are safe no matter what,
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Speaker 2: then the email or the bank balance or the state
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Speaker 2: of the world, those things are going to be like Okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm observing that, that's what it is, but it's not
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Speaker 2: having an impact on my way of being.
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Speaker 1: So you had that seminal amazing experience in Bali, How
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Speaker 1: did it impact you moving forward? Did you you talked
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Speaker 1: about Okay, I gotta find out more. But in terms
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Speaker 1: of what were you saying to yourself when you walked
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Speaker 1: out of there? How is this different for you?
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Speaker 2: Great question? Well, I think the first thing is I
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Speaker 2: was really able to feel my intuition. I was really
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Speaker 2: able to feel the visceral yes in my body and
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Speaker 2: the visceral no. I knew exactly how to clear away
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Speaker 2: fear within three minutes or less, so it didn't spin
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Speaker 2: and gain momentum and get all crazy. Because like, once
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Speaker 2: fear gets a hold of us, we create this feedback
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Speaker 2: leap where we feel the energy of fear in the body,
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Speaker 2: and then the mind gets a hold of it, and
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Speaker 2: then it activates more energy in the body, and then
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Speaker 2: the mind gets a hold of it again, and it
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Speaker 2: just creates this momentum in the wrong direction, which puts
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Speaker 2: us in a state of depression, severe anxiety, doomsday, all
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Speaker 2: the kind of thing. Right, Whereas if we feel the
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Speaker 2: initial onset of fear and we're just with it and
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Speaker 2: we feel it fully right, it takes ninety seconds for
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Speaker 2: an emotion and to shift when we feel it. But
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Speaker 2: if we fight it, if we resist it, if we
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Speaker 2: ignore it, if we suppress it, then it's going to
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Speaker 2: kick on the energy of the mind and create that
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Speaker 2: negative feedback loop. So we can put that in the
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Speaker 2: opposite direction, where we go, Okay, I feel the fear,
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Speaker 2: Let me sit with it for ninety seconds, let me
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Speaker 2: breathe into it, let me fully feel it, and then
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Speaker 2: let me choose how I actually want to feel peace, joy, bliss,
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Speaker 2: whatever that is. And the mind has The mind's amazing.
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Speaker 2: We just need to babysit it.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: So if I'm like, okay, mind, I desire to feel joy,
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Speaker 2: show me the visuals give me things to feel joyful about. Right.
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Speaker 2: So when I do that, immediately I can feel, Oh,
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Speaker 2: I'm telling my mind to feel joy, which has an
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Speaker 2: impact on my body. Now I'm like, okay, mind, because
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Speaker 2: you're intelligent, show me things that are joyful.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: It'll show me. You know, I had to sleep over
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Speaker 2: with my niece the other day and it was just
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Speaker 2: like so amazing to be with her. It'll It'll show
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Speaker 2: me me surfing. I love surfing. It'll show me me
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Speaker 2: with my fiance last night when we were just winding
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Speaker 2: down in the sauna and just feeling so grateful that
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Speaker 2: we have this beautiful sauna that we get to use
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Speaker 2: before beat it. It'll show me Wow, the thousands of
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Speaker 2: people that I've trained to become breathwork facilitators. That brings
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Speaker 2: me so much joy, right seeing them out in the
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Speaker 2: world doing their thing that you know, like the my
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Speaker 2: fridge full of nice food, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: It's just like, Okay, well, immediately I can hijack that
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Speaker 2: with intentionality, and I could take that fear. I could
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Speaker 2: feel it for ninety seconds, shift it into another emotion
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Speaker 2: and set myself on a completely different trajectory. But the
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Speaker 2: problem is we don't. We forget that we're that powerful.
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Speaker 2: So we're like, oh, I feel fear. Okay, let me
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Speaker 2: grab my phone and let me find nine thousand other
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Speaker 2: things to feel fear for a little bit. Oh my god,
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Speaker 2: this state of the world, Oh my god, this and like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: are those real things? The other real things? But they're
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Speaker 2: also like, are you in a im media danger? No,
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Speaker 2: you're not. So Like energy is our most powerful thing
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Speaker 2: that we have, and when we can learn to cultivate, create,
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Speaker 2: transmit our energy, we realize that we're so much more
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Speaker 2: in control than we think. We can't control anything outside
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Speaker 2: of us. I can't control if a client sends me
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Speaker 2: a shitty email, or if someone hates on me on
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Speaker 2: my YouTube video where you know, they're like, oh, that
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Speaker 2: podcast with you and guys sucked. You guys suck. Okay,
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Speaker 2: Well we can't control that, right, but I can. I
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Speaker 2: can absolutely control my state. I can absolutely control my state. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I hope that's helpful.
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Speaker 1: That's amazing. So from that first class that you had
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Speaker 1: to now, yeah, was the process for you owning what
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Speaker 1: you just said and honoring what you just said? Was that?
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Speaker 1: Did that come naturally for you?
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Speaker 2: No? Nothing comes naturally to me. I feel I feel
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Speaker 2: like I have to work very hard at being happy
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Speaker 2: until it was harder before. So when I first started,
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Speaker 2: I had to really show up for myself in big ways.
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Speaker 2: I had to be so committed to my mental health.
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Speaker 2: I had to be so diligent with my practices, even
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Speaker 2: simple things like getting enough sleep, drinking enough water, eating
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Speaker 2: enough food. Like right, But it's like I work hard
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Speaker 2: to make my life easy and I still do that now,
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Speaker 2: Like I work hard to make my life easy, Like
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Speaker 2: I don't let myself slip into patterns that I know
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Speaker 2: we're going to drive me into states of anxiety. You know,
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Speaker 2: It's like life is hard. Period, choose your herd Okay,
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Speaker 2: so I choose to do the hard thing up front
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Speaker 2: to make the rest of my life easy. Lots of
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Speaker 2: the world does the easy thing, so that therefore their
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Speaker 2: life is hard. It's all a choice. Everything's a choice.
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Speaker 1: From what you're saying, it sounds like breath work and
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Speaker 1: want to define that. But yeah, breath work sounds like
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Speaker 1: it's the foundation in a sense of what we do,
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Speaker 1: of who we are.
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Speaker 2: I believe that is the truth. You know, I say
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Speaker 2: to my client's a lot the quality of your life
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Speaker 2: comes down to the quality of your breath. If you're
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Speaker 2: being intentional with this one thing that we've been given
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Speaker 2: to regulate our nervousessm and you're intentional about that, you're
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Speaker 2: going to have a good time. But if you forget
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Speaker 2: that you have that power, that's going to be hard.
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Speaker 1: So how would you define breath.
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Speaker 2: Work continual conscious breathing?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, so it's like typically we're not conscious breathers, right,
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Speaker 2: We're just we're just letting our breath and our body
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Speaker 2: do the work. And again, our breath is going to
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Speaker 2: latch onto our emotional patterns. Well, how many different emotions
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Speaker 2: do we feel in a day? Our breath's going to
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Speaker 2: be all over with well, if we are, if we're
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Speaker 2: being aware of our breath as we're doing simple things,
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Speaker 2: as we're driving, as we're watching TV, as we're on
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Speaker 2: a plane, as we're walking through the airport, if we're
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Speaker 2: going for a walk, and we're just like, you know what,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to spend time to really be aware of
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Speaker 2: my breath patterns right now to shift my emotionality. We're
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Speaker 2: going to experience life in a completely different way. And
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Speaker 2: so breathwork is essentially just being aware of breath. There's
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Speaker 2: two types of breath work. There's breath work for relaxation
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Speaker 2: and then there's breath work for transformation. So breath work
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Speaker 2: for relaxation is kind of what I just talked about.
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Speaker 2: It's about being aware of your breath, being conscious of
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Speaker 2: your breath when you are at your desk, when you're driving,
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Speaker 2: when you're going for a walk, when you're doing the dishes,
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Speaker 2: when you're putting the kids to bed, when you're grocery shop.
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Speaker 2: It's just being a wary breath and intentionally shifting your
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Speaker 2: breath patterns to create more relaxation. Breathwork for transformation is
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Speaker 2: when you are lying down and it is for longer
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Speaker 2: than eight minutes, So it's continual conscious breathing for longer
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Speaker 2: than eight minutes. After eight minutes, we in our brain
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Speaker 2: we shift into a different uh state of consciousness where
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Speaker 2: our identification with the reality world begins to fade a
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Speaker 2: little bit and our connection to our inner world begins
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Speaker 2: to amplify.
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Speaker 1: So that oh, yeah, God, when you say transformation, what
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Speaker 1: do you mean?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, The breath then goes deeper and we're able to
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Speaker 2: clear a lot of trauma that's stuck in our bodies. So,
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Speaker 2: I don't know if your audience or you have seen
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Speaker 2: like breathwork videos of people and they're shaking and they're
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Speaker 2: screaming and they're moving. It's like that is energy that
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Speaker 2: is leaving the body to be transmuted into something else,
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Speaker 2: and that's transformation. Right, So many of us are emotionally coated.
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Speaker 2: We're walking around with all of this energy, all of
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Speaker 2: this trapped trauma in our body, and we don't know
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Speaker 2: how to let it go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Right, It's like we have trauma starts when we're in
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Speaker 2: the womb. Right, we have womb trauma. We've got birth trauma,
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Speaker 2: we got we got lots of trauma until we're about
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Speaker 2: seven seven is when we have a little bit more
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Speaker 2: discernment to go. That's not true, right, there's a little
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Speaker 2: bit more discernment there, but still it's like our brains
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Speaker 2: aren't fully developed until we're like twenty five, you know.
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Speaker 2: And so there's a lot of like stuck story, stuck energy,
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Speaker 2: stuck identity, just stuckness in these bodies, and talking about
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Speaker 2: it doesn't heal it. We have to use somatic practices
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Speaker 2: like breath work to get it out.
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Speaker 1: Wow. All right, so let's talk about what inspired you
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Speaker 1: to create pause.
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Speaker 2: I was driving down the highway from Eli Edah, San
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Speaker 2: Diego in twenty seventeen, and the company that I started
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Speaker 2: before this one was called Hungry for Happiness. So we
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Speaker 2: helped women who struggle with emotional eating and body image issues.
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Speaker 2: I think you can guess why now based on my story.
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Speaker 2: And I was just feeling a little dry talking about
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Speaker 2: that all the time. And I was like every time
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Speaker 2: I taught breath work, every time I took it to retreat,
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Speaker 2: every time I taught, like people were like, what this
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Speaker 2: is amazing, Oh my god. And I just had this
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Speaker 2: like very clear. I don't know if it was a
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Speaker 2: download or a note from God or whatever. But it
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Speaker 2: just was just like so clear as I was driving
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Speaker 2: on that highway, you need to teach the world to breathe.
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Speaker 2: It just was that message was just clear as day,
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Speaker 2: as if someone was sitting in my passenger seat and
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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that sounds great. So and the like
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Speaker 2: the next thing was it's called pause breathwork. It just
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Speaker 2: clear as day. There was no like, it was just
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Speaker 2: so clear. You know when you get those messages and
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Speaker 2: it's just clear. And so that was the moment that
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Speaker 2: it started. And I just kept listening to the inspiration
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Speaker 2: and listening to the hunches, and you know, it's like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: we're going to start with doing a facilitator training, and
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Speaker 2: then we're going to build this app, and then we're
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Speaker 2: going to do international retreats, and then we're going to
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Speaker 2: do big love events. And for the last seven eight
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Speaker 2: years now, that's what we've been doing, and we've trained
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Speaker 2: and certified thousands of people to become breathwork facilitators in
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Speaker 2: a very trauma informed way. We have tens of thousands
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Speaker 2: of people use who use our app. It's been it's
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Speaker 2: just been a really beautiful journey.
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Speaker 1: The breath work, the transformative breath work are we talking about. Look,
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Speaker 1: when you're laying down and you're doing that for eight minutes,
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Speaker 1: you're starting to what.
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Speaker 2: Almost like hallucinate a little bit. Okay, the reason why
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Speaker 2: we're going into an alternative consciousness is because our survival
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Speaker 2: strategies are quieting down. And when our survival strategies quiet down,
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Speaker 2: we don't have as much judgment, we don't have as
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Speaker 2: much fear, we don't have as much We call them
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Speaker 2: at pause protectors. There's parts of us that protect us.
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Speaker 2: You know, we have the judge or who protects us.
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Speaker 2: We have the pessimists who judges us. We have the
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Speaker 2: victim who or who protects us. We have all these
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Speaker 2: different parts of us. Those parts kind of dissolve a
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Speaker 2: little bit as we're doing it and we're able to
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Speaker 2: get into our truth.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. We remind everyone speaking with Samantha Sclly
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Speaker 1: of Pause Breathwork and that that Pause Breathwork dot com.
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Speaker 1: So I want to talk about the facilitated trainings, But
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Speaker 1: in addition to that, do you just offer breathwork trainings
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Speaker 1: for people?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? We have, Yeah, we have a lot of we do.
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Speaker 2: We do breathwork retreats where people can come and learn.
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Speaker 2: We have our breathwork app so people can do it
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Speaker 2: in the comfort of their own home. It's just Pause
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Speaker 2: Breathwork on Android and iOS. We have breathwork courses that
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Speaker 2: people can learn about breathwork, but the main thing that
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Speaker 2: we do is we teach people to become breathwork facilitators.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about that. What is that? When
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Speaker 1: is that? Who's it for?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is for anyone who is currently supporting people
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Speaker 2: and want to take their clients deeper. And so we
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Speaker 2: have therapists, doctors, chiropractors, coaches, wellness coaches, nurses, teachers like
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Speaker 2: people who are in service of other people and they
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Speaker 2: want to add a tool to their tool belt to
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Speaker 2: get their clients better results and ultimately make their work
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Speaker 2: more fulfilling. And so we offer that people can join
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Speaker 2: that at any time. It's a six month program. It's
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Speaker 2: completely trauma informed, it's completely accredited, and people go through
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Speaker 2: not only their own personal development journey as they are
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Speaker 2: learning it, but then they're also learning the tools, the
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Speaker 2: frameworks of the strategies to be able to host these
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Speaker 2: trauma informed breathwork sessions to get people really deep, profound
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Speaker 2: and beautiful transformation, and so I absolutely love running it.
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Speaker 2: I get to train and mentor a lot of people
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Speaker 2: in this work, and we've been doing it for eight
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Speaker 2: years now and it's been Yeah, it's been amazing.
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Speaker 1: What has changed for you personally? You talked about earlier
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Speaker 1: on you had tried everything, going through a lot of
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Speaker 1: different treatments, and when you found breath Work, it just
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Speaker 1: spoke to you in a sense, how what has your
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Speaker 1: arc been in terms of your identity You're feeling about yourself,
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Speaker 1: how you quote unquote worked through healing and so forth.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's kind of like the classic archetype
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Speaker 2: in a movie, where do you have You have the hero,
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Speaker 2: you have the victim, you have the villain, and you
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Speaker 2: have the guide, right, And I think for so much
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Speaker 2: of my life I lived it as the victim of like, oh,
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Speaker 2: I feel like this and the world sucks and I
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Speaker 2: can't get out of this and no one can help me.
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Speaker 2: And then when I discovered breath Work, I realized that
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Speaker 2: I could be the hero of my own story, and
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Speaker 2: I can act when I feel anxious and I feel
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Speaker 2: like the world's criminally that's a temporary state, and I
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Speaker 2: know exactly how to get myself out of it. It's
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Speaker 2: just having the discipline to actually choose that from myself
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Speaker 2: and having the self love to be to get myself
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Speaker 2: out of the position and release all the stories in
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Speaker 2: my head of you don't have time, you can't do that.
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Speaker 2: It's like, yes, we do. We always have time to
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Speaker 2: do this. And then it's kind of shifting it from
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Speaker 2: the hero to then the guide, being able to guide
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Speaker 2: other people into their greatness. And I think those two
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Speaker 2: things bring a lot of fulfillment and a lot of
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Speaker 2: meaning to life. Is being the hero of your own story,
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Speaker 2: and then once you really get that, then helping others,
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Speaker 2: then guiding others to be the hero of their own stories.
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Speaker 1: I am Samantha, You're doing it. I love it.
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Speaker 2: I just this.
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Speaker 1: It's so crazy. It's like, you know, I mean, I'm
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Speaker 1: just so glad I got to meet you. I didn't
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Speaker 1: know you, you know, and it's like you're just so
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Speaker 1: freakin inspiring. I love it really Yeah Jesus, all right,
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Speaker 1: So when's your next training coming up? How come people
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Speaker 1: find out?
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Speaker 2: People can literally start anytime. So for those people who
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Speaker 2: feel called Podsbreathwork dot Com slash Facilitator is where you
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Speaker 2: can apply for that training. I'm also very active on
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Speaker 2: Instagram at Samantha Kelly if you want to come and
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Speaker 2: say hi and let me know that you found me
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Speaker 2: from this podcast. I love connecting with people over there,
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Speaker 2: and yeah, come join the world and just feel into
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Speaker 2: it and see what's there for you.
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Speaker 1: Awesome, Samantha, thank you so much for being here. Love
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Speaker 1: to have you back. I've just yeah, really really inspired
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Speaker 1: about what you do and we'll.
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Speaker 2: Be in touch absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I think having to take care
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Speaker 2: Many common