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- 0:00So can being with a narcissist turn you into a narcissist?
- 0:05That's what we're talking about today, y'all.
- 0:08If you're new here, my name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:09I'm a clinically diagnosed narcissist and welcome to
- 0:11another episode of The Narcissist Code.
- 0:30Boom. Welcome back folks, welcome
- 0:32back, welcome back. So yes, can Bean with a
- 0:35narcissist turn you into a narcissist?
- 0:40Like can you can you what what happens?
- 0:42Is this possible? Because this is what I hear so
- 0:44much from people in toxic relationships.
- 0:48You know, in my support group called the mental healers.
- 0:51Check the Ling out in my bio and also do my one-on-one coaching.
- 0:55I hear this a lot Lee. I think I'm the narcissist.
- 0:57I've been with this person so long that I think I might be the
- 1:00narcissist now or I might be turning it into one.
- 1:02I never act like this before, but now I'm acting like them.
- 1:06I act a lot like them. My behaviors has changed.
- 1:08I feel like I'm going crazy. You know, this literally
- 1:11happened the other night in my in my support group on our
- 1:14weekly zoom meetings. This literally happened the
- 1:16other night like a woman. She started crying because she
- 1:19felt like she was going crazy because now she felt like the
- 1:21narcissist because she felt like her behaviors have shit that she
- 1:24felt like she was starting to display some toxic traits.
- 1:26So can't be with a narcissist turn you into a full-fledged
- 1:30narcissist? No, it can't turn you into a
- 1:33full-fledged narcissist narcissism.
- 1:35You know the, the person I did is well, you can't get that from
- 1:37being with a narcissist. But can you start acting
- 1:40narcissistic? Yes, you can.
- 1:46You can absolutely start to act narcissistic from being in a
- 1:49toxic relationship with a narcissist for long enough.
- 1:51Like it's not like a you can't become a full-fledged like
- 1:55narcissist. Like say you're not going to
- 1:57have the personality disorder. You not like say it's not like
- 2:00being bit by a vampire. I know a lot of people consider
- 2:03narcissists emotional vampires like like like you don't have
- 2:05vampires bite you. And then if they don't take you,
- 2:09if they don't, if they don't take you up here out, if they
- 2:11don't alive you, you become a vampire.
- 2:14Yeah. It's not like that.
- 2:15You won't become a vampire. Like they don't bite you on the
- 2:18neck and then you become a narcissist.
- 2:20It doesn't work that way. It doesn't transfer that way.
- 2:22It's just like you start acting like them to protect yourself
- 2:26from them. You might.
- 2:29Yeah, you might. Like honesty might have been the
- 2:31best policy for you for a long time.
- 2:34And then you picked up what they call narcissistic fleas.
- 2:39You know, narcissistic fleas. Or when you pick up the traits
- 2:42from a narcissist, you start acting like them.
- 2:44So you might have honesty might have been the best policy for
- 2:47you for the most of your life, right?
- 2:49You might have been honest. What have got honest Abe?
- 2:53You know, I mean, you might have had honesty is your best policy
- 2:55for the entire for most of your life, but now you've been around
- 2:59this lying manipulator for a year, two years, 10 years, 20
- 3:04years, and now you'd be lying all the time.
- 3:07You catch your like you'd be catching yourself in a lot like
- 3:09lying becomes second nature to you now because you feel like
- 3:12you can't tell this person the truth because the truth gets you
- 3:14hurt in these relationships. If I tell them that I, you know,
- 3:17what happened, they're going to they might beat me.
- 3:20They might, you know, I might. Some some things might happen to
- 3:22me. So it's just like in your mind,
- 3:25no, you don't want to deal with it.
- 3:26You don't want to battle that. You don't want to have this,
- 3:28this be a part of you, right? You don't want to be a part like
- 3:32so you lie, you become a manipulator.
- 3:35Sometimes you pick up these traits from being around them so
- 3:37long because now it's the fence mechanism.
- 3:40You know, you ever hear the phrase when people say y'all
- 3:42been together so long, y'all start to look alike.
- 3:45The same thing applies to behaviors.
- 3:47You have been around this person so much that you might start
- 3:51picking up on their behaviors. You know what I mean?
- 3:53Some people in these relationships, I'm just telling
- 3:55you and I know people, this is not an excuse for cheating, but
- 3:57some people start to cheat. You start to emotionally
- 4:00disconnect from your partner and you started like I've been
- 4:02cheating on 20 times and I'm still with this person that made
- 4:05me feel like it's my fault. So now I cheated.
- 4:07Now I feel like the narcissist 20 years in, I've cheated.
- 4:11I'm telling you, you start to act like them, you start to
- 4:17behave like them and it could be debilitating when you think you
- 4:20are the narcissist, when you think you are the narcissist, it
- 4:23can absolutely be like a mentally self destructing, a
- 4:26mentally destructive thing that you, when you start thinking
- 4:30that you are the narcissist, you'd be like, man, damn, I'm
- 4:32toxic. I I need to go to therapy, I
- 4:34need to go get help. I feel like I'm going crazy.
- 4:36I need to go get medicated and guess what happens?
- 4:39If somehow they convinced you that you are the narcissist in
- 4:43this situation, guess what happens?
- 4:45You end up going to therapy and they don't.
- 4:48You end up going to therapy thinking that you're toxic and
- 4:52they don't. And guess what happens?
- 4:53The fact that you're in therapy in their minds gives them an
- 4:56excuse to tell people like, hey, my partner is crazy.
- 4:59My, my ex is crazy. My this is crazy.
- 5:02You see what I'm saying? Because you're the one in
- 5:03therapy, You're the one in therapy and whatnot.
- 5:07So it happens in these spaces to so many people and I just want
- 5:13y'all to win. Like I'll be wanting y'all to
- 5:14win so damn bad. It happens in these spaces that
- 5:17people go to therapy thinking that they are the narcissist and
- 5:19end up like, wait, did you tell your story to the therapist?
- 5:23You tell the truth to the therapist and the therapist.
- 5:25Like what you say? What happened?
- 5:28And yeah, even like I've had one on ones before with people.
- 5:30I have a coaching session with people before what they say.
- 5:33Lee, I think I'm a narcissist. I just feel like I'm going
- 5:35crazy. I don't want to be this way.
- 5:37You are self aware narcissist. Can you teach me how to be self
- 5:39aware? I'm like, OK, tell me the truth
- 5:41about what's going on. How we how did we get here?
- 5:43Well, my partner has been cheated on me and I'm like, OK.
- 5:51And what else? Well, my partner's been cheating
- 5:53on me and I went through their phone.
- 5:57I hired a private investigator because they've been like, I
- 5:59feel like they've been lying to me and I hired a private
- 6:02investigator. I went through their phone.
- 6:04I just been, I've been losing it.
- 6:06And when I caught them, the private investigator found out.
- 6:09I showed them the proof and they told me that I was a stalker.
- 6:14They told me that I'm crazy for going through their emails and
- 6:17going through their phone and stuff like that.
- 6:19They told me that I'm narcissistic for doing that.
- 6:21I was like, wait, what? But they were cheating.
- 6:25Were they cheating? Yes.
- 6:28Oh, how do they make you a nurses?
- 6:31Because I went through their phone.
- 6:32I'm like, and I've been lying to them about, you know, they asked
- 6:38me, did I hire a private investigator or did I, what did
- 6:41I spend this money on? I lied about what I spent the
- 6:43money on. It was really a private
- 6:45investigator. I told him it was an accountant
- 6:46or whatever to help us manage our money better.
- 6:49So I'm a liar and I'm a stalker. I was like, oh, oh, Yikes.
- 6:58I think we need to have another conversation.
- 7:00And they were like, what are you talking about?
- 7:01Like you had a reason to be suspicious.
- 7:05Like you went through their phone because you didn't trust
- 7:07them. And of course they lied to you
- 7:08about what you found on their phone.
- 7:10And you, you feel like you were going crazy, so you hired a
- 7:13private investigator to validate you.
- 7:14You got their validation. And they made you feel like a
- 7:16stalker for going for doing that.
- 7:19They made you feel like you're going crazy by doing that.
- 7:20So wait, I'm not a narcissist for going through their phone?
- 7:23No, I'm not a narcissist behind a property investigator, even
- 7:27though they were cheating and I knew that they were cheating
- 7:29from the when I went through their phone.
- 7:30No, so I'm not a stalker. I'm not controlling for asking
- 7:34them what they are at 2:30 in the morning, why they come home
- 7:36so late. No.
- 7:39So what are you saying, Lee? I'm not saying your partner is
- 7:43the narcissist, but that's what narcissist do.
- 7:47They convince the other person they're narcissistic and they
- 7:50were like wait what? No I'm like yes no, yes, no,
- 7:58yes. I've helped people.
- 8:01Y'all don't understand. I mean people I've helped
- 8:02breakthrough those situations right there when they're feeling
- 8:05lost and they're feeling hurt and they're feeling so confused
- 8:08like they're feeling and stuff right there.
- 8:12That's what I've heard. That's the type of stuff that be
- 8:14going on right there. That's the type of stuff that
- 8:16people battle. Like the narcissist convinces
- 8:19you that you're a narcissist for holding them accountable for
- 8:22their narcissism. It's crazy.
- 8:24Yeah, it's insane. You're holding them accountable.
- 8:27They try to gaslight you, you, you.
- 8:29You go to the next level of accountability.
- 8:31They try to manipulate you. They convince you that you're a
- 8:33narcissist. So can you start to think that
- 8:35you're a narcissist? Yes.
- 8:37Can they absolutely turn you into a full-fledged narcissist?
- 8:39I don't think so. I think it's like you can pick
- 8:41up some traits, you can pick up some trash.
- 8:44You know, when fleas bite you, they they leave bucks, you start
- 8:47to itch. You might be itching, you might
- 8:49have a little itch right here. You might have a little toxic
- 8:52itch from toxic itch from dealing with this narcissistic
- 8:56person. But that's how it goes.
- 8:57The longer you are in this relationship, the more you can
- 9:00start to act like them, the more you can feel like you're turning
- 9:02into them. You know, getting away from them
- 9:05or you know not not everybody leaves the relationship.
- 9:07So leave. What if we don't want to leave?
- 9:09How can we get them get get away from these fleas?
- 9:11How can we stop acting like them?
- 9:13Give yourself some space from them.
- 9:15I'm not telling you to get separated, but I'm telling you
- 9:16to do something throughout the day for yourself to to ground
- 9:20yourself get grounded. I talk about this in my my
- 9:23support groups a lot. Getting grounded, going outside
- 9:26when you feeling gas, like you feeling confused, take your
- 9:29shoes off, go outside and literally touch the pavement.
- 9:32I know somebody, I don't live around the grass.
- 9:34If you have some grassy areas, go put your foot in the grass,
- 9:37grip the grass with your toes, close your eyes and take a deep
- 9:40breath. Let the sun or the rain or
- 9:41whatever's outside hit you. Ground yourself like you're
- 9:44reading right now. When you have your feet
- 9:46connecting directly to the ground with no shoes on, it
- 9:49helps you connect to the earth. It helps ground you, helps you
- 9:52feel rooted and rooted in reality.
- 9:55You want to be rooted in reality, narcissistic people,
- 9:58your reality. You being rooted in reality
- 10:00doesn't benefit a narcissist. Y'all let's keep it high.
- 10:03You being rooted in reality doesn't benefit them in any way.
- 10:06It benefits them for you to be confused.
- 10:08It benefits them to think that you are the narcissist.
- 10:10It benefits them for you to feel like you turned into them, like
- 10:14you're worse than them. Right?
- 10:17And the crazy thing about it is sometimes you might look worse
- 10:19than them when you saw the act like them.
- 10:20So now you take it to the next level.
- 10:22They are emotionally abuse. Let's just say they're
- 10:24emotionally abusive to you, right?
- 10:27You start act like him, you pick up on their trace and behaviors
- 10:29and guess what happens? You take it to the next level.
- 10:31They they trigger you and you haul off and hit them.
- 10:35Now you, now you look, now you look like a physical abuser.
- 10:38I'm not saying you are. I'm just saying you look
- 10:40physically abusive. Now that's react.
- 10:41That could be reactive abuse because you're reacting to a
- 10:43trigger. They've triggered you.
- 10:45Now you react to them. They've been poking you and
- 10:47pride of you. Now you react to them.
- 10:48Now you look like the abuser. Now you feel like the
- 10:50narcissist. Lately I think I'm a narcissist
- 10:51because I've been swinging on. I've been throwing stuff at
- 10:53them. Dig deeper y'all dig deeper
- 10:57beneath the level like this is you don't like surface level
- 11:00narcissism. You want to dig beneath the
- 11:01level you got the you have a shovel.
- 11:03These channels like mine are in other other helpful channels out
- 11:08there. These channels are helping dig
- 11:11beneath the surface. These channels help you dig
- 11:13deeper into yourself, help you become rooted in reality.
- 11:18They help you understand what you're going through, what
- 11:20you've been through, and they help you give what I call, I
- 11:23know I'm going to say a narcissistic flea bath, right?
- 11:27Because the more you get away from them, the more you become
- 11:29rooted in reality. It's like you give yourself a
- 11:32flea bath and the fleas start jumping off of you on their own
- 11:35like that, like these that these channels are like a flea collar
- 11:39like you were, you know, like a flea collar around your neck.
- 11:42This this is these channels are, are are doing right here, right?
- 11:47These channels help you put that flea collar on your neck and
- 11:50help the fleas bounce off of it, help you maintain who you
- 11:54actually are and not be more like them to survive.
- 11:57You know, you become you get rooted in reality, you become
- 12:00more like yourself. You become more genuine to
- 12:02yourself and things like that. Yeah, so it cannot turn you into
- 12:05a full-fledged narcissist, but you can pick up some traits.
- 12:08You can start to look narcissistic.
- 12:10I'm telling you, you want to do that.
- 12:12When you once you started to act like this, you don't want to
- 12:14keep going into those behaviors. You want to just let me stop
- 12:17doing this. I got to be me.
- 12:20You have to be you being you is the more powerful.
- 12:22It's way more powerful to be in becoming them to protect
- 12:24yourself against them. Keep learning.
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