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A chat about Germany with Peter Weis of Bulinews · Into the Channel ⚽️ A Podcast Primarily About Women's Football

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I am host Dino de Suspicious and I am joined by a returning guest
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and my coast Mr. Grant Angle. What's up, man?
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I'm feeling fantastic, buddy, And that's because our guest
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today is making his second appearance on the show.
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Back by popular demand. He's been covering football for
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more than 20 years. He's covered every major women's
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international tournament since 2011.
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Some people call him Vice. Some people call him Vice City.
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We call him ITC's Frown Bundes trainer.
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And you can also call him a fantastic reporter from
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bullynews.com. Please welcome back to the
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program Peter Vice. A pleasure to be here,
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gentlemen. I absolutely don't know if I can
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live up to that introduction. Thank you so much for the great
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coverage over the course of this fantastic tournament.
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I've enjoyed watching it very much and I've very much happy to
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be back with you and honored to be back with you today.
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A warm congratulations by the way for defeating my country in
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the semi finals yet again and making it to the gold medal
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match. I wish you all the best of luck
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and we'll get into the nitty gritty of that I suppose quite
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soon. Awesome.
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Well, I appreciate that. You know, Grant and I dug deep
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out there, put in a full 90 plus, gave it our all and here
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we are. We're in the gold medal match.
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We made it. And no, no pressure, Visey, but
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you're now at the top of the leaderboard, right alongside a
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CL2 Filey and zones Cameron Pope, as most appearances on the
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show. No pressure.
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Not at all, gentlemen. It's a it's an absolute
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pleasure, an absolute pleasure. As well.
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Thanks again for joining us. I usually ask Grant here where
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we want to get started, but let's skirt around that.
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Let's just say yesterday's action, USA one, Germany nil.
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The sort of knock down drag out needed 120 plus to kind of get
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all the way through that one. So Peter, what was your biggest
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take away from yesterday's match?
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Well, the attendance figures were not necessarily what we
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might have hoped for the German women in their send off match.
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Since we've last spoken, the German women have played two
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European qualifiers plus the Olympics matches.
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They got 40,000 in Hanover when they beat Austria.
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I think what was it, 15,000 in Marseille yesterday.
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So not much. But thanks to that I heard host
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Kubek on the pitch shouting at his medals, screaming.
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Genozo knocked us. This is Genozo Vita Vita Vita
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Vita, 73 year old man screaming at his metals and what will be
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of course his penultimate match in charge of the German women's
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national team. After that, he's surely going to
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retire at the age of 73. Sometimes in German football you
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get a fleet hem Funko or something like this who's
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prepared to keep coaching into his late 70s.
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But him screaming at the metals, giving Nicole on Yomi a hug
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after an excellent tackle near the end of the first half, that
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was my biggest take away from this.
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I think the Metals did not deliver a disappointing match in
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this tournament from my perspective and that includes
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the 14 defeat to the USA in the group phase.
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I think the scoreline was rather misleading in that case.
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They of course gave it their all.
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They left it all on the pitch. We were missing some players due
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to hard luck, injury and also general exhaustion.
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Tournament football is a rough, rough beast, but they have
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fulfilled our expectations. They made the semi finals in any
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tournament that has a third place playoff.
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That means we get maximum matches and the maximum amount
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of chances to wave our German flags.
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So I'm quite satisfied. Yeah, that makes sense.
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I agree with you. I don't think they had a
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disappointing performance in the bunch and I'm glad you bring up
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that initial. The group stage match, the four
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one defeat, when we talked about it, you know, there was a chance
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for Germany there when it was 31 where Germany could have pretty
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easily made it 3-2. They're a little unlucky on that
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chance and then you have a different football match after
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that. From your perspective, what was
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the difference between that group stage match and what we
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saw yesterday? Well, the most important
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difference were the absences of course.
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Leah Shoulda had some knee inflammation.
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Alexandra Pop once again heartbreaking.
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Reminds you of that European Championship final two years ago
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when she had to withdraw at the last moment.
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She was completely finished after 120 minutes against Canada
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and in her post match interview she essentially said she paid
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homage to Pam Matasaka, The Notorious B.I.G effing German
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who at the end of the Algeria Round of 16 fixture in the World
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Cup 2014, gave a famous post match interview in which he just
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said he was essentially exhausted.
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He didn't want to answer any questions, he wanted to spend 3
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days in the ice bath. Pup paid homage to that and
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later on her Instagram feed yesterday, she noted that her
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level of exhaustion after that Canadian match left her
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susceptible to infection. So indeed, she admitted that she
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caught this cold because she had just simply worked too hard
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throughout the course of the tournament in bravo to her for
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doing so. So we didn't have Shuda and we
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didn't have Pop. And as a result, Freebesh put
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together a 442, which I believe was actually quite effective.
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Nicole on Yomi, who was not initially on the the tournament
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roster, she was one of the reserves, was called into
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action, moved up to pair with her in A2 striker set.
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You had Sidney Loman and Clap Abboud handling the wings, Loman
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in in bronze position. Minga and Nuskin, whom has had
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an interesting tournament. I think that Nuskin has not
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really, she's been moved around so many different times.
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She's had so many different tactical assignments that she
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never really got comfortable. So that was a player that we
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were discussing in our previous pod that we had just amazing
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expectations for. But I think all of the various
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assignments just left her unable to get into a rhythm.
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So this 442, the clear aim of this, and I'm sure you noticed
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this as well, gentlemen, was to maintain a tight shape and
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frustrate the United States through hard defensive work and
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fouls. I think how many 20 fouls from
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the German team in this and I don't consider them.
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I didn't really consider any of them very dirty even though
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there were a pair of bookings for bond and hegeling before it
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was all out. But this was just sort of a grit
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your teeth and bear it weather the storm kind of tactical
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approach at least in the first half and we had great difficulty
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coping with your exceptionally talented team.
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Trinity Rodman absolutely destroyed Felicity Isabel on the
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on the US right. Swanson was also very active.
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Grin had difficulty coping with her.
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Oftentimes the US played sort of out of a back three it looked
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like, which is common. That actually happened under the
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the two previous trainers. I mean, if you have Crystal Dunn
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in a back four, it's going to turn into a back three.
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She's a trained striker. After all.
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The unquestionable player of the match was was Naomi Gilma, the
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the central defender, not only because of her work, defensive
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work, but she supplied, as she always does, creative sparks and
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getting the play moving. So essentially, I think we we
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held out as long as we could and and did a reasonably a decent
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job of weathering this storm, so to speak.
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But then in the second consecutive extra time match,
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how misjudged a pass from Swanson and that's how we get
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the goal from from Sophia Smith. So exhaustion played a role.
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Our medals did very, very well. They supported one another very,
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very well, I think, but it just in extra time.
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There was that one momentary lapse and that's all it took.
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That's that's my take on it. I'd be interested to get your
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takes on it as well because I've enjoyed your coverage so much
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throughout the tournament. For sure, I think it was
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impressive to see. Obviously a short handed German
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side really pack it in defensively, you know, just not
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allow for a lot of space. I think it was interesting that
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the US over this tournament has been utilizing, you know, the
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left hand side, the right hand side to kind of like initiate
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things. And then the goal ends up coming
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just three consecutive passes up the center of the park.
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Sort of caught Jeremy a little off guard, but credited that
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German defense, you know, 94 minutes of scoreless football
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against this high-powered and completely intact US roster.
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So another quick question about yesterday's semis.
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Did you notice anything specifically defensively that,
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you know, you found impressive? Say, OK, I like I like like this
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set up and I and I think 41 probably not the most indicative
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scoreline the first time around, but I think defensively a really
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great performance like we said to hold this US side scoreless
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for the full 90. Indeed, I hope everybody had a
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chance to check out Marina Hegering's nice little bit of
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defensive work there. I think that's making the rounds
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on YouTube now and and getting, collecting thousands of hits.
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I, I highly recommend that everybody sees it.
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We had our, I think our best defense out there.
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And Yulia Gvin, who was wearing the captain's armband in Pop's
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absence, did a fantastic job of organizing everyone and making
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sure that the US approach play as variable as it was.
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Because oftentimes in the US, builds done was was coming
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forward and the back three was pressing high with Gurmann sort
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of a pivot position. So Gvin was very, very vocal on
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the pitch. Speaking of the attendance
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figures, you could hear her yelling and then organizing the
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medals in in pop's absence. And she was particularly, I
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think, good at making sure that that Nuskin was was marking the
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midfield there of coffee and and Haran.
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Haran has has had an interesting tournament.
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I think that she's caught much more Flack than she deserves, in
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part because I think some of her her set piece play has been a
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little suspect, but she is a very, very difficult player to
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play against in the midfield because she, you know, does I
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mean, she can always organize a a split stagger when it comes to
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both approach play and counter plays.
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I think that the US counters were also very, very strong in
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this match and Germany did a very good job of absorbing them
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and sort of bow arcing it out. What I mean by bow arcing is you
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know, they will they'll get in a a solid tackle.
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Then they'll run it through the defensive ranks from left back
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to right back, just to sort of calm things down a little bit
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and make sure that you know, the next approach play conserves
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some energy and doesn't allow the other team to to get into
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too much of A rhythm. There were many, many
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highlights. Haggering's bit of defending.
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And then OK, the tactical fouls. Both Haggering and Pond were
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rightly booked for tactical fouls.
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I'm a huge proponent of Fair play, but in some cases things
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like that are just absolutely necessary.
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You know what we haven't talked about your girl Baga and Catlin
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Baga when we first met, when we first sat down to do this this
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pod, we mentioned her. I've knew very, very little
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about her because she's an NWSL professional.
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When we last spoke, Mayor Lafrombs was still the Germany
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number one, but after an air filled performance against
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Iceland in the penultimate match before the Olympics, and Baga's
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amazing performance against Austria in which she collected 2
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assists. Amazing.
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And then of course, she went on to effectively write her own
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fairy tale. Maybe storybook is a better way
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of describing that than fairy tale, but my goodness, what a
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tournament from her. It's been a pleasure to make her
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acquaintance. She bailed the Germany team out
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against Canada multiple times in the quarterfinals and you've
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already talked about this. Then she saves 2 penalties and
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converts one. This could have easily been
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three to four nil were it not for Baga.
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So I suppose the answer to the question, and we came to it in a
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roundabout way as I sometimes do, is is Baga's performance
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defensively. She has been incredible and it's
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incredible story. Why don't you tell me a little
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bit more about her? Because because she's on your
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feet, she's on on your end of the ponds.
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So she comes over to Gotham FC, which is in New Jersey, New York
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area. They, they say, you know, we
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knew she's coming from Chelsea. She's 33 years old.
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You know, Dino and I are relatively new to, to women's
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football. I think just only the past few
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years our interest was sparked and inspired all this that we're
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doing right now. So I didn't know a ton about
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her, but, you know, I knew that Merle Fromms was, was the number
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one over there in Germany. But we knew Berger had all that
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time at Chelsea and, and that she had a good career over
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there. But she she walked into the NWSL
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and was immediately announced herself as one of the best
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keepers in the league and has has put on a ton of great
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performances. You talk about the passing with
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the assists. She just has like an instinctive
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way to like throw players open. She's a field general out there
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kind of making sure that people are in the right spot and then
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great kick saves, real good flexibility.
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I'm glad you bring her up because you know, it's a one nil
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match yesterday. Sophia Smith gets the gets kind
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of the poke in to get the go ahead goal in extra time.
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Is it harsh to look at? And I always, I always give the
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disclaimer, I am not a goalkeeping expert, but I am
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curious, is it harsh to say that Berger was kind of caught in
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between on that? Is this one of those where
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people say I didn't like where the goalkeeper was positioned or
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is that where she was supposed to be in, in your view?
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I think that she tried to compensate for Ralph's error.
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I mean, if Al was in a better position to receive that path
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than Smith was. So she did rush out and try to
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do the sweeper keeper thing. Germans of course, love the
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sweeper keeper thing and we have over ever since Manuel Noyer
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invented it. And that very same Algeria match
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that I was referencing earlier, the pair Matisseka interview,
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that was the night that Manuel Noyer, the sweeper keeper was
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born. She did not have a perfect
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tournament. As a matter of fact, she made an
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egregious error in the in the Canada match, which was she more
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than redeemed herself, but Germany could have been
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eliminated for one of the errors that she made.
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And Pop actually referenced that in her post match interview as
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well. She is a high risk goalkeeper.
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Sometimes it's it's correct to run out, sometimes it's not.
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Sometimes you need to quick start counter, other times you
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need to bow arc it out of the back.
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There were instances in this tournament in which you could
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tell that you know she wasn't judging things correctly, but I
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would say that to to hold her at faults on that goal would would
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be exceedingly hard, particularly considering the big
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saves that she made, including the the 2nd save that she made
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on Smith in the 120th. I think that was the last play
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of the game. Just an excellent stop.
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The better team won. I think Sophia Smith is just so
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incredible. She scored.
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All three of her tournament goals have come against Germany.
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She's a certified German killer. Had we gone into this tournament
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with Fromms, who one could tell was really on shaky ground in
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that Iceland match, I don't know if we would have made it out of
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the group. Quite possible.
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Yeah, so funny. I I kept thinking about the
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conversation we had right before because it was like up in the
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air. We're talking to France, talking
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burger and we didn't I mean I'm I'm tangentially familiar with
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Fromms game. You know, obviously you see her,
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you know, representing Germany and and obviously she's a
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Bundesliga player. But Berger, who we got to see
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here in the US as soon as she came over, she was on absolute
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fire. So we actually recorded last
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night our official semi final post game and Grant and I got
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into a little bit just the thought exercise of what if Fry
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Gang's header goes in in the 119th minute.
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We go to PK's, we're staring at burgers at like a like a
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monster, monster game. Jeremy's got all the momentum
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going into that. We talk about penalty kicks as a
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bit of a coin flip, but that one might have felt a little bit
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like 40604555. Even though US, you know,
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controlled big parts of the match.
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That was a real scary proposition and what's going to
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end up being somewhat of a historic save for the US and a
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listener. Yeah, that was an interesting
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play. I thought Vin maybe just out of
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frustration and her post match interviewed claimed that that
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was total luck, that that was a total fluke and things like
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that. I think she was just a little
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bit crestfallen and wanted to get her frustration out one way
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or the other. I mean, Nayer has been an
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incredible keeper since she took over in the 2019 Women's World
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Cup. She already has a world
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championship under her belt. Maybe that's a good sake you and
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into this the current state of the women's national team, which
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has undergone a little bit of a dip.
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But I, I think that right now they're back on top of the
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world. The four times world champions
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are the transition phase has been traversed.
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I think that the best 11 is there now.
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And this sort of post Alex Morgan, Megan Rapinoe, Tobin
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Heath era has has now finally arrived.
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Do you do you agree, gentlemen? I think I do.
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And I think it's it's it's great that you mentioned those three
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players up front as kind of they were the stalwarts.
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They were an absolute nightmare for teams in the 2019 World Cup.
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Rapino, Morgan, Heath, and now you just have Swanson, Smith,
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Rodman, who kind of have some similar parts to the game, like
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across each other, like they all have these these similar traits.
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It certainly feels like the the transition is is nearing
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completion. I mean, obviously I think a gold
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medal would would help people kind of cement that over here.
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But it's been really fun to watch just how quickly Emma
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Hayes has been able to look and say, Oh yeah, OK, these are the
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pieces that we have. This is what everybody does
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best. And then immediately slot them
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into the right positions and and Sophia Smith talked about it a
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little bit in her post game of just saying like, we knew we
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always had the players, we just needed to be in the right spot.
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And I don't think she was. I don't think it was like a
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gratuitous shot at at Vlaco, But I think there was some
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frustration from the players toward the end of like, man, is
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this guy really putting us in the right position to win.
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I think from the results, again, Vlaco's having a a good run at
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Kansas City Current and NWSLI think there is a clear
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difference between the way Emma Hayes views football and manages
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A-Team and the way Flacco does. Yeah, Well put.
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Congratulations. You're back on top of the world.
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You know, you got one more, got one more match to win.
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Yeah, we're on top. I agree with Spicy here.
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As mentioned, got some more football coming up before this
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tournament officially wraps. I want to talk little bronze
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medal match up. So Germany probably flying
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pretty high. I think they at least met
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expectations, if not slightly exceeded expectations in this
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tournament. Making the semis means that you
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get to play for a medal. And Germany's facing a Spanish
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side that looked extremely leggy, extremely exhausted.
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I want to, you know, slightly pump the brakes on The USA is
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fully, fully back, back. Because I think in a lot of
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ways, this was a tournament of attrition.
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I made reference to this, I think maybe when one of our
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first episodes where I was like, you know, Spain looks a little I
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didn't want to use the word doe. They didn't look as dynamic and
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like, you know, lightning quick as they had.
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And and obviously, you know, you come off the Champions League
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win for those Barcelona players or the Champions League season
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league F season more generally. You can imagine players maybe
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took a couple weeks off just to say, OK, this is our break.
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We know we're going to be back end of July for the Olympics.
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But this bronze medal match, Germany versus a Spain side that
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feels a little gettable. Where's your head at vice?
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You want to hear what the what the expectations are for the for
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for Friday's match. Well, we get to wave more flags
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one more time and I get to watch host Creebish one more time.
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Now it's interesting, I found how women's football seems to be
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mirroring the men's game a little bit as we had Spain
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defeat England in the Women's World Cup semi final last summer
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and also had Spain defeat England in the Euro semi final.
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Spain eliminated Germany in the Euro quarterfinals and now we're
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facing them again in the women's side.
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I've always had enormous respect for women's football in Spain
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and and this despite the fact that a series of national team
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coaches always got their tactics wrong, always got their always
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got the way that they treated the players wrong.
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Right now, I mean, I'm legitimately concerned about a
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front three that features Caldente, Salma Navarro, Paul
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Nazi is one of my favourites women's players of all time.
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I think on a Batley is going to give Fidisa disk some serious
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problems. But here's how I would set
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Germany up tactically if I were Horse Fruitbee for this bronze
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medal match. So we have An Yomi called up.
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We also have Fraigang, who came in and gave probably one of her
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best performances in a day of baits we call all year.
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So the idea then would be to stick with a 442.
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We're going to put An Yomi and Fraigang together in A2 striker
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set. We'll keep blonde and Boo on the
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wings. We will maintain the midfield of
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Minga Yuskin, I think needs to come out.
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Saudi Lindner was the starting left back.
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Valk took over for her when she succumbed to infection, I think
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after the first match. And I don't know why she's not
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been able to reclaim that spot. I mean, Valk made several errors
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in the loss to the United States and of course, misjudged the
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past there as well. I think that that slot should
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belong to Minga. I assume that Gwyn maintains the
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captaincy. I mean, of course if Pop is
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healthy, we'll put her in Minga's place but still maintain
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new skin. I don't know what the status of
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of Hegering and Henry are. They both incurred injuries.
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Hegering is perpetually hurt. So if Hegering can't go, we'll
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go with Schultzo Solano instead. If Henry can't go, we'll go with
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Dor soon. But a 442A tight 442 with a
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similar match plan of frustrating the Spanish team
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breaking up play. I know it's a cliche to talk
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about Spanish ticky taka. And I almost want to throw up
22:36
when talking about it because I've been talking about it as a
22:39
football writer for 15 years. And, and I'm, I'm tired of
22:42
people talking about, oh, the Spanish short passing game and
22:44
all of this stuff. And you know, Ticky Taka is not
22:46
a religion for them, just like the Dutch lining up in a 433 is
22:52
not is not religion either. These are two misnomers.
22:55
These are two urban legends, I would suppose about football.
22:58
But the way that Spain are set up in this tournament in a 433
23:01
usually is built around a short passing game.
23:04
I wish, I wish. Oh, how I wish we had Lena
23:07
Obador. I think the tournament would
23:10
have turned out so differently because as a solo 6, as a
23:14
sweeper, working in a 66, working a split stagger, hell,
23:18
working as an 8, she is, you know, absolutely.
23:23
She's just a wizard. And we, we miss her.
23:26
We missed her again. I don't, I don't know what we
23:29
have to. I hope that she'll be fit for
23:32
the for the European Championships come next summer
23:35
in Switzerland, which everyone should attend.
23:37
Everybody should start making their travel plans right now to
23:41
come to Switzerland and watch the European Championships next
23:44
Sunday. So either we do that 442, I even
23:47
have an alternative tactical recommendation for and that is,
23:52
yeah, let's do it. I don't know if you noticed, but
23:55
the the Zambia match in which we were able to exact revenge for
23:59
that heartbreaking defeat in in Fiat last summer.
24:03
He lined them up in a sort of a 4141 in which Bond, Boud and
24:10
Shura all worked as a, you know, 3 pawns attacking set and Pop
24:16
was with Nuskin together in a 88 rotating set with Minga serving
24:20
as the solo 6, dropping back to be a boat lock sweeper on a
24:23
couple of occasions. And that worked, as you know,
24:26
exceptionally well. The only qualifier there is that
24:29
we need Sheila to be healthy to spearhead the attack.
24:32
If we're going to line up in a 4141 or if we're going to do a
24:35
433 or or anything like that, we need her up there because
24:39
particularly her her heading game is necessary if we're going
24:43
to be working crosses in from from brewed and pond.
24:46
But I'll be watching it. I'll be waving my German flag.
24:49
I'll be giving Hosta Besh a find send off because I don't know if
24:55
I'll see the German footballing legend coach A-Team again.
24:58
He's stepping down afterwards for Christian Vuk.
25:02
I'm not quite sure I'm excited about that to be honest.
25:04
I wish, I wish Ramesh would stay.
25:07
If you want a prediction, I would say I would probably say
25:10
that Spain wins 21 and I hope that I'm wrong.
25:13
And of course, as a dual national and speaking to you
25:16
today from stateside, unlike last time when I was in Germany,
25:19
I will be rooting for the USWNT who might also have a soft spot
25:24
for fond liking for when they're not playing Germany.
25:27
That's that's fair. That's fair game.
25:33
I think you lead us right into kind of the, the last piece that
25:37
we we wanted to kind of wrap up on is, you know, you talk about
25:41
I'm going to butcher the name Krubesch.
25:43
Krubesch host Krubesch. Gotcha.
25:50
Actually, yeah, that one. Not, not, not to interrupt,
25:53
please. There was a US player who came
25:56
in late on that I had never heard of before.
25:58
As a matter of fact, the US substitutions were really,
26:00
really interesting. How she took Koran and and done
26:03
off, you know, that was, that was really weird.
26:05
It was an interesting little tactical battle and I think she
26:07
did a great job. Emma Hayes did, but how does one
26:10
pronounce Nishwonga? Well, it should be pronounced
26:15
that way. I like the way Nishwonger
26:17
sounds, but that would be in America.
26:20
Over here, that would be a Jenna Neiswonger.
26:23
Ah, OK. It's kind of like, it's not
26:26
Becky Sourbuden, it's it's sour Sourbrun.
26:29
Sourbrun. OK, I got you.
26:32
You did. It with that American swing for
26:34
sure. And so think thinking with the
26:39
future in mind, you know, new manager, I mean, you know, just
26:43
looking at the at the squad that was out there, understanding
26:45
that there are some injuries. I mean, bronze 21 and Yomi 24,
26:51
Nuskin 23, Loman 24, Buell 23 given 25, like the future feels
26:59
bright. But I'd love to hear from your
27:02
perspective whether the bronze medal is in the cards or not,
27:05
especially after those kind of those weird send off matches and
27:09
the loss to Iceland. What is the runway look like now
27:12
from your perspective? What is the future kind of hold
27:14
for this German side? Well, there's a lot of other
27:17
players that that you didn't mention.
27:18
There's Vivian Endedman, who we talked a little bit about in the
27:21
last pot. She is 23.
27:23
We also has Elisa Sense, who is 26, but she scored that amazing
27:30
goal off the volley. I I don't know, did you guys
27:33
have a chance to to discuss that in one of your previous pods?
27:37
I think so. A lot of football lately.
27:39
It's tournament football now. It's not only exhausting for the
27:41
players, but it is exhausting for those of us who cover it.
27:45
As somebody who has covered, you know, for my blog, I covered
27:48
international tournaments thoroughly and every last team.
27:51
Yeah, when you get towards the the final matches, you start to
27:54
forget things and, and sometimes matches run together and, and
27:58
stuff like that and you see the exhaustion on the players,
28:01
particularly after all these 120 minute matches.
28:03
But anyway, let me I digress. We'll get back to your to your
28:06
question. I think that Solano is also one
28:11
for the future. She is 25.
28:13
Haggering is of course Pastor Prime and and and so is is
28:17
Henry. I really liked Lynn to shame
28:20
that that she didn't wish it wasn't able to reclaim that left
28:23
back role for whatever reason. I think that some things have to
28:28
come together for Vogue. His number one priority once he
28:31
takes over this team is to get some of the players that are
28:35
underperforming to perform better, and the two best
28:37
examples of that are going to be the front foot teammates on Yomi
28:41
and Frigon. On Yomi, she had a good game
28:45
defensively, but there were so many instances on attacking
28:48
sequences in which you could just see that her confidence is
28:50
not there and this has been true for club and country for her for
28:54
quite some time. Frigon continues to exhibit
28:58
excellent club form, but in the DFA show she just cannot get
29:02
into the lineup. So I say that we get these two
29:05
playing with confidence. Again, that is the most
29:09
important thing. Second, we have to rely on a
29:12
little bit of luck. The problem with the prodigy
29:14
like Oberdorf is this injury history is really, really piling
29:19
up and one starts to get really, really worried.
29:21
No shortage of amazing players who had just incredible amount
29:26
of talent having their careers ended prematurely by injury.
29:30
I suppose the the the best example off the top of my head
29:33
would be Michael Owen right for England.
29:35
So as Dana Oberdorf, the next Michael Owen, I, I sincerely
29:40
hope not because we would all be robbed of just an amazing talent
29:46
and and somebody who really understands the game and makes
29:50
the game beautiful in so many different ways.
29:53
You know, pop two, I fully anticipate that she will still
29:57
be captaining the squad for next summer's Oyros.
30:00
I think that she deserves it. And this will this will be her
30:04
swan song. This will be her last one, but
30:06
she's got to remain fit and healthy.
30:09
She's been struggling with injury for so long and she
30:13
filled in for Obrador this tournament and it was the
30:16
physical demands of that assignment that eventually led
30:20
to her catching this cold and not being available for a
30:23
crucial match again. So we need some luck when it
30:27
comes to women's football. I think strength and
30:30
conditioning is so immensely important because these girls
30:35
don't always have the best strength and conditioning
30:38
coaches at their clubs. You know, we talk about the
30:40
differences between the two sports, men's and women, and we
30:44
even talked about college athletics a little bit in our
30:47
last podcast. I personally hold women's
30:51
athletics and college athletics to a different standard.
30:54
I don't Boo. I don't shout.
30:57
I try to keep things more positive because we're talking
31:00
about athletes who are either not compensated at all or very,
31:04
very poorly compensated. And another aspect of the
31:07
women's game is that the strength and conditioning
31:11
coaches are uneven across the clubs.
31:15
And This is why we see so many ACL tears in the women's game.
31:21
Well, it's a confluence of reasons, but I mean, women with
31:25
their hips, it can be a little bit easier for them to tear a
31:27
ligament, But they're also like wearing boots that were designed
31:30
for men. They're not receiving proper,
31:33
you know, conditioning and and and training at their clubs.
31:37
Some of them don't even play football full time, so they're
31:42
working other jobs and that's putting additional stress on
31:46
their bodies and maybe leading them to have some problems with
31:51
general nutrition and stuff like this.
31:54
So getting some players more confident and for the love of
31:58
God, I hope that that we have in the new coaching regime, we
32:02
really need some quality, strength and conditioning
32:05
coaching from the new coaching regime.
32:07
And that applies to Germany and women's football in general.
32:09
Because unfortunately they're not they're not receiving the
32:12
best. I mean, you.
32:13
What do you think about that? I totally agree.
32:15
I think, you know, you see, in like big sports organizations,
32:18
especially in like the last 20 years, especially, sports
32:21
science is miles and miles ahead of where it used to.
32:25
And that's the strength and conditioning part and nutrition.
32:28
And, you know, Dino's favorite NBA team is the Miami Heat, and
32:31
they were like leaders in that space pretty early on.
32:36
And that has created a big advantage for their
32:38
organization. I mean, it's a good point
32:40
because you think about an international tournament like
32:43
this. Let's take a team like Zambia,
32:45
right? Zambia's in the NWSL, they got
32:47
players. In Kazakhstan, they had some
32:49
players and in Spain. Imagine bringing all these
32:51
national team players together and they all experience
32:55
different strength and conditioning programs at their
32:57
various clubs where they spend most of their time.
32:59
And now it's like the warm ups are different, you know, the the
33:02
stretching, the routine, you know, like, and the the fitness
33:05
level is different. So I mean, it's a tremendous
33:07
point where I think as that starts to elevate, I think it
33:10
definitely helps the game in a massive, massive way.
33:13
With that said, thanks again, Peter, really appreciate you
33:17
joining us. Very much appreciate you
33:19
shouting out my guy Para Mitzacker twice on the show.
33:23
What a legend. The both you guys, absolute
33:25
legend. So very much appreciate that.
33:27
That'll get you that'll get you a third appearance on the show,
33:29
no doubt. Arsenal legend, so definitely
33:32
appreciate you joining us gentlemen.
33:34
Anything else we want to hit for Get out of here?
33:36
No, I think we, I think we covered.
33:37
I'm looking forward to watching these.
33:39
You know, like Peter said, this young German side kind of
33:42
develop. I think Euros are going to be
33:44
very, very interesting next year.
33:46
Great advice from Peter to make sure that we're saving, make
33:49
sure we can figure out, get our way out to Switzerland next year
33:52
for the Euros. But I think that's it for me.
33:55
Well, I I don't recall if we if we left a little pit from my
33:59
blog in the the last one, but the most important message that
34:04
I have when I finally closed the blog down in the women's Oyros
34:06
in 2022 was the last tournament that I covered.
34:09
Once again, put your Bunny where your mouth is and buy a ticket.
34:12
That is the most important thing that we can do for women's
34:15
football is show up and the Switzerland Oyros are going to
34:20
be fantastic. I cordially invite everyone over
34:24
to my side of the pond. I live in southwest Germany,
34:27
which is not far from the Swiss border.
34:29
It is a small country, so you can coordinate.
34:32
You can hit up all of these matches next summer and just
34:37
plan yourself a wonderful vacation.
34:39
Book your flights now. The tickets are going to be
34:42
widely available and you don't have to worry about when they're
34:45
going to be released or anything like that.
34:47
You can buy them on the day of the match if you like, but come
34:50
on over to Europe for the UEFA, the 2025 UEFA Women's Oyros.
34:56
Hopefully Germany will reclaim their superiority.
35:00
We were seven time European champions before the Dutch and
35:04
the English claimed the last two crowns.
35:06
But everybody come on over to Europe, come on over to my neck
35:11
of the woods. We've got an amazing tournament
35:13
next summer. Love it.
35:15
We'll be there. Just got to iron out that small
35:17
business of find a couple sponsors to, you know, get us
35:21
out there. You know, we don't need anything
35:22
major, you know, just some room and board, couple flights direct
35:25
if we can. Seattle's a long trip.
35:27
Maybe you wanted to take a little quick stop in New York.
35:29
Well, we'll coordinate it, but we'll back office business stuff
35:33
to handle before we get out there.
35:34
But I think you can count on your boys being out there.
35:37
Love to kind of get out there with you, crack a cold one,
35:39
maybe do a little live show, get everybody together, have some
35:42
fun and do our part to grab some of those tickets and support.
35:46
We know it's going to be an excellent tournament.
35:47
So very excited about that. All right, gentlemen, I think we
35:49
did it. This has been another episode of
35:51
into the channel. Sincere thank you, thank you,
35:52
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35:57
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36:10
And to our special guest, Mr. Peter Vice, Mr. Grant Angle, I
36:14
appreciate you, bro. Likewise, Peter, thank you again
36:16
for joining us. We will be watching very
36:19
closely. Excited to see you or Medel's
36:21
take on Spain on Friday. For everybody else, we will talk
36:24
to you next time. Keep up the good work.
36:28
Appreciate it man.