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- 0:00Hello there, and welcome back to
- 0:01Hydroponics Daily, your go-to podcast for everything soilless cultivation.
- 0:06I'm your host, Dr. Russell Sharp, the founder of Utreema Limited.
- 0:11Now, what if I was to tell you, you could take a picture of a legal cannabis
- 0:17plant, and before you harvest it,
- 0:20and tell the active ingredient concentration
- 0:24in there, the cannabinoid concentration in the final product.
- 0:27You'd say i'm crazy but there's a couple of bits of research that have just
- 0:31been well just i've just been made aware of that potentially means you could
- 0:37do this not only could you do this you don't need necessarily need a fancy piece
- 0:41of kit you could potentially do this with your.
- 0:44Smartphone so i'm going to go into how you
- 0:47might be able to do that and maybe a couple of you will want to play around
- 0:51with this and try if you are legal cannabis growers so the first piece of research
- 0:58I came across was work done by the University of Adelaide in collaboration with
- 1:03a German tech company called Compolitics.
- 1:07And they've developed a non-destructive leaf scanning method,
- 1:12they say can accurately predict the cannabinoid concentration
- 1:15in the cannabis plants so what it
- 1:18does is you take a picture and it's of the fan leaf
- 1:21and it's called hyperspectral reflectance so hyperspectral means across the
- 1:25whole light spectrum all the wavelengths you can buy hyperspectral cameras they're
- 1:31very expensive but this fan leaf hyperspectral flhr for short involves taking
- 1:36measurements across the plant's canopy during early and late flowering,
- 1:40and it was found to reliably predict the final cannabinoid concentration.
- 1:46Now, that measurement is then overlaid with machine learning models trained
- 1:51on the results to achieve a predictive accuracy.
- 1:55It's not just a case of taking the picture and then it tells you the cannabinoid concentration.
- 1:58You then have to put it into some fancy models that come out with it,
- 2:02you know, basically correlations so this
- 2:05will be probably be cultivar specific as
- 2:08well it uses a handheld non-destructive hyperspectral
- 2:12device that enables rapid in situ so
- 2:15in the in the grow room in the greenhouse in the grow room yep of
- 2:18intact fan leaves so you don't need to do sacrificial sampling
- 2:22which is always a problem when you're growing high value crops it
- 2:25uses specialized lighting and detectors to capture subtle
- 2:28differences in the light that's reflected from
- 2:32the plant's leaves and every chemical and structure feature in the leaf such
- 2:36as pigments water trichomes sugars reflect at different wavelengths so this
- 2:42work has been published in the in a journal called industrial crops and products
- 2:46and what you do is you scan across the whole spectrum but then focus on a.
- 2:53Which is the chemical signature, the spectral signature for each leaf.
- 2:58And then obviously the clever work is knowing the mathematical traits and things like that.
- 3:02So you could potentially predict the cannabinoid profile weeks before you harvest it.
- 3:08And you could then plan what you're going to do with the crop,
- 3:12or you could sell it based on this.
- 3:15So you could pre-sell your crop based on its THC or CBD or other cannabinoid concentration.
- 3:23And if you're growing things like hemp or cbd where you need to know the thc
- 3:28is below a certain limit that could also be important so this is an area i think will rapidly increase.
- 3:34And you know make and so on
- 3:38area to watch so is it the same for all strains
- 3:41of legal cannabis and could you use it on
- 3:44seedlings to faster breed
- 3:47strains that were extremely potent so
- 3:51you could screen 10 000 very very
- 3:54small seedlings for a very specific cannabinoid now
- 3:57it could be thc or cbd it could be cbg or
- 4:00some really obscure one that you struggle to
- 4:04identify and characterize in a lab and
- 4:07also you take ages to get all these mature plants to
- 4:10flowering and fruiting and to curing and extraction you just
- 4:13do a hyperspectral image you can determine the concentration
- 4:16of this cannabinoid and away you go remove all the
- 4:19other all the seedlings that were not high in that and.
- 4:22Then go again with those plants and take them to maturity use
- 4:26them for breeding so potentially could massively speed
- 4:29up the breeding of legal cannabis crops tremendously now
- 4:33this obviously requires a hyperspectral
- 4:36camera but could you get away with using your
- 4:40smartphone and that brings me on to the second piece of research that i
- 4:43have uncovered this week and that was brought
- 4:47to light by a slug network i'm involved with because
- 4:50i'm involved in a research project where
- 4:53they scan fields for slugs using
- 4:56hyperspectral cameras but one of
- 4:59them forwarded a interesting paper this week which
- 5:02i'm going to go into now and this is an article in ieee
- 5:07spectrum and it says the purdue university
- 5:10researcher young kim that's his name he's not just that's not like his rapper
- 5:15name young kim and his team have combined computer vision color science and
- 5:20optical spectroscopy to create an algorithm that recovers detailed spectral
- 5:26information from conventional photographs.
- 5:29And he says that, in contrast...
- 5:33To the human eye which picks up red blue and green in
- 5:37the visible range off the shelf smartphone camera sensors
- 5:40are potentially hyperspectral in nature meaning that
- 5:43each pixel is sensitive to far more spectral
- 5:47bands than we can actually see on the on the
- 5:49screen and scientists have now found a simple
- 5:52way of for any conventional smartphone camera
- 5:55to serve as a hyperspectral sensor and what
- 5:58they do is they place a card with a chart on
- 6:01it within its view so you
- 6:04have the picture of say the plant with or the
- 6:07slug in this case with with this
- 6:11chart and it potentially turns it into a hyperspectral camera so it's a patent
- 6:15pending technique so you can't just copy this it is well you could copy it but
- 6:20they'd have to find out and sue you and know that you were copying them that's
- 6:24the problem with patents so you could potentially get around it that way but
- 6:27yeah then you couldn't commercialize it.
- 6:29The new pages of Pretendant St. Meek may find applications in defense.
- 6:32Security, medicine, forensics, agriculture, environmental monitoring,
- 6:37industrial quality control, and food beverage analysis.
- 6:40Basically, anywhere we use hyperspectral analysis.
- 6:43It's been used in agriculture for a while, hyperspectral imaging.
- 6:46I used it back in like 2016 for looking at pest and disease outbreaks in potato crops.
- 6:55We flew a drone with a hyperspectral camera and very expensive hyperspectral
- 6:59camera from finland up in the james hutton institute up in dundee bit of a wash
- 7:06out that that study but yeah so potentially your phone can turn into hyperspectral
- 7:11camera you can buy phones or used to be able to buy.
- 7:14Phone add-ons like jcb phones with infrared
- 7:18cameras on them i don't know you can still buy them but if you're
- 7:21looking for like if you're looking to look at how hot
- 7:24your plants how stressed they were then you can see how hot
- 7:27they are the leaf temperature compared to the surroundings that's another good
- 7:30use of smartphones and spectral
- 7:33imaging on smartphones get a infrared imaging attachment
- 7:36to your smartphone and you can see how stressed your plants are how
- 7:39water stressed they are in your environment but back
- 7:42to hyperspectral imaging one of the examples they
- 7:45show is a iphone with a
- 7:48tiny little little it almost looks like
- 7:51a piece of modern art it's like a matchbox sized
- 7:54image trying to think of the artist who does it damien hirst it's like a damien
- 7:59hirst picture with all little pixels and picture colors and then a glass of
- 8:03whiskey and obviously whiskey is massive in japan and the research can image
- 8:08the transmission spectrum of high-end whiskeys thus determining its authenticity.
- 8:12So if you buy a bottle of whiskey that's extremely expensive you can just use
- 8:16this really simple method to see whether it is actually what they say is.
- 8:20And having mentioned high-end artists like Damien Hurst this
- 8:23technique can actually be used to look at pictures in art
- 8:26galleries and see if they're actually authentic whether the pigments are
- 8:30actually the same paints used by the artist or whether
- 8:32they're a fake so another interesting use of hyperspectral imaging
- 8:36and the authors acknowledge that there have been previous attempts to to use
- 8:40smartphones to get hyperspectral images but often these involve inaccuracies
- 8:46or bulky additions to the smartphone extra pieces of kit you have to bolt on
- 8:50like i said for that infrared one so potentially this could include infrared and,
- 8:55ultraviolet and all the other spectrums and wavelengths obviously it's probably
- 8:59gonna you You need the special card to put next to your plant.
- 9:03And you will need an app that can have the algorithms in and all the data and
- 9:09the data from the previous study on cannabinoids.
- 9:12So certainly not something that's coming anytime soon, but it's not beyond the
- 9:16wit of man to create a app and a card that you could put in front of a cannabis
- 9:21plant and it could tell you the cannabinoid concentration at harvest,
- 9:26which is amazing to think.
- 9:28It can't be done today but it could
- 9:31be done tomorrow if everyone's in the world put
- 9:34their minds to it which is probably not going to be a priority probably solve
- 9:38the war in ukraine or the problem in
- 9:41gaza first before we go on to determining that but it is possible so it's not
- 9:45impossible which is really interesting and could be around the corner if some
- 9:50clever bods get together and take all these technologies from these different
- 9:55companies and researchers and put them together in one smartphone application.
- 10:00Would require someone from outside of these teams to do it because the focus
- 10:04of the Purdue team will probably be in medical applications to begin with.
- 10:10It's not going to be cannabis breeding, certainly not, even if it is legal.
- 10:14But there, something to think about. If you've got an interesting take on this.
- 10:18If you think I've got something wrong or you'd like an addition or a correction, then let me know.
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- 11:47Hydroponics although we did get one case didn't we previously did an episode
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- 11:55that's enough rambling from me today i hope you've enjoyed this podcast and
- 11:58i'll see you again tomorrow goodbye.