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Ian Furness 11/6 H1: Hawks injuries, Gardner Minshew returns and Greg Cosell · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: a Friday afternoon. Moger, thanks for hanging out, buddy. Everyone's
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  Speaker 2: on vacation this week. You're the last man standing, and
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Oh, yeah. I've been busy. But you've
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  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell at 1220. Rob Rang at 2 o'clock. Danny O'Neill,
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  Speaker 2: get Greg on from Seahawk headquarters. That's the story. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: just looking through here, these are all did not participate
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  Speaker 2: yesterday for the Seahawks. All right, ready to go? Charles Cross,
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  Speaker 2: that was expected. Sam Darnold, that was expected as well.
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  Speaker 2: Derek Hall. Out of nowhere, not expected. No injury designation
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  Speaker 2: for Derek Hall on Wednesday. Yesterday, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: a back DNP. Also not participating yesterday. Quentin Nelson, knee, huh?
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  Speaker 2: Chena Nwosu, ankle. We knew about that, but we're hoping
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  Speaker 2: to see him on the field. Did not participate. Connor O'Toole,
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Peely, Rashid Shahid, all did not participate. That's a
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  Speaker 2: long-ass list. I don't care who you're playing in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: that's a long list. So we'll check in with Greg.
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  Speaker 2: here in about a little over an hour's time, and
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  Speaker 2: go through that list, and they'll go through that list
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  Speaker 2: out there. Greg and the other guys, the other beat
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  Speaker 2: guys out there will go through that list with Mike McDonald,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm assuming we'll hear a lot of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: wait and see, blah, blah, blah, you know, game time decision,
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  Speaker 2: all that. The game status practice report comes out about
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  Speaker 2: usually around 115-ish. We'll see. I'm more usually curious what
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  Speaker 2: the coach says, because sometimes you'll see guys that are
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  Speaker 2: questionable and he'll say oh no he's gonna play you
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  Speaker 2: know we just have to put that on there for
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  Speaker 2: the designation and i normally on this i don't i
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  Speaker 2: just injury reports to me i just i wait till
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  Speaker 2: friday looking at a thursday one doesn't do me much
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  Speaker 2: but then all of a sudden like derrick hall what
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  Speaker 2: what happened and they're already maybe gonna be without new
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  Speaker 2: osu like that's all of a sudden you're thin there
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  Speaker 2: and you're without connor o'toole like you're without a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of guys yeah uh on that edge and that's not
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  Speaker 2: good uh and then you throw in uh obviously quentin
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  Speaker 2: nelson uh From limited to not participating, you're asking yourself
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  Speaker 2: what's going on there. Maybe they're just being cautious. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of times when they do that, it'll just say NIR,
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  Speaker 2: non-injury related, veteran player resting. Like JSN gets that treatment,
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  Speaker 2: for example. He's not even listed on yesterday. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: see what happens there. I did want to touch in
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  Speaker 2: on this real fast. I mentioned this to Greg in
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  Speaker 2: the tease. He told a great story. He played the audio.
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  Speaker 2: I think he played the audio with Gardner talking about
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  Speaker 2: Wazoo and Mike Leach. Yes, sir. Yeah, the story. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you have two backup quarterbacks starting this weekend. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I just look back at, you know, everyone's got a story.
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  Speaker 2: Every story is different. Gardner's is interesting because, yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: was going to go be a grad assistant at Alabama,
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  Speaker 2: and you literally make nothing. I've got one of my
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  Speaker 2: son's really good friends is a grad assistant at Clemson
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  Speaker 2: right now. And, you know, it's, you're, you're grinding, like
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  Speaker 2: you're making minimum wage, whatever it might be and whatever
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  Speaker 2: stipend they give you. And you're doing it out of
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  Speaker 2: the love of whatever you're doing. This young man in
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  Speaker 2: Clemson is doing a strength and conditioning internship over there
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  Speaker 2: and try to get his master's and do all that
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  Speaker 2: and make that a career. But whether you're doing that
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  Speaker 2: or coaching or train, you know, athletic trainer, what have you,
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  Speaker 2: when you're on that grad assistant path, you're not making money. And, and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Gardner famously said, yeah, Mike Leach Collins said,
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  Speaker 2: you want to lead the country in passing. That's not
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  Speaker 2: the part of the story that I'm, concerned with.
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  Speaker 3: He did.
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  Speaker 2: He was phenomenal. And 2018 Cougar team was good. They
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  Speaker 2: needed to find a quarterback. They had Anthony Gordon. They
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  Speaker 2: just thought he was maybe a year away and it
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  Speaker 2: proved to be the case. Anthony had a good year
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  Speaker 2: the next year and went on to play briefly in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL. But they needed a guy and so forth.
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  Speaker 2: What also goes sometimes out without being said is our
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  Speaker 2: school needed someone like Gardner. The reason they needed a
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  Speaker 2: quarterback was because Tyler Holinsky had died by suicide in
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  Speaker 2: January of 2018.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And there was a decided Paul over the campus, like
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  Speaker 2: just really a dark cloud over the campus all spring.
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  Speaker 2: And I just, you know, my daughter was going to
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  Speaker 2: school there then and talking to her and even players
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  Speaker 2: that played with Tyler and others, they come out to
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  Speaker 2: the golf tournament every year. Everyone needed something. And it
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  Speaker 2: was unintentional. It was like, hey, we're going to bring
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  Speaker 2: this guy in. He's a fun personality. He's quirky. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they knew anything about that. But it turned
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  Speaker 2: out to be the case. You know, Gardner Minshew's To me,
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  Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew's contributions to Washington State, and really to our
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  Speaker 2: state as a whole, were far past the football field.
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  Speaker 2: It was more about what he did to raise the
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  Speaker 2: level of emotions, the positive energy he brought, the personality
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  Speaker 2: he brought. That was so needed. I had a chance
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  Speaker 2: to talk to him in the following year, and I
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  Speaker 2: guess it would have been January of 2019, whenever it
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  Speaker 2: was in early 2019 when we had the Seattle Sports
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  Speaker 2: Awards down there. And he was one of the, I
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  Speaker 2: think he might've even won that male athlete of the year,
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  Speaker 2: but he was down there and I remember talking to
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  Speaker 2: him and he was there with Jack Thompson, the throwing Samoan.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, you know, just as a father of
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  Speaker 2: a student, I just want to tell you how much
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  Speaker 2: you meant to our school, how much you meant to
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  Speaker 2: the young people that were going there. It's amazing how
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  Speaker 2: sports can elevate everyone's attitude. And we go through, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys can tell me 49451
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  Speaker 2: on the Tacoma Dodge text line. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: Blue Friday is still as much a thing as it
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  Speaker 2: used to be.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe not.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not. It was. And I thought that was the
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  Speaker 2: coolest thing. I really did. And that, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: then we have, you know, you get the snobby fans
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  Speaker 2: that we have in our world. 12 since 12. You're
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  Speaker 2: just an idiot when you say stuff like that. If
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  Speaker 2: you say 12 since 12, you're just a moron. Like
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  Speaker 2: you just are. Like you should embrace more fans on
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  Speaker 2: the bandwagon. Yeah. But the, you know, the Blue Fridays
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  Speaker 2: were awesome. You know, we used to do stuff when
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  Speaker 2: Friday show every Friday down at Lumen Field. Bill Wicks
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  Speaker 2: would go down there, rah, rah, drum band, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the drum line would be there. It was a ton
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  Speaker 2: of fun. Sports and fun sports and just a team
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  Speaker 2: can elevate the entire attitude of a community, a city,
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  Speaker 2: a region, a state, whatever, a campus. It can also
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  Speaker 2: have the opposite effect. And in the case of when
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  Speaker 2: Tyler died by suicide, it had an opposite effect that
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  Speaker 2: we couldn't even fathom, dream of, or shudder to think
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  Speaker 2: of ever. I mean, it's not wins and losses at
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  Speaker 2: that point. It's a massive loss of a human life.
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  Speaker 2: And Gardner Minshew raised everybody back up. He brought everybody
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  Speaker 2: back up from, frankly, a dark, dark place, a cloud
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  Speaker 2: on campus. Cougar football Saturdays were a thing. Obviously, the
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  Speaker 2: sport has changed. changed over there more than any place
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  Speaker 2: along with Oregon State. But for that one fall in 2018,
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  Speaker 2: big thanks to Gardner Minshew's success on the field, along
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  Speaker 2: with the rest of the team, but his success on
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  Speaker 2: the field and who and what he was as just
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  Speaker 2: a human being and a personality changed everything. And we
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  Speaker 2: all see that now. It's pretty cool. I mean, it's really,
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  Speaker 2: really cool. And yeah, and I just, every time I
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  Speaker 2: see Gardner and You know, people, oh, you know, he's weird,
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  Speaker 2: he's quirky, he drives Winnebago, blah, blah, blah, where's the George?
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  Speaker 2: All those things are true. All those things are true.
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  Speaker 2: And the story is usually, hey, he was told by
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  Speaker 2: Mike Leach, you can lead the nation in passing, and
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  Speaker 2: he came up there, sight unseen to Pullman, where the
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  Speaker 2: hell am I going? Here I am. What he did
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  Speaker 2: for that campus and for the young people on that
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  Speaker 2: campus specifically and that program and the people in that program,
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  Speaker 2: Can't ever be forgotten. And it was just kind of unsaid.
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  Speaker 4: Bye.
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  Speaker 2: It was not intentional, but it's also where sports can
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  Speaker 2: be phenomenal for sports can be really, really fun. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and so I, I find myself torn. I want him
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  Speaker 2: to get sacked seven times on Sunday, uh, ideally throw
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  Speaker 2: a couple of picks and all that. And yet at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, I just always root for him. I
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  Speaker 2: just always root for him. And no matter what happens
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  Speaker 2: Sunday or anywhere down the road, the guy's made enough
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  Speaker 2: money to generational money. That part's remarkable. It also tells
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  Speaker 2: you about pro sports these days. That guy's made $ 28
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  Speaker 2: million in his career. But, you know, Gardner Minshew, thank
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  Speaker 2: you for everything you did for our campus over the years. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell will talk about Gardner Minshew and everything else
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  Speaker 2: relating to the game coming up on Sunday, Trav. We've
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  Speaker 2: got that coming up. We've got Danny O'Neill. We've got
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell from over there. Because you haven't had enough
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell today, right? All week? You said I haven't heard.
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  Speaker 2: I have not had enough Greg Bell. I mean, Greg's
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  Speaker 2: great at what he does, though.
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  Speaker 4: He is.
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  Speaker 2: And he's over there grinding. He's on his way right now.
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  Speaker 2: Drive safe, buddy. It's starting to rain. We'll check in
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  Speaker 2: with Greg. He'll give us the latest when he has
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  Speaker 2: a chance to talk to Mike McDonald in the 1
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  Speaker 2: o'clock hour. We'll find out that extensive list I just
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  Speaker 2: went through, who's in, who's out, what's going on, who's
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  Speaker 2: a game-time decision. But we come back. The man himself,
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  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell. It's all Greg today. It's all Greg show
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  Speaker 2: all the time. This is a Greg with one G, though.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell talks about the game. He'll break it down
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  Speaker 2: for us next. It's time to visit with one of
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  Speaker 2: our favorites.
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  Speaker 1: It's Ian's weekly visit with Greg Cosell from NFL Films
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  Speaker 1: and ESPN Matchup Show. What does the tape say about
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Greg Cosell joining us. Love this.
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  Speaker 2: Every week, getting a chance to talk to our good
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  Speaker 2: friend Greg Cosell, ESPN Matchup Show, the NFL Films guru,
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  Speaker 2: and hello, sir. How are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing okay. How are you? Are they hanging in
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  Speaker 4: there out there, or what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's a little stressful out here. It's
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  Speaker 2: getting a little stressful. You know how it is. You
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  Speaker 2: know how it is. A little stressful out here.
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  Speaker 4: I do. I've been doing this a long time. I
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  Speaker 4: get it.
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  Speaker 2: Defending Super Bowl champs have that huge win against Kansas City.
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  Speaker 2: Then they take one on the chin against Chicago on
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  Speaker 2: Monday Night Football, and, you know, I... you know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what you saw when you looked at the
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  Speaker 2: film on Tuesday morning, but you know, out here, we
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  Speaker 2: saw a team that struggled offensively. They struggled defensively in
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  Speaker 2: the red zone. Uh, Sam Darnold, it turns out was
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  Speaker 2: hurt when it was all said and done. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and then Jeffrey Simmons made a difference. So what'd you
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  Speaker 2: see on tape?
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  Speaker 4: Um, you know, it was just being honest because these
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  Speaker 4: Monday night games, I can't stay awake and watch the
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  Speaker 4: entire games because I'm in the office at five 15
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  Speaker 4: in the morning Eastern time. So, you know, I saw
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  Speaker 4: the first half, um, And then, uh, when I got
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  Speaker 4: up and saw the score, I was a little surprised. Um,
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  Speaker 4: you know, when I watched the tape, it was one
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  Speaker 4: of those games, uh, with their defense where I almost
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  Speaker 4: felt it seemed almost more like death by a thousand cuts.
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  Speaker 4: Like I didn't come away from the game feeling like
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  Speaker 4: their defense was just handled. Um, cause you know, some
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  Speaker 4: of the bigger plays came with, you know, run after catch,
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  Speaker 4: or I guess even the Raymond 39 yarder was considered
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  Speaker 4: a run, but it was really a tunnel screen. Um,
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  Speaker 4: And that obviously was a big play that kind of
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  Speaker 4: took the game out of reach in the fourth quarter. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I thought obviously Jeffrey Simmons was a big
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  Speaker 4: factor in the game. He's the best defensive tackle in
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  Speaker 4: the game. And obviously with Zabel moving to right guard
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  Speaker 4: for the first time, you know, that's different. People might
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  Speaker 4: assume that it's just the same thing, but it's not.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you're just everything is left-handed, so to speak.
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  Speaker 4: And Simmons just had dominant snaps against Zabel, which obviously
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  Speaker 4: when Zabel played left guard, not many had dominant snaps
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  Speaker 4: against him. And I thought that the Bears on defense
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  Speaker 4: did a really good job when they were in the
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  Speaker 4: base defense, which you play a lot of against the
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks because they play a lot of base offense, whether
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  Speaker 4: it's multiple tight ends or the fullback Russell. So what
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  Speaker 4: the Bears did, which is kind of what they do,
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  Speaker 4: is they would put Sewell on the ball on the
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  Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, and it becomes a five-man front. And
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  Speaker 4: when it's a five-man front, you very often get one-on-one
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  Speaker 4: matchups with the defensive line versus your offensive line. And
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  Speaker 4: Simmons lined up inside of Sweat 29 times in the game.
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  Speaker 4: So they wanted to do that. That was obviously not
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  Speaker 4: done on a whim. And the other interesting thing the
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  Speaker 4: Bears did is they had been a high-percentage blitz defense
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  Speaker 4: prior to this game. 40% of all quarterback dropbacks, they
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  Speaker 4: had rushed five or more because Dennis Allen is very
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  Speaker 4: good at that, their D coordinator. In this game, they
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  Speaker 4: only rushed five or more 15% of the time. So
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  Speaker 4: the question is, was that because of Simmons or was
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  Speaker 4: that more a function of the fact that they were
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  Speaker 4: playing a team that lines up a lot in base offense?
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  Speaker 4: So we don't know the answer to that if you're
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  Speaker 4: thinking Bears perspective, but the Seahawks clearly on offense, they
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  Speaker 4: still struggle in the run game quite a bit. they
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  Speaker 4: want to run the ball. I think they have the
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  Speaker 4: eighth most rushes in the NFL, but of the teams
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  Speaker 4: that have, that are in the top 10 in terms
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  Speaker 4: of rush volume, they have the lowest average yards per rush. It's,
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: I think it's 3.7. So they've not been able to
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: generate any kind of consistency with a run game this year. Yeah.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: And, you know, they do get Joe Darien price and
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Zach Charbonnet back last week. And they kind of ease
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: those guys in a little bit. Emmanuel Wilson didn't even
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: have a, a carry in the game. I think Kalani
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: just had the one. You mentioned the offensive line with
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Nelson going to left guard, and we talked about this
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: a week ago. We expected that to happen. It did.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: They talked about it. They said he was going to
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: play there, and then Zabel goes to the right side.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Do you think it's just that transition? A, you're playing
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: a great defensive line, and B, the transition. We would
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: probably expect to see some improvement this week.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: I would think so. Nelson had an up-and-down game, both
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: around blocking and in pass pro, which is to be expected.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: It's just different. You know, you're playing with different people,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: and that makes it harder. We mentioned Zabel had some issues.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: You know, the Seahawks predominantly slid their offensive center, Sundell,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: to Simmons' side, which makes perfect sense because you feel,
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: of course, that Nelson had left guard because Simmons predominantly
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: lines up on the left side of the defensive line,
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: the right side of the offense. So they would slide
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Sundell there, and then they let Nelson block one-on-one versus
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: whoever it was, Grady Jarrett, Lynch, whoever it was. And
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, that's also a function of who
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: you're playing because Simmons is that good. But, you know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I would expect that to be better. And, you know,
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: it's funny because I still think that there's something there
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: with Price. And I know it was his first game back. But,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: you know, he had an eight or nine yard run.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: I think it was eight yards on the third possession.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: I thought that was a good snapshot of who he is.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: To me, he's got a natural feel for the mid
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: and outside zone run game. I think he runs with
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: an innate sense of patience, yet decisiveness. And hopefully he'll
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: stay healthy and they can really work him into the
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: role that they clearly anticipated. And when they drafted him,
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: they drafted him to be whatever their definition of a
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: feature back is, because I know they still have now
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: have Charbonnet. But I mean, they didn't draft him to
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: get eight carries a game. They drafted him to be
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: their definition of a feature back.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: You always wonder, too. I mean, we don't know this,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: but you always wonder how much of a function of
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the game it is, too. You end up starting to
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: try to throw the ball more. Greg, you've talked to
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: coaches over the years. You've studied more tape than anybody
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I know. With any successful run game, does the word
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: patience have to come in? And then I'll bring that
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: in with you got a first-time play caller. And what
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I mean by that is, And I brought this up
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: earlier in the week on the show. You know, there's a,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: and I love, you know, perception isn't always reality. There's
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: a perception in this city, you know, every time Marshawn
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Lynch touched the ball, he got minimum five, six, seven yards, right?
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: And just plowed through guys and got yards. And I
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: covered all his games. There were a lot of times
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: when it was a one or two yard gain and
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: you just got to stick with it. When you've talked
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: to coaches and play callers and guys over the years,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: is that one of the bigger challenges with a run
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: game is just staying patient sometimes?
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Yes. Because the run game, even with great backs, Ian,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: and you know this. You've been doing this a long time.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: You've seen a lot of good backs. Obviously, Marshawn Lynch,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: a really good back. Chris Carson, another really good example
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: of that. There's a lot of one- and two-yard runs.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: And then you get a three-yard run. Then you get
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: a five-yard run. Then maybe you get a nine-yard run.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: You don't get a lot of 28-yard runs. So that's
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: where the rest of your team comes into play. Because obviously,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: you have a good defense. And we're certainly not prepared
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: to say the Seahawks defense isn't good because of what
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: happened the other night. And as I said, that was
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: kind of an odd game for me watching. You know,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I didn't get the sense that they were manhandled on defense.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: But the point is, they've got a good defense. We
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: know that. So, yes, you know, patience is a big
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: deal in the run game. And I would think that
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Brian Fleury would intuitively understand that given where he came
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: from with the Niners. But sometimes coaches can get impatient.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: If you get a one-yard gain, a two-yard gain, and
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: they feel like, okay, why am I doing that? If
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: I throw the ball, I can get more than that.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: But sometimes that's fool's gold. One of the things I've
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: really noticed in the league, and this is anecdotal because
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: I'm one person, so I can't sit here and chart.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Teams have quality control guys and coaches who do all
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: this stuff. With me, I can't do that. But I
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: sense that the run game over the last year or
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: so has really gained in importance in the league. that
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: it's really a big deal to have a run game.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: You think of someone like the Bills. Everybody thinks Josh Allen,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: and he's a great quarterback. That's not my point at all.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: But they are a run-first offense. James Cook, if I'm
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: not mistaken, leads the NFL in first-down rushes and first-down
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: rushing yards.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: And I know Ross Tucker, my good friend, did their
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: game this past week and he interviewed Josh Allen and
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen came right out and said, we're a run
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: first team. You know, at some point you have to
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: be able to run the ball in this league because
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: defense is not only the coaching element, but the athletic
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: element on defense. They're just too good to have to
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: have to drop back 35, 40, 45 times in a
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: given game, you know, by choice. I mean, obviously, if
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: you're down 21-3, that's different. But by choice, it's very
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: hard to play that way.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell with us. Yeah, and to add into the fact,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: look at all the quarterback injuries around the league, how
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: many teams are playing backup quarterbacks. Seattle will do that
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: this week with Drew Locke. Nobody knows except for Drew
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Locke and the Seahawks inside that building how sore his
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: elbow is, if he's going to be limited. He really
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: downplayed it yesterday, Greg, in his media availability. Yeah, I'm
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: ready to go. He said, quote, I'm ready to let
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: it rip. He was limited on the practice report, so
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Jalen Milrow's getting some first-team snaps. We'll see what happens there.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: But with the Seattle passing game, Locke, Darnold, hell, if
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: it's Milrow, it doesn't matter. One of the things we've wondered,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: you're watching these guys on tape. They're very reliant on
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba. Very, very reliant. How badly do
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: you think a team needs a No. 2 receiver? Because
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: they just don't seem to have one right now.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: And again, the one thing I would say about that is,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: and it's not a cop-out, clearly what you see on
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: tape indicates that that's what they do, but we don't
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: know during the week. In other words, does it turn
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: out with the game plan that they want to get
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: the ball to others, and then when they get in
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: the game, maybe Darnold chooses to go to Smith and Jigba?
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: We don't know the answer to that, or I don't
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: know the answer to that. Somebody does. But yes, they're
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: increasingly reliant. And there were times in this game where
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: the Bears bracketed Smith and Jigba. And more and more
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: teams will do that. They're going to, you know, it's
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: the old Bill Belichick. You know, we're going to take
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: away and take away is a relative term. You know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: it's not that Smith and Jigba is going to get
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: no catches. But teams in critical situations, whether it's third down,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: whether it's an important point in the game, will bracket
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Smith and Jigba or double him outright. And then they're
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: going to have to make, whether it's Donald Locke or
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: perhaps even Milrow, you know, make them have to throw
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: the ball somewhere else. And, you know, I don't think
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: they have bad receivers. It's just that they choose. It's seeming,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: it seems to me watching tape. And again, that's what
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know. But what the tape tells you is
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: that they don't throw to other receivers.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: What, what are they going to see? You've got an
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Arizona defense and an Arizona team. That's interesting. They do
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: have a couple of wins against the Rams. And of course,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: last week, Gardner, we'll get to their offense and Gardner
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Mitchell in a second, just looking at their defense or
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: 21st and total defense, their 19th in the run. 15th
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: in the past, but they're allowing 29.8 points a game,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: basically 30 points a game. That's worst in the NFL.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: What do we see on that defensive side for Arizona?
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: You know, they're interesting because they've given up the fifth
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: or sixth most rushes in the league, okay? So teams
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: run the ball, but yet they're only giving up 4.3
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: yards per rush. So it's not as if they're getting gassed,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: but teams run the ball against them. And, you know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: as we just discussed, I think it would not surprise
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: me look, I don't know Mike McDonald. Obviously, he's a
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl winning coach. He's a great coach. I mean,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: you know, that's without question. But you wonder when teams
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: are struggling, and I always wonder about this, you know,
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: how they feel they want to get back to who
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: they are. And I think my sense of the Seahawks
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: is that if they could come out this week, Ian,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: and run the ball with some kind of sustainability, do
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: they have to run for 180 yards?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: No.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: But some kind of sustaining efficiency, and then get back
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: to being a dominant defense, that that's the way they
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: would love for this game to turn out. Against a
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: team that they're clearly better than. But sometimes, as you
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: well know, even really good teams get into some kind
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: of rut that's hard to get out of. Now, I'm
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: not saying they are or aren't in a rut. I'm
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: just saying I've seen that throughout the years. I've been
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: doing this a long time where even really good teams
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: get into a little bit of a rut. And sometimes
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: it seems like it's hard to get out of it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: But I think in an ideal world, they would love
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: for this to be a run-first game. Whoever plays quarterback, Locke, Milrow,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: you know, throw 25 or 26 times and run the
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: ball effectively and then have their defense be dominant and
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: win the game 24 to 10. You know, I think
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: that that would be the ideal, the way they would
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: love this game to play out.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I agree. It's Craig Cosell joining us. Other side of
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the football. We talked a little bit about the Seattle defense,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: but let's talk about what Arizona has offensively. They're an
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: interesting place. They traded away Marvin Harrison earlier this year.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Their No. 1 running back, which was their No. 1
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: draft pick in Love, is out. They're going with Algier,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: but they benched Jacoby Brissett, then traded him to Baltimore,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I guess officially this morning. And Gardner Minshew came in
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: on last week and led them to a win against
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. I love him. He's a coug. He
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: helped our school back in 2018 on more levels than
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: just on the field, just in terms of what we
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: needed at the time. And he always felt like a
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: quality backup, Greg. Maybe he's not going to give you
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: 17 good games in a row, but he's going to
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: give you a couple here or there. What does he bring?
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's one of those, you know, kind
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: of risk guys. You know, he's going to make risky throws.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: But I thought last week he obviously did a really,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: really good job. I thought LaFleur handled him really, really
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: well because he kind of allowed him to play within structure,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: you know, quick game, get the ball out, get into
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: a rhythm, which he did. And then as the second
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: half progressed, he, you know, allowed him to make some
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: tougher throws. Then he made them last week. You know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Minshew's one of those guys that he's always, you know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: kind of, got people excited at times thinking, oh, he
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: could be the guy. And there's a couple of teams
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: that thought he could be the guy. And then it
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: just doesn't work out because when all's said and done,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: for some reason, what he shows early, he doesn't maintain
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: and he kind of loses the clarity in the pocket.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: And he just doesn't see it the right way the
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: more he plays. I'm sure you'd have to talk to
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: defensive coordinators to find out the real reason why. but
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: that's what happens. But don't fall asleep, even with Jeremiah
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Love on IR and maybe with a lost season for him,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: which is a shame. Don't fall asleep on Tyler Algier.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: He is a good back, and he's physical, and he's powerful.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: And normally, look, they have a very good run defense,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: even last week. I mean, Ben Johnson will not give
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: up on the run, so Swift still had 20-plus carries,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: but he didn't gain a ton of yards, relatively speaking.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: This is a very, very good run defense. So I
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: think that's the number one thing in this game. I
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: think they'd feel very comfortable if they stopped the run
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: and Minshew was in longer yardage situations throughout the game.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: They'd feel very, very comfortable with that on the Seattle
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Tight end position, Trey McBride, one of the best in
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: the league.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Really good.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: And I got my guy Anders here today. He stuck
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: around for the morning show for a second. So you
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: guys talked about this morning. What are the numbers with
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Seattle's defense with tight ends?
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so apparently Hugh kind of corrected me on this.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: I kind of had the impression that tight ends have
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: really thrashed Seattle's defense recently. In the 2024 and 2025 season,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: that was the case. That has actually come down quite
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: a bit in the 2026 season. So they're better against
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: tight ends this year. All right, in the third year
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: of Mike McDonough. Well, they better be better, right? Because
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Trey McBride, Greg, is pretty darn good.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're a heavy 11 personnel offense. So, I mean,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: you know, obviously McBride's a great player. So no knock
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: on McBride. They're a heavy 11 personnel offense. That means
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: obviously one back, one tight end, and three wide receivers.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: They're among the top three teams in the league in
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: terms of 11 personnel percentage. So that's what you really
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: have to defend with them. You have to defend their
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: 11 personnel package. So, you know, but the bottom line
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: is you're going to see what the Seahawks do. They'll
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: play big nickel until it gets to, you know, maybe
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: second and long or third and long. And then they'll
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: go to dime. You know, they're basically a big nickel
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: dime team. They don't play a lot of snaps of
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: base defense. And this is an offense that probably is
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: such that they're not going to play a lot of
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: snaps of base defense. So, you know, we'll see how
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: it plays out. But, you know, they've been hurt. at
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: the wide receiver position, I know, is Michael Wilson. I
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: know he's been hurt at times. I don't know the
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: status of some of the wide receivers. It's obviously not
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: a big-time wide receiver group.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure. I'll look it up as you
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: ask me that.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, I know Michael Wilson is a really good player.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think just looking at the– and you
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: never know. We always talk, and then we get the
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: injury report a little bit later on. Michael Wilson, limited participation– Uh,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: so we'll see.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: We'll see what his, uh, what it is.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: They could be playing some guys. Like they could be
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: playing semi for Hoko. They never do. Vernet could be starting,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: you know, the guys, Reggie Virgil, you know, guys who are,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: would not be considered, you know, big time wide receivers,
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: but you know what? They're NFL players. And if they're
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: out there, they're out there.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I got one more for you, Greg, Greg, go sell
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: with us. Again, this is probably bigger picture and just
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: kind of leaning on when you've talked to guys over
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: the years. Seattle, you know, we know Mike McDonald's defensive acumen.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: We know how good he is in terms of, you know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: he's the Ben Johnson of defenses in a sense, right?
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Like Sean McVay, those types of guys. But there's the
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: number that just jumps off the page at us. And
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: that is the fact the Seahawks are 32nd out of 33.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: in the league in red zone defense is there yeah
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: how does that make sense to any of us and I.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Don't and I'm being totally honest I don't know the
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: answer to that so you know I can't sit here
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: and say well they get beat on this all the
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: time which is rarely the case Ian as you know
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: you rarely get, you know, get beat by one thing.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: And I don't know the answer to that. And I
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: wish I did, but I just don't, but that's very,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: very surprising because, you know, they obviously have a really
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: good D line, but, you know, now that we're talking
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: about it, you know, I'm going to look up to
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: see how they're scored against, because you would think they
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: wouldn't be scored against in the run game because they're
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: really good in.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: The run game.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: But maybe that's not so maybe it is the run.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Maybe teams are running on them. I don't know the answer,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: but it, But I agree with you. Given the quality
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  Speaker 4: of their defense and their defensive personnel, that's incredibly surprising.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and now in fairness to them, and
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  Speaker 2: this is like you probably have to extrapolate all the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: numbers and all that, there have been short fields thanks
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: to their offense, right?
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But even looking last week, really, the one real short field, yeah,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: they paid the price for that for the turnover. But
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  Speaker 2: outside of that, there was two double-digit drives by Chicago
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  Speaker 2: that ended up in touchdown. So it's not like it's
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: just like, hey, Sam turns it over, the offense turns
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: it over, and it's a first-and-goal type of situation. They're
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: giving up drives and those red zones. It's one of
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: those weird things, right? You see quirky stats all the time, Greg.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense. How can that defense, as
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: good and talented as it is, be so poor in
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  Speaker 2: the red zone. And by the way, the offense isn't
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: good either. They're 29th. So Seattle's offense in the red zone.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of red zones are problems, you know, the.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Offense has been very inconsistent this year. And a lot
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: of that is because the run game has not been
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: a factor. And you know, again, it's, it's, it's hard
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: to play that way, you know, say what you want.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: And obviously Kenneth Walker isn't there and they chose not
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: to pay him and that's okay. But and they drafted
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: price to, you know, in a sense, be Kenneth Walker.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: You know, we can debate who's got better traits and
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: all that stuff. You know, that's irrelevant. But the point
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: is they expected their run game to be good, and
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: it hasn't been. So, you know, that has really changed
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: the way their offense is. So now what happens, see,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: then it spreads throughout the team. So what happens is
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: if your offense struggles, it puts more pressure on your defense.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: They're going to play more snaps. And it just, then
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: the whole, it permeates your whole team. And, you know,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: so because the good teams kind of it all works together.
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  Speaker 4: We saw that a year ago with Seattle, obviously Super
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Bowl champs. It all worked together. Yeah. And this year,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: you know, it hasn't been quite that way. Yeah.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: A sense of urgency for sure. I just I'm going
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: to wrap it up with one kind of a broader question.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: And you're very familiar because you're in the area. I
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: mentioned this to our friend, our mutual friend, Ross Tucker, yesterday.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: He goes, ah, you know, every year there's a lot
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: of quarterback injuries. It just feels different this year for
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: some reason. I mean, I'll just look at the game.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: In your backyard, Giants and Eagles, both are on, what,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: their third quarterback this year? I mean, Giants have gone from,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: you know, from a starter to a backup to a trade,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: and J.J. McCarthy and the Eagles have now gone for
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: the same thing, and they're getting a trade. Well, I
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: guess they picked, I don't know if they picked up
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Milton off waivers, some of them off the practice squad,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: but I mean, it's, That game, Giants-Eagles, might be the
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: poster child for quarterback injuries this year.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and when that happens, that's where the rest of
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: your team, like let's say, for instance, that Drew Locke
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: who's starting, but let's say after a series or two,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: he can't go or he gets hit or whatever, and
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: it's Jalen Milrow. Then that's where the rest of your
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: team has to become a factor.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: You know, because you can't put Jalen Milrow in and
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: then expect him. And people can't evaluate Jalen Milrow the
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: way they would evaluate a starting quarterback. You can't do that.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, look at the game last night. The Ravens
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: had to play Joe Finiano. And, you know, I don't
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: think anyone was surprised the way that played out. You know,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: it's the rest of your team has to pick that up.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: And it's funny. I was talking because, you know, I
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: talk to Ross Tucker every week. And I said, really,
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: the most important part of that game is the Ravens' defense.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: And they didn't hold up their end of the bargain.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Because that game had to be a 13-10 game. Because
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: you can't expect Vignano. It's totally unrealistic. Just like if
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Milrow has to play, you can't evaluate Milrow as if
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: he's got to go out and put up 35. You
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: can't think of it that way. The rest of your
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: team then has to become the factor in the game.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling some way we'll have a lot
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: of stuff to talk about next week as the Seahawks
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: get ready for the Raiders heading into the bye week.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: So we'll do that next Friday. You look good, by
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: That's a great example. The Raiders have not stopped the
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: run this year at all, and they got the Niners
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: this week.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's Christian McCaffrey, sore leg or not, will be
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: fired up and ready to go. You look great, by
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: the way, in the suit and tie. You look fantastic.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: That's a good look.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I appreciate that. We shot a matchup today,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: and it was a fun shoot because Darius Butler was
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: on assignment, so it was just Sal Palin and myself.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: So I had to play offense and defense today, Ian.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, if anybody can go both ways, it's you,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell. Old school guy playing linebacker and running back
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: in the same game. That's our guy, Greg Cosell, and
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: that's why we love you. You have me on every week,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: all right? Great stuff. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks, Greg.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Thanks, Ian. Appreciate it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell, more to come. Don't forget, we're still going
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: to talk to Danny O'Neill, Rob Rang, all coming up
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: on 93.3 KJRFM.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Now back to the Washington State Beef Commission's Football Friday
• 35:05
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• 35:09
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• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Good stuff there with Greg Cosell and our weekly visit.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: The question still remains, though, who's in for CL? All
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the stuff we were talking about there, I'm like, yeah,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: and we're waiting to hear from our guy Greg with
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: 2G' s bell. Coming up about 1.30 today after he hears
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: from Mike McDonald. Because a lot of the conversation was
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: based on, we're assuming Quentin Nelson's playing.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: We don't know about the edge rushers. We don't know
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: exactly what's going to happen at the quarterback position. We
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: believe Drew Locke is going to start, but can he
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: be as effective as they want him to be? Can
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: he do what he needs to do?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: And I.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: it's all nice and fine to say, yeah, I'm going
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: to go let it rip in practice. The reality is
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: we don't know if he's actually letting it rip in
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: practice and how that elbow feels only. In fact, really
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: the only person knows how the elbow feels is him.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: They can look and see and track how his, you know, how,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: how he's throwing it, what his velocity is, all those things.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. There's a, there's a lot of unknowns.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Seattle should walk away with a comfortable win. I won't
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: say easy. Nothing is easy in the NFL, but they
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: should walk away with a comfortable win. But boy, they're,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: It just feels like looking at that injury report that
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: they are limping towards that bye week. And Greg brought
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: up a great point earlier on the show with you
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: guys traveling. Hey, 19 days. You can go 19 days
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: for a guy like Sam Darnold without playing, getting into
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: the bye week, and that would be huge. I think
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: they'd rather not do that with, say, Nwosu and company,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: because they need him. That hurt them the other day
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: not having him. He's a very underrated part of that defense.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Disruptor.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break, come back. Our friend
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Danny O'Neill is standing by. We'll check in with the
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: dang apostrophe. We'll get his thoughts. He's got some thoughts
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: on DeMond Williams' game last week and where they will
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: go from here with DeMond. We'll talk about the Mariners'
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: new manager. Do you need to win the press conference?
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Do you?
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: And I'm just talking in general terms for sports. We'll
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: talk about that with Danny. All coming up, Rob Rang
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: at 2 o'clock. Factor Fiction, final pick of the week,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: all on 93.3 KGRFM.