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- 0:05Speaker 1: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Bacco and Ed
- 0:09Speaker 1: Troup on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 0:12Speaker 1: Audio Network.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Picking off the 3 o'clock hour with a very special guest,
- 0:20Speaker 2: one of the greatest to ever do it. Quarterback Ben
- 0:23Speaker 2: Roethlisberger was on SNR this week when he joined in
- 0:27Speaker 2: the locker room with our good friends Rob King, Max Starks,
- 0:32Speaker 2: and Willie Colon. What did Big Ben have to say
- 0:36Speaker 2: about the current state of the Pittsburgh Steelers and what's happening? Well,
- 0:40Speaker 2: make sure you take a listen into this.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Max, we've been talking about it, and one thing I
- 0:45Speaker 3: like to do is tap into the phone book and
- 0:47Speaker 3: see who's available. And so I said, let me talk,
- 0:50Speaker 3: let me see what the gods can throw me. Let
- 0:53Speaker 3: me put the finger in.
- 0:54Speaker 4: The sky and see if I can tap on the
- 0:56Speaker 4: Tap on the Valhalla.
- 0:58Speaker 3: Of Pittsburgh Steeling Nation door, and somebody answered.
- 1:03Speaker 4: Not only is he a son of Ohio, but he's
- 1:05Speaker 4: a god in Pittsburgh, two-time Super Bowl champ, our quarterback,
- 1:11Speaker 4: our number seven from my heart to yours, the one and.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Only Big Ben Roethlisberger.
- 1:19Speaker 5: What up, seven?
- 1:20Speaker 6: Oh, I think you got the wrong number. What's up, fellas?
- 1:28Speaker 7: What's up, handsome?
- 1:30Speaker 3: What you got cooking?
- 1:31Speaker 6: It's a pleasant surprise to hear from you two.
- 1:35Speaker 3: Well, you know, they gave us the keys, so we're driving.
- 1:37Speaker 3: We're trying not to crash it.
- 1:40Speaker 8: And so we.
- 1:40Speaker 3: Decided to call see what Devin's up to.
- 1:45Speaker 8: Nothing.
- 1:45Speaker 7: I just picked the kids up from school, got home,
- 1:48Speaker 7: got them some lunch and get them started on some homework.
- 1:51Speaker 7: So I said, don't bother me. I'm going to talk
- 1:52Speaker 7: to my boys. I don't care what's going on. Even
- 1:55Speaker 7: if the house is burning down, don't bother me. I'm
- 1:56Speaker 7: talking to my fellas.
- 2:00Speaker 5: So are you in the basement, though? Are you in
- 2:02Speaker 5: the main cave? That's what I need to know. Are
- 2:04Speaker 5: you up on the main level?
- 2:06Speaker 6: Are you still visible? I am outside. Are you kidding me?
- 2:08Speaker 6: It's Pittsburgh.
- 2:09Speaker 8: It's sunny.
- 2:09Speaker 6: It's 80 degrees. I'm sitting outside right now. It's beautiful.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Oh.
- 2:13Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:14Speaker 8: I know.
- 2:15Speaker 6: It's nice out here. Just enjoying this beautiful fall day
- 2:18Speaker 6: here in the bird.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Seven, are you golfing it up, or are you just
- 2:23Speaker 3: straight dad mode?
- 2:25Speaker 6: Uh, I'm dadding it right now.
- 2:27Speaker 7: Um, because of you guys and my priorities to you guys, I, um,
- 2:31Speaker 7: have my wife take my daughter to volleyball and basketball
- 2:34Speaker 7: so that I could do this with you guys.
- 2:36Speaker 6: Um, and then I'm going to go to the golf
- 2:37Speaker 6: course with my son.
- 2:40Speaker 3: Hey man, let's get right to it.
- 2:45Speaker 6: Awesome.
- 2:45Speaker 3: Seeing you in the stadium Saturday, man. Uh, obviously the
- 2:49Speaker 3: folks love you. They appreciate your career and everything you
- 2:51Speaker 3: was able to do thus far. Um, you still doing
- 2:54Speaker 3: a podcast football with Ben Rosberger. Great. Listen to everybody.
- 2:57Speaker 3: Check that out on YouTube and find it on all platforms. Uh,
- 3:01Speaker 3: still in the six and two going into the buy.
- 3:03Speaker 6: Um, great.
- 3:05Speaker 3: How do you feel about this team? And what, what, what's,
- 3:08Speaker 3: you know, what makes you excited about this team moving forward? Yeah.
- 3:12Speaker 6: You know, it's it was great being there on Sunday.
- 3:16Speaker 7: You know, they asked me, Chinney asked me a couple
- 3:18Speaker 7: of times to do the terrible towel twirl.
- 3:19Speaker 6: And you know me, I like to be at home.
- 3:21Speaker 6: I'm a homebody.
- 3:21Speaker 7: I watch the games on TV, sit on the couch,
- 3:24Speaker 7: have me a course banquet and just kind of relax
- 3:27Speaker 7: a little bit. And he was like, Danny, you know,
- 3:30Speaker 7: we do this once a salute to service. We're having
- 3:32Speaker 7: a three-star general. I'm like, you know what?
- 3:35Speaker 6: You got me.
- 3:36Speaker 7: You know, we, I think all three of us all
- 3:37Speaker 7: feel the same way about.
- 3:38Speaker 6: Our military and, We're going to have support. So I
- 3:40Speaker 6: went out there. It was fun to do that with
- 3:42Speaker 6: him and be there in person to watch the game. And,
- 3:46Speaker 6: you know, it was fun. I did– you know, you
- 3:48Speaker 6: mentioned my podcast.
- 3:49Speaker 7: I had Charlie Batch on last night, which was great
- 3:51Speaker 7: because we got to kind of break down the game
- 3:54Speaker 7: in the first half of the season.
- 3:55Speaker 6: So it's still fresh on my mind. And I would
- 3:58Speaker 6: say this.
- 3:59Speaker 7: I think going into the season, obviously– when you look at,
- 4:02Speaker 7: you know, when the schedule's released, everybody looks at the
- 4:05Speaker 7: whole season.
- 4:05Speaker 6: Okay, when's the bye?
- 4:07Speaker 7: The first thing I think I looked at as a
- 4:09Speaker 7: player is when's the bye week? How far into the season, right?
- 4:13Speaker 7: Is it early week 3-1 where the NFL really got you?
- 4:17Speaker 6: Or is it midway? So I think this bye comes perfect.
- 4:20Speaker 6: But I think, you know, what.
- 4:21Speaker 7: You looked at when you looked at this schedule was, okay,
- 4:23Speaker 7: what kind of a start can we get off.
- 4:25Speaker 6: To because the back end looks like a little hairy?
- 4:27Speaker 7: You were thinking Baltimore twice. You've got the Texans. You've
- 4:31Speaker 7: got Carolina, which at one point was looking good. It
- 4:37Speaker 7: looked like it could get a little dicey on.
- 4:38Speaker 6: The back end. Well, I think all of a sudden–
- 4:41Speaker 6: so I would say this. It's like we have to
- 4:43Speaker 6: get off to a fast start.
- 4:45Speaker 7: Got off to a fast start, got to 6-2, and
- 4:47Speaker 7: now that back half that all of a sudden was looking.
- 4:50Speaker 6: Kind of– the Eagles, right? The Eagles were in there. Yeah,
- 4:53Speaker 6: the Eagles, yeah.
- 4:53Speaker 7: That back half of the schedule that was looking dicey
- 4:55Speaker 7: all of a sudden maybe doesn't look so dicey with
- 4:58Speaker 7: some quarterbacks going down.
- 4:59Speaker 6: Lamar hurts. The Texans maybe aren't playing– maybe they aren't
- 5:04Speaker 6: who we thought they were. They're not playing well.
- 5:06Speaker 7: So– Right now, if I'm a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, I'm
- 5:09Speaker 7: in that locker room, I'm pretty happy with where we are.
- 5:11Speaker 7: I think the bye week comes at a good time
- 5:14Speaker 7: without any crazy major injuries. Obviously, receiver, you know, you're
- 5:19Speaker 7: a really thinner receiver, but you might start getting some
- 5:22Speaker 7: guys back at the right time, get guys healthy to
- 5:24Speaker 7: really make that run on the back half that is
- 5:27Speaker 7: really what it's going to take to make that push
- 5:29Speaker 7: to the playoffs.
- 5:32Speaker 9: Yeah, no, I really like that approach, and you're absolutely right, Ben.
- 5:36Speaker 5: You know, you kind of look at it, and trust me, all.
- 5:39Speaker 9: Of us were looking at when the schedule release was,
- 5:42Speaker 9: when is the bye week, because, you know, we always
- 5:45Speaker 9: made some plans. We wanted to know when was the
- 5:47Speaker 9: bye week and when was that Thursday night game, because
- 5:49Speaker 9: we knew that was mini-bye.
- 5:50Speaker 7: That's right.
- 5:52Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly.
- 5:53Speaker 6: Love the mini-bye.
- 5:54Speaker 9: We took full advantage of mini-byes. But kind of, you know,
- 5:59Speaker 9: I think my question is, not only when we look
- 6:01Speaker 9: at kind of just Aaron, but you said it right there,
- 6:05Speaker 9: just quarterbacks in general around the league, like so many
- 6:07Speaker 9: guys have gotten injured this year.
- 6:10Speaker 5: I mean, you referenced Lamar.
- 6:11Speaker 9: Then Snoop Huntley, his backup is even out, and they're
- 6:14Speaker 9: going on a short weekend playing Jacksonville. You look at
- 6:17Speaker 9: Jalen Hurts' injury. Jane Daniels has been up and down,
- 6:21Speaker 9: and we've seen injuries around the league. Deshaun Watson's in
- 6:24Speaker 9: concussion protocol, and guys are just like, what is it
- 6:27Speaker 9: about this? I mean, is there anything you could say like,
- 6:30Speaker 9: Has the quarterback position kind of been less protected, or
- 6:35Speaker 9: is it a personnel thing?
- 6:37Speaker 6: But a lot of quarterbacks have been injured this season. Well,
- 6:41Speaker 6: I'll say a couple things, Max. They don't make them
- 6:43Speaker 6: like they used to.
- 6:44Speaker 8: Here we go.
- 6:48Speaker 7: Because you because honestly, it's interesting because you can't say
- 6:51Speaker 7: they're not protecting them.
- 6:52Speaker 3: Right.
- 6:52Speaker 6: The rules nowadays protect quarterbacks.
- 6:54Speaker 7: I mean, how many times have we seen hits where
- 6:57Speaker 7: it makes us even as even as a quarterback?
- 6:59Speaker 6: I'll be like, wait, what? I got a head scratcher
- 7:02Speaker 6: like that. That's that's unbelievable.
- 7:03Speaker 3: So.
- 7:04Speaker 6: You know, I think sometimes it's just fluky.
- 7:06Speaker 7: I mean, obviously, who could have predicted the Hertz thing
- 7:08Speaker 7: and Klotz? I mean, that's so crazy.
- 7:10Speaker 6: And Lamar hitting the thumb.
- 7:12Speaker 7: I mean, some of this stuff feels just kind of
- 7:15Speaker 7: crazy and situationally, you know, unique. But, you know, I
- 7:21Speaker 7: think in general, though, the game– has gotten, even though
- 7:26Speaker 7: they've tried to protect and it's, you know, we, we
- 7:28Speaker 7: joke that the players have gotten soft and the league's
- 7:30Speaker 7: gotten soft and.
- 7:31Speaker 6: This, that, and the other.
- 7:32Speaker 7: I also think there's something to be said about how
- 7:34Speaker 7: much more physical, like these, these guys nowadays are bigger, faster, stronger.
- 7:38Speaker 7: It feels like, I mean, look at, look at Pittsburgh.
- 7:42Speaker 7: I mean, they, they have a tight end. That's in
- 7:44Speaker 7: the big Mount Washington. I mean, he's a monster guys that,
- 7:49Speaker 7: that can run and hit and do things. So, I'd
- 7:52Speaker 7: like to maybe think the game has gotten more physical,
- 7:54Speaker 7: and maybe.
- 7:55Speaker 6: That's why some of these things happened.
- 7:56Speaker 7: But, again, it could just be nothing more than just
- 7:59Speaker 7: fluky things, you know?
- 8:01Speaker 3: Ben, I want to talk about Jared Burse. I know
- 8:04Speaker 3: it's behind us. There's so much been wrapped around it
- 8:06Speaker 3: and how much smack he talked going into that game
- 8:10Speaker 3: and obviously didn't have a response. I consider that Mason
- 8:14Speaker 3: McCormick dumped him on his head. But I think one
- 8:16Speaker 3: thing that happened, we saw, and I don't think we've
- 8:19Speaker 3: talked about it enough, The fact that this team, Valet,
- 8:22Speaker 3: went into that game, beat him in all three phases,
- 8:26Speaker 3: answered to his whole thing about being dirty, where they
- 8:29Speaker 3: slammed him on his head, he didn't do anything. But
- 8:31Speaker 3: what I think was exposed, that we saw a mature
- 8:33Speaker 3: team respond at a real, and in a real mature level,
- 8:38Speaker 3: meaning they look like a contending outfit, right? The Steelers
- 8:40Speaker 3: look like, yeah, they play bully ball, but they look
- 8:43Speaker 3: like a mature outfit. Do you contribute that? Because I
- 8:45Speaker 3: remember Omar Khan starting the season, he said, listen, We
- 8:48Speaker 3: kept 11 rookies, but we still have the old guys
- 8:51Speaker 3: on the team. And the reason we have the old
- 8:52Speaker 3: guys is because we want the old guys to teach
- 8:54Speaker 3: the young guys how to be Steelers and how to
- 8:55Speaker 3: be professionals. And so I thought Sunday's game was a
- 8:58Speaker 3: good example of the plan coming into fruition. If you
- 9:02Speaker 3: used to look at Mike McCarthy and his office and
- 9:04Speaker 3: the team as a whole, do you now see this
- 9:07Speaker 3: team as a contender? And do you now think this
- 9:09Speaker 3: team has what it takes to really have a place
- 9:11Speaker 3: at the table come January and make a run?
- 9:15Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you make a good point.
- 9:17Speaker 7: So I didn't realize at the time that that because I'm,
- 9:20Speaker 7: you know, me, I don't do the social media stuff
- 9:22Speaker 7: that that verse was talking all that noise after the
- 9:24Speaker 7: first game. And I was trying to figure out, like,
- 9:27Speaker 7: what was going on, you know, that he got dumped
- 9:29Speaker 7: on his head. And I'm like, man, this guy's chirping
- 9:32Speaker 7: a lot. I was trying. I said it last night. Like,
- 9:34Speaker 7: I don't I don't I never want to attack a player.
- 9:36Speaker 3: Right.
- 9:36Speaker 6: Attack the play, not the player.
- 9:38Speaker 7: But numbers and stats speak for themselves i mean he
- 9:41Speaker 7: really hasn't done it done much and so right he's
- 9:44Speaker 7: doing a lot of chirping and this that and the
- 9:45Speaker 7: other and so i i'd like the fact that the
- 9:50Speaker 7: guys kept in between the lines you know i'm saying
- 9:52Speaker 7: like you just said being a professional being mature it's
- 9:55Speaker 7: kind of like one of those things like okay i
- 9:57Speaker 7: hear you like let's you know you don't need to
- 10:00Speaker 7: hear me.
- 10:00Speaker 6: We don't need to give you bulletin board material.
- 10:03Speaker 7: You're going to get your bulletin board material when they
- 10:05Speaker 7: take a picture of me dumping you.
- 10:07Speaker 6: On your head. In between the lines, right? What more
- 10:11Speaker 6: do you need in terms of bulletin board material than
- 10:14Speaker 6: a picture of view upside down. And honestly, here's what
- 10:18Speaker 6: I like about it. Both you two will appreciate this.
- 10:22Speaker 7: What I like about this group is, yeah, you've got
- 10:24Speaker 7: some veterans that know how to play and do this, that,
- 10:26Speaker 7: and the other and tough.
- 10:28Speaker 6: But to me, and one.
- 10:29Speaker 7: Of the things I said last night on my show
- 10:31Speaker 7: is as we did like a kind of a midway recap,
- 10:33Speaker 7: we talked about an offensive MVP, a defensive MVP, and
- 10:36Speaker 7: a surprise. Like, what's my surprise so far? Going into
- 10:40Speaker 7: this season, my biggest question mark was going to be
- 10:44Speaker 7: the O-line.
- 10:45Speaker 6: Can the O-line protect Aaron?
- 10:46Speaker 7: Can they open the holes in the run game?
- 10:49Speaker 6: What can they do? And to me right now.
- 10:52Speaker 7: The O-line is my– I mean, the way that they
- 10:57Speaker 7: are playing is my biggest surprise in the sense that–
- 11:00Speaker 7: and I don't mean the surprise like I thought they
- 11:02Speaker 7: were going to play bad, in the surprise that.
- 11:03Speaker 6: There was a question around it, right?
- 11:05Speaker 3: Sure, sure, sure.
- 11:06Speaker 7: And so why I say that is– This group right
- 11:09Speaker 7: now is, sure, there's been some hiccups. You get IMAX
- 11:13Speaker 7: in there, and IMAX, you knew you were going to
- 11:15Speaker 7: get your growing pains, right?
- 11:18Speaker 6: But the best thing they could do is throw them.
- 11:20Speaker 7: In and get your growing pains early, get them out
- 11:23Speaker 7: the way, and now what are we doing? We're not
- 11:25Speaker 7: saying his name. And when your name's not getting called
- 11:27Speaker 7: during a game as alignment, that's a good thing.
- 11:29Speaker 8: 100%.
- 11:30Speaker 7: Because we're not talking about getting beat. So wrapping all
- 11:34Speaker 7: that up, Willie, what I'm going to say is, The
- 11:37Speaker 7: group right now that not only is leading the charge
- 11:39Speaker 7: in terms of protecting Aaron and allowing Jalen Warren and
- 11:45Speaker 7: Rico to run for as many yards as they're running
- 11:47Speaker 7: for is they're leading this charge in bully ball. They're
- 11:53Speaker 7: the ones that are slamming dudes on their heads and
- 11:55Speaker 7: not dirty, not penalties, not cheap.
- 11:56Speaker 6: They're the ones just that little extra, right? The neighbor,
- 11:59Speaker 6: that little, let me give you a little something here.
- 12:01Speaker 6: Let me kind of push up off you.
- 12:03Speaker 7: Oops, my knee accidentally got you across the face mask
- 12:06Speaker 7: on the way up. You know how that's, I know
- 12:09Speaker 7: you guys, you guys know this and you guys love it.
- 12:12Speaker 6: You're right.
- 12:12Speaker 7: And so, again, it's not dirty, but it's like I
- 12:15Speaker 7: was at the game, and if you weren't there, you
- 12:18Speaker 7: might not have saw this. I think the end of
- 12:20Speaker 7: the first quarter, we were driving, and the quarter was
- 12:24Speaker 7: running out, and we were on like the four or
- 12:26Speaker 7: five-yard line going to the open end zone, okay?
- 12:28Speaker 6: Well, Max, you might have saw this.
- 12:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:30Speaker 7: Open end zone, 15 seconds on the game clock, and
- 12:34Speaker 7: it's like, okay, is Aaron going to try and do
- 12:35Speaker 7: something crafty? Next thing you know, I see either two
- 12:38Speaker 7: or three of our linemen on a full jog to
- 12:41Speaker 7: the other end of the field. like quarters over, but
- 12:44Speaker 7: we're like, let's go. Like, like I can't wait for
- 12:47Speaker 7: this quarter to be.
- 12:48Speaker 6: Yes. Yeah. I can't wait for this quarter to get old.
- 12:52Speaker 7: Like the, the, the, the timeout to get over because
- 12:55Speaker 7: I want to jam this down your throat. And to me,
- 12:58Speaker 7: they're leading the charge, and that's where it's going to
- 13:00Speaker 7: keep going. They can stay healthy, and they can keep
- 13:02Speaker 7: growing together and learning. Those two, Zach Frazier, man, we
- 13:07Speaker 7: can't talk enough about that young man. He needs to
- 13:09Speaker 7: start getting recognition for Pro Bowls, nods for All-Pro. I mean,
- 13:13Speaker 7: he's going to fall right in the line with the
- 13:16Speaker 7: tradition of the Steelers' greats at center.
- 13:20Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I completely agree.
- 13:22Speaker 9: I think Zach is, you know, and he's not the
- 13:25Speaker 9: most boisterous.
- 13:26Speaker 8: He's not the most talkative.
- 13:29Speaker 9: But like you said, I mean, his nickname that Wolf
- 13:31Speaker 9: gave him was Morgantown Mauler. Like that was the name
- 13:34Speaker 9: that he coined him. And that's exactly what he does.
- 13:37Speaker 9: I mean, he's had some of the biggest matchups, you know,
- 13:40Speaker 9: this season.
- 13:41Speaker 6: Think about this.
- 13:41Speaker 9: Dexter Lawrence, you've had to deal with him. You've had
- 13:44Speaker 9: to deal with other big dudes in the middle. It
- 13:47Speaker 9: just seems like every single week there's a new challenge.
- 13:50Speaker 9: that he's going to have to go up against Mason
- 13:52Speaker 9: Graham last week. He's gone against him twice. And that's
- 13:55Speaker 9: just in our division.
- 13:56Speaker 6: Well, Max, let me tell you something, too. Sorry, Max,
- 13:59Speaker 6: I'm going to interrupt you because I want to echo this.
- 14:01Speaker 7: When he got drafted, Blaine Stewart, who was at West Virginia,
- 14:04Speaker 7: texted me and said, Ben, he will remind you of
- 14:08Speaker 7: Marquise Pouncey.
- 14:09Speaker 6: Enough said.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Really?
- 14:11Speaker 6: Wow.
- 14:12Speaker 7: That's what he said. That was the text I got.
- 14:14Speaker 7: He will remind you of Marquise Pouncey.
- 14:17Speaker 6: And I was like, oh, I kind of was like, yeah.
- 14:22Speaker 3: Right, right, right.
- 14:25Speaker 7: But if you're going to compare people and you're going
- 14:27Speaker 7: to compare someone to Sol 53, here we go.
- 14:33Speaker 3: Real quickly, Seven, because I know we're pressing on time,
- 14:36Speaker 3: and I appreciate your time, brother, seriously. How would you
- 14:39Speaker 3: grade Mike McCarthy up until this point? I've asked a
- 14:41Speaker 3: couple people that. Some people feel like he's done a
- 14:45Speaker 3: great job. A lot of people feel like he's really
- 14:47Speaker 3: started imprinting you know, put his imprint on his team.
- 14:51Speaker 3: And then some people are making a, you know, I
- 14:53Speaker 3: saw something in the headlines earlier this week when I
- 14:57Speaker 3: was kind of combing through stuff, combing through, I think
- 14:59Speaker 3: Bill Simmons has said something on his podcast along the
- 15:01Speaker 3: lines like, you know, with the success of the Steelers,
- 15:04Speaker 3: it looks like you could say Mike Tomlin was holding
- 15:06Speaker 3: his team back last year. Do you think that's true?
- 15:09Speaker 3: Do you think any of that is relevant? Or is
- 15:11Speaker 3: it just Mike McCarthy saying, hey, this is my team now,
- 15:13Speaker 3: watch us work?
- 15:16Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to sit here and
- 15:18Speaker 7: criticize Tom or say this to compare one or the other.
- 15:21Speaker 6: What I think we're seeing is McCarthy saying this is...
- 15:27Speaker 6: the way that I'm going to do it now. Right.
- 15:28Speaker 7: Like I'm not, this is, this is what I'm doing
- 15:31Speaker 7: it this way. This is my, my prints are going
- 15:34Speaker 7: to be all over this team. I mean, I think
- 15:37Speaker 7: he's doing a great job. I mean, the man didn't
- 15:39Speaker 7: even make it to halftime locker room one time. He
- 15:41Speaker 7: spent in the blue tent and they still.
- 15:42Speaker 6: What are we doing?
- 15:44Speaker 7: I mean, when's the last time you heard of a
- 15:46Speaker 7: head coach getting hurt and can't even make it off
- 15:47Speaker 7: the field.
- 15:48Speaker 3: Right.
- 15:53Speaker 7: So, but no, in all seriousness, I think he's doing
- 15:55Speaker 7: a great job. Obviously we're, we're hearing about some of the,
- 15:58Speaker 7: you know, you, you, the biggest news that gets made is,
- 16:01Speaker 7: you know, the him and the Aaron, the, the kind
- 16:03Speaker 7: of the looks they give each other, the riff and
- 16:05Speaker 7: they give each other all that kind of stuff.
- 16:07Speaker 6: But honestly, winning football games, no one cares about anything. Right.
- 16:12Speaker 3: Right.
- 16:13Speaker 8: No, you, yeah, no, you're absolutely right.
- 16:15Speaker 6: Seven.
- 16:15Speaker 9: And I think that that's what you got to be.
- 16:17Speaker 9: We're all weighed against that, right? How many games did
- 16:19Speaker 9: you win? How many did you lose? And, and, I
- 16:23Speaker 9: think that's one of the things. That's why I appreciated
- 16:25Speaker 9: also why you were there, Seven, because you were literally
- 16:28Speaker 9: the Browns killer.
- 16:30Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 16:31Speaker 9: They were trying to have that takeover, and they're like, oh,
- 16:33Speaker 9: all these Browns fans. I imagine when you came out
- 16:34Speaker 9: with the terrible towel, they were like, oh, God, this
- 16:38Speaker 9: is the impending dread that was going to happen.
- 16:41Speaker 7: Max, you know this, and I don't ever want to
- 16:45Speaker 7: be a finger pointer, but I'll point the thumb that
- 16:48Speaker 7: when I walked in there, the Browns got deflated quickly.
- 16:55Speaker 2: And after that, nothing left to be said.
- 16:57Speaker 3: Nothing left to be said.
- 16:58Speaker 6: Nope.
- 16:59Speaker 5: Go ahead.
- 16:59Speaker 8: Take a break, Will.
- 17:01Speaker 3: Hey, thank you, bro. Appreciate you, man. Thank you for
- 17:03Speaker 3: taking the time.
- 17:04Speaker 6: Have a great day.
- 17:05Speaker 3: Have a good time with Junior on the golf course, man,
- 17:08Speaker 3: and talk to you soon.
- 17:09Speaker 6: Fellas, I love you guys. Anything for you guys. Have
- 17:11Speaker 6: a good one, all right?
- 17:11Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger on SNR in the locker room with Willie
- 17:16Speaker 2: Colon there you heard from, Max Starks, and Rob King,
- 17:19Speaker 2: which you can hear every day from 12 to 2
- 17:22Speaker 2: right here on Steelers Nation Radio. More on the Steelers
- 17:25Speaker 2: report whenever we come back. I'm Ed Troop alongside Brian
- 17:28Speaker 2: Bacco right here on Steelers Nation Radio, part of the
- 17:31Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.
- 17:39Speaker 1: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Vacco and Ed
- 17:43Speaker 1: Troup on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 17:46Speaker 1: Audio Network.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Good stuff from Big Ben. Always good to hear from
- 17:50Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers Hall of Fame quarterback. And it was
- 17:53Speaker 2: cool to listen to him interact with two of his
- 17:56Speaker 2: former teammates, with Willie Colon and Max Starks, too.
- 17:59Speaker 5: Got to bring back memories. Fellas in the locker room,
- 18:02Speaker 5: on the flights, on the road. It's so great to
- 18:06Speaker 5: have Max and Willie always in the fold here at SNR.
- 18:10Speaker 5: I mean, and Willie knew this year, so part of
- 18:12Speaker 5: a great recruiting class in 2026 that included five-star recruit
- 18:18Speaker 5: Willie Colon, five-star recruit Vince Williams, two-star recruit Brian Batko.
- 18:23Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.
- 18:24Speaker 2: You're part of that class. You know, I'm not going
- 18:26Speaker 2: to brag or anything, but the.
- 18:28Speaker 5: So is Mike McCarthy, really, when you think about the
- 18:30Speaker 5: overall organizational recruiting class for 2026.
- 18:34Speaker 2: The 2025 class last year that I came in with
- 18:37Speaker 2: was just me and I think Chris Adamski. I think
- 18:39Speaker 2: just Chris and I were the only two. So I
- 18:40Speaker 2: don't know that you guys definitely definitely passed us up
- 18:44Speaker 2: with Willie and Vince Williams yourself. I mean, that's that's
- 18:47Speaker 2: an all star class, my friend.
- 18:49Speaker 5: I'm just along for the ride.
- 18:50Speaker 2: That's it. Me, me and you both, brother.
- 18:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:53Speaker 5: Shout out to Ben. Thanks for coming on the on
- 18:55Speaker 5: the the the SNR family here.
- 18:58Speaker 2: And up next, we're going to have Matt Williamson from
- 19:00Speaker 2: SNR's Drive. You're going to hear Matt back-to-back, so you'll
- 19:02Speaker 2: hear him with us at the tail end of our show,
- 19:04Speaker 2: and then he'll join quickly. We're going to make some
- 19:07Speaker 2: radio magic happen. He will quickly run across the hallway
- 19:10Speaker 2: and join Wes Euler to bring you today's drive. Brian
- 19:14Speaker 2: Bacco and myself wrapping up our second hour here. Before
- 19:18Speaker 2: we wrap it up, I should say, with Matt Williamson,
- 19:22Speaker 2: we are going to talk briefly about the NFL. You
- 19:24Speaker 2: mentioned some key games in the AFC Northeast. the first
- 19:27Speaker 2: of which will happen on Thursday night football. Jaguars, Ravens. Boy,
- 19:32Speaker 2: if Lamar Jackson isn't out for this game, even for
- 19:35Speaker 2: that matter, Huntley, Snoop Huntley, this is definitely one to
- 19:39Speaker 2: pay attention to in the AFC North. It still is,
- 19:41Speaker 2: but I think it'll be interesting to see the quarterback spot,
- 19:45Speaker 2: how that will develop within Baltimore. Again, reportedly Jacoby Bursette
- 19:48Speaker 2: on the move from Arizona to Baltimore. He will not
- 19:50Speaker 2: be there for tonight, but he could be there 10
- 19:52Speaker 2: days from now.
- 19:54Speaker 5: He could be. And I, what I kind of love
- 19:56Speaker 5: about it is Jacoby Bursette has played for a lot
- 19:59Speaker 5: of teams in the NFL and he has started a
- 20:02Speaker 5: lot of games. He's also been reliable backup for a
- 20:05Speaker 5: lot of clubs, but Ravens will be a new one
- 20:07Speaker 5: for him. Here's the list. For Brissette, Patriots, that's who
- 20:12Speaker 5: drafted him in the third round back in 2016. So
- 20:15Speaker 5: Tom Brady was still there then. It's been a long,
- 20:18Speaker 5: long road for Brissette out of NC State. I didn't
- 20:21Speaker 5: realize he transferred from Florida. Then he goes to the
- 20:24Speaker 5: Colts for a few years. That's where I feel like
- 20:27Speaker 5: he probably played the most was in Indy, right?
- 20:29Speaker 2: That's where he started against the Steelers, right?
- 20:32Speaker 5: I believe he was the starter. Yeah, I think he
- 20:33Speaker 5: started at least one game against the Steelers.
- 20:34Speaker 2: Here at Accusure.
- 20:36Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was their full-time starter for two of
- 20:37Speaker 5: four years. Did he come in there because of the
- 20:40Speaker 5: Andrew Luck stuff?
- 20:41Speaker 2: I think so. I think he was next man up.
- 20:42Speaker 5: I mean, four and 12 in 17 and seven and
- 20:45Speaker 5: eight in 2019. But then he goes, spends a year
- 20:48Speaker 5: with the Dolphins in 21, spends a year with the
- 20:50Speaker 5: Browns in 22. He was their primary starter in 22.
- 20:56Speaker 5: He started 11 games for the Browns, went four and seven.
- 20:59Speaker 5: Then the Commanders in 23, Patriots in 24, Cardinals in 25,
- 21:04Speaker 5: and now it'll be Ravens slash Cardinals in 26. But
- 21:09Speaker 5: that's going to be, let's see here, one, two, three, four, five, six,
- 21:12Speaker 5: seven teams in seven years.
- 21:14Speaker 6: Wow.
- 21:15Speaker 2: Jaguars five and two, Ravens four and four. You did
- 21:18Speaker 2: your math like I do, Brian, on your hand right
- 21:20Speaker 2: there with your fingers. Years tripped me up. I know
- 21:23Speaker 2: me too, because you got to do that whole, if
- 21:25Speaker 2: they started in 2020, that's year one. You know, you
- 21:28Speaker 2: just can't do the simple math of 2020 to 2029
- 21:30Speaker 2: is nine. No, technically it's 10 because 2020 counts as
- 21:33Speaker 2: its own number.
- 21:34Speaker 6: Okay.
- 21:34Speaker 5: Anyhow, we move on.
- 21:35Speaker 2: Bengals Falcons. You mentioned it. It's the international game in Madrid.
- 21:40Speaker 2: Sunday morning, 9.30 a.m., Bengals 5-2, Falcons 3-5, a game
- 21:44Speaker 2: in which the Bengals should win, but we'll see if
- 21:47Speaker 2: the Falcons have any fight in them. It is an
- 21:49Speaker 2: international game, and good news for the Steelers, for what
- 21:51Speaker 2: it's worth, they'll get the Bengals coming back after this
- 21:54Speaker 2: international game for the following Sunday.
- 21:56Speaker 5: I have to imagine that's the highest over-under of the week,
- 22:00Speaker 5: and it is. It's tied, actually, with Raiders 49ers, 52.5.
- 22:04Speaker 5: I don't know if the Niners are going to give
- 22:07Speaker 5: up that many points. That's a lot. But I digress. No,
- 22:09Speaker 5: I think there's going to be some fireworks between Cincy
- 22:12Speaker 5: and Atlanta. Joe Burrow went off last week, and they
- 22:15Speaker 5: needed every bit of it to beat the Titans. What
- 22:18Speaker 5: a bummer. What a bummer for Tennessee. That would have
- 22:20Speaker 5: been such a rousing win for Robert Sala if they
- 22:24Speaker 5: would have won after trading away Jeffrey Simmons. But they didn't.
- 22:28Speaker 5: They took the Bengals to OT in Cincy and still
- 22:31Speaker 5: came out on the wrong end of it.
- 22:33Speaker 2: Well, interesting to see. I think it'll be interesting to see.
- 22:37Speaker 2: This Bengals defense, how they react. They've given up, what,
- 22:39Speaker 2: 72 points in and around that the last two weeks.
- 22:43Speaker 2: This Falcons team, there is one thing about Atlanta. Maybe
- 22:46Speaker 2: their defense has had some struggles, but their offense can
- 22:49Speaker 2: get going, and if it can. We'll see if they
- 22:51Speaker 2: can keep up with Joe Burrow and that offense. The
- 22:53Speaker 2: other AFC North game at 1 o'clock on Sunday, Browns 5-3.
- 22:56Speaker 5: The only one that's not in a standalone time slot.
- 22:59Speaker 5: That's it this week.
- 22:59Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, good call. Got Thursday night and early
- 23:02Speaker 2: Sunday morning. 1 o'clock on Sunday, Browns are 5-3. The
- 23:05Speaker 2: Saints are 2-5. Browns will have to travel to New Orleans,
- 23:09Speaker 2: so I will say that. Regardless of what the Saints
- 23:12Speaker 2: are doing, as far as a season goes, Brian, that's
- 23:14Speaker 2: a tough place to play.
- 23:16Speaker 5: Yeah, it is, and they're going to be coming off
- 23:18Speaker 5: their bye week, so if there's a last stand in
- 23:21Speaker 5: them to get this second half of the season started okay,
- 23:24Speaker 5: then this is what they need this week against the Browns.
- 23:27Speaker 5: Need a win. Maybe the Saints fans will turn out
- 23:29Speaker 5: in full force, not give up on this team just yet,
- 23:31Speaker 5: nor should they, because you look at that division. I'm
- 23:35Speaker 5: sure that Panthers, Saints, Bucs, and Falcons fans are all
- 23:38Speaker 5: varying degrees of disappointed in their clubs thus far, considering
- 23:42Speaker 5: they're all under. 500. But you've got to stay invested
- 23:45Speaker 5: and stay bought in as a fan, right?
- 23:47Speaker 2: Yes, for sure.
- 23:48Speaker 5: The goals of this season are still in front of
- 23:50Speaker 5: you if they can just go on a little bit
- 23:51Speaker 5: of a run. And I don't think it's asking too
- 23:54Speaker 5: much to beat the Browns at home coming off of
- 23:56Speaker 5: your bye and the Browns coming off of a game
- 23:59Speaker 5: in which they got eviscerated by the Steelers in Pittsburgh.
- 24:05Speaker 5: We still don't know if Deshaun Watson or Shadur Sanders
- 24:07Speaker 5: is starting.
- 24:08Speaker 2: Other games ending around 1 o'clock on Sunday. Some stinkers,
- 24:11Speaker 2: if you will. Cowboys 3-5 at Colts 2-6.
- 24:13Speaker 5: Yeah, not a great slate this weekend, is it?
- 24:16Speaker 6: Nope.
- 24:16Speaker 2: Jets 2-6 at the Chiefs 5-2.
- 24:19Speaker 6: But who knows?
- 24:19Speaker 2: I mean, one thing the NFL has taught us this
- 24:21Speaker 2: season is sometimes these games that look like they're going
- 24:24Speaker 2: to be a blowout aren't, and there's an upset in
- 24:25Speaker 2: the making.
- 24:26Speaker 5: Broncos-Panthers hold some intrigue, I suppose, for Steeler Nation specifically.
- 24:30Speaker 5: Both those teams are on the schedule in December. Broncos
- 24:33Speaker 5: are late November, actually. Yeah, that's a 1 o'clock. I
- 24:36Speaker 5: guess that's probably the best 1 o'clock game.
- 24:39Speaker 2: Giants-Eagles?
- 24:42Speaker 6: Maybe.
- 24:42Speaker 5: Mildly curious in what Joe Milton will do.
- 24:46Speaker 2: Lions-Dolphins, as I said. Rams-Commanders. You just mentioned Broncos-Panthers.
- 24:51Speaker 5: I actually do think Brown-Saints is probably the game that
- 24:54Speaker 5: maybe interests me the most, especially if Shadur's starting.
- 24:58Speaker 2: See if the Saints can get him.
- 24:59Speaker 5: Be a novelty of some sort.
- 25:00Speaker 2: See if the Saints can give them a game there
- 25:02Speaker 2: early on. The 4 o'clock window on Sunday features the
- 25:05Speaker 2: Texans 2-5 against the 0-7 Chargers.
- 25:08Speaker 6: Yikes.
- 25:09Speaker 5: Avert your eyes.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Do the L.A. Chargers finally get their first win of
- 25:13Speaker 2: the season this weekend? We shall see. Packers-Patriots, there's a
- 25:17Speaker 2: good one. 5-3 Packers. Yeah, that's probably the game of
- 25:20Speaker 2: the day. 5-3 Patriots, that'll be a good one. Raiders,
- 25:23Speaker 2: 4-4 at the Niners, who are 6-1, rather.
- 25:26Speaker 5: A little Bay Area bad blood. I mean, obviously the
- 25:29Speaker 5: Raiders aren't in the bay anymore but old old rivalries
- 25:33Speaker 5: die hard there.
- 25:34Speaker 2: Cardinals three and five seahawks four and four.
- 25:37Speaker 5: Uh drew lock under center for seattle sam darnold got.
- 25:40Speaker 2: Injured i just saw that yeah yeah concussion.
- 25:43Speaker 5: Uh no a quad or something something okay you got
- 25:45Speaker 5: beat up by the bears in that game.
- 25:47Speaker 2: Who had the oh uh deshaun watson right duh we
- 25:50Speaker 2: were talking about it i was like somebody a starting
- 25:51Speaker 2: quarterback just went out with a concussion uh sunday night
- 25:54Speaker 2: football the buccaneers are three and five at the bears.
- 25:57Speaker 5: That's a decent game again all of a sudden i.
- 25:59Speaker 2: Think that'll be okay And then the Monday night game,
- 26:01Speaker 2: Bills 6-1 at Vikings 6-1.
- 26:03Speaker 5: There's your game of the week. And Carson Wentz might
- 26:05Speaker 5: be starting. I just saw reported earlier today.
- 26:09Speaker 2: Not Kyler Murray.
- 26:10Speaker 5: I think it's an injury thing for Kyler Murray, but
- 26:12Speaker 5: might also be partially Kyler Murray's not playing very well.
- 26:15Speaker 5: And this is a team that the defense is carrying
- 26:19Speaker 5: the water for everybody. Yeah, I mean, that's going to
- 26:23Speaker 5: be a good game on Monday night, regardless of who's
- 26:25Speaker 5: at QB for the Vikings, because that defense is Menacing.
- 26:30Speaker 5: They finally let their guard down just enough against the
- 26:33Speaker 5: Lions to drop their first game of the season. But
- 26:36Speaker 5: it was 1915. It's not like that Lions offense was
- 26:39Speaker 5: flying high at Ford Field. The Vikings still held them
- 26:42Speaker 5: to 19 points. So we'll see what happens when the
- 26:45Speaker 5: unstoppable Josh Allen meets the immovable Vikings. That's probably the
- 26:49Speaker 5: game of the week. But yeah, Packers Patriots should be
- 26:52Speaker 5: good as well.
- 26:53Speaker 2: There's a couple good ones here and there.
- 26:54Speaker 5: Steelers-Titans, the only team gone by.
- 26:56Speaker 2: I think, yes, only two. I think some of these
- 27:00Speaker 2: games that, you know, the one-win teams versus the two-win
- 27:02Speaker 2: teams that we talked about, especially in that one o'clock window,
- 27:04Speaker 2: I think one of those will go another way. In
- 27:07Speaker 2: other words, I think one of these teams, like, you know,
- 27:09Speaker 2: the one and six Dolphins might give the five and
- 27:11Speaker 2: two Lions a game, something like that. It's not going
- 27:13Speaker 2: to be a clear from top to bottom.
- 27:14Speaker 5: Yeah, Commanders aren't out of it.
- 27:16Speaker 2: One of those teams is going to make some noise.
- 27:17Speaker 5: Commander, nobody's really out of it in the NFC East.
- 27:19Speaker 3: No.
- 27:20Speaker 5: The Eagles feel emotionally out of it. No doubt about that.
- 27:24Speaker 5: But the Commanders and the Cowboys are getting crushed right
- 27:27Speaker 5: now down in Dallas, but they should be able to
- 27:29Speaker 5: go to Indy and.
- 27:30Speaker 6: Get a win.
- 27:30Speaker 2: You would think maybe the Chargers are due for their
- 27:32Speaker 2: first win of the season, but the Texans have come
- 27:34Speaker 2: on a bit, too. They're 2-5, but we've talked about
- 27:37Speaker 2: them maybe making a surge here. They have to.
- 27:40Speaker 5: You should be promoting that game for whatever station that
- 27:43Speaker 5: it's on, because I'm sure it's on CBS.
- 27:45Speaker 3: It is.
- 27:46Speaker 5: Now I am a little. I was like, hey, if
- 27:48Speaker 5: the Texans don't win this game, their season's probably cooked.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And the Chargers.
- 27:52Speaker 6: It's kind of a.
- 27:53Speaker 5: it's a playoff game for the texans going to the
- 27:55Speaker 5: 0 and 7 chargers at sofa stadium at 4 0
- 27:58Speaker 5: 5 p.m.
- 27:59Speaker 2: Sounds like a good build-up whenever we come back speaking
- 28:01Speaker 2: of a good build-up.
- 28:02Speaker 5: First shout out um please i might have mentioned maybe
- 28:05Speaker 5: i mentioned it with williamson i don't know on steelers.com
- 28:09Speaker 5: now though feature on robert spears jennings for me so
- 28:12Speaker 5: make sure to check that out about his navy upbringing
- 28:15Speaker 5: both of his parents instilling a lot of work ethic
- 28:17Speaker 5: in him and Why he's been able to hit the
- 28:19Speaker 5: ground running as a rookie, his seventh rounder. What a steal.
- 28:22Speaker 2: He's been a great draft pick.
- 28:24Speaker 5: I mean, I got some details in there from draft
- 28:26Speaker 5: day and how honestly just frustrated everybody in his family
- 28:31Speaker 5: was and how they had to regroup emotional stuff.
- 28:35Speaker 6: But.
- 28:35Speaker 5: All the emotions have been good for the most part
- 28:37Speaker 5: for Robert Spears Jennings and his parents.
- 28:39Speaker 2: They have been. He's been a big highlight of that
- 28:41Speaker 2: draft class, a late draft pick.
- 28:43Speaker 6: Balling out.
- 28:44Speaker 5: So check that out, Steelers.com. For sure.
- 28:46Speaker 2: Whenever we come back, Matt Williamson from SNR's The Drive
- 28:48Speaker 2: will join Double B and myself. But first, this is
- 28:51Speaker 2: the Steelers Report on SNR, part of the Steelers Audio Network.
- 29:09Speaker 1: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Bacco and Ed
- 29:13Speaker 1: Troup on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 29:16Speaker 1: Audio Network.
- 29:18Speaker 2: Wrapping up hour number two here on the Steelers Report
- 29:21Speaker 2: for today. As we enjoy the bye week, and the
- 29:27Speaker 2: bye week, Double B is a good chance to reflect
- 29:31Speaker 2: on the first half of the season. And for the Steelers,
- 29:33Speaker 2: it just conveniently comes after the first eight games of
- 29:38Speaker 2: the season not quite the halfway point because of the
- 29:40Speaker 2: 17 game schedule but a good chance to take a
- 29:43Speaker 2: look back and with that we welcome in Matt Williamson
- 29:47Speaker 2: who is the co-host with Wes Shuler on the show
- 29:50Speaker 2: that follows us here at four o'clock today on SNR's
- 29:54Speaker 2: Drive Matt welcome into the Steelers report how are you I.
- 29:57Speaker 8: Am fantastic how are you guys doing Doing great.
- 30:01Speaker 5: Doing great, Matt. Yeah, I mean, really, Ed, pay him
- 30:03Speaker 5: his proper heed. It is the flagship show of the station,
- 30:08Speaker 5: of SNR. So we're very honored every time we get
- 30:11Speaker 5: Wes or Matt on with us. That's right.
- 30:12Speaker 2: They get all the fancy gear.
- 30:14Speaker 6: Right, Matt?
- 30:15Speaker 8: That is the fact. I can't deny that. We're the
- 30:17Speaker 8: cleanup hitter.
- 30:19Speaker 2: The cleanup hitter is right. Matt, as we said, the
- 30:22Speaker 2: Steelers are in a great spot, 6-2, all the momentum
- 30:25Speaker 2: in the world, a four-game win streak, four games in
- 30:28Speaker 2: which they've really put it together on both sides of
- 30:30Speaker 2: the ball, offensively running the ball, defensively stopping the run.
- 30:35Speaker 2: Your analysis so far, 6-2, I guess I'll start with this.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Are you surprised that they're 6-2 after eight games? And
- 30:43Speaker 2: if so, what has stood out for you throughout these
- 30:45Speaker 2: first eight games?
- 30:46Speaker 8: A little surprised, sure. I mean, did I think on
- 30:50Speaker 8: when it turned November and right past Halloween, they would
- 30:54Speaker 8: have the league's longest winning streak and be sitting alone
- 30:57Speaker 8: at the top of the division, a really good division? No,
- 31:00Speaker 8: but I thought more of a four or five win situation.
- 31:06Speaker 8: It's always dangerous to look ahead to the schedule, but
- 31:09Speaker 8: the schedule did look favorable before the season started to
- 31:12Speaker 8: this point, you know, pre-buy. So I'm not blown away
- 31:16Speaker 8: by it. But I am pleasantly surprised without question. You
- 31:21Speaker 8: guys mentioned, you know, that the buy obviously is here.
- 31:24Speaker 8: I just wanted to run something by you guys. Like,
- 31:27Speaker 8: it's very welcome. I love that it's in the middle
- 31:29Speaker 8: of the season. I think it's a great time for
- 31:32Speaker 8: the staff to kind of break the season in two halves.
- 31:35Speaker 8: And it also correlates really well with the trade deadline,
- 31:38Speaker 8: whether that matters or not. But part of me would
- 31:41Speaker 8: rather they play tomorrow. I mean, the way they're playing
- 31:44Speaker 8: right now, like, I don't want to sit down at
- 31:45Speaker 8: all and get back out there.
- 31:46Speaker 3: Right.
- 31:47Speaker 5: I'd certainly love to play the Ravens tomorrow or right now,
- 31:49Speaker 5: you know, if you could work the schedule however you
- 31:52Speaker 5: want it. But I suppose I can't complain because, you know,
- 31:55Speaker 5: we'll be getting the Bengals coming off the Madrid trip.
- 31:59Speaker 5: So an international travel game for them. Granted, you wouldn't
- 32:01Speaker 5: have known it that the Steelers had just come back
- 32:03Speaker 5: from overseas, the way they played against the Browns. You know, Matt,
- 32:07Speaker 5: I want to, you know, Ed went big picture, which
- 32:09Speaker 5: is great. I want to try to home in on
- 32:11Speaker 5: some littler things while we're just we've got all sorts
- 32:14Speaker 5: of details that we can get to and we have
- 32:15Speaker 5: time to get to now. I think maybe underappreciated aspect
- 32:20Speaker 5: of this season so far and what the offense has
- 32:21Speaker 5: been doing. I didn't know that Pat Friermuth had this
- 32:24Speaker 5: kind of blocking in him. I mean, I'm old enough
- 32:27Speaker 5: to remember some of the lulls in Steelers football where
- 32:31Speaker 5: everything's going wrong and people are down on everything. And
- 32:34Speaker 5: one of the problems is, oh, Friermuth can't block. I
- 32:37Speaker 5: really like what I'm seeing from him, his personality in
- 32:40Speaker 5: the run game, throwing his body around. It's not just
- 32:42Speaker 5: Darnell Washington. Am I crazy or have you seen that
- 32:44Speaker 5: from 88 as well?
- 32:46Speaker 8: No, not crazy at all. Now, I don't think he's
- 32:48Speaker 8: ever been a bad blocker or a reluctant blocker, but
- 32:52Speaker 8: it's clearly gone up two levels, in my opinion. And
- 32:57Speaker 8: I've been harping on it for weeks now, and I
- 32:59Speaker 8: feel like it is underreported around this team, just the
- 33:03Speaker 8: non-offensive linemen's blocking contributions. And I think it's been extreme.
- 33:09Speaker 8: I think Friermuth is the best example of But even
- 33:13Speaker 8: a new guy like Jeremy Bernard, Metcalf, we know Washington's
- 33:17Speaker 8: a great blocker, but I think all those guys have
- 33:20Speaker 8: leveled up, particularly in space and downfield and with their hustle.
- 33:25Speaker 8: And this goes for any great running back, Derrick Henry's
- 33:29Speaker 8: long runs. I mean, they're almost attributed on the second
- 33:32Speaker 8: level to receivers getting downfield and blowing up safeties and corners.
- 33:37Speaker 8: And I really just think it shows... how much the
- 33:40Speaker 8: team has bought in, you know, to the new coaching
- 33:42Speaker 8: staff and everything that's going on here and the physicality.
- 33:45Speaker 8: That's obviously an overwhelming theme. And I also think Brian,
- 33:49Speaker 8: that some of this goes back to the off season
- 33:52Speaker 8: that when they started making, first off, they hire a
- 33:55Speaker 8: new coach and then we know how the timeline goes.
- 33:57Speaker 8: Free agency comes, they let some people go, they add people,
- 34:00Speaker 8: the draft comes and they have a new roster.
- 34:03Speaker 3: Boom.
- 34:03Speaker 8: Then we go to Latrobe. Almost everybody they added, at
- 34:08Speaker 8: their respective positions was big for their position. You know, like,
- 34:13Speaker 8: Kenny Gainwell's a great player. Just ran for 140 yards yesterday.
- 34:16Speaker 8: But they wanted to get bigger there. You know, like,
- 34:19Speaker 8: Dean is a big corner. It's not just the people
- 34:22Speaker 8: in the trenches. Everybody they added is a plus-size player
- 34:26Speaker 8: for their position.
- 34:28Speaker 2: We're talking with Matt Williamson, co-host of SNR's The Drive,
- 34:31Speaker 2: which follows Brian and I each and every day here
- 34:33Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio and the Steelers Audio Network. You
- 34:36Speaker 2: can catch Wes and Matt. Matt, I'm going to give
- 34:40Speaker 2: you an example that I do pay attention to your
- 34:43Speaker 2: excellent coverage of the Steelers throughout the year. Because in
- 34:45Speaker 2: the offseason, there were two names, and we'll stick with
- 34:47Speaker 2: the offensive line and the blocking, that you loved. One
- 34:51Speaker 2: was Brock Hoffman when they signed him via the Dallas Cowboys.
- 34:54Speaker 2: You thought in the spring that that was one of
- 34:56Speaker 2: their strongest free agent acquisitions on that offensive line. And
- 34:59Speaker 2: Max Ionichor, when the Steelers drafted him in the draft,
- 35:02Speaker 2: you were high on him too. So give me your
- 35:04Speaker 2: feedback now after eight games. Has both Hoffman and Ionichor
- 35:08Speaker 2: met your expectations, exceeded your expectations? I mean, by my count,
- 35:12Speaker 2: my friend, you look pretty good with both of those
- 35:14Speaker 2: assessments because they're both playing at a high level.
- 35:17Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel pretty good about myself about those. And
- 35:21Speaker 8: Brian was calling me Matt Ahanachor earlier this year.
- 35:25Speaker 6: Or Max Williamson.
- 35:25Speaker 8: I'm fine with that. I'm cool with that. I don't
- 35:27Speaker 8: think we have any similarities other than we both like
- 35:29Speaker 8: his game. As for Hoffman, I thought he was perfect.
- 35:34Speaker 8: Dale Lawley and I used to say that B.J. Finney
- 35:37Speaker 8: was a fine rotational interior guy. But I was calling
- 35:43Speaker 8: Hoffman a better version of B.J. Finney. Finney was fine
- 35:47Speaker 8: as a four, and they've had some other similar players
- 35:50Speaker 8: that could help out at all three of those positions.
- 35:53Speaker 8: And heck, heaven forbid, if Frazier were to go down,
- 35:55Speaker 8: Hoffman might even be better at center than guard, just
- 35:58Speaker 8: based off his Dallas tape. We haven't had to see that.
- 36:00Speaker 8: I hope we never, ever, ever do. But he moves really,
- 36:03Speaker 8: really well. The Cowboys line a year ago, did its
- 36:08Speaker 8: best work when he was in there. Now, it doesn't
- 36:10Speaker 8: mean he was their best lineman, but I don't think
- 36:13Speaker 8: that that ripple effect was an accident. He was an
- 36:16Speaker 8: attitude guy. He's a good mover. He's not overly talented.
- 36:20Speaker 8: I knew he wouldn't be crazy expensive. You know, I mean,
- 36:22Speaker 8: you weren't going to pay him Quentin Nelson money or
- 36:25Speaker 8: anything like that. I thought that was a perfect, you know,
- 36:27Speaker 8: get for them and he could compete with Anderson. What
- 36:30Speaker 8: I didn't see coming is, and I had questions about
- 36:33Speaker 8: it until it actually took place, was incorporating the right
- 36:37Speaker 8: side of the line like a hockey line, you know,
- 36:39Speaker 8: and joining those two together. And the more I think
- 36:43Speaker 8: about it, and there's some Monday morning quarterbacking here, I
- 36:45Speaker 8: just think that was incredibly thoughtful and so smart for
- 36:50Speaker 8: Max's development because Hoffman is a former center. By this
- 36:54Speaker 8: line standard, he's an elder statesman, believe it or not,
- 36:57Speaker 8: because everybody's so young. He's the perfect caddy. He's the
- 37:01Speaker 8: perfect kind of mentor to get in the game with Max,
- 37:05Speaker 8: who obviously is a moldable ball of clay, but experience
- 37:09Speaker 8: isn't his friend at this point. You know, like he
- 37:11Speaker 8: goes to Cleveland. That's the first road game the guy
- 37:13Speaker 8: ever played in his life on three days rest, you know,
- 37:15Speaker 8: in a crazy environment. I'm sure he leans on Hoffman
- 37:18Speaker 8: all the time. So when they felt Honitore wasn't quite ready,
- 37:23Speaker 8: I think that hurt Hoffman getting in the lineup as well.
- 37:26Speaker 8: Now we've seen good things from Anderson since. So I
- 37:29Speaker 8: think they handled that expertly. And in terms of Max, yes,
- 37:34Speaker 8: he's going to have growing pains. Faltano still has growing pains.
- 37:37Speaker 8: I mean, tackles are, it makes me a little crazy
- 37:40Speaker 8: because Steeler fans that are my age have rarely seen
- 37:44Speaker 8: a first round tackle because they're too good to draft them.
- 37:48Speaker 8: They draft in the 20s and the tackles go. I mean,
- 37:51Speaker 8: the Belichick never got a first round tackle. So I
- 37:54Speaker 8: think people around here think that you draft a tackle
- 37:56Speaker 8: in the first round and he's never going to get beat.
- 37:59Speaker 8: That's not how the league works. Do you know who
- 38:01Speaker 8: these guys have to block in protection? I mean, okay,
- 38:04Speaker 8: Faltano gives up two sacks to Chase Young. Chase Young's
- 38:08Speaker 8: right behind T.J. Watt on the sack list. He was
- 38:10Speaker 8: the second pick in the draft. He has 17 sacks
- 38:13Speaker 8: in his last 19 games. He gets a sack every week.
- 38:17Speaker 8: You know, I mean, no one said– Boy, how did
- 38:19Speaker 8: Herbig beat Wirfs? Wirfs is like the best tackle in
- 38:22Speaker 8: the league. These guys allow pressures, and it's not a 100%
- 38:26Speaker 8: batting average. And Ahanachor is a perfect example. I think
- 38:29Speaker 8: the world of the whole line, but I think Ahanachor
- 38:34Speaker 8: can be one of the best right tackles in the
- 38:35Speaker 8: league very soon.
- 38:37Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, it's not like
- 38:39Speaker 5: when you're scouting draft prospects and you're pulling up their
- 38:42Speaker 5: PFF page and you're seeing– No sacks allowed. No pressures allowed.
- 38:46Speaker 5: This guy was like, yeah, that's not going to happen
- 38:49Speaker 5: in the NFL. That's very unrealistic. I don't think it
- 38:51Speaker 5: dawned on me until just now with you saying it,
- 38:54Speaker 5: laying it out like this way, Matt. This offensive line
- 38:57Speaker 5: is so symmetrical. You've got the two first round talents
- 39:00Speaker 5: bookending as tackles, pretty nimble guys, light on their feet.
- 39:04Speaker 5: were athletes in other sports in addition to football then
- 39:07Speaker 5: you've got two just red you know what ornery dudes
- 39:11Speaker 5: at guard who were you know the day three draft
- 39:13Speaker 5: pick and an undrafted guy who will just maul you
- 39:16Speaker 5: to no end and then you have the guy in
- 39:18Speaker 5: the middle who doesn't say a word and Zach Frazier
- 39:20Speaker 5: except he's just a road grader out there too so
- 39:23Speaker 5: it's kind of beautiful how this thing has come together
- 39:25Speaker 5: for the Steelers and I think there's a lot more
- 39:27Speaker 5: meat on that bone that is the easy thing to
- 39:30Speaker 5: talk about right now what's the harder part to have
- 39:33Speaker 5: a conversation about is the passing game do you see
- 39:36Speaker 5: some upside there Matt or do you feel like that's
- 39:38Speaker 5: a little bit more cause for concern area for improvement
- 39:42Speaker 5: Achilles heel type thing as we go into the second half.
- 39:45Speaker 8: Real quick, I don't know if this analogy flies at all,
- 39:48Speaker 8: but when you laid out that offensive line, it almost
- 39:50Speaker 8: felt like they got Sidney Crosby at center, and they
- 39:54Speaker 8: have these two wings that could end up being 60
- 39:57Speaker 8: goal scorers, and then the two guards are your third-line
- 40:01Speaker 8: gritty a-holes that nobody wants to play against.
- 40:04Speaker 5: They're goons, Matt. They're goons.
- 40:06Speaker 8: They absolutely are. The passing game worries me a lot.
- 40:11Speaker 8: Some of it's quarterback-driven. Some of it's Metcalf driven. Some
- 40:15Speaker 8: of it's attacking the entire field driven. And I think
- 40:23Speaker 8: you can look at this two ways lately. They haven't
- 40:26Speaker 8: had to have an expansive passing game to win these
- 40:29Speaker 8: last couple games.
- 40:30Speaker 2: Right.
- 40:30Speaker 8: So why flirt with it? You know, and I think
- 40:33Speaker 8: there's something to be said for that. I saw the
- 40:36Speaker 8: other day that Rogers has thrown six interceptions and three
- 40:39Speaker 8: of them basically were dropped. You know, I mean, they were.
- 40:42Speaker 8: So in reality, he's not putting ball in harm's way.
- 40:46Speaker 8: And why even tempt fate if you don't have to?
- 40:50Speaker 8: I do think their screen game is unbelievably potent, no
- 40:53Speaker 8: matter who they get the ball to. If it's Bernard Warren, Metcalf, Washington,
- 40:58Speaker 8: Friar Muth, and you get all that train going. blocking
- 41:01Speaker 8: for him that we mentioned of being really good in
- 41:04Speaker 8: space that are non linemen. But I would think to
- 41:08Speaker 8: really take this thing to the next level, a true
- 41:11Speaker 8: drop back attack, the middle of the field passing game
- 41:16Speaker 8: is definitely lacking at this point. And really where your
- 41:21Speaker 8: money's made passing in this league, what really separates the
- 41:24Speaker 8: big time passing games and the big time quarterbacks is
- 41:27Speaker 8: between 10 and 20 yards in the middle of the field.
- 41:31Speaker 8: Throwing deep isn't necessarily hard. You know, I mean, throwing
- 41:35Speaker 8: in the middle of the field in that 10 to
- 41:37Speaker 8: 20 range is where you see the same guys every
- 41:40Speaker 8: year lead the league. And it's Allen and it's Mahomes
- 41:43Speaker 8: and it's Lamar and it's Burrow. And it's not an accident.
- 41:46Speaker 8: You know, red zone and that 10 to 20 range
- 41:49Speaker 8: is really what takes you to the next level. And
- 41:51Speaker 8: that area worries me. And to be frank, I don't
- 41:55Speaker 8: have a lot of confidence even in Rogers deep balls
- 41:58Speaker 8: at this point. I mean, is it all on him? No,
- 42:02Speaker 8: but he has completed a very low percentage of even
- 42:05Speaker 8: just go balls or even given his players a chance.
- 42:08Speaker 8: And we know he has the arm strength, but that
- 42:10Speaker 8: doesn't mean he has the feel and the touch still
- 42:14Speaker 8: to drop those balls where they need to be at
- 42:16Speaker 8: his age.
- 42:17Speaker 2: Man, I completely agree. I think the Steelers right now
- 42:20Speaker 2: at 6-2 and where they sit, definitely the favorites in
- 42:23Speaker 2: the AFC North. I think that gets you a home game.
- 42:25Speaker 2: I think they're in a great spot to win potentially
- 42:27Speaker 2: their first playoff game in over 10 years. But if
- 42:30Speaker 2: you start taking the next step in that conversation to
- 42:33Speaker 2: compete for the AFC Conference, maybe make the Super Bowl
- 42:37Speaker 2: and contend there. It's a glaring need right now. The
- 42:39Speaker 2: wide receiver room, DK underperforming so far. No true answer.
- 42:44Speaker 2: Number two, now we have all these chips in this
- 42:46Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Jr. basket that when he returns off the IR,
- 42:49Speaker 2: maybe he can give them a boost there. But my
- 42:51Speaker 2: question for you, and we have a few more minutes
- 42:53Speaker 2: left here with you before we wrap up the show
- 42:55Speaker 2: and then turn it back over to you and Wes
- 42:57Speaker 2: on SNR's The Drive, is this, the trade deadline is
- 43:01Speaker 2: less than a week away. Do the Steelers potentially make
- 43:03Speaker 2: a move there in your opinion?
- 43:05Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you have to strongly consider that. Now,
- 43:09Speaker 8: this is probably a longer conversation than we have time for,
- 43:12Speaker 8: but I am excited to get Roman back. I have
- 43:16Speaker 8: my doubts about Pittman. I was really excited when they
- 43:19Speaker 8: signed him, but I feel as though he probably has
- 43:22Speaker 8: not been healthy for one minute in a sealer uniform.
- 43:25Speaker 8: And the times we did see him in the regular season,
- 43:29Speaker 8: I thought he was a liability more than an asset. Now,
- 43:32Speaker 8: maybe coming off IR, he'll be the guy that the
- 43:34Speaker 8: Colts had all along and the guy I expected to get,
- 43:36Speaker 8: and that would be wonderful. Bernard, to me, is probably
- 43:39Speaker 8: their best receiver, and I'd like to see him used
- 43:41Speaker 8: more in that downfield, middle-of-the-field capacity more, more than just
- 43:45Speaker 8: screens and short stuff. But my conundrum with the trade
- 43:51Speaker 8: candidates is– the smaller slot types would then push Bernard
- 43:58Speaker 8: to the outside. And I think Bernard's definitely best out
- 44:02Speaker 8: of the slot. Guy like Brian Thomas would keep Bernard
- 44:06Speaker 8: in the slot and keep you a very big offense.
- 44:09Speaker 8: You know, Josh Downs, 170 pounds, McConkie's 180 pounds and
- 44:13Speaker 8: they get pushed around and they play small, but they're
- 44:16Speaker 8: good at getting open and beating man coverage, which is
- 44:18Speaker 8: exactly what this team needs. where a guy like Brian
- 44:21Speaker 8: Thomas would keep Bernard in the slot and keep you
- 44:23Speaker 8: a big unit, but he really isn't the route runner,
- 44:27Speaker 8: you know, technician guy that you need. I mean, he's
- 44:30Speaker 8: a lot like DK is just throwing go balls, you know?
- 44:33Speaker 8: So I'd be interested in my other thing is let's
- 44:37Speaker 8: say it's downs and you give up the equivalent of
- 44:40Speaker 8: like a fourth round pick. I think that's about what
- 44:42Speaker 8: it would cost you. Would they, I don't know their
- 44:45Speaker 8: policy on negotiating with free agents to be that weren't
- 44:50Speaker 8: on the team in training camp, you know, would they
- 44:52Speaker 8: extend him mid season? Brian, I don't know if you
- 44:55Speaker 8: know that answer. I've talked to everybody. Nobody seems to
- 44:57Speaker 8: know that answer. I mean, they have a policy of
- 44:59Speaker 8: we're not going to talk contract during the season.
- 45:02Speaker 6: Fine.
- 45:02Speaker 8: That's their policy, but would downs be different because you
- 45:06Speaker 8: couldn't talk contract with them months ago because he wasn't
- 45:09Speaker 8: a team.
- 45:11Speaker 5: My gut would tell me no, because we haven't seen
- 45:15Speaker 5: it before, but yeah, I mean, it is a bit
- 45:17Speaker 5: of a loophole and, I'm with you on pretty much
- 45:21Speaker 5: all of that. I'll just leave you with this, Matt.
- 45:23Speaker 5: I've got nothing else to add other than who needs
- 45:25Speaker 5: Brian Thomas Jr., any of those guys, when you're averaging
- 45:28Speaker 5: 5.8 yards per carry when Brandon Smith is on the field.
- 45:30Speaker 5: Get him out there, baby. Wide receiver, too. Let's go.
- 45:32Speaker 5: I didn't know that.
- 45:33Speaker 6: Okay.
- 45:34Speaker 8: Nice contribution from Mr.
- 45:35Speaker 3: Smith.
- 45:36Speaker 2: There's a Matt stat for you next week when you
- 45:39Speaker 2: go into the following week there, Matt. Hey, Matt Williamson,
- 45:41Speaker 2: thank you so much. You're always a great member of
- 45:45Speaker 2: our SNR team to talk to to get the insights.
- 45:47Speaker 2: And if you haven't had enough of Matt Williamson, he's
- 45:49Speaker 2: up next with Wes Ewer. But, Matt, we'll check you
- 45:52Speaker 2: out on the drive.
- 45:52Speaker 8: Sounds good, guys. Take care.
- 45:54Speaker 6: See you. Thanks, man. See you.
- 45:55Speaker 3: Thanks, man.
- 45:55Speaker 2: That's going to do it for the show for today.
- 45:57Speaker 2: I'm Ed Troop with Brian Bacco. Thanks for listening to
- 45:59Speaker 2: the Steelers Report. Up next, it is Matt Williamson, who
- 46:02Speaker 2: you just heard from, and Wes Shuler on SNR's The Drive,
- 46:04Speaker 2: right here on Steelers Nation Radio, part of the Steelers
- 46:07Speaker 2: Audio Network.