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From War to Revival: What's Really Happening | Aaron Lipkin | The Week in Bible Prophecy · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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Speaker 2: Hello, I'm Gary Steerman of Prophecy Watchers, and we have
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Speaker 2: when I say this, I mean a very special guest
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Speaker 2: today and his name is Aaron, Aaron Lipken, and many
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Speaker 2: of you may have seen his father, Alvi, because Alvi
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Speaker 2: has been on with us, and Alvi we all love Alvy.
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Speaker 2: He's always busy, he's always doing something. And you're telling
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Speaker 2: me that he may have some ambitions politically in Israel,
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Speaker 2: and I'd like to hear about that.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, my father is seventy seven years old. Wow,
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Speaker 1: just finished writing his eighth book about the Turkey and
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Speaker 1: the Coming Armageddon. So yeah, you know, for our listeners,
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Speaker 1: just stay tuned for the publication of that book. But
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Speaker 1: I think that one of the major things that my
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Speaker 1: father has done was to establish a Judeo Christian party
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Speaker 1: in the in Israel called the Bible Block Party, and
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Speaker 1: it aims to bring together Jews and Christians UH to
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Speaker 1: work together at the Kinesset, to have Christian representation at
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Speaker 1: the Israeli Parliament, and to allow the Christians in Israel
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Speaker 1: to actually choose or have a choice of a party
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Speaker 1: a political party that is Zionists, that that it's a
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Speaker 1: it's a party that promotes serving in the Israeli Army
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Speaker 1: and becoming a normal member of the Israeli society. So
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Speaker 1: there are many Arab Christians that are really looking forward
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Speaker 1: to the next elections, voting and participating in the Israeli democracy.
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Speaker 1: And and so my father has been running for office
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Speaker 1: for the past few elections and he's preparing for the
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Speaker 1: next elections that are due this fall. So we're really
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Speaker 1: looking forward for that. It's going to be the first
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Speaker 1: elections after October seventh, So everybody's really interested to know
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Speaker 1: how that event actually influenced the Israeli voting.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad he's still active. That's great, Yes, and
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Speaker 2: let's say high for me. By the way, when you
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Speaker 2: go back. It's interesting to me about today's Israel that
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Speaker 2: there is a great deal of dramatic development. We all
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Speaker 2: were watching it in the United States, but we don't
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Speaker 2: quite know what's going on. There's high drama in the
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Speaker 2: Middle East right now. And for years you've been a
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Speaker 2: tour guide in Israel. You know every little place and
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Speaker 2: you know the people, and you say hi to this
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Speaker 2: person in northern Israel. You say hi to this person
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Speaker 2: southern Israel. So you must have a feel for Israel
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Speaker 2: as it has developed, things developed since October seventh. And
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Speaker 2: what is that? What's going on?
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Speaker 1: Well, that's a question that a lot of Israelis are asking,
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Speaker 1: actually because Israelis themselves are still trying to digest the
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Speaker 1: last two years. So I just say a few words
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Speaker 1: about myself and who I am. I am in ISRAELI Jew.
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Speaker 1: I live in Samaria in a town called Oprah, the
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Speaker 1: biblical heartland of Israel, near Shiloh, Bethel and many important
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Speaker 1: biblical sites. I was born in Jerusalem. I'm married, I
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Speaker 1: have five children, and I do several things. I have
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Speaker 1: a travel agency called Lipkin Tours. We have a Prophecy
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Speaker 1: Watchers group coming in May and unfortunately the registration is over.
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Speaker 1: We have enough passers to fill up the bus. So
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Speaker 1: for our listeners, if you want to, you know, try
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Speaker 1: and register to the future tour. Stay tuned. And so
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Speaker 1: that's one that's the way. That's how i make my
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Speaker 1: living from tourism to Israel. And I'm also involved in
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Speaker 1: biblical archaeology. I'm part of the team of Professor Adams
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Speaker 1: Rotel i don't know if you remember, Gary, but in
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Speaker 1: two thousand and I believe it was twenty and fifteen,
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Speaker 1: you came to Israel and Professor Adams Rotel, who was alive,
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Speaker 1: then came to the hotel and gave a lecture to
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Speaker 1: the group.
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Speaker 2: And I was there with that group. Yeah, very happy
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Speaker 2: to be there, and it was very impressed by the way.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So I was really privileged to be part
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Speaker 1: of his team. And I'm actually their drone photographer. I'm
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Speaker 1: not an archaeologist, but I am a drone pilot and
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Speaker 1: I fly the drone and take pictures of all their
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Speaker 1: archaeological discoveries and then they get published in academic publications.
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Speaker 1: So I actually have my name appearing on all these
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Speaker 1: academic publications. So it's really an honor to be here.
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Speaker 1: My wife and I just arrived in the United States
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Speaker 1: a week and a half ago, and we went to
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Speaker 1: Dallas and then in Nashville we had conferences. A very
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Speaker 1: important conference we participated in was the first Judeo Christian
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Speaker 1: Zionist Conference, which aims to bring together Jews and Christians
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Speaker 1: to fight what Israel calls the Eighth Front, a front
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Speaker 1: where you have Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other countries that
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Speaker 1: are spilling a lot of money into the American academic world,
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Speaker 1: the culture, the sports, and they're basically trying to at
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Speaker 1: the end dismantle Judeo Christian the Judeo Christian world and values.
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Speaker 1: So this was a very important conference to be in.
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Speaker 1: And now we're here in Oklahoma, very very happy to
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Speaker 1: be here. And you know it's for us. The last
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Speaker 1: two years have been very dramatic. I'm sure that.
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Speaker 2: They have been. And by the way, we've been praying
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Speaker 2: for Israel. But here's the thing. We watch various television channels,
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Speaker 2: international channels and just trying to figure out what's going
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Speaker 2: on in Israel, and we can't always figure it out.
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Speaker 2: And you are very very close to what's been happening.
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Speaker 2: Right now. There is an armada in the Middle East,
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Speaker 2: in the Mediterranean, we've read sea other ocean areas. The
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Speaker 2: forces from the West are massing there and there is
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Speaker 2: talk that this may happen or that may happen. We're
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Speaker 2: watching and we are praying for Israel because we don't
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Speaker 2: want another disaster of some sort to befall Israel. Yes,
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Speaker 2: and you can help us understand what's going on.
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Speaker 1: So I want to start out first by you know,
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Speaker 1: giving my own testimony of what happened on October seventh.
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Speaker 1: As as I mentioned, we live in Samaria. Samaria was
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Speaker 1: not affected by the events around the Gaza Strip. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure our listeners know that on October seventh, hamas and
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Speaker 1: attacked the Jewish communities on the around the Gaza Strip.
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Speaker 1: There was also a music festival that was also terribly
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Speaker 1: hit by this attack. We had hundreds of casualties and fatalities.
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Speaker 1: People were kidnapped to Gaza and this was really traumatic
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Speaker 1: now living in Ofra. On October seventh, I remember sitting
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Speaker 1: with my son in our suka or tabernacle. This was
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Speaker 1: the end of the Feast of Tabernacles, and you know,
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Speaker 1: he was sitting, we were both sitting on the on
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Speaker 1: the on the couch and because it's outside, we could
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Speaker 1: actually hear, you know, what was going on outside. And
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Speaker 1: I heard two noises. The first noise was these really uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, distant explosions. I didn't understand exactly what it was.
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Speaker 1: My son actually thought that, you know, we have a
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Speaker 1: quarry near our town, so we thought that this was
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Speaker 1: maybe possibly uh some sort of you know querying activity.
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Speaker 1: And then after about an hour, we started hearing people
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Speaker 1: going into their cars uh and and closing their doors
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Speaker 1: and driving. Now, people that are listening to us, you
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Speaker 1: have to understand that my town is a Jewish religious
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Speaker 1: town and and you don't drive during the Sabbath and
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Speaker 1: the high holidays, and so that was another strange thing
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Speaker 1: to Probably.
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Speaker 2: The attack was staged at that time exactly to catch
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Speaker 2: people who were not up and around off guard.
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Speaker 1: Exactly off guard. Yes, And so we started hearing people leaving,
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Speaker 1: and later on I understood that these were people that
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Speaker 1: were called by the army to immediately join the reserve
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Speaker 1: duty and start fighting. Start because people understood that we
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Speaker 1: are a war has started in Israel. But I still
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Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on. You know, our phones
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Speaker 1: are shut off, TV's are shut off. We just and
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Speaker 1: then when I started walking to synagogue to pray, I
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Speaker 1: started meeting people on the way and they started telling
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Speaker 1: us about what was going on in the Gaza envelope.
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Speaker 1: And you know, first of all, you know, people got killed,
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Speaker 1: people got kidnapped. Terrible things are happening. And so this
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Speaker 1: was basically the around the eleven o'clock am. That's when
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Speaker 1: I first found out what was going on, and we
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Speaker 1: were just we were just shocked at the next The
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Speaker 1: next month was a month of horror because we understood
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Speaker 1: the atrocities that were done to the to the Jews
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Speaker 1: that were living in that area, and the attacks and
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Speaker 1: the terrible things that happened. But I think that the
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Speaker 1: big question that all Israelis had was where was the
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Speaker 1: Israeli army? Uh? You know, we have one of the
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Speaker 1: most strongest military forces in the Middle East, right and
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Speaker 1: and for hours, people at the kibusim and the communities.
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Speaker 2: Well people Americans even are very much aware of that.
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Speaker 2: The Israeli army is highly skilled, the discipline, one of
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Speaker 2: the finest armies in the world, if not the finest.
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Speaker 2: And so I can imagine. And by the way, this
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Speaker 2: question has crossed my mind from time to time, and
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Speaker 2: I've I could I've never been around someone I could ask,
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Speaker 2: and I'm asking you right now what happened?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm I'm going to try to get to that,
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Speaker 1: but I have to, I have to to say how
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Speaker 1: bad it is. Because people were at the gaza envelope,
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Speaker 1: at their towns, at their villages, at their kibutsim, and
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Speaker 1: they're they're texting the police, they're texting the military. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's eight o'clock. We have terrorists walking around our houses.
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Speaker 1: Please come and help us. And time is passing. It's
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Speaker 1: nine o'clock, ten o'clock, eleven o'clock. The air force is
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Speaker 1: not shooting down the terrorists. The military or the police.
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Speaker 1: Actually the police are the only ones that really were
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Speaker 1: involved in fighting the fighting. But there was no army
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Speaker 1: presence or any any type of action by the Israel
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Speaker 1: Israeli army to counter the attack. And so this was
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Speaker 1: definitely something that that really shattered our confidence in the
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Speaker 1: Israeli security forces. What exactly is happening here? You know,
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Speaker 1: we're still trying to explain that. And you know, obviously,
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Speaker 1: when when things are not year and when you don't
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Speaker 1: have an investigation committee that's really looking into it and
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Speaker 1: making a very orderly investigation, that really brings up a
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Speaker 1: very good background for conspiracy theories. And I don't want
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Speaker 1: to go into conspiracy theories, but I do want to
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Speaker 1: say the following Before October seventh, Israel experienced about the
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Speaker 1: year or two of attention, a lot of tension, and
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Speaker 1: the tension was between groups of the old Jewish Elites
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Speaker 1: in Israel that established the state of Israel. We're talking
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Speaker 1: about mostly European Jews that our secular left wing or
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Speaker 1: woke and this group. I'm going to make it very short,
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Speaker 1: but during twenty or thirty years basically drained the power
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Speaker 1: from the government and passed it on to the judicial system.
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Speaker 1: And so in the last two years before it's October seventh,
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Speaker 1: the Israeli government tried to bring that power back to
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Speaker 1: the government, to the parliament and to the government, and
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of tension, many demonstrations that we
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Speaker 1: later understood were actually funded by the Biden administration. This
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Speaker 1: was really a shock to us. But these two years
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Speaker 1: created a situation where i would say, the chief of Staff,
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Speaker 1: the chief of Intelligence, the chief of the Israeli FBI,
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Speaker 1: and many other organizations decided not to update the Prime Minister,
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Speaker 1: not to update the Minister of Defense. There was some
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Speaker 1: sort of a disconnect, and the reason for that is
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Speaker 1: because they did not trust Prime Minister Taniawa and his
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Speaker 1: government to make the right decisions. Uh and and they
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Speaker 1: were actually were afraid that Israel, that that Taniel and
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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister would actually create bring Israel into an
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Speaker 1: unnecessary war. And so when you know, things started happening
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Speaker 1: on October six, we already had red lights, you know,
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Speaker 1: turning on things like, you know, intelligence information about Hamas
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Speaker 1: Ramas terrorists gathering in the mosques the night before, the
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Speaker 1: fact that sim cards that Haramas had and our secret
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Speaker 1: service knew about were turned on in their one hundreds
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Speaker 1: suddenly on October six. All of these things should have
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Speaker 1: made our our secret service and intelligence understand that something
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Speaker 1: is going on. Yet they haven't updated the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 1: Now the question is was this intentional or was this
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Speaker 1: done because there was some sort of a false understanding
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Speaker 1: that Ramas is afraid of attacking Israel, that Haramas doesn't
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Speaker 1: want to go into war with Israel. That was the
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Speaker 1: basically the military understanding, and therefore the military was not
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Speaker 1: ready to be attacked from.
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Speaker 2: Gaza sort of state of relaxation exactly, everything is okay,
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Speaker 2: we can kind of take it easy, noail exactly.
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Speaker 1: And you have to understand also that Israel, in terms
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Speaker 1: of the the way Israel viewed the biggest threats to
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Speaker 1: its national security, the biggest enemies were Hisbala and the
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Speaker 1: Lebanon and Iran and the Iraqi militias, and so in
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Speaker 1: a sense, our back was turned to Gaza and our
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Speaker 1: faces and our intelligence was turned into Iran and the
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Speaker 1: surrounding enemies. And so Israel was not I want to say,
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Speaker 1: Israel was not ready for the Hamas attack, although again
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Speaker 1: there were certain intelligence information that showed that there was
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Speaker 1: some sort of of preparation for an attack.
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Speaker 2: Well, at this point in time, Americans, our view was
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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump and beving it, you got together in
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Speaker 2: a big way and had a number of conferences and
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Speaker 2: did some planning and the result was an amazing victory
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Speaker 2: in the in the region that destroyed a lot of
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Speaker 2: the enemies, very very effective weapons or normally they would
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Speaker 2: be affected, but they were not, and which was to
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Speaker 2: us kind of a miracle.
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Speaker 1: Yes, well, we have to understand also that that before
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Speaker 1: Trump was elected, we had about a year or more
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Speaker 1: of a Biden administration during the war, and that was
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Speaker 1: a total disaster. I mean, you know, Biden came into
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Speaker 1: Israel immediately after October seventh and war the I ran
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Speaker 1: not to not to attack Israel, but at the same time,
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Speaker 1: the Biden administration is uh, you know, preventing weapons from
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Speaker 1: from Israel. We actually knew soldiers that went into Gaza
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Speaker 1: and it did not have enough ammunition because of the
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Speaker 1: Biden sanctions on Israel. And for for people in Israel
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Speaker 1: who who understand that we are in one of our
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Speaker 1: most dangerous wars to think that that how how could
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Speaker 1: the Biden administration sanction Israel in such a dangerous time.
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Speaker 1: And again, you know, obviously this is there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of conspiracies right now, conspiracy theories in Israel about that.
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Speaker 1: But we do know that, as I said, the old
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Speaker 1: elites in Israel that were that wanted to down the
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Speaker 1: downfall of NATANIAU and his government cooperated with Biden, Biden
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Speaker 1: administrative administry and politicians. And you know this, I'm sure
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Speaker 1: that this is one of those things that's going to
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Speaker 1: be investigated. But definitely, after Trump came to power, we
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Speaker 1: were all relieved. You know. We Trump gave us all
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Speaker 1: the weapons that we've already purchased and needed. And you know,
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Speaker 1: we had an amazing attack on Iran, a twelve day
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Speaker 1: a war with Iran, and you know that we have
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Speaker 1: to talk about the miraculous component in this war.
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Speaker 2: Because we remember the rockets.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm telling you we in Samaria, we saw
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Speaker 1: the rockets flying above us on their way to the
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Speaker 1: coastal areas of Israel. So we literally saw them flying
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Speaker 1: above us. But we have to understand something. Iran has
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Speaker 1: has spent billions of dollars to create a ring of
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Speaker 1: fire around Israel. This has been going on probably for
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Speaker 1: the last thirty years. And we have you know, we
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Speaker 1: have enemies in Lebanon and Hisbeala, in Syria, in Iraq,
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Speaker 1: in Yemen. Iran gave them missiles technology and really created
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Speaker 1: the conditions that the push of a button, all of
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Speaker 1: these enemies would work at the same time. And the
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Speaker 1: Iranian plan was to destroy Israel. That was the plan,
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Speaker 1: and Israel knew about that. And you know, to think
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Speaker 1: that when Hamas attacked Israel on October seventh, the reality
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Speaker 1: could have been very different. Uh. You know, Iran and
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Speaker 1: Isbella could have decided to join in with Hamas as
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Speaker 1: well as the other you know, components of the ring
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Speaker 1: of fire, and this could have ended badly to Israel.
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Speaker 1: I don't know to even say even worse than that,
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Speaker 1: and not the only one that says that it's actually
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Speaker 1: Israeli politicians. You I have to.
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Speaker 2: Say something right now, as an American Christian. Uh, we
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Speaker 2: did a lot of praying for Israel, and we believe
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Speaker 2: that the Lord stepped in and helped out. Let's put
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Speaker 2: it down.
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Speaker 1: And uh.
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Speaker 2: And and indeed he did bless Israel.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and and God, you know, we know that we
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Speaker 1: know that God affected the way that the Iranians made
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Speaker 1: decisions and they decided not to join. And so Israel
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Speaker 1: was actually able to start and prioritize the enemies that
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Speaker 1: we need to take care of. And uh. And you know,
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Speaker 1: looking back at the past two years, I just see
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Speaker 1: a one miracle after the other. Uh. You know, our
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Speaker 1: our jet planes have have attacked, uh, the the terrorists
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Speaker 1: of rizbalad Iran, the Yemenit Hutis, and all the jets
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Speaker 1: came back home safely. And we're talking about hundreds of
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Speaker 1: bombings and and raids and and you know, all the
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Speaker 1: jets came back, all the jets. You know, we didn't
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Speaker 1: have any any casualties from the air force. Wow. At
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Speaker 1: the same time, I do have to say that, you know,
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Speaker 1: many Israeli soldiers fought in Gaza, Uh, they fought in
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Speaker 1: in in southern Lebanon. We did have you know, soldiers
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Speaker 1: that got killed and wounded but all of the soldiers
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Speaker 1: and all of the pilots and everybody that was part
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Speaker 1: of this war, you know, feel that they really saved Israel.
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Speaker 1: They really uh, you know, allowed Israel to continue to
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Speaker 1: survive and and even more than that, to become a
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Speaker 1: local military superpower in the Middle East. So it's all
21:42
Speaker 1: thanks to their courage. It's all thanks to the prayers
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Speaker 1: of Christians all over the world for the State of Israel. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And it's and you know, the thanks also goes to
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Speaker 1: President Trump and his support and his administration and uh
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Speaker 1: and I think probably the most important person that we
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Speaker 1: should thank is Benjamin Etaniell. You know, we're counting our
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Speaker 1: blessings to understand, to know that we have one of
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Speaker 1: the most important Israeli politicians in the history of the
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Speaker 1: State of Israel. With the political abilities, the international connections,
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Speaker 1: the strategic understanding of the threat of Iran and what
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Speaker 1: was going on, I don't know how Israel could have
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Speaker 1: made it without a leader like Benjamin Attaniell.
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Speaker 2: He pulled people together. That was my perception watching what
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Speaker 2: was going on at first, and it seemed to me
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Speaker 2: that he was a bit on the controversial side among
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Speaker 2: his own people and then as things tightened up and
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Speaker 2: became more dramatic, I think people were looking for a
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Speaker 2: leader and they found one in him. Yes, he was
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Speaker 2: able to pull things together.
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Speaker 1: So yes, definitely, NATANIEO in recent polls receives between sixty
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Speaker 1: to seventy percent support. He's the politician that most Israelis
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Speaker 1: believe should be the next prime minister. At the same time,
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Speaker 1: I do have to say that we have a thirty
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Speaker 1: percent discontent from NATANIAO. These people belong again to the
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Speaker 1: old elites that don't want to give up their control
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Speaker 1: over Israel, through the judicial branch, through the media, the
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Speaker 1: academic world. And this is probably the biggest struggle that
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Speaker 1: I think most Americans are not aware of. Everybody knows
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Speaker 1: about the outer threats to Israel from the Muslim countries,
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Speaker 1: from Iran, from Egypt, and from other countries, but people
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Speaker 1: don't know that there is another front inside of Israel,
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Speaker 1: and it's an internal front inside the Jewish people. The
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Speaker 1: State of Israel was established by.
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Speaker 2: And now what would be this group you're talking about,
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Speaker 2: what would be their motivation?
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Speaker 1: So the State of Israel was established in nineteen forty eight.
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Speaker 1: I would say a certain group in the Israeli society
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Speaker 1: or the Jewish population. We're talking about secular, atheist, socialist elites,
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Speaker 1: not elites at the time, but European Jews that because
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Speaker 1: they were the ones that founded the state, they are
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Speaker 1: also the ones that took hold of the power centers
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Speaker 1: of Israel. And I'm talking about the parliament, the government,
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Speaker 1: the judicial system, the media, the TV, the culture, the
24:47
Speaker 1: academic world. And they've been holding on on these power
24:54
Speaker 1: centers until the first fall of the I would say
24:58
Speaker 1: the government or the the parliament in nineteen seventy eight,
25:01
Speaker 1: when Menachen beggin the Prime Minister from the Liquid Party one,
25:08
Speaker 1: and basically you took away from them that power center.
25:14
Speaker 1: And the more time passed demography in Israel made its
25:19
Speaker 1: influence on the political system. And because you have more
25:24
Speaker 1: religious people that are bringing more children and traditional Jews
25:28
Speaker 1: that are Middle Eastern in origin, basically the left wing
25:34
Speaker 1: or the old elites started losing their control over Israel
25:39
Speaker 1: and because of that, they weren't willing to give up
25:42
Speaker 1: their control.
25:43
Speaker 2: Would you say that there is a spiritual movement in Israel?
25:48
Speaker 2: You speak of the old elite who were not particularly spiritual, right,
25:53
Speaker 2: and it sounds to me like there is a spiritual
25:57
Speaker 2: faction in Israel. It's rising up, definitely.
26:00
Speaker 1: First of all, we have to understand that today the
26:03
Speaker 1: old elites are mostly a woke left wing. They're very
26:08
Speaker 1: well off because of their hold on the center of
26:12
Speaker 1: power in Israel. And again they're fighting. They're trying to
26:17
Speaker 1: do things that are even undemocratic and illegal to try
26:21
Speaker 1: and bring the downfall of Nataniao and his government. But
26:24
Speaker 1: actually they're fighting the other group in Israel that's becoming
26:28
Speaker 1: the majority. You know. I just spoke to my son
26:31
Speaker 1: this morning and he told me about a show, an
26:34
Speaker 1: interview that the Channel twelve did in Israel. And what
26:37
Speaker 1: they did was because we have elections coming up this fall,
26:40
Speaker 1: they interviewed around I think hundreds of young Israeli Jews
26:46
Speaker 1: that just turned eighteen and can vote, and out of
26:50
Speaker 1: the hundreds that they spoke with and interviewed, only five
26:56
Speaker 1: percent said that they are left wing. All the rest
27:01
Speaker 1: belong to the center and right wing. They all spoke
27:05
Speaker 1: about how they admire Natanyau and his abilities and his policies,
27:11
Speaker 1: but even more than that, more interestingly, they all talked
27:14
Speaker 1: about a spiritual revival in Israel, and I think that
27:18
Speaker 1: I think that Americans are not aware of that. But
27:20
Speaker 1: October seventh has caused a huge shift in Israeli society.
27:27
Speaker 1: Jews noticed how Hamas is trying to kill Jews because
27:33
Speaker 1: they're Jews and that you know made them, you know,
27:37
Speaker 1: understand that that that that there is a need to
27:40
Speaker 1: strengthen their Jewish identity. This is this is something that
27:43
Speaker 1: just came naturally. And so you have more Jews that
27:46
Speaker 1: are are starting to pray or starting to to to
27:51
Speaker 1: attend synagogue, go to the Western Wall, participate in in
27:56
Speaker 1: religious ceremonial, uh, you know, events, feasts and so on.
28:02
Speaker 1: People are saying Hamas tried to kill Jews and Judaism
28:06
Speaker 1: and they will lose. And so this is something that
28:09
Speaker 1: we see, you know, across the board in Israel, and
28:12
Speaker 1: the people that were the young men and women that
28:15
Speaker 1: were interviewed by Channel twelve have have repeatedly said that
28:20
Speaker 1: they feel more Jewish today and that they are practicing
28:23
Speaker 1: more of the Jewish religion. And you know, in a
28:26
Speaker 1: different extent, everyone has their own way, and.
28:29
Speaker 2: May I just ask a question here. We have been
28:34
Speaker 2: watching and it's not easy, an easy thing to watch,
28:38
Speaker 2: watching the development of the priesthood and the Temple Faction,
28:44
Speaker 2: the group in Israel they would like to build a
28:47
Speaker 2: temple and they would like to establish a priesthood. We
28:50
Speaker 2: all heard about for a while there before October seventh.
28:54
Speaker 2: We heard about the Red Heifer and you know, the
28:57
Speaker 2: sacrifice of the Red Heifer. We're hearing things like this,
29:01
Speaker 2: and it sounds like there's a movement to toward temple worship. Yes,
29:08
Speaker 2: And how does that fit in with what you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's another process that has been going on for
29:16
Speaker 1: many years. I remember as a kid during the nineteen eighties,
29:19
Speaker 1: there was a very small group of Jews that you know,
29:23
Speaker 1: called for Jews to go up to Temple Mount and
29:26
Speaker 1: and pray there. And they were considered forgive me for
29:30
Speaker 1: saying that, crazy, they were for they were they were
29:33
Speaker 1: considered extremists. And you know, looking back at the nineteen eighties,
29:39
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at where we are today, where we
29:41
Speaker 1: have thousands, tens of thousands of Jews that are going
29:45
Speaker 1: up to Temple Mount to pray. You know, I personally
29:49
Speaker 1: go there once at least once a year with my son,
29:53
Speaker 1: with my sons, and you know, at first, like you know,
29:57
Speaker 1: six or seven years ago they visit to Temple Mount.
30:00
Speaker 1: For Jews who wanted to pray to God, there was
30:03
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. The Muslims there would shout at you, they
30:06
Speaker 1: will try to humiliate you. If you try to move
30:10
Speaker 1: your lips and pray that the Israeli police would actually
30:13
Speaker 1: take you out of Temple Mount and even put you
30:16
Speaker 1: in prison for a day or two. So this was
30:19
Speaker 1: the situation a few years ago. Today, the Israeli government
30:23
Speaker 1: has totally changed its policy towards going up to Temple
30:26
Speaker 1: Mount for Jews. Jews are actually allowed to pray, are
30:30
Speaker 1: allowed to learn Bible on Temple Mount. And I think
30:34
Speaker 1: that the biggest change for me personally was the possibility
30:39
Speaker 1: to do what the Jewish tradition calls on to Jewish
30:45
Speaker 1: pilgrim pilgrims who are going to Temple Mount, and that
30:48
Speaker 1: is to prostrate. I can tell you that I visited
30:52
Speaker 1: there a few like a year ago, and me and
30:56
Speaker 1: my sons, what's the first time that we totally lay
30:59
Speaker 1: down on ground with our hands, you know, in front
31:02
Speaker 1: of us, and totally submitted ourselves to God, you know,
31:08
Speaker 1: bowing into the to the direction of you know, where
31:12
Speaker 1: everybody the Golden Dome that marks the place of the
31:15
Speaker 1: Holy of Holies, and I remember doing that for the
31:18
Speaker 1: first time and just losing it. I just started crying
31:21
Speaker 1: like a baby, you know, that is praying to his Father,
31:25
Speaker 1: to God. And this was really something that was so overwhelming.
31:30
Speaker 1: And even now when I'm talking to you Red, my
31:32
Speaker 1: eyes are becoming wet a bit because I was so
31:36
Speaker 1: so amazed at the connection and how that affected me.
31:40
Speaker 1: So we have a lot of Israelies. There's a growing
31:43
Speaker 1: movement of Israelies there are reconnecting to Temple mount and
31:47
Speaker 1: at the same time you have the Temple Institute and
31:50
Speaker 1: many other Temple organizations in Israel that are trying to
31:54
Speaker 1: promote the building of the Temple, the preparations for the
32:00
Speaker 1: Temple rebuilding. You mentioned the red heifers. So I live
32:04
Speaker 1: in Oprah and Shiloh is the place where the tabernacle
32:08
Speaker 1: stood during the time of Joshua and the Judges and Samuel.
32:12
Speaker 1: The site of Shiloh hosts the four or five red
32:17
Speaker 1: heifers that are there, and there was actually a rehearsal
32:21
Speaker 1: of the burning of a red heifer and the you know,
32:26
Speaker 1: the actually the first time that the Jews are doing this.
32:30
Speaker 1: You know, for two thousand years, and you know, they're
32:34
Speaker 1: learning so much from the process of how to do it.
32:36
Speaker 1: For example, give you an example, in order to burn
32:39
Speaker 1: the red heifer, you need a lot of wood, and
32:41
Speaker 1: you need the wood to burn burn for three or
32:43
Speaker 1: four years, four days for the bones and everything to
32:46
Speaker 1: be burned down. So so most of the mixture is
32:49
Speaker 1: actually made out of wood, not out of the red
32:51
Speaker 1: heifer itself. It's very interesting. But these are all things
32:55
Speaker 1: that we're starting to deal with for the first time
32:57
Speaker 1: after two thousand years, and and you know, we're moving forward.
33:02
Speaker 1: Having said all of that, I have to to say
33:05
Speaker 1: that most Jews are not there yet. You know, when
33:09
Speaker 1: when you go to a Jew in Tel Aviv or
33:13
Speaker 1: in Jerusalem and you ask him what do you think
33:15
Speaker 1: about the rebuilding of the Temple, you know you might
33:18
Speaker 1: hear you know, it's not relevant, you know, we're not there.
33:21
Speaker 1: But you might also hear Jews say, you know, we
33:24
Speaker 1: pray for it, but maybe that's not the time at
33:26
Speaker 1: the moment. So I think that the majority of the people,
33:29
Speaker 1: the Jewish people, are not there yet. But the direction
33:32
Speaker 1: is definitely for the rebuilding of the Temple.
33:36
Speaker 2: This is fascinating and encouraging and should be to all Christians.
33:42
Speaker 2: Now I'd like to make a little lead to her
33:45
Speaker 2: here as we're sort of coming close to the end
33:47
Speaker 2: of our time. And this is fascinating to me. What's
33:52
Speaker 2: happening around Israel right now with incredible military movements land,
34:00
Speaker 2: sea and air. The American maybe is presenting itself in
34:05
Speaker 2: a very powerful way all around the countries in the
34:08
Speaker 2: Middle East. And how do you interpret this and what
34:12
Speaker 2: do you think is going to happen?
34:14
Speaker 1: Well, I'm very careful in trying to forecast the future, yes,
34:23
Speaker 1: but the way things are going on right now, it
34:25
Speaker 1: looks like, uh that Israel and America, as well as
34:30
Speaker 1: other forces in the world, even Arab countries, are are
34:36
Speaker 1: trying to replace the Iranian Ayatola regime in Iran. This
34:42
Speaker 1: and there's they're planning an attack on Iran now. The
34:45
Speaker 1: attack again, is not just for trying to destroy the
34:50
Speaker 1: ballistic missiles that Iran is producing or a possible threat
34:55
Speaker 1: a nuclear threat from Iran. I truly believe that the
34:59
Speaker 1: Trump and Natanya want a regime change. They want Iran
35:03
Speaker 1: to become a democratic state, a state that would work
35:10
Speaker 1: with the Western world and not try to undermine it.
35:14
Speaker 1: And so what I believe is that in the next
35:18
Speaker 1: week or so, we will see a war erupting in
35:22
Speaker 1: Iran that will eventually lead to the regime change. But
35:28
Speaker 1: I think that we need to look in a broader
35:32
Speaker 1: look at the Middle East and the world. I think
35:35
Speaker 1: that America is in a war with China, with Russia,
35:42
Speaker 1: and what we're seeing is Trump and Etanyao building a
35:47
Speaker 1: new Western world, a world that that that starts in
35:52
Speaker 1: India and the Far East and is going through Iran,
35:57
Speaker 1: and and and Saudi Arabia and Iraq continuing on to
36:01
Speaker 1: you to to Europe. And I think that that Trump
36:04
Speaker 1: and Nataniel are trying to build a new world order,
36:08
Speaker 1: one that will allow the Western Judeo Christian civilization to
36:15
Speaker 1: to continue surviving and flourishing. And this is I think
36:20
Speaker 1: that this is something that we need, we all, you know,
36:22
Speaker 1: to finish. On an optimistic note, I think that what
36:27
Speaker 1: we're seeing now starting October seventh, and the continuation of it,
36:33
Speaker 1: what we're going to see is the victory of God.
36:36
Speaker 1: We're going to see the victory of of the Bible,
36:38
Speaker 1: the victory of Judeo Christian values. And and this is
36:42
Speaker 1: what Netaniell and Trump are planning we will see the
36:47
Speaker 1: Western world flourishing and hopefully see the rest of the
36:52
Speaker 1: world getting rid of all these you know, tyrants, people
36:57
Speaker 1: that are trying to undermine our or mutual heritage, our
37:02
Speaker 1: mutual belief in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
37:07
Speaker 2: This has summarized things very very well for people who
37:11
Speaker 2: are not necessarily tuned in to the to the latest news.
37:16
Speaker 2: And I love what I'm hearing. And behind all this,
37:22
Speaker 2: I'm hearing about a movement of what we we as
37:26
Speaker 2: Christians would term the power of the Holy Spirit of
37:30
Speaker 2: God that acting upon his people. And I'm that's it's
37:36
Speaker 2: wonderful the way you laid it out for us, that
37:41
Speaker 2: you actually believe that the Lord is working in that
37:46
Speaker 2: direction that we've all prayed about for many, many years,
37:49
Speaker 2: you know. And we pray for the peace of Jerusalem
37:52
Speaker 2: just as the Bible says, and it sounds like our
37:56
Speaker 2: prayers are being answered. This is wonderful.
37:59
Speaker 1: We are thankful to God. You know. We say in
38:03
Speaker 1: Judaism that that that everything that happens happens for the good.
38:08
Speaker 1: We might not understand why it's happening. We might feel
38:12
Speaker 1: that what's happening is not good. It's actually bad. But
38:16
Speaker 1: God has a plan and and and the plan is
38:19
Speaker 1: going forward. And I have to say the last two
38:23
Speaker 1: years was maybe you know, watching a movie while you
38:27
Speaker 1: fast forward. It was very intensive. I always like to
38:31
Speaker 1: say that we feel that we are on a roller
38:33
Speaker 1: coaster and the ride is not ending. It started on
38:37
Speaker 1: October seventh, and we're still on the roller coaster, and
38:42
Speaker 1: and we're waiting, you know, for to get to the
38:46
Speaker 1: last Well.
38:46
Speaker 2: It sounds to me like you're saying, we can't predict
38:51
Speaker 2: what's going to happen. We know what we would like
38:54
Speaker 2: to see happening, and it sounds as though it's beginning
38:59
Speaker 2: to happen, but we can't be certain at this point
39:02
Speaker 2: in time. And again, Christians watching this interview right now,
39:10
Speaker 2: what should they be praying for?
39:12
Speaker 1: I think that I would pray for two things. I
39:16
Speaker 1: would pray for God to give wisdom and to give
39:22
Speaker 1: advice to President Trump and Nathaniel. Give them, give them
39:30
Speaker 1: the right, give them the wisdom to make the right decisions,
39:33
Speaker 1: because you know, I watch Nataniel and I just don't
39:36
Speaker 1: know how this, you know, seventy seven year old man
39:41
Speaker 1: is just facing so much pressure, not just external pressure,
39:46
Speaker 1: but also internal pressure in Israel. And I think that
39:50
Speaker 1: the second thing would be to pray for God to
39:55
Speaker 1: pour his Holy Spirit on the old elites in Israel.
40:00
Speaker 1: We have to convince them, we have to make them
40:04
Speaker 1: join in because they are such a powerful they're so
40:10
Speaker 1: powerful in Israel. And if they don't participate, if they
40:14
Speaker 1: don't cooperate, uh, then that could that could cause some
40:19
Speaker 1: sort of a crisis in Israel. And we need them
40:22
Speaker 1: because they're part of the nation of Israel.
40:25
Speaker 2: In closing, do you expect Eran to be stabilized anytime soon?
40:34
Speaker 1: I know that I believe that Trump and nataniel want
40:37
Speaker 1: a regime change and uh. And the Iranian regime is
40:41
Speaker 1: not Hamas and Gaza, where you know you can easily
40:44
Speaker 1: it's not a terror organization that you can easily uh
40:47
Speaker 1: bring the downfall of. This is a country estate, an
40:52
Speaker 1: old civilization.
40:54
Speaker 2: UH.
40:54
Speaker 1: And you need the right plan and you need to
40:57
Speaker 1: take the right steps to ensure that a regime will
41:01
Speaker 1: be changed. And so I believe that Nataniello and Trump
41:05
Speaker 1: have used the past month or two to build up
41:08
Speaker 1: their forces to make the right plans to attack Iran,
41:13
Speaker 1: not just from the inside, not just not just from
41:16
Speaker 1: the outside, but also from the inside.
41:19
Speaker 2: Now has one of the leading tour guides in Israel
41:23
Speaker 2: for many, many years. There are people who would like
41:26
Speaker 2: to visit Israel right now. They'd like to come and
41:31
Speaker 2: shake your hand. I'm sure what should we be thinking?
41:35
Speaker 2: Is it okay to plan a trip and obtain a
41:39
Speaker 2: tour guide.
41:40
Speaker 1: So first of all, I want to say that in
41:41
Speaker 1: the last two years of war in Israel, we had
41:44
Speaker 1: around eight buses of American Christians visiting Israel. During the war. Wow,
41:51
Speaker 1: they visited Israel, and yeah, you know, I have to understand.
41:54
Speaker 1: Everybody else canceled, but Christian Zionists from America came in
42:00
Speaker 1: and they came to Israel, they toured, they enjoyed Israel,
42:03
Speaker 1: they came back. We see how tourism is becoming again
42:08
Speaker 1: a major interest for Christians. In twenty twenty six and
42:11
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, we already have bus loads that are full,
42:16
Speaker 1: and we cannot register people too because we don't have
42:19
Speaker 1: enough space. And I really encourage people to if you
42:23
Speaker 1: want to visit Israel, please, you know, go and register
42:27
Speaker 1: because spaces are filling up quickly. People can go to
42:31
Speaker 1: visit Israel today dot com and you know, send us
42:35
Speaker 1: a message telling us that they would like to register.
42:39
Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot of interest in coming to Israel.
42:42
Speaker 1: And again, I believe that Messiah's coming. I believe that
42:46
Speaker 1: we are nearing the fulfillment of the prophecies in the Bible.
42:51
Speaker 1: And you really need to come to Israel and feel it.
42:55
Speaker 1: You need to be part of it.
42:57
Speaker 2: And by the way, when you're there, you do feel it. Yes,
43:00
Speaker 2: And I well remember my last trip and have you
43:06
Speaker 2: to think for a lot of what I experienced. And
43:09
Speaker 2: it's just been it's been very exciting, the time in
43:15
Speaker 2: which we live, the things that are happening, and how
43:18
Speaker 2: they coincide with scripture, with prophecy, and of course we
43:23
Speaker 2: call ourselves the prophecy watchers, and for good reason. This
43:26
Speaker 2: is the time to be watching. And it sounds to
43:29
Speaker 2: me like you.
43:30
Speaker 1: Are, Yes, we are. We're looking up.
43:32
Speaker 2: Look all right. Aaron Lipkin one of the leading tour
43:38
Speaker 2: guides in Israel. Maybe I should say the leading tour
43:42
Speaker 2: guide in Israel, because to me, you are and we
43:46
Speaker 2: really have enjoyed talking to you, and it's kind of
43:52
Speaker 2: encouraging to me the way you have put things there
43:56
Speaker 2: is hope. There is the possibility of things are moving
44:00
Speaker 2: in the right direction.
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Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, and I think that we are. That we're
44:04
Speaker 1: going to see great things happening in the next weeks
44:07
Speaker 1: and months. So I know, as you say, stay tuned
44:10
Speaker 1: and always look up.
44:12
Speaker 2: Always look up. You know, we appreciate your being here,
44:17
Speaker 2: and we love what you have said. And My God
44:23
Speaker 2: watch over your comings and your goalis.
44:26
Speaker 1: A man a man. May God bless Israel, My God
44:29
Speaker 1: bless the United States of America.
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Speaker 2: I'm Gary Steerman. This is Prophecy Watchers enjoyed talking with
44:37
Speaker 2: our friend, and he is a good friend. Aaron Lipkin
44:41
Speaker 2: from Israel,