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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 191 | Victory Monday Reactions to Jaguars Week 11 Win · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into a beautiful victory Monday. Here in Duval County.
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  Speaker 1: We love it when the Jaguars get a win. It's
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  Speaker 1: sunny day in Florida, it's warm again. The fair is leaving,
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  Speaker 1: so there's more parking for us in the morning. So personally,
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  Speaker 1: I'm having a great day to start. I met a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Jaguars fans are having a great day today
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Jags am.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Kinannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Osier with me this morning,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know how you couldn't be having a
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  Speaker 1: good victory Monday after the beatdown we saw of the
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  Speaker 1: Chargers yesterday at EverBank Stadium. We're gonna start out with
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  Speaker 1: some big things cause it was a good one and
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  Speaker 1: we wanna review all the good stuff from yesterday. So
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  Speaker 1: Association VIC. Thing Number one was a response after that
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  Speaker 1: finish against the Texans. It was a focus all week long.
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  Speaker 1: Liam Cohen wanted to see a response from his team.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, I talk to you guys about it
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  Speaker 3: a little bit the other day.
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  Speaker 4: It was a quieter week.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that was probably because we're pissed off,
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  Speaker 3: you know, at the finish last week, and we played better.
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  Speaker 3: Pissed off we are. We've talked about edge for a
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  Speaker 3: long time now, and when we have an edge and
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  Speaker 3: we play as a team and it's about the team
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  Speaker 3: all the time, good things happen.
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  Speaker 4: Typically for US.
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  Speaker 1: Brian's team was pissed off and they played pissed off
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  Speaker 1: and they definitely took out some frustration on the Chargers yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, the running game was the star of the show.
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  Speaker 5: Trevor led the eleven and sixteen, played drives, Josh einz Allen,
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  Speaker 5: the pass rush came to life, he got the franchise record,
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  Speaker 5: But the star of the show was Liam Cohen. From
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  Speaker 5: the moment that the game in Houston was over, it
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  Speaker 5: was clear to anybody who's been around this game at all.
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  Speaker 5: With a first year head coach, this was his time.
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  Speaker 5: There was always going to be a tough loss like that.
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  Speaker 5: How he got his team through, how they responded. These
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  Speaker 5: are not those Jaguars. We've been saying it, but they
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  Speaker 5: hadn't born out on the field.
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  Speaker 6: Now. It's entirely his team.
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  Speaker 5: They played his way coming out of a disastrous day
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  Speaker 5: in Houston and it was it was magnificent to watch
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  Speaker 5: how his team responded.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was never overly concerned that they wouldn't try
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  Speaker 4: to respond, and I was never concerned that he didn't
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  Speaker 4: have the locker room. My concern was the injury situation.
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  Speaker 4: Did they have the horses, so to speak, to respond?
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  Speaker 4: And you know, again I ranked this up there. I'll
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  Speaker 4: get into it later in the season. I mean in
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  Speaker 4: the show. It's as good to win as I've seen
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  Speaker 4: this team have since I've been back. Every box checked.
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  Speaker 4: But as Brian said, the story is how this team
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  Speaker 4: responded to that loss, and it was Liam. It was
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  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen's day.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into how they actually got that win, got
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  Speaker 1: it done. And second big thing today is going to
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  Speaker 1: be run game, because we've been talking about getting the
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  Speaker 1: run game going for a while now. Travis Etn and
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  Speaker 1: Facial toot and kind of split the load there and
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  Speaker 1: they both had about one hundred and fifty yards total
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  Speaker 1: together yesterday on the ground. So that was a great effort. Etn,
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  Speaker 1: though said, it's all because of the O line. I know,
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  Speaker 1: big shoutouts and I was a lineman man, it was
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  Speaker 1: either just moving people and you don't go out there
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  Speaker 1: and run a ball like that without doing so.
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  Speaker 6: Just house off to them.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 6: They had the moving people just making my reason so easy.
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  Speaker 3: And I just had to keep it in the straight
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  Speaker 3: and and it's just thank.
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  Speaker 2: You for it.
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  Speaker 1: Now, John, we know this team is good when they
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  Speaker 1: established the run early, but the offensive line able to
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  Speaker 1: do as well as they did, and that was without
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  Speaker 1: Brenton Strange and without their starting right tackle on Anton Harrison.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a really impressive effort in COLVI and
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  Speaker 4: Landon deserves a lot of credit for stepping in playing
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  Speaker 4: a different position the O the week before. You can
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  Speaker 4: almost tell Brian with this team in the first quarter
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  Speaker 4: what kind of day it's going to be. Not where
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna be able to win or lose. But it's
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  Speaker 4: not a team that necessarily overpowers you in the run game.
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  Speaker 4: But when they're getting three four and then sort of
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  Speaker 4: leaning forward, you know you can tell it's sort of
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  Speaker 4: their day. You didn't know they were gonna win that
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  Speaker 4: game in the first quarter on Sunday, but you knew
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  Speaker 4: they were gonna have a shot because they got moving
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  Speaker 4: on the line. And that's what this team is.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, they had defensive tackles.
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  Speaker 5: John pushed three yards off the line of scrims before
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  Speaker 5: the reaching for the linebackers at the second level. They
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  Speaker 5: made it easy for Travis and for basehel to be
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  Speaker 5: able to find holes and run with it. My favorite
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  Speaker 5: moment of the game yesterday, and we'll see this coming
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  Speaker 5: up in highlights, is Etn's second touchdown. I think it
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  Speaker 5: was about thirteen yards and you have Robert Hainsey and
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  Speaker 5: Chuma Ydoga out leading the way and as soon as
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  Speaker 5: they realized he scored.
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  Speaker 6: You see and watch for it in the.
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  Speaker 5: Lower left hand quarter of your sc you see Adoga
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  Speaker 5: jump into the air and Robert Hainsey do this sitting
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  Speaker 5: on the ground. It was just so clear they enjoyed
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  Speaker 5: the moment of playing bully ball and taking a Chargers
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  Speaker 5: defensive front that's pretty good and just driving them into
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  Speaker 5: the ground all day.
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  Speaker 6: It was really cool.
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  Speaker 1: So our final big thing today is gonna be record
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  Speaker 1: day because we have to mention Josh henz Allen passing
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  Speaker 1: Tony Brackens. He's now the sole holder of the franchise
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  Speaker 1: sac record. And Josh Henzellen talked a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: his motivations this year and what the team needs to
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  Speaker 1: focus on going forward.
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  Speaker 7: Like being pissed off was great for us because we
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  Speaker 7: lost in the way we lost, especially to a team,
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  Speaker 7: So like at that current moment, we needed to play
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  Speaker 7: pissed off next week, you know obviously, I mean, what
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  Speaker 7: are we gonna find something to be pissed off about?
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  Speaker 7: I think being pissed off kind of made people focus
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  Speaker 7: on their details, focus on what I have to come
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  Speaker 7: into this building and do. Maybe I have to come
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  Speaker 7: up earlier and get at youra treatment. Maybe you have
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  Speaker 7: to do more study and maybe you have to be
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  Speaker 7: in the playbook a little bit more. Maybe you have
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  Speaker 7: to study something differently. I did something, you know, I
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  Speaker 7: think that put more focus on Everybody has to be
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  Speaker 7: what they need to be. And that's the if that
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  Speaker 7: if that's the focus that we have moving forward, and
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  Speaker 7: we'll be a tough to.
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  Speaker 1: Be Brian the defense he's in that frustration from the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter against the Tech at Texans to kind of
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  Speaker 1: refocus obviously they were angry about it, but using it
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  Speaker 1: to refocus get back to what they're good at. Josh
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  Speaker 1: heinzelin stepping up to the challenge that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: laid down this week.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they had to have it listen. I'm confused.
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  Speaker 5: How is it that it gets a backup quarterback where
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  Speaker 5: you have some starters on defense you can't stop him.
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  Speaker 6: But against Justin Herbert, one of the hottest quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 5: In the league, you can lose Greg Newsom, who's your
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  Speaker 5: most seasoned corner and throwing Christian Brasswoll, no problem, right, Well,
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  Speaker 5: the pass rush got that done yesterday. They took the
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  Speaker 5: pressure off of a depleted second And remember, no Travis Hunter,
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  Speaker 5: we found out last week he's gone for the year.
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  Speaker 6: No Jordan Lewis, we don't know when he comes back.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't Newsom.
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  Speaker 5: And then the safety situation has been a problem all year.
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  Speaker 5: And what did he complete? Ten of eighteen passes for
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  Speaker 5: eighty one yards. Ridiculous, incredible effort. Congratulations. We both covered
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  Speaker 5: john Tony Brackens. We know what kind of player he is.
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  Speaker 5: For Josh Allen to be where he's at, and he's
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  Speaker 5: an incredible leader, which totally really wasn't for him to
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  Speaker 5: stand there yesterday and talk about his teammates. I thought
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  Speaker 5: it was a great moment for the franchise.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think what Josh was getting at more
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  Speaker 4: than anything in the SoundBite yes, they were pissed off
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  Speaker 4: on Sunday. He also knows it's hard to play seventeen
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  Speaker 4: games with that level of what's the word pissed offness?
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  Speaker 4: That so friendly. He's also trying to get across the
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  Speaker 4: message You've got to do guys what you did last
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  Speaker 4: week every week. We have to reach that level and
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  Speaker 4: be more consistent in all this. But to the point
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  Speaker 4: of the segment, unbelievable job. Defensively, they I didn't know
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  Speaker 4: if they could win the key match up. The key
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  Speaker 4: matchup was offensive line, the charges versus defense line of
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  Speaker 4: the Jacks. You knew if they won it they'd have
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  Speaker 4: a chance, and they did it in an incredible way.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it is a It is a banner day
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  Speaker 4: for this franchise.
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  Speaker 5: A signature win for Liam Cohen in his first year
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  Speaker 5: coming off of that loss.
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  Speaker 6: Incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Stay with us area on Jagsam. We're gonna go over
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  Speaker 3: I thought it actually really helped us.
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  Speaker 6: We don't you know. We did it for not the whole.
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  Speaker 3: Plan and everything. It was some specific stuff that we
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  Speaker 3: wanted to maybe play a little bit faster and just
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  Speaker 3: have a little bit more tempo in and out of
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  Speaker 3: the huddle, and just more clarity on some of the things.
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  Speaker 3: And I know it definitely helped us for sure. I think.
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  Speaker 3: I think today head.
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  Speaker 1: Coach Liam Cohen weighing in on Trevor Lawrence, who was
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  Speaker 1: seen wearing a wristband which he hadn't been wearing to
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  Speaker 1: start the season, something he's worn in the past. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a huge deal in and
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  Speaker 1: of itself, but I do find it interesting and I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate that maybe it wasn't working as well for them,
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  Speaker 1: and so Liam said, Okay, let's try it out for
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  Speaker 1: a little bit and put a couple of the plays
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  Speaker 1: on there. Not go all the way back in and
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  Speaker 1: with every single thing written down, but the ability to
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  Speaker 1: be like, hey, let's pivot a little bit and change
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  Speaker 1: something up, see if that works.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I wonder if maybe having that not only
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  Speaker 5: gave him confidence, but they were smooth, you know, they
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  Speaker 5: held on with one cult penalty yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing.
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  Speaker 5: Why No, So we talk all the time about how
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  Speaker 5: complicated the offense is and how many shifts and motions
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  Speaker 5: that Liam likes to use, and how it just hasn't worked.
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  Speaker 5: Perhaps going back a little bit made things smoother. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know whether the correlations there. Will obviously talk to
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  Speaker 5: Liam this week about it, but that's an amazing storyline
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  Speaker 5: that just got lost in everything else.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think people get frustrated in the first year
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  Speaker 4: of a regime because they expect to sort of open
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  Speaker 4: the Christmas package and the toy works right away. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, and you're mad at Christmas if like
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  Speaker 4: Da didn't get batteries.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta put together.
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  Speaker 4: So sometimes it takes a little time. OTAs and training
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  Speaker 4: camp are great, but real time stuff for an offense
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  Speaker 4: is the only way you really find out if it works.
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  Speaker 4: And it does seem like they are working toward finding
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be a perfection, but their level of
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  Speaker 4: efficiency and it's frustrating because you see it not work
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  Speaker 4: as a fan and think, oh, it's never going to
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  Speaker 4: get there. There have been moments, and speaking to this
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  Speaker 4: a couple of times In the last few weeks, there's
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  Speaker 4: been moments where it's five or six drives in a row.
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  Speaker 4: They're really impressive. I guess it was what three touchdown
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  Speaker 4: drives in a row against the Raiders it was what six? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: So you can sort of see it coming together. It's
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  Speaker 4: going to be that every week, but you can see
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  Speaker 4: it coming together. We're ten games in. Think about what
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  Speaker 4: it'll be twenty games in.
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  Speaker 5: Well, listen, you're coming off that loss in London to
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  Speaker 5: the m they've scored thirty twenty nine and not.
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  Speaker 6: Thirty five points.
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  Speaker 5: Not all I mean the special teams provided. But you've
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  Speaker 5: got to team that's starting well. I mean, John, how
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  Speaker 5: many years have we seen around here the Jaguars failed
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  Speaker 5: to score twenty five points on this season, you know?
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  Speaker 5: And now all of a sudden many, yeah, many many,
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  Speaker 5: And now all of a sudden they're consistently scoring. At
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  Speaker 5: least the last couple of weeks, they're consistently scoring, right.
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  Speaker 6: Good for them.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty five NFL team, We love it. Let's start out early.
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  Speaker 1: They established the run very early and it was nice
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  Speaker 1: to see both Facial Tutan and etn get involved.
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  Speaker 2: Touton was just John, I think you were.
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  Speaker 1: Talking a little bit about this earlier, and it feels
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  Speaker 1: like that. It really does feel like he's running down
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  Speaker 1: a hill at times, like just the gravity of the
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  Speaker 1: force that he brings and when he's rushing is it's
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  Speaker 1: violent and it's impressive.
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  Speaker 2: It's physical.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and again it sort of speaks to oh I
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  Speaker 4: was talking about earlier. He's a rookie, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: you saw him training camp a like weird combination of
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  Speaker 4: speed and power because all you heard on draft day
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  Speaker 4: was how fast he was. Okay, he's going to be
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  Speaker 4: a fat and then you see how powerful he is. Well,
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  Speaker 4: it takes time to figure out, Okay, where can we
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  Speaker 4: get him in the offense? What does he know? How
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  Speaker 4: much is he ready for? I think you probably saw
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  Speaker 4: yesterday the first day of many, many big days for
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  Speaker 4: this kid, because he's got an unusual skill set in
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  Speaker 4: the speed and power.
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  Speaker 5: If he hadn't had been caught around, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: just tripped up enough to slow him down, we would
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  Speaker 5: have seen the fifty five sixty yard touchdown run.
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  Speaker 6: Mean, people would have seen that.
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  Speaker 4: So before the season, we thought this was gonna I
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  Speaker 4: thought it was going to be a dynamic, big play offense.
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  Speaker 4: One reason is because you saw his speed and you
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  Speaker 4: thought there would be many or not many. It's hard
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  Speaker 4: to do that many times in the NFL, but you
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  Speaker 4: thought to be three or four where he broke it,
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  Speaker 4: and he's getting close.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about Josh heinz Allen and big things, but
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  Speaker 1: finally getting that Zach record. He's passed rushed as a
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  Speaker 1: whole struggle at times this season, but Brian for him
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  Speaker 1: to finally get it and in a big moment in
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  Speaker 1: the game and then also in a big win over
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers, Well.
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  Speaker 5: We've talked about his pressure rate being so high near
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  Speaker 5: the top of the league, but he just hadn't gotten home.
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  Speaker 5: And you could see on this play that Justin Herbert
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  Speaker 5: is trying to slide outside of him and Josh is
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  Speaker 5: falling to the ground, falling forward, and he just reached
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  Speaker 5: out like I am not letting this guy.
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  Speaker 6: Get away from me. That it's the epidity of effort.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he also rushed the right way. He didn't get
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  Speaker 4: out of his lane, and he would tell you against
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  Speaker 4: Houston there were a couple of big plays where he
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  Speaker 4: rushed upfield let him go inside. You know, also on
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  Speaker 4: that play, I didn't significant everybody was getting pressure, so
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  Speaker 4: he got flushed to Josh. So pass rushing is usually
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  Speaker 4: a team thing.
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  Speaker 6: It showed up yesterday, and by the way, it showed
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  Speaker 6: up with those two young guys.
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  Speaker 5: Danny Strugaut had a couple of just excellent pass rushes
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  Speaker 5: where he was just slightly off and then of course
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  Speaker 5: bj Green got screwed out of a sack.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the kind of thing they expect from bj Green,
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  Speaker 4: and I agree. I don't know how he avoids the
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  Speaker 4: penalty on that play and still play the game of football.
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  Speaker 6: He put his head to the side, which is what
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  Speaker 6: they want.
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  Speaker 4: You to do, and he didn't land and he was
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  Speaker 4: come at full speed and Herbert jumped into the air,
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  Speaker 4: which has made avoided it had mid air, he elevated
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  Speaker 4: and not landed on.
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  Speaker 6: Herbert, and by the way, which did a hell of
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  Speaker 6: a play.
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  Speaker 5: Speaking of the hell of play and it impacting the game,
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  Speaker 5: how about Trey Lance when he was about to be
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  Speaker 5: sacked by Dwan Smoot. It felt like Smoot let off
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  Speaker 5: a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Because he did want to get at right, which is unfortunate.
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  Speaker 4: Becau.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly what it did, and it also well, let's
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  Speaker 1: take a look at the play actually, so we have
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  Speaker 1: the BJ Green sack and it's tough because it also
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  Speaker 1: came late as well. So we're not going to go
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  Speaker 1: in on the officiating, but I think sometimes when the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback gets hurt, they're a little more.
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  Speaker 2: Apt to throw the flag there.
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  Speaker 1: But as as mentioned, let's just talk a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about the young guys. I think it was great to
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  Speaker 1: get them a little more playing time. We saw Ogboat
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  Speaker 1: didn't dress yesterday, so Beja Green and Strago where both
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  Speaker 1: up and we saw them both impact the game.
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  Speaker 4: I'll talk about the official had little bit I don't
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  Speaker 4: know too. It's not necessarily their fault. It is set
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  Speaker 4: up where like peop always doing to blame the officials,
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  Speaker 4: it is. It is a gray area that's almost impossible
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  Speaker 4: to officiate. It was a bad call, But if I'm
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  Speaker 4: an official, I don't know how else to call this.
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  Speaker 4: But I also don't know how else BJ Green makes
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  Speaker 4: the play. He's playing aggressively. There was clearly if you
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: put those officials in a room and said, did you
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: see an intent injur No, But by the letter of
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: the rule, they feel like they have to call this.
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: It's a broken area of the league's policy on quarterbacks
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: right now, and I don't know how to fix it
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: because they're not going to change it.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: Listen, then last week Trayvon Walker, right, you're asking a
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: guy to be an athlete.
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: He's chasing a player.
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: I got to keep my head all the way back
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: and look up at the sky to make sure that
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: my head doesn't slide in and somehow make contact with
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: the helmet.
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, you have to be able to judge intent,
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: right Sam. They'll never do that though. Intent well, it's
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: kind of like.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: The don't never bring intent back to this call. That's unfortunately.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: Well, listen, you saw last night, if you saw the
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: Lions Eagles game, a terrible call on pass interference as well.
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: We're making these.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: Guys make really difficult calls if you can't figure out
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: the intent.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: And it's a little again, this ain't gonna change either.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: But it's a little too offense centric right now. But
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: as I told somebody in the ozone, don't sit around
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: waiting for the lead to get defensive centric. We're gonna
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: get very.
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: Fraud I love the hood. It's a violent game.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: We'll go back a little bit.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Take a look at this etn's first touchdown of the day,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: a little wildcat touchdown.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: We know Liam Kung can be creative.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Sometimes he gets a little hamstrung by penalties or getting
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: behind the six, and he was able to go into
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: his full bag of tricks yesterday.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Well, and I think that's really the key. People get
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: so angry at the offense and they think the offense
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: stinks when it can't overcome third and twelve and long yardage,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: and they think that Liam Cohen is not being creative
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: when no offensive coordinator can be very creative. When you're
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: running fifty plays in a game, you've got to get
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: first down. It's why fans get tired of his harping
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: on penalties. But the pre stamp penalties for nine games. Oh,
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: this sucks, This sucks. This sucks a lot. Didn't suck
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: about the Jaguars offense except that they were in these
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: situations if they couldn't succeed.
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: In well and listen, they did what they did on
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: the ground yesterday to set up some of the creative,
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: clever play calling. They did it without Breton Strange. They
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: did it without Brian Thomas Junior, right, I mean they
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: did it without Anton Harrison and cole Van Landon played
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: really good football yesterday. Khalil Mack didn't even sniff the quarterback.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: They didn't get a sack. That's an offensive line that
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: gave up what twenty sacks in the four previous games,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: and colet Van Landon steps in that they were able
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: to be so effective with so many key players being down. Yeah,
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: that's off the Lieb going in his entire coaching staff.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Sacks are so incredibly situational, and the offensive line often
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: gets blamed for situations they can't control.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Let's look at Trevor's rushing touchdown and then and a
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: big catch from Jacoby Myers before that. Because Trevor Lawrence
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: didn't have a crazy good day. I think other than
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the interception, he played very smart with the football. But
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: seeing what Jacoby Myers could be as a target for him,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: A just trusted guy over the middle who kind of
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: sits there, waits for the ball to get to him
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit, and I feel like Trevor already has
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that innate trust in him.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: He was inaccurate in the first half. He was, in fact,
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: I wrote down on my notes a couple of times he.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Did miss Myers I think early too.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Letter Rip and then in the second half he
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: came out so sharp.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: I mean he threw the ball into his own coverage,
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: you know, whizzing it passed receivers a pardon the defenders helmets.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: I mean he was spectacular in the second half with
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: his ball placement, and because he was, it sets up opportunities.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Like this, Yeah, parting of the sea on that by
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: the way too, it looked like Alan Amiti in fifty eight.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: He stats aside. I thought he had moments yesterday. They
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: were very significant. He clearly needs timing with receivers right
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: now in his career to be successful. You saw in
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: the second half some of the benefits of timing with
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Jacobe Myers, timing with the guys that he's getting used
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: to in this scheme. I thought, three or four drives
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: when they were hot, it would be easy to overlook
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: how well he played. Also, look, he's probably a down
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: and distance quarterback right now. We talked about the offensive
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: line struggle on early. With the down and distant situation
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: for nine games a lot of good down and distance,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: It's much easier to play quarterback on third and two.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Although he made it look great because that throw that
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: we just saw to Myers was third and twelve.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was rectacular throw.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: You can't live there, but when you have timing of receivers,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: you can pick up a few more of those.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Checkers were five of ten on third down yesterday, which
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: again the Chargers were one of the best teams in
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: the league on third down percentage, and they were five
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: of six in the red zone and the only reason
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: they didn't go six of six was at the end
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: they slowed it down, but they.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Didn't slow down, they didn't take their foot off the
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: gas because how about interceptionally And then also we're going
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: to do that last touchdown for Metian, which this one
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: we all love the blocking four. But it was nice
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: to see, especially after how things ended against the Texans. Yes,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: this game is well in hand in the fourth quarter,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: but no, we're not gonna We're not gonna stop to
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: what we do.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Great to see Antonio Johnson make a play. They need
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: him because he's gonna be their starter at safety if
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: he stays healthy the rest of the year.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so much of interceptions. Again, this is a
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: bad throw by Herbert, Yes, a little unusual for him,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: but you get interceptions in sacks when you force the
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: other team to do things they don't want to do.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: The Chargers didn't want to be thrown every dawn in
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: that situation. That's usually how you get mistakes by putting
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: other teams in bad spots.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: And credit for youa Luacona that play.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: He got the depth which made it hard for Herbert
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: to figure out where to throw the ball.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: Look right, look at Hansey right there. I love it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: I just love the energy that he has.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: And I misspoke earlier I said this offensive line doesn't
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: really drive people off the ball. Sometimes that's what they are.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Yesterday they were driving guys off the ball. So again
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: big credit to that group. And look at but again,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: I think when you're in take dam when you're in
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: good situation, If this team cannot can reduce the penalties
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: and pre snap stuff, you're gonna see more of this
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: than not going forward.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: A lot of good stuff from yesterday. I stayed with us.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: We're gonna give you our hot takes coming back after
• 21:15
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• 21:41
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• 21:44
  Speaker 1: bringing you our hot takes today. So we all are
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: thrilled after that win of course against the Chargers, and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: now we're kind of looking ahead a little bit looking back.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: What's your hot take for us today, Brian.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: This is leam Cold's team, right, I mean, people go,
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: of course it was. He was hired right back and
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: give Theebruary. But there's a moment in a first year
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: head coach's tenure where if he's winning, if he's a
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: good coach and not a guy that's going to get
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: fired thirty six three hundred thirty six days in like
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: the guy that didn't make it in twenty twenty one
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: here that never became his team, but there's a moment
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: where it becomes his team. And this was clearly the moment,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: coming off the loss a difficult week. He had to
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: get him focused. The belief level in that locker room
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: has to be sky high. He reminds me of when
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: Tom Coughlin took the Jaguars to beat the Broncos in
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: the playoffs in Denver. He had almost been fired at
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: one point in that season, right where things where people
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: were questioning him, and they got through that playoff run
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, it was Tom's team and
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: they went on that run. It felt like that yesterday
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: was that resounding win, and no one will question him.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: It will be his team.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: He can do whatever he wants with these guys because
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: the belief level is so strong in what they got
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: accomplished this week coming out of Houston.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't say it better. It was his day.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I firmly believed it was already his team. I wasn't
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: surprised how they responded. I was surprised how how well
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: they played, which leads into my hot take I got
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: back here in twenty eleven. To me, this is the
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: most impressive when this team's had. The seventeen win over Pittsburgh,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: when they went up there and handled in thirty to nine,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: is probably the only one that's in the ballpark, because
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: I'm taking out any year where they stunk, which is
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: so considering the circumstance, considering what they needed, considering an
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: opponent on a three game winning streak, who I think
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: is still a playoff team considering the opposing quarterback. It
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: was as impressive and as important a win as I've
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: seen this team have. And I think also what it
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: sets you up for Now You've got a win over
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs, you got to win over the Chargers, You've
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: got playoff wins, head to head stuff. It was if
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: you looked at that game yesterday and think this is
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: anything related to quote same old Jags, you don't know.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: You're missing what's going on.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: I want to go back to seventeen real quick, because
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: ironically they lost in Arizona. They came home and they
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: had back to back to back games against the Colts,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: the Texans, and the Seattle Seahawks. That was an incredibly
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: impressive stretch.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: I remember that was the last twenty nine or.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: More point win when they beat the Texans forty five
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: to seven. But they had that run there Kai where
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: it set them up and pushed them into the playoffs,
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: pushed them into the division title.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: But I don't know that they played a team as
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: good as this win.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: And no, and I'm not trying to say that that is.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is is that in that really
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: playing well stretch, they put a couple of games together.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: Now you got to go do that because you have
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: teams the.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Next two weeks in Arizona that's got three wins and
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: the Titans that have won win Dare I say you
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: should in these?
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: Now you have to go do it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Can't can't let your foot off the gas and can't
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: play down to your ponment in those.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: So you do that, you get to eight and four,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: you're not and now you've got a swinger's chance to
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: get in the division. Yes, this is a uh you
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: got to build off this. It can't be a one off.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: We'll lot of doors open up after that.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: For me, I looked back at yesterday, and I know
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: we talk a lot about star players kind of making
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: your team, but for me yesterday it wasn't star power.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: It felt more like willpower at a little a little
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: word word play there.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: You work with words, right, John, I try.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Every once in a while. For me, there's tons of
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: injuries coming into this. You know, Brian Tomas Junior, you're
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: starting right tackles out. We thought Brent Strange was coming back.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: He's not quite ready yet for them to come out.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Not be pretty about it. Dominate the run game really early,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: it was it was the Cole Van Landon's, it was
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: the Johnny Months, it was Jacoby Myers who's been here
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: for maybe two weeks at this point, Antonio Johnson getting
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: an interception laid. It was your two new pass rushers, rookies,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: undrafted agents like those were the names that got you
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: that win yesterday. And sometimes we put so much on Yeah,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: these stars are paid a lot of money and they
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: need to be the ones making the big plays. Sometimes
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: it's about the other guys doing their one or two plays,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: their part in this, and that's kind of what got
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: it done for me.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: This is Christian Braswell is a great example of it, right,
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: a guy who's been around here on off the practice squad.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Put him in the lineup and he doesn't let you down.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: It just further underscores the Liam Lower of Houston Week
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: post Houston Week twenty twenty five. I think this is
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: going to be one of those weeks that we look
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: back on years from now and say, what an incredible turnaround.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: And this is how you build a team.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: And when they talk about kind of setting a standard,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: it's everybody contributing to that. And I think we saw
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: it fully for a full four quarters yesterday for the
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: first time this season.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: Now can we get some of those guys back that too.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Right exactly. Now we've got all this handled. Now the
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: stars can come back.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: The guy it's hard to be consistent, just on will power,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: the star power to playoff Kay's warder.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, the stars are back now, so we'll do star
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: power next week. We're hoping stay with us. We will
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: tell you what's coming up this week in what.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: You can expect.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Jags fans on Tuesday, November eighteen, from five to six
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: had the publics at University Square and University Boulevard to
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: meet the rookies. Bj Green, Danny Strigau and Facial Tutin
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: of your Jacksonville Jaguars. Jackson Deville and the members of
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the Roar will be there as well for special appearance publics.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: We're shopping as a pleasure.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Guys.
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: Look at this thirty first downs to eight.
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: One ninety two yards rushing to forty two. Yes, and
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: we had an unbelievable moment obviously happened for our franchise today.
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: That's us and let's not forget this feeling, because that
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: is us.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: I know for a fact.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: The guys that stepped up today. So many guys stepped
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: up and impacted that game. And guess what, every single
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: one of you should be proud of what you see
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: in the mirror.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Four quarters of football out of the Jaguars makes sense
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: to have hyped locker room and we love the victory
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: speeches and a.
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: Lot of energy in that locker room.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: If you looked around and saw different guys showing emotion,
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: it was it was cool moment.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Jarion Jones actually miked up for that one.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what we'll be allowed to publish
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: because of the way he speaks, but I'm sure what
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: they do let out will be cool.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: Well, they managed to cover up some of the coaches.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Trent, one of our shooters and editors,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: has a has to go through with fine youth comb
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: before we publish those things.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: Animal, let's put it outay.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good problem to have. Absolutely, John, we're
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: looking at this week. We were hoping at Brent's range
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: back last week. I think we'll hear some more later today,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: but hopefully maybe.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, is they expect him to play on Sunday, but
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: we're six days away from that, so I don't know
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: for sure. But not a concern that this is going
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: to continue.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: To Laerage.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: You also talk about the potential of Brian Thomas Junior's return.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: He was working out hard on the field before the game.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Anton Harrison. I don't know where he's at, but you know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: I don't think that season endings, so hopefully you'll have
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: him back and maybe Jordan Lewis at some point in
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: the near future.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: I think Eric Murray is two weeks from the like
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Eric Murray's possibility to come back and get him some points. So, yeah,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: your secondary. We don't know how long Newsom will be out, Yes,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: but I haven't heard anything beyond Travis Hunter that makes
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: me think long term. Can't get back for December. Keep
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: in it and get these guys back.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on all that stuff and we'll
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: be back with you guys on Wednesday as we look
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: forward to trip to Arizona later this week.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Dust