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10 Ways to Give as a Writer · The Daily Writer

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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the weekend edition of the Daily Writer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Each weekday, we bring you a short lesson that helps you live out the four practices of a great writer: creativity, consistency, courage, and connection.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here on the weekend edition, we take a deeper dive into those topics through conversations with notable writers, as well as teaching that helps us apply what we're learning and also prepare for the week ahead.
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  SPEAKER_00: The holiday season is in full swing, and most everybody is thinking about the gifts they're going to give to others.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just yesterday, my son and I were talking about some gift ideas for my wife, and of course, my wife and I have certainly been talking about gifts that we're going to get our son as well as some other family members.
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  SPEAKER_00: While we're probably spending a lot of time on Amazon or looking around at local stores, honestly the best gifts come from who we are, not just from what we buy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as a writer, you're in a really unique position to give to others in a wide variety of ways.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as I was thinking of ways that I can give and serve this holiday season, I thought it would be fun to make a list of a few different ways that all of us as writers can give to others.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is going to be just a very straightforward, fun episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're going to dive into 10 ways to give as a writer this holiday season.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let's dive in.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number one is mentor another writer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, the word mentor scares a lot of people.
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  SPEAKER_00: And why is that?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's because when we picture mentoring, we picture some kind of wisened old person almost like a Gandalf or an Obi-Wan Kenobi who knows everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like they have the force, they have these special powers who can pass along their knowledge and wisdom to a younger person.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when we think of mentoring that way, that's intimidating.
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  SPEAKER_00: And most of us think, well, I can't measure up as a mentor because I'm not like Gandalf or Obi-Wan Kenobi.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the truth is that mentors come in all shapes, all sizes, and all ages.
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  SPEAKER_00: And all that mentoring is is just passing along your knowledge to someone in some type of structured way.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when I say structured, I don't even mean it has to be like a class or a mastermind group or something.
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  SPEAKER_00: It could just be getting together every once in a while and answering questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: It can just be making yourself available to somebody and letting them know that, hey, you're you're available to help them if they need anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: So again, don't be intimidated by this whole idea of mentoring because it doesn't have to be some big formalized kind of arrangement.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would say I'm mentoring right now probably half a dozen people on a personal one-to-one basis.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's a wide variety of things there.
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  SPEAKER_00: That can mean, for example, uh, one of my former students, uh, we email back and forth multiple times a week, actually.
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  SPEAKER_00: She asks me a lot of questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I send her books occasionally, and we have, I would say, kind of a mentoring relationship going on right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I have two or three other former college students, actually, who I'm doing sort of the same thing with, but just not nearly as frequently.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's one, one of my former students, I'm mentoring him with kind of in, I would say, his creative life and in his writing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that that happens once every you know two or three months.
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  SPEAKER_00: We might email or get on Facebook and uh chat a little bit or get together and have coffee or breakfast or something.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then there are other people that I don't do it quite as frequently with, but it I would still describe it as a mentoring type of relationship.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, it's not because I know everything, because I certainly don't.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's simply because I've been doing this for a long time and I've accumulated some knowledge that I'm happy to pass along to somebody else.
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  SPEAKER_00: A big reason why we don't get involved in mentoring relationships many times, I think, is because we don't value the knowledge that we have.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that there's kind of like this this weird humility thing that goes on a lot of times where we know that we we have some experience and knowledge, but we don't value it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we think, well, I'm not good enough to be a mentor or a teacher, or I'm not really sure they would value what I have to offer.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's hogwash.
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  SPEAKER_00: I say it's hogwash.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why I'm doing a British thing here.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think because I was watching a Christmas Carol the other night or something.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it is hogwash.
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  SPEAKER_00: You do have things to teach other people, you do have knowledge that other people can benefit from.
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  SPEAKER_00: So don't stress out about some big formal arrangement.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just make yourself available to people.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I want to challenge her to do this: just pick one person in your sphere of influence, uh, some kind of connection you have, and just make yourself available to them to answer questions and to pass along your knowledge about writing and other areas.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is a huge need for mentoring these days, and we don't have nearly enough mentors in our society.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm asking you to challenge yourself to think of yourself as a mentor and to make yourself available that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's go on to number two, which is give helpful feedback to another writer.
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  SPEAKER_00: One of the biggest needs that every writer has is feedback, and we all need to know whether our writing is working or not.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, editors are great at giving feedback, but in the earlier stages of writing something, you don't always need an editor.
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  SPEAKER_00: You just need honest feedback about your writing.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you're in a writing group or if you interact with some other writers on a regular basis, you can also offer to read other people's work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now you can't do this for everybody, but as they say, you can do for one what you wish you could do for everyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, one key thing here is that notice that I said give helpful feedback to another writer.
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  SPEAKER_00: What this means is that we're giving suggestions that will be helpful to them.
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  SPEAKER_00: If we read something that's not working, is there something that we can suggest to them?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh is there a specific thing that they could do to fix the problem?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is there a way that is there a resource that we know of that would help them with whatever's not working in their writing?
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the reason why a lot of criticism is not really helpful.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not just the fact if someone says something in a critical or hurtful way, it's also the fact that most criticism just is not helpful because they're not giving us a solution to fix what they perceive is wrong with whatever they're criticizing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So whenever you are giving feedback to people, always try and give something that is going to help them fix the problem, whatever that problem is.
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  SPEAKER_00: The third way that we can give as a writer this holiday season is this is a very, very simple one, but it's really fun and important, and that is to buy and promote your friend's books.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, this is a slam dunk, easy one because every writer wants to sell books, and every writer wants to know that people are reading their stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Plus, books make really great, usually fairly inexpensive gifts.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you're not only giving a meaningful gift, you're also supporting your friends.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would encourage you not just to buy one copy, but to buy five or ten copies.
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  SPEAKER_00: A friend of mine recently bought five copies of my last book, The Artist Suitcase, and she asked me to sign those and then ship them to her.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that totally made my day.
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  SPEAKER_00: I thought that was really, really fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: And of course, I was happy to oblige.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, the other part of this is promoting a friend's book.
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  SPEAKER_00: So buying them is one thing, but promoting them is also really, really important as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can mention the book on social media, you can tell people about it in person, you can let people know about it through email or include it in a newsletter if you have one.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of different ways to help promote people's books.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the bottom line is that authors love people who promote their books.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you want to be your author friend's favorite person, you know what to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: Buy their books and promote them.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really that simple.
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  SPEAKER_00: The fourth way to give as a writer this holiday season is to leave reviews for books and podcasts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, this is closely related to the last point when I talked about helping get the word out about people's books.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next to book sales and good word of mouth, book reviews on Amazon and Goodreads, as well as podcast reviews, are really, really super helpful.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, I know that not every author has a podcast, and that's totally cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for the ones who do, make sure to leave reviews because they're one of those things that take very little time, but they make such a huge difference.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I challenge you to make a list of 10 books and 10 podcasts that you can leave reviews for in the coming week.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, of course, you're going to leave those reviews on Apple Podcasts, which by far is the most important place to leave podcast reviews.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's also called iTunes.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if you don't use Apple products and you don't have an Apple ID, I would encourage you to go ahead and set up one for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's free, it doesn't cost you anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just for the purpose of leaving podcast reviews.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think reviews are that important.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think all of us should be reviewing people's books and podcasts on a weekly basis, if not a daily basis.
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  SPEAKER_00: So again, if you don't use Apple stuff, go ahead and make that ID.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can get on iTunes and do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's really, really important.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's go to number five, which is write that book you've been planning.
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  SPEAKER_00: One of the very best ways to give to other people is through your own writing.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have ideas, you have stories, and you have content that can greatly help other people.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think that most of us tend to diminish the value of our own work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Most of us don't realize the incredible treasure that we carry around with us.
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  SPEAKER_00: The fact is that you have a unique perspective on life that other people need to hear.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you don't write that book that's burning in your heart, nobody else is gonna do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's simply something that you have to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would consider this a mission or a calling if you've been thinking about this book for a while but you haven't done it.
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  SPEAKER_00: The fact of the matter is you've got to find a way to get this done.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, here's the cool thing: chances are pretty good that you have some extra time over the next few weeks during December to write that book.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I challenge you to make a plan to get it done over the next 90 days.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whenever you get that book done, it's going to be one of the very best gifts that you can possibly give to the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: So December is a great time to get started on that book.
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  SPEAKER_00: The sixth way to give as a writer this holiday season is to publish your work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, closely related to the last point, when I talked about writing your book, you must also publish your writing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And not just your book, but your writing in general.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some writers spend an awful lot of time writing, but they never put their work out there for other people to see.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if that describes you, I challenge you to start publishing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it doesn't have to be just books.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact, I challenge you to post regularly on social media.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can also write blog posts, which is a great way to publish regularly.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can start an email newsletter or you can write for other websites and other media outlets.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's all kinds of ways that you can publish.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the point is to publish and to do it on a regular basis.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think at the very least, you should be doing it weekly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Monthly just doesn't cut it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, if you're putting out like a blog post a month and you're expecting that to make a difference, um, I've got some bad news for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's probably not.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm just, you know, again, I've said this before.
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  SPEAKER_00: My name is Kent, I'm your friend, and I'm always going to tell you the truth, at least as much as I possibly can.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the truth is that you can't write on a really inconsistent basis and expect it to make a difference.
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  SPEAKER_00: You've got to do it on a regular basis.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's why this show is called The Daily Writer, because I want you to be writing every single day.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, when I say every single day, I mean really five times a week.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can take the weekends off if you want to.
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  SPEAKER_00: I happen to do a big chunk of my writing on Saturday mornings.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh right now it's Saturday afternoon, in fact, and I'm my family's gone, they're doing some other stuff, and I am recording this podcast on Saturday afternoon.
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  SPEAKER_00: So whenever you can get it done, it's great.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the point is just to do it on a consistent basis, to do it on a regular basis.
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  SPEAKER_00: And really, with all of the ways to get your content out there these days, there's no reason why you shouldn't be publishing.
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  SPEAKER_00: My goodness, we've got blogs, we've got social media, we've got uh Amazon for publishing for self-publishing our books.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's tons and tons of ways that you can be publishing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what are you waiting for?
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  SPEAKER_00: Just pull the trigger and get your stuff out there.
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  SPEAKER_00: The seventh way to give as a writer this holiday season is to gather your writer friends for a call or a mastermind.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is one of the most powerful ways that you can give to other writers, especially right now in the middle of this crazy pandemic, people are starving for community.
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  SPEAKER_00: They want to belong to a cause or a group that matters to them.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is the perfect time to invite some writer friends for a call on Zoom.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I do this quite frequently.
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  SPEAKER_00: Several times a week, I do calls with other writers and entrepreneurs just to chat and to see how we can help each other.
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  SPEAKER_00: I also participate in a weekly mastermind call with a few other writers.
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  SPEAKER_00: And in addition to that, I'm doing regular client calls and podcast interviews and a few other things in there as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, most people wait around for someone to invite them to something.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I would say, what are you waiting for?
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't need an invitation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Instead of waiting for somebody else to take the lead, you take the lead and you invite other people to a call.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what that does is it not only are your other writer friends grateful for the invitation, but it also helps to establish you as a leader within that community.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I want you to be known as someone who takes action.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want you to be known as somebody who makes a difference and who makes things happen, not as somebody who sits around passively just waiting for other people to give them opportunities.
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  SPEAKER_00: Opportunities might come your way, but the best opportunities are the ones that you are actively seeking out.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when you're doing things that actively are going to draw those opportunities.
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  SPEAKER_00: So see what some of your writer friends are up to.
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  SPEAKER_00: See what they're working on and see if you can get them together for a Zoom call.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think you'll be really surprised at the connections and the blessings that come about because of this one simple act of gathering writers together.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, writers are by definition kind of a solitary bunch.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we like to kind of run alone.
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  SPEAKER_00: We don't tend to run in packs, but that has to change.
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  SPEAKER_00: It really does.
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  SPEAKER_00: The very best things happen in community.
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  SPEAKER_00: So don't wait around.
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  SPEAKER_00: Get a couple of your friends together and uh get on Zoom and see what people are working on and see how you can help each other.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's move along.
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  SPEAKER_00: The eighth way to give as a writer this holiday season is to say thank you to clients or others who have helped you.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you're a writer, which means that you're good with words.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's a huge blessing this time of year because we naturally want to recognize people who've helped us the previous 12 months.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that means that you're probably good at writing notes, writing letters, and thank you cards and so forth.
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  SPEAKER_00: So think back over this past year.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I know that 2020 has been an absolutely crazy year for sure, but in the midst of all the chaos, there have there have been people who have helped you succeed.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you have clients, they've helped your business.
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  SPEAKER_00: So don't forget to take some time and to say thank you to these people for the specific ways they've brought good things into your life.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, don't forget the fact that you're a writer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Be creative with how you express your thanks to other people.
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  SPEAKER_00: One of the most fun cards that I sent in recent memory was to my friend Vincent Puglisi, who you've heard me talk about on this podcast before.
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  SPEAKER_00: He heads up the Total Life Freedom Community, which I've been a part of for a while.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I know that he likes the band Queen.
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  SPEAKER_00: So last year I got a Queen t-shirt from Amazon, had it shipped to my house, and then along with that, I included a thank you note.
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  SPEAKER_00: But this wasn't just a regular thank you card.
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  SPEAKER_00: What I did is I took about a dozen titles of Queen songs and I integrated that into the thank you card.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, in other words, what I did is I first wrote out the thank you card on separate paper, and then I very creatively figured out where those titles could go in that card.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I of course had to rewrite it a bunch of times, and honestly, it took a it took a while to draft this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I wanted to say my thanks to him in a very special and unique way, and he definitely appreciated that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the cool thing is that you can do the very same thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh take this idea and use it for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you're sending a thank you card to a client, for example, figure out if is there a certain band they like?
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: Is there a certain um certain drink they like, like coffee?
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: In fact, I did a similar thing for uh one of my writing mentors.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I sent her kind of the same type of card, but I did it with uh coffee terms.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's all kinds of things you can do with this, but use your creative powers as a writer to express gratitude to people in a fun and a meaningful way.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that's a blast and they will appreciate it as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, the ninth way that we can give as writers this holiday season is we can tell authors how their work has impacted us.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, with the gift of social media, you can personally connect with just about any author.
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  SPEAKER_00: How cool is that?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, imagine if you wanted to do that 20 years ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: You would have had to figure out their mailing address, write a letter, put it in an envelope, get a stamp, and all that stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, we don't have to do that these days because we have the power of social media where almost everybody in the world is connected.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, there's a lot of different ways to let an author know how their book impacted you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, one of those ways is social media.
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  SPEAKER_00: And a simple way to do this is to take a picture of you holding the book or take a picture of a certain passage from the book where you've underlined it or highlighted or something, and then share that picture on social media.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is the important part, talk about a specific way that the book helped you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm telling you, every author absolutely loves this, no matter how famous they might be.
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  SPEAKER_00: Every author wants to know how their book has helped people.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: And just like with thank you cards, you can be really creative in how you can acknowledge authors and their books and how those have impacted you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, finally, number 10.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the tenth way to give as a writer, and that is to give to yourself by reading.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for this final point, let's bring it back home by talking about this very simple way you can give to yourself, and that is simply by reading more books.
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  SPEAKER_00: The best way to give a better version of yourself to the world is by becoming a better person in the first place.
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  SPEAKER_00: And one of the best ways to do that is simply by reading good books.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, the funny thing about being a writer is that ironically, sometimes we feel guilty for taking the time to read.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's absolutely essential if you want to continue growing as a creative person.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: So don't feel bad about taking the time to read.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact, it's essential that you plan this time, even if it's just 10 or 15 minutes every day.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so those are 10 ways to give as a writer this holiday season.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let me list these off once again, just for the sake of kind of jogging everybody's memory.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number one, mentor another writer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number two, give helpful feedback to another writer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number three, buy and promote a friend's book.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number four, leave reviews for books and podcasts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number five, write that book you've been planning.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number six, publish your work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number seven, gather your writer friends for a call or mastermind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number eight, say thank you to clients or others who have helped you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number nine, tell an author how their work impacted you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And number ten, give to yourself by reading more books.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: Now I don't want to overwhelm you with all these, so instead, what I want to do is challenge you to choose just two of these and put them into practice from now until New Year's Day.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: So I would love to hear about the difference it makes in your writing, your relationships, and your creative life.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, hey, that's it for this episode.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks so much for listening.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: I always appreciate your support.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: I know that I say that all the time, but I really sincerely appreciate the fact that you're listening to this.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: As always, remember that your writing has the power to change lives, and I'll see you in the next episode.