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Congressman Warren Davidson joins Brian Thomas this morning · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: It's 7.05. Fast approaching 7.06 here at the 55 KRC
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Speaker 1: Morning Show. Love this time of week. Regularly get to
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Speaker 1: hear from the man that's on the phone right now.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the 55 KRC Morning Show, a man
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Speaker 1: who will still be congressman after the first of the year,
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Speaker 1: Warren Davidson. Welcome back to the program, my friend. It's
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Speaker 1: a pleasure having you on, as always.
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Speaker 2: Likewise, Brian. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: So everybody going to pack it up and run home?
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Speaker 1: We've got some work to do here, Congressman Davidson.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a pretty strong let's get something
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Speaker 2: done mindset. I don't know that people were surprised by
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Speaker 2: the direction of the election, but by the magnitude of it,
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Speaker 2: people are still kind of taking that in. It's like, wow,
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Speaker 2: what was that? So people are definitely taking note of
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Speaker 2: what the voters had to say. I was really happy
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Speaker 2: to come back and move a step in the right
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Speaker 2: direction by selecting Jim Jordan to be our leader. Good
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Speaker 2: news for the country. Good news for Ohio. And I
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Speaker 2: think good news for Republicans. I think we're going to
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Speaker 2: finally have a a better consensus on what is a Republican.
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Speaker 1: Well, and that's the time of reflection. I read this
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Speaker 1: interesting analysis by Mike Wilson, the founder of the Tea
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Speaker 1: Party here locally, and he said, yeah, you can go
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Speaker 1: ahead and scream about the election being stolen, but don't
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Speaker 1: hide behind that without being introspective. And you need to
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Speaker 1: focus on perhaps why, assuming the election was proper, on
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Speaker 1: why we took such a bloodbath last week. Let's talk
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Speaker 1: about it. Let's engage in a discussion. Let's find the
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Speaker 1: right path, which I've always gone with traditional fiscal responsibility,
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Speaker 1: limited government, and free market because I think that's all
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Speaker 1: the Republican Party should stand for. But that's me, my
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Speaker 1: sphincter with my opinion. But Jim Jordan's selection, I think,
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Speaker 1: was an excellent choice if for no other reason. He's
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Speaker 1: like the wartime concierge. They're expecting investigation after investigation after investigation. Man,
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Speaker 1: this guy is great at what he does. He's been
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Speaker 1: demonstrably proven to be a great investigator and tenacious as hell.
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Speaker 1: He's going to be a good fighter against maybe overreach
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Speaker 1: of the Democrats. Your thoughts?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's what he kind of built his
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Speaker 2: brand in the public consciousness, because there's been an awful
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Speaker 2: lot of that over the last, you know, frankly, decade
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Speaker 2: with President Trump. That became the whole dynamic for a
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Speaker 2: lot of things. I mean, he really kind of raised
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Speaker 2: his profile on the Benghazi issue when Trey Gowdy was
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Speaker 2: leading the effort there. But Jim Jordan sort of stood
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Speaker 2: out on that oversight of Benghazi. But before that, I mean,
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Speaker 2: he was the leader on cut, cap and balance issues.
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Speaker 2: That got our fiscal house in order. So, I mean,
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Speaker 2: I think we're going to have a strong policy shop.
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Speaker 2: We're going to lay out good ideas on affordability. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I've already been talking with colleagues. I think there's a
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Speaker 2: better path forward on health care. I think there's a
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Speaker 2: better path forward on housing. Even though we did pass
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Speaker 2: a housing bill last Congress that hasn't hit the markets yet,
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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of things that will move
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Speaker 2: in the right direction policy-wise. And, you know, look, Democrats
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Speaker 2: came in and started off by, you know, bad ideas.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll just say, look, a good thing that
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Speaker 2: happened yesterday is the Richard Starr Act passed on Veterans Day,
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Speaker 2: passed the House, and a House version of it also
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Speaker 2: passed that has pay-fors of it. So, you know, Republican
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Speaker 2: version and Democrat version both passed to be able to
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Speaker 2: make sure that we do a little better job of
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Speaker 2: taking care of veterans. And that's probably the most bipartisan
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Speaker 2: thing that we have going right now. Wow.
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Speaker 1: Thankfully, support of the American veteran is still popular even
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Speaker 1: on the Democratic side of the ledger. I imagine the
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Speaker 1: DSA wing probably was not in favor of doing that,
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Speaker 1: but that's just my speculation. Congressman Davidson, I didn't see
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Speaker 1: the final vote.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think they even voted with the rest of
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Speaker 2: the Democrats on that one. But, yeah, I'm not sure
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Speaker 2: the DSA actually wants us to have a military. They
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Speaker 2: don't even want us to have prisons or borders.
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Speaker 1: Or police.
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Speaker 2: They are the crazy people. And there are going to
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Speaker 2: be more of them here. So hopefully that does not endure.
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Speaker 1: Do you expect the Democrats to overread their victory? I mean,
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Speaker 1: you can't deny they had an overwhelming victory, but I
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Speaker 1: don't personally believe, and we're still going to deal with
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Speaker 1: the aftermath as we assess what is going to happen
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Speaker 1: next and where the American people actually are. But I
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Speaker 1: do not believe for a moment that this swath down
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Speaker 1: the middle, the sort of maybe centrist Democrats to the
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Speaker 1: extent they exist, maybe the only loosely affiliated with the
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Speaker 1: Republican Party In the last presidential election, voters, those from
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Speaker 1: the swath of blacks that voted for Trump, the swath
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Speaker 1: of Hispanics that voted for Trump, the union people who
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Speaker 1: abandoned their traditional party loyalty and voted for Trump, apparently
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Speaker 1: not exactly a cohesive coalition that was easy to keep together.
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Speaker 1: I think that's what they defected. But I do not
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Speaker 1: for a moment believe they defected the Democrats because they
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Speaker 1: want some guy playing in high school basketball against their girls.
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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. I mean they elected some pretty crazy
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Speaker 2: people like Al Sayed up in Michigan that are all
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Speaker 2: aboard with all the radical, crazy wing of their party.
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Speaker 2: But internally, they have a big feud because the traditional
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Speaker 2: Democrats are trying to hold on to what defines a Democrat.
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Speaker 2: And they know they're not going to keep winning places.
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Speaker 2: I mean you're not going to become senator of Mississippi–
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Speaker 2: trying to pretend that you don't know the difference between
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Speaker 2: men and women and calling Mother's Day birthing person's day
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Speaker 2: and stuff. That's not going to hold anywhere with some
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Speaker 2: of these seats that they were able to flip this time.
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Speaker 2: That's not the reason they won. So talking with some
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Speaker 2: of the more stable, sane Democrats, they know that, but
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Speaker 2: they've also got their own feud over some of those things. And, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I think that's the reality of the country. I mean,
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Speaker 2: if you were paying attention to voters— There were a
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Speaker 2: lot of people that felt unheard, and they went out
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Speaker 2: on election day and basically vented, you know, you're not listening.
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Speaker 2: And Democrats, I think, broadly know that that wasn't an
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Speaker 2: embrace of all their ideas, but it was a rejection
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Speaker 2: of the results that Republicans failed to deliver.
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Speaker 1: Well, Donald Trump has sort of outwardly suggested he'd be
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Speaker 1: open to some bipartisanship, and to pick the issue, I
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Speaker 1: think immigration was one of them. But Do you think
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Speaker 1: for a moment, Congressman Davidson, that we're going to see
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Speaker 1: perhaps a return to some like sort of perhaps Tip
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Speaker 1: O'Neill brokered bipartisanship that we saw under Reagan or the
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Speaker 1: Newt Gingrich bipartisan solutions that were negotiated under the Clinton administration?
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Speaker 1: Do you see those days returning given the Democrats crisis
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Speaker 1: and where they're going to go as a party? And
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Speaker 1: of course, the Republicans introspection about where they need to
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Speaker 1: go as a party. Is that an opportunity to return
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Speaker 1: to some semblance of order or do you think those
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Speaker 1: days are gone?
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Speaker 2: I mean, it seems improbable with the current cast of characters,
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Speaker 2: but there are things that we've been hopeful that we
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Speaker 2: could do together and agree on. I think we're pretty
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Speaker 2: far apart on immigration. I mean, just remember, look, last fall,
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Speaker 2: Democrats worked together to shut the whole government down because
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Speaker 2: they didn't want to fund ICE and Border Patrol. That
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Speaker 2: isn't an immigration issue. We don't want a border that exists.
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Speaker 2: We don't want to. We want to keep sanctuary cities.
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Speaker 2: And you can't reconcile that. It's the same. President Trump,
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Speaker 2: even in his first term, said, hey, I'm willing to
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Speaker 2: work with Pelosi and Schumer on DACA. I mean, these
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Speaker 2: are kids that their parents brought them into the country.
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Speaker 2: They didn't truly break the law. Their parents did when
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Speaker 2: they were little kids. So they've really known no other
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Speaker 2: home than the United States. They grow up and they
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Speaker 2: don't really have a defined legal status there. He's like,
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Speaker 2: I'm willing to work with you on them, but their
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Speaker 2: parents broke the law, so we can't just keep all
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Speaker 2: the chain migration issues, and they suddenly can have a
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Speaker 2: path to being citizens because we worked to deal with
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Speaker 2: the kids. And the Democrats said, we're out. Basically, we
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Speaker 2: get everything, including amnesty, or we're going to give nothing.
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Speaker 2: They want to keep the political issue alive. Maybe there's
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Speaker 2: a different mindset over there, but I think that's the
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Speaker 2: same mindset President Trump has. And I think that's where
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Speaker 2: even Stephen Miller would maybe agree on something there in
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Speaker 2: exchange for some more enduring reform that's going to lock
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Speaker 2: in the policies that are working. I mean we do
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Speaker 2: finally have a secure border. And for the life of me,
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Speaker 2: a secure border and crime in general, like how is
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Speaker 2: enforcing the law partisan? I mean it isn't for the
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Speaker 2: vast majority of the country, but you get to places
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Speaker 2: like Hamilton County. They're getting rid of all the Republican judges. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: They're handcuffing the police to keep them from doing their jobs.
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Speaker 2: And somehow a small faction of the public supports that.
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Speaker 2: And somehow that wins on Election Day. I don't understand
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Speaker 2: how that could happen.
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Speaker 1: I don't either. And you have to note, though, in
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Speaker 1: going into 2024, one of the reasons that everyone's attributing
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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump getting elected is because he promised to
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Speaker 1: be tough on border security. He delivered on that, and
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Speaker 1: I think people are happy about it. The problem is
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Speaker 1: this backlash, or at least perceived backlash, to the overzealous
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Speaker 1: enforcement of rounding up folks that have been here, some
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Speaker 1: for a long time, and this has rubbed some people
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Speaker 1: the wrong way. I can't gauge the public temperature on that.
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Speaker 1: I know some of the actions of ICE probably were
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Speaker 1: a little overzealous, but that has been given really a
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Speaker 1: lot of credit to why Donald, well, the Republican Party
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Speaker 1: lost in this election. Border security, good, but enforcement and
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Speaker 1: removal of illegal immigrants may be a little too much.
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Speaker 1: It's Is that policy going to change? Do you think
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Speaker 1: that's an accurate read, at least in part of the vote?
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Speaker 2: I think that's accurate for the sentiment for a lot
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Speaker 2: of people. And talking with some of my colleagues from Texas,
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Speaker 2: that was definitely one of the factors in Texas. And,
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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, there's a lot of Latino voters
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Speaker 2: in Texas. The majority of them actually vote Republican in Texas.
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Speaker 2: But they said, hey, what you're doing there is wrong.
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Speaker 2: And that was sort of the tone shift. that was
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Speaker 2: underway when Mark Wayne Mullen became Homeland Security Secretary, right?
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Speaker 2: So they've been trying to go differently. And I think
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Speaker 2: one of the most basic things is you do get
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Speaker 2: sympathetic to somebody who's been in the United States for
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Speaker 2: 10 years and they get a mortgage on a house.
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Speaker 2: It's like, well, if you're here unlawfully, how do you
10:19
Speaker 2: even have a bank account? So some of the most
10:21
Speaker 2: basic things like just, you know, holding really every bank,
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Speaker 2: every financial institution, they're supposed to spy on their customers.
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Speaker 2: They spy on you and me. And they have these
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Speaker 2: suspicious activity reports, cash transaction reports, know your customer laws
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Speaker 2: that they're supposed to do. I mean, you don't get
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Speaker 2: to operate a bank if you don't do that.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: So that's part of the condition of operating a bank.
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Speaker 2: Somehow they're a black box, and they don't know anything
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Speaker 2: when it comes to whether you're even lawfully present in
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Speaker 2: the United States. And why? Because they like doing the business.
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Speaker 2: They like the wire transfers back to pick your country.
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Speaker 2: And that's a big part of a lot of countries'
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Speaker 2: economy is the repatriated money from the United States. And
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Speaker 2: so it seems like the Somalis became experts at how
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Speaker 2: to get it repatriated out of the United States. and
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Speaker 2: to get extra from all of our fraud, waste and
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Speaker 2: abuse that we're seeing. So hopefully we can shut down
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Speaker 2: the fraud, waste and abuse. And a big part of
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Speaker 2: that's just following the money. And that would be a
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Speaker 2: lot of leverage without all the confrontational SWAT teams stacked
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Speaker 2: at the door and all that stuff. It'll be safer
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Speaker 2: for the public, too.
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Speaker 1: I agree with you completely. And come on, the ability
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Speaker 1: of the federal government to launch compliance investigation, regulatory compliance investigation,
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Speaker 1: that's what Eric Holder used as a threat to banks,
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Speaker 1: when he wanted them to stop doing businesses with certain
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Speaker 1: companies and politically affiliated groups. So that, I suppose, would
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Speaker 1: work against banks insofar as enforcement of the obligations they
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Speaker 1: have to determine the person is a citizen before handing
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Speaker 1: out a bank account. More with Congressman Davidson, including a
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Speaker 1: comment about HEGSA. 721-55-CARE, C.D.
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Speaker 2: Talk Station.
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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson on the line. All right, 119th Congress
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Speaker 1: got some days to get things done. I know one
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Speaker 1: of the, before we get to Hegseth and a comment
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Speaker 1: or two about that, this so-called bipartisan regulatory reform insofar
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Speaker 1: as getting projects done on a more expedited basis, ending
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Speaker 1: the big giant question marks that continue to float around
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Speaker 1: any given project. Favorite illustration on this one, of course,
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Speaker 1: the XL pipeline, which is approved, then it's denied, then
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Speaker 1: it's pulled, the plug pulled, and environmental lawsuits filed. They
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Speaker 1: start from scratch. Over and over again, that's got to end,
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Speaker 1: and it sounds like there's some bipartisanship willingness to end that.
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Speaker 1: Where is that particular bill, and do you see it
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Speaker 1: passing before you guys go home for the year?
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Speaker 2: You know, there are Democrats that actually say they want it.
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Speaker 2: It really breaks the Green New Deal grip of the
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Speaker 2: radicals and their parties, so that might be a chance
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Speaker 2: to see them cross over and support Republicans. So you
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Speaker 2: make it bipartisan. Because otherwise, when they go to put
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Speaker 2: it in, if they do it when they're in the majority,
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Speaker 2: they're going to have a hard time passing the rule
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Speaker 2: because the radical wing of their party will be out.
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Speaker 2: And so I think there may be some common ground
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Speaker 2: there because there are Democrats that realize that we probably
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Speaker 2: should generate some electricity. And if we are going to
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Speaker 2: deliver on lower gas prices, we're probably going to actually
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Speaker 2: have to have some refineries and make it okay to,
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Speaker 2: you know, get oil and gas in the United States.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you get Democrats in charge of Texas, you know,
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Speaker 2: the world's biggest, uh, oil field basically, uh, at this point.
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Speaker 2: And I think some of those Democrats are going to
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Speaker 2: have to break the mold on the, uh, a, we
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Speaker 2: can only do wind and solar nonsense. So, uh, there
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Speaker 2: is a chance. I think we get that done before
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Speaker 2: the end of the year and, you know, permitting reform broadly, um,
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Speaker 2: I think took some progress. I mean, we got modest
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Speaker 2: permitting reform in the housing bill because people realize, hey,
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Speaker 2: if you don't build more houses, it's going to be
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Speaker 2: really hard to get prices down unless you just crash
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Speaker 2: the market. So there are things we could have done
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Speaker 2: that I think would have moved housing in the right direction.
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Speaker 2: I've already talked with colleagues a lot about those. So
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Speaker 2: I think we're going to have another good housing bill
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Speaker 2: in the next Congress. But we already got progress on
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Speaker 2: permitting reform there. So I feel like there's a bipartisan
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Speaker 2: way to do something.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad to hear that. I just am praying
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Speaker 1: that permitting reform goes through. We're in a huge, huge
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Speaker 1: issue with energy supply here. Of course, data centers, I think,
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Speaker 1: and again, I always go back to small modular reactors,
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Speaker 1: which seem to be the ultimate solution to all of
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Speaker 1: our problems. Carbon-free, abundant production, small, small space. These things
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Speaker 1: sit on about the size of a shipping container. We
14:48
Speaker 1: need to grease the skids for those and then let
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Speaker 1: these large data companies go ahead and buy them and
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Speaker 1: bring them to their projects. That's just one solution for
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Speaker 1: a growing problem. Our electricity demands are not going to
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Speaker 1: taper off.
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Speaker 2: No, and look, the administration's moving forward on that, and
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Speaker 2: they couldn't get enough support to get some of that
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Speaker 2: reform through Congress, unfortunately. And they just said, we don't
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Speaker 2: have to wait. We're putting them on military installations. We
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Speaker 2: control the installation. We're going to put them in. And
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Speaker 2: that's already underway. So the small modular reactors are getting
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Speaker 2: turbo boosted because of Defense Production Act and use on
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Speaker 2: military bases. And I think when you prove that use case,
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Speaker 2: I think the adoption is going to be big. And
15:33
Speaker 2: for the climate people that say, oh, CO2 is somehow
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Speaker 2: going to kill the planet and not just make plants grow, then–
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Speaker 2: then we're going to have nuclear and it doesn't have
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Speaker 2: any CO2, no carbon from the reactors. And these are
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Speaker 2: very safe and stable, and hopefully they prove to be
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Speaker 2: that way. They certainly have been when they're used, and
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Speaker 2: even in a different way. You know, you've got nuclear-powered
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Speaker 2: ships since the 50s, right? So this isn't like, oh,
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Speaker 2: we just figured this out. I mean, it's been in use.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just getting ready to say that. When
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Speaker 1: you were done with your comments, I was going to say,
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Speaker 1: right now I hear my Submariner friend, Curbidge Mike, screaming, hey,
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Speaker 1: we've been using them since the 50s. It's like, this
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Speaker 1: actually works. Anyway, can you stick around? Because we haven't
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Speaker 1: talked about Heg, Zeth, and maybe a couple other items
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Speaker 1: on the agenda. Unless you don't have time, Congressman, I
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Speaker 1: certainly understand.
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Speaker 2: No, happy to chat. Thanks, Brian.
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Speaker 1: Fantastic. In lieu of local stories, more with Congressman Warren Davidson. Again,
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Speaker 1: thank you to the voters. 730... On a Thursday, talking
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Speaker 1: with Congressman Warren Davidson here on the 55KRC Morning Show.
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Speaker 1: Pivoting over to the impeachment resolution was referred back to
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Speaker 1: committee yesterday. Apparently, Democrats weren't interested in showing up. Eleven
16:45
Speaker 1: of them weren't there. Seven Republicans weren't there for the vote.
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Speaker 1: But the tabling passed 211 to 204. And you were
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Speaker 1: in favor of tabling it. You voted for tabling it
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Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that I just want to
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Speaker 1: get some clarity on this because I know my listeners
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Speaker 1: are curious because back in September— The motion on a
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Speaker 1: war powers resolution directing the House to remove troops from
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Speaker 1: Iran passed 220 to 204 with your vote for passage.
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Speaker 1: How do you differentiate the war powers vote to the
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Speaker 1: vote yesterday, Congressman Davidson?
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Speaker 2: Well, scapegoating P. Hegseth for a duty Congress shirt and
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Speaker 2: a decision President Trump made is wrong. You know, it's
17:26
Speaker 2: not unprecedented that the president would take the country to
17:29
Speaker 2: war without congressional authorization. But it is unconstitutional, right? So
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Speaker 2: that's where this burden and blame lies. And what Democrats want,
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Speaker 2: and at least one Republican apparently, which is disappointing because
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Speaker 2: we're good friends, is to have everyone in the chain
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Speaker 2: of command second-guess the commander-in-chief. And Congress isn't even fully
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Speaker 2: second-guessing the commander-in-chief, right? So we haven't gotten the– the
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Speaker 2: War Powers Resolution across the House and Senate. And some
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Speaker 2: people say, well, if we ever do, it's still unconstitutional.
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Speaker 1: Great.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's never been tested. No president's ever taken it
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Speaker 2: to court. And it's never happened where both the House
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Speaker 2: and Senate put this on the president's desk. And so
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Speaker 2: if we do, I suspect it'll be tested in court.
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Speaker 2: And ultimately, I almost guarantee you, Democrats and Republicans are
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Speaker 2: going to work together to fund the government by December 11th.
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Speaker 2: But they'll fund the war when they fund the government.
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Speaker 2: And if they can't get the votes to fund just
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Speaker 2: the war in Iran, they'll probably fund the war in
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Speaker 2: Iran and Ukraine. I mean, this is how crazy D.C. is, right?
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Speaker 2: So instead of doing things the right way and going
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Speaker 2: to the people that really were on the ballot looking
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Speaker 2: at Congress and saying, well, let's get the resolve to
18:53
Speaker 2: do it, then this is just a way to just
18:56
Speaker 2: blame shift. And I think the other thing is if
18:58
Speaker 2: you look at the articles, it also wanted to impeach
19:03
Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth for treating the cartels as enemies of our country. Now,
19:07
Speaker 2: to me, they're enemies of our country, and it's about
19:09
Speaker 2: darn time we started treating them that way. So smoking
19:12
Speaker 2: the drug boats, to me, is a great thing. Finding
19:15
Speaker 2: the cartels where they are, they're killing Americans. Drugs are bad,
19:19
Speaker 2: but they're not supposed to be poisoned. They're killing Americans
19:22
Speaker 2: to the tune of hundreds of thousands of people. They're
19:26
Speaker 2: welcome in our sanctuary cities. The sanctuary cities want them there.
19:29
Speaker 2: Democrats all voted to impeach Hegseth for going after the cartels.
19:35
Speaker 2: And of course– so Republicans thankfully said, no, we're not
19:39
Speaker 2: going to go after Hegseth for doing something that he
19:41
Speaker 2: should be doing. So I think it was just a
19:45
Speaker 2: bad resolution personally, and I'm glad we referred it back
19:48
Speaker 2: to committee.
19:48
Speaker 1: Well, the resolution I suppose, came up because of the
19:52
Speaker 1: failure of Congress to do something that was in the
19:55
Speaker 1: scope of his authority, the exclusive authority to declare war
19:57
Speaker 1: rest with Congress. And again, going back to the War
19:59
Speaker 1: Powers Resolution, it does give the president some flexibility in
20:02
Speaker 1: terms of dealing with imminent threats. Question, what's an imminent threat?
20:06
Speaker 1: This is what's being debated. Now, Judge Napolitano on yesterday
20:09
Speaker 1: with some very controversial remarks, he loved the fact that
20:12
Speaker 1: Massey filed this motion. He thinks that Hegsess should have
20:14
Speaker 1: resigned in the face of the illegal order to make
20:19
Speaker 1: these attacks. Question, is it an illegal order? I mean,
20:23
Speaker 1: Napolitano suggested something along the lines of a Nuremberg defense.
20:25
Speaker 1: It doesn't work. You can't say I was ordered to
20:28
Speaker 1: do it when it's clearly unlawful. But is it clearly
20:31
Speaker 1: unlawful given the state of the law and the fact
20:33
Speaker 1: that every president since FDR has is operating in a
20:36
Speaker 1: war theater this way.
20:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's the problem. I do believe
20:41
Speaker 2: it's unconstitutional, but that doesn't mean there's a law against it, right?
20:46
Speaker 2: So that's part of the problem that we had. When
20:50
Speaker 2: you look at Matt Taibbi's exposure of the Twitter files, right,
20:53
Speaker 2: it was a conspiracy theory to believe that the federal
20:57
Speaker 2: government was silencing critics for their approved plans on COVID, right?
21:05
Speaker 2: So obviously that was happening. Everyone knew it was, but
21:09
Speaker 2: the left would go out and pretend, just like they
21:11
Speaker 2: pretended Joe Biden was saying the whole time, that it
21:14
Speaker 2: wasn't happening. And when Musk bought Twitter, that's what made
21:20
Speaker 2: them truly hate him. He exposed the fact that, no,
21:24
Speaker 2: this is going on, and here's the emails from the FBI.
21:26
Speaker 2: They were coordinating and targeting. They were also debanking people
21:30
Speaker 2: for political views. So they won't debank people that aren't
21:33
Speaker 2: even lawfully in our country, but they'll debank you for
21:36
Speaker 2: your political views. So they're not there to enforce the law.
21:39
Speaker 2: They're there to wield power. So that's the selective application
21:44
Speaker 2: of Democrats. But we couldn't take action other than firing
21:48
Speaker 2: people because it's not a crime. So there are things
21:51
Speaker 2: like that that we're trying to embed in the criminal
21:53
Speaker 2: code so that if the federal government does things that
21:56
Speaker 2: deny your constitutionally protected rights, that there is culpability there.
22:01
Speaker 2: We got some of that reform in FISA. If you're
22:03
Speaker 2: abusing your access to foreign intelligence data to go after Americans,
22:09
Speaker 2: we have criminal penalties in the version that passed the House.
22:13
Speaker 2: But it's not clear that it would be a crime
22:15
Speaker 2: to carry out the orders of the president of the
22:17
Speaker 2: United States. And in a way, in particular, that's unprecedented.
22:22
Speaker 2: So what would have been, that's not unprecedented for the
22:26
Speaker 2: president to do, what would be unprecedented is is to
22:28
Speaker 2: go after the Secretary of War or Secretary of Defense.
22:33
Speaker 2: It would be unprecedented to go after the generals, but
22:35
Speaker 2: that's exactly what the seditious six, you know, Alyssa Slotkin,
22:39
Speaker 2: Jason Crowe, Mark Kelly, and Chrissy Houlihan and some others,
22:44
Speaker 2: two others, they were going after, they want to go
22:47
Speaker 2: down into the rank and file members and say, oh, well,
22:51
Speaker 2: If you were on a ship at the ocean and
22:54
Speaker 2: you loaded a round into the tubes on the ship
22:58
Speaker 2: and it was shot, well, you were a criminal. I
23:01
Speaker 2: mean these are the guys that want to read Miranda
23:04
Speaker 2: rights to people on the battlefield. I mean you can't
23:06
Speaker 2: wage war that way. This is crazy. It would completely
23:10
Speaker 2: cripple warfighters. But that's consistent. They might not want to
23:15
Speaker 2: take credit for completely closing the Department of Defense. Well,
23:18
Speaker 2: they make the daggone place useless. And that's why they
23:20
Speaker 2: hate Pegasus. He's like, no, the military exists to fight
23:24
Speaker 2: and win wars. It doesn't exist for your woke ideology
23:28
Speaker 2: and your studies about white rage and LGBTQI plus nonsense.
23:34
Speaker 2: Climate change is not the biggest threat that the Department
23:36
Speaker 2: of War, Department of Defense should be dealing with. Democrats
23:40
Speaker 2: had all these crazy things, and he's undoing that, and
23:43
Speaker 2: the troops love him for it, which makes the Democrats
23:46
Speaker 2: hate him even more. So why would we pander to
23:49
Speaker 2: this nonsense? So I'm really disappointed that any Republican would
23:53
Speaker 2: think about supporting this idea.
23:55
Speaker 1: And I understand that all day long. It's just the
23:58
Speaker 1: confusion based upon the legal predicate that exists and, again,
24:02
Speaker 1: has existed for so many presidencies. It's almost as if
24:04
Speaker 1: you know, why would you go after Hegseth? All the
24:06
Speaker 1: presidents have done this. It's almost like a waiver or
24:08
Speaker 1: a stoppel argument in the law. No, you've done it
24:11
Speaker 1: over and over and over again with no legal challenges.
24:13
Speaker 1: It's basically de facto the law that you can go
24:16
Speaker 1: ahead and wage war on a whim if you're president
24:18
Speaker 1: of the United States of America. So it's a problem.
24:20
Speaker 1: But Hegseth has done a wonderful, wonderful thing. I mean,
24:23
Speaker 1: recruiting's up, physical fitness up, you know, the back to
24:26
Speaker 1: doing exercises, you know, and learning how to be, well,
24:30
Speaker 1: people who break things and kill people, which is the
24:32
Speaker 1: role of the American military. And I salute him for
24:34
Speaker 1: all that work. Finally, are we going to finish an
24:38
Speaker 1: appropriations process or with a debt ceiling coming up, are
24:40
Speaker 1: we going to see a government shutdown or is it
24:42
Speaker 1: in the Democrats' interest to get something solidified before next Congress?
24:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to be really interesting to see how
24:50
Speaker 2: they play that. Obviously, for Republicans, we want to clear
24:54
Speaker 2: the debt limit while we are in the majority so
24:57
Speaker 2: that the Democrats don't have leverage to push crazy stuff.
25:01
Speaker 2: They're not going to use the leverage to get their
25:05
Speaker 2: sound money and restore balanced budgets. They're going to use
25:08
Speaker 2: it like they tried before to shut down ICE or
25:12
Speaker 2: Border Patrol or make sure we do some kind of
25:15
Speaker 2: amnesty deal or something. So you don't want to give
25:17
Speaker 2: the Democrats something that they can use as leverage. But
25:21
Speaker 2: that's a little bit of a zero-sum game. They want
25:23
Speaker 2: to have it as leverage going into the next Congress.
25:27
Speaker 2: So I think one of the real goals for Republicans
25:30
Speaker 2: is to make sure we find a way to increase
25:32
Speaker 2: the debt limit. And, you know, unfortunately, the debt limit
25:37
Speaker 2: hasn't worked as an idea because everybody It's essentially saying
25:41
Speaker 2: we're going to default on money that we already agreed
25:44
Speaker 2: to spend. So the real fight on spending is when
25:47
Speaker 2: you agree to do the spending. So in a lot
25:50
Speaker 2: of people's view, and certainly mine, is when you say, well,
25:53
Speaker 2: we're not going to increase the debt limit. Well, that's
25:56
Speaker 2: like saying I'm not going to pay for the charges
25:59
Speaker 2: that I made with my credit card. No, you made
26:01
Speaker 2: the charges. You're going to have to pay them. So
26:05
Speaker 2: I think the challenge has been if you say, hey,
26:08
Speaker 2: I need more– a higher credit limit on my credit
26:11
Speaker 2: card because I got other spending I'm doing here, well,
26:16
Speaker 2: Usually you say, well, how are you going to pay
26:18
Speaker 2: it back? And we don't do that. So that should
26:21
Speaker 2: be part of the negotiation and say, there's a plan
26:24
Speaker 2: to get our spending under control. I assure you in
26:28
Speaker 2: the current state of affairs, there is not going to
26:30
Speaker 2: be a plan to get our spending under control by
26:32
Speaker 2: the end of the year.
26:33
Speaker 1: Indeed. And real quick, I have to throw in, I
26:35
Speaker 1: have never heard any Democrat, any socialist, whatever, explain how
26:39
Speaker 1: we can afford Medicare for all. They keep saying they're
26:41
Speaker 1: going to bring it around. That's going to increase our
26:43
Speaker 1: debt by basically double over 10 years. Has anybody explained
26:47
Speaker 1: to you the payment methodology for that, Congressman Davidson, before
26:50
Speaker 1: we part company?
26:52
Speaker 2: They keep it simple. They just say tax the rich.
26:54
Speaker 2: I mean, the math doesn't work, but they always say
26:57
Speaker 2: tax the rich. That'll pay for everything. And it's like
26:59
Speaker 2: even if you confiscate the wealth and somehow it could
27:01
Speaker 2: magically regenerate next year, it still wouldn't keep paying for
27:05
Speaker 2: some of the things that they're trying to do. Yeah.
27:07
Speaker 1: I did the numbers. If you take all the wealth
27:09
Speaker 1: away from all the billionaires here in the United States
27:11
Speaker 1: of America, you end up on the high side with
27:13
Speaker 1: about $ 8 to $ 8 to $ 9 trillion, which is basically
27:18
Speaker 1: a couple of years of funding for Medicare for all.
27:20
Speaker 1: And then they won't be making any money because you've
27:22
Speaker 1: confiscated everything. So Congressman Warren Davidson, always a distinct pleasure
27:26
Speaker 1: having you on the morning show. I appreciate you coming
27:28
Speaker 1: on and talking with my listeners and me. And I
27:29
Speaker 1: wish you all the best to get something done before
27:31
Speaker 1: we move into next year.
27:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, likewise, Brian. God bless you and all your listeners.
27:36
Speaker 1: Back at you, sir. Look forward to next week and
27:38
Speaker 1: doing this all over again. 741 right now, 55 KRC.