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Martial Arts, Mount Whitney & Starting Over in Southern Oregon with Jesse Newell | Go Wildly Podcast · Go Wildly Podcast

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  Welcome to Season 2 of Go Wildly podcast.
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  More on that in a second. Let's get into it.
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  Hi, Are we on? Yeah, great, wonderful.
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  Good morning. Welcome to TODAY.
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  We're doing it. Today on Go Wildly, we are
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  floating downstream with Jesse Newell.
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  Wait, what day is it? Today is Monday, January 25th.
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  6th and we are boating. And we are going boating.
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  It's the 26th, yes, January 26th and.
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  We're going boating in the winter.
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  In the winter, no fog. No fog.
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  It's the first day without freezing fog in the morning in
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  like 4 plus weeks. It's the perfect day to spend on
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  the water in the winter. I'm excited.
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  It's. Going to be a great day.
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  We're floating from Chinook Park to Baker Park in Grants Pass and
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  it's going to be wonderful. So Jesse here grew up in
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  Ventura, CA, right by the ocean, where fishing with his dad
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  shaped his love for water, solitude and slowing down.
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  As the place he called home grew faster and louder, the things
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  that once grounded him began to disappear, and home no longer
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  felt like home. And Southern Oregon have been
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  calling Jesse for years. So after a long period of
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  burnout, the end of a major relationship, and working just
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  to survive, he finally listened. And in January of 2024, just two
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  years ago, yes, he packed up and moved north in search of a
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  slower pace and a clean slate. What he found here, no surprise,
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  was grounding and growth. Today, Jesse is the owner and
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  head coach of Southern Oregon Martial Arts Academy where he
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  trains people of all ages, including me.
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  That's How I Met Jesse in self-defense and builds a strong
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  power based community. We are so excited to have Jesse
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  here with us today to talk about the outdoor moments that shaped
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  him and what it takes to start over when a place calls you
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  home. And it's perfect for our theme
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  of our second season here, where we are really highlighting the
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  voices of Southern Oregon and why people call Southern Oregon
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  home, and especially those who have chosen to move here versus
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  US who grew up here and continue to choose to live here, but
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  folks who have come from other places and specifically chose
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  this place to call home. Yes, excellent.
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  Happy to be here. Awesome, yeah.
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  Let's get on the boat. Yeah, I'll let you guys get on
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  and then I'll untie us and push us off.
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  So. Where you're going to sit on the
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  blue pad. OK, facing in which direction?
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  Wherever. Which?
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  Wherever. It's we're just, we're just
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  friends hanging out on the boat. Just on the boat, yeah.
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  I'm like, I'm like, which direction?
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  She's going to have the camera, so.
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  I'm going to go back to you. Can you put that back into the
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  middle and I'll put it in the? Big box.
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  There. She goes again.
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  Don't know the rest of the lyrics.
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  I'm just, I just, I just have the whole I'm on a boat thing
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  right now. I'm on a boat.
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  I'm on a boat thing. You're on a boat.
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  I'm on a boat. I mean.
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  Do you, Do you, have you rafted? Not since being here now, so
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  this. Is, but you rafted.
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  Before, yeah, rafted before the 1st.
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  And so I've also had one of my students that trains with me.
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  He's a raft guide. So he runs a gearboat, OK.
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  And with like some of the other Outfitters, because he's always
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  like, hey, let's go and do this. Like I don't have time.
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  He's going to be so jealous when you find out that you went with
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  girls. Friends be like what the hell,
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  I'm like I want to let. Out your Rogue River virginity
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  to us. Sorry, Brian.
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  Sorry, Brian. Sorry, Brian.
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  It's alright. It'll be fun.
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  It's going to be great. This isn't truly I don't.
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  I mean the Rogue River is the whole thing of the Rogue River
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  is like a a true highlight of our area and like all of the
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  Rogue River is beautiful and amazing.
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  But I have to say this is not like Rafty, like we're on a raft
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  and we're we're floating, but like the real good rafting is
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  down down Yonder. Wow.
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  Yeah. We're just floating today.
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  We're not really rafting. We're out for a cruise, Yeah.
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  We're out for a cruise. Little leisurely boating
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  experience. Yeah, we're just on a no splash.
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  You like where I put my cup. I do look at where I put my cup.
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  I'm going to crawl between you guys.
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  Very glamorous. It's so exciting.
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  I'm excited to be on the river today.
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  I am the same. I used to do a New Year's Day
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  float every year for like 8 or 9 years.
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  I know, Where's my? Phone and I've stopped doing
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  that and so this is my first day on the river this year also.
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  Yeah, I mean, what a great way to start it out.
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  Doesn't it just feel so good to feel the water move under you
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  and. Move along.
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  There's already a sense of calling.
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  It's so pretty to the the clouds and the sky and the no fog.
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  Holy moly. We're getting all of our
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  pictures in, guys. Yeah, before we have to start
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  talking. Before we have to really get
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  into it. Just like take it in.
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  Take it. All in.
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  The first song I listened to in the car this morning on my way
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  to work was Get Low. So I'm like my mind's in a
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  little dirty of a. Turn it up and get Ratchet.
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  Yeah, yes, yes. Then she pulled up to me playing
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  Pimp Juice. OK, yeah, that was the only. 1.
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  I've been on this Spanish guitar kick, so yeah, nice and mellow.
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  Very more aesthetic. Yeah, nice, nice and mellow.
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  Well, though I will have to say so, I went to conditioning class
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  on Friday morning. Did we did turn up a little bit.
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  We're like stretching in like happy baby pose and my neck, my
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  back starts playing and it's me and three guys.
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  Yes, little Missy Elliot, Yeah. Like it's a good thing we're all
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  of appropriate age and there's some rapport here, because
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  otherwise this could be supremely awkward.
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  It's yeah, luckily we were all adults and we we all grew up in
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  that same era. Yeah.
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  You know, so it's. Yeah, how old are you?
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  Me, I am 39 going on 40 this year.
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  Oh, same with my husband. Yeah, 39 going on 40 and I still
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  don't know. Do you have anything planned for
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  your 40th? For 40th?
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  Not yet. When's your birthday?
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  October 1st. We got time.
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  Yeah, October 1st is. Invited since we're new besties.
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  We just became best friends. Yeah.
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  Especially if your son starts to train.
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  Well, I won't actually train. I've been feeling called.
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  I just don't have the time. We were talking about that.
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  Do we have the time? Are we making the time?
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  Clock. It time is a construct and
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  you're in charge of your life. I mean, like I said in the car,
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  having children and a spouse is a little different in time
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  management, but still, you get to decide how to spend your
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  time. That's so true.
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  I know. Well, I'm doing, I'm feeling and
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  I'm feeling I have a new career that I'm doing.
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  So it's like I'm trying to piece it together, especially now
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  starting podcast Mondays and and we do a little bit on
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  Wednesdays. So I'm just trying to get into
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  the my flow state with routine and schedule.
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  Got to get the schedule. Down got to get the schedule
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  dialed that way you. Can figure it out like what
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  works here, what works there. Yeah, I also am feeling called
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  to start like a little like hiking club.
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  Nice. So yeah, we'll see where things
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  land. I.
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  Mean I'm thinking it easy. That's one of the things for
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  being here. You can go ahead and do all
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  those outdoor adventures and make it to where it's just you
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  get to be able to have your work and your play too.
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  And then if you can have your work as play, it's even better.
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  Yeah, I have to say, like, how long have you been doing martial
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  arts? Martial arts.
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  Oh, sorry, no continued martial arts for me.
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  He's been lifelong. I started karate before and then
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  I was at the local boys and Girls Club from, you know, 4 to
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  6. And the karate instructor at
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  that time disappeared. And then so shortly after a
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  wrestling coach came up and that man, my, my youth wrestling
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  coach pretty much shaped the majority of my life and being
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  able to like help drive and direct me of like being a good
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  human, what a good coach looks like, what a mentor looks like.
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  And so from six all the way through high school, I was able
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  to wrestle. And then right after high
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  school, I started, I fell in love with the sport of boxing
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  and I said screw wrestling and started boxing.
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  And like my dad put me into a men's club.
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  So I had grown men that were like 3540 years old.
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  And I was like, you know, 1718 years old at the time.
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  And I was getting beat up by those guys.
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  But I loved every second of it, you know, And so I just kept
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  doing that. And then back home in Ventura,
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  there's an MMA gym that opened up when I was like, 20 years old
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  and I had four months of experience, and I had my first
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  professional mixed martial arts site.
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  Oh my God, yeah. Well, the reason why I asked you
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  is because you look like somebody that like you have the
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  quintessential face and look of somebody that does martial arts.
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  So I'm like more like UFC fighting.
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  Like I could see you up on this in the you.
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  Can't see it, but the ears are a little mangled, so yeah, you.
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  Definitely look like a fighter. I get the hey, you look like
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  Conor McGregor, a little bit like Conor McGregor like that.
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  The hey, you look like TJ Dillashad.
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  I'm like, yeah, I get that a lot.
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  And there was another guy that his name was Jason Miller and
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  they're like, you look like him too.
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  And I'm actually trained with that guy or side by side look
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  like we could be brothers, you know.
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  So it was. So I get that you look like so
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  and so a lot. And the fact that, you know, I
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  did do a season of The Ultimate Fighter at one point in time.
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  And so I you know, you're, you're like observation of me
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  being like, yeah, you look like 1, you know, because I was or am
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  or because you are in a past, in a past experience.
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  Yeah, yeah. For.
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  Sure, that's funny. We're going to keep this
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  conversation going in just a second, but I have to pause here
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  because what Jesse is talking about, that personal
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  southernoregonmartialarts.com. OK, Jesse, keep going.
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  Oh, Emily, I do have to say I need a glove.
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  OK. Do you have any extras?
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  Yeah, that's the one thing I did forget.
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  Look at somebody's loincloth is up on the.
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  There's a tent back there and. Some we need to come do a robe
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  ribbon clean up up here. Yeah, I have to say, being this
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  close to the water, I when I was waiting for Emily up at
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  Schroeder, I was, I was being this close to the water.
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  I'm looking, I'm going. That whole thought of like if I
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  was a fish, I'd be right there. As a fish, I'd be right there.
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  I'm just going, Daniel, it's twofold.
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  Jesse, do you want gloves? I'm OK for now, thank you
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  though. Hey, go, Heather.
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  Thank you. That's one of those things
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  because the cold hurts my hands and my ears the most.
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  Yes, you know. Yeah.
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  So I keep. I'll put them in my pocket to
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  give it a little reprieve. I got gloves, I got socks, I got
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  hats, I got neck warmers, I got waterproof pants.
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  You're you're all part of the six piece, right?
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  Yeah. I even saw hand warmers in
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  there. Yep, I got hand warmers.
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  I might need one of those. Put it inside the gloves.
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  I got blankets. Yes, you brought blankets.
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  I got tarp my dirty. I have hot, lightly flavored
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  water. Hot, lightly flavored water.
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  You mean like, like a faux tea? Yeah, yeah.
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  It's faux tea. I almost got.
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  I almost brought some bone broth, like the dissolvable bone
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  broth I'm so into right now. It's so good.
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  I I like the beef more than the chicken.
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  The chicken has a funny smell and flavor, but the beef is
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  where it's at. Beef's a little saltier, denser.
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  No, no, it just has better flavor that chicken.
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  I don't know. It has like this like wet dog
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  flavor to it. Sometimes things taste like wet
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  dog to me and I can't. I just can't.
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  I'm like what? Yeah, I've had this, this I for
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  papaya. It tastes like dirty socks to
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  me. Yeah.
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  Yeah, there's certain foods just like that.
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  Yeah. When I eat tomatoes with onion,
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  with onions, for whatever reason it taints that like the onion
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  taints the tomato. So like if they're in a salad
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  together cannot do it. They have to be set.
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  Like I can't eat them in the same dish unless it has vinegar
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  with it and it's like more like a Greek summer salad then I can
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  handle it. But if it's just plain, it does.
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  Like the onion does something weird with the tomato in my
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  mouth, it fornicates with it in my mouth and I can't.
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  It tastes like gross. Well, that's fascinating.
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  Let's dive into. Don't eat tomatoes and onions
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  fornicating in a mouth together, no.
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  Jesse, tell us a little bit more focused in on who you are, where
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  you came from, and how you ended up getting into martial arts and
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  into spending time outside. OK.
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  Or here in Southern Oregon. Yeah.
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  And then, yeah, what, what really led you to Southern
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  Oregon and. Obviously, you know, like we
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  were, we've said before, I'm coming from Southern California,
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  Ventura, CA. I grew up on the beach, you
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  know, so that that beach lifestyle, going to the beach,
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  surfing, body boarding, boogie boarding, you know, obviously
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  skateboarding, any of those board sports, that's something
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  that I grew up doing. So it's just like I was already
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  drawn to being outdoors because like I grew up at the time where
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  it's like my dad's like, Hey, I need you to be home by by the
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  time the streetlights turn on. If you don't, if you don't find
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  the phone and be able to call me like the four cell phones were a
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  thing, you know, when everybody had landlines.
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  Beepers. Beepers, pagers, yes, the pagers
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  you had to have like the little the code you let you let people
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  know where you're going to be. But yeah, so I grew up around
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  there so it was already outdoors as it was.
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  I didn't like to spend too much time indoors, didn't play video
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  games, you know, and just like that lifestyle was always so
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  much fun. And growing up with my dad, like
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  we always go fishing like that was what we would do, you know,
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  And our local lake, Lake Casitas was one of the best fishing
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  lakes in new Western United States for for years until the
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  city started to grow. And because a lot of the city's
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  main water came from that lake. And so as city, the city grew,
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  the water levels were depleted. And So what was a great fishing
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  lake turned into, you know, it was a pool or a pool, It was a
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  pond. And so all the really large, you
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  know, the really big largemouth bass, like that went away.
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  And so the fishing went away. Then as I got older and doing my
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  own thing, like we weren't just hanging out as much, but it was
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  like that was something that was very passionate and I grew up
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  doing with my dad and sharing with him.
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  And so that was like a really core memory when I was growing
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  up as a child was always being outside at the lake, going
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  fishing, getting up in the morning, playing hooky from
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  school, being able to go and do that and.
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  So that's the key to a good life.
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  Play hooky from school. Play hooky from.
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  School, you know, and get outside and enjoy life, you
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  know. It's simple.
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  It's simple. Yeah.
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  But yeah, it's just growing up in that growing up outside was
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  something that I enjoyed because any time that I was indoors.
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  Great Blue Heron. Great Blue.
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  Heron just chilling. That's a great fissure, but
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  sorry to interrupt. I saw it and I wanted to clock.
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  It something shiny like ADD. Yeah, always in forever.
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  Yeah, same. Yeah.
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  And. Now they're trying to get back
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  to where we're going, but. Fishing.
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  Fishing, fishing, fishing, fishing.
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  Going. Up outside.
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  Outside, but like that was something that like go outside
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  camping, hiking, like that was something that I enjoyed doing.
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  But being in Southern California, being in a city, it
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  was wasn't something that I got to do all the time, you know,
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  But so for me to be able to like go out and camp, that was like a
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  privilege. You know, in order to go camping
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  anywhere, whether that wasn't the lake, we'd have to drive a
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  few hours to be able to get outside and do that.
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  And so the only time I ever go camping or go anything out in
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  the like far away the wilder's house, going with my
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  grandmother, you know, she would take me.
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  So my grandmother, they'd go and take me.
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  Like she was like growing up, she was the core experience of
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  like going to the mountains and going skiing, going
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  snowboarding, you know, taking me.
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  And she had a cabin in, in Mammoth when I was growing up.
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  So she would Take Me Out there. That ass grandma, Yeah.
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  Grandma. Grandma's rat.
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  She, she was a gene. Grab a gene.
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  Yeah, grab a gene. But yeah, she has since passed
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  away. But like, she left a legacy for,
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  you know, left a huge legacy for me to be able to be like,
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  there's enjoyment, you know, she was a very caring woman, loved
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  animal. She was like an ASASPCA donator
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  and always would like, go spend time at animal shelters and do
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  all that. So she was just like, she was
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  tiny, but she had a lot of love. I love that.
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  So that like that introduction to being able to go snowboarding
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  and skiing with my grandmother, that was one of those things.
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  I was like, damn, I really love this.
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  You know, I really like the mountains.
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  It's just, it's just it's fun. It's like that whole John Muir
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  thing is the mountains are calling and I need the answer.
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  You know, it's like that was it? And so as I got older, you know,
• 20:11
  I started to, you know, I had like my own, my own
• 20:13
  transportation and, and being able to get outside, like I
• 20:16
  started to do the whole camping on my own, going camping with
• 20:19
  friends and, and being able to do that.
• 20:22
  And so I had like grew this love for it and like, it was until
• 20:28
  like 2018 to where I was really like, you know what, this is
• 20:31
  something that I need to do, you know, And so it was, it was
• 20:35
  getting out and like, I mean, I'm going to go, I'm going to
• 20:39
  travel to here. I'm go to Joshua Tree.
• 20:40
  I'm going to spend the night in the desert, you know, go hang
• 20:43
  out there or I'm going to go up to a Big Bear and go find a
• 20:46
  campsite that's outside and go to Big Bear and do that.
• 20:48
  And, you know, I was starting to do that.
• 20:50
  And then I remember when, like Kovid hit, that's when it really
• 20:55
  took off because it's like, well, I don't have anything to
• 20:56
  do, you know, I'm going to go jump around outside and outfit
• 21:00
  in my truck and got the whole Outlander thing or the
• 21:02
  overlander thing going on. Did you lose a job?
• 21:05
  What were you doing employment wise that like allowed you to to
• 21:11
  go off and? I was building hot rods, yeah.
• 21:14
  I. Was building yeah, so before
• 21:16
  before I came up here. So like I was so probably from
• 21:20
  2000 and 2010 is when I really started teaching jiu jitsu.
• 21:30
  That's why I really started teaching jiu jitsu because I
• 21:32
  started doing jiu jitsu in 2007, two thousand and 8:00-ish.
• 21:37
  And that's when I really started teaching in 2010 and then about
• 21:41
  2000 and 12, 2011, 2012 was when I started building hot rods yeah
• 21:49
  and so like I grew up in my dad's motorcycle shop.
• 21:52
  We had a motorcycle shop and so that was like he was colorblind.
• 21:56
  So he was like, hey, what color is this?
• 21:57
  I'm like red, What color is that green?
• 21:58
  What color is that brown? OK, that goes there, that goes
• 22:01
  there, that goes there. Like I knew more about wiring
• 22:04
  than most people did. You know, I was five years old
• 22:06
  and I was helping them wire motorcycles and I knew more
• 22:09
  about nuts and bolts, like thread pitch and diameter and
• 22:13
  all that than most adults did at that time too.
• 22:15
  And then he had free child labor from me.
• 22:17
  I'm still going to get you back, dad.
• 22:19
  So free child labor of him being like, I'm three years old having
• 22:22
  the sweepest, like 3500 square foot shot.
• 22:25
  Oh my. God.
• 22:26
  So, so that was just something that I grew into.
• 22:30
  And so I started to build hot rods before I moved up here.
• 22:32
  And that's what I was doing Southern California.
• 22:34
  And, you know, I had AI, worked at a really cool shop, had my
• 22:38
  own business, won many awards doing that.
• 22:42
  Yeah. Like cars that go to Grand
• 22:43
  National Roadster show so. What's your?
• 22:45
  Favorite car? Favorite car?
• 22:50
  And what favorite car you built? Yeah, let's do that.
• 22:52
  Shit. The one you're most proud of.
• 22:57
  1966 Lincoln Continental convertible 1966 Continental
• 23:03
  convertible. That's classy.
• 23:05
  Yeah. I, it was like 2425 at the time
• 23:09
  when I built that thing. And there is just that was a
• 23:12
  full on. The car showed up, the guy
• 23:14
  dropped it off. He owned a an oil field, an oil
• 23:19
  field, like what's like a coating company.
• 23:22
  So he would coat pipes and all that.
• 23:24
  So he had he had he had a bunch of money.
• 23:26
  And so he showed up with this like ragtag beat up, like 66
• 23:30
  Continental, little suicide doors and beautiful car.
• 23:33
  But when it showed up, it was like Dodger blue had some like
• 23:36
  really chintzy rims on it. And he's like, I want to do, I
• 23:39
  want airbags, I want this, I want that.
• 23:41
  And like completely ripped that thing apart and restored it.
• 23:44
  And, you know, he took it to a few shows and won a bunch of
• 23:47
  awards. And it was just, I spent so much
• 23:50
  time on like aligning the gaps on that thing.
• 23:55
  I spent so much time like learning about like how they did
• 23:59
  the convertible systems in 1966 because it was all off
• 24:02
  hydraulics. It wasn't really electronics too
• 24:04
  much involved. And so there was a lot of time
• 24:06
  that went into it. And that was probably one of my
• 24:08
  favorite cars, yes. That's.
• 24:09
  Cool. Yeah, that's.
• 24:10
  So cool. So 66.
• 24:11
  We're back to getting up here, Covad happened.
• 24:18
  So I mean, there's before like moving, making that change to
• 24:22
  move up here. Like when I was 13, my older
• 24:25
  brother, he moved up here. So I have an older brother
• 24:28
  that's lived up here for about 25 years, Okay.
• 24:30
  Cool. What brought him up here?
• 24:32
  Just there he was. He was like 21 at the time and
• 24:37
  his girlfriend at the time got pregnant and they were living in
• 24:40
  Southern California and his girlfriend's mom lived up here
• 24:44
  and like rent down there at that time.
• 24:46
  Rent down there at that time was like like $1300 for a place.
• 24:50
  So her parent, her parents were. Up here, her parents, it's
• 24:52
  always something. Yeah, you know, some connect
• 24:55
  some family usually or. So my, my brother moved up here
• 25:00
  when I was young and then, so when they had my first niece, my
• 25:06
  mom, my mom and I drove up here, drove up here and was able to
• 25:10
  like, visit. And they lived out in Cave
• 25:12
  Junction at the time. And 20, yeah, I think about 25
• 25:14
  years ago, Cave Junction was like, not much.
• 25:17
  Yeah, not much. Not much more than than the not
• 25:19
  much it is now it's, I mean, it's a beautiful, wonderful
• 25:24
  place. Nothing.
• 25:26
  A little rough. A little rough, yeah.
• 25:29
  It's still a beautiful place. Still it's.
• 25:31
  Still very beautiful, yeah? The environment Spectacular.
• 25:35
  Yeah, but so he moved up here and we just like driving
• 25:38
  through, you know, driving through this.
• 25:41
  I'm like, wow. It was like the first time I was
• 25:43
  actually in the forest, driving through in the forest.
• 25:46
  And I remember my brother taking us out, like taking me out and
• 25:50
  going off roading and, you know, going to the river and hanging
• 25:53
  out and like having, yeah, going out to the illies and, you know,
• 25:57
  and, and experiencing that. And so that was like, wow.
• 26:00
  So when I, you know, we go back to we go back to Southern
• 26:03
  California. Like that place was so cool, you
• 26:05
  know, And then we would come up and visit.
• 26:07
  My mom and I would come up and visit, come up and visit.
• 26:09
  And like every time I come up and visit felt like there's
• 26:11
  piece of me that was stay here that was cool.
• 26:14
  Like the first time going to the Oregon National caves, you know,
• 26:18
  that was rad. I'm like, see, it was, I've
• 26:20
  never been in a cave before like that.
• 26:23
  And so there was a lot of firsts for experiences and it was there
• 26:28
  was just something that would just call me back, call me back.
• 26:30
  And that was like leading up to it.
• 26:33
  And you know, it's like, you know, all the way through COVID,
• 26:36
  still going out and camping and really going like traveling the
• 26:40
  entire the western United States with a, with a, my ex partner
• 26:44
  and you know, going Texas, Washington, Colorado, Arizona,
• 26:49
  Utah, like all those places and like really checking out
• 26:52
  national parks and finding the way off the way off the beaten
• 26:55
  path places away from people where you don't hear anything
• 26:58
  and, and doing that. And so that was like, really, I
• 27:02
  was like, Dang, there's a calling for it.
• 27:04
  I need to be away from people, you know, knowing that the
• 27:07
  further I got away from people, the closer I got to myself.
• 27:10
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's just something that like
• 27:14
  in that silence, silence of nature and just like being out
• 27:19
  there just brought peace, brings that that stillness, that calm
• 27:24
  to you and. It didn't scare you because
• 27:27
  there's there's a lot of people out there who I think are afraid
• 27:31
  of that quiet. They're afraid of finding the
• 27:33
  quiet space within themselves and being away from the noise.
• 27:36
  They need the noise or they think they need the noise to
• 27:39
  thrive or just that's all they know.
• 27:42
  That's what's familiar, and they avoid finding themselves in
• 27:47
  quiet. I think we, I think people are
• 27:49
  just been like kind of conditioned to being in that
• 27:55
  chaos, you know, and that's what they're, they're used to.
• 27:58
  And until you start to remove yourself from that and, and put
• 28:02
  yourself in those, those situations or those, those
• 28:06
  places to where you don't have any of the distractions and you
• 28:09
  don't have the chaos. It's like you really get to know
• 28:12
  yourself, you know, Because I think we've, we as humans have
• 28:15
  gone so far away from like our primal needs or so far away from
• 28:21
  like where we need to be in nature.
• 28:23
  Like it's, we've become so disconnected.
• 28:27
  And that's for me, anytime that I start to feel that where I'm
• 28:30
  like feeling this uneasy feeling or I start to feel anxiety, just
• 28:34
  just going outside and standing in the sun, you know, even if
• 28:38
  I'm still just outside my backyard or something like I
• 28:40
  just going outside and standing in the sun helps.
• 28:42
  But if I can get outside something like this, it helps
• 28:45
  ground me. You know, if you can get your
• 28:46
  feet wet, get your feet dirty, get your hands dirty, something
• 28:49
  that way, like it's just it brings you back and it kind of
• 28:53
  helps, gives you a sense of calm.
• 28:55
  And that's what, like, outdoors for me are being, you know,
• 28:58
  going on a hike, going standing on the riverbank and go fishing
• 29:01
  or even be out in the ocean. Like, that's just it.
• 29:05
  It's settling miles away from everybody else.
• 29:09
  It's just it's comfort. Yeah.
• 29:12
  You know. Just you and you and your
• 29:15
  natural self. Yes, absolutely.
• 29:21
  But if we're going to backtrack and talk about like what?
• 29:25
  Finally brought me up here in January of 24.
• 29:30
  Like there was just like, you know, there's a lot of things
• 29:34
  happening in my life of like not really being happy building cars
• 29:38
  anymore, you know, absolutely loved it.
• 29:41
  But like when it was a hobby turned into a career and then it
• 29:45
  wasn't fun anymore, I wanted to remove like, it just didn't feel
• 29:48
  good, you know, like I enjoyed it, it was fun, but just it
• 29:52
  didn't align with what I was wanting anymore.
• 29:55
  You know, what I really wanted to do was change people, like
• 29:58
  change people's lives, impact them through like martial arts.
• 30:02
  And for me to be able to do that, I couldn't do that back
• 30:04
  home because it was so saturated.
• 30:06
  There was, you know, I didn't want to compete with my
• 30:08
  professor or the person that I grew up doing jiu jitsu with.
• 30:11
  I could have easily opened like an affiliate, an affiliation of
• 30:14
  his school, but I wanted to do it my way.
• 30:17
  I, I saw a different path, you know, and there's nothing wrong
• 30:21
  with what he did, what he was doing, but it was incredibly,
• 30:23
  he's incredibly successful, but there was just some things that
• 30:26
  I wanted to do differently. And so I couldn't do it there.
• 30:31
  You know, I ended a long term relationship with a partner and
• 30:37
  I just got tired of like that hustle and bustle, that hustle
• 30:41
  culture. Making sure I'm keeping you guys
• 30:48
  dry, I appreciate. That I knew that's what you're
• 30:50
  doing. Don't.
• 30:52
  I don't want any surprise splashes, so.
• 30:56
  So it was just, it was one of those things I got tired of
• 30:58
  hustle culture. I got tired of the pricing of
• 31:01
  everything in Southern California.
• 31:04
  And so I had, I had a buddy that was feeling the same way and he
• 31:10
  moved up here and when I was like, where are you moving to?
• 31:13
  And he told me where he was moving.
• 31:15
  And I was like, Oh, my brother lives right outside of that
• 31:17
  because he moved up here to Selma.
• 31:18
  Oh, cool. You know, and I was like, Oh, my
• 31:20
  butt. My, my brother lives in Grants
• 31:21
  Pass. And he's like, oh, and then
• 31:23
  after all this stuff took in place and transpired, I was
• 31:26
  like, you know what? I'm done, you know, I'm done.
• 31:30
  I was like, I sold, I sold my hot rod, you know, I got rid of
• 31:34
  everything that I didn't need. I minimized everything.
• 31:37
  Everything that I kept was just what I wanted to keep.
• 31:41
  I didn't need that. There was a bunch of stuff that
• 31:42
  I didn't need. It's just the things that I was
• 31:44
  like that was important to me, you know, and got rid of
• 31:47
  everything else. So that felt really good.
• 31:48
  It just like shed that weight and I moved up here.
• 31:53
  I just said screw it, I'm going to do it.
• 31:54
  I set a date. It wasn't like one of those
• 31:56
  things where like I'm going to do it this day.
• 31:58
  There's I set a date. That was my exit date.
• 32:01
  I said bye to all my friends that I would, all my students
• 32:03
  that I had down there, all my friends.
• 32:05
  Like massive going away party. That was fun.
• 32:12
  Had a massive going away party. And then like 2 days later I had
• 32:16
  everything in EU Haul. My dad helped me move up here.
• 32:19
  And yeah, I just immersed myself in outdoors.
• 32:23
  I spent the first six months hiking, fishing, crawling around
• 32:27
  in the woods. I started, you know, I, I picked
• 32:30
  up a bow, started out with a, you know, archery and, you know,
• 32:34
  getting crawling out in the woods and trying to archery hunt
• 32:36
  and, and learning to do that. So I put that that right there
• 32:39
  kind of resembles a martial arts for me.
• 32:40
  So that's something else that I like, being outdoors, being here
• 32:45
  that I picked up, learned a new style of fishing and just like
• 32:50
  traveled all over Southern Oregon.
• 32:51
  Next, you can try mountain biking.
• 32:54
  You know what? So I grew up, I grew up so I
• 32:56
  grew up racing BMX. I grew up racing BMX as well.
• 32:58
  I did that and I, I get dumb enough with four wheels
• 33:03
  underneath me. I don't need 2 wheels you know
• 33:07
  and I've already have you know and I can't for me for what I do
• 33:11
  on the daily for teaching jiu Jitsu and and and the boxing and
• 33:14
  the Muay Thai like. You can't risk an injury I.
• 33:16
  Can't risk getting hurt, you know, then I can then then
• 33:19
  because it Emily knows it's like she's come to classes.
• 33:22
  I'm, I'm like the sole coach, you know, So it's like I, I
• 33:25
  don't. Have to go that hard, you end up
• 33:29
  going hard. I know myself like I, I have to,
• 33:33
  I, I, I really have to refrain from doing stupid stuff.
• 33:36
  Oh my God, that looks I could do that.
• 33:38
  Like I remember I'm pushing forward and I don't heal the
• 33:41
  same as 20. You know, right, Saying like the
• 33:43
  same thing people are like, why don't you fight anymore?
• 33:45
  I'm like 40. I remember when I was like a 20
• 33:49
  and I don't want to fight the 20 year old version of me because
• 33:51
  now they're just, they're crazier.
• 33:55
  But so yeah, that was that that jump here was just, I was done
• 33:59
  and immersed myself. And yeah, so I, I stayed out
• 34:04
  there with that buddy with that that buddy for six months.
• 34:07
  But I just got to the point where even I like, I just, I was
• 34:10
  on vacation, right? You'd have to start to do
• 34:13
  something at a point, at a point I was like, you know, so then I
• 34:16
  got a job at Toyota here as one. Yeah, I got a job at Toyota here
• 34:20
  and I was, I was one of their technicians.
• 34:22
  I walked in there, gave my resume and they like pretty much
• 34:25
  hired me on the spot. They just saw like everything.
• 34:27
  And the, the service advisor, he like looked at me and he goes,
• 34:32
  he looked like an MMA fighter. Like I was like, yeah, you can
• 34:36
  kind of tell. He's like, yeah, I can just tell
• 34:37
  because I my son, he was a wrestler.
• 34:39
  So your ears are a little messed up and it's like.
• 34:42
  Thanks. Yeah, cool.
• 34:44
  Profiling. Nice.
• 34:45
  Compliment. Yeah.
• 34:46
  All right. So they pretty much hired me on
• 34:48
  the spot and I worked there for a year and some change.
• 34:53
  But for it was, it was more as a tool to be able to buy my house
• 35:00
  up here and meet people, stay busy, be able to, you know,
• 35:06
  subsidized me, me spending money and not blowing my savings and
• 35:10
  all of that. So it was, that was, it wasn't
• 35:13
  up for longevity, you know? Stepping stone.
• 35:17
  Means to an end. Yeah, it was a means to an end.
• 35:19
  And for me, yeah, emphasis on end, huge end.
• 35:25
  But it got to the point where I was working there and when I was
• 35:28
  talking about like alignment, the, the morals and ethics there
• 35:32
  did not align with who I was as a person and how I did things
• 35:37
  when I was running a business or how I did things when I was
• 35:40
  working on cars or building cars.
• 35:42
  So that did not align me whatsoever.
• 35:44
  And I had a lot of disagreements with people there.
• 35:51
  And I was always a squeaky wheeled, like that's a little
• 35:55
  little suspect. I don't think that's safe.
• 35:57
  I don't think that's you should be doing that.
• 35:59
  It's not ethical. Definitely not.
• 36:02
  And I don't really care if they hear this.
• 36:05
  My husbands best friend worked at Toyota for many years and he
• 36:10
  said similar, similar things and he had he he left or what
• 36:14
  happened was he wanted to leave and then they gave him a raise
• 36:16
  and then the next week he came in and they let him go.
• 36:19
  It was Luke. Luke Conrad.
• 36:20
  Oh, I know Luke. Yeah, I actually like Luke.
• 36:22
  So that. OK, so I'm sure he spent a lot
• 36:24
  of time at the bike store. Yeah, yeah, because he was.
• 36:26
  Yeah, he. I actually like Luke.
• 36:27
  And then I can just tell like when he was.
• 36:29
  You can see, you can see it like.
• 36:32
  Luke's so intelligent too. It's like.
• 36:34
  I know that he was getting rubbed there.
• 36:37
  You can tell when he was, when he was upset, you know, But The
• 36:40
  thing is, he wore it on his face.
• 36:41
  I was the same way. Yeah, but everybody in there
• 36:44
  was, they were deathly afraid of me, you know, they were like,
• 36:49
  oh, shit, Jesse's pissed off. Like, I'm like, but I'm one of
• 36:51
  the nicest people. Like seriously, I don't, I don't
• 36:54
  want to fight. I don't want to get, you know,
• 36:56
  like, just because I'm capable of extreme violence doesn't mean
• 36:59
  I'm going to reason like. Just as I can kill you with one
• 37:02
  touch. Yeah, it's like one of my, one
• 37:08
  of my coaches, he's like, man, if you're going to learn to hurt
• 37:10
  as much as you do, you got to learn to heal as much as you do.
• 37:13
  And that was something that has stuck with me ever since I heard
• 37:17
  that because I, I, I have learned to hurt, you know, But
• 37:21
  through that hurt, I've also learned to heal.
• 37:23
  And not just like ex, you know, externally, but internally as
• 37:27
  well. That's something that martial
• 37:28
  arts has provided me is that internal healing.
• 37:31
  And I think I was telling you about it like I got to a certain
• 37:33
  point where I was fighting and it just, I didn't feel like I
• 37:38
  had to fight anymore because I wasn't fighting other people
• 37:41
  with most of the time that I was fighting.
• 37:42
  I was fighting something inside of me, you know, and.
• 37:46
  Did you figure out what that was?
• 37:48
  Yeah, about childhood trauma. I had a huge amount of childhood
• 37:53
  trauma. There was like resentment
• 37:54
  because like my life was super hard and I didn't get like the
• 37:57
  same, the the same opportunities as other kids did or, you know,
• 38:02
  growing up poor or, you know, like living in hotels and all
• 38:08
  this other stuff that I went through in my life.
• 38:10
  Like it that shaped me for who I am sitting here now like that.
• 38:15
  It's it's there. There was a lot of trauma that I
• 38:19
  was carrying that like I got to like exert through through
• 38:24
  extreme violence, which is, which is this sounds really bad.
• 38:28
  And it could, it could totally put like paint a bad picture of
• 38:31
  somebody. But like, for me, that was
• 38:33
  healing. Yeah, I was able to get it out.
• 38:35
  Anger needs a place to go. That's what my son needs.
• 38:37
  My son's really angry. That's why I'm like really
• 38:39
  excited that he's in. Like he wants to do jujitsu.
• 38:42
  Yes, he did the wrestling club too beautiful and he did great.
• 38:46
  But I'm just saying like I'm hoping that he really gets into
• 38:50
  it and like I would love for him to get obsessed with it because
• 38:53
  he needs to put his emotion somewhere.
• 38:57
  Right. Yeah, we can't.
• 38:58
  We can't keep them inside of us. Yeah, they will.
• 39:02
  It'll be like a volcano. And that's why I think that's
• 39:05
  what that was going on, you know, and so for me to be able
• 39:08
  to have that outlet and do that it.
• 39:12
  In a Safeway. In a Safeway, yeah, it was it.
• 39:14
  I mean safe ish. Control controlled violence.
• 39:18
  Yeah, controlled. But it was, you know, that was,
• 39:21
  it was something beautiful about it.
• 39:23
  And you know, for me, for me to be able to do that, it was, you
• 39:27
  know, they'd have those experiences and like share those
• 39:30
  with other other people during that time.
• 39:32
  Like that was just, that was something that was incredible,
• 39:36
  incredibly healing. Sure, let's put a pause just
• 39:39
  while the search. Your motor goes by.
• 39:43
  Search and res. We can go by them faster than
• 39:46
  they're going to go by us. Hi.
• 40:01
  Their job doesn't suck when they're just out running fun
• 40:04
  patrols. They just run back and forth on
• 40:07
  different stretches of river for like hours.
• 40:12
  We've seen them other days that we've put in on different
• 40:14
  stretches. They're just going back and
• 40:15
  forth and back and forth and back and forth.
• 40:17
  Yeah. I'm like, are they just doing
• 40:19
  like training or are they just maybe?
• 40:22
  Yes. I'm both, yeah, probably a
• 40:24
  little bit of everything. So they're like, man, you know?
• 40:27
  They're, they're on my list of people to reach out to, to get
• 40:29
  on the pod because I want to know more about their, their
• 40:32
  training protocols and, and just what it's like to do water
• 40:36
  search and rescue on the river. Yeah.
• 40:39
  They're probably just getting to know the river, like, so when
• 40:41
  people are like, oh, they put wit, you know, we got to look
• 40:43
  for somebody at this spot. They're like, I know exactly
• 40:45
  where that's at. Yeah, at different water levels
• 40:48
  and different access points. How how it's flowing?
• 40:51
  It's like, that was one of the things for like when I would go
• 40:55
  fish and the lake would get so low, my dad and I would go out
• 40:58
  and we'd scout and we'd take pictures of structure and where
• 41:00
  it would be and like flat spots. And then when it would actually
• 41:03
  start to raise back up, we'd be like, we're going to go fish
• 41:06
  there, you know? So it's like, sorry, they could
• 41:08
  potentially be doing the same thing.
• 41:09
  Like, OK, there's huge rocks there.
• 41:11
  If like if something were to happen there could be a stop
• 41:14
  there for body or I don't. Know, yeah, they're looking for
• 41:17
  strainers, they're looking for logs in the river, they're
• 41:21
  looking for rocks. Looking at how things shifted
• 41:25
  flow at different levels. Put your faces in the sun.
• 41:28
  I I. Yes.
• 41:31
  Oh, for a moment. OK, so yeah, so you were you
• 41:37
  were fighting off demons in a safe, controlled way.
• 41:42
  Yes. And and moving that anger
• 41:44
  through your body and then you found a point where just it just
• 41:50
  went away or. Yeah, that's what it was just
• 41:52
  one of those things where you just.
• 41:53
  Like you embraced them. I, I embraced them.
• 41:55
  I, I, I figured out like what it was.
• 42:01
  Oh my gosh. Social.
• 42:02
  Yes. Heather has a great sunglasses
• 42:04
  collection. I have, I have two pairs of
• 42:07
  sunglasses. I have one that I would normally
• 42:09
  wear if I'm driving and then I have other ones where I'd be
• 42:11
  wearing like just cut the glare off the water.
• 42:16
  Shout out to Costa. All right to Costa, Costa.
• 42:20
  Oh, OK. Because we're Heather and I are
• 42:23
  wearing matching Costco fleeces. So we're we did a Costco
• 42:26
  Costco's. Were rad.
• 42:29
  Some of my favorite pairs of pants that I have from Costco.
• 42:31
  Yep, I think that the pants I'm wearing are from Costco and my
• 42:35
  boots are from Costco. Yeah, they're Pendleton boots
• 42:39
  from Costco. Score, right.
• 42:41
  Score. Yeah, yes.
• 42:43
  But yeah, so like that was just going back to like, if I've
• 42:46
  learned to hurt, I have to learn to heal.
• 42:47
  And through what I was doing in the martial arts, I've learned
• 42:50
  to heal. There's a part of me that was
• 42:51
  healing that I found, you know, for me to be able to like share
• 42:55
  that with somebody and be able to share that what I was able to
• 42:59
  get from it. That was like my, the whole
• 43:03
  meaning behind, you know, opening the school, you know,
• 43:06
  being able to do that. And that's like I was saying, I
• 43:09
  moved up here because I wanted to open a school.
• 43:13
  I wanted to be able to be that that systemic change that was
• 43:17
  going to ripple outwards, to be able to like create the change
• 43:20
  in the community that I wanted to see.
• 43:22
  And that you got to experience yourself.
• 43:25
  Yes, that I experienced. I'm just like, I'm just a
• 43:32
  chronic mic adjuster. All right, maybe it's hopefully
• 43:35
  it sounds better. Well, yeah, just so that it's
• 43:37
  pointed at you. Instead of me going away from it
• 43:40
  makes sense. But yeah, I wanted to be able to
• 43:44
  give that back to a community. And like, I'm like this from
• 43:50
  coming over, coming up here over the years, I can see that this
• 43:54
  place is in need. You know, this place is in need
• 43:57
  of that because there's there's young kids around here that just
• 44:00
  they look lost. You know, they're they're
• 44:02
  definitely lost. Like you're saying, your son has
• 44:04
  a lot of anger, you know, and there's he's not the only one,
• 44:09
  you know, and so there's. And the outlets that they have,
• 44:13
  like other sports, soccer or baseball, like it's a different
• 44:18
  kind of, it's not really self-expression.
• 44:22
  No, there's, there's, you know, that self-expression you talk
• 44:26
  of, There's like that's the, the arts part of martial arts.
• 44:29
  You know, you get to be creative, you get to problem
• 44:31
  solve, you know, you get to like build a foundation of your own
• 44:37
  through that to like really develop your own, your own
• 44:43
  personality. And you can express that through
• 44:46
  martial arts. And to be able to have that like
• 44:50
  it for me, I can, I can, I can say it's like living proof, you
• 44:53
  know, because I was a total piece of shit.
• 44:56
  Like, you know, like at like 1820 years old, I wasn't, you
• 45:02
  know, definitely wasn't the person that's sitting here, you
• 45:05
  know, and that's just being able to have that outlet has been
• 45:09
  able to create that change within myself.
• 45:10
  And it's like I can share that with somebody else.
• 45:12
  And if I can just do one person, I've done my job.
• 45:16
  But if I can do it on a grand scale, which I'm working for
• 45:18
  right now, then it's, it's, it's even better, you know, And so
• 45:22
  it's like there's even more than that that I have planned in the
• 45:25
  future. That's, you know, like
• 45:27
  especially in the near future that I want to do besides just
• 45:30
  having my martial arts Academy, you know, I'm like wanting to do
• 45:35
  like retreats like Jiu Jitsu retreats that are like martial
• 45:37
  arts Incorporated, but have like outdoors, like rafting, mountain
• 45:41
  biking, archery, hiking, camping, tenderfoot retreats for
• 45:45
  people that have just been inside cities and inside locked
• 45:48
  doors in front of their computer for most of their lives that
• 45:50
  have never even like learned how to start a fire.
• 45:52
  You know, be able to get them outdoors and be like, hey, teach
• 45:55
  them some basic survival skills and be like, hey, go figure it
• 45:57
  out for a night. Go build some structure.
• 46:00
  Go build some. Go build some, you know,
• 46:04
  structure like a little Fort. Go build a Fort.
• 46:09
  Yes, Yeah, there we go. The.
• 46:10
  Formal word, yeah. Go build a Fort.
• 46:12
  Go Fort. Go build a Fort.
• 46:14
  Who do you, who do you think you'd be now if you hadn't found
• 46:17
  martial arts? Like, where do you?
• 46:20
  Where do you think you'd be in life?
• 46:22
  Have you ever kind of looked back on?
• 46:25
  That well, in all honesty, I'd I'd probably end up dead.
• 46:29
  Seriously. I've there's, you know, there's
• 46:32
  a lot of times I was partying a lot, you know, there was
• 46:35
  definitely drug addiction, you know, and like Full disclosure,
• 46:39
  like I, I was on a path to self destruction and like it just
• 46:46
  wasn't a pre look, it wasn't a good look.
• 46:49
  It was, I mean, it's 100% raw and vulnerable, but like.
• 46:53
  That's what we go for here. Yeah, 100.
• 46:55
  Percent raw and vulnerable, but it's just like if I didn't have
• 46:59
  this as an outlet or martial arts as an outlet or even like
• 47:02
  being outside or outdoors as an outlet, then I I'd probably
• 47:08
  probably be dead, you know? Yeah, yeah, it's I can see your
• 47:13
  lip ring scar. Oh yeah, there's, there was,
• 47:19
  there was definitely a, a, a cry for trying to find my, my
• 47:23
  individualism in my, my mid teenage years.
• 47:27
  There was like, they're actually all the way across, you know,
• 47:30
  and you know, like I told you, there's different colored hair,
• 47:32
  you know, like raves and partying.
• 47:35
  And it was just, you know, that was all fun and all experience
• 47:38
  and I wouldn't change any of it. But like, I don't want to say it
• 47:42
  was wasted, but it could have been redirected in a different
• 47:45
  manner. But then again, like, I wouldn't
• 47:48
  be the person that I am today if I didn't experience that.
• 47:51
  Yeah, I needed that. And through the martial arts
• 47:54
  I've been able to. Harness the.
• 47:56
  Harness. Yeah, exactly.
• 47:57
  Harness and and and change that. My question is, what was that
• 48:02
  like? What got you?
• 48:04
  Because if you were like partying and kind of deep in a
• 48:06
  hole of in in a sense, what kind of sparked your even want or
• 48:10
  need to get like get going with martial arts?
• 48:14
  Like what was what was that like turning point that was like, I'm
• 48:19
  going to go to this class today. It was like, like after high
• 48:23
  school, that was like partying and getting in trouble, getting
• 48:26
  in street fights and all that. That's when my dad put me in
• 48:29
  that like men's club, who introduced me to that men's club
• 48:31
  and that's was that. And then I was like.
• 48:33
  He saw a propensity to fight and said I can do something with
• 48:37
  this. It felt good and it was
• 48:39
  everybody else saying that I can do something with it.
• 48:41
  It was just something that felt good for me in the moment.
• 48:43
  It was one of those it was like indulgence at that time.
• 48:47
  I'm like, oh, I love this. I can fight and this gives me
• 48:49
  that another endorphin or another dopamine release.
• 48:52
  You know, I'm like, oh, I can do this, chase that.
• 48:54
  And and I didn't know why I was chasing all of that and doing
• 48:58
  the things that I was doing and making the decisions I was
• 49:00
  making. It was because like, I didn't
• 49:02
  understand what was going on internally, you know?
• 49:06
  And it was that moment of when you're looking like that moment
• 49:11
  of clarity, it was like, like, it was just like that first time
• 49:18
  going into the gym and being accepted by other people with
• 49:22
  other people that had very similar trauma as I did.
• 49:25
  They were fighting for something.
• 49:26
  And that's one of those things that I think about like
• 49:28
  everybody's a fighter. You know, some people do it
• 49:31
  physically, some people do it get up every day and have to go
• 49:33
  to work every day. But everybody has that ability
• 49:36
  to fight. But like you have to choose what
• 49:39
  you're fighting for, who you're fighting for.
• 49:40
  You have to choose your why, you know, And so it's like everybody
• 49:43
  has that ability. But like, we see it off more
• 49:46
  often than not. Like people are just so
• 49:48
  complacent and being able to be like, kick your feet up and want
• 49:52
  to just turn the like turn the channel.
• 49:54
  And that's they're like, they're they're complacent.
• 49:56
  That's how they live. And I think, you know, if that
• 50:00
  that's OK, if that's what you want to do, but like there's so
• 50:05
  much more to life than just complacency because that that
• 50:08
  kills. I'm not waiting to die, you
• 50:10
  know, and I just, I want a better life.
• 50:16
  I'd see more for myself. I have seen more for myself.
• 50:20
  And I know the direction that I'm heading is it's, it's a,
• 50:27
  it's the right path, it's the right way, you know, because if
• 50:31
  I think about like the opposite, the opposite ends of the
• 50:34
  spectrum of where I was at and where I'm at now, like that's no
• 50:38
  longer. OK, cute dramatic cut here.
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  Over the edge of the boat and just like lay there and just
• 51:24
  watch the rocks float by. Sorry guys, we just had a
• 51:27
  battery break. We switched out a battery real
• 51:30
  quick and we're back on Remember Your Spot.
• 51:36
  I don't, even though it's a fast battery.
• 51:39
  Sorry, I don't remember my spot. You're talking to a blonde like
• 51:42
  it runs deep. Yeah, yeah.
• 51:44
  No offense to other blondes out there, but it runs.
• 51:46
  Deep, both of you? Yeah.
• 51:48
  My blonde, really blonde sometimes.
• 51:50
  It was something about something about your life changing and not
• 51:56
  being who you were. Yeah, the the, the the opposite
• 51:59
  ends of like where I was at in my life to where that change
• 52:03
  created to where I'm at now. Like going through that
• 52:06
  transition was definitely rocky. And there was still, you know,
• 52:10
  I, I was still had faults and I still made bad decisions.
• 52:14
  But there just came to a point during that process that I got
• 52:21
  tired of the look of disappointment in people's eyes
• 52:24
  when they looked at me because everybody's like, hey, you're so
• 52:27
  talented. You have so much to offer.
• 52:28
  You're you're so good at what you do.
• 52:31
  And I'm just like, there wasn't any self belief in that.
• 52:35
  And then finally I just got tired of that.
• 52:37
  And it was just like, there was something that just like went
• 52:40
  off in the switch and it was just, you know what?
• 52:42
  I don't need to do that anymore. I, I am a good person, You know,
• 52:47
  that whole thought of like, I am, you know, I am great, I am
• 52:51
  successful, I am worthy, I am deserving.
• 52:54
  Like that whole mentality shift was something that I, that
• 52:58
  experience that I went through and I was just like, I don't
• 53:01
  need to continue to live a hellish life and made that
• 53:06
  change for myself. Choosing to affirm yourself.
• 53:08
  Yeah, exactly. Choosing to affirm myself and
• 53:11
  choosing and choosing to love myself more than anything.
• 53:14
  And that's where that that's when I was like, oh, and then it
• 53:17
  was just like, it was almost night and day, you know, night
• 53:20
  and day. And it's like, you know, we
• 53:21
  still struggle with that. You know, we still have those
• 53:23
  moments where we're like, self doubt creeps in a little bit and
• 53:26
  you're like, oh shit. It's a practice.
• 53:28
  Sorry to interrupt guys. Epic tree house.
• 53:30
  Notice that Epic. Tree house.
• 53:32
  Yeah, there's a viral there's like 3 or 4 pretty epic tree
• 53:35
  houses along the town stretch. There's a whole, I remember when
• 53:39
  I was looking for my house, there was a whole like tree
• 53:42
  house commune type thing that was for sale in Cave Junction.
• 53:47
  There are like 6 different tree houses.
• 53:49
  I'm like wow, this is rad. Because you know like moving
• 53:52
  forward I want to my next step while being up here is I want, I
• 53:55
  want a piece of land that I could throw yurts on and like a
• 53:59
  big warehouse. So that way I could do like the
• 54:01
  jiu jitsu retreats. Oh, I know somebody that can
• 54:03
  help you find that. I think I've had a slight talk
• 54:06
  with her already. Yeah, I've had a minor talk with
• 54:10
  her. But yeah, so I mean, like we've
• 54:12
  had this, I've had this whole transformation process and it's
• 54:15
  like, you know, I I don't want to make this whole thing just
• 54:18
  about like martial arts and, and all of this, it's like.
• 54:22
  Well-rounded. Situation.
• 54:23
  Yeah. So it's like we, we, you know,
• 54:25
  we come back to this whole like this, this healing process and
• 54:30
  you know, yes, martial arts is a very huge aspect for it for me,
• 54:35
  very like one of the main vehicles that has helped drive
• 54:39
  that change in me. But like, this is also another
• 54:42
  one where I find peace. We talk about that stillness or
• 54:45
  that calming or that grounding sense like this is being
• 54:49
  outdoors, being on the river next to the river on a mountain
• 54:53
  miles away from everybody. It's like now we're talking
• 54:56
  about we're talking about that silence and getting away from
• 54:58
  the chaos before is like enjoyment.
• 55:00
  But I couldn't, couldn't quite get to escape that loudness in
• 55:05
  my head, right, You know, And now I'm out of.
• 55:08
  That like negative self talk and doubt and.
• 55:11
  Yeah, or that turning things off of being like, oh, I got this to
• 55:15
  do and I have taxes or I have to pay this bill or, you know, all
• 55:19
  like the just the adult stuff too.
• 55:21
  And besides the negative self talk and all that, just like
• 55:23
  compiled together. And I couldn't sit with that.
• 55:27
  So I didn't go out doors as much, you know, but it was
• 55:30
  something that I'm passionate for.
• 55:31
  But now, like, I welcome that because I can sit there and
• 55:36
  remove myself from the conversations I'm having in my
• 55:39
  head and actually like process those.
• 55:42
  I think they call it like metacognition or something like
• 55:44
  that, or omnipresence, something that I can't remember.
• 55:47
  It was one of those two words. But you can sit there and
• 55:51
  actually sit with your thoughts and critically and objectively
• 55:58
  like have a conversation with yourself about what's going on
• 56:01
  in your head and have that presence of mind to be able to
• 56:05
  like, OK, why? Why am I thinking this way?
• 56:07
  You know? And so as I've learned to do
• 56:09
  that, like I'm OK with being outdoors.
• 56:12
  I want to, I, I welcome it because it's like now I get to
• 56:15
  be outside. If I'm trying to process
• 56:17
  something, I go outside, put a fishing pole in my hand, put the
• 56:20
  hiking boots on or whatever and just go disappear for a few
• 56:23
  hours and disconnect, you know? Disconnect to reconnect.
• 56:26
  Exactly. That's it's.
• 56:29
  I know people just don't like you got to disconnect to
• 56:31
  reconnect. It's such AI feel like the
• 56:33
  outdoors is like a puzzle piece to like, you know, the nature is
• 56:37
  a nature should be a puzzle piece in everybody's life
• 56:40
  because of that what you just said, like for me just rounding
• 56:45
  it all in like. Sorry.
• 56:47
  The puzzle I'm like in here puzzle piece like for me, I've
• 56:52
  been being I've been I mean, I'm out here quite frequently, but
• 56:59
  the martial arts have has been calling my name for my anger
• 57:03
  release because I battle with anger and I'm like, Oh, I feel
• 57:07
  like that would be such a good outlet for my anger because it's
• 57:10
  not really something that nature.
• 57:13
  It doesn't click that box like I think that would.
• 57:18
  Does that make sense? Yeah, I, when I was in Portugal,
• 57:21
  I was trying to express some anger and I was by myself and
• 57:27
  all I could think to do was hit a tree with a stick.
• 57:32
  And like then the stick broke and I was like, but I still, I
• 57:35
  still have something I need to get out and I don't have a way
• 57:39
  to get it out. And like, running hasn't done it
• 57:42
  for me, weightlifting hasn't done it for me, yoga hasn't done
• 57:46
  it for me and rafting hasn't done it for me.
• 57:49
  Those are all like very peace and slow driven.
• 57:55
  And I mean, I've only been going to your studio for like 2-3
• 58:01
  weeks. But already I can feel a shift
• 58:03
  in me in how I'm holding on to things that I've felt a lot of
• 58:09
  anger around for a long time and I've had no control over and
• 58:13
  have otherwise been telling myself I just have to like let
• 58:16
  it go. But I don't have a way to just
• 58:18
  let it go. Journaling about it doesn't
• 58:20
  help. Breathing about it doesn't help.
• 58:22
  Like I needed a physical expression to And I love I'm
• 58:28
  somatically move it through. And SOMA is the acronym of your
• 58:33
  business. And whoa, it's all coming
• 58:34
  together. Right.
• 58:36
  And isn't it a serendipitous thing to where you're feeling
• 58:38
  like you're like, I need this outlet.
• 58:40
  No, hi, I'm here. It's your sign.
• 58:43
  And I literally, I just walked by one day and saw your sign and
• 58:47
  was like, that's what I need. That's that's what's been
• 58:50
  missing and in my physical expressions.
• 58:55
  And I was really afraid of it for a long time.
• 58:57
  Like I was honestly really afraid of like getting hit in
• 59:00
  the face and. I have that fear.
• 59:02
  Now I've been getting gently hit in the face and it's fine.
• 59:05
  Yeah, it's. As long as my glasses are off
• 59:07
  it's fine. Yeah, I just make sure, you
• 59:09
  know, obviously you've come and then you can see, you know, that
• 59:11
  it's safe. It's a safe place.
• 59:13
  There's no I can I weeded out anybody that has ego or anger or
• 59:20
  we have checked that at the door really quickly to make sure that
• 59:25
  this is, you know, that it's a safe space for people, because
• 59:29
  that is one of that's like one of my main concerns when it
• 59:35
  comes to that is making sure that people want to come back.
• 59:43
  You know, and if it's like, if you have a bad experience that
• 59:47
  and you don't want to come back and it's like you don't get the
• 59:50
  chance to like release whatever it is that you're there for,
• 59:56
  because everybody that's that everybody that's there,
• 59:58
  everybody that's in in in my studio in the Academy that like
• 1:00:03
  I got to go back to that whole thing.
• 1:00:04
  Everybody's a fighter, but it's like everybody's there fighting
• 1:00:07
  for something different, whether they're fighting to lose weight,
• 1:00:11
  fighting for self-confidence. Fighting their trauma like
• 1:00:16
  everybody has their own personal fight.
• 1:00:18
  And I want to make sure that like when people are there that
• 1:00:21
  they get to express themselves to the point to where they, they
• 1:00:26
  have that outlet and they they get what they want out of it.
• 1:00:30
  They get what they're searching for, you know, and, and, and
• 1:00:34
  like, here's the you're, you're spot on.
• 1:00:36
  When you hit it, you're like, it's somatic therapy, you know,
• 1:00:39
  like there's somatic dance there.
• 1:00:41
  You know, there's like you said, there's yoga, there's all this
• 1:00:44
  other stuff that you do, but there's just something that is
• 1:00:46
  so do we. Are we stuck?
• 1:00:50
  No. We're surfing.
• 1:00:52
  Oh, surfing. I miss surfing, but there's just
• 1:00:56
  something about being able to move your body and hit and punch
• 1:01:02
  and kick and choke and all of that that is choke.
• 1:01:06
  And choke and get choked. And get choked and have that
• 1:01:10
  healing aspect about it. And it's just it's it's so free
• 1:01:16
  and releasing, you know, and I you know, people are like, I
• 1:01:20
  don't want to just sound like I'm drinking.
• 1:01:21
  I'm making people drink the Kool-aid or it's pulty, but like
• 1:01:25
  it's when people actually get a chance to do it and they and
• 1:01:27
  they and they're actually like freely allow themselves to do
• 1:01:32
  it. And then it it's the healing,
• 1:01:35
  the healing process, the the healing capabilities of these,
• 1:01:38
  you know, that is all that is all part of it.
• 1:01:40
  That's a by product and it's just.
• 1:01:43
  It's pretty easy to buy into after like 1 positive experience
• 1:01:48
  that feels safe and supportive and inclusive and nobody is
• 1:01:53
  looking at you funny, nobody's laughing at you, nobody's
• 1:01:55
  judging you. Everybody's like hey how you
• 1:01:58
  doing? Thanks for being here.
• 1:01:59
  Yes. Cool.
• 1:02:01
  Yeah, it's and, and that's what I talk about.
• 1:02:05
  Like when when I talk about culture too, we're having a
• 1:02:07
  conversation before we started. That culture is something that
• 1:02:11
  is very big for me. That's something that I learned
• 1:02:14
  is like when you walk through the doors of of a place like a
• 1:02:19
  martial arts Academy, it's already nerve wracking as it is.
• 1:02:22
  It's. So.
• 1:02:23
  Intimidating. It's very intimidating.
• 1:02:25
  So when you walk through those doors, it's like, oh shit, like
• 1:02:29
  it. What is this going to be like,
• 1:02:32
  You know, and nine times out of 10, I know everybody's names
• 1:02:34
  before they even walk through the door.
• 1:02:36
  And I'm like, hey, what's going on, Emily?
• 1:02:37
  And you're like. Oh, you remember.
• 1:02:39
  Yeah, I remember. And and that's, that's that's
• 1:02:41
  huge for me is like, I want to know people's names.
• 1:02:43
  I want to get to know them personally because it's like if
• 1:02:47
  I can build a relationship with people that this, that that
• 1:02:50
  helps me as an instructor to be able to, to achieve their goals,
• 1:02:55
  to be able to achieve whatever it is that they're looking for.
• 1:02:57
  And so it's like you have to be a personable person.
• 1:02:59
  Like it's not just like, OK, now I have the money, I'm going to
• 1:03:02
  teach a class. All right, have a good day.
• 1:03:03
  No, it's like this is this is a healing for people.
• 1:03:07
  Yeah, that's exactly just that. That is exactly why I like what
• 1:03:13
  I'm bringing into real estate. Actually.
• 1:03:16
  It's like I want to make that personal connection with
• 1:03:18
  somebody. I don't just want to run them
• 1:03:21
  through the system and oh, OK, well, have a nice day.
• 1:03:24
  Like you got your place and I'm off on my way.
• 1:03:27
  It's like, no, like you're coming, you're, you're invited,
• 1:03:31
  like. We're friends now.
• 1:03:32
  Yeah, yeah, You, we, you're helping somebody move forward in
• 1:03:36
  their dream, somebody move forward in their life.
• 1:03:38
  But I feel like towards their own self actualization but.
• 1:03:41
  You have to make a personal connection with somebody so you
• 1:03:44
  really understand. I don't know.
• 1:03:46
  That's just what my experience has been already.
• 1:03:48
  Like I said, it's new, but like to really know what place is
• 1:03:53
  going to resonate like I've I've had to get to know people on a
• 1:03:57
  deeper level truly to know. Do I need to be, I don't know,
• 1:04:02
  more an advocate for them in this certain aspect or do they
• 1:04:05
  need me to walk through? I don't know.
• 1:04:08
  It's just that resonates so highly with like career and like
• 1:04:11
  what a great marketing. I mean, it's not, it's your
• 1:04:16
  authentic self and I feel like it's my authentic self too.
• 1:04:19
  But through that comes this like natural form of marketing for
• 1:04:23
  your business that you're creating.
• 1:04:24
  And you know, no, we're podcasting.
• 1:04:29
  So I guess we're casting something.
• 1:04:31
  Yeah, we're not casting rods, we're casting.
• 1:04:34
  Pods. Pods.
• 1:04:37
  We're not casting rods, we're casting pods.
• 1:04:40
  Hilarious. No, no.
• 1:04:43
  Haven't even seen any jump. Yeah, darn.
• 1:04:47
  Yeah. You too.
• 1:04:50
  Have a good one, he said. OK, he's happy.
• 1:04:54
  He's he's so happy. You know, he's got a rod in his
• 1:04:56
  hand. He's standing on this beautiful
• 1:04:57
  day it. Doesn't matter if he catches
• 1:04:59
  anything, he's out here. That that that old time saying,
• 1:05:02
  you know, bad day of fishing is a better than a good day at
• 1:05:05
  work. Yeah, you know that's real.
• 1:05:07
  They call, they call it fishing, not catching.
• 1:05:09
  Yeah. I mean, I've had plenty of
• 1:05:11
  trips, you know, where I said it's been nothing but catching,
• 1:05:14
  and then I've had plenty of trips where it's nothing but
• 1:05:16
  fishing and it's still just as good as catching.
• 1:05:18
  Yeah, you know. You're still outside.
• 1:05:20
  You're still in fresh air. You're still quiet.
• 1:05:23
  But yeah, you go back to that marketing thing.
• 1:05:25
  It's just like, if you're a good person, yeah, if you're a good
• 1:05:27
  person, you you're, you're going.
• 1:05:30
  To be successful. Yeah, your integrity is.
• 1:05:33
  Authentically going about life you could be successful yes and
• 1:05:36
  you're. You're leading with integrity of
• 1:05:38
  honesty and honesty with yourself, honesty with the
• 1:05:41
  people around you. You're you're reliable and
• 1:05:45
  dependable. You do what you say you're going
• 1:05:46
  to do that's. Huge.
• 1:05:47
  That's the integral part. I was, I was raised around some
• 1:05:51
  really, some really good men that like with you, your
• 1:05:55
  integrity is what matters the most.
• 1:05:57
  So you're going to say what you're going to do or you do
• 1:06:00
  what you're going to say. You you do what you say.
• 1:06:04
  Yes. There we go.
• 1:06:05
  Both all of the above. All of it D but like if you say
• 1:06:09
  you're going to do something, you're going to tell some people
• 1:06:11
  that you're going to do it, go do it because that's that's that
• 1:06:15
  you know that that's that differentiates the walkers and
• 1:06:17
  the talkers. You know, you got to walk your
• 1:06:19
  you got to walk your walk. You're going to talk your talk.
• 1:06:21
  Like which one's it going to be? And, you know, that was just
• 1:06:25
  something that's always been part of my life is like, if I
• 1:06:27
  say I'm going to do something, I'm doing it.
• 1:06:29
  You know, it's like, it's just, that's just it.
• 1:06:33
  But like, so for me to be where I'm at now and have people come
• 1:06:37
  through the doors just like Emily, just like you're gonna
• 1:06:40
  do. Yes, yes.
• 1:06:43
  So I'm like, I'm called like this is an alignment.
• 1:06:46
  This whole situation I'm like I need to well it was all
• 1:06:49
  alignment like meeting Victor or not meeting Victor.
• 1:06:51
  But knowing Victor. But knowing Victor and he
• 1:06:53
  brought it up, Emily just brought it up.
• 1:06:55
  And I told Victor I was like, oh, my, my best, one of my best
• 1:06:57
  friends just started going like, oh, another sign.
• 1:06:59
  I need to get going on it. And I saw Victor this morning
• 1:07:01
  too, because he's trying to bring his son.
• 1:07:03
  And it was, it was so cool. I haven't told B this yet, but
• 1:07:07
  when I came into class last week or whatever, and B was there,
• 1:07:09
  she was the second person that I met who like inspired me to
• 1:07:14
  join. And I met her one time at a
• 1:07:16
  mutual friend's birthday brunch. She told me that she did Muy
• 1:07:20
  Thai. And I was like you, you
• 1:07:24
  gorgeous, petite young woman, do Muay Thai.
• 1:07:27
  I've thought about this. If you if you can do it, I can
• 1:07:31
  totally do it. Just just wait until you come to
• 1:07:34
  our self-defense program. On, on.
• 1:07:36
  Yeah, I'm so excited. Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  You're, you're, you're going to meet, you're going to meet an
• 1:07:40
  incredible human who runs that whole thing, you know, and she's
• 1:07:44
  a world champion. Like she's a badass.
• 1:07:47
  Yeah, yeah, I have been following her on Instagram for a
• 1:07:49
  little while since since Grapple Town opened.
• 1:07:51
  And so, yeah, I'm. Yeah, she's very.
• 1:07:54
  Excited. Very incredible person.
• 1:07:57
  So yeah, just wait till you, you, you want to talk about
• 1:07:59
  inspiration and being like, wait, you really?
• 1:08:02
  Even though yeah, she's a badass.
• 1:08:03
  Yeah, yeah. So that is, that is apparent
• 1:08:06
  for. Sure, but he's just just like
• 1:08:09
  all this into alignment and and then I was just like I'm like
• 1:08:12
  now I'm outside now I'm like, well shit, you know, it's been a
• 1:08:17
  while since I've actually been able to go outside just because
• 1:08:19
  of opening the Academy. I was telling him like I haven't
• 1:08:21
  fished in like 6 months. Oh, I feel that too.
• 1:08:24
  Yeah, that little yeah. Like I'm fished in six months I
• 1:08:26
  haven't done, you know, the things that like when I'm doing
• 1:08:29
  these things, it makes me feel more like me.
• 1:08:32
  And, you know, I've gotten away from that just because of, you
• 1:08:35
  know, like you got. Hustle for a minute.
• 1:08:36
  You got to put in the work for a minute, yes.
• 1:08:39
  And then you can kind of try to, you know, get your schedule
• 1:08:41
  dialed back in and put put those things that you love back in.
• 1:08:44
  That's what we were talking about this morning is, you know,
• 1:08:46
  I, I need to make the time you need to make whether it's an
• 1:08:49
  hour or a whole day of doing it. And it's just that, making the
• 1:08:54
  time to be able to get outside just so that way I can listen to
• 1:08:57
  the loud thoughts again. Because even if it's, even if it
• 1:09:00
  is just an hour, the amount of time that you get back in
• 1:09:04
  yourself and in your regulated nervous system is multiplied.
• 1:09:09
  You go, you go do that for an hour, but then it feels like you
• 1:09:12
  have five more hours in your day to do all the other things that
• 1:09:15
  you feel like you need to do. Oh yeah, I have.
• 1:09:17
  And I still have AI, still have a laundry list of things that I
• 1:09:20
  need to do after I get done with this.
• 1:09:22
  But like I'm like, yes, this is this is so like when you're
• 1:09:25
  like, you want to do this? Like hell yes, yeah, let's do
• 1:09:28
  this. Because all those things,
• 1:09:29
  they're going to feel easier. You're not going to feel as
• 1:09:31
  rushed to do them, even if you feel like, well, you technically
• 1:09:35
  have less time on the clock to get them done moving at a more
• 1:09:40
  relaxed, accepting, joyful pace of doing them.
• 1:09:44
  It's like, oh, I get to do these things because I got to do that.
• 1:09:47
  Yes. And it's not, it's not a has to
• 1:09:50
  do anymore even like it is. But it's also an opportunity.
• 1:09:53
  It's a privilege that I get to do these things because I get to
• 1:09:56
  live this badass life. This life is a privilege, you
• 1:10:00
  know, and all the adversity that I have faced is a privilege
• 1:10:04
  because, yeah, adversity is a privilege.
• 1:10:06
  And people don't ever take themselves out of their comfort
• 1:10:09
  zone and face that I'm never going to know what it's like to
• 1:10:13
  really live. Yeah.
• 1:10:14
  And that was moving up here, was taking myself completely out of
• 1:10:19
  my comfort zone. I left everything that I knew,
• 1:10:22
  you know, left everything that I knew.
• 1:10:23
  Friends, family, neighborhoods, restaurants, like everything
• 1:10:30
  that I knew it was. It's all back.
• 1:10:31
  Even the version of you that was there.
• 1:10:34
  Most importantly, the version of me that was left there and came
• 1:10:38
  here. For a statue up there, yeah.
• 1:10:41
  Yeah, I was looking at the same. Thing I was like, yeah, this is.
• 1:10:45
  Really. They've.
• 1:10:46
  Got bears, They've got bears. They've got a wolf.
• 1:10:48
  They're somewhere. I don't know if it's this house
• 1:10:50
  or if it's downstream, but they have like a log with raccoons
• 1:10:53
  climbing up it. That's pretty cute.
• 1:10:55
  But the where was I at? But I forgot what I was saying
• 1:11:01
  sheet leaving all. Those things.
• 1:11:03
  Behind. Yeah, it's all right.
• 1:11:05
  Like I said, the blonde runs blonde deep, you know?
• 1:11:08
  But yeah, leaving all that behind and coming up here and.
• 1:11:10
  Really. You're so blonde.
• 1:11:12
  Yes, yes, you were a toe head. Goodness gracious.
• 1:11:17
  My God is that. Derogatory.
• 1:11:19
  No, so I used to think it was derogatory.
• 1:11:21
  So it's really funny. So when I was growing up, my dad
• 1:11:24
  had this friend and she would come over and she'd be like, Oh
• 1:11:27
  my God, you're a tow head. I'm like, I didn't know what it
• 1:11:30
  was, right? I really didn't know what it
• 1:11:32
  was. I'm not a tow head.
• 1:11:33
  You tow truck. It's like, yeah, I'd be like,
• 1:11:37
  come calling her a tow truck. And I didn't know idea.
• 1:11:38
  My dad thought it was the funniest thing ever, you know?
• 1:11:41
  So I was like, yeah. So I was like, come.
• 1:11:43
  Back to that. Yeah, I was like 5 or 6 years
• 1:11:45
  old. Dude.
• 1:11:46
  Tow truck. That's funny.
• 1:11:47
  Didn't know, but yeah, every time I talk about joke about
• 1:11:51
  being blonde, people like, wow, you are really blonde.
• 1:11:53
  You are right. Yeah, my mom's really blonde
• 1:11:54
  too. Yeah, my mom's really blonde.
• 1:11:56
  I'm glad I have my mom's here because my dad's bald and I'm
• 1:11:58
  just like. Do you you burn really easy.
• 1:12:02
  I like. Colour your jacket type of bird,
• 1:12:04
  yeah, I mean, I mean ever since I've been up here though and
• 1:12:08
  getting outdoors in the summertime and go hanging out
• 1:12:10
  the river and and being outside like.
• 1:12:12
  You're conditioning. I'm conditioning, you know it
• 1:12:14
  just I can get AI can get a burn line.
• 1:12:19
  A bird line. I get a bird line.
• 1:12:22
  So we're getting fairly close to the end of our float.
• 1:12:24
  So I want to ask. We've talked, I know.
• 1:12:27
  Don't worry, we'll come and do this again on another day, I
• 1:12:29
  promise, where we don't have a time limit.
• 1:12:32
  OK, so we've been talking a lot about martial arts and how that
• 1:12:37
  has been transformative in your life.
• 1:12:39
  But martial arts isn't really done outside until you start
• 1:12:43
  your martial arts retreats, Yes. So I want to know about like a
• 1:12:47
  specific experience that you've had in the outdoors that changed
• 1:12:52
  your life, either altered the trajectory of your life or has
• 1:12:56
  been like that foundational core experience that has informed
• 1:13:02
  your life. You had a lot of outdoor
• 1:13:03
  experiences growing up, but was there one that stands out as
• 1:13:08
  like, that was the day my life changed in an outdoor sense.
• 1:13:13
  Oh, absolutely. So, you know, like I was, there
• 1:13:17
  was a really good friend of mine.
• 1:13:19
  He worked for Patagonia back home, you know, because
• 1:13:23
  Patagonia's headquarters. Yeah.
• 1:13:25
  And so he worked for Patagonia and we would go out and we
• 1:13:28
  would, you know, we would body surf and we'd go like paddle out
• 1:13:31
  in like 10 foot waves and, and go have these come to Jesus
• 1:13:33
  moments and getting wrecked, you know, held under.
• 1:13:37
  But there was, I was trying to, I made a plan with him, like,
• 1:13:39
  hey, let's go, let's go hike Mount Whitney, you know, and I
• 1:13:43
  was like, yeah, let's he's like, yes, let's do it, let's do it.
• 1:13:45
  And so, you know, got the gear for it and get everything ready
• 1:13:48
  to go. And like 2 weeks before he
• 1:13:51
  couldn't do it. He had like a scheduling
• 1:13:52
  conflict with his, with his kids mom and we couldn't go out and
• 1:13:57
  he, he couldn't come with us. And I was like, damn it, you
• 1:13:59
  know, I already got the ticket or the, the, the permit to do
• 1:14:02
  it. And I was like, no, I'm still
• 1:14:04
  going to do it. Like with or without anybody.
• 1:14:07
  I'm still going to go rush it. And I remember and I was like,
• 1:14:10
  you know, I was just like, because I knew I was at
• 1:14:11
  altitude. So I was doing training hikes
• 1:14:13
  and getting in shape for it and, and doing that because I
• 1:14:15
  approached it as like I was getting ready to fight, you
• 1:14:17
  know, I was getting ready for a fight.
• 1:14:19
  And so I remember like the, you know, I'm driving out there and
• 1:14:25
  I did like AI did like an acclamation hike before.
• 1:14:28
  So I went and did like, I went to hike to Lake Kearsarge, which
• 1:14:30
  was like 11,000 feet. Then I hiked to a high mountain
• 1:14:33
  lake, which is like brown lake in the same area.
• 1:14:35
  And I went and like did some fishing for, for golden trout
• 1:14:38
  and like did a few like a couple days of acclamation hikes.
• 1:14:41
  And then like when it the day that it came to do, the day that
• 1:14:46
  I came to do Whitney, it was, I was like, all right, I felt
• 1:14:49
  good, you know, And so I left it.
• 1:14:52
  I left a little later because I slept in, you know, so.
• 1:14:55
  Going to be well rested. Yeah, Well rested.
• 1:14:57
  I've already did like 3 really large hikes right before leading
• 1:15:00
  up to it. And I'm like, you know what?
• 1:15:02
  OK, I got this. I lived a little late.
• 1:15:04
  I wanted to leave at like 230, ended up leaving like 4.
• 1:15:07
  And then I was staying at this like bed and breakfast and the
• 1:15:09
  lady was like, oh, you got a late start.
• 1:15:11
  You know, I was like, you know, all right.
• 1:15:15
  And so it's like I got there, I parked and I was like, well, I
• 1:15:18
  really want to be able to watch the sunrise.
• 1:15:20
  You know, I was like, I got to get up there.
• 1:15:22
  And so, you know, I put my headlamp on and I started, you
• 1:15:24
  know, laced up the boots and started going for it.
• 1:15:27
  And there's just something that competitive kicked in for me.
• 1:15:31
  It was like I started seeing these headlamps in front of me
• 1:15:34
  like, oh, I got to catch that. I got to, I got to pass that
• 1:15:37
  person. I got to pass that person and
• 1:15:39
  the next thing you know, I'm jogging like I'm just sitting
• 1:15:42
  there jogging like, all right, I feel good, you know, And there
• 1:15:44
  was other guys that were on the trail that were jogging that
• 1:15:47
  literally just all they had was their, their camel packs and
• 1:15:50
  hiking or trekking poles and they were jogging.
• 1:15:52
  So I'm like full, I had like a 35 LB pack with me.
• 1:15:55
  I just took everything with me. I didn't know what I was going
• 1:15:58
  to be doing. You know, it was just like
• 1:16:00
  everything with me. So I'm sitting there jogging and
• 1:16:02
  I'm passing them and I'm like, they're like, what's going on
• 1:16:04
  that full? And so I just kept seeing these
• 1:16:08
  lights and I'm like, I got to pass that one, got to pass that
• 1:16:11
  one. And I got to the point where I
• 1:16:12
  was like, I was able to turn around and watch the sunrise.
• 1:16:16
  And then I'm like, well, you know what, let's just let's go.
• 1:16:19
  Like, let's see how fast I can do this.
• 1:16:21
  Like, let's get to the summit. Hey, you know, I'm sitting there
• 1:16:24
  and I'm jogging all the way up. And then there's like the 99
• 1:16:26
  switchbacks. And I start like slowing down on
• 1:16:29
  those a little bit. But I'm just powering through
• 1:16:31
  everything. And, you know, got up to the top
• 1:16:34
  and I'm sitting there like without being tired, just by
• 1:16:38
  myself looking down across that valley.
• 1:16:42
  And I'm going. I just ran to the top of Mount
• 1:16:46
  Whitney and like, I just just sent it, you know, and.
• 1:16:50
  I'm I just did that I. Just did that.
• 1:16:52
  I'm looking, I'm going and I sat there.
• 1:16:54
  I sat there for an hour just in awe and watching all these other
• 1:16:57
  people just walking up there like dying, you know, and I'm
• 1:17:02
  just, it was just like incredible moment of like peace,
• 1:17:05
  accomplishment, reflection and sitting there just like had my
• 1:17:10
  feet hanging off the edge. I'm just like just sitting there
• 1:17:13
  and just going wow. How many miles was that?
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  Round trip 23 Oh my God, like 23 1/2 miles round trip.
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  Did that make you want to run some marathons?
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  Do any sort of running competitive?
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  Ultra the the fact of the matter is I hate running.
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  It hurts. It was just, it was just the
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  competitive, the time and the place.
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  Thing yeah, it was a time and place.
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  I hate running, but you know, I have thought about doing ultra
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  marathons or half iron Man's and all that and like, you know,
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  those are, you know, those are some other objectives that are
• 1:17:45
  other goals I, that I've have put in front of me, you know,
• 1:17:48
  but like for right now, my thing is, is I this Academy built
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  that's, that's objective #1 but I was sitting there and then my
• 1:18:00
  after I was like, all right, you know, it's time to go back down.
• 1:18:03
  And so I turned around and started to go back down and I
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  ran it downhill, you know I ran it downhill.
• 1:18:10
  And so like All in all, from start to beginning, taking a
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  break up there, getting back and taking a wrong turn, having to
• 1:18:16
  backtrack, I did it in 12 hours. Wow.
• 1:18:19
  Oh my gosh. Yeah, I did it in 12 hours.
• 1:18:22
  And so when I got back to my and I like, you know, had a, had a
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  burger at the, at the, the little cat, not the cabin, but
• 1:18:29
  whatever restaurant they had, they had a burger, had a beer.
• 1:18:32
  And I took off and I went back to the bed and breakfast and the
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  lady's like, I didn't make it, did you?
• 1:18:37
  I was like, yeah, here's me holding the sign.
• 1:18:39
  She goes, what the hell do you? I was like, I ran it.
• 1:18:42
  She goes, did you even enjoy it? I was like every second of it,
• 1:18:45
  you know, And it was one of those moments where I was
• 1:18:48
  thinking to myself of like, I can do hard things and it
• 1:18:55
  doesn't matter, like who I'm with what I'm doing.
• 1:19:03
  It's whatever my goals are. It's like I can do the hard
• 1:19:06
  things and I just have to push myself and and stay diligent
• 1:19:10
  and, and do it, you know, stay disciplined enough to just be
• 1:19:13
  like, I I can do this. You know, I didn't need my
• 1:19:15
  friend with me. You know, I didn't, I didn't, I
• 1:19:19
  met a lot of people on the trail.
• 1:19:20
  It's just wild to me because I never really thought about doing
• 1:19:23
  like the piece like Pacific Crest Trail or doing any of that
• 1:19:26
  stuff. But like people were on there
• 1:19:28
  and I was talking to them and they're like, oh, I'm dirt
• 1:19:30
  rabbit or I'm moon Bunny or whatever.
• 1:19:32
  Like I was like, yeah, trail names.
• 1:19:36
  I'm going OK, I'm Jesse. Like I got a time to make.
• 1:19:41
  I got to go jog. All right, you know, take off.
• 1:19:43
  But like, that was one of those pivotal moments when I, you
• 1:19:47
  know, being outdoors and and really, you know, that's that
• 1:19:51
  like that moment of like that is the one that really shaped of
• 1:19:55
  like, well, I need to be outside, you know, that's that's
• 1:19:58
  where I belong. This is what means the most to
• 1:20:00
  me. This is what brings me peace.
• 1:20:03
  This is what brings me peace. This is what brings me peace,
• 1:20:06
  you know, This is what brings happiness.
• 1:20:08
  This is what brings reflection. Because that moment of sitting
• 1:20:11
  on the edge of Whitney and having my, you know, feet
• 1:20:13
  dangling off, that's sick, you know, is that was that was it.
• 1:20:21
  And so now I chase that feeling, you know?
• 1:20:26
  Oh my gosh, shut up. I'm going through a vegan.
• 1:20:35
  That was. A big hole.
• 1:20:50
  You did so good. We're all just like.
• 1:20:57
  Yeah. I got a hair on my lip.
• 1:21:05
  This is going to be the start of our Wave Park future.
• 1:21:10
  Plan One of my future objectives is to have a wave park built
• 1:21:15
  here for white water kayaking and and stand up paddle boarding
• 1:21:19
  and boogie boarding and surfing and.
• 1:21:22
  So you like an actual like surfing way part?
• 1:21:23
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Feel sign the petition, yeah.
• 1:21:28
  Yeah, let's do it. It's actually a guy I used to
• 1:21:31
  work for, knows quite a few people that do that in
• 1:21:36
  California. So there might be some sort of
• 1:21:39
  help or assistance that may bring about.
• 1:21:43
  Excellent. Yes, excellent.
• 1:21:44
  Yeah, yeah. About who you know, not what you
• 1:21:49
  know. Absolutely, and a little bit of
• 1:21:51
  both. A.
• 1:21:52
  Little bit of you got to know a little something about something
• 1:21:54
  in order to get stuff done. At least know something about
• 1:21:57
  yourself and. You got to know how how to use
• 1:22:01
  the people not use, but how to utilize the people that you
• 1:22:05
  know. Be able to put people in the
• 1:22:07
  right places, be able to direct. But yeah, that Whitney, that
• 1:22:13
  Whitney trip was definitely the the pivotal moment.
• 1:22:16
  I would say that's defining for me to.
• 1:22:20
  How old were you? How old was I-32 when I did
• 1:22:25
  that? Well, 32.
• 1:22:27
  Not that long ago. Not that long ago.
• 1:22:29
  And so now it's like now I know if I'm starting to feel anxious
• 1:22:35
  or I'm starting to feel like I need some sort of clarity, it's
• 1:22:38
  the it's get outside. Yeah.
• 1:22:41
  Go go, go, dangle my feet off a Cliff.
• 1:22:45
  Have you been up to the on Dollar Mountain?
• 1:22:48
  There's a nice Little Rock out Cove that is a nice feet
• 1:22:53
  dangling little summity thing that it's good for that out over
• 1:22:59
  Grants Pass and it's just a nice reflection spot, wouldn't you
• 1:23:03
  agree? Yes, absolutely.
• 1:23:04
  Usually it's one of my my reflection spot is is Bolt
• 1:23:07
  Mountain. I get up there Bolt.
• 1:23:09
  I've done Kirby Peak. Nice.
• 1:23:11
  I want to do Kirby. Yeah, I've heard some.
• 1:23:13
  Good things it was. It was a lot of fun.
• 1:23:15
  A lot of fun. Dollar round's a nice lookout
• 1:23:17
  for like, you only have an hour. Yeah, and you want to get up
• 1:23:20
  above. OK, Dollar.
• 1:23:21
  Mountain Dollar. Mountain, other mountain, you
• 1:23:23
  can be you, especially if you jog it.
• 1:23:25
  You could be at the top in like 10 minutes.
• 1:23:28
  And then I did. I finally did McLaughlin.
• 1:23:31
  Awesome. It was so cool.
• 1:23:32
  Yeah, we often was awesome. That was a lot of fun.
• 1:23:35
  Just being able to be like the highest point around this area.
• 1:23:38
  It was that was a cool experience.
• 1:23:40
  Big. Accomplishment.
• 1:23:41
  I haven't done that. I want to do it.
• 1:23:43
  So my next what I, the next, I'm going to do Whitney again, but
• 1:23:46
  I'm actually going to take my time, you know, actually take my
• 1:23:50
  time and do it and stay up there, camp there and, and take
• 1:23:57
  my time and not just be like, okay, I have to, I need to do
• 1:24:01
  this as fast as possible to prove something to myself.
• 1:24:04
  It's not competing with myself. Now it's let's see how slow you
• 1:24:08
  can take it. See how much enjoyment I get out
• 1:24:11
  of it? Yes, you know.
• 1:24:13
  There's another side of the competitiveness of you saw how
• 1:24:16
  fast you could do it, but let's see how slow you could do it.
• 1:24:18
  See how present I could do it? How leisurely.
• 1:24:21
  Exactly leisurely and how present I am to be able to enjoy
• 1:24:24
  those moments. So that's on the radar.
• 1:24:28
  Fuck yeah, this is this has been awesome.
• 1:24:31
  Jesse, thank you so much for saying yes and for being here
• 1:24:35
  and I feel so grateful to have only known you for a few weeks
• 1:24:39
  but feel like I know you pretty well now.
• 1:24:42
  I can call you a friend. Thank you.
• 1:24:44
  I appreciate that you've dropped a lot of great insight and
• 1:24:48
  advice and knowledge and depth. But we do have a few kind of
• 1:24:52
  like quick hit wrap up questions, one being top of
• 1:24:56
  mind, advice or insight for your younger self.
• 1:25:00
  Top of mind insight for my younger self is am I talking as
• 1:25:05
  me or just. Yeah, you.
• 1:25:09
  I guess so that's that's part of the question, right?
• 1:25:12
  Your top of mind, insight or advice for your younger self?
• 1:25:18
  Believe in yourself, you know, believe in yourself and believe
• 1:25:21
  in the direction that you're headed and don't stray from your
• 1:25:27
  path, you know, and listen to the older people that were
• 1:25:33
  around you and the advice that they were giving me.
• 1:25:38
  Awesome, And what is your most trusted or most used piece of
• 1:25:44
  outdoor gear or equipment? Always carry a headlamp.
• 1:25:48
  Yes. Carry a headlamp with some
• 1:25:50
  matches. Awesome and and advice or
• 1:25:55
  insight for getting outdoors in Southern Oregon.
• 1:26:00
  Go take a forest Rd. drive up it, see where you end up and see
• 1:26:05
  what type of adventures you can get yourself on and go try and
• 1:26:08
  find yourself and get lost. Awesome.
• 1:26:11
  And hold on. Let me disclaimer that let's not
• 1:26:14
  let's get lost, but in a Safeway.
• 1:26:16
  Yes, yes, all right. Yes.
• 1:26:17
  Metaphorically, not actually. Yes, metaphorically, not
• 1:26:20
  actually. Not so we have to send out
• 1:26:22
  search and rescue but. Yeah.
• 1:26:24
  Get lost in your mind. Get lost in your mind.
• 1:26:26
  Get lost in your thoughts. Yes, you know, yes.
• 1:26:30
  And when your body expires and your soul leaves this plane of
• 1:26:33
  existence, how do you want to be remembered?
• 1:26:36
  Legacy as a my legacy being remembered who I was is a great
• 1:26:41
  person. My integrity, the way I walked,
• 1:26:44
  the way I talked, what I did for the community and the the
• 1:26:50
  infectious personality that I have on people.
• 1:26:52
  So being able to like, have people be at comfort, be at
• 1:26:56
  peace. Absolutely, and if people want
• 1:26:59
  to learn more about you, get involved in SOMA.
• 1:27:02
  Where can they find you if you want to be found?
• 1:27:05
  If I want to be found, well, you know, obviously running a
• 1:27:07
  business you want to be found. No
• 1:27:09
  southernoregonmartialarts.com. You can follow us on Southern
• 1:27:12
  Oregon, Southern Oregon Martial Arts on Instagram or Facebook.
• 1:27:16
  And yeah, if you need any information, that's where you
• 1:27:20
  can find me, you know? Do you run your account so if?
• 1:27:24
  You get Adm you I do it all. It's going to you.
• 1:27:26
  I am the accountant. I am the social media
• 1:27:28
  coordinator. I have the bookkeeper.
• 1:27:31
  I am the janitor, the instructor.
• 1:27:34
  I do it all. Cool, he's the DJ I.
• 1:27:36
  Am the DJ every take requests I do take requests.
• 1:27:43
  Awesome. Thank you so much, Jesse.
• 1:27:45
  It was really an honor and a privilege to get to have you
• 1:27:48
  today. Thank you for saying yes and
• 1:27:50
  giving us permission to be part of and share a part of your
• 1:27:54
  story. Thank you.
• 1:27:55
  I'm I'm happy to be able to do it and this has been incredible,
• 1:27:59
  so I'm happy to be a part of it. Yay.
• 1:28:02
  I feel like I have a new friend. Yeah.
• 1:28:04
  Yeah. Just, you know, when
• 1:28:07
  personalities align, you're like, yes, you're my people.
• 1:28:11
  Yeah. You know, that's always nice.
• 1:28:12
  Absolutely. Really good that's you had that
• 1:28:16
  you have that personality, you have that personality.
• 1:28:19
  And that was like one of the reasons like yes, I will gladly
• 1:28:22
  do this. And I have found more often than
• 1:28:24
  not, the more I say yes nowadays, the the more people
• 1:28:27
  that I get to that more people that I meet, the more people
• 1:28:30
  that I get to experience with. And for me, like it's all about
• 1:28:33
  experience now. It's not about monetary.
• 1:28:35
  Yes, you know, you have to pay for things, but like the
• 1:28:38
  experience is what we get to take with us, you know, and
• 1:28:40
  hopefully when I'm passing away in my bed or however I pass
• 1:28:44
  away, that like I have those with me still.
• 1:28:48
  Yeah. Heck yeah.
• 1:28:51
  Absolutely yes. Thank you.
• 1:28:53
  Thanks everybody. That's all for today.
• 1:28:55
  Yeah, we'll see you next time, mate.
• 1:28:59
  Huge thank you to Jesse Newell and SOMA Academy for sponsoring
• 1:29:03
  today's episode and honestly for this whole conversation.
• 1:29:07
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• 1:29:10
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• 1:29:29
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• 1:29:32
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• 1:29:34
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• 1:29:37
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• 1:29:46
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• 1:29:49
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