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ONLY BOMBS! 19: Jaime-Lee Simmons · Only Bombs! Comedy Podcast

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  you I sound like I've been smoking for 30 years
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  Not not any different from the way I sound actually
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  like I'm like fuck me, too It's kind of I don't
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  know if it's the weather or what you know what
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  I mean. It's all the smoking I Know like all
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  the vaping and shit. Yeah, I gotta quit Yeah,
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  no, I'm right as she takes a hit all right. I
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  keep a I keep telling myself the same thing I'm
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  like dude. I've gotta fucking stop vaping, but
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  I Don't want to? You know what I mean? Like that
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  kind of thing? Yeah. I don't want to. I don't
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  drink, so I'm 108 days sober. Woo! Oh man. Congratulations.
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  Thanks. I'm sober from alcohol, but... Same.
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  I feel like I have to say that. People are like,
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  oh, well, you smoke weed. And I'm like, yeah,
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  I'm high right now. 108 days. When was that?
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  January 1st. January 1st? Mm -hmm. Yeah, me,
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  it was December. Hell yeah. Yeah. So I haven't
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  touched alcohol since then. I don't want to.
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  You know what I mean? I, like, haven't. wanted
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  to, unless there's like, I went to the rodeo.
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  You went to the rodeo? Yeah. Yeah. And I just,
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  it just seemed like such a vibe where I'd love
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  to crush beers and be like, yeah, ride the bull.
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  Right? Yeah. But so there's like moments where
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  if I'm on a boat, I want to take some shrooms
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  and have a cocktail. I don't know. Like there's
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  like, if I go to Italy and I'm in the vineyards,
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  I will break my sobriety for some Italian wine.
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  Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, I know what
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  you mean. First like going to a bar, local bar
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  for no reason. Yeah, I know exactly what you
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  mean. I think that's like been the hardest part
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  about the whole sobriety thing has been like
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  just finding yourself in moments where you're
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  just like, I just, you know, this seems like
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  a pretty badass time and to have a beer, you
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  know? Yeah. But I'll take gummies or something,
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  or I don't know. I haven't had shrooms in a while,
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  though. I need some sort of vice, yeah. Right,
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  yeah. I need something. Yeah, vaping. It just
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  ends up like that's the fucking thing. Yeah.
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  Yeah. That's a pretty badass start. Vaping's
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  sick. Vaping is fucking sick. Well, welcome to
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  the show. Thank you for doing this. Thanks for
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  having me. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Well, I saw
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  you at Marcus Monroe. Open up for Marcus Monroe.
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  And that was a pretty fucking killer set. Thank
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  you. That was seriously very funny. Thank you.
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  I was really blown away because, especially with
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  your dad joke there, that one got me. I was like,
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  dude, oh my gosh. That's one of my oldest jokes
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  too. But I've changed it a lot and added to it.
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  But it's one of my favorites. Right, yeah. I
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  mean, because it's like, you're setting them
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  up to go in one direction. And you did. I was
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  just like, because I was sitting there thinking
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  the whole time while you were telling it. I was
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  like, you live with your dad. One bedroom. Cool.
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  And then when that punchline hit, I was like,
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  oh, fuck. I was like, bravo. I love the dark.
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  I love dark fucked up humor. Because when your
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  dad dies, the only way that you can handle it
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  is with fucked up humor. Right. So I think I
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  had such a... fucked up childhood that I can't
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  laugh at silly stuff sometimes. It has to be
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  really like - Like fucked up. Yeah. I loved Anthony
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  Jesselny growing up. I liked Jim Jefferies. I
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  loved that he swore and said cunt all the time.
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  That's where I was like, oh, I can do this. Oh,
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  yeah. Yeah, R .I .P. Dad. Anything Jim Jeffries
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  does, especially about religion, oh my gosh,
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  I eat them up. Especially Anthony Jesselnyk,
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  too. I love Anthony Jesselnyk. So would you say
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  those guys are your inspiration for beginning
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  comic? I would say that those were probably the
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  first comics I watched growing up. I didn't really...
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  My dad was really into comedy, but not stand
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  -up. like comedy movies. So he was a big Adam
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  Sandler fan. Oh, OK. And so and he was always
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  like the silly guy. So I think I grew up around
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  comedy, but not standup comedy. And then it wasn't
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  until like my high school sweetheart was like,
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  let's watch this comedy special. Yeah. And I
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  watched Jim Jeffries. I was like, that's. Really
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  cool. That's right up your alley. But I was a
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  terrible public speaker growing up and I had
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  no confidence. So I was a very shy, insecure
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  person. When I saw it, I was like, that's cool.
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  There was no way in hell that I thought that
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  I would ever do it. Yeah. I couldn't even get
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  in front of my class with people I knew to do
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  a presentation. I'd be the type of person like
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  this with a piece of paper being like, and I'd
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  have to read exactly word for word. Wow, so it
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  was never like on your radar that this is something
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  that you wanted to do. Yeah, I was not a good
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  bullshitter, like nothing. I couldn't, I wasn't,
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  yeah. So like what caused you to pick it up and
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  to begin with? So I would say I started making
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  like online content and I would do like funny
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  things, but I focused more on fitness, I guess,
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  when I like started online. And then I moved
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  for my... Sales job. I was a sales rep at a marketing
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  company. I had moved to a new state So I was
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  in living in Manchester, New Hampshire didn't
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  know anybody it's kind of east bumfuck nowhere
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  There's not a lot to do. It's kind of hard to
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  make friends. Yeah, my whole office is all older
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  people and There was one kid in my office and
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  I was like, hey, what is there to do like I'm
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  I need to make friends. And he's like, oh, I
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  go to comedy on Thursday. So I went with him
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  to an, I think, I didn't even know it was an
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  open mic. That's how I didn't know what was going
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  on. I thought it was a show and I was like, wow,
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  there's like 50 people here in this small attic.
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  And this is super fun. And I loved it. And I
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  was like, I wish I could do that. But again,
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  I wasn't, I was still terrified to get on stage.
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  But. I started, I think, watching stand up more
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  and just kind of it piqued my interest. I have
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  different, some people like grew up on it and
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  I didn't, but I ended up like six months later,
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  it was me and a girlfriend and we didn't have
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  anything to do. And so I was like, well, there's
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  comedy. Let's go to the comedy show. And so we're
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  all dressed up because we're about to go out,
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  and this is kind of our pregame, and we're sitting
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  in the front, and one of the kids on stage is
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  like, we're the only women out of like 50 people.
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  Oh, really? It was all open mic 'er dudes. Of
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  course. Yeah. As with tradition. And me and my
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  friend, like, dressed up, so they're all like,
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  why are you here? You know what I mean? And we
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  were like, oh, and my friend just yells, she
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  wants to try stand up. Oh, no. And they were
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  like, oh, get on stage right now. And I was like,
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  no, no, no. I've never wrote a joke in my whole
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  life. Please don't make me get on stage. Wow.
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  And then the entire room just starts going, get
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  on stage. get on stage and I can't be a pussy.
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  So I'm like, fuck, I'm gonna have to do this
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  or I look like a bitch. And so I just chugged
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  my beer. It was a double IPA, I might add. And
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  then I got up there and just told a story about
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  how I was a bad first date. And then I got some
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  laughs and that was like crack. You actually
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  got laughs your first time. Just like a couple
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  here and there, like not, I was bombing in the
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  turn, like looking back at it. But the few reactions
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  I did get. It was electric. It was just like,
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  oh, I like this. And I wrote five minutes that
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  week, like dove head first into comedy. And I
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  came back the next week, had a full five minutes
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  written callback at the end from the beginning
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  of the set. I like studied comedy. And then,
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  yeah, I just did. Whoa, all of a sudden it became
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  my thing So that was like so you you studied
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  like the joke and the joke structure and everything
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  like that And then you you just kind of yeah,
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  there was this podcast It was called let's talk
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  about sets I Never heard that but that's great.
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  Yeah, and Basically, it was like some New York
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  comics. I forget the guy's name Harriet here
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  Harrison tweet or something like that and some
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  other people but they interviewed Like I remember
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  Mark Normand was on it. They interviewed like
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  big comics in New York talking about each episode
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  had different things. Like one of the ones that
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  I loved was the ABCs of comedy. And so it was
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  talking about your A jokes, like your best jokes,
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  your B jokes, which are like, you're still working
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  on, but they're good and get laughs. And then
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  your C jokes, it's just probably like the really
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  new shit that you haven't worked out yet. And
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  how to set up your set like B, C, A. Oh man,
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  I never even. Thought to do that. Yeah, so I
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  was like it taught me like the science behind
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  like I guess setting up your set and like things
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  that I wouldn't even know where to start Yeah,
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  there was one on like storytelling and how to
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  captivate somebody with how you speak and your
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  inflection and things like that and so I just
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  Watch that or listen to like all the episodes
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  and then Watched a bunch of specials, and I was
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  like all right I don't want to watch too much
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  because I don't want to pick up on other people's
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  voices Sure, so I just kind of was like all right.
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  I'm gonna figure out this kind of From there,
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  but it was super helpful. Yeah Did your next
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  time you went up did all that? Stuff that when
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  it came into play was did it work out? Yeah,
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  I actually got I actually got lat like more laughs
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  than the first time still bombing But more that
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  kept me going Wow But it was fun. It was good.
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  Yeah. And so, like, was it, so you started in
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  New Hampshire. Mm -hmm. Yeah. And you performed
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  in Boston as well. I would drive for mics, like
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  an hour, hour and a half, to go to a three -minute
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  mic. And to do one spot for three minutes. Oh,
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  I feel that. I used to drive from Houston here.
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  Yeah. Jesus. So it's kind of like the same thing.
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  Yeah. But I totally get it. So you drive from
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  New Hampshire to Boston and just get like three
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  minutes. Or Worcester, like, yeah, Western Mass,
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  just for a few minutes. Oh, man, wow. Because
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  there wasn't a lot of options. It's not like
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  in New Hampshire, you could go out multiple times
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  a night. Right, yeah. It was like once a night,
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  maybe. Yeah, I used to, so I stayed, I lived
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  in Maine for a little bit and used to go to New
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  Hampshire quite a bit, like around the, I forget
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  where it's called, but like the White Mountains
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  kind of area in New Hampshire. Okay. So it was
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  kind of like, you know, just everything I saw
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  was just like country. So what you're telling
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  me, I'm just like, man, I can only imagine like.
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  You know just a few people like yeah, that's
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  funny. You know there was like it was like a
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  small little Town I guess there were still people
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  they had like a I don't know what the name of
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  the street Elm Street. It's like our 6th Street
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  It's like one Street. Just yeah all the restaurants
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  and bars are on that one Street gotcha Yeah,
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  but then and then it's just kind of I guess apartments
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  and a little bit more country as you go out yeah,
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  so like when you got into a city was it like
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  Was it sort of like, oh shit, you know, like
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  wasn't like a little nerve wrecking? No, because
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  I didn't grow, I grew up like my family's from
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  Boston. So I grew up on the south shore of Massachusetts.
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  We'd go into the city all the time. I was taking
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  the subway and middle school by myself. Sure,
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  yeah. So like the cities, I like love a city.
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  Yeah, I was like. Yeah, and then I was in New
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  Hampshire and I was like itching because I was
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  like there's nothing to do and I'm not stimulated
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  enough. Right. Was there like a place in Boston
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  that you were just like, all right, cool. I can't
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  wait to go and perform comedy here. I didn't
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  perform at a ton of spots. Like I wasn't at Laugh
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  yet. I obviously I like Laugh Boston. I had fun
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  at Nick's Comedy Stop. My favorite room though.
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  I don't know. I guess I wasn't in Boston. I was
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  only in, I wasn't in Boston for that long. Oh,
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  okay. Doing stand -up, like maybe not even eight
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  months. Oh, okay. And I was still an open mic
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  'er. So, like, there was the Middle East. I had
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  fun there. Everyone went there. But the Booker
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  and the host was a little, a little crazy. So,
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  you started to kind of get an idea about what
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  the community was going to look like? Yeah, I
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  did not like the Boston community. You didn't
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  like the Boston community? Why? What were they
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  like? Well, I had friends and then I did a topless
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  comedy show for Black Lives Matter. So because
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  I was doing topless comedy on my only fans, I
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  had just started and then I was protesting and
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  doing everything and I was like, how do I raise
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  money? And I didn't think at the time because
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  no one was subscribing only fans. It was a little
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  more taboo. So I was people were weren't going
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  to just. create an account and have that be on
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  their credit card statement to watch a comedy
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  show. And they gotta explain that to their wives,
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  you know? It's just funny stuff, I swear. Yeah,
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  so I was like, let me do it on Zoom. Zoom? And
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  I'll just collect Venmos and donate all that
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  money to different charities. And it did not
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  have a good reaction. Really? It was not like
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  a bad reaction publicly, but I would say it was
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  a bad reaction in the comedy community. Because
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  I had posted that poster in every comedy Facebook
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  group across the country at the same time. Across
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  the country? And I woke up to basically every
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  city like, trashing me. Why? Like, oh, she has,
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  just another girl has to show her tits to be
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  funny and like, blah, blah, blah. And it's like,
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  yeah, I knew my place. I was an open -micer.
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  I was not funny, but I was doing this for money
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  and I wanted to donate my money to something
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  that I cared about. And so it was just, you know,
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  and I was like, also there's naked shows. Burt
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  Kreischer takes his shirt off. No one's saying
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  anything if it were a man. That's true. So. Who
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  gives a fuck? Also, Republicans don't want to
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  donate, and conservatives don't want to donate
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  to the cause to support black people, so what
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  better way to take their money than for them
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  to pay to see my tits, and then I put that money
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  towards the black community. There you go. I
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  don't know, I feel like that's pretty good. But
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  I got canceled. You got canceled early on. Yeah,
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  like eight months and I was just like a shell
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  of a human and I was very insecure about it and
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  it made me like really and a lot of my friends
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  who I started with kind of turned on me or were
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  liking hate comments and I was like, I thought
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  you were my friend. You know, my intention was
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  fine. Really? I don't know. What I think is really
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  bold about that, though, is that I remember where
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  I was when I was eight months in, and it was
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  just, like, hopefully getting five minutes on
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  stage. I wear button -downs at the beach. I don't
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  know how I would be able to do topless comedy.
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  So that's pretty, like, freaking bold that you
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  even did that. Yeah, I think... I don't know.
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  I did grow up bullied, and my dad was a drug
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  lord, and so I grew up with my family in the
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  newspapers when I was in high school. in a small
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  town. So I've dealt with a lot of rejection and
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  groups of people being against me and stuff.
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  So I think it was a little triggering, but also
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  at the same time, it's like, God, what do I have
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  to lose now? You already have an opinion. Fuck
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  you, I'm gonna make some money and whatever.
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  Fuck it. Yeah. Did anything ever come of that
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  like afterwards as far as a comedy goes like
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  or was it just kind of like you just sort of
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  like Okay, we just got we got to move on this
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  I met a ton of comics from across the country
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  that now I to this day still have like friendships
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  with as a result of that show that I did and
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  Are you asking about the show specifically or
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  no your cancellation or? You're answering exactly
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  what I was asking. Basically, did anything good
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  come from it? Yeah, we raised over, I think,
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  $6 ,000 between two shows. Oh, that's fantastic.
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  And I donated all of that. Made some good friendships.
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  And a year later, I just kind of stayed laser
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  -focused and kept working on social media and
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  comedy. And then a podcast, so that a year later
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  I was at the Hollywood Improv and some... Guy
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  came up to me and was like, are you Jamie Simmons?
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  And I was like, yeah. And he was like, I was
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  in the Facebook group when all that shit went
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  down. And I had thought, here I am thinking everyone's
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  forgot about it, whatever. And then he was just
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  like, I just wanted to say I thought it was really
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  cool, blah, blah, whatever. And I'm like, where
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  were you when I was getting just demolished online?
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  When you were getting freaking picketed. Yeah.
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  But people, it was like, oh, now I have a social
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  media following. And so now I've been along longer.
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  I think there is a bit of kind of like hazing
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  in the beginning. You know when you take like
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  those harder courses? your freshman year or sophomore
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  year and they're weeding you out of a major if
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  you're bad. I feel like that's kind of getting
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  bullied as a newer comic to see, can you handle
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  this? And that's why a lot, you know what I mean?
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  And once people were like, okay, she's here,
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  that didn't get her. Oh, that was cool. Right,
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  you're in. You're in the in crowd now. But there's
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  still people who meet me now and they're like,
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  that was you? I remember that. It got pretty
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  big, huh? It was like... How big was this? Was
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  it like viral big kind of thing? Or was it like
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  it was just it was just talked about amongst
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  comedians. Gotcha. And I because I'd posted in
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  every group, every scene kind of had their own
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  opinion on it. There's nothing going on in a
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  face, a comedian Facebook group for the scene
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  anymore. No, not like. So there's like what?
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  Maybe a post with like a comment on it. This
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  I'm talking every single post I had had like
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  400 plus comments. Damn. It was like the most
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  talked about. Yeah. thing for like June 2020.
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  Yeah. And you said that because there was no
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  comedy going on. Yeah, it was a pandemic. Yeah.
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  So it's like everything is shut down. No one's
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  doing comedy. They're all online. And here is
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  this new fat female comic being like, I'm going
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  to donate to Black Lives with her tits out. And
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  they're all like, fuck you. You're not funny.
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  Granted, they were right. But that's kind of
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  like blows my mind. It's kind of like I just
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  I never heard so many people be like tits. No.
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  That's what I mean, I'm like, why are you angry?
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  You know what I mean? It's like, it's not really
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  like a thing, you know? But when did you end
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  up in Austin? A year and a half ago. Yeah? Yeah,
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  I lived it. I moved from New Hampshire to Boston.
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  I was in Boston for like a year and eight months.
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  And then I moved to Miami September 2021. I was
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  there for three years. Yeah. And then moved here.
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  Did you do Comedy in Miami too? Yeah. Yeah, I
• 19:33
  restarted back up and stand up in Miami. Oh,
• 19:36
  OK. But the scene there is not that great. Really?
• 19:39
  It's just Miami, I would say, is probably one
• 19:42
  of the hardest cities to do stand -up in. Why?
• 19:46
  Do you know? Yeah. Most touring comics don't
• 19:53
  like to go to Miami. Miami's different than Fort
• 19:56
  Lauderdale, but Miami specifically, a comedy
• 20:03
  show is someone's pregame. It's a... dude who's
• 20:08
  taking out some Hot filler BBL chick who's like,
• 20:14
  where are we going? What times like the after
• 20:17
  party and like on her phone the whole comedy
• 20:19
  show Do you know what I mean? Yeah, that's terrible.
• 20:22
  I've gone to so many comedy shows where half
• 20:23
  the audience doesn't speak English So I'm like
• 20:27
  why am I bombing right now and you're like, no,
• 20:29
  they don't understand you they're just like You
• 20:32
  know The old Miami improv shut down because of
• 20:38
  gangs and stuff. People were bringing guns and
• 20:40
  they were shooting up the improv. I'm talking
• 20:42
  old Miami improv. The one now, it's in a new
• 20:46
  location. It's very nice, I love it. Shout out
• 20:49
  to the Miami improv staff. It's a hard place
• 20:52
  to do comedy. You have to really capture people's
• 20:55
  attention. You're in the most materialistic city
• 20:59
  where no one gives a fuck about people talking.
• 21:04
  They want women to be compliant. You think they
• 21:05
  want me to have a personality and a voice? They're
• 21:08
  like, shut up, be hot, and we'll feed you. Hey,
• 21:10
  take your shirt off! Yeah, it's... No, I already
• 21:13
  did that. But it teaches you a lot of skills,
• 21:16
  like, to get people's attention and how to...
• 21:18
  Yeah, to get sharper and capture them quick.
• 21:22
  Yeah, was that something that you kind of...
• 21:24
  I feel like you learned that early on, like,
• 21:27
  to captivate people and, like, you know, grab
• 21:29
  their attention, you know, like, with your comedy,
• 21:31
  huh? Like, that... Especially yeah, that's what
• 21:33
  happens when you grow up trying to get your parents
• 21:35
  attention for so long. You get pretty good at
• 21:38
  it Well, I studied marketing and so I was fascinated
• 21:42
  by what captured my attention growing up like
• 21:45
  what made me watch the YouTube videos that I
• 21:47
  did or the people that I followed online and
• 21:50
  like Okay, so they're eliciting this response
• 21:53
  in me because of their authenticity and willingness
• 21:56
  to Swear and be crazy. Okay, so like that's important
• 22:01
  to me And they're helping me, so how do I be
• 22:04
  that for somebody else? Gotcha. Where some people
• 22:07
  are like, oh, you just want to be in the spotlight.
• 22:08
  And it's like, no, I know how to work with the
• 22:11
  spotlight, but we're all trying to be in the
• 22:14
  spotlight doing what we're doing. Yeah. It's
• 22:17
  about what we're trying to say and why, I think,
• 22:20
  is important. But yeah, I studied marketing and
• 22:25
  business, and I was like, why am I going to get
• 22:28
  paid? a shitty salary, work my ass off for somebody
• 22:32
  else when I want to do this for myself, you know?
• 22:36
  Yeah. So, like, I started my career with a marketing
• 22:39
  business, like, mindset. Mindset. Some people
• 22:42
  started being like, I just want to be a comic
• 22:44
  and be good, and they don't care about the business
• 22:46
  side. But growing up poor, I was like, I have
• 22:48
  no option but to care about the business side,
• 22:51
  so I'm going to do both at the same time. Yeah.
• 22:54
  Man, that's... Kind of where I'm at right now
• 22:57
  Like I'm trying to figure that part out about
• 23:00
  like this, you know, and I just didn't there's
• 23:03
  like a whole other side I was just like, you
• 23:05
  know, okay I'm just gonna get mics and then you
• 23:07
  know, like just have awesome comics and just
• 23:09
  come and talk but then I'm like Oh, there's this
• 23:11
  whole other area that I'm like I had no idea
• 23:14
  about you know what I mean? And this is it's
• 23:16
  crazy. Well, yeah, there's it's like Every industry
• 23:20
  you're in is a is a business. Yeah, it's like
• 23:24
  art is unfortunately, like kind of dying. It's
• 23:29
  not about talent. I was just talking to my friend,
• 23:32
  Zach Orion, he's a comic, and he was like, we're
• 23:34
  in a attention era, not a talent era. Like a
• 23:39
  talent comes second to can you get people's attention.
• 23:42
  Right, yeah. And it's like, so I think caring,
• 23:46
  and people are like, I don't wanna have to care
• 23:48
  about that, I should just be a comic. And it's
• 23:50
  like, yeah, well there's... some amazing comics
• 23:53
  who've been doing it for a long time who don't
• 23:54
  know how to go online anymore and aren't selling
• 23:56
  tickets. Right. And they are killers. Yeah. Do
• 24:00
  you know, there's some people who just like couldn't
• 24:02
  keep the attention and now like they're back
• 24:06
  in the same position. Yeah. You know, it is important.
• 24:11
  It is important. And then you fuck around for
• 24:13
  so long. You wake up and you're like some people
• 24:15
  wake up and they're like, I don't know, you're
• 24:18
  older and it becomes harder. to hustle the way
• 24:20
  that you did when you were younger. Yeah, I'm
• 24:23
  tired. Yeah, me too. I haven't been doing it
• 24:25
  that long. I'm fucking tired. Yeah, me too. That's
• 24:27
  why I was telling you. I'm like, hey, look at
• 24:29
  me. I didn't even like get ready today. I'm tired.
• 24:32
  Neither did I. No, that's the reason why I was
• 24:35
  telling you, like, you know, you know, don't
• 24:37
  even freaking worry. I'm like, we are we're on
• 24:39
  the same page as far as like, give me a minute.
• 24:42
  You know, it's yeah, that's that's something
• 24:44
  I'm kind of learning, too. I've been talking
• 24:45
  to my brother a lot about like trying to come
• 24:47
  up with some kind of like segment. like some
• 24:50
  kind of like show like kind of other thing to
• 24:52
  like supplement this. Like, because even though
• 24:55
  I do like this and I do love like this is what
• 24:57
  I love doing is just having a conversation, you
• 25:00
  know, but like it's like it's not enough, you
• 25:03
  know, and it's like and man, I like when when
• 25:06
  I got that realization, I was just like. Fuck.
• 25:10
  I'm like, man, I don't want to sit there and
• 25:11
  be like, this is the top five worst, blah, blah,
• 25:14
  blah, blah. You know, like I'm just not that
• 25:15
  guy. But I'm like, fuck, dude. Yeah. You know?
• 25:18
  Yeah. It's yeah, it's hard. When you're talking
• 25:21
  about like podcasting, too, like we were like
• 25:25
  making clips and spending money and then they
• 25:27
  weren't going anywhere. And I was like, OK, so
• 25:29
  what makes a good clip? And it's a hook and it's
• 25:31
  a you're making a full point or you're maybe
• 25:34
  catching them off guard or there's a joke in
• 25:36
  it or a cool story. maybe the way that you cut
• 25:39
  it up, because on a podcast you can listen to
• 25:42
  someone talk slowly and take a long time to get
• 25:45
  to a point, but on a clip you can't. So we were
• 25:48
  like, okay, how do we record our podcasts with
• 25:50
  clips in mind? And we were coming up with like
• 25:52
  the topics and the hooks already. So I would,
• 25:56
  every time I started and asked a question, it
• 25:58
  was set up like a hook. Like we knew where we
• 26:00
  would take the combo and so that we could make
• 26:03
  a clip. ahead of time. And then that helped us
• 26:06
  grow. But some people don't like. I think about
• 26:10
  that sometimes, too, like I met a comic who is
• 26:13
  a great comic and he started writing jokes for
• 26:18
  clips. Yeah. Yeah. Like with that in mind, like
• 26:21
  a hook, whatever, which I think you should just
• 26:23
  be like, I think. Good jokes would be able to
• 26:26
  do that anyways, but. I don't know. I see where
• 26:31
  you're going. See what I'm saying? You know what
• 26:33
  I mean? I see exactly what you're saying, because
• 26:36
  that's almost like, you know, like it was what
• 26:38
  I was telling you before. I'm like, oh, I have
• 26:39
  some questions that might be clippables, you
• 26:42
  know, stuff like that. It's like, I even hate
• 26:43
  like having that mentality, you know, because
• 26:45
  I want to have them just like, let's just talk.
• 26:48
  You know what I mean? An authentic conversation.
• 26:50
  Yeah, just an authentic conversation. But it's
• 26:53
  just like that. And I didn't realize that until
• 26:56
  like I started getting like more and more episodes.
• 26:58
  But I will say that on your podcast, The Two
• 27:02
  Girls, One Blonde, those are really entertaining.
• 27:06
  Thank you. Those are legit. It just seems like
• 27:10
  y 'all just have this awesome energy, you and
• 27:13
  Emily, and the way y 'all just bounce off of
• 27:15
  one another. And it's almost like y 'all's energy
• 27:17
  matches. And I love how y 'all find a way to
• 27:20
  bring in the guests. And they kind of match that
• 27:23
  energy, too, in their own way. Yeah, so actually,
• 27:26
  that was kind of all strategic. Because when
• 27:29
  we started, Emily wasn't in comedy or anything.
• 27:32
  We were both kind of new to the podcasting world.
• 27:35
  So we're figuring out that together. And if you
• 27:39
  watch our first episodes, we don't have that
• 27:42
  banter, the comedy banter. And we actually started
• 27:45
  practicing that and we learned like we like took
• 27:50
  note of what led us. uh banter like that and
• 27:55
  be silly with each other and it just got better
• 27:57
  and better so that we can kind of pick up on
• 27:59
  where the other person was going through like
• 28:02
  we did over 250 episodes so um wow i didn't realize
• 28:05
  it was that much it was like five years long
• 28:07
  of a pod oh okay that explains a lot then yeah
• 28:11
  and we used to be like number two in stand -up
• 28:13
  on apple podcasts oh that's awesome yeah we're
• 28:16
  big but it like um unfortunately the podcast
• 28:19
  is no longer and i am not friends with emily
• 28:22
  but We would specifically bring on gas because
• 28:26
  we did the whole thing where we bring on gas
• 28:28
  that actually we didn't have a good. They were
• 28:30
  good podcast gas for what we were trying to do
• 28:33
  and we were like you have to come with some crazy
• 28:35
  stories you have to be willing to talk crazy.
• 28:38
  You have to be willing to collab on clips. Like,
• 28:41
  there was a set of rules before you were even
• 28:44
  welcome on our pod. Oh, wow. So it was like,
• 28:47
  once we, like, figured out what those were through
• 28:49
  trial and error with bad guests, or it just,
• 28:52
  like, not being a good episode, we were able
• 28:55
  to, like, be like, this person would be a great
• 28:57
  guest. And their audience worked with ours. Like,
• 29:00
  so one of those people was Che Durena. Do you
• 29:04
  know who that is? Um, oh, it's not... He's a
• 29:08
  Canadian comic, lives in New York, has a big
• 29:12
  fro, talks dirty. He does a lot of sexual jokes.
• 29:15
  He did the follow me fucking idiot videos. Blew
• 29:19
  up on TikTok. He's doing great. He's hilarious.
• 29:22
  But because he was like more sexual and crazy
• 29:24
  and we brought him on, the episode did so well.
• 29:29
  He collabed on like 15 clips with us. We hit
• 29:32
  like 20 million views in a month. That's insane.
• 29:35
  From clips just with him because the banter was
• 29:37
  so good. The topics were online. He wasn't afraid
• 29:40
  to get like open with us. It was just that's
• 29:44
  like synergistic energy, you know? Yeah. And
• 29:47
  it worked really well. And so we're like, OK,
• 29:49
  we want to be able to only invite people on that
• 29:52
  we feel that way with. So we stopped inviting
• 29:54
  like famous people on in comics. And we're like,
• 29:57
  you're our friend. We have such good energy with
• 29:59
  you. This is going to make a great episode. Oh,
• 30:01
  yeah. And that's kind of what we. But it took
• 30:04
  time, it took a long time for us to be able to
• 30:06
  get to that point of bantering. Yeah, when you
• 30:08
  see clips like that, that you were doing, that
• 30:11
  became viral, what's going on through your mind
• 30:18
  when you're watching this happen? I think the
• 30:24
  first time you're like, oh my God, this is so
• 30:26
  cool, I hit a million views, or whatever. And
• 30:29
  then, unfortunately, like, drug addiction, it's
• 30:33
  never enough. And so you're like, I could always
• 30:36
  do better. And then you kind of get, you paralyze
• 30:38
  yourself a little bit. Like, when you start focusing
• 30:41
  on the numbers rather than the content. So I
• 30:45
  think, like, my whole experience with that podcast
• 30:48
  was such an ebb and flow of, like, this is really
• 30:51
  cool and very exciting and... How awesome is
• 30:54
  this to how do I replicate this? Oh, no, I didn't
• 30:57
  replicate this. Now everyone's going to not listen
• 30:59
  to our pop. Just like, you know, the typical
• 31:02
  negative mindset loop you get in. Yeah. Yeah.
• 31:08
  And I think that actually ends up like you focus
• 31:10
  on the negative. Then you're like, you stop getting
• 31:12
  views and you're like, fuck. Oh, yeah. I get
• 31:14
  that way right now and I only get like 30 views.
• 31:17
  But that ended up happening. There was a time
• 31:19
  period where Emily and I had a lot of fun doing
• 31:20
  it. And then there was a time period where we
• 31:23
  didn't. And our views and audience kind of died
• 31:29
  because of that. And you could tell it was very,
• 31:31
  like, I think evident that we were not vibing
• 31:37
  as well on some episodes. Or just like we didn't
• 31:39
  have the same passion for it. Gotcha. Was it
• 31:42
  because it felt like a job or anything like that?
• 31:45
  Yeah. That was definitely a big part of it. I
• 31:47
  think we had our own personal friendship stuff.
• 31:49
  outside of that and personal lives and It was
• 31:53
  such a full -time job and people don't realize
• 31:55
  the dedication of like having to film every week
• 31:59
  and do this big production and pay for editors
• 32:01
  and then your we did edit like we had an editor
• 32:05
  sometimes and But we did all the marketing all
• 32:10
  of the like booking and Sponsorships or whatever.
• 32:14
  It was was a hundred percent us. We weren't represented
• 32:17
  by anybody. So And even uploading the videos
• 32:21
  to send to an editor and then editing the stuff
• 32:24
  that he sends over even more. It was a lot. And
• 32:28
  then I couldn't really focus on stand -up the
• 32:30
  way I wanted to. The podcast was a priority.
• 32:34
  We didn't have the same love for it, I guess.
• 32:38
  And then I was like, why are we spending money
• 32:43
  on this? I think we'd be much happier if we just
• 32:45
  separated. I think I get it completely, because
• 32:49
  I didn't realize how much this was going to get,
• 32:52
  but there is this love of the game that I have
• 32:56
  for the podcast. the investment, you know, and
• 33:02
  I do it all the time. Yeah, I can't go away.
• 33:05
  Like we'd be like, I have to get back and record
• 33:07
  the pod. You got to get back and record it. Yeah.
• 33:09
  Or you or like you need to edit it. And then
• 33:10
  you're like, fuck the hard drives at home. And
• 33:12
  it's like you're traveling with so many hard
• 33:14
  drives or like anywhere you go. Yeah, I know.
• 33:17
  I know I have like four of them. So where did
• 33:19
  you all like where did you all do that? I mean,
• 33:22
  where did you record at our living room? I we
• 33:26
  redid our whole living room to be a podcast studio.
• 33:29
  Kind of like this whole thing. Yeah, yeah, we
• 33:31
  had um, I think I have a picture I could show
• 33:33
  you. Oh, yeah. Yeah But yeah, it was like we
• 33:38
  did green on the walls and we had everything
• 33:40
  set up so that it was just easy because it was
• 33:43
  so annoying Green on the walls is a good idea.
• 33:47
  I Really? I feel like I'm like I knew I want
• 33:49
  to do that for this or green somewhere Give me
• 33:52
  some green. Honestly. I love it. I think it makes
• 33:55
  it look so fun and like eye -catching the green
• 33:59
  and neon, any neon lights I always think look
• 34:02
  so good online. I know what you're talking about.
• 34:05
  I've been wanting to get like Only Bombs like
• 34:07
  neon light for this place because I feel like
• 34:08
  it would just add that. Yeah, it's super fun.
• 34:12
  Yeah. Have you thought about getting another
• 34:13
  one? Another podcast, I mean? I'm still figuring
• 34:16
  out exactly what I want to do or if I'm just
• 34:18
  going to focus on stand -up for a little bit.
• 34:20
  Sure. Hell yeah. Your stand -up is killing it.
• 34:25
  Are you going? No, actually keep complimenting
• 34:27
  me. Yeah, no, your stand -up is killing it. I
• 34:30
  think what I was really most impressed by was
• 34:32
  your jokes are just tight. You know what I mean?
• 34:34
  I can tell you, you've done them a lot, you rehearse
• 34:37
  them a lot. And have you kind of noticed a difference
• 34:40
  in the evolution of your stand -up? Yeah, I think
• 34:42
  I have, they're more tag -heavy. I'm more like
• 34:45
  bop, bop, bop. What I'm struggling with, and
• 34:48
  I keep hearing this from comics who are better
• 34:50
  than me, is that I sound like I'm telling my
• 34:54
  jokes. Oh, okay. And I, it sounds like I'm like,
• 34:58
  Jesus. It sounds like I'm telling my jokes like
• 35:02
  I'm reciting them instead of just talking like
• 35:05
  this. Which I, when I'm up there, I'm like, I
• 35:07
  feel like I'm just talking. Right. But I've heard
• 35:10
  this from enough comedians to be like, yeah,
• 35:13
  you had an amazing set and four applause breaks,
• 35:15
  but you sounded like you were rehearsing your
• 35:18
  jokes. And I'm like, I feel like I'm talking,
• 35:21
  but that's kind of where I'm at working on. right
• 35:24
  now, and I think I have the writing and the tags
• 35:29
  down, but now I need to focus on how do I make
• 35:32
  it seem like it's the first time of me saying
• 35:34
  it? Yeah. Because you're saying, like, oh, it
• 35:37
  sounds like you've rehearsed, which is a good
• 35:40
  thing, but also is hurting me, too. Yeah, I see
• 35:43
  what you're saying. From killing, I think. I
• 35:45
  see what you're saying. Yeah, because I guess,
• 35:48
  like, I don't know. I mean, I thought it was
• 35:51
  really good, you know, but I think I was like,
• 35:53
  I was, the way I was judging it was sort of like,
• 35:55
  I was almost, maybe I was expecting like, you
• 35:59
  know, somebody to not do well or like bomb because
• 36:01
  I've just seen that a lot, especially like if
• 36:03
  I go see like national artists or whatever, unless
• 36:05
  I'm at the mothership where people are there
• 36:07
  to actually see a comic, like I feel like I wanted
• 36:12
  to make a shirt that says nobody laughs in Austin.
• 36:15
  No one laughs in Austin. Austin's a hard scene.
• 36:18
  which is why people get really good. I feel like
• 36:20
  I'm in boot camp. It's like, and I don't say
• 36:23
  hard, like a negative, you know? But you're fighting
• 36:25
  for spots, you're fighting for attention and
• 36:28
  to stay relevant. Like, you think, me coming
• 36:31
  in with a podcast meant nothing. Like, and it
• 36:34
  shouldn't. It should be about what I can do on
• 36:35
  stage, you know? But I think that there was an
• 36:38
  idea that it would, I felt like was projected
• 36:41
  on me and I'm like, no, it's actually I think
• 36:43
  making it harder because people like wanna...
• 36:46
  Make sure I'm working right to get where I'm
• 36:49
  at. Yeah, does that make sense? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 36:51
  Yeah, and that's exactly what I see Yeah, you're
• 36:53
  finding spots. You're on stage sometimes with
• 36:56
  fucking someone insanely good. Yeah, you know
• 36:59
  like Yeah, so it's You really have to hold your
• 37:07
  own against some of the best comics you really
• 37:10
  do You know and when they're so used to seeing
• 37:12
  really good comics You're I'm four years in like
• 37:17
  that material is not always gonna It shows the
• 37:21
  difference in like the length and experience
• 37:24
  shows. Yeah. Do you have like a favorite Austin
• 37:27
  comic? Hmm I know that's a hard one. I know it's
• 37:34
  a hard one because if I had to answer it, I'd
• 37:36
  be like fuck I don't even know There's just so
• 37:39
  many good ones and for different reasons. Yeah
• 37:43
  There is, there is so many. There's so many,
• 37:46
  yeah, I don't know. Yeah, there's so many, I
• 37:49
  don't think I have a favorite. Yeah, that's completely
• 37:52
  understandable. This shit, like, I mean, there
• 37:55
  are people whom, like, so I started in 23, in
• 37:58
  Austin. So I started in 23, and, you know, there
• 38:04
  are people whom I used to just do these, like,
• 38:07
  open mic circuits with, who are now, like, you
• 38:11
  know, Like, they're great. And they were great
• 38:13
  back then, too, you know? But it's just, it's
• 38:16
  so awesome just seeing, like, people just kind
• 38:18
  of climbing that ladder, you know? Just seeing,
• 38:20
  like, people, like, kind of get there and everything.
• 38:23
  I feel like you're kind of, like, on that, like,
• 38:26
  up and up. Do you feel that way? Or, like, is
• 38:28
  it just a constant, like, struggle? Yeah. I feel
• 38:31
  like I know what to do to get to where I want
• 38:36
  to go. And I'm dedicated enough to be to know
• 38:40
  that like if I stay where I'm at that a positive
• 38:45
  outcome is in my future. Does that make sense?
• 38:49
  So yeah, I'm on up and up, but not in like a
• 38:50
  cocky way where it's like, yeah, clout. Does
• 38:53
  that make sense? Like I'm like, no, I still got
• 38:55
  to put the reps in and work and I am like, and
• 38:59
  I have a long ways to go, but I'm very excited
• 39:02
  for that journey. And it's so cool to watch my
• 39:05
  friends also go through that from being like,
• 39:07
  open micers to like on the road doing like arenas
• 39:11
  with some people and I'm like, holy shit, this
• 39:13
  is so cool to watch people around you like grow.
• 39:17
  So because I moved here from Boston and so there's
• 39:19
  a huge Boston scene here from the guys that I
• 39:21
  started with. Really? Yeah, Mason West is one
• 39:26
  of them. Oh, okay. Wait, Mason West, Mason Smith?
• 39:29
  What am I saying? I knew a Mason West from college.
• 39:32
  Mason Smith, he was one of the only comics who
• 39:35
  was nice to me during the cancellation, moved
• 39:37
  here. He's the one who recommended me to the
• 39:40
  talent booker to open for Marcus. Oh, that's
• 39:43
  great. So it's like, but a lot of those comics
• 39:45
  hadn't seen me in five years. They just watched,
• 39:48
  I guess, my growth online. And so it's like cool
• 39:51
  to be like, holy fuck, look at us five years.
• 39:54
  I haven't seen any of you guys in years. Yeah.
• 39:57
  How good you guys are and like what you're doing.
• 40:00
  I don't know. I love it. I love the community.
• 40:03
  Oh, that is really cool. I think one of the first
• 40:08
  places I ever did stand up was this place called
• 40:10
  Bad Astronaut in Houston. And that's where I
• 40:14
  met Trey Campbell. And so now Trey Campbell is
• 40:17
  like freaking everywhere, you know, but it's
• 40:19
  just kind of crazy to see like, you know, like
• 40:21
  just we were just at this like little writers
• 40:23
  room kind of thing. And then we did like an open
• 40:25
  mic, you know. And then all of a sudden, like,
• 40:28
  what the fuck? Like, it's just crazy, you know?
• 40:30
  Yeah. It's just crazy. It's like... Yeah, even
• 40:32
  like, um, like, no, like, uh, Cam Patterson blowing
• 40:38
  up on Kill Tony. Deddy, I was friends with Deddy
• 40:41
  before Kill Tony, and he was, like, taking the
• 40:45
  bus everywhere. Yeah. And, like, had been doing
• 40:47
  it for so long, and was very talented, but just,
• 40:50
  like, you know what I mean? And then all of a
• 40:51
  sudden we got to watch his life. change overnight,
• 40:54
  which is like so incredible to be like, fuck
• 40:56
  yeah. Like you've been out here grinding every
• 40:59
  day doing that. So it's it's really cool to see.
• 41:02
  It is really cool to see. And it's also motivating
• 41:04
  because like you will be left behind if you are
• 41:06
  not hustling like that, too. Yeah, you got to
• 41:09
  hustle. That's for damn sure. How many mics do
• 41:11
  you usually hit a week? It depends, but not a
• 41:16
  ton. Not a ton? No. Are you focusing mostly on
• 41:19
  your writing kind of thing? Yeah. Well, the last
• 41:23
  year has been hard for me. I think I developed
• 41:29
  some sort of autoimmune condition after a toxic
• 41:35
  relationship. The move here, I kind of lost everything
• 41:37
  in the move and then I went and was in a toxic
• 41:40
  relationship. and my nervous system has been
• 41:42
  fucked since. So I was like, blood pooling in
• 41:45
  my legs, can't walk or stand for long periods
• 41:49
  of time. So I was kind of struggling with fatigue
• 41:56
  and brain fog as a result, and a lot of inflammation
• 41:59
  in my body, which is part of the reason I stopped
• 42:01
  drinking, to see if that was causing more inflammation.
• 42:04
  I was like, I'll do what I can to... Coming down,
• 42:07
  so I was not able to get up as much as I would
• 42:10
  have liked to this last year So I'm like disappointed
• 42:12
  and I hold guilt and shame for that But also
• 42:14
  I was like taking care of my health and now I'm
• 42:17
  at a point where I'm like, okay, we're back at
• 42:19
  it I'm up trying to get up every night. So tonight
• 42:22
  gonna hit some mics. Oh, yeah, but also like
• 42:25
  I was doing shows Almost ever like every night
• 42:29
  and the nights off. I would be doing only fans.
• 42:31
  So it's like Sometimes I'm doing multiple shows
• 42:33
  a night and I don't know You're still working.
• 42:36
  Yeah, on a night off, I'll do mics. Or if, I
• 42:39
  don't know, if it works at the schedule. But
• 42:42
  everyone will be like, you should be hitting
• 42:44
  mics all the time. But I just don't think, there's
• 42:47
  good Austin mics, like Cackle Shack is one on
• 42:49
  Mondays, but I sign up for Kill Tony. But that's
• 42:52
  a little show, whereas a lot of the mics here
• 42:55
  are four people in the crowd to an open room.
• 42:57
  I'm not really getting a good gauge. No, I'm
• 43:01
  right there with you. I don't know. Whereas mics
• 43:03
  in Miami were different. Mics in Miami, like,
• 43:06
  I actually felt like I was getting something
• 43:08
  out of the mics. I'm like, I'm not gonna do a
• 43:10
  midnight mic to four comics. I'm gonna get a
• 43:13
  good night's sleep or go home and write and feel
• 43:15
  better so that I'm showing up more. I burnt myself
• 43:19
  out. I feel that. I feel that. I mean, my whole
• 43:22
  thing, like, and, you know, I'm also trying not
• 43:24
  to sound like... Cocky or nothing like that because
• 43:27
  I'm not I'm not at that point comedic I'm not
• 43:29
  either like I should be hitting shit every night
• 43:32
  multiple times a night. Yeah, my health literally
• 43:35
  Oh, he's getting in the way and it's unfortunate.
• 43:37
  You gotta take care of that, you know, especially
• 43:39
  like I'm no stranger like stress anxiety like
• 43:42
  all that shit like but when it comes time like
• 43:44
  I shut I shut everything down I'm like I need
• 43:46
  to relax. You know, yeah, so I totally get it
• 43:49
  You know, I actually like I really stopped doing
• 43:51
  mics. I'd started doing like only shows And it's
• 43:55
  like, I've been feeling a lot better personally.
• 43:58
  Like if I go out and just do a show, I just,
• 44:00
  I get there and I'm just calmer. I know exactly
• 44:03
  how much time I have. It's usually longer than
• 44:05
  three minutes. I'm more relaxed. And like I said,
• 44:09
  I'm not trying to be cocky. I don't get shows
• 44:11
  all the time or nothing like that. But when I'm
• 44:15
  trying to work on shit, I'll go to mics and everything.
• 44:18
  Yeah, I feel like I should be at more. I just
• 44:21
  haven't found, there's not a ton of... Good mics
• 44:24
  here. There's like cap city. There's but if I
• 44:27
  have shows I can't make it up north so it's like
• 44:30
  sometimes I'm like, all right Well, I'm gonna
• 44:32
  take the show over the mic but um sure Yeah,
• 44:36
  but I think with this new stuff that I'm working
• 44:39
  on I'm I might just go to Mike's to start talking
• 44:42
  on stage. Just so you don't get it out. Yeah
• 44:44
  Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. I should
• 44:47
  be doing like that, you know I should be working
• 44:50
  harder that's to the comics listening. I know
• 44:53
  I know Yeah, they have someone know that they
• 44:56
  just hit it and hit it and hit it and hit it
• 44:58
  and hit it and you know more power to them It's
• 45:00
  just you know, like I just can't do it that way.
• 45:03
  So I was a physically literate. I cannot stand
• 45:07
  Mmm, like walking I'm taking a shower Will cause
• 45:12
  me to be an immense pain in my legs. I started
• 45:15
  I I've been going to the doctors, taking all
• 45:17
  these blood tests, got my IUD out, which I have
• 45:20
  felt better. Like, it hasn't even been 30 days.
• 45:23
  And immediately I was like, was this the source
• 45:25
  of all of my struggles? Because you can get copper
• 45:29
  toxicity and all this stuff, and it caused a
• 45:32
  lot of inflammation. I instantly feel much better,
• 45:35
  but I still have some of the stuff going on.
• 45:38
  When I was looking at my symptoms, I was like,
• 45:41
  oh, fuck, it looks like MS. Like, it lines up.
• 45:44
  with MS, which would be terrifying. People were
• 45:49
  like, get on stage. I'm like, I can't stand up.
• 45:53
  But then I talked to a therapist and I was like,
• 45:57
  cause I'm in therapy to talk about the guilt
• 46:00
  and shame. It's like, I feel like I'm a bench
• 46:02
  at a, like one of my high school soccer games.
• 46:05
  You know what I mean? And I can't play and I'm
• 46:07
  like, I want to be out there like, but I'm on
• 46:10
  the bench. And then the therapist was like, how
• 46:13
  old are you? And I was like 32. And he was like,
• 46:15
  I know a lot of people who got diagnosed with
• 46:17
  MS at your age and this is sounding. And I go,
• 46:18
  oh no, this is another person telling me it might
• 46:22
  be MS. So now I have to go to a neurologist and
• 46:26
  figure out what the fuck is wrong. Oh yeah. No,
• 46:30
  I'm right there with you. I have symptoms and
• 46:32
  everything. And I went to my doctor and I was
• 46:33
  like, dude, I hate to say this. I think I might
• 46:37
  need a colonoscopy. You know, it's like me too
• 46:40
  You just start like going like dude check me.
• 46:44
  Yeah, there's something wrong There's something
• 46:47
  about aging where I'm like, I never cared about
• 46:49
  this stuff. And now I'm like, oh Did I get enough
• 46:53
  fiber today? My friends recipes about like soups
• 47:00
  that are anti -inflammatory with extra fiber
• 47:02
  because they're like my boyfriend's not taking
• 47:04
  proper shits and I'm like I got you I know exactly
• 47:08
  what you mean. I just met a guy at a bar two
• 47:11
  nights, or like three nights ago, and he was
• 47:13
  like, hey, before you guys leave, should I move
• 47:18
  to Austin? And I was like, where are you moving
• 47:19
  from? And he's like, Miami. And I was like, no.
• 47:22
  No, stay. But then we just started talking, and
• 47:25
  he started talking about gut health. Before I
• 47:26
  know it, me and my girlfriend are talking to
• 47:28
  these two dudes about shitting and gut health
• 47:30
  and all this stuff. And I was like, wow, this
• 47:32
  is adulting. Because back in the day, they'd
• 47:33
  been like, Oh, a girl talked about poop? Oh,
• 47:36
  no. And now we're all like, what probiotics do
• 47:39
  you use? And what brand of fiber? Like, whatever.
• 47:42
  Look, let's get into this shit, OK? Yeah. Like,
• 47:44
  no, but totally. Like, for real. Like, my doctor
• 47:46
  was like, you need more vitamin D. And I was
• 47:49
  like, I work nights. And she was like, yeah,
• 47:52
  you need to eat more fish. You need, like, more
• 47:54
  vitamin D. All this stuff like that. And I was
• 47:56
  like, Doc, is that why I'm tired, like, all the
• 47:59
  time? And she's like, probably. Yeah, but they
• 48:01
  just say vitamin D and I'm like, well, what's
• 48:04
  causing you to not retain the vitamin D? Because
• 48:05
  I've been taking vitamin D. That's what they
• 48:07
  told me too. Nothing changed. No shit. No. Damn
• 48:10
  it. It's not, I think it's not about like supplemental
• 48:13
  vitamin D. I think we literally like, I think
• 48:16
  as humans, we are experiencing zucosis. Zucosis?
• 48:22
  Zucosis as a group. of people in the world. We're
• 48:28
  experiencing zucosis because what happens with
• 48:32
  us being trapped in our houses, similar to zoo
• 48:34
  animals who are trapped in cages, they start
• 48:37
  developing behavioral issues and they start hurting
• 48:40
  themselves. They start, it's just a whole, they
• 48:44
  go through psychosis because they're trapped
• 48:46
  in a cage and they're not living their real lives.
• 48:48
  So we had COVID or we had that thing we can't
• 48:51
  talk about, the Pandy. And we were all stuck
• 48:55
  inside and now we all have a slew of mental health
• 48:58
  issues and physical symptoms because we are not
• 49:01
  meant to be working like this and trapped inside
• 49:05
  we're trapped in this is like essentially. system
• 49:08
  that we can't escape, and we're all experiencing...
• 49:11
  Right. ...zucosis. There is something to that,
• 49:14
  though. There's something there. Yeah, because
• 49:16
  it does seem like the world is, like, getting
• 49:17
  fucked up. Like, yeah, we're all, like, animals
• 49:20
  in trap cages being like, we're fucking done
• 49:22
  and our bodies are falling apart, we're getting
• 49:24
  sick, we're... It's bad. I know somebody, she's
• 49:29
  28 maybe, 27, 28, has stage three colon cancer.
• 49:34
  No, really? Yeah, a girl. That's fucking awful.
• 49:37
  It's the rates for colon cancer around young
• 49:40
  women in like their early 20s, like 22 years
• 49:44
  old. No, shit. Really? Are skyrocketing. Jesus
• 49:47
  Christ. Colon cancer in the young, because of
• 49:49
  all the stuff in our food and everything. Holy
• 49:52
  shit, yeah. It's really bad. I know the food
• 49:54
  is bad. Like, what was it? I saw something, somebody
• 49:58
  said something, it was like a Ted Talk or something
• 49:59
  like that, but she was like, and I'm totally
• 50:03
  paraphrasing here, but she said something like,
• 50:05
  if you need to take a shot, to prevent you from
• 50:08
  eating the food that you should be eating, then
• 50:12
  that's like taking a shot to prevent you from
• 50:14
  getting thirsty. Like it shouldn't be that way.
• 50:19
  The food shouldn't be that bad that you have
• 50:22
  to take a shot to be like, don't eat. You know
• 50:25
  what I mean? And it's like, that just clicked.
• 50:28
  When she said that, I was like, and I really
• 50:30
  wish I remembered who said that. But yeah, when
• 50:33
  she said that, it just clicked and I was like.
• 50:34
  That is really fucking right, you know? Like,
• 50:37
  people are just taking, like, their ozempic,
• 50:39
  and it's her zepatide, and, like, all this stuff
• 50:40
  to try to get them to stop eating this fucking
• 50:43
  terrible food that we have. Well, it's because
• 50:44
  it's, like, addicting. It's not even food. It's,
• 50:46
  like, chemicals. It is. Yeah. It is very addicting.
• 50:50
  I can tell, because I started eating healthy
• 50:53
  and, like, pretty raw. Like, I used to never
• 50:55
  eat fruits and vegetables. And I started eating
• 50:58
  that. as I was healing and focusing on my health,
• 51:01
  because I'm very dedicated with stand -ups. So
• 51:03
  it's like, all right, well now I'm learning fucking
• 51:07
  human anatomy and the basic understanding of
• 51:09
  gut health so that I can be a better comic, so
• 51:12
  I can survive and do comedy. It's crazy. So have
• 51:16
  you noticed a difference since changing your
• 51:18
  diet like that? Has it actually made an increase
• 51:21
  in energy and things like that? I think that
• 51:28
  I think we're very, we're influenced by how we
• 51:32
  grew up in our environment. So like, you know
• 51:34
  how we can't go to Mexico and drink the water,
• 51:36
  but people in Mexico can? Yeah. Okay. I feel
• 51:39
  like I grew up eating pizza and like fast food
• 51:44
  and frozen shit and leftovers. Same. And so my
• 51:48
  body reacted really well to that. So when I switched
• 51:51
  to healthy food, my body... did not react and
• 51:54
  I had actually like the opposite reaction. The
• 51:57
  first time I did it, I had the sugar flu and
• 52:00
  I got so sick throwing up because I like cut
• 52:03
  out processed foods. Oh, I see. So like withdrawals.
• 52:08
  And then because my body had all the enzymes
• 52:10
  to process the processed foods, because it prioritized
• 52:14
  those growing up, I no longer had the enzymes
• 52:17
  to process like broccoli or like actually healthy
• 52:21
  of raw foods. Oh my God. So it's like, if I have
• 52:26
  warm cooked foods, I react good. But yeah, I
• 52:30
  do feel that my body has less inflammation. It
• 52:34
  took me a while, it took me years to get used
• 52:36
  to healthy food without having bad reactions.
• 52:40
  And I realized I'm allergic to a lot of fruits
• 52:42
  and random shit. Really? Yeah. So it was like
• 52:47
  years of like having bad reactions and I remember
• 52:49
  one time I had like the sugar flu Ate fucking
• 52:51
  the whole thing of mac and cheese and I was like,
• 52:53
  whoa, my headaches gone. I feel better. We're
• 52:55
  gonna I can go Do stand -up today? Yeah, but
• 52:59
  I'll be like, let me eat this salad and then
• 53:00
  I'm like my brain isn't working, you know, hey
• 53:04
  Yeah, no, I don't uh, like I don't eat like milk,
• 53:08
  you know our drink. I don't eat it You know,
• 53:11
  but uh, but yeah, I don't drink milk I really
• 53:14
  like I'll eat cheese but like but all that shit
• 53:15
  like fucks me up, you know, like real bad and
• 53:18
  like Because that's so the cheese in America
• 53:20
  is not even cheese. It's not. No, it's not We're
• 53:23
  eating plastic that shredded Mexican blend is
• 53:26
  plastic Yeah, I saw I saw this video wants on
• 53:29
  tiktok of this dude's like making a pizza, right?
• 53:31
  And he was like making a pizza with an Italian
• 53:34
  guy and the Italian guy was like I'm gonna show
• 53:36
  you how to make a real pizza, right? And then
• 53:39
  this dude had the audacity to pull out one of
• 53:41
  those Babybel mozzarella cheese. And the Italian
• 53:44
  dude was like, that's not cheese. That's not
• 53:47
  cheese. I don't know what the fuck that is, but
• 53:50
  that's not cheese. That's not cheese. And yeah,
• 53:52
  I was just like, man, that's the way other people
• 53:55
  are viewing our food. Our food is fucked up.
• 54:00
  Fucked up. Yeah, apparently government cheese
• 54:03
  was like leftover cheese. Oh yeah, yeah, my parents
• 54:06
  grew up on government cheese. Yeah, we used to
• 54:08
  have like the blocks, where it just said the
• 54:10
  word cheese. It just looked like just cheese.
• 54:14
  I don't know, it'd be like every week or every
• 54:16
  month we'd go up and get our block of cheese.
• 54:18
  Was yours in like a silver wrapper? I didn't
• 54:20
  have it growing up, but my mom did. Oh, your
• 54:23
  mom did, gotcha. Yeah, yeah. Ours was in like
• 54:25
  a silver wrapper. It was like silver wrapper
• 54:27
  and it just said the word cheese. And it was
• 54:30
  like... I don't know about this like even as
• 54:32
  like a kid. I was like, I don't think so, dude
• 54:34
  So I worked at uh, you know, what wall burgers
• 54:37
  is no, it's a it's Paul Wahlberg's Marks Brothers.
• 54:43
  He's like a chef his burger restaurant and now
• 54:46
  it's a chain but I worked at the original when
• 54:49
  they opened it and They grew up in Dorchester.
• 54:53
  So like Not a good area to grow up in and they
• 54:57
  grew up on government cheese. So like the story
• 54:59
  behind the burgers that they made was like their
• 55:01
  mom's smash burger or their mom's burger recipe.
• 55:04
  And they used like blocks of cheese for their
• 55:06
  cheese. I don't know if they still use that,
• 55:08
  but I'm pretty sure it was like the idea of like,
• 55:11
  oh, we're going to use government cheese because
• 55:13
  that's what our we grew up on. Oh, man. Yeah.
• 55:16
  I mean, something like that. But there is something
• 55:18
  about like about it, though, like where you're
• 55:20
  telling me about it. And I'm like, that sounds
• 55:21
  appetizing as fuck. It was, I loved the burgers.
• 55:25
  I don't know if they actually use government
• 55:27
  cheese. Don't quote me on that. I'm probably
• 55:29
  wrong. I'm going to get sued. I don't know about
• 55:32
  that. That would be kind of cheesy. I would be
• 55:36
  like, no, I worked for you. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
• 55:39
  Man, I think I worked at Subway and then I used
• 55:42
  to eat Subway a lot. And then I read that I think
• 55:46
  the bread is made out of something like the same
• 55:49
  kind of ingredients or something as yoga mats
• 55:51
  or something like that. What? Well, yeah, the
• 55:55
  things are like McDonald's and their burgers
• 55:57
  not lasting. Yeah. Or their burgers lasting for
• 56:00
  like years. I just saw a video of a grandma.
• 56:02
  She was like, this burger's from 1984 and it
• 56:05
  was in perfect condition. Perfect condition.
• 56:07
  I was like, that's how, what is it doing inside
• 56:10
  of our body? That's fucking weird. You know what
• 56:12
  I mean? That's just so strange. Did you see that
• 56:15
  thing about like how it was like some dude On
• 56:18
  the internet, like we're saying that, the amount
• 56:22
  of burgers that McDonald's puts out doesn't match
• 56:25
  the amount of cows. We're eating people. No,
• 56:27
  no, we're literally eating people. Soylent green,
• 56:30
  basically, yeah. Fried chicken, chicken used
• 56:32
  to bleed when you cooked it. Yeah, now I'm like
• 56:37
  the same. It doesn't bleed anymore. Yeah, it's
• 56:39
  weird. It's fucking strange. It's because the
• 56:41
  vampire sucked the blood out of the human meat
• 56:43
  that we're eating and the elites are evil and
• 56:45
  we're doomed. And I'm just seeing, making sure
• 56:49
  I can take a normal shit today and get on stage.
• 56:52
  Yeah, I'm like, dude, if I could just get one
• 56:53
  log, I think I'll be all right. If I could just
• 56:56
  log a log, I think I'll be good to go. But that
• 57:00
  is, man, the pursuit of regularity, you know,
• 57:03
  in our bodies. I hate adulting. I miss being
• 57:09
  a feral, young 22 -year -old just so blissfully
• 57:13
  unaware of what... what I was doing to my body
• 57:17
  and the impact it would have on me as an adult.
• 57:19
  I know. Oh man, I know exactly what you're talking
• 57:22
  about. Or stress. Stress will kill you. Stress
• 57:24
  will, yeah. I think that's literally what developed
• 57:27
  some sort of autoimmune. It's like the moment
• 57:29
  I'm stressed, it's like flare up. And then I'm
• 57:32
  like, if anything stresses me out, I am not a
• 57:34
  functioning human being. So I literally have
• 57:36
  to just, every day. Yeah. I'm so grateful. things
• 57:40
  are working out for me and nothing can affect
• 57:43
  me. Is that what you do to relax? You meditate?
• 57:46
  I meditate. Sometimes I just need to zone out.
• 57:51
  Sometimes I need a good laugh or like be social.
• 57:54
  Sometimes I think a good friend hang. Like I
• 57:58
  do game nights and we play this game called Secret
• 58:00
  Hitler and it's amazing. So have you ever heard
• 58:05
  of the show Traders? No. Okay, so the show Traders
• 58:08
  is you have traitors and faithfuls and everyone,
• 58:12
  say there's like 20 people, everyone's pretending
• 58:14
  to be a faithful, okay? And there's a couple
• 58:19
  of traitors amongst you and your goal is to vote
• 58:22
  who you as a group think the traitor is out.
• 58:26
  And by the end, if you vote all the traitors
• 58:27
  out, the faithfuls win the money, but if the
• 58:30
  traitors remain in and they get away and you
• 58:32
  think that they were a faithful the whole time,
• 58:34
  they win the game. So it's a game of lying and
• 58:36
  deception. Secret Hitler is liberals and fascists
• 58:41
  and there's two fascists and one Hitler and it's
• 58:45
  like a political game and you're all kind of
• 58:47
  like fighting and lying and you don't know who's
• 58:49
  the fascist or and who's like a liberal and you
• 58:52
  have to vote them out so that the fascists don't
• 58:54
  take power. Okay, so how do you decide like who's
• 58:57
  who? It's like cards and we pass them out and
• 59:00
  you kind of like game. Yeah, like you secretly
• 59:02
  look at it and then you pass like fascist or
• 59:05
  liberal policies. Yeah. And yeah, you either
• 59:09
  pass fascist or liberal policies. And that's
• 59:11
  how you can kind of tell based on the moves that
• 59:13
  people are making, like, oh, I think you're actually
• 59:15
  a fascist. And then some people are really bad
• 59:18
  at lying. So once you press them a little bit,
• 59:20
  it gets fun. Do you ever play video games at
• 59:24
  all? Yeah. So that kind of reminds me of that...
• 59:26
  Shit, I just forgot the damn name. It's that
• 59:30
  one with all the little space invaders or whatever.
• 59:33
  And then, I forget the name of it, but there's
• 59:35
  like one or two bad guys and you're trying to
• 59:38
  figure it out. Among Us. Among Us, I haven't
• 59:41
  played that one. It's just like that. Yeah, I
• 59:44
  love those games. I have a two -hour game night
• 59:48
  with my friends and I'm like, oh, I'm healed.
• 59:50
  But being outside, too. Yeah. Putting your phone
• 59:53
  away and literally going and sitting outside.
• 59:56
  Do you take advantage of the paddle boarding
• 59:57
  that's out here? I've gone, but not as much as
• 1:00:00
  I'd like to. Yeah. We're kind of in a rain season
• 1:00:04
  right now, anyway. Yeah. Not really. What the
• 1:00:08
  fuck? I know. Also, comedy here is so late. So
• 1:00:12
  it's like... Yeah. So my sleep schedule is fucked
• 1:00:15
  up. Mine too. And like half the day is gone and
• 1:00:17
  then I get ready and I'm like, well the day is
• 1:00:19
  gone. Yeah, do you ever get like where you just
• 1:00:21
  can't sleep no matter how tired you are? Yeah.
• 1:00:24
  Yeah, I'd get that. I'll come home from work
• 1:00:27
  and then I'll just be like, I don't want to sleep.
• 1:00:30
  I'm like, I want to stay up. Sometimes I'm just
• 1:00:32
  like, I just want to pause. Can I press pause
• 1:00:36
  to life? Can I just take a little break and then
• 1:00:38
  I'll come back? Sometimes I feel like that's
• 1:00:40
  the only, I need to go into a pocket dimension
• 1:00:43
  or something. and then not exist and then come
• 1:00:48
  back. Like I'm not suicidal, but I do wanna not
• 1:00:51
  exist sometimes. Does that make sense? Yeah,
• 1:00:55
  that makes perfect sense. Not to concern anybody.
• 1:00:58
  Yeah, that makes perfect sense. There's times
• 1:01:01
  I just like, man, I wanna like just feel what
• 1:01:03
  it's like to just have it all just stop. You
• 1:01:06
  know what I mean? Like just hit pause, take a
• 1:01:09
  break, just have it all just stop and just feel
• 1:01:11
  that kind of like, you know? And it seems like,
• 1:01:15
  you know, because I follow a lot of like, kind
• 1:01:18
  of like those mental health kind of things and
• 1:01:20
  like those gurus who just try to, you know, be
• 1:01:22
  like, this is what you do to heal. This is what
• 1:01:24
  you do to feel better and shit like that. I'm
• 1:01:26
  like, I don't know where the fuck you're getting
• 1:01:27
  that shit from. I was like, that shit doesn't
• 1:01:29
  work with me, dude. Like, I'm like, I'm fucking
• 1:01:31
  crazy. I felt that way, too. And believe it or
• 1:01:35
  not, sitting outside and journaling and meditating
• 1:01:38
  over the long period of time did help. Because
• 1:01:43
  it's like reframing your crazy thoughts. What
• 1:01:45
  was it about journaling that you found helpful?
• 1:01:49
  Well, because I get so like there's so much going
• 1:01:51
  on that sometimes like it's like analysis paralysis
• 1:01:55
  or executive dysfunction. Like there's too much
• 1:01:58
  going on that I can't do anything. Yeah. And
• 1:02:02
  so getting it all out and out of your head. kind
• 1:02:06
  of clear space in your head. And kind of like
• 1:02:08
  putting it in front of you kind of deal? Which,
• 1:02:10
  yeah, and it allows your brain to kind of like
• 1:02:12
  calm down a little bit. And then once you get
• 1:02:14
  everything out and then you meditate, now you're
• 1:02:16
  extra calm, you have a clear mind. And then I
• 1:02:19
  would practice like, I used to be such a negative
• 1:02:21
  person, like, I remember corporate America, every
• 1:02:25
  time I went into the elevator, people would be
• 1:02:26
  like, how are you? And I'd be like, exhausted,
• 1:02:29
  life is miserable, you know, then the usual,
• 1:02:32
  ah, just another day, like fucking working. Slaven
• 1:02:35
  away for them in this rat race And I met this
• 1:02:40
  girl who was super positive like annoyingly positive
• 1:02:42
  where I was like you don't get it You've never
• 1:02:44
  been through shit in your life. That's why you're
• 1:02:46
  so positive You privileged bitch. That's how
• 1:02:49
  it felt, you know, and then She would be like,
• 1:02:53
  it's just the stories. You're telling yourself
• 1:02:55
  Jamie and everything She was right Yeah, she
• 1:03:03
  was right. And they were the stories I was telling
• 1:03:04
  myself. And so I was like, all right, let me...
• 1:03:07
  Let me... Everyone loved her, and she, like,
• 1:03:10
  had such good energy. And I was like, I'm a miserable
• 1:03:13
  person, and I guess that's showing. So every
• 1:03:16
  time I got in the elevator, even though I didn't
• 1:03:18
  feel that way, and I was lying, people were like,
• 1:03:21
  how's your day going? Amazing. I'm so excited
• 1:03:23
  for the day. Do you have any exciting plans this
• 1:03:25
  week? I love life. I didn't think about committing
• 1:03:30
  suicide on my hour -long commute here. And then
• 1:03:36
  over time, all of a sudden, I was having better
• 1:03:38
  days and those answers became real. And then
• 1:03:41
  I was able to get myself out of bad thoughts
• 1:03:43
  quicker. And I was like, fuck, that bitch was
• 1:03:45
  right. Damn it. Yeah. Damn it. Yeah. Sometimes
• 1:03:49
  I feel like I have OCD, ADHD or something. Because
• 1:03:53
  I can't like... I can't sit and, like, focus,
• 1:03:56
  you know? And I do have, like, that kind of thing.
• 1:03:59
  But I feel like those breakthroughs for me, though,
• 1:04:02
  like, are just, like, right around the corner.
• 1:04:04
  I just have to implement them in my own life.
• 1:04:06
  Every day, too. Yeah. And it's about implementing
• 1:04:08
  them in the moments that's hard, when we don't
• 1:04:11
  want to, and we're like, oh, it's fine, you know,
• 1:04:13
  like the extreme moments. Yeah. Well, that's
• 1:04:16
  discipline. Yeah. You know, just having the discipline
• 1:04:19
  to do it even when you don't want to. Yeah, like
• 1:04:21
  when you're super angry and you want to yell
• 1:04:23
  at someone and then you're like... You upset
• 1:04:26
  me and I feel hurt by your stupidity. I'm sorry.
• 1:04:32
  I'm sorry I feel hurt and upset by your inability
• 1:04:37
  to do the things I'm gonna break something. Yeah.
• 1:04:42
  Yeah, it takes control. But once you do that,
• 1:04:44
  you're like, oh, okay I'm not reacting as much
• 1:04:46
  and getting that angry anymore. Yeah. Yeah for
• 1:04:49
  me like getting getting like what do you call
• 1:04:52
  it? Like getting in touch, I guess, with my anger
• 1:04:54
  and then just like, just really just like identifying
• 1:04:58
  what it is. That was a major breakthrough for
• 1:05:01
  me because it was like, then now I'm like, OK,
• 1:05:04
  now I don't get angry, you know, yeah, just get
• 1:05:07
  disappointed. You know, yeah, I'm not angry.
• 1:05:11
  There was this like line, it was like going around
• 1:05:12
  TikTok where you should say to like men that
• 1:05:15
  like. hurt your feelings and you're not supposed
• 1:05:17
  to say you're mad at them or they hurt you. You're
• 1:05:20
  supposed to be like, I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.
• 1:05:23
  That's a good one, yeah. And then guys are like,
• 1:05:26
  no, my father used to be disappointed in me too
• 1:05:29
  and that's how you cut deep. Yeah, no, it works,
• 1:05:31
  yeah. Because the thing is, is guys are just
• 1:05:34
  natural problem solvers. So if you go to your
• 1:05:38
  boyfriend and you're just like, oh man, I just
• 1:05:41
  can't figure out blah, blah, blah, he's immediately
• 1:05:43
  gonna be like. I got you, babe. Whatever you
• 1:05:45
  need. You know that kind of thing? Because if
• 1:05:47
  my girlfriend says anything, I'm like, dude,
• 1:05:48
  I'm going to build you a new room. Yeah. But
• 1:05:51
  like, but yeah, it's like, so when somebody goes
• 1:05:53
  like, you're disappointed, it's like, oh, shit.
• 1:05:57
  It's like, it's like a hit right, you know. Well,
• 1:06:00
  because sometimes I'm not even mad anymore. I
• 1:06:01
  am just disappointed. I'm like, I'm not because
• 1:06:04
  sometimes I do get upset, obviously, but there's
• 1:06:07
  things that I'm like would have normally just
• 1:06:09
  thrown me for a loop. And now I'm like, I'm able
• 1:06:13
  to identify where it comes from and already to
• 1:06:16
  process it quickly and to go to the next emotion,
• 1:06:19
  which is just like, damn, this sucks. And I am
• 1:06:21
  disappointed because I didn't want this to happen.
• 1:06:22
  And it did. And I'm not going to be mad at you,
• 1:06:25
  but I am going to remove myself or adjust. Well,
• 1:06:29
  sometimes the healthy thing to do is remove yourself.
• 1:06:32
  Yeah, people don't like when you remove yourself,
• 1:06:34
  though. No, no. But, you know, like I think I
• 1:06:37
  guess it comes with maturity, you know, because
• 1:06:39
  I kind of like I remember a time when I was like,
• 1:06:42
  You know, like I remember a time when I was threatened
• 1:06:45
  by that sort of like, kind of removal sort of
• 1:06:47
  thing. But now it's like, I understand. And so
• 1:06:50
  it's a little bit more like, yeah, okay, take
• 1:06:52
  your time. Do what you gotta do. We'll re -discuss.
• 1:06:57
  And then sometimes I have to even teach myself
• 1:06:59
  to stop doing that, you know? It's like, cause
• 1:07:02
  you know, like I want to like latch on and just
• 1:07:05
  be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know?
• 1:07:07
  Yeah, yeah. It's hard, discipline's hard. The
• 1:07:11
  discipline is fucking hard. I'm trying to get
• 1:07:12
  more disciplined. Yeah, yeah, I know. Comedy's
• 1:07:16
  a discipline game. Comedy is a very big discipline
• 1:07:18
  game. A long -term discipline game. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:22
  So, speaking of discipline, did you sign up for
• 1:07:26
  Kill Tony a lot before you got on? No. No? No.
• 1:07:31
  Was it a first, second time kind of deal? It
• 1:07:33
  was a third or fourth time. No shit. I just moved
• 1:07:37
  here. Mine... I was the last person to go and
• 1:07:41
  they just pulled, kept pulling for a woman. Oh,
• 1:07:45
  no shit. Yeah. I didn't even know they did that.
• 1:07:46
  So I got up, but I've signed up a bunch. That
• 1:07:49
  was over a year ago, a year and a half ago and
• 1:07:52
  I've signed up a bunch and haven't got on yet.
• 1:07:55
  So I think it's like, you know, hit or miss.
• 1:07:59
  I just got to keep signing up. Yeah, I signed
• 1:08:01
  up a few times afterwards too and it's the same
• 1:08:03
  thing. It's just like, I got pulled on my first
• 1:08:05
  time. That was fucking crazy. That's great. That
• 1:08:10
  happened to Emily. I think it was her first or
• 1:08:13
  second, and not only was it her first or second
• 1:08:15
  time getting pulled, she was the first pull.
• 1:08:18
  Oh, wow. So she like sat down and they went,
• 1:08:20
  Emily. And I was like, and we were all like,
• 1:08:23
  and she was like, oh, no, I didn't even have
• 1:08:24
  time to like process that I'm here at Kill Tony
• 1:08:27
  signups. That's crazy. I couldn't imagine that.
• 1:08:30
  Me, I was like towards the end of the night.
• 1:08:32
  So I had time to sit there and be like, okay,
• 1:08:34
  what am I going to say? You know, that kind of
• 1:08:36
  shit. Sometimes that psychs you out though. Yeah.
• 1:08:38
  Yeah, it does kind of psych you out. Like I wasn't
• 1:08:40
  expecting to go up when I got polled. We'd just
• 1:08:42
  been like, oh, we're not going to get polled
• 1:08:43
  or whatever. And then I saw the Cowboys playing
• 1:08:45
  and the score was 17 -17, which is my birthday.
• 1:08:48
  And I looked at my friend and I was like, it's
• 1:08:49
  going to be a good night. And then I got polled
• 1:08:50
  like five minutes later and I was like, holy
• 1:08:52
  shit. Yeah. I'm so confused by that. Your birthday
• 1:08:55
  is 17, 17? No, my birthday is the 17th, and I
• 1:08:58
  just saw it twice in a row as a score, and I
• 1:09:00
  was like, it's a sign, because I'm mentally ill,
• 1:09:03
  and it was a sign. So am I mentally ill, or am
• 1:09:07
  I a psychic prophet? Either way. Find out next
• 1:09:09
  week. It's a sign. That's funny. How did you
• 1:09:14
  feel when you walked out? I didn't have time
• 1:09:17
  to think, because usually, this was when it was
• 1:09:21
  at Poor Choices. And you run across through the
• 1:09:24
  alleyway and come up back and usually you have
• 1:09:26
  like a minute I think or two to wait while the
• 1:09:28
  interviews finishing before you go on But because
• 1:09:31
  they had pulled for a while to get a girl Yeah,
• 1:09:36
  that time was taken. So they when I like got
• 1:09:39
  to the back They were like you're about to go
• 1:09:40
  up. Here's your water. Give me your shit And
• 1:09:43
  as I'm like getting to the top of the stage,
• 1:09:45
  they were like Jamie Lee Simmons So there was
• 1:09:48
  no I ran and I was like out of breath open thing,
• 1:09:52
  it's like lights, and I was just like, I'm a
• 1:09:55
  star. And in person, I was waiting for them to,
• 1:10:00
  and this is like a part of, I guess, experience
• 1:10:02
  too. And then I've grown since that time going
• 1:10:04
  on. But for me, experiencing it, it was like
• 1:10:09
  almost like every line was funny, like they were
• 1:10:12
  laughing after every line I said. So I was like
• 1:10:14
  waiting for them to stop laughing to continue.
• 1:10:17
  Yeah. but the mic isn't, or the audience isn't
• 1:10:20
  mic'd, and I wasn't crushing, I was doing good,
• 1:10:23
  but I, like, in person, I was like, holy shit.
• 1:10:27
  And then listening online, I was like, I bombed,
• 1:10:29
  because it sounds like I'm bombing, and it sounds
• 1:10:31
  like I'm waiting for them to laugh instead of
• 1:10:34
  waiting for them to stop laughing, you know?
• 1:10:37
  And I was like, oh, that's embarrassing. And
• 1:10:39
  so now I kind of like, I kind of will just steamroll,
• 1:10:42
  you know what I mean? Yeah, I know exactly what
• 1:10:44
  you mean, yeah. And as they're laughing, I'm
• 1:10:45
  trying to get better at that. But yeah, I was
• 1:10:50
  kind of like, eh, about my minute. Because that's
• 1:10:52
  what didn't look as good as it felt. And then
• 1:10:57
  the interview was fine. It was good. I got some
• 1:11:00
  good clips out of it. And it blew up my OnlyFans.
• 1:11:04
  Oh, yeah? Yeah. It essentially paid for my whole
• 1:11:08
  year. Damn. That's bad ass. Because you get reoccurring
• 1:11:12
  revenue from subscriptions. But I was dealing
• 1:11:16
  with health issues and stuff. So I wasn't like
• 1:11:18
  as active on the platform to keep up with it.
• 1:11:21
  So I'm kind of starting over again. But it got
• 1:11:25
  me through a tough time. Oh, yeah. Well, I couldn't
• 1:11:28
  walk and stuff. Man, that's crazy. But I'm glad
• 1:11:31
  I helped you get through a tough time, at least
• 1:11:32
  like, you know, something did, you know. Yeah,
• 1:11:34
  I'm so great. I was so grateful for getting on
• 1:11:37
  and like the opportunity and. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:11:40
  it is an amazing opportunity, especially like.
• 1:11:43
  I mean, I don't know, when I got on, I was like,
• 1:11:46
  I remember it being like, I was really nervous
• 1:11:50
  and, you know, like, it was something that my
• 1:11:52
  brother wanted to do more than me. And he kind
• 1:11:57
  of introduced me to the show. And so the fact
• 1:12:00
  that I was doing it, I almost felt like imposter.
• 1:12:03
  Like, I was like, I shouldn't be here. It's my
• 1:12:05
  brother who wants to be here. Oh, that makes
• 1:12:07
  sense. That kind of thing. Imposter syndrome
• 1:12:09
  is huge in this industry, too. Oh, yeah. Like,
• 1:12:12
  not feeling, I felt that a lot, because I did
• 1:12:14
  get opportunities because I had social media,
• 1:12:16
  and I am, like, an attractive woman in comedy.
• 1:12:20
  So, like, there were times I did get things for
• 1:12:22
  that, and there were times where, like, no, I
• 1:12:24
  did earn this. Like, that person saw me have
• 1:12:25
  a really good set. Yeah. Sure, maybe they want
• 1:12:29
  to fuck me too, but also, like, I, you can't,
• 1:12:33
  like, totally negate it, you know? So, there
• 1:12:35
  was this, like, imposter syndrome of being afraid
• 1:12:37
  to show up and, like, that I wasn't supposed
• 1:12:40
  to be where I was at or worthy of it. And that
• 1:12:43
  like got to me instead of just staying focused
• 1:12:45
  on like, why am I here and what do I want to
• 1:12:47
  do and focusing on that. Yeah. You know? Yeah.
• 1:12:51
  You know, like that kind of, that kind of thing,
• 1:12:53
  like, you know, like the whole like want, like
• 1:12:55
  people like wanting to fuck you and shit. I feel
• 1:12:57
  like that's only like a female comedy thing.
• 1:13:00
  Like, I feel like men never have to deal with
• 1:13:02
  that shit. Does it make like comedy like that
• 1:13:04
  much harder or like? It's so funny. My best friend,
• 1:13:10
  Zachro is a comic and he's like six, five, good
• 1:13:13
  looking guy. And so he's the only one who, he's
• 1:13:17
  like, no, I totally get your experience. Cause
• 1:13:20
  he experiences that as a man. He like, because
• 1:13:23
  he's a pretty man, I kind of think of like Matt
• 1:13:25
  Rife. You know what I mean? Like where people
• 1:13:27
  were like, fuck you. It's almost like they're
• 1:13:29
  harder on his comedy because he's good looking.
• 1:13:32
  Does that make sense? Yeah. So you guys probably
• 1:13:34
  commiserate with one another. Yeah. So we're
• 1:13:37
  both kind of like, Oh, tough life, being this
• 1:13:40
  pretty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It could be the other
• 1:13:43
  way, where you completely understand why it's
• 1:13:45
  not working out. Yeah. So I think guys do experience
• 1:13:51
  it, not as much. And I think I experienced it
• 1:13:55
  more when I was a newer comic than I do now.
• 1:13:58
  Like I think over time, people are like, oh,
• 1:14:00
  okay, you are a working comic. When I moved here,
• 1:14:02
  people thought I was like a groupie. And I was
• 1:14:04
  like, no, I'm a comedian. No, you're a comedian.
• 1:14:07
  Yeah. No, like you actually put the work in and
• 1:14:09
  everything. Yeah. I mean, no, I mean, it was
• 1:14:12
  badass. It was like, you know, like I said, you
• 1:14:14
  know, I saw your set and the shit was legit.
• 1:14:16
  It was really funny, you know. Thank you. And
• 1:14:18
  it was like I was telling you before, like we
• 1:14:19
  were like, you know, my girlfriend's dad was
• 1:14:21
  even like, like, oh my gosh, I can't believe
• 1:14:23
  you're talking to that, you know, celebrity comedian
• 1:14:25
  and everything. I was just like, I was like,
• 1:14:27
  yeah, she was really good, you know. Oh, that's
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  so sweet. I was like, yeah, she was really, really
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  good, so. So what's your goals? Where are you
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  headed now? My next goal is to develop at least
• 1:14:43
  45. Nice. Something like 25. I focused more on
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  writing the jokes I currently had and I didn't
• 1:14:54
  focus as much on writing new stuff. Because I
• 1:14:56
  was still figuring out what my voice was. everything
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  I wrote was so different. So I was like, let
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  me hone in this so that it's all cohesive. So
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  like, cause at first when I was writing new jokes,
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  it was like, each joke was a different voice.
• 1:15:12
  Does that make sense? It wasn't me saying the
• 1:15:14
  jokes. They were individually jokes. So I was
• 1:15:17
  like, okay, let me rewrite these jokes so I can
• 1:15:18
  figure out my cohesive voice. And now I'm like,
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  I feel I have a good understanding of that. So
• 1:15:24
  now I'm like, okay, let me, and I've been writing
• 1:15:26
  new stuff with that in mind. So one, just be
• 1:15:30
  very writing heavy and get up more, because I
• 1:15:32
  haven't been up as much as I'd like to. Yeah.
• 1:15:36
  And from there, I want to build an audience so
• 1:15:39
  I can go on the road and just start doing headlining
• 1:15:42
  shows in small little cities and breweries and
• 1:15:46
  stuff as I'm growing. Because I feel like when
• 1:15:47
  I'm on the road, I develop so much more. There's
• 1:15:51
  this like... level of confidence when you don't
• 1:15:54
  feel like you're being watched and judged by
• 1:15:56
  your peers, like a little freedom. And here I
• 1:15:59
  feel that judgment. And that's not anyone putting
• 1:16:02
  the judgment on me, it's just me, how I feel.
• 1:16:04
  I don't feel as comfortable to like take risks
• 1:16:06
  on stage, because I feel like every time I get
• 1:16:08
  on stage, it's an audition or something. And
• 1:16:10
  that's probably the story I'm telling myself.
• 1:16:14
  But you know, so when I go on the road or I go
• 1:16:18
  out of town, I'm like, oh, I'm cooking and this
• 1:16:20
  is... I'm feeling comfortable to try shit, and
• 1:16:23
  I just want to be able to get to a point where
• 1:16:25
  I don't need to have this as a home base, but
• 1:16:27
  I don't need it to be on stage. I'm doing my
• 1:16:29
  own thing. But long -term goal, yeah, I'd love
• 1:16:33
  to be like fucking Nikki Glaser and hosting shit
• 1:16:37
  and doing comedy stuff, and I want to be in movies.
• 1:16:40
  I want to do acting as well. Oh yeah, I saw that
• 1:16:43
  with the mob boss. That was an acting reel for
• 1:16:46
  my friend, and I was his plus one. So I had two
• 1:16:50
  shots. I only got like two tries to get the whole
• 1:16:53
  acting reel or whatever, but that got me, that
• 1:16:57
  reel got me an audition for the A24 movie, The
• 1:17:01
  Smashing Hit with Dwayne The Rock Johnson. I
• 1:17:04
  got a talking role audition. I didn't get it.
• 1:17:07
  Another female comic did. And when I saw her,
• 1:17:09
  I was like, that makes sense. I presented myself
• 1:17:11
  too young for the role, I think. Like, yeah,
• 1:17:14
  the way she did it, I was like, oh, I see what
• 1:17:16
  they were looking for. But just doing that acting
• 1:17:19
  reel got me the audition. It looked great. It
• 1:17:22
  really did. And I thought you did great, too,
• 1:17:24
  because I think there was something that you
• 1:17:26
  said in there. I forgot what the comment was,
• 1:17:30
  but it was something like... Like you think I'm
• 1:17:32
  cheating on you? I'm not cheating on you. No,
• 1:17:36
  it was really good. I want to say... Like, you
• 1:17:40
  said something along the lines of, like, this
• 1:17:41
  is my first, like, movie kind of thing, or something
• 1:17:43
  like that, like... It was my first time acting
• 1:17:45
  or doing anything. Yeah, yeah. And I was like,
• 1:17:48
  man, I was like, this is legit. I'm like, it
• 1:17:50
  looks good, which really helps, and everything,
• 1:17:52
  and I thought it was pretty believable. I was
• 1:17:54
  like, man, this is... Thank you. That's really
• 1:17:56
  awesome. Was that, like, crazy to do? Yeah. They're
• 1:18:00
  using, like, movie cameras, and I was, like,
• 1:18:02
  so nervous, and I've never done anything, and
• 1:18:04
  I thought I was gonna have more than two takes,
• 1:18:07
  and I didn't, so... You know, but they focused
• 1:18:11
  on the guy who's real it was obviously but so
• 1:18:15
  it was very nerve -wracking and It was only like
• 1:18:18
  a minute and a half real but we were there for
• 1:18:20
  a couple hours Mmm. Yeah, like a minute and a
• 1:18:24
  half. Oh, yeah, which is crazy. Oh, but Yeah,
• 1:18:29
  I want to get more involved in like comedy sketches
• 1:18:31
  and I think with trauma I said I had an actor
• 1:18:34
  a comedian actor who's on a big I think he's
• 1:18:37
  on insecure or something. He DMed me and was
• 1:18:40
  like, this is really good. And you can like see
• 1:18:42
  it in your eyes. Yes. Like your emotion. And
• 1:18:45
  I was like, and it's, I literally think it's
• 1:18:47
  from growing up with a traumatic childhood. Like
• 1:18:50
  there's a lot of emotion to pull from. Yeah,
• 1:18:53
  there was something. Do you know what I mean?
• 1:18:54
  There was definitely something there for real
• 1:18:55
  though. Yeah. I'm not just blowing smoke. Like
• 1:18:57
  it just, you could tell like, you know, like,
• 1:18:59
  and I was like, I was like, damn, like this is
• 1:19:01
  kind of crazy. And I almost thought it was like,
• 1:19:03
  are you like? I was going to be like, are you
• 1:19:06
  in like an independent movie or something like
• 1:19:09
  that? Or like, you know, is that what it was?
• 1:19:10
  Because I was like, man, it looks like whatever
• 1:19:12
  part this was, it was going to be a big one.
• 1:19:14
  You know, it was just someone's acting reel.
• 1:19:18
  Oh, keep going. Thank you. Thank you. I want
• 1:19:20
  to do more of that. Keep going with that. I wish
• 1:19:23
  that I could have done that. I used to do extra
• 1:19:26
  work and I did like, you know, TV and movies
• 1:19:28
  and things like that. and stuff, but I was just
• 1:19:30
  like a background guy, you know, like nothing,
• 1:19:33
  nothing like actually like on camera, except
• 1:19:35
  for once, you know, ironically, it was an EMT,
• 1:19:38
  which I'm an EMT now. But like, it's just, you
• 1:19:41
  know, but just seeing like, you know, you up
• 1:19:42
  there, like, you know, it's like, it's pretty
• 1:19:44
  cool. But, but yeah, just seeing like, you know,
• 1:19:47
  you actually like, you know, speaking out there,
• 1:19:50
  I was like, that's, that's really neat. And it
• 1:19:52
  looked good. Thank you. You know, I would love
• 1:19:54
  to see it, because I know it said that, This
• 1:19:57
  is before the coloring and everything. And that's
• 1:20:00
  what I do to this footage. And so I'm really
• 1:20:02
  interested to see what the coloring looked like.
• 1:20:06
  Are you able to get that footage? I have somewhere
• 1:20:09
  in my email one of the versions. I don't even
• 1:20:12
  think he ever finished editing it and getting
• 1:20:15
  the final... Let me see. Like the last little
• 1:20:21
  thing of it. But man, so was it something where
• 1:20:25
  he just called you up and was like, hey, I need
• 1:20:27
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• 1:20:31
  all these comics were like, if you do OnlyFans,
• 1:20:33
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• 1:20:43
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• 1:20:49
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• 1:20:54
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• 1:20:58
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• 1:21:01
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• 1:21:05
  the stripper, like we went to the strip club
• 1:21:07
  after, he brought like the strippers, there was
• 1:21:10
  like strippers at that party. He worked at the
• 1:21:13
  strip club and brought them. And he apparently
• 1:21:16
  was a fan of mine, found me on social media years
• 1:21:19
  prior. So he came up to me and was like, I've
• 1:21:23
  been following you, blah, blah, blah. We became
• 1:21:25
  friends, and I had mentioned I'd wanted to do
• 1:21:28
  acting, and he writes scripts and does acting
• 1:21:35
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• 1:21:37
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• 1:21:39
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• 1:21:43
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• 1:21:46
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• 1:21:59
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• 1:22:03
  control and you're in charge, that kind of thing.
• 1:22:05
  I keep dropping my date. I am not in control
• 1:22:08
  or in charge. You know the funny thing about
• 1:22:11
  that is everybody drops something in this motherfucker.
• 1:22:15
  Like the last episode I did, the headphones dropped.
• 1:22:18
  Oh, really? Yeah. The last episode, it was like,
• 1:22:21
  the headphones fell off for shit. Like, things
• 1:22:22
  were falling over. It's just, it's such a mess.
• 1:22:24
  Yeah, I'm a mess. This place is haunted. Let's
• 1:22:26
  see if it's here. Here's my showcase link. I
• 1:22:28
  think I found it. If you want, you could send
• 1:22:31
  that to me, and I could, like, right here, we
• 1:22:33
  can, like, I could post it, like, and have a
• 1:22:36
  play. Oh, shit. If you want. I don't even know.
• 1:22:39
  This was from years ago. That was, like, a couple
• 1:22:41
  years ago. Oh, it was a couple years ago? Yeah.
• 1:22:44
  Oh, OK. Maybe two years ago? Oh, okay. I was
• 1:22:47
  thinking it was like... I think I still lived
• 1:22:49
  in Miami when I did it. I don't think I was living
• 1:22:51
  here. I haven't been three. It was a while ago.
• 1:22:55
  Oh, really? Mm -hmm. Oh, yeah. No, I thought
• 1:22:57
  it was like fairly recent. Um, no. Yeah. No.
• 1:23:02
  Gotta do more. Hell yeah. We got great time.
• 1:23:04
  That was a great episode. Yeah, this was fun.
• 1:23:06
  Thank you for having me. Thank you so much for
• 1:23:08
  doing that. I really appreciate it. Is there
• 1:23:09
  anything you want to put out, too? Yeah, you
• 1:23:12
  follow me at the Jamie Lee Show on all platforms
• 1:23:15
  and stay on the lookout for some other stuff.
• 1:23:19
  Hell yeah. Thank you so much, Jamie. Thank you
• 1:23:21
  for having me. This is a great episode. This
• 1:23:23
  is going to be awesome. It'll be fun.