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The MM EH Show / Faber Glace, Radley Da Silva, Adam Posener, Jennica Wheeler, and Dr. Faisal Rehman · The MM-EH Show

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hello there fight friends and welcome to
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the MMA show the show about Canadian mix
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martial arts and only Canadian mixed
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martial arts this week we'll be joined
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by special guest faberg glass from the
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MMA talk to discuss Battlefield Fight
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League 79 that took place in Vancouver
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last weekend next up we'll have
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interviews with Adam Posner and Radley D
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Silva to talk about their victories at
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that event next up will be Chief
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Operating Officer of Palace Athena
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women's Fighting Championship Jennica
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wheeler and finally we'll have an
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interview with Dr fizal reman a
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nephologist from London Ontario to talk
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about uh Fighters missing weight and
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going to the hospital in Canada in the
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past couple weeks like usual we'll start
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off with fighter and event announcements
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for the past seven days if you want to
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follow along with me pause here and head
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over to m.ca and go to the upcoming
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fight section ready okay let's go
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fighter announcements we'll start off
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with two Canadians who will be fighting
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at B 302 in balest Ireland on March 22nd
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bellator's number four ranked
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middleweight Aaron Jeffrey will be
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taking on number one ranked Englishman
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Fabian Edwards Jeffrey last fought at
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Bellator 298 where he gave formerly
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undefeated Prospect Dalton Ross to his
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first ever loss if the situation were to
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have occurred a year ago it would have
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been safe to assume that Aaron that if
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Aaron won he would replace Edwards in
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the number one Contender spot and will
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be next up to fight Bellator
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middleweight champ Johnny Ean for the
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title but it's not so simple as you know
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the professional fighters League where
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pfl has recently purchased Bellator MMA
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and the two organizations will be having
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a pfl champion versus Bellator Champion
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event on February 24th in Riad Saudi
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Arabia in that event pfl light
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heavyweight champ impa kangan will be
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dropping down a weight class to fight uh
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eelin at 185 and this is where it gets
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interesting Jeffrey and cenan are tight
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like really tight like they call you
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each other brother tight like not bro
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kind of brother but like brother brother
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kind of
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tight Jeffrey and canga trained together
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at Kil Cliff MMA in Florida where
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Jeffrey spends about half of his year
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when he's not training at Niagara top
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team if impa beats Johnny then we may
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have to see an impa versus Aaron fight
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sometime in the future which might pose
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a quandry for the friends but that's not
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an inevitability don't forget that up
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until now the pfl hasn't had a
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matchmaking approach like other MMA
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organizations the pfl has a seasonal
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approach where Fighters work their way
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up a bracket and make it into playoffs
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where finally they end up with two
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fighters who fight for that Year's title
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in that weight class I'm not sure how
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pfl will look after the Bellator merger
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acquisition whatever you want to call it
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uh but once the champion series is
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complete are they going to retain the
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seasonal format or after acquiring all
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the Bellator Fighters are they going to
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be such a large size that they'll have
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to move over to like a more traditional
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matchmaking type of format
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if you know the answer to this please
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leave a comment below and tell us what
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you think and what you know either way a
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Jeffrey and cassen fight might happen at
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some point and if it does those friends
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will have to make a decision the second
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Canadian will be fighting on the
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Bellator Belfast card will be British
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Colombia Jeremy Kennedy who will be
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taking on Ireland's James Gallagher JBC
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as he's known has had a tumultuous year
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his last fight was almost exactly a year
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ago with a unanimous decision win over
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Pedro cavalo but after that he was on
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the waiting list to fight our
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featherweight Champion Patricio Pitbull
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frier but that fight never occurred as
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Fier lost two subsequent fights candy
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was then scheduled for an interim
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featherweight title last December but
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that entire card was canceled and so
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ked's been waiting and here we are now
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here I'll share a quote from an article
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on MMA junky about the Kennedy situation
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quote the pfl Bellator merger has
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brought a lot of uncertainty to Kennedy
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he's not happy with the way things have
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been going and the lack of clarity
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Kenedy is hoping to get an answer soon
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if he doesn't get a title shot he wants
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a big name in the meantime what's
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certain is that he doesn't have much
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interest in the tournament model and
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wants to be a part of matchmaking bouts
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end quote so that sounds like it might
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be a concern for candy and other
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Fighters do they like the champion or
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sorry the the seasonal format I'm not so
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sure do you know if any other Fighters
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like it or don't like it leave a comment
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below early you heard me refer to Candy
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by his nickname of JBC if you know what
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that stands for let us know what you
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think in the comments below and hint you
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may or may not be able to find that
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somewhere on
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m.ca bonus points if you know the story
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and how he got the
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nickname now moving on from Bellator to
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the UFC musoka Ontario's Kyle the
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monster Nelson will be looking to make
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it three UFC wins in a row when he takes
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on Bill alio at the UFC Fight Night
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scheduled for Atlantic City New Jersey
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on March 30th this will be the first
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fight on Nelson's new four-fight
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contract that he was rewarded after his
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recent wins over two really good
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opponents
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finally we have the suplex kid great
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name James Clark who will be taking on
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American Colt Kil basa for the flyweight
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title of a new organization called M2
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MMA in sby stadium in fukat Thailand on
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March
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31st that's it for Fighters now let's
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move on to event announcements breaking
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news yesterday as Battlefield Fight
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League owner Jay goani told MMA doca
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that bfl 80 will be taking place on May
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9th and presumably in Vancouver I didn't
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ask but I think it to
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assume Burlington Training Center BTC
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fight has told MMA that the heavyweight
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tournament that we announced at starting
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at BTC BTC 23 in Kingston on March 16th
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is being pushed back to start in their
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June card date to be announced MMA
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previously brought you the news that new
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amateur Pang gration promotion Norfolk
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Fighting Championship will be having
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their first event in Simco Ontario this
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summer and they have just shared with
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MMA the date for this will indeed be
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August 24th the next scorpion combat
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will take place on April ail 13th with
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scorpion combat 16 I attended scorpion
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15 on Saturday night and we'll be
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talking about that one later okay that's
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it for announcements in this next
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segment we'll be talking about the three
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MMA events that took place in Canada the
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past
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week our friend Faber glass from the MMA
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talk attended bfl 79 Vancouver and I'd
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like to welcome him as our special guest
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to talk about the event welcome favorite
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to the MMA
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show can't believe I finally made it on
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to the MMA show man I can retire right
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now and my life is is complete
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everything that I could accomplish has
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been
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accomplished H what an honor to be here
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thank you so much Andy for having me man
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it's always a pleasure to to talk to you
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my friend what a character thank you
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Faber that's really kind you to say yeah
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if you want you can be on episodes
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number three four five six and seven and
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whatever we'll see but anyway so you
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like whenever man you you know me you
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tell me place and time and I'll do the
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best that I can I know it yeah it was
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tough to to get each other in BC I don't
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know why my my cell phone reception was
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uh was bugging on me but finally I'm
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back home and we're ready to talk about
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these fights that's awesome because you
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you've got a passion from the sport that
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is almost unrivaled you love everything
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about it especially m in Quebec but uh
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you love it all so I'm really glad that
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you're here so you just said you were in
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British Columbia so that was imagine my
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surprise when during the event about
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Battlefield Fight League I sent you a
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message I said hey are you watching
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watching bfl and you sent me back a
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picture from backstage it was of
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somebody a fighter getting their their
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hands wrapped or something so what were
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you doing in BC and and what was what
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was uh your experience like at
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bfl yeah what was I doing in BC I was
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just living life man you know uh when
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Maxim sui told me that he was going to
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fight on February 8th I looked at the
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plane tickets they were very unexpensive
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because I don't think it's the ey season
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like February in BC it rains all the
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time so I don't think it's the ey
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tourist season or whatever so I just
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bought PL tickets because I got some
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family in in Vancouver so I can pretty
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much go whenever I want uh so I I use
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the occasion to to to have a little trip
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for myself and for bfl is a great show
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man it's it's very a great show I was
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there for the second time I've been
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to was it
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77 the one last year when Maxim Susi
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beat niik and got the the interim title
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which was a stacked show also lots of
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title fights honestly if I had to
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compare my experience of course I
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preferred this time like the the event
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was insane the venue is is great the way
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that it's built I like the the the two
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floors and the concept of the fighters
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that go down the stairs before their
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walk out it's cool you got some if you
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got ACC access to upstairs which I have
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thanks to Jay and the old bfl team you
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get some great viewpoints of the of the
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the action from there and you don't have
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to be like in the crowd and trying to to
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sneak your way into a place where where
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you can see
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well and no like generally you can see
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that bfl like they got 79 events in the
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book shows they know what they're doing
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it's a very smooth running show and it's
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just I love all the guys back there I
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met Jay plenty times he's he's a he's a
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good guy I'd even say a friend of mine
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we went out for dinner a couple of times
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here and there of course David Showtime
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per is one of my guys Fela and the guy
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who introduced me to the gym where I
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train when I'm in BC so I I go there get
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to see some people that I like and I
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don't get to see often and enjoy some
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some amazing fights man so was just
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great all around wish I was still there
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that's the only issue but that's for
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another day that's one of my favorite
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Parts about attending MMA events in
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Canada is that as you go around from
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place to place show to show you run into
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people you run into people that you've
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known for a long time you've run into
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people that you're close with you run
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into people that you may have chatted
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with on the internet but never met in
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person it's just I I love it the whole
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time so one of
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absolutely yeah one thing I noticed
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right off the bat I've never attended a
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bfl live but uh right off the bat on the
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pay-per-view or sorry on UFC Fight Pass
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I noticed when the event started it
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seemed like it was empty like there was
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nobody in the seats and I realized the
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show starts at 4:30 p.m. on a Thursday
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and do you have any sort of awareness on
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why that happens why it starts so early
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and why on a Thursday like the like the
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event filled up over time because I
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think people were still at work when it
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started yeah mostly people were were at
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work or like slowly getting towards the
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venue uh for the
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time honestly probably it was due to the
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number of fights on the event like there
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were like they had to do some postlims
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basically to to to fit everything in so
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that I think that's why they started
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that early I don't think last time it it
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was that early uh but uh yeah I think
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that's probably because of the the
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number of fights there was on the event
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that it started that that early because
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yeah and and for the day of the week
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that's the question I have to honestly
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because bfl they they've did some shows
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on Wednesdays on Thursdays like usually
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it's Friday or Saturday it's the day
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that make the most sense so I I don't
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know why they they keep doing events
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during the week but like you said the
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the place filled up and there was a good
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crowd uh at the end so I guess
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successful event for them so if you can
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do it on a Thursday like that probably
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not the busiest day on UFC Fight Pass
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like you don't have super big
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competition or whatever so maybe that
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that boosts the the ratings or whatever
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I don't know but yeah that that's that's
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a good question to to maybe ask Jay or
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someone from bfl yeah like why why
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they're doing events during the week
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well I didn't mind it actually um and I
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like the fact that it was over um you
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know I'm in Ontario right now which is 3
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hours later than BC and even though uh
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you know I think it was over pretty
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earlyish for me I wasn't up all night
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watching the event so that was good okay
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let's move on to uh now the actual event
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unless Sor did I cut you off were you
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gonna say something you look like you're
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gonna say something okay all right let's
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move on the actual always got something
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to say but sometimes it's better to not
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say
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things because I I I could talk for I
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could talk for five hours here man but
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uh okay let's go on now let's talk about
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the actual event we'll start off with
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the
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undercard uh no so before we even get to
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there I know that you were flittering
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around you were going from place to
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place did you get to watch a lot of the
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fights or were you busy backstage doing
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certain things or how'd that work yeah
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honestly man outside of Samurai when I
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go to events I rarely watch the fights
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to be honest is there because first I
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often want to shoot a vlog and I've I've
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come to to see that what people like to
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see the most is the backstage stuff it's
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like oh like let's say there there's a
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one time I come into a room and there's
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into one of the locker rooms and there's
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a TV and like watching the fights all
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together there like J MJ Achilles
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Tristan Conelly Deon Rafael wet like a
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full lineup of like BC Legends basically
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and they're all there just chitchatting
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and watching the fight so that's the
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footage that the people love to see so
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that kind of prevents me from paying
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good attention to the fights there were
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some fights that I absolutely wanted to
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sit down and watch and honestly I didn't
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get to sit down and watch all the fights
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that I wanted to but I got to watch the
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the maxim main event of course and Adam
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Posner was was one of the ones that I
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sat down to watch that's why I'm kind of
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a little sad that I missed him but I
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can't wait to see what he had to say
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I'll rewatch The episode for that for
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sure awesome well why don't we talk
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about the maxim Su fight then since
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that's the one you saw you you've uh got
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a close affiliation with Maxim Susi
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being a fellow Kea and you basically
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went out there uh to support him
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partially anyway so he was fighting
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Radley to Silva for the bfl
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featherweight champion at the time Maxim
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had the interim uh belt and Radley was
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the Challenger and Radley ended up
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winning um tell me what your thoughts
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were on that fight yeah of course Maxim
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is a close friend of mine that I always
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like to say this before I I go on with
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my thoughts because sometimes like you
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don't want to be biased but you kind of
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are either way and like I I love the guy
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he's he's a close friend of mine so of
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course I didn't enjoy the fight at all
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but honestly I don't think I'm the only
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one to be honest and you got to give all
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the props to Radley like the guy knew
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what he had to do Maximus is a dangerous
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Striker Radley is a very good Striker
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too but like why take the risk to do
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that when you think that you're
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physically stronger than the other guy
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so so he he looked for one take down
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around and then he was on top and he
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stayed like head low IPS low everything
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super low to the detriment of actual
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damage or submission attempts or like
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honestly Maxim sui wouldn't have to do
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much to win these rounds even though he
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got controlled that much on the ground
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because like in the end Radley was
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controlling a lot but was not scoring
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with much like I can remember once or
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twice land did a good elbow or did some
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things but like did not look to pass the
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guard that much was really controlling
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and like if you're able to control like
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that for 25 minutes you're gonna win the
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fight but let's say the fifth round
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where he struggled a little more on the
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takedown and Maxim was Landing some uh
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Travis Brown elbows and stuff I was like
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just that makes it a closer round than
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it should be for Radley just because
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he's not having much offense but uh now
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clearly he was physically stronger than
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than Max and he he's become a very good
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Grappler too like for a guy who's known
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for scapa and everything the guy has
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become a very good Grappler and I think
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it's primarily what he does right now
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and uh forc to admit that it's a good
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game plan and he absolutely dominated
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that fight and he deserves to be the
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champion he's still early in his career
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though so it's something you like to see
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from somebody who's still young in his
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career and who hasn't like he fought
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against maon but before that he hadn't
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fought in a very long while yeah so I
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think he's still kind of getting his
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feet back wet so I expect big things
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from Radley I think he's a very good
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fighter and like he could give us like
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exciting finishes and everything but for
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that fight he he took the very strategic
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pth and he just won the belt and like at
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the end of the day that that's kind of
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all that
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matters yeah that's the struggle that
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people have when we talk about fights
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like this I mean fans always want the
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exciting fights but the exciting fight
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and the standup striking war that people
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like seeing or even like a like a
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high-paced grappling match that's not
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always necessarily the smartest thing
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for the fighter because you want to win
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the fight so if you have a way that you
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can dominate or you can put yourself in
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a in a winning position without taking
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any damage or without it really being
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dangerous as
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dangerous maybe that's a smart thing to
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do and that's what Radley did he
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repeated it over and over and over he
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would close the distance he would clinch
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take Maxim to the cage and then he would
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either uh press him there or he would
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scoop him up take him to the mat and
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there was one big huge slam I remember
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that was thrilling to watch and you know
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I believe yeah I think so it was it was
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early and that's what he did and he
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controlled the fight he controlled Maxim
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and now he's the champion I hope um you
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know you don't want to see every fight
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like that like uh there been Fighters
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have been cut from the UFC because Dana
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White didn't like that all they did is
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they pressured up against the cage and
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that's all they did uh so you know
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that's a strategy but that's that's
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still later on his career maybe to sort
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of figure out with his coaches um I know
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he can do the Striking like even right
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off the bat he did that spinning capera
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kick where it just his leg whipped
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around so fast and capera is really
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amazing when it's done
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well and uh Radley's team at a capera
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with his uh his family have been doing
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it for years and they're probably well
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without a doubt the best in Canada so
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yeah I don't know I guess we'll have to
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see what's GNA happen with the next
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one not for sure and uh like it would be
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hypocritical to go here and say ah this
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fight sucked ass whatever whatever when
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we were there cheering for five rounds
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of GSP doing that almost every fight
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yeah
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yeah I didn't want to say any names but
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anyway
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I I texted withas name yeah sorry man
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it's the easiest name to say yeah know
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GSP is the easiest name to say in that
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situation because
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like he gave us some amazing fights but
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like some of the GSP fights were very
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lackluster and I feel like people tend
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to forget that with like the Legacy and
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everything so I'll just hope for Radley
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that we'll forget that fight in the end
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and like the the guy's probably Prime
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for a good career if he wants to be
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serious in MMA and
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really keep being active so uh props to
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him and he's de champ and he deserves it
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absolutely one thing to point out for
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the for the people watching who who may
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not train have never grappled or wrestle
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before is that some of them might look
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at what Ry did and take Maxim to the
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cage and hold him up against there and
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they think oh that's easy man I could do
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that you Pro you probably couldn't do
19:31
that it's it's not easy it's not like
19:33
you're holding a sack of potatoes Up
19:34
Against the Cage you're sa you're
19:36
holding up a a living breathing being
19:39
who is skilled in their trade and knows
19:40
how to respond to you so to hold them
19:43
there or even when you're in top
19:44
position on top of the mat holding
19:45
someone down is not always the easiest
19:48
it's one thing if you weigh 400 pounds
19:50
but if you're of equal weight and the
19:52
other person's strong and they know
19:53
Jiu-Jitsu it's not easy to hold them
19:55
down so don't think that this was an
19:57
easy thing for for Radley to do it was
19:59
it was probably the smart thing for him
20:00
to do no it's so tough man because
20:04
there's like a different cardio for
20:07
everything and these guys they need to
20:09
be able to do all of that easily and
20:12
that that's just makes it so tough like
20:15
I I do Jiu-Jitsu I can do 85 rounds of
20:18
jiujitsu if I wanted that that's what I
20:20
do
20:21
but but when my my coach's son is
20:24
preparing for MMA fight and I got to put
20:26
the gloves on and just just grapple do
20:28
nothing else just get on top of him and
20:31
grapple with him and try to hit him in
20:33
the face after five minutes I want to
20:35
die I I'm absolutely gassed out so the
20:38
the fact that these guys they're of
20:40
course they they train at it so they get
20:42
good at it but to think that doing this
20:44
is easy that he just laying on a guy is
20:47
easy there's so many variables so many
20:49
different things that you got to be
20:51
aware of because Maxim sui is a high
20:53
level Grappler I think he's a purple
20:56
belt like I won't assume is rank but
20:58
like I believe a purple belt or like the
21:01
equivalent of a purple belt in Jiu-Jitsu
21:03
so like the guy's an advanced Jiu-Jitsu
21:05
player so if you you you're not on your
21:07
p's and q's on top of him like he's
21:09
gonna sweep you he's gonna get back up
21:12
you're not going to be able to keep your
21:14
position so it's tough to do that like
21:17
people don't and the cage grappling is
21:18
even worse that's the that's the most
21:21
grueling thing probably of all the
21:23
phases of MMA is the cage grappling even
21:26
though it's not the the best part to to
21:29
look at it's it's absolutely the the
21:32
toughest and the most grueling part of
21:33
it all for sure there's when you're up
21:36
against the cage there are consequences
21:37
to every move if your opponent knows
21:39
what they're doing if you move the wrong
21:40
way or if you put your hips in the wrong
21:42
direction and your foot in the wrong
21:43
spot you're you're either winning a
21:45
position or you're losing a position so
21:47
you have to be very
21:48
careful yeah you can even get H with the
21:52
cage yeah do you ever see uh I
21:56
just go ahead I just saw an event I
21:59
attended on Saturday night and that you
22:01
know people's backs get jacked up
22:03
against the cage you know the rash
22:04
against it so it goes away after time
22:06
and it looks really nasty when it
22:07
happens yeah no it's bad for toes it's
22:10
bad for like you sometime you step like
22:13
on the edge of the mat and it kind of
22:15
Curves with with the cage a little bit
22:17
and there's there's kind of a little Gap
22:19
where you can get you can stick a toe in
22:22
there and and urge yourself pretty bad
22:23
and like it's not injuries that affect
22:26
fights but it happens all the time
22:28
Fighters get get get their get like foot
22:30
injury because of of the cage basically
22:33
what were you thinking when Maxim had
22:35
that uh Guillotine choke or Guillotine
22:36
choke on
22:38
Radley I think it was tight I think it
22:41
was very tight and uh I I I know that
22:45
Maxim and his team like they think there
22:46
was like a phantom tap at some point and
22:49
they even sent me footage and yeah
22:51
Radley Pro probably does what resembles
22:55
a tap but he only does it once and
22:57
everybody knows that like that's not
23:00
like when somebody Taps out he Taps out
23:02
it's not just like yeah one he was
23:04
probably just trying to grab something
23:06
and Max move so he kind of tapped on him
23:09
so but yeah the the choke was tight for
23:11
sure the the choke was tight for sure
23:13
and you could see it from Radley's
23:15
reaction uh the the the way that like he
23:17
stayed calm in it but there was a point
23:19
that he had to be a little urgent
23:20
because probably was starting to to to
23:23
to to breathe in not a good way and
23:26
maybe was even seeing a little bit of
23:28
stars and
23:29
everything from where I was watching on
23:32
on Fight Pass Radley's neck was extended
23:35
a lot it was really stretched out and I
23:37
thought it was possible it was going to
23:38
be uh it was going to be over for him
23:40
but you got to give him credit man like
23:41
he he fought through it and he put his
23:43
body into a different position and and
23:45
took off that pressure yeah Max did
23:48
really well when Radley tried to let's
23:50
say B bend in a so that is his old back
23:53
is almost like vertical and Max was able
23:56
to to keep his grip super eyes so the
23:58
head didn't slip out so they both
24:00
adjusted a couple of times within that
24:03
sequence and Radley had the final
24:06
adjustment that that was able to to get
24:08
him out of the choke so yeah that that
24:10
was some nice stuff from boat okay well
24:13
I spoke with or I texted uh bfl owner
24:16
Jay Goan yesterday and he confirmed to
24:18
me that the next bfl number 80 will be
24:20
on May 9th uh we don't have any
24:22
confirmed matchups yet or who will be
24:24
fighting although last night on uh
24:26
Instagram the bfl official account put a
24:29
whole bunch of Stories on there with
24:31
different potential Fighters and
24:32
different story lines to start
24:34
considering so I'll delve into that
24:36
today and and take a look and see what I
24:38
think is going to be on the 80 card and
24:39
when I asked Radley about it he said uh
24:42
that he doesn't even want to wait that
24:43
long that's only a few months away uh he
24:45
said he wants to get back in the cage
24:46
and start fighting like as soon as he
24:48
can so I guess we'll see what
24:50
opportunities come his
24:52
way yeah of course and with the like
24:55
some of the promotions working together
24:58
uh passing Fighters around we might see
25:02
him in let's say in Eastern Canada or in
25:04
Quebec or in onario for BTC or whatever
25:07
we we just never know nowadays I
25:10
mentioned that in last week's show how
25:12
I'm really enjoying how there seems to
25:13
be a Unity between Canadian MMA
25:16
promotions specifically bfl Samurai and
25:18
UniFi they're sharing Fighters oh i s uh
25:21
Fight League Atlantic as well they're
25:23
letting their Fighters go elsewhere to
25:24
fight even if they're under contract and
25:27
you know years and years ago when I
25:28
first started covering the sport that
25:29
never would have happened so I'm I'm
25:31
really enjoying it I know me too I come
25:34
from the TKO days where when Stefan
25:36
patri would block guys from going to the
25:38
contenders because it's not the UFC so
25:41
we've come a long way for sure man yeah
25:45
do you uh now I since you said you're
25:46
close to Maxim can you share your
25:48
thoughts uh he he put a post on
25:51
something some social media platform I
25:52
don't remember which one it just showed
25:54
that he he acknowledges the loss he
25:56
seemed like he was in a good attitude
25:58
in in good spirits and he's got a great
25:59
attitude he knows he lost the fight or
26:02
he says he lost lost the fight and he's
26:04
going back to training and he's going to
26:05
keep at it that's all a professional can
26:07
do right like you can't win every fight
26:09
so the only thing you can control is
26:11
your attitude when you
26:12
lose yeah H the three Montreal guys were
26:15
in pretty good spirits honestly I was a
26:18
little worried for Tyler Wilson for a
26:20
little while because he wasn't saying
26:22
much but then I I kind of by talking to
26:24
him figured out that I think that that
26:26
just the way he is he's not guy who
26:28
talks all the time and when you got
26:30
like Lis anakis there and Cedric Lo all
26:34
that there's there's plenty guys to say
26:36
plenty stuff Tyler doesn't need to be
26:38
there and talking all the time but yeah
26:41
him Victor and Maxim they like they both
26:44
they all lost but they all they all can
26:46
see how they lost and what they should
26:48
work on and for Max I I used to have
26:52
this conversation with him because he
26:55
always say I like I really want to go to
26:57
the UFC but I wish that I can have at
26:59
least 10 Pro fights before I get there
27:02
and I I used to say I feel you man
27:06
but if the UFC calls you like if you win
27:09
your next fight and you're the champion
27:11
if the UFC calls you and you're seven
27:12
and one you can't tell him no you can
27:15
say oh no I want to wait because the
27:17
opportunity the opportunity might never
27:20
come again and I think that this fight
27:23
yes it's a loss it's not a bad loss
27:25
because he he lost to a very good
27:27
opponent
27:28
and kind of pushes back the the UFC opes
27:33
for now which probably leads him to
27:36
having at least 10 Pro fights before he
27:37
gets there so maybe the plan is working
27:40
all along of course you don't want to go
27:42
there and lose fights that it's not the
27:44
way to get to the UFC but I think it was
27:47
maybe going a little faster than Max
27:50
would have hoped it went so I think this
27:54
kind of slowed everything down he might
27:57
be um able to to to to do what he wanted
28:00
to do all along in the end and yeah like
28:03
he he's in good spirits like he got
28:06
control he knows what happened he knows
28:08
what he needs to work on it's like it's
28:10
not like it's a super close fight where
28:12
you're there at the end and like what
28:13
have I done run why did I lose this
28:15
fight got dominated four five rounds on
28:18
the ground there's like there's no
28:20
ambiguity there he knows what he needs
28:22
to work on and he's going to work on
28:24
that and he's going to be
28:26
back well we'll be here to watch him
28:28
when that happens and you brought up a
28:31
good point about being ready for the UFC
28:34
and I know I I had a friend who used to
28:35
fight in the UFC his name was Ryan jimo
28:37
and he always told me before he got in
28:39
the UFC amazing guy thanks yeah he was a
28:42
he was special that's for sure um he
28:46
used to mention to me before he got in
28:47
the UFC that he didn't want to go to the
28:49
UFC and and be just a guy who had a
28:51
certain skill set and lost his first
28:54
couple fights because there's killers in
28:55
the UFC he wanted to get to a spot where
28:57
he knew he was radiant and that's what
28:59
happened he was finally eventually able
29:01
to get in the UFC and he did well in
29:03
fact as USA debut he won the record for
29:05
the fastest ever KO uh in UFC history a
29:08
seven seconds against uh what's that
29:10
Australian guy's name it'll come to me I
29:13
I I used to like him a lot that
29:15
Australian guy too I'll find it for you
29:17
Elvis sinos no not Elvis sosc elv no
29:21
that's is no no it's like theopus or
29:25
something like that he he had fun
29:30
nickname yeah I'm having a brain for
29:32
anyway jimo used to say that he didn't
29:34
want to go to the UFC and not be ready
29:35
so per Ro Anthony per I Anthony per yeah
29:39
yeah just before I took that apology I
29:42
just remembered the Anthony per Ro yeah
29:44
okay good call thanks man for saving me
29:47
um but yeah makes me wonder I don't know
29:48
are there any Fighters out there who
29:49
have delayed their entry into the UFC uh
29:52
because they knew they weren't ready if
29:53
if you know anybody watching maybe post
29:55
a comment down below and just let us
29:56
know what you think think it'd be kind
29:58
of cool to know I think it's smart like
30:00
I I wonder it's probably the smart thing
30:02
to do but you're right I you know if
30:04
they don't take it what if they lose
30:06
their next fight or two do they lose an
30:07
opportunity forever um maybe it's not a
30:10
I know a lot of guys want to get to the
30:11
UFC but I don't know do you want to get
30:13
there and and you know go 0 and three
30:15
maybe not I don't know I'm not sure yeah
30:18
I think back then it was maybe a little
30:21
easier to to do that nowadays the roster
30:24
is so like right now the roster is full
30:27
and need to cut guys to make plays for
30:29
other guys and almost all of the guys
30:31
that they sign either they sign them
30:34
from the contender series or they guys
30:37
that fought on the contender series that
30:38
didn't get signed but got another fight
30:40
one and then they get signed so they're
30:43
kind of building a a path towards the
30:46
UFC that everybody kind of has to go
30:48
through so if they come calling I I
30:51
think you you better just say yes and
30:53
hope that you're ready and like we've
30:56
seen some great UFC fighters have weird
30:59
beginning to their UFC careers but they
31:01
they're they able to to stick around and
31:04
and make it work in the end and become
31:06
contenders so yes it's tough to to to to
31:10
grow as a fighter in the big leagues but
31:13
like if that's what you got to do I
31:15
think it's better that than saying no
31:17
and then something tragic happens and
31:19
you just never get there yeah good point
31:22
Fair Point okay let's talk about uh my
31:25
fight of the night Awards or my my uh
31:28
event Awards and let me see if you agree
31:30
with me but you didn't said you didn't
31:31
watch all the fights so I gave I
31:33
rewatched everything on Fight Pass after
31:35
though so I okay i' ju I did that just
31:38
for you Andy thanks man appreciate it I
31:41
wanted to come ready the MMA show come
31:43
on come on all right so I gave two
31:46
fights of the night I gave one to the
31:47
main card and one to the undercard the
31:49
main card I gave Ali waso defeated Tyler
31:52
Wilson submission re nicked choke in the
31:54
third round uh you mentioned Tyler was
31:56
in in
31:57
okay Spirits again as well that was a
31:59
really close fight man they both looked
32:01
good they both had their moments right
32:02
off the bat Tyler like caught one of
32:04
alli's kicks and dropped them to the mat
32:06
right off the start the fight so it was
32:08
competitive and Ali end up winning the
32:10
fight and I think it's uh I I think when
32:12
I take a look at giving a a fight of the
32:15
night award there were other really good
32:17
fights like one another uh one guy that
32:19
came out with you is Maxine bordage
32:21
against Mitch Trella that was my
32:23
Contender my other Contender for the for
32:25
the fight of the night but when I look
32:27
at something like that I sort of have to
32:29
look at the position of the fight as
32:30
well and and the gravatas of it so um
32:34
Ali and Tyler fighting for a
32:36
championship that just added an extra
32:38
level to it and that's why sort of went
32:39
their way with fight of the
32:41
night it was a great fight strategic
32:44
fight but great fight like good
32:46
exchanges and you can see that both guys
32:48
are are skilled and like you got to be
32:51
happy for Ali wazu who just never says
32:55
no to the toughest fight he's always
32:57
there on every bfl event in a prominent
32:59
spot fighting against a great opponent
33:01
and I think from the get-go the the guy
33:04
was kind of seen as a future bfl
33:07
champion and everything and he he had
33:09
his losses against Siri but he finally
33:12
he got his hands on gold and so I'd give
33:15
it up to Stella and bordash if I had the
33:17
choice but honestly if I I I had to give
33:21
a fight of the night for like let's say
33:23
the all card the all the pro fights
33:25
prelim or main card basically I cheat
33:29
and I give fight of the night to either
33:32
Martin Guzman or Gil mzuma and I'd give
33:35
the other one The Knockout of the knif
33:37
that's what i' do okay I know it's with
33:40
one round fights or one minute fights
33:42
but how crazy were these one minute
33:45
fights yeah there's some good Knockouts
33:47
I gave knockout of the night to Jaden
33:48
Martin he uh defeated Luis Guzman with
33:51
with a knockout 31 seconds into the
33:52
fight and I don't know if you did you
33:54
did you see that live or did you watch
33:56
it in the replay oh yeah yeah yeah I was
33:58
watching with Isaiah M and it was it was
34:01
crazy man cuz when I heard that on Fight
34:03
Pass man that sounded like a
34:04
sledgehammer hitting a piece of concrete
34:06
holy moly that was
34:07
hard yeah and Jayden was hurt like very
34:10
early in that fight and he had to like
34:12
for a 30 second fight you see the result
34:14
you're like ah this guy destroyed the
34:16
other guy oh no there was a old living
34:18
and ped into 30 seconds it was yeah for
34:21
sure insane insane fight okay uh
34:24
undercard fight the night I gave it to
34:26
Roman only defeated Michael T it was a
34:29
really good fight it was fantastic back
34:31
and forth um yeah it was good really
34:33
good fight I don't know if you got a
34:34
chance to see that one unfortunately I
34:37
didn't it was a it was a knockout punch
34:40
in the second round as well for Roman
34:42
tone and uh bfl said yesterday on the
34:45
Instagram that Roman's gonna go
34:46
professional now so next fight should be
34:48
as a
34:49
pro that's good to know okay uh
34:52
submission of the night now this is
34:53
where people uh disagree with me but I
34:55
gave submission of the night to Rodrigo
34:57
cando defeated Scotty Stockman with a
34:59
rear naked choke at 304 of round one uh
35:03
Rodrigo looked really good he was in
35:05
backpack for quite a while on Scotty for
35:07
at least a couple minutes was really
35:09
smart with it he wasn't tarring out his
35:11
legs he put them in good position and he
35:13
was able to get the choke and it just uh
35:15
it was like he went in there and you
35:17
know quick night at the office for
35:19
him not good performance uh I I had my
35:23
worries about the Scotty stman uh
35:27
because of his record honestly his
35:29
record was good but if you take a look a
35:33
closer look at his record he like he did
35:35
not face good competition like 18 and 52
35:39
14 and
35:40
36 uh 22 and 25 so I I was wondering is
35:45
the guy just like basically a can
35:47
crusher and he's gonna get destroyed by
35:49
by Rodrigo but he looked like a decent
35:52
fighter he looked like he had something
35:54
to to to give but sand do is is very
35:57
good man he's super impressive generally
36:00
and I totally enjoy this performance I'd
36:03
have to give this a mission of the night
36:05
to to to I'mma Be I'mma Be A sellout
36:07
once again but come on then Powell River
36:11
Jujitsu that's where you need to be if
36:13
you want to learn the the craziest if
36:15
you want to be a Canadian Diaz brother
36:19
you got to be a wellet brother man I
36:21
love these two guys so much and the the
36:23
way that Nick had to follow through with
36:25
the guillotine get The Sweep switch for
36:28
the grip because the guy wasn't tapping
36:30
from the arm and guiltin so he had to to
36:32
get his hand all the way through and
36:33
adjust to the like power mod modified
36:37
Power guillotin like without the without
36:39
the arm it was it was good it was a nice
36:42
submission so that would have been my
36:44
pick honestly but that was a good one
36:47
yeah good candidates I think uh on this
36:50
card play plenty guys could have won the
36:51
submission of the night okay I didn't
36:54
give an award for an oh my God award of
36:56
the night but my oh my God moment of the
36:58
event was when Navid zenan got rocked at
37:01
the start of his fight and he went to
37:04
zombie mode and he just like his body
37:06
stiffened up and he was holding on to
37:08
the opponent and he just wasn't moving I
37:10
thought he was maybe dead for a second
37:12
just tongue and Shake not really uh but
37:14
he came back recovered and he won his
37:16
fight and I was just incredulous the
37:18
whole time that was absolutely
37:20
incredible did you get a chance to see
37:21
that one yeah I had a chance to see that
37:24
one and like I don't want to be here and
37:27
like do a an awful generalization of
37:31
like oh these people do these things but
37:34
we've got our own Iranian wrestlers that
37:37
fight for Samurai like Med zidan and
37:40
we've had Javan ma who's a judoka but
37:43
was Iranian Mustafa Sal another
37:46
heavyweight was a an Iranian wrestler
37:49
and these these people are insane man
37:52
they're insane they fear nothing they're
37:54
not programmed to to to to fear anything
37:57
they're not programmed to lay down for
37:59
anything so to see Navid get dropped
38:02
like that and just wake wake back up
38:05
basically like nothing happened cuz I
38:07
think he he got knocked out man but he
38:09
he probably woke up when he hit the
38:11
floor and then like got beat up a bit
38:14
but then still got the reversal and
38:17
started beating on the other guy almost
38:18
instantly so no this guy's a zombie he's
38:22
super impressive but like I said I don't
38:24
want to say like Iranians are insane and
38:26
they're they're they're impossible to
38:28
kill but all the Iranian Fighters are
38:30
know I know are insane and are
38:32
impossible to kill and are yeah super
38:35
skilled at wrestling and grappling
38:37
generally and super athletic and like
38:41
they just got the mindset too so I think
38:43
naid has everything to become like an
38:45
elite MMA fighter honestly if and he's
38:48
got the good training too he's got a big
38:50
team behind him so uh you love to see
38:52
this honestly and you would think that
38:54
anybody who's going to sign up to fight
38:56
him next time is going to watch that and
38:58
they're going to think oh my God maybe I
38:59
shouldn't be fighting this guy because
39:01
if if you want to beat him it's not
39:03
going to be easy and you have you have
39:05
to you have to beat him because he's not
39:06
gonna give up ever just look at the
39:08
Xavier Nash fight like how tough was
39:11
that for both and Xavier pulled it
39:13
through but like Xavier is like one of
39:15
the five six best lightweights like that
39:18
are active on the Canadian circuit
39:20
Xavier Nash is like one of the elite
39:23
lightweights for sure yeah for sure
39:27
okay I'm taking a look at my notes and
39:28
see if there's anything uh no I think I
39:30
think uh oh I guess we should have
39:32
mentioned this in the Ali wuk fight but
39:35
after the event uh after the fight was
39:36
over I think uh Darcy McBride was
39:39
speaking with him and asked uh a
39:40
question you know who's next or what's
39:42
next for you do you want to fight one of
39:43
a one of the next bfl contenders and Ali
39:46
said something to the effect of no
39:47
honestly I'm looking past them you know
39:49
I'm past that now and he said quote give
39:51
me a big [ __ ] name unquote so I think
39:54
Ali has SES on a bright future he wants
39:56
to go places and he's said he's he's
39:59
ready for for a big name and a big
40:01
opponent big possible payday that can
40:03
bring him to the Big
40:05
Show no of course the the the guy is
40:07
eight and three is too like
40:11
only lo I don't want to take anything
40:14
away from Kirk say it was a split
40:15
decision in his first ever Pro fight in
40:19
MMA like how many Elite Fighters lost
40:21
their Pro debut I know lots of them so I
40:25
I I I don't think it's that's uh
40:28
something very important honestly but
40:30
then he lost to series City twice he's
40:33
eight and three the guy is there man he
40:36
knows that he's there he's got the the
40:38
record that will be conductive to
40:40
getting a shot at a contender series or
40:42
something like that so he knows like if
40:45
he's able to to fight another big name
40:48
uh either like one of the the the big
40:51
Canadian guys in this division but
40:53
they're pretty much all fighting
40:55
elsewhere like outside of Canada like
40:58
the the Xavier aloise and guys like that
41:01
he could fight Luis andz but I I think
41:04
Louie is um is not active enough to be
41:07
on Ali's radar so if bfl could bring uh
41:12
like an elite guy they're good to find
41:14
some very good guys from the USA I think
41:17
uh the the Michael kesa connection makes
41:20
it that they they're they're recruiting
41:23
like in the Washington state area and
41:25
the or even Oregon and Northern
41:27
California and they they often bring
41:29
some good talents from the states so I'd
41:32
find a guy from the states with a with a
41:34
good record and that fought good
41:36
competition to to to get to fight Ali
41:39
and that that could probably be alli's
41:41
last fight here might very well could be
41:44
very well could be and you mentioned
41:46
that Ali had lost twice to Siri City for
41:48
anybody watching who doesn't know Siri
41:50
city is one of the best in Canada and he
41:52
just had his USA debut on January 20th
41:55
in Toronto at USC 297 uh sir he got
41:58
robbed that's what happened there got he
42:00
got he got robbed I think it's it's safe
42:03
to say that
42:05
98.15% of everybody saw that fight
42:07
thought that Siri won uh although the
42:10
the
42:11
175 that disagreed were the judges so
42:15
just go on Google and Google Siri City
42:19
versus Ramon tavas MMA decisions and
42:23
look look at the scores pretty
42:25
straightforward fight
42:26
score sir he came out on top though too
42:29
in a way in that he he he opened up a
42:31
lot of eyes to who he is he got his nose
42:33
broken early on the fight face covered
42:35
in blood it was like a murder Zone in
42:37
there and he just fought through it it's
42:38
like it didn't even happen to him he
42:40
just went hardcore and still fought and
42:42
I think he made a lot of fans that night
42:44
and I I think my perspective is I'd
42:46
rather lose a fight and do really well
42:49
and have everybody think I'm a [ __ ]
42:50
Warrior than to win a fight and just
42:53
have everyone think oh that was a boring
42:54
fight I never want to see this guy again
42:56
no of course funny thing about that
43:00
Diego Lopez lost his first fight to moar
43:03
of course he was GNA lose to mzar
43:05
everybody loses to mzar but after that
43:08
fight he did so well that people wanted
43:10
to see more Diego Lopez and since then
43:12
he he's on a ter in the UFC and he was
43:15
there in the corner of calb mzuma who
43:18
defeated gag and Gil and man like the
43:20
Mexican all the Mexican Fighters were
43:23
like waiting in line to take pictures
43:25
with him as soon as he he left the cage
43:28
people in the crowd trying to stop him
43:30
from like following his fighters to the
43:32
to the
43:33
Medicals because they wanted to take
43:35
picture with him like this guy is a
43:36
basically a superstar it's rare that
43:38
like there's often UFC fighters at local
43:41
events because they coach their to
43:43
attend or whatever rarely they get the
43:45
attention that Diego was getting and the
43:47
guy was in Vancouver is like Mexican and
43:50
Brazilian so not really close to home
43:52
and still everybody in in in the place
43:55
wanted to take pictures with him so yeah
43:57
often you you losing a fight the way
43:59
Siri lost his fight can do more for him
44:02
than winning a like a lackluster
44:05
decision that nobody remembers after two
44:07
weeks yeah Faber I I have to tell you
44:10
that I'm I'm a little bit in danger with
44:12
you right now because if it was up to me
44:14
we'd be here for their four hours
44:16
talking about every little tangent that
44:17
we go off on and I can't really do that
44:20
I'd love to talk more about Diego Lopez
44:22
and Caleb but we will talk about Caleb
44:24
mzuma I saw him fight as and Diego lupz
44:27
Lopez is with him at Prospect fighting
44:29
championship last year Caleb defeated
44:31
Michael Anda in in a good fight it was a
44:33
fair fight and Michael impr is no joke
44:35
he is a he is a stud and he he's gonna
44:38
beat the crap out of most people he
44:40
fights Caleb looked good and he looked
44:42
good again at at bfl so you know if they
44:44
bring him back that'd be awesome to see
44:46
it'd be nice to see that Mexican
44:47
Connection because a lot of times
44:49
Mexican Fighters are brought up to these
44:51
local shows because these local shows
44:53
are having a really difficult time
44:55
finding opponents you know there's
44:57
there's a lot of shows in Canada now
44:58
there's a lot of fight events going on
45:00
so there's not enough fighters to go
45:01
around in all the events in Canada plus
45:04
you might have like teammates and you
45:05
don't want teammates fighting teammates
45:07
so a lot of Mexicans are coming up and
45:09
quite frankly a lot of Mexicans are
45:11
losing uh Caleb is one of the few that
45:14
is is finding success up here and doing
45:16
well so I was happy to see it quite
45:18
honestly and uh I hope they were able to
45:20
bring him
45:21
back yeah absolutely and uh emperado is
45:25
going to the Enders man so that win on M
45:28
Zuma's record is is amazing and he's 12
45:31
and four now clearly he's got a team
45:34
that's connected with the UFC if he's
45:37
with Diego Lopez that mean he trains
45:39
along with like some of the greatest
45:41
Mexican Fighters men and women that
45:44
there is so the guy like he he's
45:47
probably G A gonna get his chance one
45:50
day or another but yeah if this guy can
45:52
come back and keep fighting in front of
45:54
us like all the m zumas and the lpos
45:57
like the elite Mexican Fighters that we
45:59
get to see here I want all of them and
46:01
it's always the guy that I end the guys
46:03
that I end up getting along the the best
46:05
with I know do yeah yeah I love the
46:07
Mexicans man the Mexicans and the NT
46:11
guys all right all right fa let's wrap
46:14
this up uh before we let you go why
46:16
don't you take a minute and just talk
46:17
about the MMA talk and what's going on
46:19
with you with
46:21
that oh man we we keep doing our thing
46:25
man I don't got like anything special
46:28
coming out we got the ioke podcast on
46:30
every Sunday it's in French like
46:32
unfortunately you guys I welcome you all
46:34
to listen don't know if you're goingon
46:36
to understand much but uh you can give
46:39
it a try that that'd be cool for sure uh
46:42
and yeah man that's about it we're
46:43
looking forward to uh what's coming next
46:46
I think UNIF fight is it 56 or 65 I'm
46:50
kind of lost with the numbers but next
46:53
unified event yeah it's looking pretty
46:54
good we just uh saw the the full lineup
46:57
come out recently so we'll be looking
47:00
forward to every event keep uh covering
47:04
the fights man giving a platform to
47:05
these Fighters and I but yeah Andy man I
47:09
really got to give you your props man
47:10
because I'm not always the most positive
47:13
guy honestly and like I just call it
47:15
like I see it and sometimes man I just
47:18
don't see the good in things but the way
47:20
you're always honest but also positive
47:23
you always find a positive spin on
47:25
everything and it's just refreshing
47:27
because there's lots of negativity in
47:28
the world of MMA in my opinion and to
47:31
have people like you that like man your
47:33
passion just shows you like that that
47:36
stuff so much you give so much of your
47:38
time to cover these events to attend
47:40
these events to talk to the fighters
47:42
give them a platform and like your work
47:45
your work is greatly appreciated man we
47:47
need people like you you've always been
47:49
like you're OG of of this stuff man but
47:52
the way that that you're back now and
47:55
like
47:56
more present than ever almost it's
47:58
amazing man for for for everybody in the
48:01
MMA Community really man you're you're a
48:03
big part of it all and that's why I'm
48:05
I'm always so happy to come on your show
48:07
man I feel like we all need to to push
48:10
this stuff up together and like you're
48:12
you're one of the main characters for
48:14
sure man well fabra it's it's uh you're
48:17
really kind I appreciate you saying
48:18
those words I think maybe we can be like
48:20
like bfl unified and Samurai we can
48:22
share and we can go on other people's
48:24
shows and prop each other up and and
48:25
help grow this thing so uh that's my
48:28
thoughts on
48:29
that all right Faber thanks for your
48:31
time appreciate my man and fans I highly
48:33
encourage you to check out faberg glass
48:35
on YouTube and other social media
48:37
platforms the MMA talk the ipoke podcast
48:40
all great things make sure you log in
48:42
and check them
48:44
out well that was fun you got to say
48:46
that Faber is quite the character and I
48:48
love him so awesome thanks again
48:51
favor and we are now joined by the new
48:53
bfl featherweight champion Radley to
48:55
Silva Radley welcome to the MMA show and
49:00
congratulations thanks so much and
49:02
thanks for having me
49:03
again oh it's it's my pleasure man so
49:06
you're just a few days removed now from
49:08
your Victory how are you feeling right
49:09
now tell us your
49:12
thoughts um I'm feeling good the the
49:14
body is feeling good obviously after a
49:16
long training camp and even a 25 minute
49:18
fight little bumps and bruises here but
49:21
luckily I was able to take uh no punches
49:23
to the face so still looking good my
49:26
daughter's not scared to look at me so
49:27
I'm
49:28
happy that's good to know Charles your
49:31
thoughts on on the fight how'd it go
49:32
with uh former interim Champion Maxim
49:35
Susi I mean it literally played out to
49:38
the tea exactly how I imagined it even
49:41
down to the last moment of the fight um
49:44
I knew that he would be dangerous even
49:45
till the last second so I was taking it
49:48
seriously but at the same time I I just
49:49
knew exactly what I was going to do in
49:51
there man like I said I was going to
49:52
break him I was going to make him
49:54
extremely tired and by the fourth and
49:56
fifth rounds were I was going to feel
49:58
the most uh comfortable and uh it was it
50:00
was that's exactly right A lot of people
50:02
forget I just don't have much cage time
50:04
in there you know I I know I have uh
50:06
some good wins and now I'm the champ but
50:08
and I've been training forever but at
50:10
the same time being in the cage it's
50:12
like it's a different uh it's a
50:14
different thing to be comfortable with
50:15
so I feel like every time I get in there
50:17
I'm just ex I'm just happy to be able to
50:19
get the time in there and uh grow in the
50:21
cage as well so I'm I'm overall happy
50:24
with the performance like I said the M
50:26
performance I was really frustrated
50:28
myself I didn't get to finish with this
50:29
one I'm not I'm not too frustrated and I
50:31
feel like it'll help me be able to to
50:33
grow and work on the things I need to
50:35
without being so cluttered mind of uh
50:38
too emotional so I feel like I'm happy
50:39
with performance 5045 basically across
50:42
the board one judge gave him one round
50:45
but I mean I don't count that as a loss
50:47
of just one judge gave him one round so
50:49
50 45 across the board complete
50:51
domination didn't take one single punch
50:53
um he maybe had 30 seconds of success so
50:56
in a 25 minute fight took walk out
50:58
unscathed and completely dominating like
51:00
that what what else more can you want
51:02
other than a finish
51:04
so what you said about the cage time is
51:06
accurate and I've heard it uh many times
51:08
before from other Fighters that there's
51:10
no substitute for being in a cage
51:12
against somebody who's trying to hurt
51:14
you I mean training is training it's
51:15
great training of course you need it and
51:17
you can put in all the training you want
51:19
and all the years you want but there's
51:20
no substitute for that time when the
51:23
when the door closes and there's only
51:24
three of you in there one of them's a
51:26
referee yeah for me specifically it's
51:29
more it's more the Striking just being
51:31
comfortable in the Striking just knowing
51:33
that I have the eyes to get out of any
51:35
any situation and the reflexes I just to
51:37
trust my reflexes my natural reactions
51:40
to because I have I've been I've been
51:42
striking forever too and it's just uh
51:44
but it's different like you said to be
51:45
in the cage and by the fourth and fifth
51:47
round is when I started to feel more
51:49
most comfortable and started to let more
51:51
shots off on the feet but it's like I'm
51:53
only going to get more and more
51:54
comfortable and EXP to see even greater
51:56
much greater performances on the feet I
51:58
talked to my teammates too you know guys
52:00
was like 10 plus fights and they were
52:02
even telling me they they didn't feel
52:03
comfortable uh striking until like maybe
52:05
their like eighth or ninth fight that it
52:08
takes it takes a while to get
52:09
comfortable in there so I feel like I'm
52:11
still learning on the job and uh what
52:13
what what better way can you do it other
52:15
than completely dominating a guy the way
52:17
I did so uh I can't be too upset with my
52:20
performance at the end of the day it was
52:21
a complete master class on on MMA and I
52:23
know going into the fight a lot lot of
52:25
the talk is who is the better mixed
52:27
martial artist and I clearly proved I
52:29
can put it together at a much higher
52:31
level uh coming into this fight Maxim
52:34
was really well known as a striker he
52:36
has a strong karate background good
52:37
punches good kicks and you really
52:39
nullified that whole thing and you close
52:41
the distance and you didn't give him
52:42
space which is something he needed was
52:44
that the game plan going
52:46
in yeah the game plan going in was
52:48
obviously uh I knew his best weapon like
52:51
I told you was a kick right and uh he
52:54
just he he you could clearly see he
52:56
didn't want to throw it after being
52:57
taken down one time and feeling me on
52:59
top uh like I said most guys they think
53:02
oh yeah he's just laying there on top
53:04
but it I'm telling you the fact that he
53:07
even made it a few rounds without
53:09
without quitting just from the top
53:11
pressure is uh good on him because when
53:13
I get on top of you man it's a it I
53:14
don't even have to punch you it's a
53:16
world of hurt and uncomfortability like
53:18
you can see he was trying his hardest to
53:20
stay composed and not over exert himself
53:23
but I I just when I'm laying on top of
53:25
you is very uncomfortable I'm putting a
53:27
lot of pressure on your chest and your
53:29
stomach and making it really hard to
53:31
breathe so you you can't just lay there
53:33
and accept it and so you end up having
53:34
to spend all this energy trying to get
53:37
out of really uncomfortable positions
53:38
and that's when it it slowly starts
53:40
taxing you and that's what I was I
53:42
already said I was going to do that to
53:43
him I was going to drown him into deep
53:45
water and I feel like I I did I did tell
53:48
everyone I have I had a point to prove
53:49
about cardio because that narrative man
53:53
was like I don't know why I've never
53:54
been slightly annoyed about something
53:56
going into a fight um the way I was
53:59
about that whole cardio narrative
54:00
because like I can go I can grapple one
54:03
round for like an hour straight without
54:05
even stopping like I do hourong rounds
54:07
just one round of grappling for an hour
54:09
and like 25 minutes is nothing as you
54:11
saw like I wasn't even breathing hard at
54:13
all at the end of it I was uh yeah I was
54:15
fully aware and yeah I just wanted to
54:18
prove that I I can grapple hard and will
54:21
have no worry about cardio so now it's
54:22
going to be it's going to be a little
54:24
tricky finding fights because not many
54:25
guys can do that for five rounds right
54:28
so I know guys are going to look into
54:29
that and be like can I keep up with his
54:31
cardio now so that's going to be the The
54:33
Narrative going into my next fight is
54:34
can can my opponent keep up with my
54:38
cardio I say it all the time that it
54:40
takes a fight watching a whole fight uh
54:42
for its entirety to get answers to
54:44
questions about certain Fighters right
54:46
and I think after 25 minutes there's
54:47
certainly a bunch of questions about you
54:49
that were answered and the cardio is is
54:51
a big one of them you've put that to
54:52
rest now so that's that's good I guess I
54:55
guess uh the next bfl is going to be May
54:57
9th bfl number 80 you said you didn't
55:00
even take a punch to the face and you're
55:01
feeling great and last time we spoke you
55:04
ALS also mentioned you want to really
55:05
start being more active inside the cage
55:07
and getting that cage experience so is
55:09
that a possibility for you to think or
55:10
is that still yet to be decided I'm I'm
55:13
trying to find a fight before May I'm
55:14
I'm trying to look for something for
55:16
maybe late March early April I I like I
55:19
said why would I why would I hang out on
55:21
the sidelines if I didn't take any
55:23
damage uh I'm ready to take a fight
55:25
short notice 155 I I don't I don't need
55:27
to do a a whole 8we Camp because I'm in
55:29
shape at all times you know I took I did
55:32
a whole 8we camp this time just because
55:33
there a title fight five rounds you know
55:35
you don't want to leave any stone
55:36
unturned but I know I can do three
55:38
rounds in my sleep like I literally
55:41
train every day already so I don't need
55:43
to do a whole eight-week camp and you
55:45
know arrange everything for a short
55:46
notice fight I can I can take a short
55:48
notice fight
55:50
whenever well that's good to hear Radley
55:52
I'm looking forward to seeing you get
55:53
back in there and it is Sunday and I
55:55
heard your family in the background
55:56
including your six-month-old little
55:58
daughter sounded so adorable uh just
56:00
congratulations on everything I'm going
56:01
to let you get back to them thanks a lot
56:03
for your time I appreciate it I
56:05
appreciate you having me and uh I'm sure
56:06
we'll be talking again real soon Adam
56:09
Prime Time Posner welcome to the MMA
56:11
show how are you I'm not too bad Andy
56:14
how are you I'm doing well and you know
56:16
you must be you know have quite a lot of
56:18
humility because you said you're not too
56:20
bad when reality is just a few short
56:22
hours ago you won your professional mix
56:24
Marti art debut at Battlefield Fight
56:26
League 79 uh in Vancouver in impressive
56:29
fashion so are you sure you're just
56:30
doing okay yeah I'm doing I'm doing
56:33
pretty well um obviously it was a very
56:35
quick fight so I didn't really get to do
56:39
as much as I would have liked but again
56:41
um if that's a problem you're having
56:42
that's a good problem to have so overall
56:45
I'm happy with the
56:46
performance yeah I think a lot of people
56:48
were impressed with your performance I
56:49
know I certainly was one person who
56:52
might not be overly impressed with your
56:54
performance and this is kind of tongue
56:55
and cheek so don't be worried who is uh
56:57
on guard BJJ is that your coach yeah
57:00
that's my jj2 coach Matt pa okay I'm
57:03
gonna tell you what Matt posted on
57:04
Instagram he
57:06
said Adam put his opponent to sleep with
57:08
a well-placed katakami last night at bfl
57:11
and his Pro debut in under a minute few
57:13
fighters in the city can do what this
57:15
kid can do at 170 pounds in the cage and
57:18
on the floor I'm requesting that his
57:20
next opponent be at least competent on
57:21
the ground because if they aren't there
57:23
really is no point in making the fight
57:25
Adam hasn't even had the chance to show
57:27
a fraction of his skill set in his
57:28
fights in Brackets hasn't needed to and
57:31
it's time he gets tested he deserves a
57:33
tough and talented opponent next who
57:35
will be able to handle this young Phenom
57:37
at
57:39
170 that's uh so he's got a pretty
57:41
strong opinion I mean I know you're
57:42
happy you won the fight but it sounds
57:44
like he's pretty dissatisfied I mean is
57:46
there really a rush uh at this point in
57:48
your career to be to be finding super
57:50
tough opponents or isn't it fair that
57:51
you should need like a like a building
57:53
up period it's I think it's fairly
57:55
relative I think like the opponent that
57:58
I fought last night was the appropriate
58:00
fight you know he was a he was also a
58:02
young fighter from Mexico like similar
58:04
to me he was undefeated as an amateur so
58:07
I essentially considered it as you know
58:08
the best 19-year-old in Canada me versus
58:11
the best 19-year-old in Mexico we fought
58:14
and I put on an impressive uh
58:16
performance and yeah no I'm just you
58:18
know I was happy with the fight I got to
58:19
show a bit more my skill set you know
58:21
just just little sprinkles each time so
58:23
each time we're going to show a little
58:24
bit more and it's only going to be
58:26
getting better from here uh well I'm
58:28
glad that I'm a fight fan I get to watch
58:30
you get better from here um you you know
58:33
once again there's the humility you talk
58:35
about your your burgeoning career people
58:38
just uh seeing you right now for the
58:40
first time might not realize you
58:41
actually had an amateur career as well
58:42
so you went five and0 as an amateur and
58:44
four of those were by submission I think
58:46
and one KO TKO so with your pro win last
58:50
night with a sub with a submission that
58:52
makes six fights six finishes which is
58:55
100% finishing rate you have to feel
58:57
good about that too yeah that feels
58:59
great I mean again through if as an
59:02
amateur I showed again very limited
59:05
skill sets uh because I believe I had
59:07
four submissions one TKO and they were
59:11
all rear naked chokes so I was glad to
59:13
be able to show a different method of
59:15
finishing an arm triangle showing that
59:17
I'm well versed in both positions where
59:19
we're facing each other versus when I
59:21
get their back and I showed that last
59:23
night I can do
59:25
more than just a re naked
59:27
joke well at this point it's it's kind
59:30
of too early to to to know as a pundit
59:33
to know where you're going to go because
59:34
when you analyze Fighters especially
59:36
young upcoming Fighters you you and I
59:38
mentioned this recently with somebody
59:39
else that you have to be able to see
59:41
this fighter answer certain questions
59:43
like how do they do against a really
59:44
good Striker how do they do against a
59:46
really good ground guy how do they do in
59:47
the clinch we haven't seen a whole heck
59:49
of a lot from you but that's not your
59:51
fault I mean you're doing what you have
59:52
to do so I mean do do you think there's
59:54
anywhere or anybody at your skill set
59:56
that can challenge you yeah I mean I
59:59
feel like as an amateur coming up I feel
1:00:01
like I've fought guys who on paper are
1:00:04
good but I just feel like I've fought
1:00:07
the right way to beat them and I fought
1:00:08
the perfect way to beat them and I feel
1:00:10
like I executed that very well uh six
1:00:12
for six so far and as for an opponent
1:00:15
that would you know who's next I don't
1:00:17
really know um again when they're when
1:00:20
you're a professional under you know
1:00:21
three fights two fights one fight uh Pro
1:00:24
debuting there's not really it's hard to
1:00:26
know so again I'm I'm fairly open you
1:00:29
know we'll see who we get and we'll go
1:00:31
from there do you have a contract with
1:00:33
bfl I do yes how many more fights to go
1:00:38
uh so I had a four fight deal and then
1:00:40
it was my first fight on last night so I
1:00:44
have three more nice now I think off the
1:00:46
top of my head without looking so I I
1:00:48
very well might be wrong I think the
1:00:49
next bfl event will be in April do you
1:00:51
know if you'll be on that
1:00:52
one uh I heard May 9
1:00:55
okay yeah you're probably I I heard bfl
1:00:58
80 May 9th so um even if it was April I
1:01:01
would do it um but May 9th for sure and
1:01:05
um yeah no we'll see we'll go from there
1:01:08
and yeah just take to the top well uh
1:01:12
yeah whatever happens I'm sure it's
1:01:14
going to be exciting and you're going to
1:01:15
do well again so before we get going I'm
1:01:17
gonna ask you sort of funny tongue and
1:01:19
cheek sort of question last night
1:01:21
something on the broadcast happened that
1:01:23
was pretty funny when and you walked out
1:01:26
to the cage for your fight and the
1:01:27
commentators were saying this is Aso
1:01:29
Palani this is him fight and the other
1:01:31
guyy saying no that's not ASO that's
1:01:32
Adam and they were exping back and forth
1:01:34
what was going so you actually walked
1:01:36
out a fight early what was the story
1:01:38
there so we were in the dressing room
1:01:41
and so basically like the bfl lineup
1:01:44
they had it formatted a bit differently
1:01:46
than usual usually cuz like the original
1:01:49
plan was or at least that I thought the
1:01:50
prelim start at 4:30 you have the under
1:01:54
the pro fights undercard fighting at 6
1:01:57
and then you have the UFC fight pass at
1:01:59
7:30 so usually they start like a little
1:02:02
bit behind because you know they play
1:02:03
the promos and whatnot so I thought it
1:02:05
was maybe going to start 440 but they
1:02:07
actually started 4:30 so Props to them
1:02:10
um yeah so there was four amateur fights
1:02:13
because two amateur fights got moved to
1:02:14
the end so there were the four amateur
1:02:16
fights and then I because I knew I would
1:02:19
fight six because I knew there was the
1:02:21
four amateur fights there's asos's fight
1:02:23
and then me but then ASO actually told
1:02:26
me in the back he's like your fight five
1:02:28
and I'm like oh what I need to get taped
1:02:30
up and ready to go so I'm like I'm taped
1:02:33
up ready to go and then I I told the guy
1:02:35
I'm like are you sure I'm fight five
1:02:37
because I think I'm fight six they
1:02:38
looked at the poster and because like
1:02:40
bfl posted the Instagram poster yeah and
1:02:43
then I'm like there this lineup's not
1:02:45
right and I I was trying to say that and
1:02:48
then the director's like yeah we got to
1:02:50
go you're fight five so then I went down
1:02:52
walked through the cage and then I'm
1:02:53
like in the inspection Zone and
1:02:55
everything and then the um the Vaseline
1:02:57
the Vaseline guy um said this isn't your
1:03:00
fight and I'm like knew it so then I
1:03:03
went back up and then now I'm like okay
1:03:05
now we can take our time a little bit
1:03:06
and then the ASO fight happened and then
1:03:09
my fight happened shortly after I wonder
1:03:11
what the the the aso's opponent who was
1:03:14
waiting in the cage was thinking when he
1:03:15
saw you walk out was he looking at you
1:03:17
and going this isn't the guy I'm
1:03:18
supposed to be fighting what's going on
1:03:20
here I can just imagine the Panic yeah I
1:03:22
didn't really take it too seriously cuz
1:03:23
I knew it wasn't my guy either so I mean
1:03:26
um I think there was like I knew I knew
1:03:28
something was wrong I knew that like
1:03:30
even if it was my opponent like either
1:03:33
either they switched it like right on
1:03:34
the day or they maybe both got it wrong
1:03:38
and they're just like whatever but
1:03:40
either way I mean it was pretty funny
1:03:42
that they mixed it up so yeah I hope you
1:03:44
don't song was wrong and everything well
1:03:46
Adam I I'm so sorry I apologize for
1:03:48
chuckling I just found it so funny but
1:03:50
most importantly were you thrown off on
1:03:52
your fight did it affect you any way
1:03:53
whatsoever
1:03:55
uh I didn't think anything of it because
1:03:57
I mean again I knew something was wrong
1:04:00
cuz my walk out song wasn't right the um
1:04:03
again I don't know if you've been to the
1:04:05
a bfl event but like usually they have
1:04:06
like the Jumbotron and then they have
1:04:08
like a photo of the two fighters on the
1:04:10
sides of it and it was ASO and his
1:04:12
opponent so I'm like okay so I'm like
1:04:15
this is not my fight either the
1:04:17
production's wrong the director's wrong
1:04:20
or I'm wrong so I'm like you know I'm
1:04:23
going into my Pro debut I'm like I guess
1:04:25
this if I'm fighting then um but I
1:04:28
ultimately was right and then I told the
1:04:30
director I'm like come on now I told you
1:04:33
so so yeah know that was that was
1:04:36
totally me but yeah know either way I
1:04:38
mean we went out we fought watched the
1:04:39
card awesome card awesome
1:04:42
fights okay uh Adam that's all I have
1:04:44
for you my man I just want to
1:04:45
congratulate you on a very impressive
1:04:47
performance one and0 as a pro is there
1:04:50
anything you'd like to say before we
1:04:52
go um yeah just keep tuning in to my
1:04:55
fights if you want to see some electric
1:04:57
finishes you know you're going to see
1:04:58
new sprinkles every time so um be on the
1:05:03
be on the watch for that thanks Adam all
1:05:06
right bfl took place on a Thursday night
1:05:08
and the next night on the Friday night
1:05:10
we had Havoc FC 17 from Red Deer Alberta
1:05:13
this was a combination MMA and bare
1:05:15
knuckle fighting event and you saw my
1:05:17
interview with Lee me and last week
1:05:20
first off let me say one name Keith
1:05:22
[ __ ] Crawford
1:05:24
uh hardcore Fighting Championship is a
1:05:26
name that you might not remember but
1:05:27
back in the day it was a fight promotion
1:05:29
here in Canada and Keith was the lead of
1:05:31
that he's also a former professional
1:05:33
fighter he's had MMA F I think one MMA
1:05:36
fight and some kickboxing fights so
1:05:38
whenever you see him it really makes me
1:05:40
happy and uh it's good to have him a
1:05:41
part of any event all right cor we're
1:05:45
gonna start off with the amateur fights
1:05:47
uh there was one fight that didn't take
1:05:49
place it was announced Tyler Stickley
1:05:50
versus Curtis Anderson I'm not sure why
1:05:52
that didn't happen for first fight was
1:05:54
Ray Lee defeated Tristan McMartin it was
1:05:56
a unanimous decision next up we had Alex
1:06:00
sundek defeated Saleem zafari with the
1:06:02
unanimous decision 29 to 27 time three
1:06:05
uh one notable Point Savari was deducted
1:06:08
a point for his mouthpiece coming out
1:06:10
three times I don't know if it's true
1:06:12
but to me it looked like zafari was
1:06:14
purposefully spitting it out to try to
1:06:16
get the ref to stop uh and you know
1:06:18
that's not always a guarantee the
1:06:19
referee has discretion when fights like
1:06:21
this happen so if you're a fighter and
1:06:23
your mouthpiece comes out accidentally
1:06:25
often times the referee will uh stop the
1:06:28
fight to let you put it back in but
1:06:29
usually low wait till a break in the
1:06:31
action so it's it's fair you don't want
1:06:33
to penalize your opponent because your
1:06:34
mouthpiece came out uh and if that did
1:06:37
happen a fire spinning it out that's not
1:06:39
cool uh try not to do that again um next
1:06:42
up we had
1:06:43
Ahmad [ __ ] defeated Matt Watson in a
1:06:46
split decision and finally Shan Carroll
1:06:49
defeated dat Le with a liver kick TKO in
1:06:51
the second round I've never actually
1:06:54
being uh uh I guess staggered by a liver
1:06:58
kick but the ones who people have told
1:07:00
me it's happened to them it's
1:07:02
debilitating I guess it shuts everything
1:07:03
down and you can't move so hopefully I
1:07:06
never get hit with a lever kick like
1:07:08
that so I feel bad for dat Lee but uh it
1:07:10
was a good win for
1:07:11
Shawn all right moving on to
1:07:14
professional MMA we had Bal nazari
1:07:16
defeated Jamie Ingram elbows from the
1:07:19
top position uh watching the the fight
1:07:22
chat for this it was uh a lot of people
1:07:24
soon as Jamie came out they said he was
1:07:26
going to win and I didn't think he was
1:07:28
going to win or not win I didn't know
1:07:29
that's why you have the fight but I
1:07:31
comment in the chat saying you know have
1:07:32
you guys ever seen balal fight because
1:07:34
he's no joke he's tough and he showed
1:07:36
that he is a such an excellent fighter
1:07:39
and he won the fight so good job below
1:07:41
next up we had Jacob Guerrero defeated
1:07:43
Andrew Marsen with strikes TKO in round
1:07:45
one 28 seconds it was a fast fight and
1:07:48
sometimes you get caught right so the
1:07:50
fight was over quickly moving on now to
1:07:53
professional MMA may we had Jason
1:07:54
Douglas defeated Lee mean TKO ref
1:07:57
stoppage in round three this was a
1:07:58
fantastic fight uh they announced that
1:08:01
as the first ever bar knuckle fight in
1:08:03
Canadian MMA history or I think they
1:08:05
said it was a sanctioned bare knuckle
1:08:06
fight I'm not so sure that's true I know
1:08:08
there was a bare knuckle fight in
1:08:11
Lethbridge a couple years ago I'm gonna
1:08:13
say 2021 I'm not really sure um but
1:08:16
maybe that wasn't sanction I'm not
1:08:18
entirely sure if you know you can leave
1:08:19
a comment below in the notes uh down
1:08:21
below and just uh uh educate us
1:08:24
all right next up we had James dzil
1:08:26
defeated Joshua luser and that was over
1:08:29
pretty quick was inside of a minute with
1:08:31
round one luser had a pretty nasty
1:08:34
looking cut on the lip and the doctor
1:08:35
stopped the fight you never like to see
1:08:38
fights end due to a due to a cut it's
1:08:41
pretty crappy to be honest but it is
1:08:43
what it is next up we had calasia who
1:08:46
just fought at
1:08:47
unified MMA had a bare knuckle fight
1:08:50
against Josh kitchen this was also a
1:08:52
good fight you know
1:08:54
fighting can be fun when you're training
1:08:56
and you you know you've got a a friendly
1:08:58
opponent so to say uh but bare knuckle
1:09:01
fighting I don't know it's it's uh it's
1:09:03
a little bit scary to me still I don't
1:09:04
know if that's just my attitude if you
1:09:06
if you guys feel the same but um you
1:09:09
know something about no gloves no
1:09:11
padding on your hands just hitting you
1:09:12
right in the face because that's really
1:09:14
how you how you can knock a guy out
1:09:15
quickly is through a a hit to the face
1:09:18
uh Cal looked good defeated Josh it was
1:09:20
a good fight finally we had graceon
1:09:22
wealth defeated Steve Ro TKO doctor
1:09:24
stoppage at two minutes of round one
1:09:27
once again another bare knuckle fight
1:09:29
that uh you know went went how it went
1:09:32
and Grayson got the victory I would not
1:09:34
want to be in the receiving end of a of
1:09:35
a man a big man like Grayson his his
1:09:37
strikes or uh Steve Roy as well uh there
1:09:41
you go yeah it was it was a good event I
1:09:43
think the next Havoc is already
1:09:45
scheduled so if you go to the upcoming
1:09:47
fight section at MMA you can see when
1:09:48
that's going to happen and it will also
1:09:50
be in Red Deer oh one thing I I don't
1:09:52
want to forget in fight number four Matt
1:09:56
Watson was attempting a submission at
1:09:58
one point and the commentators were
1:09:59
saying it was an Oma plada but to me it
1:10:01
looked like he was setting up for a goo
1:10:03
pla uh it didn't happen but if you know
1:10:06
Matt Watson or you are Matt Watson
1:10:08
watching this please let me know what
1:10:09
your thought was were you going for goo
1:10:11
pla please tell me you were next up we
1:10:14
had scorpion 15 which took place under
1:10:17
the authority of the ashwan Ontario six
1:10:19
nations of the Grand River territory uh
1:10:21
this was a a great event it was a
1:10:23
amateur it was smallish there were
1:10:26
kickboxing fights there were grappling
1:10:27
fights and there were MMA MMA fights and
1:10:30
they were all really good Main Event
1:10:32
faaz oami won his fight and uh he looked
1:10:35
really good in the kickboxing match uh
1:10:37
some of these Fighters guys and girls
1:10:39
just went at it really well and you know
1:10:41
I I like smaller shows like this because
1:10:43
there's not a lot of production value
1:10:46
there's a little bit of Chaos in there
1:10:47
people running around and people
1:10:49
multitasking multi- roles uh it was it
1:10:52
was a good V I am looking forward to the
1:10:53
next next one our next guest is the
1:10:56
Chief Operating Officer of the Calgary
1:10:58
based Palace Athena women's Fighting
1:10:59
Championship Jennica wheeler jenica how
1:11:02
are you today I'm well thanks Andy thank
1:11:05
you for this opportunity to have a chat
1:11:06
with you it's my pleasure I'm I've been
1:11:09
a big fan of your organization right
1:11:10
from the start you've had two events in
1:11:12
the past and you've got your third one
1:11:14
upcoming now it's been announced
1:11:15
scheduled for March the 9th in Calgary
1:11:18
so would you mind just before we even
1:11:20
get into the particulars of that event
1:11:22
just talking about yourself who you are
1:11:24
how you got involved with Palace
1:11:27
Athena so I'm as as you've already said
1:11:31
I'm I'm jenica I'm with Palace Athena
1:11:33
women's Fighting Championship I feel
1:11:35
very honored to be able to be a part of
1:11:38
Palace Athena um we're a fairly new
1:11:41
company we've only had a couple events
1:11:43
so far and I have uh just come come into
1:11:48
the role of Chief Operating Officer
1:11:50
within the past couple of years and uh
1:11:54
you know I'm I'm I'm really passionate
1:11:56
about it to be honest with you I feel
1:11:57
like it's a great opportunity to support
1:11:59
female athletes who you know don't have
1:12:02
the same opportunities uh as maybe um
1:12:06
the male opponents so you know if we
1:12:08
just give them a floor and allow them to
1:12:11
have that that platform to be able to
1:12:14
shine I'm I'm really I'm really happy to
1:12:17
be able to be supported and I think it's
1:12:19
it's the right path
1:12:20
forward I saw before I uh I spoke with
1:12:23
you I did what any good journalist does
1:12:25
and I did a a search for you an internet
1:12:26
search and I found uh your Facebook
1:12:28
account and it shows that we have one
1:12:30
mutual friend Ryan the real deal Ford
1:12:32
and you made posts about him back in
1:12:33
like 2016 or something like that so
1:12:36
you've been involved somehow in or a fan
1:12:38
of of Combat Sports for some time now
1:12:40
how did you get interested in Combat
1:12:43
Sports you know that's that's uh it
1:12:47
you're hitting it right on the Mark I've
1:12:49
always been a fan of of MMA and Combat
1:12:51
Sports always have been and you know I I
1:12:54
ran across Ryan Ford um when he was
1:12:59
pretty heavy in his MMA career and I was
1:13:02
just really happy to see um another MMA
1:13:05
competitor from within Canada but in
1:13:08
Alberta and then I don't know it was
1:13:10
just his presence like he was just I
1:13:13
think his name is so fitting Ryan the
1:13:16
real deal forward like what you got was
1:13:18
what you what you were going to get you
1:13:20
know and I I just I just thought that
1:13:22
that you know that's someone to support
1:13:24
right like that's somebody who's behind
1:13:25
it and is behind it because it's a
1:13:27
passion not just like something that
1:13:30
they're getting into I I really wanted
1:13:32
to be there to just kind of like
1:13:33
Advocate and just kind of voice voice my
1:13:36
opinion in regards to you know the
1:13:39
ability that it's not just you know guys
1:13:42
getting into a cage it is it's a passion
1:13:45
it really is a passion because it it
1:13:47
would have to be a passion to be able to
1:13:49
just want to get into a cage and allow
1:13:51
someone with their full intent is to
1:13:54
knock you out that like someone has to
1:13:56
you know get in the cage and once that
1:13:58
that cage door closes it's just you and
1:14:00
them right and that's all there is like
1:14:02
it has to be a passion so well a mixed
1:14:05
martial arts fight it's a symbolic fight
1:14:07
to the death and so to some people they
1:14:09
just imagine that and they they they
1:14:11
can't even comprehend why somebody would
1:14:12
voluntarily go into a cage and do that
1:14:15
right right that's it and that's where
1:14:17
it it truly does fall back to it truly
1:14:20
falls back to it has to be a passion you
1:14:23
know actually
1:14:25
interestingly uh we have Ashley Nichols
1:14:28
and she's from Ontario she's she's a
1:14:30
Canadian fighter and she's actually uh
1:14:33
fighting for our straw weight title on
1:14:36
March the 9th at the nut at the nutrient
1:14:38
Center but it's interesting she came out
1:14:40
to our launch event um over three years
1:14:43
ago and I remember having that
1:14:45
conversation with her she actually
1:14:47
describes it not just as a passion but
1:14:50
as an obsession like she is you know she
1:14:52
she watches fights in her spare time
1:14:55
she's constantly catching up on it and
1:14:57
then on top of it you have their
1:14:59
training their their constant awareness
1:15:01
of their nutrition so we we could
1:15:04
probably say it is as a passion but
1:15:06
maybe it's a little bit of like no this
1:15:08
is my obsession you know yeah I know
1:15:11
Ashley very well actually I'm from St
1:15:13
Catherine's where I am right now uh and
1:15:15
so she's a great she's a great catch for
1:15:16
you she's fought in the states and LFA
1:15:18
she's got some uh some mu Tha World
1:15:20
titles so what a terrific catch good for
1:15:22
you on yes snagging her it seems like
1:15:25
you have a f it seems like you have a
1:15:27
couple Fighters that have performed in
1:15:29
your past events are still in this one
1:15:30
that you you've been attached to like uh
1:15:33
like Andy and uh Melissa codin fought
1:15:35
before so what is it about a fighter
1:15:37
that will make you want to embrace them
1:15:40
under the palace Athena
1:15:42
umbrella so I think that that's a that's
1:15:45
an interesting question I think you know
1:15:48
Palace I think we're really I don't
1:15:51
think that we're trying too much to
1:15:52
eliminate or cherry pick I really think
1:15:55
that you know we our doors are open to a
1:15:59
lot of Fighters so we actually have a
1:16:01
match on our card this time is is 145
1:16:06
featherweight and so we are um we are
1:16:11
you know keeping our doors open for
1:16:13
anybody who we can match up and you know
1:16:16
we do we do really want it to be you
1:16:18
know Fair matches but we also want it to
1:16:20
be like a match where these guys really
1:16:23
feel like they went in and earned that
1:16:26
win earned that title you know so I
1:16:29
think we're really fortunate we have a
1:16:31
great Matchmaker um his name is Kieran
1:16:33
Kettle he runs Muay Thai World Cup but
1:16:36
he's also traveled and fought in 50
1:16:39
different countries around the world so
1:16:41
he's got a great Network that's not just
1:16:44
within Canada or North America he's got
1:16:46
a lot of contacts that can sour some of
1:16:49
these fighters who actually maybe are
1:16:52
you know under under that under umbrella
1:16:54
of being under represented where they're
1:16:57
they're like these little hidden gems we
1:16:59
have this girl um uh lady uh uh Claudia
1:17:04
leet she's from Brazil she fought on
1:17:07
Chris Cyborg's um uh promotion a few
1:17:12
years ago and she won the title so we
1:17:14
are so H she was supposed to come for
1:17:16
our first event there were some Visa
1:17:18
issues it didn't it didn't go through
1:17:20
but we're happy to have her here but
1:17:24
that's that's what I mean is like we're
1:17:25
lucky to have kieren Kettle who has got
1:17:27
such a good reach to be able to bring in
1:17:30
some of these fighters from all of these
1:17:32
other areas who are underrepresented but
1:17:35
who honestly are going to go in there
1:17:37
and it's going to be a banger yeah like
1:17:40
it is yeah yeah so you know they're
1:17:43
going to go in there and they're going
1:17:44
to give it all but it's going to be
1:17:45
something to watch like that's that's
1:17:47
the exciting part like you know when we
1:17:50
look at Andy new's uh first fight
1:17:52
against Laura on tour I was cagide and I
1:17:56
just remember Laura having Andy's arm in
1:17:58
the armar and Andy was just you know
1:18:01
like giving it her all but that's what
1:18:03
it's about you know like these girls
1:18:05
have this passion and the excitement and
1:18:07
energy that comes with it is amazing you
1:18:09
know but I think we're really fortunate
1:18:11
that we have Kieran Kettle to look for
1:18:14
all of these girls outside of just North
1:18:17
America to bring them in so they have
1:18:20
that opportunity and you know like
1:18:22
anybody who's been given an opportunity
1:18:24
who doesn't maybe have as many
1:18:25
opportunities they are really there to
1:18:28
Showcase their
1:18:29
skills when it comes to uh women's sport
1:18:34
in general not just mixed martial arts
1:18:35
it's always a challenge finding a fan
1:18:38
base so there's uh and there's always
1:18:41
that discussion about men's sports with
1:18:42
versus women sports I don't really get
1:18:44
into an argument about it because
1:18:45
they're just different they're the same
1:18:46
but they're different at the same time I
1:18:48
think it's safe to say that that women
1:18:51
in general do not love sport as much
1:18:55
watching sport as much as men love
1:18:57
watching Sport and you see that in
1:18:58
attendance for various organizations and
1:19:01
stuff so how can we as a community
1:19:04
because in in mixed martial arts it's
1:19:06
still a pretty small community
1:19:07
especially in Canada how can we support
1:19:10
women's mixed martial arts and Palace
1:19:12
Athena to help you grow as big as you
1:19:15
want to grow or as big as big as it
1:19:16
possibly
1:19:19
can't interesting well you know I
1:19:24
think I think you know building the like
1:19:27
a fighter series and getting people to
1:19:29
become attached to a fighter is a really
1:19:31
good opportunity because it's it it I
1:19:34
think really what people need to start
1:19:37
having the opportunity is to connect
1:19:39
with the fighters right like where I
1:19:41
talk about how when we met Ashley and
1:19:43
she came out for our launch event it was
1:19:45
that opportunity for me to have that
1:19:48
personal conversation or we had the
1:19:50
fighter series um that was produced
1:19:52
produced by our videographers last year
1:19:54
that were amazing where where they went
1:19:56
and followed Melissa codin and you got
1:19:58
to see who she really is like
1:20:01
authentically right like it wasn't just
1:20:03
this like oh you know we're coming out
1:20:06
to shoot like hey you know go do your
1:20:08
thing we're just G to follow you like I
1:20:10
think people need to see it's not just
1:20:12
like it's not just these people who are
1:20:15
like this kind of barbaric kind of idea
1:20:18
like honestly we sometimes I like will
1:20:22
be out in public and I think to myself
1:20:23
wow she's got a lot of confidence she's
1:20:26
got like like her shoulders are back I
1:20:29
wonder if she's ever fought you know
1:20:30
what I mean like just like that kind of
1:20:32
they are really the same people in the
1:20:34
grocery store so if we can connect that
1:20:37
same kind of um not no similarity I
1:20:42
think that can try to help draw in uh
1:20:45
some more
1:20:46
audience I think you're you're that's a
1:20:49
really good point I mention often in
1:20:51
interviews or maybe I don't I even
1:20:52
mention it but I think it anyway and I
1:20:55
do say it from time to time is that
1:20:57
Fighters when most people look at
1:20:58
Fighters most fans they see Fighters
1:21:00
during the fight event and they think of
1:21:01
them as a fighter but outside of that 15
1:21:04
minutes they're people right like they
1:21:05
have lives they have families they have
1:21:07
hopes they have dreams they have
1:21:10
aspirations and I find that a really
1:21:13
good way to to draw people into them or
1:21:16
the sport is to allow the the fan to see
1:21:19
themselves within the fighter which a
1:21:21
lot of people do right that's why a lot
1:21:22
of people watch fights they love it's
1:21:24
thrilling a lot most of them are
1:21:26
thrilling they they imagine themselves
1:21:29
in that position so I think trying to
1:21:32
get people to I'll use the word love but
1:21:34
maybe it's not the right word but people
1:21:36
to to love your athletes or or be
1:21:38
affectionate toward your athletes is
1:21:40
really smart so yeah yeah that's my
1:21:43
thoughts on
1:21:45
that so uh I guess we have your third
1:21:48
event coming up so it's it's basically
1:21:50
one every year and change so is that
1:21:53
plan is that the plan to be like a once
1:21:55
a year kind of event or do you hope to
1:21:57
have more frequent events at some point
1:21:59
no no yeah we definitely are trying to
1:22:02
gear up to have more events um so we are
1:22:04
looking at our next card um being all
1:22:08
amateur so that's one thing that Palace
1:22:11
really wants to support is to actually
1:22:13
give the opportunities for the the
1:22:17
amateur Fighters you know it's very
1:22:19
common for female fighters to move into
1:22:22
to the pro card because there's not as a
1:22:25
many amateur fights so Palace we would
1:22:28
really like to support the amateur
1:22:30
Fighters so we're trying to look at
1:22:32
trying to navigate around um gathering
1:22:35
enough amateur Fighters because it is a
1:22:38
problem because they you know they don't
1:22:40
stay amateur for very long because they
1:22:42
are kind of pushed into going pro so
1:22:44
with Palace we want to we want to give
1:22:47
them that platform right so we want to
1:22:49
open the doors to the amateurs and give
1:22:52
them an opportunity to be showcased on
1:22:54
Pay-per-view the same as all of the pro
1:22:56
Fighters but it'll just be amateurs so
1:22:59
we're looking at trying to establish our
1:23:01
next event
1:23:04
um maybe June maybe July we'll have to
1:23:10
see but we're hoping to hold our next
1:23:12
event and it be all amateur and then
1:23:14
we'll look into the fall for our
1:23:16
following date but yeah we are looking
1:23:19
at trying to just hold some more just to
1:23:21
give some athletes
1:23:23
just not to give just athletes but to
1:23:25
give everybody the viewership that
1:23:27
opportunity to see what we're showcasing
1:23:30
and for the athletes to you know to not
1:23:33
get that cage rest to be able to be out
1:23:36
there you know in the cage with the
1:23:38
lights with the audience that's that's
1:23:41
the exciting part for the athletes
1:23:42
that's different from the training so we
1:23:45
we do want to hold some more more events
1:23:47
that are more regular throughout the
1:23:49
year for sure amateur mix martial Arts
1:23:53
is a bit of a mess in a couple places in
1:23:55
Canada it's really challenging like
1:23:56
there's no even amateur MMA in Ontario
1:23:58
where I live uh my daughter started
1:24:00
training Brazilian jiu-jitsu and and
1:24:03
well MMA basically at Niger top team a
1:24:04
couple years ago and I think it's
1:24:07
important for young girls at that age
1:24:09
she was I don't remember how old she was
1:24:11
when she started 10 or something but uh
1:24:13
it's important for them to be able to
1:24:15
imagine there's someplace for them to go
1:24:16
like what's the destination right sure
1:24:18
there's their plan they're going through
1:24:20
a journey they're learning how to do all
1:24:21
the stuff but
1:24:23
trying to imagine themselves going
1:24:24
straight to professional is pretty
1:24:25
daunting so to know there might be an
1:24:27
Avenue amateur MMA for for for women
1:24:30
that they can aspire to that's a pretty
1:24:32
important notion I think yeah I agree
1:24:36
with you I agree with you and you know
1:24:38
like I just don't think that it's the
1:24:40
right path forward for them to not be
1:24:42
able to have those amateur fights to
1:24:44
build up that experience right like when
1:24:47
we talk about the difference between
1:24:48
training in a in the gyms to be training
1:24:51
in or not to to be actually fighting in
1:24:53
front of the audience with the lights
1:24:56
and the cameras and all of that kind
1:24:58
it's a it's a different it's a different
1:25:00
vibe it's a different essence you know
1:25:02
and to be able to put on those shows and
1:25:05
to get in there with your opponent and
1:25:07
know like this isn't just you know
1:25:09
sparring or training like this is this
1:25:11
is really it and to get more of those
1:25:13
under your belt to to be able to have
1:25:15
that confidence you like you know okay
1:25:17
so round one is done what do I do how do
1:25:19
I calculate how did I respond what how
1:25:21
can I improve into into your next
1:25:24
round everybody needs those kind of
1:25:26
Foundations to be able to build up
1:25:28
without that Foundation to just be
1:25:30
pushed into Pro is it's not in the
1:25:33
Fighter's best best interest so you know
1:25:35
I think it would be great you know for
1:25:37
us to build that opportunity for the
1:25:39
fighters well it sounds like you're
1:25:41
you're heading in the right direction
1:25:43
already so uh Palace Athena uh number
1:25:46
three is happening March 9th in Calgary
1:25:48
do you have any final words oh first of
1:25:50
all I'd like to thank you very much for
1:25:51
speaking with us uh this will be on the
1:25:53
MMA show number two ever coming up this
1:25:56
Monday uh is there anything you'd like
1:25:58
to say before we go well I would like to
1:26:01
let you guys know that we are um you
1:26:03
know we we bring Felicia Spencer has
1:26:06
been a true Advocate and supporter for
1:26:08
Palace Athena since day one she'll come
1:26:11
back as our cage side commentator and in
1:26:13
in cage commentator to be able to talk
1:26:15
to our Fighters after their fights and
1:26:17
uh so we're very fortunate to have her
1:26:19
support you know and then you know Chris
1:26:22
Borg she has been a true support for
1:26:25
Palace from day one as well um she'll be
1:26:28
back with a meet and greet on the Friday
1:26:30
before our event on March the 7th on
1:26:33
March the 7th um and uh pardon me March
1:26:37
the 8th on March the 8th at the Marriott
1:26:40
hotel we'll be having a Chris cyborg
1:26:42
meet and greet and Felicia Spencer meet
1:26:44
and greet we do have a celebrity guests
1:26:47
um that we are really holding close and
1:26:51
feel very very fortunate uh about having
1:26:55
I don't know if you've heard any any any
1:26:57
sort of conversation but the icean is
1:27:00
coming to the nutrient center with
1:27:03
Palestina on Chell or or Johnny fio no
1:27:07
Chuck ladel okay yeah yeah that's
1:27:11
fantastic it's funny I just saw a video
1:27:13
of him I think yesterday of him a friend
1:27:16
or somebody asking him to leg kick him
1:27:17
and Chuck still got it man chuck chuck
1:27:19
whacked him in the leg and Buddy went
1:27:21
down was pretty funny to watch yeah well
1:27:25
you know we reached out to him and just
1:27:27
kind of like had a little bit of
1:27:28
conversation about like what our vision
1:27:30
and Mission is you know like to give the
1:27:33
opportunity and to support the athlete
1:27:35
and he he and his manager were like you
1:27:38
know that's something that we can get
1:27:39
behind so we're really fortunate to have
1:27:42
this kind of exclusive within Canada
1:27:46
support from Chuck Liddell like honestly
1:27:49
like a legend a legend in the industry
1:27:51
right
1:27:52
of course
1:27:53
fantastic yeah well Jennica once again
1:27:56
thank you so much for your time I really
1:27:58
appreciate you speaking with us thanks
1:27:59
for everything good luck with your event
1:28:02
thank you actually you know there's one
1:28:03
thing I didn't speak about so yeah all
1:28:05
of our tickets will be on sale uh
1:28:07
they're on sale now at show pass so
1:28:10
Palace Athena 3 on show pass and then we
1:28:13
are offering our pay-per-view uh and it
1:28:16
is
1:28:18
$29.99 millions. Co so all of that is
1:28:22
available now fantastic I'll make sure I
1:28:25
update your page at MMA with all that
1:28:27
information uh yeah Jennica thank you
1:28:31
thank you Andy thank you I don't know
1:28:33
about you but I think it's fantastic
1:28:35
that our female fighters in Canada and
1:28:37
and elsewhere are getting an opportunity
1:28:39
to showcase their skills and Palace
1:28:41
Athena is doing just that two weeks ago
1:28:44
both fight Lake Atlantic 13 and Samurai
1:28:46
ma9 lost one of their main event
1:28:48
Fighters either on the day of the wiins
1:28:50
or the day after the wiins
1:28:52
after they were hospitalized for various
1:28:54
reasons uh but both presumably due to
1:28:57
the weight cutting process to talk about
1:28:59
this issue we're going to be joined by
1:29:00
Dr fisel reman a nephologist from London
1:29:03
Ontario Dr reman thank you so much for
1:29:05
speaking with us Andy thanks for having
1:29:07
me on your podcast oh it's my pleasure
1:29:09
and it's funny how just right off the
1:29:11
bat you said that calling it a podcast I
1:29:14
never really thought of it as a podcast
1:29:15
but I guess it kind of sort of is and uh
1:29:17
I've had a few other people ask me about
1:29:19
it so I guess this is a podcast so thank
1:29:21
you for being here thank you so much
1:29:25
okay so you know people watch our
1:29:27
viewers right now watch TV or they watch
1:29:29
the internet when medical doctors come
1:29:31
on and talk about a range of topics
1:29:33
oftentimes about sports because we have
1:29:34
a lot of sports fans on here but there's
1:29:36
something very unique about you why it's
1:29:38
important that we speak with you on this
1:29:40
topic could you give a little bit of
1:29:41
background on your your combat training
1:29:43
and your combat
1:29:44
background sure I mean um I'm a a kidney
1:29:48
doctor by trade and um back in in the
1:29:52
day when I was in my early 30s just
1:29:54
starting out I um I had gained a trous
1:29:57
amount of weight I become quite obese
1:30:00
actually and I bought a house that I
1:30:02
couldn't afford I had young children and
1:30:04
so I applied for life insurance and I
1:30:06
was
1:30:07
diagnosed you know with with diabetes
1:30:10
high blood pressure and high cholesterol
1:30:12
and that really scared me because you
1:30:16
know um I knew what the consequences of
1:30:18
those conditions were if left untreated
1:30:21
and so I said you know what I need to
1:30:22
change my lifestyle and I started eating
1:30:26
properly and I started exercising and
1:30:28
for me to be involved with exercise I
1:30:30
needed to have a goal and so I always
1:30:34
had loved watching the martial arts and
1:30:36
boxing and kickboxing and so I said you
1:30:37
know what let me use those uh modalities
1:30:41
to try and improve my lifestyle and so I
1:30:43
started training in boxing initially and
1:30:46
that really helped me get in great shape
1:30:48
I lost 100 pounds over six months and my
1:30:52
blood work all normalized and I just
1:30:54
stayed in love with the sport and in
1:30:55
love with Combat Sports and I continued
1:30:58
to compete and and and and train from
1:31:02
that time on and certainly it was a late
1:31:04
it was late for me you know I was
1:31:05
already in my early
1:31:07
30s and so I really wanted to kind of go
1:31:10
on a fast-paced program and and um
1:31:13
compete and and and use Combat Sports
1:31:16
actually to raise money for medical
1:31:18
research which I was also passionate
1:31:19
about and so it's been a blessing
1:31:22
um I've competed in boxing kickboxing
1:31:25
and mixed martial arts and Muay Thai and
1:31:29
uh it has enriched my life
1:31:31
tremendously and you've had actual
1:31:34
fights haven't you yes I've had 17
1:31:38
fights um about uh SE seven of them in
1:31:43
in
1:31:44
boxing uh seven in kickboxing two in MMA
1:31:49
and one Muay Tha fight so I've uh
1:31:51
sampled a little bit of everything but I
1:31:53
love the
1:31:54
competition and I love all of the Combat
1:31:57
Sports the various Combat Sports and
1:31:59
it's been a a real blessing for
1:32:01
me I first be well you're an inspiration
1:32:04
for sure for for anybody not even just
1:32:06
Fighters but I first became aware of you
1:32:08
several years ago when on Facebook all
1:32:11
the fighters I knew not all the fighters
1:32:12
but a lot of the fighters from the
1:32:14
London area would continually post about
1:32:15
Dr reman and how you were supporting of
1:32:17
them of their uh preparations for their
1:32:19
fights for for Medicals and that kind of
1:32:22
thing so that's how I first you entered
1:32:23
my my my my realm of my sphere um and
1:32:28
you know my question to you today is
1:32:31
we've had a couple high-profile fight
1:32:34
cancellations in the past week last
1:32:35
weekend we had two main events and two
1:32:37
different fight organizations where the
1:32:40
main one of the main event Fighters had
1:32:42
to withdraw and actually go to the
1:32:43
hospital due to very serious issues one
1:32:45
was a a self-proclaimed well they they
1:32:47
announced it it was a it was kidney
1:32:48
failure and the other one was uh a
1:32:51
potential heart attack which I don't
1:32:52
have confirmation so I can't say that
1:32:54
for sure now without going into
1:32:56
particulars about those cases can you
1:32:58
just
1:33:00
explain what what weight cutting is and
1:33:04
what the body goes through when they do
1:33:06
it well thanks Andy that's a great great
1:33:09
question I I want to give a little bit
1:33:10
of a brief introduction to what you
1:33:12
brought up though because the medical
1:33:14
care of the athlete is a big issue and I
1:33:18
think the reason the athletes very
1:33:20
kindly were were said some nice things
1:33:22
about me is because I I care about the
1:33:26
athletes and and what I mean by that is
1:33:29
many of our athletes I mean people come
1:33:31
from all sorts of different
1:33:32
socioeconomic backgrounds but there's no
1:33:34
doubt from my experience that the Combat
1:33:37
Sports um has um um practitioners who
1:33:42
don't always have the most resources who
1:33:44
don't have access to Medical Care like
1:33:46
some others do May many of whom don't
1:33:48
have family doctors and and they don't
1:33:51
have money Mone and so when they're
1:33:52
asked to compete and they have to get a
1:33:54
medical form completed they go to the
1:33:57
walk-in clinic and they charged hundred
1:33:58
bucks for the medical you know even if
1:34:00
they have a family doctor they're
1:34:01
charged 100 bucks or 50 bucks is a lot
1:34:04
of money for some people for many of us
1:34:07
especially in this economic climate and
1:34:09
so I always had a that always left a bad
1:34:12
taste in my mouth and so I always wanted
1:34:14
to help athletes because I think it's is
1:34:15
a great Sport and and our athletes need
1:34:18
that support so I always did Medicals
1:34:20
free of charge you know uh where I'd
1:34:22
bring them to the hospital or or I
1:34:24
sometimes go to a gym and we'd open up a
1:34:26
big station and we'd do 20 or 30
1:34:28
Medicals all in one sitting both for the
1:34:31
safety of the athlete I've turned down
1:34:33
people from competing too for the safety
1:34:35
of the athlete but also to allow people
1:34:37
to fulfill their dream of competing in
1:34:40
martial arts so that's a very very
1:34:42
important issue that I wanted to bring
1:34:43
up front because not enough of us
1:34:45
doctors do that and I I'm very I feel
1:34:48
very strongly that we need to improve
1:34:50
access for medicine medical care for
1:34:53
athletes who in Combat
1:34:54
Sports yeah so for the weight cutting uh
1:34:57
part I have given talks on the dangers
1:34:59
of weight cutting for boxing Ontario
1:35:01
athletes as well as for kickboxing
1:35:04
Canada athletes because I am passionate
1:35:06
about it and um the weight cutting
1:35:09
techniques themselves are dangerous and
1:35:11
the consequences of weight cutting can
1:35:13
be very dangerous now I'm not I'm not
1:35:16
going to knock the athletes who do it
1:35:17
successfully there are some athletes for
1:35:19
who it's become a science where they
1:35:21
able to navigate it in such a way that
1:35:23
their health does not suffer but even
1:35:25
those athletes are taking risks when you
1:35:29
are dropping a large amount of weight in
1:35:32
a short period of time you're changing
1:35:35
your body chemistry your blood chemistry
1:35:37
to a point that you can cause severe
1:35:39
damage so number one is um you can get
1:35:43
um electrolyte abnormalities that can
1:35:46
cause your heart to go into a bad Rhythm
1:35:48
and cause uh life-threatening
1:35:50
complications
1:35:52
you um can change the pressure in your
1:35:55
brain such that you're much more prone
1:35:58
to concussions and head injuries and
1:36:01
intracranial bleeds you're actually more
1:36:02
prone to bleeds when you have uh cut a
1:36:05
tremendous amount of weight um and I I
1:36:07
don't think all the athletes recognize
1:36:09
that the same amount of trauma that you
1:36:12
would be able to probably take in in a
1:36:15
situation where you've not cut weight is
1:36:17
not the same as when you um when you cut
1:36:20
weight and take that head shot you're
1:36:22
much more prone to bleeding in the brain
1:36:23
and to swelling in the brain which can
1:36:26
cause death um in addition to that when
1:36:31
you when you uh dehydrate yourself over
1:36:33
a short period of time by doing sauna
1:36:35
suits or by by um uh training
1:36:38
excessively and restricting intake of of
1:36:41
salt and water um you can actually cause
1:36:44
your blood pressure go dangerously low
1:36:47
and compromise the blood flow to your
1:36:48
kidneys and your kidneys can shut down
1:36:51
and and in certain circumstances I've
1:36:52
seen muscle breakdown happen where you
1:36:54
get something called
1:36:56
rabdomiolisis or which is breakdown of
1:36:58
muscle and the muscle protein that gets
1:37:01
into the bloodstream because of that
1:37:02
breakdown is directly toxic to your
1:37:04
kidneys your kidneys shut down and you
1:37:06
risk requiring dialysis so these are
1:37:10
lifethreatening complications of weight
1:37:12
cutting and so um I'm really against it
1:37:16
and for that reason and I feel that um
1:37:20
we need to be able to compete without
1:37:24
allowing athletes to do that because um
1:37:27
even though for many athletes it may be
1:37:28
an advantage when they rehydrate and
1:37:30
they feel strong for many it's putting
1:37:32
it's putting many lives at
1:37:35
risk there have been talks I know that
1:37:38
one FC one uh one FC uh in in Asia I
1:37:42
don't you know it's I should have looked
1:37:44
into this but I know what one point in
1:37:45
the past they had talked about doing
1:37:46
Progressive weigh-ins where you were
1:37:49
weighed in leading up to your event and
1:37:51
you couldn't lose a certain amount of
1:37:53
weight or a certain percent of your
1:37:54
weight over a certain amount of time
1:37:56
that would prevent fighters from having
1:37:57
that drastic cutting so like just a
1:38:01
uh from my firsthand experience I know
1:38:03
that when you former UFC middleweight
1:38:06
champion Rich Franklin when he fought
1:38:07
Jason McDonald Jason the ath McDonald
1:38:09
Canadian he lost 29 pounds overnight or
1:38:12
sorry from the weighs to when he fought
1:38:15
he weighed 29 pounds more so that's 30
1:38:18
pounds that this athlete lost and gained
1:38:20
in an extremely short amount of time and
1:38:23
just everything you said it's it's not
1:38:25
surprising those are some serious
1:38:26
consequences but the thing about weight
1:38:28
cutting and for anybody who's watching
1:38:30
who doesn't realize why Fighters weight
1:38:32
cut it's because the the train of
1:38:36
thought for Fighters is that if they're
1:38:38
bigger than their opponent come fight
1:38:40
day they're going to have an advantage
1:38:42
so they're going to try to get as big as
1:38:43
they can before the fight lose a lot of
1:38:46
water weight in the day leading up to
1:38:48
the fight weigh in make the weight and
1:38:50
then Reg gain that weight come fight
1:38:53
time sometimes it works like you said
1:38:55
Doctor but sometimes it doesn't work
1:38:57
sometimes the athletes are seriously
1:38:59
injured sometimes the athletes are
1:39:01
forced to withdraw from their fight and
1:39:02
sometimes they're I don't know if there
1:39:04
have ever been any actual proven
1:39:05
fatalities but it wouldn't surprise me
1:39:08
but you know you're right it's just not
1:39:10
a good idea as far as I'm concerned but
1:39:12
the fighters are going to try to get
1:39:13
this Advantage so what would you say to
1:39:15
the fighter who wants to bring himself
1:39:18
up in the world and win at his fights or
1:39:21
her fights and you know make a name for
1:39:25
themselves so Andy just like we don't
1:39:28
allow
1:39:29
any Joe Blow to drive a car without a
1:39:32
license or or do you know do certain
1:39:35
things that that that that may be
1:39:38
harmful to themselves or to society it's
1:39:40
the same thing with with fighting you
1:39:42
know when you when you when you apply to
1:39:44
fight as a professional fighter you have
1:39:46
to apply for a license in order to apply
1:39:48
for that license you have to obey the
1:39:49
rules of the Comm Mission so we need to
1:39:52
take this out of the Fighter's hands
1:39:54
this has to be done by all of the
1:39:56
commissions in the various countries to
1:39:58
make sure we create a supporting
1:39:59
environment that is safe for all and the
1:40:01
way you really do that is by what you
1:40:04
just said you know prohibiting excessive
1:40:06
weight loss more frequent monitoring of
1:40:08
weight more weight classes you know the
1:40:11
UFC is thinking about having more weight
1:40:13
classes to try and combat this problem
1:40:16
as well there are more weight classes
1:40:18
just the sorry sorry cut you off there
1:40:20
are more weight classes just UniFi or
1:40:21
sorry uh UFC doesn't follow that that
1:40:24
weight system right and I think they're
1:40:26
finally willing to explore that like to
1:40:29
open up I don't I don't know the exact
1:40:30
weight but 165 or 180 you know to have
1:40:34
more weight super lightweight sure yep
1:40:37
but even having more weight classes is
1:40:38
not enough because if I'm um you know if
1:40:42
I weigh 220 pounds before I'm competing
1:40:45
you know psychologically I'm going to
1:40:47
want to get down to light heavyweight
1:40:49
and fight a 205 so I'm I'm still going
1:40:52
so I think in addition to having more
1:40:53
weight classes you do need to put limits
1:40:56
on on how much your weight is allowed to
1:40:59
fluctuate leading up to the fight and
1:41:01
and and I think we're going to need a
1:41:03
body of experts to get together to
1:41:04
determine when the weigh-ins need to
1:41:06
happen in the last month let's say
1:41:08
before a competition um to to to save
1:41:11
the athletes from themselves we cannot
1:41:13
leave it up to the athletes this has to
1:41:15
come from the combat sporting
1:41:17
authorities like the commissions to
1:41:19
enforce these rules and I think it'll
1:41:21
make our sport a lot safer now Andy I'm
1:41:24
going to need you to do some research
1:41:25
for me just in case I'm wrong but I'm
1:41:27
pretty sure there was a professional
1:41:29
boxer who died in Ontario in the last
1:41:32
three to five years he came from a South
1:41:34
American country where and he came to
1:41:37
Canada to compete he did not know that
1:41:39
in Canada we're one of the few boxing
1:41:43
commissions that does same day weigh-ins
1:41:45
so he comes in he says what do you mean
1:41:47
same day same day weigh in so he was way
1:41:50
overweight because he thought he would
1:41:51
be waiting the day before so he cut
1:41:54
weight to compete and um and and I end I
1:41:59
think he ended up dying after competing
1:42:02
and again because he's more brain injury
1:42:04
so again you are much more prone to
1:42:07
brain injuries when you're having these
1:42:08
wide fluctuations in weight and this
1:42:11
needs to stop and I wish also that I
1:42:14
don't know why some commissions um allow
1:42:16
de of ways and others day before I
1:42:19
actually support de WS because I think
1:42:22
people are less likely to then try and
1:42:24
play those games but we need to have
1:42:26
kind of uniform rules that all of us in
1:42:28
the world can follow and there's too
1:42:30
many different commissions too many
1:42:32
different rule sets um so hopefully
1:42:34
that's something that we can
1:42:36
change I think that's a a more likely
1:42:38
scenario same day weigh-ins to occur
1:42:40
than uh Progressive weigh-ins just for
1:42:42
the fact that uh especially when you
1:42:45
have got promotions that bring in
1:42:46
fighters from away from another Province
1:42:48
or another country even you've got
1:42:50
number one you've got no jurisdiction
1:42:52
over them um you they might have no
1:42:54
access and the cost would be prohibitive
1:42:56
I'd imagine because the the promotion
1:42:58
would have to send an official with a
1:43:00
with a valid skill and who knows if that
1:43:02
skill is is measured the same as the
1:43:05
official skill that the usual fight so
1:43:08
you'd have to send people all around you
1:43:09
know I'm not saying it can't be done I'm
1:43:11
sure the UFC could do it but say Unified
1:43:13
MMA is good as they are and as much much
1:43:16
support and and things like that they
1:43:17
have it'd be tough for them let alone a
1:43:19
much smaller promotion
1:43:21
so same day ways yeah I could see that
1:43:22
as a
1:43:23
possibility um I know
1:43:26
my sorry I was e it is a solution that
1:43:30
could be easily more easily
1:43:32
operationalized compared to doing serial
1:43:34
weigh-ins for a week say I
1:43:37
agree well that's uh that's good to hear
1:43:40
it's good to have your perspective okay
1:43:43
doctor what do you say to the fighter I
1:43:46
know we T you touched on this briefly
1:43:48
but what can we do as a community to get
1:43:52
these people these these these athletes
1:43:54
to realize that this is serious because
1:43:57
as we talked about with with your
1:43:59
personal uh weight loss journey and you
1:44:01
know the the the precursor for that you
1:44:04
know even though you knew it was a
1:44:06
danger you just didn't want to do
1:44:07
anything about it for years and you knew
1:44:09
it was an issue you knew it was a
1:44:10
problem and it finally took something
1:44:12
for you to go have that aha moment we go
1:44:15
man I need to do this how do we give
1:44:16
Fighters an aha moment to know that this
1:44:19
is a serious issue for them to address
1:44:21
no that's a great question Andy I think
1:44:23
honestly um education so uh um you know
1:44:27
man mandating Fighters attend education
1:44:30
sessions on on performance enhancing
1:44:34
drugs and its consequences weight
1:44:36
cutting and its consequences you know
1:44:39
unhealthy lifestyle choices I think
1:44:40
that's that kind of education is
1:44:43
important I think in this in the area of
1:44:45
Combat Sports but um but in the end we
1:44:48
have to enforce rules and and you know
1:44:50
the UFC for example has done a fairly
1:44:52
good job with screening for per
1:44:54
performance ening drugs and we screening
1:44:57
athletes um they can even you know they
1:44:59
they're even being screened for using
1:45:00
IVs IV fluids they can detect certain
1:45:03
chemicals in the in the in the blood
1:45:05
that would that suggest that they've
1:45:06
taken IV fluids and so um um I think
1:45:11
those types of rules need to be enforced
1:45:13
for for um weight cutting as well and
1:45:17
and penalties need to be um applied
1:45:20
because unfortunately by the time the
1:45:22
fighter realizes the consequences it's
1:45:24
too late so we can do education upfront
1:45:27
we can try and get rid of this culture
1:45:29
of of of of weight cutting and uh um try
1:45:34
and educate our Fighters but in the end
1:45:36
the rules have to be enforced and I
1:45:38
think the only way to do that is at the
1:45:40
level of uh of the promotions and of the
1:45:43
commissions you mentioned performance
1:45:45
enhancing drugs all the physical
1:45:48
consequences of weight cut cutting that
1:45:50
we discussed that's for like a a
1:45:53
non-performance enhancing drug person
1:45:55
who's in otherwise good physical shape
1:45:57
presumably presumably no underlying
1:45:59
conditions I know we're we're painting
1:46:01
everyone with a broad brush here but
1:46:02
once you start taking performance and
1:46:04
have and sorry once you start taking
1:46:06
performance enhancing drugs which are
1:46:08
are different and they're not all the
1:46:10
same but that affects your your body in
1:46:12
other ways too so I would imagine that
1:46:14
makes it even more dangerous the weight
1:46:16
cut oh absolutely I mean when one of the
1:46:20
common for example complications of
1:46:22
testosterone is you can develop
1:46:24
polycythemia which is where your red
1:46:26
blood cells go very high in your blood
1:46:29
and um and if you take arrotin for that
1:46:32
matter that can also make your red blood
1:46:33
cells go very high and uh if those are
1:46:36
going high and you're severely volume
1:46:38
Contracting yourself or dehydrating
1:46:41
yourself um with your weight cutting
1:46:43
your blood can be become very thick and
1:46:46
you can get blood clots and strokes and
1:46:49
and and stuff like that so that's just
1:46:51
one example of the combination of per
1:46:53
performance-enhancing drugs if you're
1:46:55
using cocaine as a stimulant which
1:46:57
unfortunately many athletes do and then
1:47:00
you're weight cutting and stressing your
1:47:01
nervous system that way you're much more
1:47:03
prone to having heart attacks or or or
1:47:06
variations in blood pressure that can be
1:47:08
dangerous as well um so absolutely the
1:47:13
combination of all these unhealthy
1:47:16
habits from performance enhancing drugs
1:47:18
with the weight cutting is a bad
1:47:19
combination
1:47:21
for
1:47:22
sure well I I thought this was a timely
1:47:26
conversation for us to have based on the
1:47:28
the recent events let's let's hope that
1:47:30
once this discussion gets put out there
1:47:31
and people pay attention to it listen to
1:47:33
it it'll have some sort of positive
1:47:35
influence just like you are a positive
1:47:37
influence Dr rayan you you've been a
1:47:39
positive light in Canadian mixed martial
1:47:41
arts and Combat Sports in the London
1:47:42
area and expanding outward for some time
1:47:44
now just want to thank you for
1:47:46
everything you do and thank you for the
1:47:47
taking time to speak with us uh people
1:47:49
know you already and they know that your
1:47:51
words are wise so hopefully they'll take
1:47:52
what you said to heart Andy thank you so
1:47:55
much for bringing this for inviting me
1:47:57
but also for bringing this topic to
1:47:59
light and just for all of your listeners
1:48:01
out there I'm happy to come to your gyms
1:48:04
and and talk to your athletes about this
1:48:06
because it's just so tragic when you see
1:48:09
the consequences of what happens and
1:48:11
I've seen that time and time again and
1:48:14
so uh I really I'm so happy that you
1:48:16
brought this topic to light and um
1:48:19
hopefully you know the Powers uh that be
1:48:21
can can make some changes that make
1:48:24
Combat Sports a a safer uh Pursuit for
1:48:27
athletes who want to pursue that career
1:48:30
option Dr Ran thank you for your time
1:48:33
thanks so
1:48:35
much there you go fight friends that's
1:48:37
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1:48:39
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1:48:57
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1:48:59
this point and it's it's it's a learning
1:49:01
process that's for sure the most
1:49:03
important lesson I'm learning is that
1:49:05
everything takes a lot longer and goes a
1:49:07
lot more slowly than I want so I'll get
1:49:09
there but uh just keep your eyes open
1:49:12
and you'll see