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Sammy Mora on Utah hosting Kansas Saturday coming off the bye, More run heavy or pass heavy (?), First White Out + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN 700, 92.1 FM.
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  Speaker 2: We're joined now by Sammy Mora on a Ute Zone Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: Utah football and well, Utah, all things insider, but it's
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  Speaker 2: football season.
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  Speaker 3: Sammy, welcome. How are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing great, Sean. How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing all right. Glad to have you with us.
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  Speaker 1: We were just talking about the depth of this Utah
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  Speaker 1: football team inspired by an article in ESPN right now
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  Speaker 1: talking about how, you know, the talented QB number two
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  Speaker 1: is a thing of the past for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: programs because as soon as somebody is thought to be
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  Speaker 1: talented at the quarterback position.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody wants them to be their starter.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about it plenty, but Utah was able to
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  Speaker 1: retain both Devin Dampier and bird Ficklin. They've used both
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  Speaker 1: Devin Dampier and bird Ficklin and all four games this season.
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  Speaker 1: And it's really working out very nicely for the Utes.
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  Speaker 1: But then I zoomed out a little bit and I said, wow,
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  Speaker 1: there's actually a lot of depth at a lot of
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  Speaker 1: crucial positions for this Utah football team. And so I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to table the bird and the Devin thing for
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  Speaker 1: just a second here.
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  Speaker 3: What is the deepest position beyond that quarterback room for you?
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  Speaker 4: Safety, I think. I want to say that the safety room.
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  Speaker 5: Is looking mighty deep. Obviously, you know, Jackson, Benny, Nate, Richie,
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  Speaker 5: Rabbit Evans, all three of them are playing and starting
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  Speaker 5: majority of the games this year. And it's so deep
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  Speaker 5: that you have Benny playing mainly nickel. Just you can
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  Speaker 5: have all three of those guys out on the field
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  Speaker 5: at any given point. But then if you look behind them,
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  Speaker 5: we've heard a lot of good things about Nate Tillman.
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  Speaker 5: He's played a lot this season.
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  Speaker 4: We've heard a lot about Manny.
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  Speaker 5: Fuller and what he can do as well. So I
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  Speaker 5: think that safety is probably the first one that pops
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  Speaker 5: into my brain. But you could make an argument about
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  Speaker 5: wide receiver. You could make an argument about running back.
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  Speaker 5: You could even make an argument about offensive line with
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  Speaker 5: the amount of guys that Utah's been playing this season.
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  Speaker 5: And same with linebacker. I think you have the four
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  Speaker 5: starters that have been playing. Well, not starters, but the
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  Speaker 5: four guys that have.
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  Speaker 4: Been rotating a lot this year. So I do agree.
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  Speaker 4: I think that there's a lot of positions across the
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  Speaker 4: board that are super deep for Utah this year.
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  Speaker 1: All right, if we now bring Devin and Bird back
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  Speaker 1: into it, it hasn't looked like a normal QB1, QB2 relationship.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we anticipated that it would because even
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  Speaker 1: last year it didn't. Now that we've had a bye
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  Speaker 1: week to kind of digest the first four games. Is
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  Speaker 1: the balance where it should be right now? Is the
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  Speaker 1: balance correct? Do we need to see more bird throwing?
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  Speaker 1: Do we need to see less of them on the
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  Speaker 1: field at the same time running speed options and trickerations together?
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  Speaker 1: If you could revise or adjust, or maybe not, that
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  Speaker 1: 2QB room, is it being handled the right way?
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  Speaker 5: I think so. We've heard a lot from Kevin that
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  Speaker 5: this offense is built around making other teams pay for
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  Speaker 5: whatever Utah puts on the field. And if that means
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  Speaker 5: putting both on the field at the.
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  Speaker 4: Same time, I'm fine with it because it's winning games.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously I know that people like, you don't want to
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  Speaker 4: get too cute with it.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that's something that Morgan has talked a
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  Speaker 5: lot about. And that's something that Kevin has also talked about.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want to get cute. You want to be
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  Speaker 4: able to be efficient with what you're doing.
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  Speaker 5: But not make it so cute that defenses are figuring
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  Speaker 5: out what you're doing quickly.
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  Speaker 4: And for the most part, they haven't like, Yeah, there
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  Speaker 4: was those couple.
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  Speaker 5: Of drives that they stalled versus Iowa State, but they
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  Speaker 5: went away from.
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  Speaker 4: What was working. And what was working in that moment
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  Speaker 4: was running the ball with Wayshon.
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  Speaker 5: And the second they went back to it, Wayshon scored,
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  Speaker 5: Utah seals the game. It's pretty simple that you do
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  Speaker 5: what's working. And if having both quarterbacks out on the
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  Speaker 5: field is working, then that's what Utah needs to do.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think... We need to see Bird throwing the
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  Speaker 4: ball more.
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  Speaker 5: I think that Devin has been an efficient passer through
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  Speaker 5: four games. I've liked what I've seen from him in
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  Speaker 5: terms of his development as a passer.
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  Speaker 4: He's going through his progressions a lot better. So for
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  Speaker 4: the most part, I'm fine with what he's doing. It was,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Bird played only seven snaps versus Iowa State, which.
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  Speaker 5: Was like his lowest snap count since I can't remember
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  Speaker 5: which game last season. But they're tailoring the offense to
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  Speaker 5: what the defense is giving them.
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  Speaker 4: So as of right now, no complaints from me on
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  Speaker 4: that area as well.
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  Speaker 1: What we saw from Iowa State last week against West Virginia, look,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think West Virginia is on Utah's level defensively,
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  Speaker 1: but Aiden Flora has now done to everyone except Utah
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  Speaker 1: something similar to that, where he's averaging eight-plus yards a
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  Speaker 1: carry against normal competition.
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  Speaker 3: Against Utah, he's lucky to get four.
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  Speaker 1: He's 212 yards of rushing and then a couple of
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  Speaker 1: touchdown passes. Now that we look at it all in hindsight,
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  Speaker 1: and of course two weeks of hindsight really clarifies things
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  Speaker 1: for you, should we be talking more about what Utah
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  Speaker 1: was able to do in containing one of the best
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  Speaker 1: players in the Big 12 Conference, at least through these
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  Speaker 1: first few weeks?
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  Speaker 5: I think so, because Flora, even before that, the week before, he...
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  Speaker 5: we played Iowa state played Utah. I think he also
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  Speaker 5: had like a big game and in multiple aspects, he
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  Speaker 5: was catching the ball. He was rushing the ball and
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  Speaker 5: he was being.
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  Speaker 4: Used in special teams action. And he just ran wild.
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  Speaker 4: So I do think that some credit needs to be
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  Speaker 4: put on this Utah defense, specifically the defensive line and
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  Speaker 4: the linebackers for being able to limit him. I know
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  Speaker 4: that the big concern.
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  Speaker 5: Heading into the season was run defense. And if Utah
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  Speaker 5: can limit someone who then rushes for 200 yards and,
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  Speaker 5: to what like I think it was like 50 or
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  Speaker 5: 60 is what he rushed for versus Utah I it's
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  Speaker 5: very encouraging and I think a lot like attention needs
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  Speaker 5: to be put on that and I think attention needs
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  Speaker 5: to be put on the run defense as a whole
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  Speaker 5: like they haven't given up more than 115 yards all
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  Speaker 5: season on the ground and they've had some some talented
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  Speaker 5: running backs and some talented mobile quarterbacks that have been
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  Speaker 5: lining up.
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  Speaker 4: Across from them and so I'm encouraged by.
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  Speaker 5: That area I think that Flora is a.
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  Speaker 4: Very good running back. I think that he has the
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  Speaker 4: potential to be one of the top three backs in
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  Speaker 4: the conference this year. I think it's him, LJ Martin,
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  Speaker 4: and Wayshawn Parker are at least my top three right now.
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  Speaker 4: And so it's going to be interesting to see how
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  Speaker 4: teams continue to scheme against him or if they are
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  Speaker 4: able to stop him because Utah gave a good blueprint
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  Speaker 4: on what you should do. It's just a matter of
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  Speaker 4: if teams are able to follow it. And I agree,
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  Speaker 4: West Virginia is not... at the level of Utah in
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  Speaker 4: terms of run defense. I think their.
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  Speaker 5: DC made a comment about that either yesterday or today,
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  Speaker 5: and it's kind of making its rounds, but yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: credit needs to be given to that defensive line, especially
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  Speaker 5: giant Carson. Like the two of them were just playing
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  Speaker 5: at an insanely high level versus Iowa state.
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  Speaker 1: All right, what is the most troubling or alarming thing
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  Speaker 1: about the Kansas matchup on Saturday night?
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  Speaker 5: I honestly, like, the thing is, I think these two
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  Speaker 5: teams stack up pretty, like, statistically, if you're looking through
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  Speaker 5: the stats, like, they stack up well.
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  Speaker 4: I am interested to see.
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  Speaker 5: How Utah handles Iowa's run defense. They have been pretty
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  Speaker 5: stout up front throughout the most part of the season.
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  Speaker 4: First four games of the season.
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  Speaker 5: But also there.
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  Speaker 4: Was concerns about Utah's running game heading into Iowa State
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  Speaker 4: because Iowa.
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  Speaker 5: State also had a strong run defense. And I think
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  Speaker 5: getting Keith Olsen back out there was a big part
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  Speaker 5: of the success we saw.
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  Speaker 4: You saw Kelvin Obot see some added time and started
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  Speaker 4: even versus Iowa State. So I'm excited to see how.
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  Speaker 5: This run offense attacks the Kansas run defense. I think
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  Speaker 5: that this team is invigorated.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're excited to be back out there, especially
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  Speaker 4: after the bi-week and stuff. So I think that's my
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  Speaker 4: biggest thing right now. I don't, there's nothing that's like,
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, like how is Utah going to stop this?
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  Speaker 4: Or how is Utah going to attack this? That's really
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  Speaker 4: like lingering in my brain throughout. Cause I went back
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  Speaker 4: and watched Kansas starting last week. I mean, I watched
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  Speaker 4: that Kansas Missouri game earlier in the season and I
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  Speaker 4: there was game plans.
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  Speaker 5: Like I, Missouri was able to throw the ball effectively
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  Speaker 5: on Kansas, but.
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  Speaker 4: Then Kansas was able to shut down Arizona state. So
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  Speaker 4: it's just one of those things where it's like, what
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  Speaker 4: Kansas are you going to get? But run, run ground
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  Speaker 4: game for Utah's offense is a big thing. I'm excited
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  Speaker 4: to see.
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  Speaker 1: So, uh, it's been a couple of weeks. Uh, way
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  Speaker 1: Sean Parker is an absolute monster. Uh, the, uh, 20-something
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  Speaker 1: touches feels a lot better for me than what we
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  Speaker 1: saw against Utah State. But when you do that, you
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  Speaker 1: take away opportunities from his backups. You take away opportunities
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  Speaker 1: from other guys in this offense. And it's a wonderful
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  Speaker 1: problem to have. The correct number of touches for way
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  Speaker 1: Sean Parker in a Kansas game and maybe moving forward
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  Speaker 1: is how many for you?
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  Speaker 5: It's hard because I can see them leaning into way
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  Speaker 5: Sean a lot more.
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  Speaker 4: If the team that they're.
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  Speaker 5: Playing against has bad run defense, but then if you're
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  Speaker 5: going up against.
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  Speaker 4: A team that has a weak secondary.
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  Speaker 5: I can totally see way Sean's touches going down because
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  Speaker 5: they're going to try and throw the ball. Like McGiven
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  Speaker 5: has said that this offense is.
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  Speaker 4: A pick your poison and it's, it's really looking.
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  Speaker 5: Like that through four, four games. So I don't really
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  Speaker 5: know if there is a significant, like what the solid
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  Speaker 5: number should be in terms of carries for way Sean
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  Speaker 5: or touches for way Sean, but yeah, if the team
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  Speaker 5: is giving you like, Oh, we're going to sell out
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  Speaker 5: for the passing game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. You're going to, you're going to keep running it
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  Speaker 4: with way Sean until they can show you that you're
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  Speaker 4: going to stop it. So I don't really know. Like,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that's like a cop-out answer for me,
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  Speaker 4: but it feels like this offense, like Morgan said, every
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  Speaker 4: single week, somebody knew it stepped up to the plate
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  Speaker 4: and done something.
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  Speaker 5: And that's making it hard for defenses to key in
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  Speaker 5: on Utah.
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  Speaker 4: And so if, if it means way Sean.
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  Speaker 5: Getting less touches, like it was versus Utah state, but
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  Speaker 5: Braden pagan's eating in the passing game, um, I personally
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  Speaker 5: don't have any issues with.
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  Speaker 4: It, especially if Utah's coming away with the win.
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  Speaker 1: Coming out of the bye, you've got to have good
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  Speaker 1: practices during a bye week. Yes, it's nice to get
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of rest, but you had good momentum
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  Speaker 1: going in, so you don't want to lose any of
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  Speaker 1: that if momentum from game to game is even a
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  Speaker 1: real thing.
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  Speaker 3: Some people believe it's not.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at what this team needed to tweak,
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  Speaker 1: needed to fix heading into the bye week, and we're
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  Speaker 1: working on during the bye week, I put you in
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  Speaker 1: charge of And there's something that you get to fix
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  Speaker 1: or improve or alter coming out of the bye week.
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  Speaker 3: What is that thing?
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  Speaker 5: I think offensively, it's just the boneheaded penalties that kind
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  Speaker 5: of limited things earlier in the first few games.
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  Speaker 4: Like you have.
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  Speaker 5: Weishan's long touchdown run that's taken back because it's illegal man.
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  Speaker 4: Downfield on Alex Harrison. You have, I can't remember, I
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  Speaker 4: think it.
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  Speaker 5: Was Steve Chavez's Soto's touchdown versus Idaho's taken back because
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  Speaker 5: Wilmani's called for a holding.
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  Speaker 4: There's some of those Those penalties that shouldn't be called,
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  Speaker 4: or not they should be called, but some things that Utah.
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  Speaker 5: Could clean up in that area that would lead.
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  Speaker 4: To additional points that are being scored that were taken
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  Speaker 4: off the board. So I think that's offensively the biggest
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  Speaker 4: thing for me.
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  Speaker 5: Defensively, it's getting those defensive ends to actually finish.
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  Speaker 4: Because Lance has been.
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  Speaker 5: in the backfield quite a bit this off either this
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  Speaker 5: season and he hasn't been able to come away.
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  Speaker 4: With a sack so it's it's finishing those.
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  Speaker 5: Plays for those defensive ends getting those sacks because Utah
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  Speaker 5: already has 11 sacks on the season.
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  Speaker 4: I know people will think that this team doesn't have
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  Speaker 4: a lot of sacks already but they have 11 I
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  Speaker 4: was looking.
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  Speaker 5: At the number this morning and majority of those sacks
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  Speaker 5: are coming from the linebackers and then the defensive tackles
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  Speaker 5: have the.
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  Speaker 4: Second most so if you can get those.
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  Speaker 5: Defensive ends getting those sacks it just makes this defense
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  Speaker 5: even stronger because if If Lance is crashing down, they're running,
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  Speaker 5: and Ethan Day's right there to finish it up. That
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  Speaker 5: leads to another sack, and that helps this defense put
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  Speaker 5: these offenses into some passing situations, which let those two
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  Speaker 5: pin their ears back and go at it. And maybe
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  Speaker 5: Jackson Benny comes up with another interception, or.
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  Speaker 4: Scooby, or Eli Reed, or whoever's back there in the secondary.
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  Speaker 4: So I think those are the two big things. I
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  Speaker 4: think there hasn't been anything truly... glaring about glaring.
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  Speaker 5: Weaknesses, in my opinion, on, on this team this year,
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  Speaker 5: I think that everything is run kind of smoothly. We,
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  Speaker 5: I kind of have a better idea of.
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  Speaker 4: Who this team is that I did maybe three, like
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  Speaker 4: right before the season started, but you know, there's still
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  Speaker 4: a lot of football left to be played.
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  Speaker 1: So Let's talk about the big 12 at large, every
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  Speaker 1: single week or every chance we get to talk to you,
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  Speaker 1: the expectations have to be shifted.
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  Speaker 3: Around the league.
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  Speaker 1: Utah's been consistent. Utah's 4-0. Texas Tech is still undefeated,
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  Speaker 1: but has shown maybe some vulnerabilities in certain places. BYU's
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  Speaker 1: dealing with some injuries now that are very significant. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: two of your best five players are out this weekend
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  Speaker 1: against Iowa State.
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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma State in the rankings. Houston in the rankings. And
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  Speaker 3: that's a game that's coming up for the Utes.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at the top three, four teams in
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  Speaker 1: this Big 12 conference, how do you handicap them?
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  Speaker 5: It's so hard because like you said, I think Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 4: Has showed some deficiencies. We saw it versus Colorado. We
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  Speaker 4: saw it versus Houston. I think that.
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  Speaker 5: I'm very interested to see how BYU looks versus Iowa
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  Speaker 5: State on Friday, especially like we talked about with Aiden Flora.
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  Speaker 4: Isaiah Glaster is a big part of their run defense,
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  Speaker 4: and with him out, I don't know how this.
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  Speaker 5: Defense is going to handle Flora. Because if Flora is
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  Speaker 5: able to run wild, I don't know if BYU's offense
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  Speaker 5: has what it takes to respond, especially because we saw
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  Speaker 5: what this offense looked like without L.J.
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  Speaker 4: Martin last week.
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  Speaker 5: And I know people are probably screaming at their radios, well,
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  Speaker 5: the weather, the weather.
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  Speaker 4: I get that. I get the weather, but you were
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  Speaker 4: only effective with bear running the ball.
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  Speaker 5: Like that was the only reason. And bear even then
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  Speaker 5: only had like what, 66 yards of rushing.
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  Speaker 4: So I, I am very interested to see how BYU
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  Speaker 4: reacts to those two key pieces being out this weekend
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  Speaker 4: versus Iowa state. Um, I Houston, I'm still confused about,
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  Speaker 4: I have, they look, they have games where they look
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  Speaker 4: really good.
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  Speaker 5: And then you have to have a come from behind
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  Speaker 5: victory to beat UCF. You had it in the bag
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  Speaker 5: versus Texas tech for most of the game until that,
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  Speaker 5: that last call at the end of the game.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't really, it's so weird.
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  Speaker 5: This conference feels really open this year, but at the
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  Speaker 5: same time, I feel like the first team that makes
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  Speaker 5: a mistake out of those top four of Utah is
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  Speaker 5: a TC or Texas tech, BYU and Houston, the first
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  Speaker 5: one to make another mistake or a big mistake for
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  Speaker 5: the top three, I think is going to be on
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  Speaker 5: the outside looking in.
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  Speaker 4: I think the margin for error is so small in
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  Speaker 4: this conference this year that it's just, just be clean.
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  Speaker 4: And if you can stay clean, you're probably going to
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  Speaker 4: be in a good position heading into November and December.
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  Speaker 3: Speaker 3 If we.
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  Speaker 1: End up with like a Baylor, Arizona conference championship game,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be real mad.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: It's going to be, that's the other thing is like,
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know what to think about Baylor. I don't
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: know what to think about Arizona. I don't know what
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: to think about Cincinnati.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: It's just this conference feels so funky this year that
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: it's not even funny. Like, like last year it was
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: very clear cut that it was Texas tech conference to lose.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: And then BYU and Utah were kind of.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: Fighting for that second spot.
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: But like this year, it's like, I don't know what
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: is going to happen. And on one hand that makes it,
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: it's fun. Every game means a little bit more than it.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Did before the season. But at the same time, it's like,
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: kind of annoying because it's like something funky.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: Is probably going to happen, which, which I don't like. I,
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: it's just weird.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: It's the weird conference OC.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I don't think Utah ever gets to be
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: part of a normal conference. That's just the way things are.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah. The PAC 12 days. That was also weird
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: with the amount of tiebreakers that Utah needed to get
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: into title games. And then, yeah, it was just a mess.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Just flip coins at the beginning of the season and
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: figure it out that way.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: That is still one of the weirdest tiebreakers, in my opinion,
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: is that they're going to flip a coin and have
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: predetermined who's head and who's tails. Because the way this
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: conference rolls, somehow they're going to flip the coin and
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: it's going to land in a crack on.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: The sidewalk and it's going to stay upright. And then
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: they're going to be like.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: Well, I guess we're going to have to move down
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: to tiebreaker Z or something. It just feels weird. It's
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: I wish there was.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Divisions because it would make things so much easier, so
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: much easier when it comes to, to conference game standings
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: and stuff like that.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Well, um, your thoughts on the icy white helmets.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: I love them.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Um, I fun fact, this is like a fun story.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: I was actually talking to, uh, John Leone.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: He's one of our staff writers over at Utona and he's,
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: Student editor at the.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Daily Utah Chronicle as well. I was literally talking to
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: him at the Utah State game, not knowing that these
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: hand-painted helmets were like, this was like what the idea
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: was for the hand-painted helmets. I said, it would be
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: really cool if Utah did a script Utah helmet.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Because I thought it would be, I think that's like
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: the one logo that remains untapped. for this Utah football program.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: And so I didn't even know that this was where
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: they were at. I, for hand painted helmets. And then
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: I had heard like literally like right after the Iowa
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: state game that this is what it was going to be.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: And I was like, did I manifest this? Am I
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: the reason that this is happening? I know I'm not,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: but like, it was like one of those things that
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: was like a weird coincidence.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Hey, maybe, yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe we should be thanking
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: you for these cool helmets.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Hey, you know, if you need something manifested, I'm your gal.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: Let's just say it that way. Let's just put it
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: that way. I like them. I'm a big fan of them.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: I think that hoodie that they announced this morning with Bird,
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: and it's like the ice drip, the icicles dripping off
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: the script detail. I love it.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of the hand-painted helmets, have always been,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: will always be a fan of them, but I love it.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: It's like the last logo that remains untouched for football,
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: so I'm excited.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Wait, where's the hoodie? I haven't seen it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Utah football posted it on Twitter this morning. See, where
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: have you been? It's almost like you've been on the radio.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry. I'm not always on Twitter. Oh, sick. Yep.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Whiteout merch. Whiteout merch.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: It's nice. It's really nice.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Final prediction for the game on Saturday night.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Utah wins, Utah covers.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: I don't really know what my score prediction should be,
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: especially now that there's rain in the forecast, there's wind
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: in the forecast.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: But I do think Utah wins. I do think Utah
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: covers that 15 and a half.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Maybe it's running touchdowns. Maybe there's a break where the
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: wind's not a factor.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: And Utah's able to air it out. But I do
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: think Utah's going to win this game.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Sammy, you're the best. See you up there. Thank you.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Thanks, OC. Talk to you later.