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Spotting Red Flags Could Save Someone's Life | Ep 257 · Voices for Voices®

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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Hey everyone, Justin Alan Hayes, here again for another episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: This particular episode we're going to do a little bit of talk about, a little bit of research on the, on the ways that it appears that some, some of these individuals who look to be doing some things that aren't very appropriate, and that's where our guest, mr David Solomon.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: He's the house guest.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we have information, we have stories, we have experiences and this is an important moment to be able to, as we receive information and thoughts and ideas and all that, to bring awareness to these, again tough topics to talk about, to think about, to think could potentially be happening close to us, near us, and aren't always happening far, far away.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So, david, thank you again for joining us on this episode and, as always, let's get started.
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  David Solomon: Thank you, justin, for having me.
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  David Solomon: You're welcome.
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  David Solomon: Yeah, I was talking to the manager in Oregon City of a hotel.
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  David Solomon: I was talking to the manager in Oregon City of a hotel and we were actually talking about what happened to me, and some people kind of remember a little bit of that story Because my mom was very savage and she would search the hotels out where I was held at in Seoul, and so I kind of want to talk about how hotels are taking responsibility and for you as people that stay at hotels or if you work at at hotels just to look for some signs.
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  David Solomon: So if there is a kid that comes with a guest and they don't look like them, don't hesitate to call the police.
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  David Solomon: If there's a large group of kids and they say they're from a church group, don't hesitate to call the police.
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  David Solomon: These are two ways that human trafficking is very big in the state of Oregon, and had someone called the police the day that I was taken there, this would have never happened.
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  David Solomon: So not all hotels are bad at all, but there are some that allow this to happen because it makes money.
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  David Solomon: Allow this to happen because it makes money.
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  David Solomon: When I was there, they put me on a list and this is a trigger warning.
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  David Solomon: You know they sold me for what's called a QV, which apparently means quickie and I don't know what else, or HH, which is half an hour, or WH, which is whole hour, and so the person paying for time with me, the money would go to them and they would do what they want to me, which they did 200 people did.
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  David Solomon: It's kind of amazing because growing up I thought like prostitution was not online where you can just access it like that.
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  David Solomon: But these people just have these websites out there where they just type in what they want and meet up and it's so dangerous, so dangerous.
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  David Solomon: So one thing that is really concerning with hotels is prostitution is huge and whenever you have people going in and out of a room, it's a sign of prostitution and that's a big, big problem.
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  David Solomon: And and that's a big, big problem and you know, prostitution is illegal in the United States, but no one really cares.
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  David Solomon: I met a prostitute in Raleigh, north Carolina.
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  David Solomon: Actually, at treatment, my mom was investigating the site that I was sold on because she found it.
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  David Solomon: I was sold on because she found it and people all over the internet found it, and I just listened to what this prostitute had to say because she was older and she knew a lot of things, and you know it's not right, but my mom nevertheless bought her a hotel room for a week and instead of, you know, watching her prostitute and all that she got her on her feet put her into a ministry at a church there.
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  David Solomon: She's a worship leader now, by the way, nine years later, and she really helped me as a person, know that these things happen and you're not a mistake for them happening.
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  David Solomon: That before I could move on because it affected every part of me.
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  David Solomon: What happened and seeing God change her and I was in a dark place really moved me to change.
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  David Solomon: And then my mom, you know, started raising awareness at hotels and, you know, educated what to look for.
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  David Solomon: It's sad that most human trafficking cases actually take place in hotels.
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  David Solomon: What happens is you meet up on a list I think it's called Alligator Listie or Crawler Listie.
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  David Solomon: When I was put up for sale it was on Craigslist, but it has different names apparently every year.
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  David Solomon: But they tell you the hotel room, you come in, you knock, you pay for your time and you go and these people that are prostitutes which technically I was one, whether willingly or not.
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  David Solomon: They don't want this.
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  David Solomon: Thankfully, I wasn't drugged, which was a miracle of God, but people that are, that are used sexually over and over and over, can't handle it, and so they just take drugs and opioids and they get high because they want to forget and they're just a body to use and that's a very dangerous place to be and very demonic in origin and I've seen it.
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  David Solomon: It's oh, for the longest time.
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  David Solomon: After what happened to me, my church called me the whore child, you know, which was not right.
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  David Solomon: Still is it, but I had to forgive myself and say that happened and it was horrible, but God is with me and these are bruises and burns and they're not permanent and so they heal with time.
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  David Solomon: And so my message today is about the topic that's very uncomfortable, about prostitution.
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  David Solomon: People don't think that these people that are prostitutes have lives.
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  David Solomon: They think they're homeless and that's just not it.
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  David Solomon: A lot of prostitutes are doing this because they're in debt and they're good people and unfortunately, unfortunately, the devil has made men think one way and they see that and it's all a game to them and that's sad but true.
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  David Solomon: I've gotten the honor of meeting, but true, I've gotten the honor of meeting a lot of men and women on this street when mom was doing her ministry, all I saw was brokenness.
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  David Solomon: Mom would go out of her way to help them, guide them to whatever ministry she could.
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  David Solomon: You know what's going on in their life, because they're a human being too, and we treat them as lesser because they're, you know what we call sluts, and they're not because you might be a slut to them.
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  David Solomon: And so we judge people because of the way they dress or the way they look, their skin color, and that's not what Jesus wants us to do.
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  David Solomon: Right, and although I'm not proud of it, one of the prostitutes that mom helped was a writer, and so I spent all night at a restaurant.
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  David Solomon: It was, let me think, here, richmond, virginia, and my mom read her book and we just listened to what she had to say.
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  David Solomon: She was a mom and she had a whole journey.
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  David Solomon: And mom got her help with the mission, the gospel mission.
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  David Solomon: She got her life turned around, but I got to really listen to what she'd endured.
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  David Solomon: People that find out you're a prostitute.
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  David Solomon: They kill you Because they think you're a demon or a succubus.
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  David Solomon: In my mom's writing that she goes through, she actually wrote a prostitute series about someone that would go undercover and catch traffickers and I can't say the name of the series, which is a show, and catch traffickers.
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  David Solomon: I can't say the name of the series, which is a show.
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  David Solomon: She was very passionate because of what I went through, to see that these people had faces and stories and they have voices.
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  David Solomon: We're talking about mental health.
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  David Solomon: There was an individual in San Antonio His name was Mike, anyway, he was a prostitute.
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  David Solomon: Me and mom had been living outside of San Antonio and she noticed him.
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  David Solomon: I was afraid but she walked right up to him.
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  David Solomon: She offered to go in her car and get some food for him, whatever he'd like.
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  David Solomon: Anyway, a friendship grew where every morning she would take this young man food.
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  David Solomon: He lived under the bridge at that time.
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  David Solomon: He was homeless, he was a prostitute and it turned out that he was a drug addict.
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  David Solomon: But a good guy, was a father, screwed up, did about 10 years in prison at the age of 14.
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  David Solomon: Figured that one out, killed someone, became a prostitute to make ends meet and when mom showed him kindness, that reflected.
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  David Solomon: About nine weeks later when someone jumped my mom.
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  David Solomon: We were in downtown San Antonio and he was under the bridge and we were walking the riverwalk and someone jumped my mom.
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  David Solomon: It was within a second of him doing his drugs and whatever he was doing over there that he saw that and he ran to that person that beat my mom up and he almost killed them and he said no one hurts good people.
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  David Solomon: Police came, they didn't arrest him because he was defending my mom, believe it or not, and he turned his life around after that, went to a rehab clinic and got his daughter back.
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  David Solomon: I don't know if he's married now, but he got his daughter back.
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  David Solomon: His daughter was nine, bless his heart, and it was from that moment that I knew that prostitutes were people too.
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  David Solomon: And so you know, I saw footage on a site of me when I was in that it was hard to swallow for a day, um, but then I said you know, that was then.
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  David Solomon: I couldn't really do anything about it, and that was then.
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  David Solomon: I couldn't really do anything about it.
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  David Solomon: And that doesn't had to forgive myself for seeing that horrendous moment.
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  David Solomon: I thank the person for coming forward that provided that, as hard as it was to see.
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  David Solomon: And we talk about mental health and we talk about mental health and we talk about mental awareness and we talk about our vets and we talk about suicide and we talk about all these subjects, but we don't talk about prostitution and there's such a need for people caught in that to know that they're loved and to know that there's someone that cares for them.
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  David Solomon: That's what my mom taught me and so I hope to follow that legacy.
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  David Solomon: That's actually why I don't surround myself with a lot of guys.
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  David Solomon: Honestly, I was raised by my mom and so a lot of my mentors in the writing world are women and that's just a fact.
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  David Solomon: And that's only because I was raised by my mom and and I respect women because my mom was a single parent and she raised me and she did a hell of a job.
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  David Solomon: And it's not to say I have select few people that are guys, but very select, because all the guys failed me in in trying to be a someone to look up to.
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  David Solomon: Brian James, you know the list goes on.
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  David Solomon: So it's really hard for you, the listener, looking at a prostitute, and say I care about this person.
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  David Solomon: You should, because they're a follower of Christ, they're his children.
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  David Solomon: You don't know where they come from, you don't know what their mindset is, you don't know what they're going through in that moment and that's so important.
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  David Solomon: And if you stay at a hotel like the Best Western in Oregon City, know the signs.
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  David Solomon: Allegedly, sarah Rose drove me up with Shiloh Clover now in the white van to the Oregon City Hotel, right by my mom, to sell me.
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  David Solomon: It still fathoms me why I didn't say anything.
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  David Solomon: But I know I'd been starved and like I was beside myself, I was sweating and fever.
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  David Solomon: I saw the video.
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  David Solomon: It was something.
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  David Solomon: But the signs were there.
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  David Solomon: I didn't look like them.
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  David Solomon: They held me by the wrist.
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  David Solomon: They said we're here to check in.
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  David Solomon: They paid cash.
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  David Solomon: They made sure that it wasn't a ground floor so that they could secure all the exits.
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  David Solomon: It was a dangerous moment.
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  David Solomon: That was a dangerous moment.
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  David Solomon: Another podcast a year ago, I think it was T-Rev.
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  David Solomon: I spoke on what happened at that hotel.
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  David Solomon: I was crucified for it and that's fine.
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  David Solomon: But I want the world to know that this happens every day.
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  David Solomon: I was just one out of hundreds sure in that hotel and it's so horrifying to know this is happening.
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  David Solomon: There was a La Quinta in Des Moines I was sold to and another hotel in Fife, washington, and it's the same idea.
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  David Solomon: They look for a second floor and tell that security so that pimps can watch the floor, instead of a ground floor where there's a lobby and there's more security, instead of a ground floor where there's a lobby and there's more security.
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  David Solomon: That's just.
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  David Solomon: That's a sign you have to watch out for is people coming in and out of a hotel room?
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  David Solomon: You know it's not a good thing Unless you're having, like, a birthday party or something.
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  David Solomon: You know so.
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  David Solomon: But my message today is you never know what someone else is going through.
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  David Solomon: And prostitution is so big and heavy on my heart because it was heavy on my mom's and she went out of her way to help women that were caught in a bad place and men and, for that matter, transgenders too and she would get them back on the right track.
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  David Solomon: She helped a young woman in Roseburg, oregon.
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  David Solomon: There was a woman in Astoria.
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  David Solomon: She, she didn't make it, she, she, she didn't want to get clean in the end, so she overdosed herself in front of my mom.
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  David Solomon: I wasn't there, my mom was in deep prayer and she overdosed.
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  David Solomon: She overdosed.
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  David Solomon: It was hard on my mom because she said you can't help someone that doesn't want to be helped or saved, and she didn't want to.
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  David Solomon: It's a hard moment.
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  David Solomon: It was a very hard moment.
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  David Solomon: So my mom would go out of her way to reach out and say it's going to be okay, and to the person that they took my mom from me you robbed the world of a gem.
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  David Solomon: So don't judge a book by its cover and know that people out there enough and by just simply saying how are you today?
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  David Solomon: Go out of your comfort zone.
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  David Solomon: Jesus didn't hang around people that were rich and, in the world's terms, perfect.
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  David Solomon: He hung around people that were sinners, prostitutes, actually Gamblers, gamblers.
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  David Solomon: He saved them, he talked to them, and those are the people that need reach.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that is my message for today thank you, thank you for being so as always, so transparent.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That is my message for today.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you, thank you for being so as always, so transparent, talking about sensitive topics and, especially, lending your experiences as well Would you care to close us out with a prayer?
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  David Solomon: Yeah, that would be fine.
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  David Solomon: One thing I will say before that is, in my experience, after the first hotel, I was coming up through Oregon City and there's a Shiloh Inn.
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  David Solomon: Shiloh happened to be the person that was sitting beside me in the white van.
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  David Solomon: I watched people come out of that inn that were being prostituted and all I saw was I'm never going to make it out of this with them and I encourage anyone listening that is caught in that you can, but you have to make the first step and say I want to leave this.
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  David Solomon: All right, here we go.
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  David Solomon: All right, here we go.
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  David Solomon: Okay, father god, for anyone that is caught in an addiction, help them to know that you can help them through that.
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  David Solomon: You are the ultimate divine doctor and physician.
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  David Solomon: Lord um, watch over everyone that is in a hard place, lord, in this mess that we are in, as we continue to pray for mercy, lord, for truth to be revealed in this situation, in the case and in Realm and Scott and Brian and James and Shiloh and all these people involved, lord and Quinn and Sarah Kaleen and all the people involved, we pray for your angels of protection around the victims, the survivors that have endured.
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  David Solomon: We pray for your angels of protection around their children, as they've endured.
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  David Solomon: We pray for mercy to prevail.
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  David Solomon: We pray for truth to come to light.
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  David Solomon: We pray for the people who are innocent to not be preyed on and that you would just shield them from this darkness that is plunging into your kingdom and that you would kick that out.
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  David Solomon: We thank you for all the good things that you do each and every day for us.
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  David Solomon: We thank you for the doors that you've shut so that other, bigger doors can open.
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  David Solomon: We thank you that truth is being revealed.
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  David Solomon: We thank you for strength and endurance spiritually, mentally, physically and we thank you for having the opportunity to share these moments for viewers to hear.
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  David Solomon: Thank you in your precious name, amen.
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