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Drive Thru News #71 - Is car culture as we know it... Dead? · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Welcome to Brake Fix's Drive Thru News, your monthly recap for everything fast,
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  of wheels with a side of entertainment and just a dash of tire smoke
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  How's everybody doing?
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  You know, we're doing… I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a little pissed off this month
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  Oh, I can't wait to hear this rant.
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  I wanna come at this episode swinging, and I want you guys to talk me off
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  the ledge, because I know we're wrapping up car week, we're getting
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  ready to resume the Formula 1 season.
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  August is just one of these blech kind of months.
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  It's hot, it's gross, it's humid.
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  Everything you can check off the list just sort of gets under your skin.
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  But there have been so many posts this month, I have to ask
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  you guys, is car culture dead?
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  We just went straight into it.
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  I'm coming out swinging.
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  Yes, car culture's dead.
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  Car culture's been dead for a little while.
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  Let's walk back from that, 'cause that's the edge.
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  That's, "The world is ending, the sky is falling, everything is over.
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  Let's pack it up and sell it all and, and be done with it." I believe this
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  episode title should be Chicken Little.
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  Is it the end or are we at the beginning of something new and something different?
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  It's the end of the world as we know it.
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  And I feel fine.
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  I mean, does that make us dinosaurs?
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  We like cars of a certain age, because we feel the peak car was in the '90s
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  going into the 2000s, that kind of stuff.
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  You know, nothing is better than Volkswagen from the early 2000s.
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  I mean, that's an exaggeration.
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  But the point is, have we passed our prime?
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  Not us, not you, me, and Tanya.
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  I'm talking about cars.
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  Car culture, has it passed its prime?
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  Well- Yes … watching The Commish has taught me anything, yes.
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  Oh, oh, please do fill me in.
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  Because Murder, She Wrote doesn't have nearly as many cool cars.
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  One watches Murder, She Wrote for the guest appearances, and one watches The
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  Commish for all the German appearances.
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  My God.
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  Corrados, 1928s, Audi 5000s,
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  Passats.
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  I mean, somebody was a Volkswagen Audi enthusiast.
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  You remember that show Viper?
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  It was, like, all the Chrysler prototypes on that show that you could think of.
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  Stuff that they never made or they made one of was on that show.
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  I mean, have you ever seen a show that had a Corrado?
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  There's been two so far.
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  The Gran Turismo movie.
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  Gran Turismo had a N- uh, had a Corrado in it.
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  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  That's right.
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  It's his father's car.
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  He drove his father's car- Yes … and he- That's right … went and did
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  some nefarious stuff, and then got in trouble- That's right … and yeah.
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  But anyway.
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  Well, we haven't finished the talk about the car culture.
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  Okay, okay.
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  What, what?
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  Tell me.
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  Enlighten me.
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  Well, this is our showcase.
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  I, I think this is the head of the showcase, and you're Chicken Little.
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  Car culture's dead.
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  It is.
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  I mean, they, people have been talking about how kids, like the
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  next generations and then the next generation after that, like fewer and
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  fewer people are getting their license.
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  Fewer and fewer people are driving.
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  Fewer and fewer people are owning cars.
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  There's that, and then there's the advent of all the new cars all look the same.
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  They're all blase.
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  Yeah.
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  You've got this EV, the self-driving concept, where I have a car, but
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  it's literally becoming an appliance.
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  And then you have- This new manufacturer, no more manual.
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  This one, no more manual, and it's, and it's like what do we have left?
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  Well, some of them are no more cars.
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  And the subscription-based pricing for features and stuff like that too.
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  That too.
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  Yeah.
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  It's insane.
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  Like, it's sucking the life out of it.
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  That's the culture that up and coming generations, that's all they know.
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  That's the tech bros and how they make money.
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  That's the reality.
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  Yeah, they have subscriptions for their cell phones.
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  You know, they, they, they don't buy anything.
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  They, they lease their cell phones.
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  They trade up every six months, every year when a new one comes out.
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  Same thing with computers and iPads, and cars aren't any different.
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  Let's talk about the phones for a second, 'cause I had an epiphany.
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  And I was talking to my wife about this.
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  The other day, I remember where I was, I saw a young lady bust out a flip phone.
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  Some people are going back to that.
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  But here's the deal.
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  As much as I wax poetic about my Motorola Razr and how it was, like, the coolest
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  phone, and it was the best 'cause it fit in your pocket, it was super lightweight,
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  and the battery lasted like three years without charging it, the whole nine yards.
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  There was a lot of suck in that phone, right?
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  But this modern flip phone, to say that, "Oh, I don't wanna have a smartphone,"
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  watching this person use it, trying to take a picture, and I guess because
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  we're just so accustomed to the iPhones and the Androids and whatever, I hate
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  to say it, she looked like a doofus.
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  You look really stupid holding up a flip phone trying to take a
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  picture, and watching that flash come out of the hinge and every-
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  I was like, what decade are we in?
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  Like, it was so backwards.
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  And that's when I had the epiphany that when you go around and you're driving
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  an old car amongst all these younger folks, maybe coming into their peak
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  earning potential, buying the Teslas, buying the new Corvettes, buying the
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  Porsche GT3, 'cause that's all they sell, are you the guy with the flip phone?
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  Yes, in their eyes.
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  Yeah.
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  Here's the other piece of it, too, to Brad's point, how people live their
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  lives right now, that's their culture.
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  Yeah.
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  So however they view cars is now their culture.
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  So it's like every decade's progression where back in the day, that Elvis
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  Presley rock and roll music was, you know, the devil's hips, and oh
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  my God, and don't let your children see it and listen to it, right?
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  And, and then the next culture was like, "That's crap," you
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  know, the next generation.
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  "I like," you know, whatever the next hot thing is.
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  Disco or whatever, yeah.
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  And then so on and so on and so forth, right?
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  So are we now those people?
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  Translate that thread to car culture.
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  The generations before us, the people that owned the '60s
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  cars and stuff like that- Yeah
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  their car culture was you go to the drag strip, or you drive up
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  and down the, cruise the boulevard.
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  You know, you go to a car show and you set up a sign, and you sit next to your
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  car, and people come out and talk to you.
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  Our culture was more you drive the car.
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  You did a couple stupid things, maybe a little bit of street racing.
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  You took 'em to the track, did a track day.
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  You know, you'd go to a swap meet.
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  You, you didn't really polish up the car too much because people like to see
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  cars that were driven kind of thing.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  You know, we enjoyed our cars.
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  Now they do it for the views.
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  They do it for the clickbait.
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  They take pictures.
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  For the 'gram.
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  They buy these cars.
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  They don't do anything to 'em.
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  They pay somebody else to do everything to them.
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  They get views and clickbait and everything, and th-
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  then that's their culture.
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  But- I think we are, we are the dinosaurs.
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  Well, that's another good point, because those people that are still
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  around that grew up with those '60s, '70s muscle cars, they are still very
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  much ingrained in their viewpoint.
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  All them new fern cars that were coming out, those little Japanese
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  sports cars and these little Volkswagens were pieces of crap.
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  They did.
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  And it was 'Merica, horsepowers, and, and they probably still view
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  it that way, that tho- that was the greatest generation of cars.
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  Of course, and, and we think peak car was our generation of cars.
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  They probably think peak car was their generation of cars.
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  And those folks still control the collector market and the collector values.
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  That's the other thing, too.
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  You go to any auction, it just blows your mind that a Camaro from the '60s
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  is bringing in a million dollars.
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  You're like, "Why?" They're also the ones that have the wealth.
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  Yeah.
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  Something that we talk about at my company, because this is something
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  we, is a very real thing that we have to deal with right now, is
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  there is a huge shift in transfer of wealth that's about to happen.
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  Yes.
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  As all those people that generated all that wealth, all those baby boomers
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  are dying off and leaving money to the younger generations, what's
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  gonna happen with all that money?
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  And the same thing with these cars.
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  Like, what's gonna happen with these '60s Camaros and GTO Judges
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  and 442 Cutlass Supremes and stuff?
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  Like, what's gonna happen to all these when the, the- Yeah … baby
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  boomers that own them die and transfer them to their kids?
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  Their kids have zero attachment to those things.
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  They're gonna flip 'em.
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  They're gonna sell 'em.
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  They're gonna dump 'em.
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  They're gonna make a quick buck.
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  They're gonna put it into crypto.
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  They're gonna go out, they're gonna buy an R34 GT-R, or they're gonna- Mm-hmm
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  … buy a GT3 RS or a, a right-hand drive FD or a Mark 4 Supra or, or whatever.
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  They're just gonna dri- And the, those prices are, they're already inflated.
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  They're gonna inflate even further.
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  That car culture is gonna die off, and our car culture is already singing its swan
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  song as we get older, 'cause we all die.
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  Well, whatever happened to the car culture of the pre-boomers?
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  I mean, granted, cars aren't that old.
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  You're talking, like, the Packards and the Duesenbergs and all those cars?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  My Tin Lizzie is the best.
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  No.
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  Oh, my God.
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  Top speed, 37 miles an hour.
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  But no, like, what, what ha- We don't even talk about those cars or those people
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  anymore because it's, they're all gone.
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  Yeah.
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  And the same thing's gonna happen to the muscle cars of the '60s.
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  You know, the same thing's gonna happen to the car.
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  Like, the malaise era is the malaise era.
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  We can just skip over- No, the mal- Nobody wants those cars But the cars
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  of the '90s and 2000s, give it 20, 30 years when all- Oh, yeah … of us start
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  dying off, if we're lucky enough to live that long, nobody will talk about the
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  Mark 4 Volkswagen, the 1.8T Fiero cars.
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  It's just not gonna happen.
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  Dude, that pains me too because I still see these groups online that are taking
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  20th anniversary cars and, and R32s, original R32s, and just stripping them
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  down and basically throwing them away.
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  And I'm like, "Well, I guess that means the value of all the ones that
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  are left just goes through the roof," which was the same problem with the
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  914 community where they were junking them and racing them and trashing
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  them, and then they were like, "Oh, nobody wants these cars, they're crap."
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  And then now you can't get into a 914 for less than 100 grand if you want
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  a nice one, you know what I mean?
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  It's craziness.
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  So I, I agree with you there.
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  But to dive into the showcase, Tanya brought an article that I think
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  talks about the first part of this conversation, which is digging in your
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  heels and staying in your lane and staying in your generation of cars.
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  So Tanya, you wanna talk about this particular article
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  from The Wall Street Journal?
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  I, it was something about this guy not wanting to buy new cars because
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  he wanted low-tech cars, but the cars he was looking at, if I recall,
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  they were still in, like, it was in the 2000s or '10s, I don't remember.
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  But it w- it, wherever it was with the year starting with a two,
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  it was still in a window of time where there was tech in the cars.
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  And I was like, "Bro, if you're really trying to go techless, you
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  need to go another decade backwards.
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  You still have a lot of tech even in a mid-2000s, 2010s era car.
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  They still have a lot of tech in them.
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  You still have backup cameras and this, that, and the other.
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  If you wanna eliminate all that, you're going earlier."
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  We've obviously surpassed it, but I feel like there was a sweet spot-
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  Yes … where there was enough tech to make driving still fun, still convenient.
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  Like, you bring up the point about the backup camera.
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  It's very effective, it's very helpful.
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  There was a point where the harmony between cars and
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  technology was pretty much perfect.
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  2008, that's the year.
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  Yeah, 'cause that was when, I think that's when backup cameras were mandated
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  as m- as, uh, standard equipment, right?
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  Certain cars had Bluetooth, and a lot of them s- still didn't yet.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  It's in that range, and it's in that time window where the nannies were really
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  primitive, so they stayed out of your way so you could still drive the cars.
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  But once you got to 2010, 2014, you saw the end of that.
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  That was like the, stretched it out to some of those- Yeah … cars were
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  still kind of in that sweet spot.
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  But really, 2008, I kinda dug back into this, is really the
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  year where things changed.
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  That was the sweet spot.
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  That was the, a perfect harmony between automotive excellence and technology,
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  up-and-coming technology on the rise, but it didn't interfere with the driver.
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  Right.
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  And you could still enjoy the car, you could still enjoy
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  the features that the car had.
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  You were still in control of the car.
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  It wasn't signaling back to Big Brother- Yeah … the mischief that you were
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  committing in your car and all that.
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  Gone are those days.
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  I, I understand the want to drive cars with fewer and fewer technology.
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  There wasn't, I, I don't agree with zero technology whatsoever, because I do feel
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  there was that sweet spot where you could have your cake and you could eat it too.
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  A problem I think about often, especially with the, the fact that I just bought a
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  25-year-old car, is parts availability.
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  Yeah.
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  You brought up a great point about how people are dismantling and
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  destroying and disassembling these, what we thought were collector cars.
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  Like the- Right … the original Mark 4 R32, the 20th anniversaries.
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  Just to stick in the Volkswagen lane, you know, people are dismantling
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  'em like they're Toyota Corollas.
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  Like- Yep … they have zero value whatsoever, which is making it even more
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  difficult in the future to be able to find parts for these cars, which makes
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  it harder to keep them on the road.
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  And the other piece that we haven't even talked about yet is- Government
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  oversight Yeah The government wants you driving the newer cars with the newer
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  technology because they can track you.
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  They've got systems in place to monitor you and see what you're doing, see
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  where you're going, blah, blah, blah.
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  Eventually, I think it's gonna get to a point, especially with the current
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  landscape, they're just gonna make driving all cars before a certain age illegal.
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  Yeah.
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  If they can't track you because they don't ha- it doesn't have X,
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  Y, Z, or … I mean, I'm probably tin foil hat theory here now or
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  whatever, but not necessarily wrong.
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  No, but then it becomes like that movie we reviewed, The Last Chase, right?
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  Where he buried his car underground, and then when the apocalypse came-
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  Mm-hmm … they couldn't track him because he was in a, you know,
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  1917- Well- … Chevron thing.
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  They, they wouldn't … I, I think it's too extreme probably to say that
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  they'd ban them, but- I don't know
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  they'd probably make it, well, if people play by the rules, everything's historic,
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  and you can only drive it on a weekend.
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  And you can only drive it- Yeah … to a show, and you basically can
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  only drive it 2,000 miles a year.
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  And so then it just becomes a paperweight in your driveway.
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  Think about what's going on in California with the tires.
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  We talked about it- Yeah … last episode.
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  But I think they actually passed the law.
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  I, I don't know if it's fully in effect yet or not, or if it's gotta
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  get past the state Senate or whatever, but they're trying to pass that law
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  to mandate that you can only buy a certain kind of tire, which makes,
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  like, 75% of the tire market illegal.
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  All they have to do is make it illegal, and then we can't drive our cars anymore.
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  Yeah, it's craziness.
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  Which may be extreme, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.
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  So, uh, like I said, there's two sides to this conversation.
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  The one side is those of us are digging in our heels, and we want our old cars,
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  and we wanna keep our old cars going.
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  I mean, we sound just like the baby boomers, right?
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  I wanna drive my '57 Chevy even though it's LS-swapped, and it's all good.
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  You know, that kind of thing.
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  But on the other side of the coin, you said, Brad, people trying to
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  hit that nostalgic nerve there, trying to get people excited.
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  And then there's companies like Ford that comes up with this.
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  Just like the Mach-E, I don't wanna call this a Mustang.
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  This is, quote-unquote, the Mach 4 Sedan, and this is how Ford is
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  gonna be getting back into cars, says the headline from MotorTrend.
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  If they just made it two doors, that's not even bad-looking.
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  It looks like an Aston with a Mustang nose on it.
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  You know, if they just made it two doors, it would just be a fucking Mustang.
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  Exactly.
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  Ah!
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  So to Tanya's point, I actually don't think it's a bad-looking car.
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  I think it's a very good-looking car.
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  Where I have issue is that they keep beating a dead horse and
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  putting the Mustang nameplate on cars that it does not belong on.
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  On everything.
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  I'm okay with it even just being called the Ford Mach 4.
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  Call it a Mach 4.
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  Do not call it a Mustang.
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  Call the Mach-E whatever the fuck you want.
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  It's great.
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  Call it a Pinto.
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  I don't care.
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  It's not a Mustang.
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  Don't call it a Mustang.
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  I'll agree.
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  Styling-wise, I like it.
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  I wouldn't call it a Mustang.
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  I don't know what to call it at this point.
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  Let's just stick with the Mach 4.
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  But if you're okay with this, Brad, you being former Camaro
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  guy, are you okay with this?
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  Thank God that's just a rendering.
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  It looks just like a Mustang.
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  And they're saying that the next Camaro might be a four-door.
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  So where Ford goes, Chevy follows, right?
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  Again, don't call it a Camaro.
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  Call it a Caprice.
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  I don't know.
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  Call it a HHR.
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  I don't care.
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  Don't call it a Camaro.
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  There are some names, some badges- That are sacred … that
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  are sacred, that mean something.
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  The Mustang, the Camaro, Corvette.
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  Germany, they all use numbers and letters because, you know, they
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  don't know how to formulate words.
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  So the 911, the M3, whatever.
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  I don't know, I'm going down a rabbit hole.
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  But yeah, don't call it a Camaro.
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  Yeah.
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  Don't call it a Mustang.
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  Now, if we keep it in this two-door shape, this looks better than the current Camaro.
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  I will say that.
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  Well, there is no current Camaro.
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  They don't make it anymore, right?
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  The last generation Camaro.
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  Yeah.
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  The most current ZL1 that was produced, you know, however
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  many years ago or whatever.
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  So I like it.
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  I think it looks good.
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  It begs the question if there is room at the table in 2026 and beyond for
• 17:26
  muscle cars, and we're gonna touch on this again as we go on, because muscle
• 17:31
  car culture is a whole nother thing, pulling on those nostalgic heartstrings
• 17:35
  there with those types of cars.
• 17:37
  So I wanna come back to that.
• 17:38
  We're gonna put a pin in that for just a second.
• 17:40
  Tanya mentioned it before.
• 17:42
  Integra.
• 17:43
  Ah, the Integra.
• 17:46
  Honda is halting the manual Civic Si and the Integra A-Spec.
• 17:52
  So just to add more fuel to that fire, even the Japanese are
• 17:56
  deleting the manual transmissions.
• 17:58
  We know Toyota's been working on that fake manual transmission for a while.
• 18:02
  There's rumors about Subaru coming back with manuals.
• 18:04
  They already got rid of those.
• 18:06
  If it's no good for the Germans, 'cause they've declared no more manuals as of the
• 18:10
  end of this year, so Honda's getting in the… So who's gonna have a manual left?
• 18:14
  Anybody?
• 18:14
  Nobody.
• 18:15
  Subaru.
• 18:16
  They don't count.
• 18:16
  They have a class action lawsuit and all sorts of dumb stuff going on.
• 18:20
  You sure they even gonna be in business?
• 18:21
  So, I d- I wanna see is there an actual link for this article?
• 18:25
  'Cause I wanna see the reasoning behind why they're halting it.
• 18:29
  Just ask Gemini
• 18:32
  So it says that they are pausing the production of the manual transmission
• 18:35
  versions of the Civic SI and Acura Integra after the 2026 model year,
• 18:40
  driven by upcoming shifting EPA emissions regulations and certification
• 18:44
  rules for 2027 and later models.
• 18:46
  Honda intends to bring the manual powertrains back once regulations
• 18:50
  clear up, potentially around 2028.
• 18:53
  Lies, lies.
• 18:53
  So it's, I, I mean, it says temporary.
• 18:55
  So basically the laws have changed.
• 18:58
  They need to reconstruct the manual transmission to fit with the new laws.
• 19:05
  I think the Japanese have the same problem that the Germans have, but not as bad.
• 19:09
  They don't know how to gear their manual transmissions.
• 19:12
  The Americans, it's like double, triple overdrive.
• 19:15
  You're doing 1,500 RPM in a four banger at 80 miles an hour.
• 19:19
  The Germans, it's like 4,000 RPM, 80 miles an hour.
• 19:23
  Must be at maximum one-to-one ratio of speed always.
• 19:26
  Ah.
• 19:28
  And the cars are, like, burning themselves out, and it's like gear
• 19:31
  them down so they get better mileage.
• 19:34
  A long time ago manuals were more efficient than automatics are.
• 19:38
  I think the automatics today are, are a lot better than these old
• 19:40
  slush boxes that we're used to.
• 19:42
  So is there an advantage?
• 19:44
  Mm, probably not, but I, I like having three pedals.
• 19:48
  True.
• 19:49
  But I also think given the initial part of the showcase, talking about
• 19:55
  car culture and is car culture dead, I believe the manual transmission
• 19:58
  is a part of our car culture.
• 20:00
  Exactly.
• 20:01
  And our car culture is dying, so it makes sense that it would go that way.
• 20:06
  Uh, you already just pointed out that- But wouldn't the kids that
• 20:08
  are buying the flip phones wanna drive a manual transmission car?
• 20:11
  They're doing it ironically, but the problem is- Ah … who's gonna
• 20:14
  teach them that skill to do it?
• 20:16
  There you go.
• 20:16
  All right.
• 20:17
  And where are they gonna buy if there's no manual transmission?
• 20:19
  ChatGPT will teach you how to drive a manual transmission, right?
• 20:22
  Yeah, I'm sure.
• 20:23
  Cha- I'm, you'll put ChatGPT right seat.
• 20:25
  I'm gonna put my computer there, and it's like, "Okay, how do I do this?"
• 20:27
  "Okay, Brad, here's what you do."
• 20:30
  Stalled out 12 times.
• 20:31
  You're doing great.
• 20:32
  Yeah.
• 20:32
  You, you- But this is what you really need to do … you push it to the
• 20:34
  dealership and swap it for an automatic.
• 20:36
  That's what you- Yeah, that makes- That's how you do it.
• 20:38
  So I think it's just another part of our car culture that's dying.
• 20:41
  Well, you gotta look at where populations are too because sitting
• 20:45
  in constant traffic crawling, what do you need a manual for?
• 20:49
  It's a purist thing that we're, we're trying to hold onto because it's fun.
• 20:54
  Personally, given the way technology has changed so much, there are
• 20:56
  no practical reasons really right now to have a manual transmission.
• 21:01
  They're definitely no fun at the track.
• 21:03
  I have not been in an automatic that has been fun, like, ever.
• 21:06
  Right.
• 21:07
  For your daily driving, there is no advantage to a manual.
• 21:12
  That's very true.
• 21:13
  You know, this next one, I want to talk about it with respect to car
• 21:17
  culture because normally we would've reserved this for rich people things.
• 21:22
  And this is- The Luce.
• 21:24
  We talked about this, we ranted about this, we made fun of this.
• 21:28
  Everybody doesn't like this from what I understand.
• 21:32
  According to the headlines, Ferrari has hit its sales target with these things.
• 21:37
  I think I know how.
• 21:38
  But I, I just want you guys to… Gut reaction, like, they're actually
• 21:42
  selling these pieces of crap?
• 21:44
  'Cause there's a shoe for every foot.
• 21:46
  Is that what it is?
• 21:47
  I was gonna say, they must be using the same data that Tesla uses when they,
• 21:52
  you know, announce their sales figures.
• 21:53
  Or they only made one.
• 21:56
  So remember, we have to hit our sales targets, right?
• 21:58
  They made one, they sold one.
• 22:00
  Job done.
• 22:01
  They sold one to this guy.
• 22:04
  They sold one to Dr. Herbert "Herbie" Wertheim for $40 million.
• 22:10
  That's Luce number zero.
• 22:11
  So all the ones we've seen pictures of, this guy bought it for 40 million bucks.
• 22:16
  You know what's funny?
• 22:17
  I thought that was Bernie Ecclestone.
• 22:19
  Willie Nelson.
• 22:21
  Yes.
• 22:22
  But sober.
• 22:24
  What I've come to find out is that this is the second time this gentleman has
• 22:28
  made, quote, "a donation" to Ferrari.
• 22:31
  He bought an SP3 last year for $26 million.
• 22:35
  Who is this?
• 22:35
  I would like to have this shoe store- This is Herbie.
• 22:35
  This is Herbie.
• 22:35
  He's, like, 100,000 years old.
• 22:37
  I would like to have this
• 22:43
  kind of no fucks money.
• 22:46
  He is a famed optometrist, philanthropist, billionaire inventor.
• 22:50
  Okay.
• 22:50
  Anyway, so he buys a SP3 for $26 million last year.
• 22:55
  The money goes to the Ferrari Foundation.
• 22:57
  He buys Luce number zero for $40 million.
• 23:00
  The money goes to the Ferrari Foundation.
• 23:02
  I don't think he took delivery of these cars.
• 23:04
  From what I come to understand, he's not actually a Ferrari collector.
• 23:07
  So what I'm thinking is, tell me how to launder money without
• 23:11
  telling me how to launder money.
• 23:16
  You know what I thought of?
• 23:17
  'Cause people were talking about this and how crazy it is.
• 23:20
  Ferrari Formula 1 cannot take a donation.
• 23:23
  They have to have a sponsor, and it is that.
• 23:25
  W- this guy isn't gonna sponsor Ferrari Formula 1, but if he makes a donation to
• 23:30
  the foundation and the money finds its way to the Formula 1 t- 'Cause what is
• 23:35
  Ferrari gonna use the $40 million for?
• 23:37
  Are they in that much debt?
• 23:39
  Well, I would think with a name like Ferrari Foundation, it should
• 23:42
  be a nonprofit, so they should be using it for nonprofit things.
• 23:48
  Lies.
• 23:49
  Lies.
• 23:49
  It's all lies.
• 23:52
  Lies.
• 23:55
  Let's just say that X amount, we don't know how many of these Luches that they're
• 23:59
  supposed to make, at $850,000 a piece.
• 24:03
  If they've allegedly met their sales targets, and you know Ferrari has that
• 24:07
  weird Ponzi scheme where you gotta buy in at certain levels to get accepted
• 24:11
  to the bigger levels, and then when you get to the big levels, then you can
• 24:13
  get to the, the really extreme stuff.
• 24:15
  They're like Fabletics.
• 24:17
  Yeah, right?
• 24:17
  So l- so you're telling me, let's say there's 100 of these things
• 24:21
  other than the one that they sold, I think is the only one that they made.
• 24:25
  There's 100 people out there that have put down 850 grand on that?
• 24:30
  So WhistlinDiesel probably will.
• 24:32
  Has he got that kind of money?
• 24:35
  Definitely.
• 24:36
  You know, The Stig mentioned him recently, talking about how he should've been one
• 24:40
  of the people that go on the new Top Gear.
• 24:42
  I was like, "No way." I would watch that.
• 24:46
  What?
• 24:46
  But he's too, he's too crass.
• 24:47
  Yeah, exactly.
• 24:48
  He's just not polite.
• 24:48
  He's not professional enough.
• 24:50
  So sticking with Ferrari, I got $850,000 burning a hole in my pocket,
• 24:54
  I'm gonna go buy that toaster instead of buying this, if they make it.
• 24:59
  This is, they unveiled this during Monterey Car Week.
• 25:01
  This is the Ferrari CZ26, and it looks like an SF90 and a Luce had a baby.
• 25:09
  So is this what Ferrari was actually intending on making the whole time,
• 25:13
  but it wasn't ready yet, so they had to come up with that other thing?
• 25:17
  Look at that.
• 25:17
  That's, that looks good.
• 25:18
  This looks like a Ferrari.
• 25:20
  You can't tell me that this is electric.
• 25:22
  I mean, it looks like a modern Ferrari.
• 25:25
  But it looks like a Ferrari.
• 25:26
  Yeah.
• 25:27
  Unlike the Luce, which I don't even wanna burn my retinas with looking at again.
• 25:32
  What does Luce translate to?
• 25:34
  Light.
• 25:35
  Light, okay.
• 25:36
  Ugh.
• 25:36
  Wanted to make sure it didn't translate to, like, stupid
• 25:38
  American or something like that.
• 25:40
  Only in dialect.
• 25:41
  Yes.
• 25:49
  All right.
• 25:49
  At the same time, we're talking about $40 million, you know, Luce
• 25:53
  Zeroes and $850,000 for this, and
• 25:57
  there's the CZ 26 and blah, blah, and then we got the Temerario Lamborghini
• 26:03
  coming out, which looks like an insect.
• 26:04
  There's also reports from The Drive talking about how the luxury market
• 26:08
  is crumbling from the top down.
• 26:10
  Now, I want to, again, car culture, words are really important.
• 26:15
  What does luxury mean to you?
• 26:18
  Generally, that would be something, and I don't even know if that's
• 26:22
  true anymore, I guess it still is, like a Lexus or Mercedes- Lexus,
• 26:25
  Mercedes, BMW … be luxury.
• 26:27
  Bentley, Rolls-Royce.
• 26:29
  Used to be Aston Martin as well, luxury.
• 26:32
  Aston Martin would be in there, yeah.
• 26:34
  No, I don't think a Lamborghini is a luxury car.
• 26:37
  No.
• 26:38
  I think it's a supercar.
• 26:39
  Yeah.
• 26:39
  Supercar brand, yeah.
• 26:41
  Every car on this except for this Rolls and the Bentley that they
• 26:45
  showed are all hypercars of s- or sports cars of some point.
• 26:49
  911, Mercedes SLS, even these Maseratis, these are not luxury cars.
• 26:55
  I would consider Maserati a luxury brand.
• 26:58
  Yeah, but the cars that they're showing are their sports cars, right?
• 27:01
  It's not like the big Quattroporte, you know, limousine of a car
• 27:04
  that you're gonna drive around.
• 27:05
  But the Valhalla, like, come on.
• 27:07
  That's… The s- no.
• 27:10
  Is the hypercar market collapsing?
• 27:12
  Sure, because who's gonna go out and spend a million bucks
• 27:16
  on a car that they can't drive?
• 27:18
  By the way, this Rolls-Royce down here, this was used on Your Friends
• 27:23
  and Neighbors with Jon Hamm.
• 27:25
  His buddy Barney drives one of these.
• 27:27
  It's actually really cool-looking.
• 27:28
  It's got suicide doors.
• 27:29
  They open the opposite way, which is pretty neat.
• 27:31
  Yeah, that's a nice-looking car.
• 27:33
  See, but that's a luxury car.
• 27:35
  I feel like this should go under rich people things.
• 27:37
  100%. But I just wanted to bring it up because we were talking
• 27:40
  about rich people things.
• 27:49
  But I wanna move on from that because we always have to segue into Volkswagen
• 27:54
  because they have lost their mind.
• 27:57
  But this actually dovetails right out of our showcase, and I don't know if
• 28:01
  you guys watched this video, but what is the fascination with OEM Plus?
• 28:08
  What is OEM Plus?
• 28:10
  Is this a new car culture thing?
• 28:11
  Like, I feel when the kids say words, you know, slang that I've never heard before,
• 28:16
  like OEM Plus, what does that mean?
• 28:19
  My guess is it's OEM with a mod or two.
• 28:23
  Well, is it like HBO Max, Paramount Plus?
• 28:26
  Like, is that the plus part?
• 28:28
  G- I could look at this different ways, and Tanya and I talked about this.
• 28:30
  The more of these that pop up with this OEM Plus stuff, a- and it's very much
• 28:35
  in the Volkswagen community right now, 'cause the Volkswagen community is not
• 28:38
  the same as it was when we were young.
• 28:39
  But then again, if we look back, maybe we were silly like them, too.
• 28:43
  I don't know.
• 28:44
  Basically, it's like, "Hey, I got a Beetle like yours, Brad, and I'm gonna put a Mark
• 28:48
  6 steering wheel in it." Boom, OEM Plus.
• 28:51
  So is OEM Plus just m- changing one or two things, or is it upgrading from one
• 28:57
  OEM part to a OEM part from another car?
• 29:01
  'Cause that's what you just described.
• 29:02
  All of the above.
• 29:03
  The goal to make a vehicle look, feel, and perform better using
• 29:06
  subtle upgrades that look like they came straight from the factory.
• 29:10
  Okay, so that's kinda how I like to do cars in the first place.
• 29:15
  You're an OEM Plus guy?
• 29:16
  I mean, I wouldn't call it something as stupid as OEM Plus.
• 29:21
  But yeah, I, I like subtle, tasteful mods.
• 29:25
  Now, I also want something bonkers and completely crazy and out of this
• 29:29
  world, but I'm on an OEM Plus budget.
• 29:33
  And I think when we were younger, we called it bolt-ons, right?
• 29:38
  Yes.
• 29:38
  And some of it was, okay, I bought a base GTI, and then they came out with the
• 29:43
  20th and they didn't tell anybody that they were coming out, and it's like, "Oh,
• 29:45
  man, I really want that black headliner or I want those seats," or whatever.
• 29:49
  And you would find it, like you said, at a swap meet from somebody that
• 29:52
  wrecked their car or took it apart or decided to put race seats in there.
• 29:56
  You know, we were OEM Plussing 30 years ago.
• 29:59
  So you just weren't cool enough to know- Oh … the term, because
• 30:04
  according to Autoblog, the term OEM Plus originated organically within
• 30:09
  the late '90s and early 2000s car enthusiast communities, particularly the
• 30:15
  Volkswagen, Audi, and BMW tuning scenes.
• 30:18
  Did you hear me throw up in the back of my throat a little bit?
• 30:21
  So- I, I, I think we can gloss over all the rest of that and
• 30:24
  just focus on BMW tuning scene.
• 30:27
  There, there you go.
• 30:28
  There's that too.
• 30:29
  Yeah.
• 30:29
  They're trying to lump Volkswagen into that, but no, I, I mean, Eric
• 30:33
  and I, and you, Tanya, we've been members of the Volkswagen scene
• 30:37
  for the better part of 30 years.
• 30:40
  No.
• 30:41
  Just nobody apparently was widely calling this, because roots and
• 30:44
  evolution of the style, it, does this not describe the VW, Audi subculture.
• 30:49
  Early Euro tuning scenes popularized taking base model Golfs or Jettas
• 30:53
  and upgrading them using rare parts from European spec variants or
• 30:57
  high performance factory models, like adding Audi or GLI parts.
• 31:01
  But did anybody call it OEM Plus?
• 31:03
  No.
• 31:04
  Allegedly, the term was there, but no one knew about it because nobody had
• 31:08
  the internet, so it was two people saying it in a back corner somewhere.
• 31:11
  Behind the Dairy Queen.
• 31:12
  So a flag on the play, because this is the problem with the internet
• 31:16
  rewriting history at any given moment.
• 31:19
  Could be that, too.
• 31:20
  You could write a blog tomorrow and say blah, blah, blah, and people go,
• 31:23
  "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That must be true. It- that's how it was done." This
• 31:27
  strikes me as a journalist or somebody tried to coin a term, it didn't go
• 31:32
  well, and now he's got a voice because of the social media and the internet.
• 31:37
  "I'm gonna create this term, and I'm gonna make it cool." Or you just see everything
• 31:41
  that's trending on Instagram, and you spin a tale and put some history behind it, and
• 31:46
  then suddenly people take it as gospel.
• 31:48
  We're, we're rewriting everything all the time.
• 31:50
  Thanks, Chad.
• 31:50
  I'm gonna pose a question to the listeners.
• 31:53
  Have you ever used the term or heard somebody that you know use the term
• 31:57
  OEM Plus before this episode airs?
• 32:01
  I think you're gonna get a big old negatory there, my man.
• 32:04
  Yeah, true.
• 32:05
  I will say, it's not new to this, the year 2026, though.
• 32:09
  At least dates back to last year, because there is a, and this is
• 32:12
  a reputable source, a Euro Tuning news article dated in, a year ago,
• 32:17
  actually, What Are OEM Plus Mods?
• 32:19
  See, I think it was a year ago.
• 32:21
  But, you know, if your source is Urban Dictionary, and that's a
• 32:24
  whole nother thing, too, right?
• 32:25
  J- just to pull on this thread a little bit further, Volkswagen community's not
• 32:28
  the first people that were doing that.
• 32:30
  I mean, people back in the '60s, I hate to keep going back
• 32:32
  to that generation, but- Right
• 32:33
  people back in the '60s were buying, you know, the cheapest model Charger
• 32:38
  or whatever that they could get, GTO or whatever, and they were taking
• 32:42
  the bits from the Judge or, you know, from the, the Scat Pack or whatever.
• 32:46
  Right.
• 32:46
  The 454s and stuff, and putting them on their cars.
• 32:49
  What were they calling it back then?
• 32:50
  Another question for the, the listening community.
• 32:53
  I don't remember, but I'm, I'm, I guarantee they didn't call it OEM Plus,
• 32:56
  but I'm sure they had a term for it.
• 32:58
  They're called mods.
• 32:59
  I always called it bolt-ons.
• 33:00
  Or mods.
• 33:02
  You're just making mods, right?
• 33:03
  Modding.
• 33:03
  You know, I'm, I'm modding my car with bolt-ons.
• 33:05
  To your point about the old guys, they were hot rodders, right?
• 33:07
  They were hot-rodding the cars.
• 33:08
  Yeah, they, they, they were souping up.
• 33:10
  They were souping it up, yeah.
• 33:11
  Yeah.
• 33:12
  Damn, look at this.
• 33:13
  We're peeling the onion back here.
• 33:15
  Yes.
• 33:15
  I have found an Urban Dictionary entry from 2016.
• 33:20
  She looked up shrimping.
• 33:25
  Tanya, that's inappropriate for this episode.
• 33:28
  They were talking OEM Plus back in 2016 at least, so we're going back in time here.
• 33:32
  We're slowly peeling the layers to see where this originated from.
• 33:36
  Who was?
• 33:37
  Somebody on Urban Dictionary.
• 33:39
  The same guy that wrote the Wiki entry for it, right?
• 33:41
  Yeah.
• 33:41
  When, when does it say that, that entry was created?
• 33:44
  In August 2026.
• 33:46
  Yeah, buddy.
• 33:47
  February 28th, 2016.
• 33:49
  Uh-huh.
• 33:50
  OEM Plus.
• 33:51
  Wow, look at that.
• 33:52
  Well- Yeah.
• 33:53
  It, it sounds so elegant.
• 33:55
  I, yeah, right.
• 33:56
  It's, yeah, it sounds very, very posh.
• 33:58
  I'm gonna get a OEM Plus badge for the Beetle.
• 34:02
  Can I get an OEM negative?
• 34:03
  Like throwing stuff away that was factory p- I'm gonna put that on the race cars.
• 34:07
  I'm OEM negative.
• 34:09
  I threw all the garbage away.
• 34:11
  You're always so negative.
• 34:13
  You, you simplified and added lightness.
• 34:15
  That's the Lotus way.
• 34:16
  Okay.
• 34:16
  Wait, OEM, that's kind of funny.
• 34:19
  OEM negative?
• 34:20
  Yeah.
• 34:21
  Dude, we should start posting on Instagram about how we're OEM negative.
• 34:25
  What, what's your car type?
• 34:26
  Oh, I'm OEM negative.
• 34:27
  Oh, I'm OEM positive.
• 34:30
  But then you could be like, "Look at what I threw away. Look at this garbage
• 34:34
  the factory made that was completely pointless," like the emission system
• 34:38
  on a Mark IV, that you don't need that to go racing, that's for sure.
• 34:41
  Your OEM carbon footprint.
• 34:43
  OEM negative.
• 34:45
  What's up?
• 34:49
  But anyway, let's stay on this Volkswagen thread for a second because,
• 34:52
  again, with the guys of Car Culture, I think this is what's wrong with
• 34:57
  modern cars and modern car culture.
• 34:59
  If you watch this video, this gentleman goes through the process of basically
• 35:05
  reformatting his transmission.
• 35:07
  I don't know what else to call it.
• 35:08
  It was like a complete wipe and restart, and he goes through this whole
• 35:12
  procedure and he's like, "Feel a slight lag or jerking from your trans-" And
• 35:16
  I'm like, "DSG and all these modern transmissions shouldn't have these kinds
• 35:20
  of problems." Well, it's a Volkswagen.
• 35:22
  Well, yes.
• 35:23
  And then we got the Kool-Aid rant from certain loyalists in our organization
• 35:27
  that are just like, "But this is the way, and this is this," and trying to justify.
• 35:31
  And I'm just like, "No." I'm honestly still confused.
• 35:34
  I don't know enough about automatic transmission vehicles,
• 35:37
  but this boggles my mind.
• 35:39
  The argument being that the car is learning how you drive, so if
• 35:43
  you drive aggressively and it's shifting faster, then it will
• 35:46
  just shift faster at all times.
• 35:47
  I'm sorry, that's stupid programming, because the car should know how I'm
• 35:52
  driving at all times and modify how the car shifts based on that, because there's
• 35:56
  real time data and it should be able to trend and forecast what you're doing.
• 36:00
  So just because two minutes ago I did a burnout off the line to smoke
• 36:04
  somebody, and it banged through the gears, doesn't mean two miles later
• 36:08
  when I'm just cruising that it should still be banging through the gears.
• 36:12
  If it sees your acceleration at a certain curve.
• 36:15
  No, I agree 1,000%, and even older ECUs and transmission modules
• 36:20
  could figure this stuff out.
• 36:21
  And with the advanced computers that are in cars now, I mean, maybe they need AI.
• 36:25
  If it's true that that's how Volkswagen transmissions are
• 36:27
  programmed, wow, that's dumb.
• 36:30
  Cars are junk.
• 36:30
  Or they're Terminators.
• 36:32
  Remember the Terminator, "I'm a learning computer." Well, they, then again,
• 36:37
  you're not very good at it, then.
• 36:39
  No.
• 36:39
  Because learning, you should be adapting continuously to how I'm driving and
• 36:43
  matching what I'm doing, like you would do if you had a manual transmission.
• 36:47
  Because you wouldn't just, some tool bags would, but if you're just
• 36:50
  cruising around you wouldn't be like, bang, second, bang, third.
• 36:53
  I'm doing 25 miles an hour.
• 36:55
  Like, really?
• 36:56
  I knew a guy who had a Mark3 VR6 Jetta who would never take it out of fourth gear
• 37:02
  because he liked the way it pulled all the time, so he would never put it in fifth.
• 37:06
  I was like, "You're out of your freaking mind. What are you doing?"
• 37:09
  He was OEM negative as well.
• 37:13
  I feel like there's a problem and this person needs to…
• 37:16
  There's like should be a recall on these transmissions if that's out there.
• 37:19
  Right?
• 37:19
  That'll be the next news article is a big massive recall on shitty
• 37:23
  transmissions from Volkswagen.
• 37:25
  Well, that's okay, because it's not gonna matter, because again from Motor1
• 37:29
  confirming that Volkswagen is about to kill h- roughly half of its lineup.
• 37:32
  It's already killed, like, half its staff, so.
• 37:34
  Yeah, that's true.
• 37:35
  And you know, we talked about this the last time, so I don't wanna beat this one
• 37:39
  down again, but I did post on our Discord.
• 37:42
  I was like, "Hey, I would love to find the truth to this," because they
• 37:46
  mention a press release in a worrying press release issued just minutes
• 37:49
  ago, you know, written like Dan Rather in the '80s or something here, like
• 37:52
  Walter Cronkite, the end of the world.
• 37:54
  And there is exactly here, the executive board present the future
• 37:57
  plan for Volkswagen, and inside of this they outline how they're gonna
• 38:01
  streamline by 50% and reduce this and that and do here, do there.
• 38:05
  And it's all very technical and German and whatever, but it's all there in black and
• 38:10
  white from Volkswagen as to what they plan to do for at least the short-term future.
• 38:15
  So maybe it's not a complete flag on the play?
• 38:19
  Well, because they'll cut half the workforce because they have AI now.
• 38:22
  Is that what they're using to program those transmissions?
• 38:24
  'Cause, uh- ChatGPT, set my transmission to harsh shifting, please.
• 38:30
  Oh, my God.
• 38:32
  And in 20 seconds reset it back to regular.
• 38:34
  But that's okay, because Audi says that their operating profits
• 38:37
  are holding steady despite a challenging first half of the year.
• 38:41
  Lies.
• 38:42
  Lies.
• 38:45
  I don't know how their operating profits are holding anything with Formula 1.
• 38:48
  They suck so bad.
• 38:50
  Not as bad as Aston and Cadillac and- They aren't the worst But they're pretty bad.
• 38:57
  They're solidly in the middle.
• 38:58
  We're going to talk about that during our stupid show name.
• 39:03
  Everything is great over at Volkswagen, okay?
• 39:05
  Everything is wonderful.
• 39:07
  Everything is awesome.
• 39:08
  Everything is awesome.
• 39:10
  Exactly, but you're still part of the team, you know?
• 39:12
  Yeah.
• 39:12
  It's all good when you still work there.
• 39:14
  I bring this up, and this should be rich people things, but I have to bring it
• 39:16
  up in this section because people might not know that things are so awesome at
• 39:21
  Volkswagen, I'm gonna mention it again, that they divested Bugatti and Rimac, and
• 39:26
  they've scuttled a bunch of other stuff.
• 39:28
  And in the midst of all that, you know, they made this thing.
• 39:33
  So what do we think of the Bugatti Bolide on steroids?
• 39:37
  This is the… I can't even pronounce this French word, so
• 39:40
  I'm gonna stick with Bolide.
• 39:40
  It's not a French word.
• 39:42
  How do you pronounce that, then?
• 39:43
  Well, it means fireball.
• 39:44
  Does it?
• 39:45
  Destrier?
• 39:46
  Destrier?
• 39:46
  I don't know how to pronounce.
• 39:47
  Destrier?
• 39:47
  Oh, sorry, I thought you meant Bolide.
• 39:50
  No, this.
• 39:51
  Oh, I didn't look at that.
• 39:53
  I didn't read that far.
• 39:55
  It's, like- … literally the second half of the first sentence.
• 39:58
  That also is steed.
• 39:59
  It is.
• 39:59
  It's got quad exhaust pipes coming out the back like the Batmobile.
• 40:03
  But here's the problem.
• 40:04
  I don't like the front.
• 40:06
  In profile it looks good.
• 40:08
  In the back it looks like something from LEGO.
• 40:10
  In the front it looks like a carp.
• 40:12
  This is a Pokemon.
• 40:14
  I- Look at the steering wheel.
• 40:16
  What is that?
• 40:17
  Liberace's hot tub, that's what this is.
• 40:19
  S- so in this smaller view of it, that looks like a cross-sectional
• 40:24
  area that you dissected a human, and you're seeing, like, the muscular- Yeah
• 40:29
  fibers and everything.
• 40:30
  That is the heinous interior.
• 40:32
  I mean, I'm sure these are all renderings.
• 40:34
  I mean, this is a little Knight Rider-ish going on here.
• 40:37
  I mean, I saw the Bolide when I was at Le Mans in '23, and they ran it on track
• 40:42
  to kind of show it off and everything.
• 40:43
  And obviously it's a little more subdued than this.
• 40:45
  It looked more like a Veyron Chiron than it did like this.
• 40:48
  But there's aspects of this that I really like, and then there's things
• 40:52
  about it I just absolutely hate.
• 40:53
  I mean, who's buying this?
• 40:55
  The luxury car market's collapsing.
• 40:56
  Well, that was my next point.
• 40:58
  So if that's true, what they're saying, and this is considered a luxury car, why
• 41:02
  are they even bothering to build this?
• 41:04
  And now Bugatti's on its own.
• 41:06
  So how long are they gonna last building stuff like this that nobody can afford?
• 41:11
  Maybe they're using Home Depot parts.
• 41:12
  Hey, now.
• 41:13
  Hey, now.
• 41:13
  Hey, now.
• 41:13
  That's reserved for a different car manufacturer.
• 41:16
  So earlier I mentioned the Camaro and the Mustang potentially being
• 41:21
  four doors, and then I also said to you, Brad, "Is there room in 2026 for
• 41:25
  muscle cars in today's car culture?"
• 41:28
  We're gonna put air quotes around car culture.
• 41:30
  And Stellantis has answered the call yet again.
• 41:35
  The call nobody made.
• 41:37
  What the fuck is that?
• 41:43
  This is the worst badge engineering I've ever seen.
• 41:46
  So it's the Charger Super Bee Sixpack.
• 41:50
  And if you know anything about the Sixpack from back in the day- Yeah,
• 41:54
  it was a six barrel carb, right?
• 41:56
  Correct.
• 41:56
  What is it?
• 41:57
  Triple Hollies or whatever the… Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm not a hot rod guy,
• 42:00
  so I'm gonna get pounced on for this.
• 42:02
  But the point is, the Sixpack was all about carburetion of the engine.
• 42:06
  So this is called the Sixpack because it's a twin-turbo six-cylinder making
• 42:11
  600 horse- It's all the sixes, you see.
• 42:13
  This, today's episode is brought to you by the number six and the color chartreuse.
• 42:16
  I thought it was because it ca- it came with a six-pack of
• 42:18
  non-alcoholic beer, 'cause that's the clientele that they're in.
• 42:21
  No, that's the car culture today.
• 42:23
  Yes, I would agree.
• 42:25
  I mean, can you call a twin-turbo six-cylinder hurricane-powered
• 42:29
  Charger a muscle car anymore?
• 42:31
  Like, what defines a muscle car?
• 42:33
  It's gotta be a V8 rear wheel drive, right?
• 42:35
  That's a good question.
• 42:36
  Everybody's got their own definition.
• 42:38
  Hold on, because I'm gonna draw you a parallel.
• 42:40
  In the olden times, you know, when we roamed the earth as dinosaurs, there
• 42:44
  were the Camaros and the Mustangs and all the other pony cars and all that
• 42:48
  stuff of our, you know, the Fox Bodies and, you know, all that kinda stuff.
• 42:51
  Yeah, Camaro and Mustangs.
• 42:53
  But then you had the AMG Mercedes, which everybody went, "Man, those
• 42:57
  are some German muscle cars."
• 42:58
  And then you had the Baker's hot rods, like, you know, the big Lincolns and stuff
• 43:02
  like that with the big V8s, you know, and the Marauders and all these other
• 43:05
  cars that existed that were out there.
• 43:07
  But you always knew what a muscle car was.
• 43:09
  V8, rear wheel drive.
• 43:11
  It was huge displacement Well, well, yeah, and huge displacement.
• 43:15
  Exactly.
• 43:15
  Like 9.2 liters that makes, you know, 250 horsepower or whatever.
• 43:19
  But you're right, it was huge displacement V8s.
• 43:21
  Like, that was- Yeah, like the Australian Holdens and the
• 43:24
  Monaros and all that stuff, right?
• 43:26
  What I'm getting at is BMW never had a muscle car until they put a V8 in the M3.
• 43:33
  Didn't come, but just, what, maybe 15, 20 years ago.
• 43:36
  So what I'm getting at is this new Charger with a six-cylinder turbo is stepping
• 43:41
  down and is akin to a six-cylinder BMW turbo, which is a real thing now, right?
• 43:47
  Because there really isn't a V8 M3 anymore.
• 43:49
  So is the M3 now a muscle car with a six-cylinder?
• 43:53
  It, it was always a six-cylinder, and there's plenty of other six-cylinder cars.
• 43:57
  Would you consider Mark 4 Supra?
• 43:58
  Would you consider that a muscle car?
• 44:00
  I don't think you can consider anything other than American cars muscle cars.
• 44:05
  I think a hallmark trait that has lingered is that these cars
• 44:08
  can only go in a straight line.
• 44:11
  And a German V8 car can corner.
• 44:13
  Except for an AMG Mercedes, they can't corner worth a crap either.
• 44:16
  They're more of a sports car.
• 44:18
  According to Gemini, a muscle car is an American-made two-door midsize
• 44:23
  coupe equipped with a massive high-displacement engine, usually a V8,
• 44:27
  in parenthesis, built for explosive, to Tanya's point, straight line
• 44:31
  acceleration at an affordable price.
• 44:35
  Ah, there's the extra part.
• 44:37
  It's not that luxury car like we were talking about earlier.
• 44:40
  No, it's got a, the engine power is usually a powerful V8.
• 44:43
  Drivetrain, typically rear wheel drive.
• 44:45
  Body style, generally two-door hardtops or coupes with aggressive, bold styling.
• 44:50
  Strictly for raw power and speed in a straight line.
• 44:53
  Also, did anybody notice these pictures, probably AI generated, some of them are
• 44:58
  two-door and some of them are four-door?
• 44:59
  Well, 'cause one's a Charger and the other's a Charger Plus.
• 45:03
  OEM Plus is what it is.
• 45:05
  OEM Plus.
• 45:06
  Yeah, my plus is two more doors.
• 45:09
  So I will say this, of all the interiors we've looked at probably in the last
• 45:13
  six months on cars that we bring up on this show, this has the nicest interior.
• 45:17
  I like the way this looks.
• 45:18
  This is gonna be an unpopular opinion, but I actually really like the interior
• 45:22
  of the desterior- the desterior interior.
• 45:23
  The, of the Bugatti?
• 45:26
  Yeah.
• 45:26
  The one that said looked like it was, like, an autopsy in there?
• 45:29
  Yeah.
• 45:30
  It was pretty terrible.
• 45:30
  Yeah.
• 45:31
  Hey, maybe that plays into, like, my love for horror movies, but- There
• 45:34
  you go There's obviously a bridge between muscle car, supercar, hypercar.
• 45:41
  Because, you know, when, during our days, supercars were the top of the line, right?
• 45:45
  The F40, the 959, the XJ220, the Countach, the Diablo.
• 45:50
  Those were supercars.
• 45:51
  There wasn't such thing as a hypercar like that Bugatti that we talked about earlier.
• 45:54
  And then below supercars were sports cars, so on down the line.
• 45:58
  I don't know where this one sits, but still in the Stellantis camp.
• 46:02
  Could love the headline here.
• 46:03
  Maserati realized nobody wants quiet supercars, and now it wants its V8 back.
• 46:08
  And Maserati's also considering putting a manual back in their car.
• 46:12
  But do you know what Maserati hasn't figured out yet?
• 46:14
  How to sell cars?
• 46:15
  Nobody wants a Maserati.
• 46:17
  Yes.
• 46:18
  The value on these will plummet immediately, just
• 46:21
  like all the rest of them.
• 46:22
  Yes.
• 46:23
  It is not bad looking, though.
• 46:25
  Yeah, for whatever reason, Maseratis are always seen as just, like, the
• 46:28
  red-headed stepchild of the Ferrari world.
• 46:31
  They are a bargain basement Ferrari, because oftentimes they
• 46:33
  have Ferrari engines in them.
• 46:35
  Now, granted, you've got all the rest of the Alfa Romeo
• 46:38
  Fiat stuff going on with it.
• 46:39
  But I met some people this summer who have his and hers Maseratis, and
• 46:43
  they're like, "They're really not that bad. They're easy to work on. The parts
• 46:47
  are inexpensive." And I'm like- What?
• 46:48
  … "These are some bargain basement cars." Are they inexpensive because these
• 46:52
  people are in an economic bracket where- … it is inexpensive to
• 46:56
  them, or are they really inexpensive?
• 46:58
  I wasn't going to pry, but that thought did cross my mind.
• 47:03
  We talked about this when we talked about F1, and how there's such a disparity
• 47:06
  between the teams and everything.
• 47:08
  Yes.
• 47:08
  And I brought up, I think, uh, the, the unpopular opinion that
• 47:11
  some teams just deserve to die off.
• 47:13
  And I think I used Williams as an example.
• 47:16
  As a team that, yes, it's got great racing heritage, great history.
• 47:21
  They were champions at one point, but for many, many recent years they proved
• 47:26
  to be back of the pack, you know, before we added more back markers.
• 47:30
  I was of the opinion that they should just go away.
• 47:33
  Yeah.
• 47:33
  You can't compete.
• 47:34
  You don't belong to be there, heritage or not.
• 47:37
  I feel the same way about Maserati as just a car company in general.
• 47:41
  Yes, it's got a great heritage.
• 47:42
  It's got a lot of enthusiasts for cars that they used to make.
• 47:46
  If they can't sell cars, then now's the time to find a different business,
• 47:51
  because if you can't sell cars, you don't deserve to be a car company.
• 47:54
  And yes, I feel that way about Volkswagen too, as much as it pains me to say.
• 47:58
  If Volkswagen can't make cars that people wanna buy and they start
• 48:02
  to die, then they need to die.
• 48:03
  So there's a definite distinction between the circus that is Stellantis
• 48:08
  trying to keep all of those plates spinning on little poles that
• 48:11
  they have, because they have these little fiefdoms everywhere, right?
• 48:14
  It's Fiat doing its own thing, and Ferrari's doing its own thing, and
• 48:17
  Maserati's doing its own thing, and nobody talks to anybody because it's all Italian
• 48:20
  histrionics, and there's hands flying everywhere, and all that kind of stuff.
• 48:23
  So we'll just leave that where it is.
• 48:25
  And then they added the French cars to the mix too to make
• 48:27
  things even more interesting.
• 48:28
  The Germans just think they know everything, and that they
• 48:31
  know what the market wants.
• 48:33
  That's been Volkswagen's problem for 50 years.
• 48:36
  They never bring the cars people want because they don't think those people
• 48:40
  are gonna buy them, so they give us a bunch of junk like rental quality Passats
• 48:44
  that people bought because they're like, "Well, it's this or a Nissan Altima,
• 48:48
  so maybe I'll try the Passat instead 'cause I've had an Altima before."
• 48:51
  But again, they're in a position even now where they're like, "This is the
• 48:55
  Volkswagen you should be driving." And everybody goes, "No, I want a manual
• 48:59
  transmission GTI that doesn't suck oil and burn its rings, and need a
• 49:03
  walnut treatment every 30,000 miles.
• 49:06
  Where are the cars of yesteryear?" "Well, we don't make those anymore.
• 49:09
  We make electric buses that no one gives two figs about." You know?
• 49:13
  It's like, come on.
• 49:14
  I know I threw out the dig about Volkswagen, but to get back to, to
• 49:17
  Maserati, let me ask you a question.
• 49:19
  Okay.
• 49:19
  It's kind of a hypothetical, but I think I already know the answer.
• 49:22
  Speaking about Maserati and their racing heritage and, you know, their
• 49:26
  desirability, can you name one person that had a m- poster of a Maserati
• 49:31
  on their wall when you were a kid?
• 49:35
  Maserati is the Oldsmobile Of the Ferrar- of the Ferrari ecosphere.
• 49:40
  Tell me I'm wrong.
• 49:41
  They are the Oldsmobile, they're the Buick, they're the not quite- Yes.
• 49:46
  Okay … the top, kinda under the radar.
• 49:49
  But some people want them because their dad had them and they were
• 49:52
  good cars, but majority of the people don't even know they exist.
• 49:57
  And I've often argued that Alfa Romeo is the Italian BMW, right?
• 50:00
  Where they make a car for everybody, 'cause every 10 minutes
• 50:03
  they're changing their design.
• 50:04
  Right.
• 50:04
  Which is my question to you.
• 50:06
  If this Maserati that we're talking about was wearing an Alfa Romeo badge and was
• 50:10
  painted red, would it change your mind?
• 50:13
  Not doing anything else but changing the logos, would you suddenly say,
• 50:16
  "Ooh, that's r- that car's really cool"?
• 50:18
  I mean, I think it's cool as a Maserati.
• 50:20
  To answer your direct question, yeah, I would say.
• 50:22
  It w- does it make it more desirable?
• 50:25
  Maybe.
• 50:25
  Does it make it less desirable?
• 50:27
  No.
• 50:28
  I mean, I just, m- the fact that it's a Maserati is, it's irrelevant.
• 50:32
  A cool car is a cool car.
• 50:33
  I feel like Maserati as a company doesn't really need to exist, to your point,
• 50:37
  because it could be sold as an Alfa Romeo.
• 50:39
  Right.
• 50:40
  It doesn't need to be sold as a Maserati.
• 50:42
  The Maserati is hanging on to something that doesn't exist anymore.
• 50:46
  Yeah.
• 50:46
  And they sh- they do not need to be around.
• 50:48
  I feel if Stellantis really wanted to make a wise business decision, they
• 50:51
  would get rid of Maserati and rebrand whatever, which they're already doing
• 50:56
  anyway, because Maserati, for the most part, most of their cars are s-
• 50:59
  something else rebranded, rebadged.
• 51:01
  Just get rid of the Maserati nameplate.
• 51:03
  Yeah.
• 51:03
  Nobody cares.
• 51:04
  Just, I don't care.
• 51:06
  The new generation doesn't care.
• 51:08
  Yeah.
• 51:08
  Fold them up under Alfa Romeo and call it a day.
• 51:09
  Exactly.
• 51:09
  Just, just all Maseratis are Alfa Romeos now.
• 51:10
  Done.
• 51:10
  I
• 51:14
  guarantee nobody would notice if the Maserati Levante- Oh my
• 51:18
  God … or the Ghibli, which is the Dodge Charger, disappeared.
• 51:22
  And you never saw one again.
• 51:23
  The only car that anybody would miss is the GT.
• 51:26
  That's true.
• 51:27
  The GranTurismo, which could be an Alfa.
• 51:29
  You know who might miss it?
• 51:30
  This guy might miss it.
• 51:33
  Oh, we can't not talk about domestic cars and take a visit over to General Motors.
• 51:38
  I didn't understand this article.
• 51:40
  Tanya, you read it.
• 51:41
  You sent it to me.
• 51:42
  I read it.
• 51:43
  I still don't understand it.
• 51:45
  I read it multiple times.
• 51:46
  What is our leader trying to say?
• 51:49
  Is he taking a dig at General Motors?
• 51:51
  Uh, it has to do with his seemingly infatuation with small cars
• 51:59
  and the kei car thing, right?
• 52:00
  Yeah.
• 52:00
  And so trying to tell them, I guess, they make cars that are too big.
• 52:04
  Well, yeah, and he's quoted as saying, "Your company, Mary, if you want
• 52:08
  it, I mean, you have the choice.
• 52:10
  It's tiny, a little beautiful car.
• 52:12
  I'm not sure you'd wanna get hit by one of your Silverados, okay?
• 52:15
  Or one of your Cadillacs.
• 52:16
  But you make them as safe as possible, right?
• 52:18
  You put a cocoon.
• 52:19
  You put, like, a little cocoon around them." See, I would've been a
• 52:21
  wonderful automobile- … designer.
• 52:24
  Like, this is absolute gibberish.
• 52:27
  Even the most hallucinogenic AI wouldn't come up with stuff like this.
• 52:31
  He is making a point that if you have seen the latest Silverado or the
• 52:36
  latest Escalade or just about anything that General Motors is making, if you
• 52:41
  painted them in camouflage, I would just say, "Yeah, those are military
• 52:45
  vehicles," 'cause they're massive.
• 52:47
  They're absolutely huge.
• 52:48
  They look like they're… You know, remember we talked about that Silverado
• 52:51
  that ran over that Lamborghini 'cause she didn't even see the guy?
• 52:53
  Now, granted, that was a bro-dozer, but the point is
• 52:56
  they're just big from the factory.
• 52:57
  So yeah, if I was driving a kei car, the little Daihatsu or something, or a
• 53:01
  Cappuccino, I mean, no, I would not wanna get hit by a Cadillac or a Silverado.
• 53:12
  So Brad, I wanna revisit something from last month.
• 53:15
  We were talking about Subaru, would you buy an STI if they did this,
• 53:19
  this, and this versus a Golf R versus a GR Corolla versus a Mazda 3 Speed.
• 53:24
  We kind of like racked them all up, and you said at the end of the day,
• 53:27
  your wallet dictated the answer.
• 53:30
  Your heart says you want a Golf R, but your wallet says, "I have a
• 53:34
  beer budget and I'm gonna take the Corolla because it's $25,000 cheaper."
• 53:38
  What if I told you that the GR Corolla now clocks in at $64,360?
• 53:45
  No, thank you.
• 53:46
  Would you still choose this over the Golf?
• 53:49
  Read what this says.
• 53:50
  $64,000 for a Corolla with no rear seats, no extra horsepower.
• 53:55
  So I could just buy a base one for less and take the seats out myself?
• 53:59
  Yes.
• 53:59
  Uh, yeah, I don't, I don't understand this, the last part.
• 54:01
  730 reasons it'll sell out immediately?
• 54:04
  Because they're only making 730 of them.
• 54:06
  Okay.
• 54:07
  So, well, that, that's just a stupid line.
• 54:09
  But they followed the Porsche model, where they take things
• 54:13
  away and charge more for the car.
• 54:14
  This is basically the Corolla version of a GT3 RS.
• 54:18
  Yes.
• 54:19
  You got it.
• 54:20
  No, when they first came out with the hatch, they had that,
• 54:23
  and it was the same thing.
• 54:24
  It was a racetrack ready.
• 54:25
  It had no back seats.
• 54:27
  I think it had a half cage in the back, and that was it.
• 54:30
  And it was sold for, I think at that time it was, 'cause this was
• 54:33
  already a couple years ago, it was like 50-something thousand dollars.
• 54:36
  But inflation, so you know, we're at 64.
• 54:38
  They're doubling down, Tanya.
• 54:40
  They're doubling down.
• 54:40
  OEM negative.
• 54:42
  Oh, this is OEM negative.
• 54:44
  They took stuff out of it.
• 54:46
  It's OEM negative.
• 54:47
  They stole Eric's idea.
• 54:49
  They went full OEM negative.
• 54:50
  Oh, man, see?
• 54:51
  Toyota always, always at the front end of creative thinking.
• 54:58
  Except those are the same ones that you took to the track and the motors blew up.
• 55:01
  Yeah, and they weren't covered under warranty.
• 55:03
  All right.
• 55:04
  Subaru.
• 55:06
  My God, Subaru.
• 55:07
  They are getting into the game.
• 55:09
  Monthly fees for remote starting your car.
• 55:13
  Shouldn't remote start at this point, especially if you have an automatic,
• 55:16
  remote start is like power windows.
• 55:18
  I mean, it should just be part of the car, standard option.
• 55:21
  From what I saw with, like, Lexus and I think maybe Mazda as well, I
• 55:26
  feel like it's a little misleading.
• 55:28
  It's not for, like, remote start completely, and please jump in
• 55:31
  and correct me if I'm wrong, but it's for the app that allows you
• 55:34
  to remote start from your phone.
• 55:36
  I feel like if you have a remote, you can still remote start, you
• 55:39
  know, in the, in that closed system.
• 55:41
  But if you want the convenience of the app on your phone to do remote start and
• 55:45
  various other things, I know Lexus does it this way, you have to pay for the app,
• 55:50
  and there's a subscription for the app.
• 55:51
  I don't know if it's for remote start altogether.
• 55:54
  It takes longer to do the stuff from your phone, especially after you've
• 55:59
  used your pin, your phone says, "Oh, it was offloaded 'cause you haven't
• 56:03
  used it in 10 minutes," gotta load the app, then it's gotta do two-factor
• 56:07
  authentication, and blah, blah.
• 56:09
  By the time you've done all that garbage, you could've walked up
• 56:12
  to the car and just started it.
• 56:14
  But I think you're making a fatal error.
• 56:16
  Oh, okay.
• 56:17
  You're assuming that people have common sense.
• 56:20
  Ah.
• 56:21
  This is the new car culture.
• 56:23
  They gotta have the car started for them, cooled a little bit
• 56:26
  before they get in because, "Oh my God, I just can't right now.
• 56:30
  It's so hot.
• 56:32
  I just can't.
• 56:33
  I can't even with this right now." First of all, younger generations, they
• 56:38
  all have their phones glued to their hands, so their phone is out anyway.
• 56:42
  They're already scrolling social media.
• 56:45
  They're already on TikTok and Instagram posting their reels and
• 56:48
  clicking views and all that stuff and talking to their friends.
• 56:51
  And so their phone is already open.
• 56:52
  They don't need to two-factor authenticate because they did that
• 56:54
  when they woke up in the morning.
• 56:56
  Ah, got it.
• 56:56
  And they never, never put it down.
• 56:58
  Well, that's a fair thing too, because you don't have a door lock cylinder
• 57:02
  on the, to open your car anymore.
• 57:04
  You don't need your key.
• 57:05
  It's just a fob.
• 57:06
  It's just a sensor that alerts in vicinity that you can unlock
• 57:09
  your doors and start your car.
• 57:10
  You're not putting that key anywhere.
• 57:12
  So if you have that key buried in your purse, a backpack, your pocket,
• 57:15
  but you have your phone glued to your hand, well, yeah, I can start
• 57:20
  my car and lock it with my phone.
• 57:21
  Why would I go dig through my pocket and pull my keys out?
• 57:23
  So why even generate a key?
• 57:25
  Why not- But today's car culture … yeah, why not just
• 57:27
  use the phone's NFC capabilities and, and open the door that way?
• 57:31
  Because that's how it's gonna charge you.
• 57:32
  It's like Apple Pay.
• 57:33
  Yeah.
• 57:33
  So to open the door, it's 50 cents every time you tap your
• 57:37
  phone against the door handle.
• 57:40
  You know what?
• 57:41
  I think Ford had it right when they had the little two-digit keypads.
• 57:45
  Yeah, yeah.
• 57:46
  They were ahead of their time.
• 57:47
  Like that guy in the first article, I don't want any of this stuff.
• 57:50
  I mean, I like remote start.
• 57:51
  I have it on my Jeep.
• 57:52
  I can be in my office and go boop boop in the wintertime, and it'll
• 57:56
  fire up and warm up and don't…
• 57:57
  But you know, it's a diesel, so it needs extra time.
• 57:59
  Anyway, but I was thinking about what you were saying, Brad.
• 58:02
  If you can communicate with this Subaru from your phone and remote
• 58:06
  start, that means the Subaru has cellular access, right?
• 58:10
  So it's connected to the grid.
• 58:11
  To your point of earlier, all these new cars are all connected
• 58:14
  to the Internet of Things.
• 58:15
  And so I don't want any of that stuff.
• 58:18
  But it also makes sense why they would charge a subscription fee, because who's
• 58:21
  paying for the cellular access to the car?
• 58:23
  Because the remote key fob just sends an RF signal.
• 58:27
  There's an RF, you know, receiver on the other side, and it goes,
• 58:30
  "Oh, s- I received the car start signal, and I'll start it."
• 58:32
  It doesn't need all this other infrastructure, Verizon and T-Mobile and
• 58:36
  all this other crap, to make it work.
• 58:38
  But I also wonder, for those that are addicted to their phones, if
• 58:41
  you're in the middle of Montana doing Subaru things like you're supposed to
• 58:46
  be doing, like the commercials say, how does one unlock and start their
• 58:51
  car when there's no cell service?
• 58:57
  Then they get, they get the special satellite cell
• 59:00
  subscription on their phone.
• 59:03
  They have the satellite phone so they can start their car.
• 59:05
  You gotta have Starlink to make it work.
• 59:07
  You pull out the phone from Jurassic Park.
• 59:11
  Do, do, do, do, do, do.
• 59:13
  What was the music it would do?
• 59:15
  As it was in the Tyrannosaurus rex feces.
• 59:18
  Oh my God, terrible.
• 59:21
  Well, Tanya, in spite of all this doom and gloom, you brought us an
• 59:25
  article that might shed a ray of hope.
• 59:28
  Car and Driver says, "These are the cars worth waiting for, 2026 through
• 59:32
  2030." And is there anything on here that would be worth waiting for?
• 59:36
  Okay, let's see how many of these we haven't already talked about.
• 59:39
  This is that weirdly Russian-designed rendering of
• 59:43
  what the Stelvio could look like.
• 59:45
  This wasn't even like a thing from Alfa Romeo.
• 59:47
  I remember we dug this up and we fact checked this car, so that one's junk.
• 59:51
  This is that TT new Volare thing that we don't like, so I can wait forever
• 59:56
  as long as that doesn't get made.
• 59:58
  The new BMW M3 got revealed at Car Week.
• 1:00:01
  I'm sorry, it's ugly.
• 1:00:03
  It's the size of an M5.
• 1:00:04
  It's huge.
• 1:00:05
  Well, it's also the IM3.
• 1:00:07
  Let's, let's just be- Yeah, yeah, it's got the electrical-ness
• 1:00:10
  in it … sensitive to that.
• 1:00:11
  The only thing I like on this is the wheels.
• 1:00:14
  That's it.
• 1:00:14
  I think the wheels are cool.
• 1:00:16
  Moving on.
• 1:00:17
  Silverado shouldn't be on this list.
• 1:00:19
  Nobody salivates over the next version of the Silverado.
• 1:00:22
  They just don't wanna be hit by them.
• 1:00:23
  This Camaro goes back to the Camaro we talked about earlier,
• 1:00:26
  although it looks like it's ready for the next Transformers movie.
• 1:00:29
  Dodge Charger Hellcat V8.
• 1:00:32
  See, the V8's gonna be the OEM plus now.
• 1:00:34
  You're gonna be stuck with a six cylinder, and then you're gonna want the V8.
• 1:00:38
  I don't like those wheels on that.
• 1:00:39
  It looks terrible.
• 1:00:40
  Dodge Copperhead.
• 1:00:41
  I read about this.
• 1:00:42
  This is sort of the return of the Viper without being the return of the Viper,
• 1:00:46
  and Dodge wants to get into the pony wars.
• 1:00:49
  So if you look at the body styling, there was a Copperhead concept back when
• 1:00:53
  the second generation Viper came out.
• 1:00:55
  I actually have a model car of it.
• 1:00:56
  Pretty interesting, but I don't see that ever coming.
• 1:00:58
  I'm just gonna skip over whatever that thing is.
• 1:01:01
  Then we got the Mustang Dark Horse, which already exists, so
• 1:01:03
  this is just an- another whatever.
• 1:01:06
  The Ranchero as a pickup truck.
• 1:01:08
  Which is just a Maverick.
• 1:01:09
  Which is just a Ranger.
• 1:01:11
  I mean, who wants a four-cylinder turbo pickup truck?
• 1:01:14
  Forget that noise.
• 1:01:15
  All right, we got the Genesis GV90.
• 1:01:17
  This looks like something out of Batman the Animated Series.
• 1:01:20
  Uh, we have the Magma, the GV60 Magma, which is the Veloster rebadged.
• 1:01:26
  Then we have the Genesis Magma, which is never gonna happen.
• 1:01:29
  This is that weird Lexus, the GR GT thing.
• 1:01:33
  The successor to the LFA.
• 1:01:35
  I don't like it.
• 1:01:36
  Yeah, I
• 1:01:38
  don't think it looks good.
• 1:01:38
  Infinity, who cares?
• 1:01:38
  This one looks like the same Infinity they've been making for 20 years.
• 1:01:41
  This Jaguar is horrendous.
• 1:01:45
  Jeep Wrangler Scrambler, like yeah, okay, they had those
• 1:01:48
  in the '70s, the Scramblers.
• 1:01:50
  It's okay.
• 1:01:50
  I mean, I'm not gonna salivate over it.
• 1:01:52
  Then they're gonna do an LFA again?
• 1:01:54
  That looks better than this other GT thing up here.
• 1:01:57
  This thing looks terrible.
• 1:01:58
  Let's see.
• 1:01:59
  What else is on this list?
• 1:02:00
  CX 5, they ruined that.
• 1:02:02
  Mitsubishi doesn't make cars.
• 1:02:04
  Nissan- Ugh … this is the Ultima.
• 1:02:06
  Boxster, that's a lie 'cause they said they're not gonna make those.
• 1:02:09
  Nobody salivates a Ram.
• 1:02:10
  Dakota's com- ah, look at this thing.
• 1:02:13
  Ah.
• 1:02:13
  I wanna talk about the Scout 'cause that's, I, I, I would love one of those,
• 1:02:17
  but I don't wanna gloss over the Rivian.
• 1:02:19
  I think the Rivian, I'm gonna call it the Rex, the R3X.
• 1:02:22
  The Rivian Rex is definitely a car I'm looking forward to seeing, and
• 1:02:28
  would totally consider owning one.
• 1:02:29
  Never gonna hap- we talked about this car, like, a year ago, and now they're
• 1:02:32
  saying 2029 This would be the most interesting thing on the list Correct.
• 1:02:37
  Yeah.
• 1:02:37
  I agree, I agree with that 100%, yes.
• 1:02:39
  But the Scouts look cool, too.
• 1:02:40
  They a- they're like- Okay.
• 1:02:42
  All right … the Rivian- Who owns Scout?
• 1:02:44
  Volkswagen.
• 1:02:45
  These are Volkswagen?
• 1:02:46
  Oh, well then these aren't gonna get made.
• 1:02:47
  They're gonna get scrapped.
• 1:02:48
  Hold on.
• 1:02:48
  Let me do some general arithmetic for you, okay?
• 1:02:52
  They lost 100,000 people.
• 1:02:54
  They've closed factories all over the place.
• 1:02:56
  They're cutting half the cars that they make.
• 1:02:58
  Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff.
• 1:03:00
  They, basically the toilet is swirling and the turds are going down the tube, right?
• 1:03:05
  The Scout requires a special factory to be built, unique tooling.
• 1:03:10
  It doesn't share anything with anything else, and they're gonna
• 1:03:13
  move forward with this project?
• 1:03:14
  And they gotta pay for Formula 1.
• 1:03:16
  Let's not forget that.
• 1:03:17
  They have to pay for Formula 1 somehow.
• 1:03:19
  They're gonna build these, and this is not something anybody
• 1:03:23
  is jumping up and down about.
• 1:03:25
  Because look at it.
• 1:03:26
  There's nothing about it that stands out.
• 1:03:29
  I could go get a Rivian that looks like this.
• 1:03:31
  No, the Traveler, the SUV.
• 1:03:32
  It looks like an old-school Bronco.
• 1:03:34
  Yeah, but that's my point.
• 1:03:35
  You substitute this for any other SUV that's currently available,
• 1:03:38
  nobody's gonna wait till 2030.
• 1:03:41
  It's gonna be like the Cybertruck.
• 1:03:43
  We're gonna be waiting for 10 years for these things.
• 1:03:44
  Nobody's gonna wait that long for one of these.
• 1:03:46
  And then when they get them, they're gonna be disappointed because
• 1:03:48
  they're gonna be based on technology from five years ago because it
• 1:03:51
  took them 20 years to make them.
• 1:03:53
  I'm gonna double down on what I was saying about Maserati.
• 1:03:56
  So- … I think Maserati, Maserati's a company that doesn't really
• 1:04:01
  need to exist anymore, and I'm surprised that it still does.
• 1:04:04
  I would say Mitsubishi is in that list as well.
• 1:04:06
  Right.
• 1:04:06
  There are also a slew of car manufacturers that have already died
• 1:04:11
  out that don't need to come back.
• 1:04:13
  Yeah.
• 1:04:13
  And personally, I think Scout is- Yes … one of them.
• 1:04:16
  International, I guess, when they were, they were owned by
• 1:04:18
  International, the International Scout.
• 1:04:20
  I also think, uh, I'm gonna get a lot of hate mail from our three
• 1:04:23
  listeners for this, the, uh, DeLorean does not need to come back.
• 1:04:27
  I think that is a pipe dream.
• 1:04:29
  I don't think that's happening anymore.
• 1:04:30
  That was already three, four years ago, so.
• 1:04:32
  No, but I think you get my point.
• 1:04:34
  Like, there are thing- Yeah … there are things that die, and they die for
• 1:04:36
  a reason, and they need to stay dead.
• 1:04:38
  Yeah, it's like saying we're gonna bring back the Bricklin.
• 1:04:40
  It's like no, we don't need to do that.
• 1:04:42
  There's no point.
• 1:04:43
  No.
• 1:04:43
  Talking about things that need to die and stay dead, as we switch into lost
• 1:04:48
  and found, Brad, your favorite section.
• 1:04:49
  I got some good lost and found for you guys this time.
• 1:04:52
  We sent one to the lost.
• 1:04:54
  Yet again, it has returned to the deep.
• 1:04:57
  I just wanted to share with our audience, share with you, I don't know if you saw
• 1:05:01
  the pictures or not, but pumpkin spice latte, may it rest in peace, is gone.
• 1:05:06
  Bye-bye, Norma Jean.
• 1:05:08
  Do you wanna sing Candle in the Wind?
• 1:05:09
  How good's your Elton John?
• 1:05:11
  Bye-bye, Norma Jean.
• 1:05:12
  Da, da, da, da.
• 1:05:14
  We'll have to talk
• 1:05:18
  offline, 'cause I, I'm wondering where my exhaust and my turbo and,
• 1:05:22
  like, w- where's all my stuff?
• 1:05:23
  In my shed.
• 1:05:25
  It's OEM minus.
• 1:05:27
  This is the definition of OEM minus right here.
• 1:05:30
  OEM negative Ghost Rider.
• 1:05:32
  Yeah, we have all that stuff, Brad.
• 1:05:33
  Don't worry.
• 1:05:34
  We didn't leave you hanging.
• 1:05:35
  Yeah, okay.
• 1:05:35
  I, yeah, it's, wow.
• 1:05:37
  Anything that didn't have mold on it got kept.
• 1:05:40
  Okay, okay.
• 1:05:41
  That's that.
• 1:05:41
  Goodbye.
• 1:05:42
  Ciao, ciao.
• 1:05:43
  What was the other picture?
• 1:05:44
  The gas tank?
• 1:05:44
  Was that- We're gonna get, we're gonna get to that … the piece?
• 1:05:46
  We're gonna get to that.
• 1:05:47
  Okay.
• 1:05:47
  We're gonna get… All right, so I got one for Tanya, lost and found.
• 1:05:51
  I don't know if she looked at this yet.
• 1:05:52
  Find of the day, one-of-a-kind Audi A4 Ute.
• 1:05:58
  Sells at no reserve.
• 1:05:59
  Look at this thing.
• 1:06:00
  Look at this.
• 1:06:01
  Yeah.
• 1:06:02
  The Audi Ranchero.
• 1:06:04
  Look at it.
• 1:06:04
  Yeah, look at that.
• 1:06:05
  Look at that.
• 1:06:07
  Look at that.
• 1:06:08
  Look how much mulch you could put in this thing.
• 1:06:11
  I do need a mulch hauler.
• 1:06:12
  I thought you were gonna buy the Amazon truck.
• 1:06:15
  It's a two-liter turbo though, so you gotta deal with that.
• 1:06:17
  So you might not be able to haul that much mulch.
• 1:06:19
  But it is a manual though.
• 1:06:21
  It is a manual.
• 1:06:21
  Look at that.
• 1:06:22
  How much did this sell for?
• 1:06:23
  Bidding ended July 29th.
• 1:06:25
  Sold for $7,300.
• 1:06:28
  What?
• 1:06:29
  That's it?
• 1:06:29
  That is more than I thought it would.
• 1:06:31
  Six-speed manual, all-wheel drive, Sonoma Green.
• 1:06:34
  Mm, yummy.
• 1:06:35
  This angle is the best though.
• 1:06:36
  Look at this butt on this thing.
• 1:06:38
  It is.
• 1:06:41
  Yeah.
• 1:06:42
  No.
• 1:06:42
  Had this been in Australia, it would've sold for 7,300 Australian dollars.
• 1:06:46
  Well, the problem is this wasn't made by Audi.
• 1:06:48
  This is somebody who took an A4 and then- It's a myth conversion, like all
• 1:06:53
  the other ones are The back is terrible.
• 1:06:55
  It has no shape that goes with the rest of it.
• 1:06:58
  Well, what shape is a pickup truck supposed to have?
• 1:07:01
  I don't know.
• 1:07:01
  More than that.
• 1:07:02
  Look, it's even got a slidey-out back window so you can get
• 1:07:04
  air, just like a Chevy S-10.
• 1:07:06
  Look at that.
• 1:07:06
  I mean, that's great.
• 1:07:08
  It's, unfortunately, there's a reason why Audi never made a pickup truck.
• 1:07:12
  Well, they claimed they were going to, remember.
• 1:07:14
  Let's not forget, it couldn't even fit a pair of golf clubs.
• 1:07:17
  You get all the best things here, except for the two-liter turbo.
• 1:07:20
  You get all-wheel drive, you get a manual, and you get a pickup truck.
• 1:07:24
  And it's an Audi.
• 1:07:25
  It's got the German engineering with American refinement.
• 1:07:27
  That was completely ruined when they removed the back half of the car.
• 1:07:30
  Is this OEM plus or minus?
• 1:07:32
  Like- Mm. This is OEM's special school bus.
• 1:07:45
  All right, Brad, I found one for you.
• 1:07:47
  I'm j- gonna try to convince you.
• 1:07:49
  I don't think you're gonna take the bait.
• 1:07:51
  Look at that.
• 1:07:53
  Probably not for sale anymore.
• 1:07:54
  2003 GTI VR6 in reflex silver with a six speed, 4,500 bucks, with a
• 1:08:01
  n- fresher engine, 120,000 miles on the engine and drivetrain.
• 1:08:05
  I'm sure this car is gonna make somebody very mildly happy for a time.
• 1:08:11
  You wouldn't go back?
• 1:08:12
  It's not for me.
• 1:08:13
  GTI, especially with a VR6 in silver like Eddie, you'd stick with the Beetle?
• 1:08:19
  I 100% would if I didn't already have the Beetle, but as I told
• 1:08:22
  you before, I actually have grown very fond of the Beetle.
• 1:08:26
  I actually really enjoy driving it.
• 1:08:28
  I like the way it makes me feel, you know, and people can come at me in
• 1:08:32
  the comments, I don't give a shit.
• 1:08:33
  I really like the Beetle.
• 1:08:34
  I think GTIs for me, they have a special place in my heart, but
• 1:08:38
  I'm onto something different.
• 1:08:40
  Would you put a VR6 in the Beetle?
• 1:08:41
  I would not put a VR6 in my current Beetle unless the motor blew up,
• 1:08:46
  because that's what I would… I could potentially buy a, a junked two
• 1:08:50
  liter Beetle and put a VR6 in that.
• 1:08:53
  Nice.
• 1:08:53
  I mean, I love me some VR6, don't get me wrong.
• 1:08:56
  I know.
• 1:08:56
  That was, that is a super clean car.
• 1:08:58
  With fat fives and e- I mean, that's a nice ride right there.
• 1:09:01
  I, I'm sure it made somebody very happy.
• 1:09:03
  Nice ride.
• 1:09:04
  And speaking of good deals, we missed out.
• 1:09:07
  We could've gone to Mecum Harrisburg this month and picked up this
• 1:09:10
  beauty, a 1964 Studebaker Hawk GT for the low, low price of $2,200.
• 1:09:18
  And I got a quote from Andy Beckmann from the Studebaker National Museum,
• 1:09:21
  'cause I sent him this post, and he said, "That's a hellacious bargain.
• 1:09:25
  I knew the guy whose estate that was from." I mean, $2,200 is, like, nothing.
• 1:09:30
  I don't know anything about those.
• 1:09:32
  Is that a convertible?
• 1:09:33
  What is that top?
• 1:09:34
  W- what is going on there?
• 1:09:35
  Is that, like, a skullet?
• 1:09:36
  Shaved in the front and party in the back?
• 1:09:39
  Like, what is going on with this roof?
• 1:09:41
  Yeah, that two-tone effect.
• 1:09:43
  It's wild.
• 1:09:44
  Like, the door doesn't align properly with… That roof has to come off.
• 1:09:48
  Nope.
• 1:09:48
  I don't think so.
• 1:09:49
  I like the reverse rake, too.
• 1:09:51
  It sits down, like the back shocks are totally busted on it.
• 1:09:54
  It's squatting.
• 1:09:55
  Got the same nose as that Bugatti we talked about earlier.
• 1:09:58
  I mean, look at that thing.
• 1:09:59
  Studebaker.
• 1:10:00
  '64 Studebaker.
• 1:10:01
  Mm. Whopping 170 horsepower on a good day.
• 1:10:05
  Well, let's talk about seriously what could go wrong, formerly known as Lowered
• 1:10:10
  Expectations Lowered Expectations.
• 1:10:13
  Ah I'm
• 1:10:18
  gonna read the headline here.
• 1:10:19
  I can't believe this is actually a thing, but then again, I'm always
• 1:10:23
  suspicious of the dealerships.
• 1:10:24
  Dealer allegedly cannibalized customer's Kia to fix another.
• 1:10:29
  That's wild.
• 1:10:30
  Right?
• 1:10:31
  Wild.
• 1:10:31
  I wonder how many times that has actually happened at a dealership.
• 1:10:36
  Why is it taking so long for my car to get fixed?
• 1:10:38
  Did they take a bunch of sh- stuff off of it and put it on somebody else car?
• 1:10:41
  You know what I mean?
• 1:10:41
  Like, or is this just a fluke?
• 1:10:43
  That would incense me.
• 1:10:45
  To never go to the dealership?
• 1:10:46
  So I've always wondered why they couldn't do this with a car that was on their lot.
• 1:10:54
  That makes more sense.
• 1:10:56
  Doing it to somebody's, somebody else's car, that's theft.
• 1:11:00
  But is it also indicative of the fact that there's a supply chain problem?
• 1:11:04
  Like, if you have to cannibalize another car off the lot, that
• 1:11:07
  means you can't get the parts in a reasonable amount of time, right?
• 1:11:10
  But I'm sorry, is it a supply chain issue or is it a shitty
• 1:11:14
  sequencing issue of your dealership?
• 1:11:17
  This woman came in for a tire blowout, had nothing to do with her engine.
• 1:11:20
  That should've been, like, an hour fix.
• 1:11:22
  Also, why she took it to a dealer, sh- should've taken it to a tire
• 1:11:26
  shop to have a tire replaced, but we'll leave that aside.
• 1:11:29
  She should've been in and out.
• 1:11:30
  If you had some other car there that you're backed up and you have that person
• 1:11:33
  bitching at you that their car's not done, that's not this lady's problem.
• 1:11:37
  Yeah.
• 1:11:37
  This is theft.
• 1:11:38
  I think she can s- file not just a lawsuit, but she can call the
• 1:11:42
  police and file a police report for this, 'cause it's, it's theft.
• 1:11:45
  Vandalism, right?
• 1:11:46
  No, it's theft, that they took something off her car to give to somebody else.
• 1:11:50
  They took her property- But then they replaced it, didn't they, later?
• 1:11:54
  Did they?
• 1:11:54
  I don't know.
• 1:11:54
  But here's the problem.
• 1:11:54
  They're dismantling her engine.
• 1:11:54
  God knows what other
• 1:11:57
  things they took off of it, and the next thing you know, she's driving
• 1:12:00
  down the road, has some other issue.
• 1:12:02
  Who does she get to go blame?
• 1:12:03
  W- if you don't know that somebody messed- Right, and then they're like,
• 1:12:06
  "Oh, you're out of warranty-" Yeah
• 1:12:08
  "so we can't cover it," blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, even though they're the ones
• 1:12:11
  that broke the part in the first place.
• 1:12:12
  Even worse, you go in for the tire change.
• 1:12:15
  They do all this tomfoolery.
• 1:12:17
  They do fuck something up, so you have to come back for a bigger repair.
• 1:12:21
  Fraud.
• 1:12:25
  This next one.
• 1:12:29
  Do you guys watch this?
• 1:12:30
  This goes back to what we were talking about car culture, and this
• 1:12:33
  sort of just bookended it for me.
• 1:12:35
  First of all, I wanna know what the word jawn means, and I'm
• 1:12:39
  not talking J-O-H-N or J-O-N.
• 1:12:42
  What is J-A-W-N?
• 1:12:44
  And I assume it's pronounced like yawn, because Hooked on Phonics worked for me.
• 1:12:49
  So what is jawn?
• 1:12:51
  I had to l- I had to wait to see how the, what the spelling of jawn was.
• 1:12:55
  J-A-W-N.
• 1:12:56
  So according to Urban Dictionary We've had to use that a lot today … there's
• 1:13:00
  a definition that goes all the way back to 2003, "A word used by Philly cats to
• 1:13:05
  describe anything and everything." So nothing and everything at the same time.
• 1:13:10
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:13:11
  And in a, a more recent 2012 definition, also terms as a Philly
• 1:13:15
  slang for a person, place, or thing.
• 1:13:17
  "I can't find that jawn anywhere." "Do you see that movie?
• 1:13:20
  That jawn was horrible." "Yeah, I got that same jawn from Macy's." So
• 1:13:24
  it's like joint or junk and all that stuff from back in the '90s, right?
• 1:13:28
  It's like the same thing.
• 1:13:29
  Yes, because the other definition does say that the New York cats,
• 1:13:32
  ooh, we're talking cats, the New York folk interject with the word joint.
• 1:13:36
  Yeah.
• 1:13:36
  But it doesn't quite, it doesn't quite convey the same feeling as jawn.
• 1:13:39
  And I wouldn't be surprised if because it's social media, you know that there are
• 1:13:43
  words that they can't say because- Yeah
• 1:13:45
  they'll get flagged by the algorithm.
• 1:13:47
  Right.
• 1:13:47
  So they can't say suicide, you can't say killing.
• 1:13:50
  They probably can't say joint because of drug affiliation.
• 1:13:53
  Right, right, right.
• 1:13:54
  And now that I've said those words, they'll probably get us canceled, so.
• 1:13:57
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:57
  Well, that's okay.
• 1:13:58
  Doesn't matter.
• 1:13:59
  Yeah.
• 1:13:59
  Who cares?
• 1:13:59
  I saw jawn anywhere.
• 1:14:03
  I'ma go down to VIR and watch all that jawn going on.
• 1:14:07
  Did you guys see this video?
• 1:14:09
  This is OEM Plus right here, and Brad, I also found this and I put
• 1:14:12
  it in here because you were going to do a wiper delete on Pumpkin Spice.
• 1:14:18
  I did one on the Mark5.
• 1:14:20
  Yeah, but you didn't do it like these guys did it.
• 1:14:22
  Yeah, I did.
• 1:14:23
  I did it on my R32.
• 1:14:23
  I mean, I haven't watched this whole thing yet.
• 1:14:24
  Yeah, but you didn't do it like these guys did it with some Home Depot stuff
• 1:14:27
  that they had to put on a grinding wheel.
• 1:14:28
  Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I actually bought the correct part.
• 1:14:32
  So he shatters his rear glass?
• 1:14:34
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:14:34
  Nice.
• 1:14:35
  I think my favorite line, despite all the jawn, was he grinds this part to go
• 1:14:40
  put it on there to put on the delete, which probably wasn't even for this
• 1:14:43
  car, and he's like, "Flush as a toilet."
• 1:14:46
  And I'm like, "Skibidi."
• 1:14:51
  I mean, he just shatters that glass.
• 1:14:54
  But also, I'm sorry, don't they sell rear wiper delete kits?
• 1:14:58
  Yes, from ECS for, like, 20 bucks.
• 1:15:00
  Like, come on, I mean- They probably are super easy to install
• 1:15:03
  and don't have this happen?
• 1:15:05
  Designed for the car, for the glass.
• 1:15:07
  Okay.
• 1:15:07
  All right.
• 1:15:08
  I mean, this is literally the definition of square peg, round hole.
• 1:15:11
  I like the one guy comments, "I used a black smooth plastic plug from
• 1:15:14
  Lowe's. Little bit of silicone and it was flush and black like the tint."
• 1:15:18
  Yeah, and he probably spent the same amount as had he ordered the part from
• 1:15:22
  ECS, but that's neither here to there.
• 1:15:24
  Oh my God.
• 1:15:25
  It's because you used the John to tighten the John onto the John.
• 1:15:28
  Next time use a John instead of the John that you want John Johned.
• 1:15:33
  There it is.
• 1:15:34
  This is why the comments are the best.
• 1:15:36
  It's like Smurf.
• 1:15:38
  All right.
• 1:15:39
  Well, we basically covered rich people things earlier, but we do have two extra
• 1:15:43
  value meal options here, and I wanna bring up something that's definitely
• 1:15:47
  going to end up on our Christmas list because, you know, i- it kind of is rich
• 1:15:51
  people things in the sense that if you have enough of these that you need a
• 1:15:56
  special storage unit for them- Then you might be doing some rich people things.
• 1:16:00
  I stumbled across, if this isn't fake, Tex Racks, T-E-X Racks, and
• 1:16:06
  they're specifically these, like, racks designed for your 1/64 scale
• 1:16:12
  Hot Wheels, Matchbox, et cetera.
• 1:16:14
  I think these are super cool.
• 1:16:16
  They might be a little janky.
• 1:16:17
  I wanna get one, but I, I don't know if I trust the website.
• 1:16:21
  This is where I've reached in my life.
• 1:16:23
  If I can't buy it on Amazon, then it's not legitimate.
• 1:16:27
  Or if the manufacturer doesn't have a store on Amazon, they're not legit,
• 1:16:30
  'cause Amazon legitimizes all of their sellers, or at least they try to.
• 1:16:34
  Same with Walmart.
• 1:16:35
  So I'm like, "I don't know." But if somebody is willing to buy a
• 1:16:39
  Tex Rack and then let me know.
• 1:16:41
  These jaws be janky.
• 1:16:42
  That's what I'm thinking.
• 1:16:43
  But I like the idea.
• 1:16:44
  Why are they so expensive, too?
• 1:16:45
  They're cloth.
• 1:16:47
  Did you watch the video of the woman putting the stuff in place?
• 1:16:49
  I did.
• 1:16:50
  I did, and that's why I'm like, how janky are these?
• 1:16:53
  But here's the other thing.
• 1:16:54
  You look at this plastic, and you know this plastic.
• 1:16:57
  This is the plastic that is like a Oreo container.
• 1:17:00
  You know how thin the Oreo containers are?
• 1:17:02
  They almost crumple like a paper bag.
• 1:17:04
  Like, I'm feeling like this is the type of plastic that they're using here.
• 1:17:07
  I feel like you go to Target, you buy one of those fabric closet hanger wardrobes-
• 1:17:13
  Yes … and you make one yourself.
• 1:17:15
  Why pay $200 for one?
• 1:17:18
  For the plastic shelves, that's what you're paying for.
• 1:17:20
  If they don't fall out of- Just, just eat a bunch of Oreos- Yeah, yeah,
• 1:17:23
  100%, right … and then use that.
• 1:17:25
  Speaking of Subaru earlier, you know, Lego has its Icons series, and they
• 1:17:30
  have a bunch of different stuff that is actually created by people that
• 1:17:33
  are, like, over on Rebrickable, and they'll post them up on Lego's website.
• 1:17:37
  And if it gets enough interest and enough votes, then Lego will take the design,
• 1:17:41
  look it over, Lego-fy it to make it easier and all that kind of stuff, you know, less
• 1:17:45
  rare parts and less unsanctioned building techniques, those kinds of things.
• 1:17:50
  But up on the docket, along with, you know, we've seen in the past the Ayrton
• 1:17:54
  Senna, the Nigel Mansell, and the Michael Schumacher racing set, somebody put
• 1:17:59
  together a Colin McRae Subaru rally set.
• 1:18:03
  This opens a door for a lot of things, 'cause they had, did already
• 1:18:06
  have the Audi rally car a while ago, but I think this is super cool.
• 1:18:09
  Like, I'd like to see this get made.
• 1:18:11
  So go out to lego.com and go vote for it.
• 1:18:13
  Right, Tanya?
• 1:18:14
  Yeah.
• 1:18:15
  I love the rally stage pit stop thing where you can take the car
• 1:18:18
  apart and set it up that way.
• 1:18:19
  I think that's really slick.
• 1:18:20
  It's got a couple different ways you can position the car.
• 1:18:23
  Well, we have reached that part of the episode where we're
• 1:18:27
  gonna go down south Florida.
• 1:18:44
  We're really gonna go north to New Jersey.
• 1:18:46
  So I found this first one.
• 1:18:48
  It's brilliant.
• 1:18:49
  Dad used to always say, "You gotta watch out for Roscoe and Buford
• 1:18:52
  hanging out in the bushes." I mean, this takes it to a whole new level.
• 1:18:55
  Cop dressed as a shrub.
• 1:19:00
  Just looking at him, I mean, he looks like something out of Sesame Street.
• 1:19:03
  He looks like Swamp Thing.
• 1:19:04
  Yeah, but it's the binoculars.
• 1:19:06
  It makes him… But he's scruffy like Snuffleupagus.
• 1:19:08
  Maybe it's George Russell in that suit.
• 1:19:10
  But anyway, cop dressed as a shrub wrote 74 tickets in six hours.
• 1:19:16
  And this wasn't for speeding people, this was to catch people distracted
• 1:19:19
  driving on their cell phone.
• 1:19:21
  Oh.
• 1:19:21
  Doom scrolling while they're driving.
• 1:19:23
  So I do not feel sorry for any of these 74 people.
• 1:19:26
  But in order to catch these folks, you're dressed as a bush.
• 1:19:30
  Do you walk out into the middle of the road?
• 1:19:32
  No.
• 1:19:32
  So, so this was a coordinated effort amongst many officers.
• 1:19:36
  Oh.
• 1:19:36
  So he would radio down to somebody else, and then further down the road
• 1:19:41
  there was a group of officers that then were pulling the cars over.
• 1:19:44
  'Cause I was gonna say, if you're trying to catch distracted drivers and
• 1:19:47
  you're dressed as a bush, there's a high probability you're gonna get hit.
• 1:19:52
  But that is clever.
• 1:19:53
  He blends in.
• 1:19:54
  I mean, if you are not paying attention, you will not see him, despite the fact
• 1:19:58
  that that is not a color found in nature.
• 1:20:00
  Well, some places in nature, but not in New Jersey.
• 1:20:04
  All right.
• 1:20:04
  What's this one about, Tanya?
• 1:20:06
  I mean, this is pretty bad.
• 1:20:08
  You just gotta take the, the time to watch the video.
• 1:20:11
  It's only a minute.
• 1:20:11
  But observe what's happened.
• 1:20:13
  Did he just stop in the middle of the road?
• 1:20:15
  This person just stopped- Why?
• 1:20:17
  … on a highway.
• 1:20:17
  Oh, oh, oh- On an interstate … oh, oh, oh.
• 1:20:21
  That semi-truck almost took the three of them out.
• 1:20:24
  Geez Louise, nobody's paying attention.
• 1:20:27
  There it is.
• 1:20:27
  Boom.
• 1:20:27
  There it is.
• 1:20:28
  And then watch, just leaves.
• 1:20:30
  Wow.
• 1:20:31
  That was a close call, too.
• 1:20:33
  And now they've got a car legitimately in the middle of the road, 'cause
• 1:20:36
  he got clobbered by the van.
• 1:20:37
  Dead in the water.
• 1:20:39
  Oh, the tow truck's right there, but he's like, "Nah, dog." He's like, "Nah, John.
• 1:20:42
  I ain't picking you up." I ain't got time for that, John.
• 1:20:49
  That's terrible.
• 1:20:50
  This happened in Ohio, Columbus, Ohio, and apparently they're
• 1:20:54
  asking people to stop doing this.
• 1:20:58
  So this is not the first time apparently.
• 1:21:01
  Kind of- What?
• 1:21:01
  It's in the Ohio area.
• 1:21:03
  There were two other incidents on a different interstate where people
• 1:21:07
  apparently were just stopping.
• 1:21:08
  Begs the question, are you trying to cause an accident?
• 1:21:11
  I think they are.
• 1:21:13
  Uh, they have to be.
• 1:21:14
  Like, is this the new TikTok game, that I'm just gonna stop on a highway
• 1:21:18
  and see what carnage can happen?
• 1:21:20
  I mean, if Tide PODs won't kill you, this definitely will.
• 1:21:23
  Like, what excuse do you have if you're lost?
• 1:21:26
  You pull over.
• 1:21:26
  You don't stop on a highway where presumably the speed
• 1:21:30
  limit, at a minimum, was 55.
• 1:21:32
  So you know people are going more than that.
• 1:21:34
  Somebody did this to me earlier today on my way home from the grocery store.
• 1:21:38
  Speed limit's 45, and they came to a complete stop at a green light.
• 1:21:42
  What?
• 1:21:43
  It d- it wasn't like the light had just turned green.
• 1:21:45
  The light was literally green the whole time I could see it from,
• 1:21:48
  like, way back, and the car literally was just driving up and came to a
• 1:21:52
  complete stop in the lane I was in.
• 1:21:54
  Are you sure it was green?
• 1:21:56
  Because, you know, green and red, colorblind, it might've been red.
• 1:21:59
  You know, it was green to me, and I'm not colorblind.
• 1:22:03
  It wasn't like the gold and white or the blue and black dress.
• 1:22:06
  It was green.
• 1:22:07
  The fricking light was green.
• 1:22:08
  So you say, allegedly.
• 1:22:11
  You could- What color is the stop sign again?
• 1:22:12
  The stop sign is purple.
• 1:22:14
  Oh, okay.
• 1:22:14
  That makes a lot of sense.
• 1:22:16
  Like your face after I hit you with one.
• 1:22:19
  All right.
• 1:22:20
  Well, we are going to Florida now, aren't we, Tanya?
• 1:22:23
  We do have a Florida one, and this one's, not that you should be doing
• 1:22:27
  illegal street racing, but check your mirrors before you do so, so that the
• 1:22:31
  cop isn't filming you from behind.
• 1:22:34
  No.
• 1:22:34
  Oh my God.
• 1:22:37
  So that when you go buck 20, he's not already right there ready to pull
• 1:22:41
  you over 'cause he was behind you.
• 1:22:45
  And then they all drive Ford Explorers now too, so it's not like
• 1:22:48
  they're super obvious or whatever.
• 1:22:50
  The drivers didn't recognize the SUV as a police vehicle.
• 1:22:54
  Was he dressed as a bush or a shrub?
• 1:22:56
  I mean, maybe.
• 1:22:58
  How about you just don't do this, like, street race?
• 1:23:00
  Also- Or don't do it when there's cars around at least … because it's
• 1:23:05
  the excitement of the street racing glorified by Fast and the Furious.
• 1:23:08
  If you, see if you have to make the time to go to the drag
• 1:23:10
  strip, it's not as exciting.
• 1:23:12
  It's not as, as impulsive as it is when you do it on the road and basically
• 1:23:16
  endanger all the civilians around you.
• 1:23:18
  Because it's not like when we were growing up and there was
• 1:23:21
  a lot less traffic on the road.
• 1:23:23
  But still, go to the track, then you can really show off how OEM negative you are.
• 1:23:28
  No video, though.
• 1:23:29
  That sucks.
• 1:23:30
  No.
• 1:23:30
  Also, I'm just gonna say #roofrails.
• 1:23:31
  You
• 1:23:33
  want to spot a police interceptor Explorer?
• 1:23:37
  They don't have roof rails.
• 1:23:39
  Dun, dun, dun.
• 1:23:42
  Let's go behind the pig ball to talk about America's News I have
• 1:23:47
  an update, NASCAR Jason next time.
• 1:23:50
  Ready for this?
• 1:23:51
  Oh my God, you're following this more than I am.
• 1:23:53
  It's like Formula 1.
• 1:23:54
  If I don't stay in lockstep with this, then you're just gonna give
• 1:23:58
  me a bunch of flack that, you know, I didn't know because I wasn't
• 1:24:01
  paying attention or whatever.
• 1:24:02
  So I'm paying attention.
• 1:24:03
  Days of Thunder 2, I'm gonna put alleged, in air quotes, alleged plot
• 1:24:08
  points according to the Instagrams.
• 1:24:11
  I read that Cole Trickle is now a team owner, and he is facing the most
• 1:24:15
  challenging season yet for his team because his rival team is using AI
• 1:24:20
  and analytics to win with perfect race, and he doesn't believe in
• 1:24:24
  that, and he's gotta drive by feel.
• 1:24:26
  So rather than supporting his younger drivers that drive for him on his NASCAR
• 1:24:31
  team, oh no, Tom Cruise, Mr. Mission Impossible, Cole Trickle, gonna jump
• 1:24:37
  back in to a NASCAR and show all these young whippersnappers how it's done
• 1:24:43
  old school and win a championship.
• 1:24:46
  That is allegedly the plot of Days of Thunder 2.
• 1:24:49
  Are you still gonna watch it?
• 1:24:51
  Yes.
• 1:24:51
  Can I just say?
• 1:24:52
  Go for it.
• 1:24:53
  I've seen this movie before.
• 1:24:54
  Oh, really?
• 1:24:55
  With this exact plot.
• 1:24:57
  It's called- F1?
• 1:24:59
  It's called Cars 3.
• 1:25:01
  I was gonna… That was the first thing I thought of actually.
• 1:25:06
  Where Lightning McQueen is out there having a good old time with his
• 1:25:09
  buddies, and then the new Jackson Storm comes up with all the analytics and
• 1:25:14
  checking his tire pressures and, and everything, and he's so much faster.
• 1:25:18
  He's going 201, 202, 203 miles an hour, and Lightning McQueen
• 1:25:23
  doubles down on the boomerness.
• 1:25:25
  He goes back to Doc's Roots and starts trying to race on the street, on, uh,
• 1:25:30
  on the sand, on the dirt, and he goes to the beach, and he go- goes to the hollow
• 1:25:34
  and w- and loses a destruction derby, and he finds Smokey, Doc's old coach.
• 1:25:40
  Got it.
• 1:25:41
  So if it's going to follow the plot of Cars 3, then Cole Trickle
• 1:25:46
  is not gonna be successful in his endeavors, and he is gonna have
• 1:25:49
  to mentor a junior driver to win.
• 1:25:53
  This is Tom Cruise.
• 1:25:54
  He doesn't lose at anything.
• 1:25:56
  Tom Cruise doesn't lose anything.
• 1:25:59
  Tanya brings up a great point.
• 1:26:00
  So yes, if they follow the Cars 3 formula, then she's right.
• 1:26:06
  Tom Cruise/Lightning McQueen finds out that he's not fast enough even with
• 1:26:11
  the old tricks, so he tags in his new female driver, 'cause Cruise was played
• 1:26:17
  by a female character, a, a female voiceover, so I'm ass- I'm, I'm making
• 1:26:22
  the assumption that she's female.
• 1:26:23
  She's non-binary 'cause she's a car, but I'm making the
• 1:26:26
  assumption that she's female.
• 1:26:28
  Have to tag in a female driver to, to win it all, and they're
• 1:26:32
  gonna beat Jackson Storm.
• 1:26:33
  There you go.
• 1:26:34
  Boom.
• 1:26:34
  Days of Thunder 2.
• 1:26:35
  But this is also the plot of the F1 movie where- Yes … ancient
• 1:26:40
  100-year-old Brad Pitt comes to show the young ones how it's really done.
• 1:26:46
  And drive it old school.
• 1:26:47
  Yes.
• 1:26:48
  It's Formula 1 with NASCARs.
• 1:26:50
  It's gonna be terrible, and you're still gonna watch it.
• 1:26:53
  Because old culture is always better than new culture.
• 1:26:56
  Right, Eric?
• 1:26:57
  Is that like the previous Subaru is less ugly than the current
• 1:27:01
  Subaru when you compare them?
• 1:27:02
  Is that, is it, we're going back to that?
• 1:27:04
  This is old car culture is better than new car culture.
• 1:27:07
  I guess so.
• 1:27:07
  Yeah, I mean, that's was the theme of the episode, right?
• 1:27:10
  Is- Exactly … that's exactly where we were.
• 1:27:12
  And it all comes together.
• 1:27:14
  Way to pull that thread.
• 1:27:15
  Well done, sir. Well done.
• 1:27:17
  In other news, there is allegedly a America250 race.
• 1:27:21
  It's this weekend.
• 1:27:23
  Ah.
• 1:27:23
  You have not missed it yet.
• 1:27:24
  It's on Sunday.
• 1:27:25
  I think practice, qualifying, whatever is probably Saturday.
• 1:27:28
  But please do watch this video with the sound so you can hear Alex
• 1:27:31
  Palou taking a virtual ride around, or at least read what he's saying.
• 1:27:35
  This is going to be the lamest-
• 1:27:38
  race where every corner is second gear, which we already know from the track
• 1:27:42
  map, because it's straight, 90-degree turn, straight, 90-degree turn,
• 1:27:45
  straight, 90-degree turn, we're done.
• 1:27:46
  But wait till the end, because if this is truly what that looks like,
• 1:27:51
  there's gonna be a massive wreck.
• 1:27:53
  Yeah.
• 1:27:53
  At pit lane.
• 1:27:54
  Terrible.
• 1:27:55
  You come into a 90-degree turn, and then, boom, there's
• 1:27:58
  a wall that you have to split.
• 1:28:00
  Immediately go into pit or don't go into pit.
• 1:28:03
  I'm like, "That's wild." Aside from the fact that this is obviously on iRacing
• 1:28:06
  and it's, you know, a simulation, see, this is what iRacing gets wrong.
• 1:28:11
  You know what's missing here?
• 1:28:12
  Pedestrians.
• 1:28:13
  Well, all the blown water mains, the potholes, the metro buses
• 1:28:17
  abandoned on the side of the road.
• 1:28:19
  Like, this doesn't look like DC.
• 1:28:20
  This could be anywhere.
• 1:28:21
  This road is too smooth.
• 1:28:23
  This is not what they're gonna actually be racing on, 'cause
• 1:28:25
  they're not gonna pave anything.
• 1:28:26
  They haven't spent any time doing… This looks like garbage.
• 1:28:29
  This is worse than Long Beach.
• 1:28:31
  This is worse than St. Pete.
• 1:28:32
  This is worse than any… Look at that thing at the end.
• 1:28:34
  That turn is so dangerous to me.
• 1:28:36
  I'll be interested to see how that actually looks- That's
• 1:28:39
  awful … in real life.
• 1:28:40
  I'm glad I'm going in the opposite direction that weekend.
• 1:28:43
  Me too.
• 1:28:43
  That's all I gotta say.
• 1:28:45
  All right.
• 1:28:45
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• 1:29:05
  Well, let's wrap up this episode with a quick trackside report.
• 1:29:09
  You asked Brad about that gas tank earlier.
• 1:29:12
  We found the problem.
• 1:29:13
  It's a Ford.
• 1:29:14
  Well, yeah, that, yes, is part number one.
• 1:29:16
  But we might actually have a running car now.
• 1:29:19
  Long story short, after diagnosing all this stuff, replace this, change the
• 1:29:23
  sensor, do the thing, all the things we talked about the last time, we got
• 1:29:26
  down to the point where we traced it to two remaining sensors that were
• 1:29:31
  tied to the ECU that were giving this electrical fault that we had.
• 1:29:35
  But where, oh where, would Ford put the sensors?
• 1:29:40
  Above the gas tank, up against the bulkhead, which requires you to drop
• 1:29:45
  the gas tank to replace said sensors.
• 1:29:48
  Took us a little bit to get the sensors, 'cause they had to be ordered and
• 1:29:51
  shipped and came from Lord knows where, because nobody has anything anymore.
• 1:29:55
  It's all just-in-time inventory.
• 1:29:57
  So put the sensors in, put it all back together, put the gas
• 1:30:00
  tank back up, make sure it didn't leak, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:30:02
  And then what happened, Tanya?
• 1:30:04
  But it ran And how did it run?
• 1:30:07
  As it should.
• 1:30:08
  Oh, amazing.
• 1:30:10
  Amazing, after all that time and all that.
• 1:30:11
  Yay.
• 1:30:12
  And that was the first time Tanya drove it more than, I don't know, like, 10 feet.
• 1:30:15
  So what do we think?
• 1:30:16
  I mean, it's not gonna win any land speed records, but it'll be
• 1:30:22
  a perfectly good momentum car.
• 1:30:24
  She did a one wheel peel.
• 1:30:25
  Compare it to a Mark 4 Volkswagen, the driving experience.
• 1:30:29
  I don't know, 'cause- 'Cause you've driven a f- almost fully
• 1:30:32
  track prepared Mark 4, and you've driven, now, a track prepared Focus.
• 1:30:38
  Arguably, this isn't a track prepared- No … car, right?
• 1:30:41
  This is like a stage one car.
• 1:30:42
  Suspension-wise, like, they're gonna be night and day.
• 1:30:45
  Well, true.
• 1:30:45
  And, I mean, just driving it up the street, accelerating it, I don't know.
• 1:30:51
  It makes a whole bunch of noise.
• 1:30:54
  Especially from the air box.
• 1:30:55
  I like noise.
• 1:30:56
  Yeah, I'm excited.
• 1:30:57
  So that means we just gotta hurry up and wait now.
• 1:31:00
  There's really nothing left to do other than just get our registration
• 1:31:04
  intact, get our tech forms.
• 1:31:06
  We were at the starting line the last time we tried to do this,
• 1:31:09
  so what's next for the car?
• 1:31:11
  It's sitting, it's waiting, it's, you know, we go out and start it and move it
• 1:31:14
  a little bit just to make sure it's okay.
• 1:31:15
  And Summit Point October, and then if we can survive Summit Point, I'm gonna s-
• 1:31:20
  try to stretch my wings a little bit and I wanna go to Road Atlanta in December.
• 1:31:24
  So hopefully we'll get two races out of it this year.
• 1:31:26
  If not, we'll get one race out of it next year, and we plan for starting next season
• 1:31:29
  in Mid-Ohio and then trying to do some of the races we didn't get to do this year.
• 1:31:33
  But we're back on target, and unfortunately, after all these false
• 1:31:37
  starts, we'll be celebrating a year of this project from when we said we were
• 1:31:41
  gonna do it by starting at Summit Point, because that's when we went last year to
• 1:31:45
  kind of scope things out and do recon.
• 1:31:47
  Sucks that we didn't get a little bit more experience, and then I am on the
• 1:31:50
  reserve list with the Studebaker team for the Gingerman race, but all of their
• 1:31:54
  drivers are committed, so they said unless somebody bows out, they don't
• 1:31:57
  wanna do the penalty thing where you take an extra driver and then, like, the max
• 1:32:02
  is four or something they were saying.
• 1:32:03
  So I was like, "That's fine." So they got me on standby, and then they were
• 1:32:06
  talking about potentially doing Road America, which not everybody wants to do.
• 1:32:10
  And even in a slow car, I think Road America would be a blast.
• 1:32:13
  I'd be able to check that off my list.
• 1:32:14
  So hopefully some more endurance racing action.
• 1:32:17
  This year's sort of a meh, but maybe next year we can really get into it.
• 1:32:21
  Looking forward to it.
• 1:32:22
  And then you're out of commission too, right, Brad?
• 1:32:24
  Uh, yep.
• 1:32:25
  September 9th I'll have my surgery, and then I will come out to support
• 1:32:29
  the team on, in October at Summit Point, but I won't, I will be virtually
• 1:32:33
  useless, uh, with the broken wing, so.
• 1:32:36
  What's the heal time on that?
• 1:32:38
  I'll be in a, a sling for six weeks- Oh, wow
• 1:32:41
  and then I can resume somewhat normal activity without any
• 1:32:45
  lifting or anything like that.
• 1:32:47
  And then four months- Oh … and then four months to kind of start doing
• 1:32:51
  light lifting, and then six months I should be kind of almost back to normal.
• 1:32:55
  Wow.
• 1:32:55
  So New Jersey next year, right?
• 1:32:57
  I, I'm definitely planning on racing next year.
• 1:33:00
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• 1:33:00
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• 1:33:01
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• 1:33:04
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• 1:34:03
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• 1:34:06
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• 1:34:13
  Outro.
• 1:34:14
  'Cause we're old now.
• 1:34:18
  Sorry Sorry.
• 1:34:20
  So wha- what is this sorry stuff?
• 1:34:22
  I didn't realize you guys were on time waiting for me.
• 1:34:26
  Tanya's usually got technical issues.
• 1:34:27
  You don't have a life, so you're just sitting there
• 1:34:29
  doing a whole bunch of nothing.
• 1:34:30
  Hey now.
• 1:34:31
  Hey now.
• 1:34:32
  Hey now.
• 1:34:32
  Yeah, remember, we don't do the intro anymore.
• 1:34:34
  We don't, we don't do the welcome to the drive-through, this is number blah,
• 1:34:38
  blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:34:39
  Where we talk about all car adjacent automotive news.
• 1:34:43
  Drive-through window number one, number 71.
• 1:34:47
  Anyway.
• 1:34:47
  I do things for the betterment of the automotive enthusiast community.
• 1:34:51
  That's what I do.
• 1:34:52
  Yep, yep, yep.
• 1:34:54
  AKA nothing.
• 1:34:55
  You know, we could only all be so fortunate.
• 1:34:59
  I gotta look at it again.
• 1:35:01
  I don't think I have access to it anymore, actually.
• 1:35:03
  Yeah, I gotta subscribe, which I'm not gonna do.
• 1:35:05
  Yeah, can't get to the rest of the article either, so you're gonna
• 1:35:07
  have to jog it from memory here.
• 1:35:09
  You just got, you got bamboozled by the Mazdas on the screen.
• 1:35:12
  That's what it was.
• 1:35:13
  Um- I swear I thought she had a sound machine, and she pushed
• 1:35:17
  a button and it was like-
• 1:35:18
  like, um, apartment or something.
• 1:35:21
  I was like, what the… Everybody say hi to Catherine.
• 1:35:24
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:35:24
  Brad has a, has a guest.
• 1:35:25
  Can't really see you.
• 1:35:27
  Hi.
• 1:35:29
  Hello.
• 1:35:29
  Sorry about that.
• 1:35:30
  No worries.
• 1:35:30
  That's Louie too.
• 1:35:32
  Nice.
• 1:35:32
  Whoops.
• 1:35:34
  Go for it.
• 1:35:34
  I have other stuff in there that's really good.
• 1:35:37
  What, what, what you got?
• 1:35:38
  Uh- What you got?
• 1:35:38
  No, no, not, not for, not for this podcast.
• 1:35:41
  Not safe for podcast.
• 1:35:43
  NSFP.
• 1:35:48
  That's our next segment, the more politically, you know, focused segment.
• 1:35:51
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:35:53
  Where I put my tinfoil hat on and talk about the governments trying to control
• 1:35:56
  us all, and Tanya makes fun of Trump.
• 1:35:57
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