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- [00:01:45] Melissa: Every August, downtown Cary transforms into a vibrant celebration of creativity, community, and culture with Lazy Days Arts and Crafts Festival. For nearly five decades, Lazy Days has brought together nationally recognized artists, local makers, live music, incredible food, and thousands of visitors from across North Carolina and beyond. From colorful paintings and handcrafted jewelry to street performances and family activities, Lazy Days captures the heart of Cary: welcoming, artistic, and full of energy. Some people spend the weekend catching up on house chores and binging Netflix. Others spend it wandering Cary with a lemonade in one hand and kettle corn in the other. Today, we're talking about the 50th annual Lazy Days Arts and Crafts Festival, proof that the best kind of lazy still involves a lot of walking. Joining me is Jenna Kostka, the festival and events supervisor with the Town of Cary to talk art, community, and what it takes to pull off one of the Triangle's favorite festivals. Hi, Jenna. [00:02:51] Jenna: Hi. Thank you for having me. [00:02:52] Melissa: Thank you for coming. Tell us a little bit about yourself to start, and how long you've been the planner of fun for the Town of Cary. [00:03:00] Jenna: Yeah, absolutely. I have been with the Town of Cary for three years now. Um, I am the festival and events supervisor, like you mentioned, so I get to plan the Lazy Days Festival, the Spring Days Festival, and I get to help with so many more other things that are happening in the town. Yeah, ' [00:03:13] Melissa: cause C- Cary has a lot of fun stuff. [00:03:15] Jenna: Absolutely. Yeah. So much fun. I mean, we have a festival dedicated just to pimento cheese. [00:03:19] Melissa: Exactly. Yes, which I was telling you as you came in, that's one of my favorites. But Lazy Days is really hard to beat because it's so many things in one festival, and it's two days, right? It's Saturday and Sunday. [00:03:33] Jenna: That's right, yep. Two days. [00:03:34] Melissa: And I think that's helpful, too, because I know, like, a full day of a festival is a little bit much for me. I can do, like, a half a day and then come back the next day and, like, retrace my steps or go to the places that I didn't make it to the day before. So- Or- ... I like a two-day festival [00:03:50] Jenna: you get back home and you realize that you for... really, really wanted that piece of art. [00:03:55] Melissa: Exactly. [00:03:55] Jenna: And you get back there, and it's still there. [00:03:56] Melissa: Yes, yes. You regret not making that purchase. That's right. Okay, so it's called Lazy Days. [00:04:03] Jenna: It is. [00:04:04] Melissa: But it's packed full of fun. It's... And it's actually a really big deal as far as festivals go because you guys... How, how many people do you normally expect on a weekend? [00:04:14] Jenna: About 50,000. Wow. [00:04:16] Melissa: Yeah. That's more than I thought you were gonna say. [00:04:18] Jenna: Yeah. [00:04:19] Melissa: And you were telling me earlier the Pimento Cheese Festival had 20,000- It did ... this year. But again, at least it's spread out with the two days, right? That's right. For the 50,000? Yeah. Okay. So it's not like it's gonna be [00:04:30] Default_2026-05-27_1: way [00:04:30] Melissa: too crowded. It's [00:04:30] Jenna: not wall-to-wall. [00:04:31] Melissa: Yes, yes. Um, how did the name Lazy Days come to be? I've always wondered that. [00:04:36] Jenna: Yeah, so the lazy days of summer. It's the last thing that happens at the end of summer, so those lazy days of summer, um, is when we hold our festival which is why it's always in the hottest part of the summer. [00:04:48] Melissa: Absolutely, yes. We are right in the thick of the heat right now. Um- But again, that's another reason why it's good to spread it out with two days. [00:04:57] Jenna: Yes. Yes. So our founder, his name is Jerry Miller. Um, he's a Cary resident for his whole life. Um, he did pass away last year sadly. Um, but he knew that Cary needed a festival, um, and an art spe- festival specifically because he is an artist himself. Um, and he, he thought of this Lazy Days of Summer, this is when we need to have it, and that's how it got named. [00:05:21] Melissa: Okay, it's elevator pitch time If someone has never been to Lazy Days, what are they missing? [00:05:27] Jenna: Yeah. They are, they are missing the most talked about end of summer event of the year. Um, we are full of art, full of incredible art from across the country, which is really cool. So we bring in... This year we're bringing in, um, artists from 22 different states. [00:05:46] Melissa: Wow. [00:05:46] Jenna: Yeah. Really cool. Um, obviously great food. Everybody loves festival food. We've got 30 food and beverage vendors. Um, they're missing an, a weekend that, um, that they're going to look forward to every year, um, a new family tradition, and just a chance to really experience Cary at its best. [00:06:06] Melissa: How do you choose the, the vendors that come? [00:06:09] Jenna: Yeah. Um, it's a lot of work and a lot of time that goes into making sure that those vendors are, um, the right fit for the festival. So we have a very, um, extensive application process for our artists. Um, it is a juried festival. Um, this year we had 500 artists apply for the just over 250 artist spots, which means you only get a 50% chance of getting in. [00:06:36] Melissa: Okay. [00:06:36] Jenna: Um, we have, um, artists and a committee that do a week-long jury process of going through every application, looking through the photos, making sure that we have a great mix of artists- Mm-hmm ... um, and then making those selections. [00:06:54] Melissa: Who is on the jury? Is it local artists? [00:06:56] Jenna: It is. It's local artists and, um, committee, or community members, um, that participate in that, and it does change every year. So that's why, you know, some artists make it one year, and they don't make it the next. Um, but that's how we make sure that we're gonna have the highest quality art. [00:07:11] Melissa: I like that. I like that idea that it, it also helps with changing the, the, the vibe and the, the vendors every year. Vibe and vendors. [00:07:20] Jenna: Vibe and vendors. [00:07:22] Melissa: Okay. For people who think it's just an arts festival, what surprises them the most when they actually come? [00:07:30] Jenna: Yeah, absolutely. It's so much more than art. I mean, ob- obviously we have the art. That is the major factor of it. Um, but we have nonprofits that are participating. They're doing activities where you can be hands-on and engaged. There's things for the kids. Every member of the family is going to enjoy the experience. Um, this year we have four stages. We have, um, performances from really cool, a really cool, um, music- experience called Squonk, which we had last year. They brought a really interactive, you get to actually make the music yourself and engage with them. They brought this experience last year, but we're bringing them back this year. They have a new experience, um, called the Joy Machine. Oh, great. That sounds amazing. Yeah. Um, and so it's just the same. You get to be really in- interactive with that- Mm-hmm ... music experience. Um, there's a beer garden. There's delicious food. There's just truly something for everyone. [00:08:27] Melissa: And y- I read something about a kids' zone or a kids' area. What is that like? [00:08:31] Jenna: Yeah. We've mo- we've called it, we call it Kid Days now. So instead of just one place where kids can enjoy the festival, we've spread it out throughout the whole festival. There's still a kids' zone. There's, there's, um, giant games, um, a kids' stage, so we have magicians and balloon artists and things like that, bubble artists. Um, but we also have other ways for kids to participate in the festival. Um, and so we've, we document that throughout our website and in our festival guides. You can check out everything that kids can do, um, not just, um, that one little space for the kids. I think that recently we created a new program, um, that has been super successful, and it's one of the most heartwarming parts of the festival. It's called the Kid Collectors Market And so our artists, they, we ask them to donate pieces of art, um, small pieces. Um, and they, they gladly do it, which is very amazing of them. Um, and we have a tent set up, and only the kids ages six to 12, only the kids are allowed to go into this market and pick out a piece of art for themselves so they can start their own art collection. It's just small fee. It's only $5, but they get to pick out, and no parents are allowed in there. We want them to have that experience of going in and picking it out their own unique piece of art. And it's just so heartwarming 'cause we give them the information of that art, um, so they can go check, check in with the artist and say- Hmm ... "Hey, thank you so much." And the artists have told us how much they enjoy that experience as well- I'm sure ... if the kids come in to check in with them. [00:10:10] Melissa: That's a great idea. [00:10:11] Jenna: It's really amazing. [00:10:13] Melissa: And it's... I, I know as a, as a mom of three, my kids are older now, but I was always looking for something to do, and it is, it does get even harder the the hotter the summer gets - Yeah ... to find something fun to do. And, um, you guys have endless fun- Yes ... for kids and families at Lazy Days. [00:10:33] Jenna: Absolutely. [00:10:34] Melissa: I know the name sa- says lazy, but I imagine the planning process says otherwise. How early do the preparations start? Do they start the minute it ends? The [00:10:46] Jenna: minute it ends. I think it actually starts before it actually ends. Yeah, yeah. Um, but yeah, it's, it's an ongoing process. Mm-hmm. It really never stops. Um, our artist applications actually open in, um, December. Our Spring Days applications, that's our other festival, um, they open in, um, October. So really as soon as Lazy Days is over, we are kicking it back into gear- Mm-hmm ... and getting ready for the next festival ahead. [00:11:12] Melissa: Are those your two biggest festivals that the town of Cary, um, puts on each year? I know we talked about the Pimento Cheese Festival, but that's working in conjunction with the Downtown Cary Park. [00:11:24] Jenna: That's right. [00:11:24] Melissa: Is Spring Days and Lazy Days really the two, like, biggest ones that you do? [00:11:29] Jenna: Yeah. [00:11:29] Melissa: Okay. [00:11:30] Jenna: Yeah. [00:11:30] Melissa: I mean, I'm not diminishing it- No ... because they're absolutely huge. They are. And I'm sure they keep you very busy. [00:11:36] Jenna: They do. [00:11:37] Melissa: Um, is, and is spring, do, does, do as many people come to the Spring Days Festival as Lazy Days, do you find? Spring [00:11:45] Jenna: Days is a one-day festival. Okay. Um, the difference between Spring Days and Lazy Days, the main difference, is that all of our Spring Days artists are local to North Carolina. [00:11:53] Melissa: Oh, I didn't realize that difference. [00:11:55] Jenna: Yeah. [00:11:55] Melissa: Okay. [00:11:56] Jenna: Okay. Yeah. So that's our North Carolina based festival. Mm-hmm. It's also a way that we celebrate Earth Day, um, because of the timing in April. Um, and it is, since it's only one day and it's at Bond Park, um, we average attendance about 15,000. [00:12:09] Melissa: Okay. W- which is a lot of people. [00:12:12] Jenna: Still nice. Yeah. Nice number of people. [00:16:40] Melissa: paint us a picture. What is your week gonna look like next week- Yeah ... the week leading up to the festival? [00:16:47] Jenna: We are going to be knee-deep in a lot of paper and packets. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We gotta pack all of the artist packets, make sure that they have all the information that they need. We'll be printing all of the signage to get you around. It actually, I think we have 90 A-frames at the festival, right? Oh, wow. Like, all of that stuff you just, you see, but you don't really see. Yes. All of that is, it, getting it all together, getting it all printed out, um, and ready to push go. A lot of emails. [00:17:14] Melissa: I'm, I'm having PTSD from hearing about the A-frames, because I have helped set up a, a big festival before, and yeah, people don't realize what goes on the night before, the day before, the week before these big things. And, and that is one of, one thing that is, you just don't think about, but it's very important, to have all the, the signage. [00:17:33] Jenna: Yeah. We actually get a lot of compliments, a lot of compliments- Mm-hmm ... from our artists saying how, um, organized our festival is, which, you know, it's great to hear as the festival organizer. [00:17:42] Melissa: Yeah. [00:17:42] Jenna: Um, I think a lot of other festivals maybe don't put as much into it as we do, so I think that's really, really nice to hear. And, um, it, it takes a lot to get to that point. [00:17:53] Melissa: Yeah, because these artists, this is what they do. They go to festival to festival to festival- Mm-hmm ... so they've seen it all. [00:17:58] Jenna: That's right. They [00:17:59] Melissa: know. They know what they're [00:17:59] Jenna: talking [00:17:59] Melissa: about. Yes. Yeah. Okay, how many moving pieces are involved, though? Because like you said, this is not just an artist festival. It's food, it's, it's music, it's volunteers. Is it organized chaos, or do you really, are, do you feel a, a sense of calm because you've put in so much work ahead of time? [00:18:21] Jenna: I mean, I- [00:18:22] Melissa: Or both? [00:18:22] Jenna: I was gonna say, I wanna say that I feel a sense of calm- Mm-hmm ... but there's always that i- intensity that comes around- Mm-hmm ... especially these couple weeks leading up to the festival. Um, there's so many moving pieces. You, you mentioned a lot of them. Um, but there's also all of the, the social media and the marketing that goes into it, um, to make sure that people are there. Mm-hmm. Um, our volunteer corps is so strong. Um, we have over, for Lazy Day specifically because we have Friday load in and then Saturday and Sunday, we have over 300 volunteer shifts just for Lazy Day. So we have one person who's just dedicated to making sure we get all of those volunteers situated and organized. Um, making sure that they get their T-shirts. Um Mm-hmm ... because that's the most important part of volunteering. [00:19:07] Melissa: It is. It absolutely is. [00:19:09] Jenna: Um, yeah, there's just, um, all of the emails that, back and forth with the artists and the vendors and just making sure that everybody has all of that information that they need to be prepared. It's, it's great. [00:19:20] Melissa: Yeah. It's great, but it, it's a lot. It's a lot. [00:19:22] Jenna: Yeah. [00:19:23] Melissa: Do you crash Monday? [00:19:25] Jenna: Um- Do you [00:19:26] Melissa: take Monday off? Please tell me you do. [00:19:27] Jenna: You [00:19:27] Melissa: know, it's so funny. Everybody when I, when I show up in the office on Monday they're like, "Why are you [00:19:32] Jenna: here?" [00:19:33] Melissa: What are you doing? [00:19:34] Jenna: No. Monday we gotta put everything away. Oh, yeah. It's Wednesday. That's true. We gotta put it all away. Tuesday is crash day. [00:19:39] Melissa: Oh, good. I'm glad that there, you have incorporated at least one crash day in there somewhere. [00:19:44] Jenna: That's right. [00:19:45] Melissa: Is there a festival emergency or, or something that crazy that it might have happened at some point that was not so funny when it happened, but maybe you can laugh about now? [00:19:57] Jenna: Yeah. You know, for the last two years at Spring Days the load out has been a torrential downpour. [00:20:06] Melissa: Oh. [00:20:07] Jenna: Yeah. So we made it through both days almost fully. Yeah. It was beautiful, especially this past Spring Days. It was such a gorgeous day- Mm-hmm ... to have everybody out, and then at 5:00, I think on the dot Oh, of course the, the, the sky fell down. So, um, you know, there's a- so much, like I mentioned, there's so much that goes into making sure that the vendors are prepared and our volunteers are ready to guide people out and move people over, get them cars loaded. But in that situation, I think everybody ran inside, but somehow all of those vendors still made their way out. [00:20:41] Melissa: Oh, I bet. So that's great. They're ready to go home. They're ready to pack it up and leave. Yeah. [00:20:45] Jenna: Yeah. We can laugh about it now, but if it rains again- It's gonna be a [00:20:49] Melissa: sight It's the, it's the curse of, of the, the load out [00:20:53] Default_2026-05-27_1: The [00:20:53] Jenna: load out. [00:20:53] Melissa: But at least it's during, you know, the, the time that everybody else has gone home. [00:20:58] Jenna: That's right. You know? I'm, I'm very thankful for that. I was completely drenched all the way through, but it didn't matter 'cause the festival happened, and it was really [00:21:05] Melissa: amazing. Good. Good. Okay, Cary has truly become such a hub for events and community experiences. I've, I always talk about Pimento Cheese Festival, but we've also had a really big soccer tournament in town, and now we're talking about Lazy Days. What do you think that sets this festival apart in terms of the other special things that happen in town? [00:21:31] Jenna: Yeah, I think it's, it's the heart of the festival. It's the history that it has, this 50-year tradition that people have been coming to year after year. Mm-hmm. Hearing those stories of the community, the Cary community, who just are so happy to see it every year, to come back to find hopefully those artists that they bought a piece from each year or experience a new artist that they never had seen before or a new, um, music act, like the new Squonk experience. Like, I think people just really enjoy- Being in downtown Cary in a different way, seeing the scale of this festival but still feeling like it's a community gathering experience. [00:22:13] Melissa: Yeah, it really does feel like that. Yeah. And I think it, it helps where it is because being in the Town Hall campus, I don't know, it just kinda feels like a Hallmark movie scene. [00:22:25] Jenna: Yes, absolutely. Mm-hmm. I completely agree with that. [00:22:28] Melissa: Yeah, and it, it, it does make it feel special and unique to anything else that happens in town. [00:22:33] Jenna: Yeah. [00:22:34] Melissa: Let's talk priorities because when I go to a festival, it is all about the food. What is your favorite can't miss food item at Lazy Days? [00:22:46] Jenna: Ooh, that is such a tough question. I [00:22:48] Melissa: know. I, I gotta, I gotta get you in a little bit of trouble here. That's [00:22:51] Jenna: right. I think you are, yes. Um, you know, the great thing about Lazy Days is that it's two days. [00:22:58] Melissa: Mm-hmm. [00:22:58] Jenna: And it goes from 9:00 to 5:00, which means I can get my breakfast coffee- Mm-hmm ... at, um, Mr. A's Beignets. [00:23:06] Melissa: Oh my gosh. Don't even talk about Mr. A's Beignets. [00:23:11] Jenna: So [00:23:11] Melissa: yummy. That is... I mean, yeah, and you can't, you can't not stop and get them. [00:23:16] Jenna: It's true. [00:23:16] Melissa: And it's dangerous. [00:23:17] Jenna: It's true, and they're so quick, so you're just like, "Oh." [00:23:19] Melissa: Yes. So good. Yes. [00:23:20] Jenna: Um, and then I... And then lunch, so I gotta get lunch. Mm-hmm. I think my favorite food truly is the acai, acai bowls. Oh. Miss Booey Bowls this year. Oh, yeah, [00:23:30] Melissa: Booey Bowls. Yeah. [00:23:31] Jenna: Um, gosh, it's like a smoothie, and it's cold 'cause- [00:23:34] Melissa: Yes ... it's hot [00:23:34] Jenna: outside. [00:23:35] Melissa: Yeah. So it's cold- That's smart ... [00:23:36] Jenna: and delicious and so yummy. [00:23:38] Melissa: Yes, yes. [00:23:39] Jenna: I, I- [00:23:40] Melissa: And it's healthy. [00:23:41] Jenna: It's healthy. [00:23:41] Melissa: Exactly. So you can pile on- Exactly ... for the other meals that you're getting. [00:23:44] Jenna: Yeah, when I... At the end of the day, when I get the, you know, the barbecue and the fried chicken- [00:23:49] Melissa: Mm, yep ... [00:23:49] Jenna: it'll be fine. [00:23:53] Melissa: What is the ideal Lazy Days game plan? Arrive early, map out booths, wander aimlessly? What, what do you like to do or, or suggest that people do? [00:24:05] Jenna: There is a lot to see. There's a lot to do. Mm. It's 250 plus artist booths. Um, each booth is, you know, its own experience in itself, so there is a lot to do. But I will say that I think the best-kept secret of Lazy Days is come on Sunday. Come on Sunday. Saturday is gonna be popular. You're gonna find some really amazing stuff. The experience is going to be great, but you're going to get the same experience on Sunday- [00:24:33] Melissa: Mm-hmm [00:24:33] Jenna: maybe with a little bit less crowd. So- That is a good, a good tip. Yeah. A- also on Sunday, which is really cool, we have, um, the first, um, two hours of the day, um, are our sensory-friendly, um, timeframe. And so we don't have the loud music playing, um, on any of the stages. We just kinda have, like, the low-key stuff maybe on the beer garden stage. Um, so if you want, like, a calmer festival experience, if you want a lazy festival experience- Mm-hmm, yeah ... maybe Sunday is your best bet. [00:25:05] Melissa: So the first two hours Sunday is the, the sensory time? That's right. Okay. That's right. [00:25:10] Jenna: Okay. [00:25:10] Melissa: That's very good to know. I didn't realize that. [00:25:12] Jenna: Um, in general, I'd say make sure you visit our website. Make sure- Mm-hmm ... which is carync.gov/lazydays. Um, make sure you follow us on social media, @caryartdays, because both of those options are going to give you a... All of the highlights that are happening, they're gonna help you. They're gonna have a map. You're gonna have a festival guide. You're gonna have... Actually, on our website is really cool. It has the entire artist gallery, so you can check out every artist that's gonna be there and see some of their photos and kind of plan your route that way. The booth numbers are on there as well. Mm-hmm. So you can come. You can plan if you're a planner, but you can also just wander aimlessly, because you're always gonna run into something really cool, too. [00:25:56] Melissa: I did check out the website, and it is, it is really important to, to go there, I think, so that you can have a plan. But on the website, a couple things stood out to me. You've mentioned the beer garden. That's [00:26:07] Jenna: right. [00:26:07] Melissa: And also a lazy lounge. So can you tell us about those two things? [00:26:12] Jenna: Yeah. So the beer garden, um, is presented by Sister Cities. Um, so it has an international flair. Um, but it is all this year, um, new this year. It's actually all local breweries that'll be participating. You can enjoy a nice ice-cold beverage on a hot day. And it has its own stage, um, which has, again, another international flair. So you can play, um, trivia on that. You can play trivia. You can, um, enjoy music from, um, a German band. Um, and then throughout the day, you can check out the whole schedule of what's happening, but it's just a really fun, um, experience, and the... It's in a cool space. It's in the courtyard at Town Hall, and so you've got the fountain. Yeah. You've got the picnic tables. There's food. There's beer. It's just a really fun little break in the middle of the festival. [00:27:03] Melissa: What are you most excited for this year? [00:27:07] Jenna: This year, um, well, right now we're in the heart of the 50 Days, um, which you mentioned that it's our 50th anniversary, so for the past however many days it's been at this point, um, we've been celebrating the 50 Days of Lazy Days. Um, and there's still more to come with the 50 Days as we lead up to the 22nd. Um, you can enjoy... You can check out everything that's happening on our website. Um, but there's a really cool stamp project. It's called a stamp rally. We had an artist design this amazing stamp, um, and it's in five layers. So you go out and you get a stamp at one location, and then you go to the next location, get a different color, get a different color until you have an amazing, unique own p- per piece of art that you created yourself. Um, I love that. It's really cool if you haven't tried it yet. Um, at the actual festival itself, um, I'm very excited this year for the 50th to introduce the emerging artists market. So these are artists who have never participated in a festival experience before, um, but they wanna dip their toes in what it's like to be an art vendor. [00:28:20] Melissa: Mm-hmm. [00:28:20] Jenna: Um, and so we had 40 artists apply specifically for that opportunity, and we were able to pick 15. These are all local artists, so we brought them in just from our community, um, to give them this very large festival experience. Um, and that's really cool. That'll be over in section C. [00:28:40] Melissa: I do love that, though, because it- it's got to feel intimidating as an artist to set up for the first time. [00:28:47] Jenna: Absolutely. [00:28:47] Melissa: And like you said, at- at such a big festival too. So to know that they're not alone in this- Yeah ... they have 14 other That's right ... emerging artists that are going through the same thing, I- I think that's cool. Yeah. Finish this sentence: A perfect Lazy Days weekend includes [00:29:07] Jenna: Hmm. It includes a new piece of art for my wall. [00:29:12] Melissa: Yeah. [00:29:12] Jenna: And a delicious buoy bowl. [00:29:14] Melissa: Oh, yeah. Yep, that sounds amazing to me. [00:29:17] Jenna: Yeah. [00:29:17] Melissa: And I mentioned the kettle corn and the lemonade earlier too. Mm-hmm. I, I, I think any festival I go to... Well, maybe not every festival, but it definitely does include lemonade. Maybe not kettle corn. I'll have to see what I'm feeling like this year. I haven't decided yet. [00:29:34] Jenna: I think that's [00:29:34] Melissa: appropriate. But your point about the buoy bowl, that's throwing me off. It is, it is a good idea because it's cool. So that, that's throwing me off, and I definitely will go to Mr. A's Beignets. [00:29:43] Jenna: Absolutely. ' [00:29:43] Melissa: Cause I'm gonna be thinking about that from here until the festival- now that you said it. This year's Lazy Days Arts and Crafts Festival is August 22nd and 23rd from 9:00 to 5:00 at the Cary Town Hall Campus. You already mentioned where to, to find it, but if you can say it one more time. Absolutely. The website and where to follow on social media. [00:30:04] Jenna: Yep. So our website is carync.gov/lazydays, [00:30:08] Melissa: and our social media handles on Facebook and Instagram is @caryartdaze. And that's days [00:30:13] Jenna: with a Z. D-A-Z-E. [00:30:16] Melissa: I'm glad you said that because I'm sure people will be spelling it wrong for the website. [00:30:19] Jenna: I do get a lot of D-A-Y-S's and a lot of D-A-Y-Z's. [00:30:23] Melissa: Yes. But it is [00:30:25] Jenna: D- D-A-Z-E ... A-Z-E. That's right. [00:30:27] Melissa: Perfect. Thank you so much for being here today, Jenna. Of course. And I'm excited to see you at the festival. [00:30:31] Jenna: Thank you so much for having me.