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Credlin | 27 March · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandland Live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening. Well we're off to the races, aren't we. I'll
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Speaker 2: go through all of that in a moment. Here's what's
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Speaker 2: coming up tonight on Kredline. Ah, the stuff up today,
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's own department dead give away about the
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Speaker 2: date of the election. Biggest blunder I've ever seen. I'll
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Speaker 2: give you the whole story, at least in public service terms,
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Speaker 2: the biggest blunder In a moment. Common sense prevails in
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Speaker 2: the NT. Let's hope that's contagious. The new Conservative governor
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Speaker 2: Darwen scrapping the twenty thirty renewables target completely. This at
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Speaker 2: zero agenda's falling apart. And if we get rid of
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Speaker 2: Chris Bowen we might even get some common sense in Canberra.
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Speaker 2: Plus in Victoria, looks like the TLS too serious trouble
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Speaker 2: for them. New polling showing dire results for the Gucci Greens.
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Speaker 2: It's been a bad campaign already for Menique Ryan and
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Speaker 2: if the polls are right, set to get a whole
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Speaker 2: lot worse. So Doctor Ryan, let's get that right. I'll
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Speaker 2: go through that training video where she demands to be
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Speaker 2: called doctor Ryan in a moment and not long now
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Speaker 2: until Peter Dutton's budget dress. In reply, he's calling Labour's
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Speaker 2: bluff and he is vowing to slash the fuel excise.
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Speaker 2: So what's going to sway voters? A big price drop
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Speaker 2: at the bowser or seventy cents a day from labor?
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Speaker 3: Sure has said, quote the reason why we support fuel
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Speaker 3: excise relief we want to see people under less pressure
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Speaker 3: at the bowser. Why is the Treasurer now refusing to
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Speaker 3: cut the fuel excise to provide immediate relief?
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Speaker 4: The Shadow Treasurer cared about the cost of living. He
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Speaker 4: wouldn't be the first Shadow Treasurer in living memory to
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Speaker 4: take to an election a policy to increase income taxes
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Speaker 4: on every single Australian taxpayer.
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Speaker 2: But first in a monumental stuff up. The election was
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Speaker 2: inadvertently announced today, not by the Prime Minister but his
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Speaker 2: own department. Is there anything this government hasn't staffed up
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Speaker 2: in its three years in office?
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Speaker 5: Now?
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Speaker 2: Initially I thought this was a joke. A social media
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Speaker 2: post that went up today on the official PM and
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Speaker 2: C account announcing that the country was now officially in
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Speaker 2: caretaker mode. Now it lasted online for all of about
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Speaker 2: four minutes before someone and a very serious red face
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Speaker 2: I suspect took it down, but it prompted this embarrassing
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Speaker 2: exchange in Senate estimates.
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Speaker 6: Are we in caretaker right now?
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Speaker 7: Senator, No, we're not exactly.
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Speaker 6: The bad news is the Prime insis can't get to
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Speaker 6: call the election, so one don't know who's running the country.
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Speaker 7: Good god, Senator. My colleagues are trying to work out
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Speaker 7: why this occurred. So I will just say that obviously
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Speaker 7: this is an error and we apologize for that.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 2: Clearly tomorrow Anthony Albanese will call the election based on
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of hints, will likely head to the
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Speaker 2: polls on Saturday, the third of May.
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Speaker 8: I've got a birthday in May, so I just need
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Speaker 8: to know which weekends I'm keeping free.
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Speaker 9: Well, okay, well it will be in May. I can
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Speaker 9: guarantee that, and it'll be called pretty imminently that I'm
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Speaker 9: not calling it today, but I will call it soon.
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Speaker 2: If this all is all about a cunning plan to
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Speaker 2: try and take attention away from Peter Dutton's budget reply tonight,
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Speaker 2: well I think the PEMS failed effectively. He's actually short
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Speaker 2: circuiting his own budget and his own election announcement, and
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Speaker 2: he's given the opposition leader a nationally televised speech tonight
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Speaker 2: to kick off the start of the campaign, not the
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Speaker 2: staged courtyard sort of event that pms in the past
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Speaker 2: have used to try and get that first crack at
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Speaker 2: framing the election. Contests will be relieved to know their
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Speaker 2: days of standing on street corners waiting for the election
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Speaker 2: to be called over and today I seek a mandate
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Speaker 2: from the Australian people to move Australia forward.
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Speaker 10: Moving forward, of course, requires conviction, it requires confidence. Moving
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Speaker 10: forward with confidence also requires a strong set of convictions
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Speaker 10: and a clear set of values.
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Speaker 2: Goodness may I've got PTSD watching that because it was
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Speaker 2: roundly mocked at the time, But that's what the opposite
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Speaker 2: what the Prime Minister tries to do with that initial
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Speaker 2: first press conference frame the contest. Instead, Tonight that first
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Speaker 2: crack at framing the contest will be given to Peter Dutton.
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Speaker 2: Now cleverly, Dutton's already flagged some of the announcements you'll
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Speaker 2: make tonight in the morning papers, and because that's then
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Speaker 2: picked up by TV and radio, we've had a whole
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Speaker 2: day of coverage around the oppositions plans to deal with
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Speaker 2: cost of living. Poor old Jim Chalmers, he's only had
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Speaker 2: one day at a bit out of his seventy cents
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Speaker 2: a day tax cut before the switch has already been
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Speaker 2: flipped to the opposition, and instead of a seventy cent
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Speaker 2: to day tax cut in a year or so's time, tonight,
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Speaker 2: the Coalition will offer most families a fifteen hundred dollars
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Speaker 2: a year saving on their power bill on their cost
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Speaker 2: of living bill by harving fuel excise if elected. Instead
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Speaker 2: of a small change tax cut next year, cutting twenty
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Speaker 2: five cents a leter from the fuel excise, or about
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Speaker 2: fourteen dollars off an average tank of petrol, it gives
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Speaker 2: people an immediate cost of living relief. For anyone who
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Speaker 2: drives a petrol or diesel car. Now that's families and
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Speaker 2: out of metro areas who more than often use multiple
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Speaker 2: tanks of fuel a week and more than often have
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Speaker 2: more than one car per household. Its trade is too,
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Speaker 2: who need their uts for work and spend hours and
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Speaker 2: hours in our urban traffic. It's also for the people
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Speaker 2: in the country who drive the big k's, the regional
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Speaker 2: voters that are too often left behind under labor best
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Speaker 2: of all here, the more you drive, the more you save,
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Speaker 2: and unlike personal income tax cars, this fuel excise cart
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Speaker 2: will flow through and reduce all the prices we pay
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Speaker 2: on everything that's transported to the shops via road transport.
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Speaker 2: So this is very much pitched to the Coalition's most
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Speaker 2: prospective seats, the seats they need to win to win government.
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Speaker 2: For those who vote Green in the inn A city,
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Speaker 2: not much here for them because they don't like to
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Speaker 2: use their cars like the rest of us do. So
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Speaker 2: I say this is also a bit of a sign
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Speaker 2: of support for petrol and diesel fuel as well. And
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Speaker 2: as it's temporary, targeted cost of living relief, the hit
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Speaker 2: to the budget will be just a one off six
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Speaker 2: billion dollars as opposed to Labour's seventeen billion dollar hit
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Speaker 2: to the current forward estimates, which will only grow over time.
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Speaker 2: Now I think the Coalians out played Labor here on
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Speaker 2: both the politics and the economics. On the politics because
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Speaker 2: it's more cost of living relief sooner than Labour's insulting
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Speaker 2: seventy cents a day, and on the economics because it's temporary,
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Speaker 2: it's not permanent, and it flows through to the cost
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Speaker 2: of everything we buy that gets to us via a
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Speaker 2: transport truck cutting fuel excise? Is it new to Liberals?
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Speaker 2: John Howard did it in two thousand and one. Scott
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Speaker 2: Morrison did it again during COVID. Now back then, I
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Speaker 2: hate to remind the Treasurer he actually supported it.
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Speaker 11: So the twenty two cents a leader fuel excise cut?
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Speaker 12: You support it?
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Speaker 13: Yeah, But it's bad policy, isn't it.
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Speaker 12: Well?
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's bad policy to support people through
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Speaker 4: difficult times.
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Speaker 2: Funny that he was hysterical about it today in question
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Speaker 2: time but supported in the past. Now this time tomorrow
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Speaker 2: finally will be an official election campaign mode. It will
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Speaker 2: be a dirty campaign with plenty of below the belt
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Speaker 2: personal attacks on Peter Dutton because Labor is desperate to
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Speaker 2: avoid making history by becoming the first one turn government
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Speaker 2: to lose in nearly a century.
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Speaker 5: Now, given just how close the polls are.
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Speaker 2: It'll be the campaign itself that determines the result. And
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Speaker 2: the result matters, by god, it matters because the country
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Speaker 2: can't afford another three years like the past three years
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Speaker 2: with an eight percent decline in our living standards and
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Speaker 2: those power bills that would be up by forty five percent.
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Speaker 2: This is in the government's own budget papers. If it
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Speaker 2: wasn't for Labour's handouts, There's no doubt the coalition started well.
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Speaker 2: It's regained the momentum that it briefly seemed to lose
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Speaker 2: after the PM delayed calling the election because of the cyclone.
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Speaker 5: Let's hope they keep it up.
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton, well, I think he's also grown into the
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Speaker 2: role of alternative PM, and I think he can be
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Speaker 2: expected to handle the rigors of an election campaign far
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Speaker 2: better than Anthony Albanezi, whose last national campaign on the
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Speaker 2: Voice was an abject failure. The one before that, his
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Speaker 2: election campaign, well, it was a shocker.
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Speaker 3: Mentioned the Reserve Bank earlier.
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Speaker 14: Do you know the official cash right off the top
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Speaker 14: of your head.
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Speaker 9: We can do the old old Q and a staff
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Speaker 9: over fifty different Are.
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Speaker 11: You just not going to answer those kinds of specific
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Speaker 11: questions for this campaign?
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Speaker 9: Not at all? What I was what I was not
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Speaker 9: going to enter into as an auction in terms of
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Speaker 9: you know that Tasmanian unemployment rate and the various rates
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Speaker 9: that have put forward. It's up to people to ask
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Speaker 9: whatever questions they want. Andrew, what's the national unemployment right,
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Speaker 9: national unemployment rate at the moment is I think it's
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Speaker 9: five points for Sorry, I'm not sure what is.
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Speaker 2: He was a train wreck of a campaigner last time,
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Speaker 2: but he survived because he was up against Scott Morrison.
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Speaker 2: Not like that this time. By choosing to offer cost
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Speaker 2: of living relief via those fuel cuts, the Coalition has
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Speaker 2: spot lit the fact that this election is less a
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Speaker 2: choice between the Coalition and Labor and instead a choice
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Speaker 2: between a Dutton majority government and an alban easy banned alliance,
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Speaker 2: the Frankenstein option I call it.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 2: Nearly all the polls of Labour's voted at least two
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Speaker 2: percentage points behind where it was at that last election.
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Speaker 2: Having only a two seat majority last time, Labor cannot
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Speaker 2: win majority government this time many it will have to
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Speaker 2: make a deal with the Greens. A coalition, by contrast,
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Speaker 2: can only form a majority government because the Greens and
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Speaker 2: the Teals will never do a deal with them. No
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Speaker 2: Liberal or NAT would ever sacrifice their values to appears
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Speaker 2: Adam Bant, so in making the choice, he has to
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Speaker 2: reject everything that the hard left stands for. Dutton has
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Speaker 2: helped to create the contest He needs. The more voters
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Speaker 2: consider the real choice as one between Dutton on one hand,
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Speaker 2: and between Albanezi and band on the other, the more
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Speaker 2: likely they are to vote for change as well. In
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Speaker 2: his formal budget reply are now just a little over
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Speaker 2: an hour, the opposition leaders expected to give more detail
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Speaker 2: and the coalition's energy policy particular gas, more detail on
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Speaker 2: cuts to immigration, and more detail on his plans to
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Speaker 2: ramp up defense.
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Speaker 9: Now.
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Speaker 2: I hope there'll be more too, on flying one flag,
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Speaker 2: not three, on stressing our national unity over our diversity.
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Speaker 2: I want to see liberals declare with clarity that women
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Speaker 2: and girls should not have to face unfair sporting competition
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Speaker 2: from biological men, and I hope it Dartin will stress
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Speaker 2: that immigrants can't just come here to share our wealth.
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Speaker 2: They've got to share our values as well. Because this
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Speaker 2: election is so much more than just what side is
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Speaker 2: better for your hip pocket. It's about the sort of
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Speaker 2: country we are, one comprising strong citizens, or one dominated
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Speaker 2: by ever bigger and more bloated government. If you think
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Speaker 2: things are bad now, just think how much worse they
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Speaker 2: could be after three years of the Greens pushing a
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Speaker 2: very weak Anthony Alberici around. All right, we'll go there
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Speaker 2: now to camera for the headlines Skyniess political reporter Reuben Spargo.
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Speaker 15: The Opposition is vowing to repeal the government's tax cuts
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Speaker 15: if it is elected. The surprise legislation past the Senate
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Speaker 15: with the support of the Greens and the cross Bench.
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Speaker 3: Is they've already accepted that there will be a permanent
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Speaker 3: cost of living crist under Labor. Will we take a
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Speaker 3: different approach?
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Speaker 15: Labor is a party of lower taxes.
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Speaker 9: The Liberals dot you burning less.
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Speaker 5: And can be less.
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Speaker 15: The coalition is pledging to temporarily have the fuel excise.
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Speaker 15: Labor was quick to rule out matching the pre election pitch.
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Speaker 15: The commitment reduces the tax on petrol and diesel from
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Speaker 15: fifty point eight cents to twenty five point four cents
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Speaker 15: per liter for twelve months. It will cost the budget
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Speaker 15: six billion dollars. The coalition predicts the immediate measure will
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Speaker 15: save the average household twenty eight dollars a week. It's
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Speaker 15: in response to Labour's five dollars a week tax cut,
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Speaker 15: which will take effects in a year's time.
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Speaker 16: Giving the fuel tax cut now to family straight away
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Speaker 16: is a better option than providing seventy cents a day
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Speaker 16: in fifteen months time.
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Speaker 2: All right, o't to you, miss say it move pretty quickly.
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Speaker 2: Today after PM and C the Department, Minister and Cabinet
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Speaker 2: accidentally posted this tweet stating that the government was in
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Speaker 2: caretaker mode, now quickly deleted, but not for the Coalition
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Speaker 2: picked it up and jumped on it in Senate estimates
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Speaker 2: that in itself created only more confusion.
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Speaker 6: Approximately nine minutes ago, the Department published a tweet advising
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Speaker 6: that the government is now operating in accordance with caretaker conventions.
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Speaker 5: It's going to be easy to see who fuss up
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Speaker 5: on this.
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Speaker 6: But are you able to confirm that it went I
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Speaker 6: wasn't aware of it until you. No, it was tweeted
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Speaker 6: and deleted.
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Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't aware of it till you, Indica, honestly
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Speaker 2: want to mess joining me in now? Political Editor Andrew Clanell, Well,
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Speaker 2: I suspect, mate, you were leaving Canberra tonight until that
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Speaker 2: tweet went out. Now you're locked in to the capital city.
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Speaker 2: I mean clearly the PM will visit the Government General tomorrow.
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Speaker 5: We're on, aren't we.
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Speaker 12: Yeah?
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Speaker 17: Now, I was in the bar last night and someone
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Speaker 17: came who would know, came up to me and said,
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Speaker 17: don't go home tomorrow. That's what happened. It's been good
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Speaker 17: for Friday for you know, that's how it works down here.
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Speaker 2: So so any sense of the timing is it going
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Speaker 2: to be in the morning? Where do you think the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister will kick off the campaign officially once he
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Speaker 2: gets out of Canberra. What state do we know that
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Speaker 2: he's going to head to first?
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Speaker 17: Geez asking a lot there. I haven't got those state secrets.
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Speaker 17: I think it'll be in the morning. Typically it's something
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Speaker 17: made time with breakfast TV Peter. But to get the run,
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Speaker 17: I know he's in Canberra Sunday and he's going to
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Speaker 17: be on Insiders, so he's got to be back in
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Speaker 17: Canberra Sunday. That's kind of the weird part about it.
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Speaker 17: So perhaps he goes to Sydney first. Perhaps he campaigns
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Speaker 17: in Sydney and then comes back to Canberra. That's my
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Speaker 17: best guess. But he can fly anywhere and fly back
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Speaker 17: of course.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be interested to know exactly the timing of
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Speaker 2: the riots and everything else, because that triggers the equivalents
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Speaker 2: with the opposition. I mean, the Opposition doesn't automatically get
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Speaker 2: access to their own aircraft. The journals don't immediately get
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Speaker 2: their trailing media planes, you don't get all the additional
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Speaker 2: support staff and the laptops and all the stuff that
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Speaker 2: the opposition doesn't have. That takes a bit of time
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Speaker 2: to come through. So you know, maybe he'll have a
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Speaker 2: head start for a weekend. I mean, he's got a
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Speaker 2: lot of rat cunning. They'll be running it pretty hard.
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Speaker 5: Will this.
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Speaker 2: Do you think gazump any traction Dutton might get out
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Speaker 2: of the speech tonight?
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Speaker 12: Now? I don't think that.
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Speaker 17: I'm sure the government thinks that, but I don't think
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Speaker 17: that will be the case because what Peter Dutton will
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Speaker 17: announce will be front and center of all the television
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Speaker 17: that people are watching and the media that people are
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Speaker 17: reading about the campaign. In terms of the planes issue,
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Speaker 17: all I can recall from last time is we were
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Speaker 17: put on an doble Af plane initially, so there wasn't
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Speaker 17: any sort of delay there tonight, as I understand it.
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Speaker 17: As well as the fuel excise policy, sources of telling
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Speaker 17: me he's going to announce a gas reservation, so making
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Speaker 17: sure that not all of our gas is exported, legislating
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Speaker 17: to ensure that a lot of it has to stay here,
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Speaker 17: and in doing that with gas fired power stations, that's
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Speaker 17: his short term fix for energy bills, so that I
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Speaker 17: think is the other big headline other than the fuel
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Speaker 17: excise changed tonight, and the theme will be as stronger
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Speaker 17: and safe for Australia, and he'll probably also flag but
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Speaker 17: not make the announcement on the increased defense spending, which
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Speaker 17: is one of the which is the main reason actually
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Speaker 17: that Peter Dutton decided not to go with the tax
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Speaker 17: cuts or better the tax cuts of the government because
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Speaker 17: he needs money from savings or wherever to fund that
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Speaker 17: increased defense spending. And that's obviously a concern for many
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Speaker 17: people and showing up in focus groups and the like,
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Speaker 17: particularly after that Chinese naval exercise in recent times. So look,
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Speaker 17: it's designed to move the story along. We'll move the
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Speaker 17: story along to some extent, but Peter up and will
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Speaker 17: be at a press conference and on the morning TV's
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Speaker 17: talking about his speech last night. The fact an election
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Speaker 17: is on, to my mind anyway, just elevates the story.
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Speaker 14: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Look, we've been at a false war sort of campaign
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Speaker 2: anyway for a number of weeks, ever since they moved
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Speaker 2: out of that weekend in relation to cyclone.
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Speaker 5: Alfred.
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Speaker 2: I'll talk to my viewers a little bit later on
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Speaker 2: about caretaker conventions and a few other things. But what
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Speaker 2: can you tell us about the campaign HQ's for the
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Speaker 2: two major parties.
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Speaker 17: Well, they're both in Sydney, so the Liberal parties in
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Speaker 17: western Sydney and the Low party ones in kind of
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Speaker 17: central Sydney, and they'll all be armed to the teeth
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Speaker 17: as of tomorrow with the federal directors and all their
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Speaker 17: support staff there. So Sydney and Melbourne are seen as
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Speaker 17: the key battlegrounds of the election. That's where Peter Dutton's
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Speaker 17: most likely to pick up seats New South Wales sort
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Speaker 17: of around the hunt of the central coast as well
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Speaker 17: as Sydney and now to suburban Melbourne and there's you know,
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Speaker 17: there's the potential for eight to nine seats just there.
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Speaker 17: So that's really I expect, you know, I'll spend a
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Speaker 17: bit of time on the trail. Other reporters will spend
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Speaker 17: more time, but I reckon they'll be spending a lot
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Speaker 17: of time in Sydney and Melbourne.
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Speaker 12: To be frank, Peter, I.
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Speaker 5: Think you're spot island.
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Speaker 2: I think you probably need to go back to the
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Speaker 2: pub tonight and see what else you can find out
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Speaker 2: andrela now, thank you I probably don't need to tell
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Speaker 2: him to go back to the bar, all right, just
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Speaker 2: over now and now to Peter Dutton gives his budget address.
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Speaker 2: In reply, I've said it's going to be a big speech.
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Speaker 2: I said it will be the speech of his life
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Speaker 2: if he lands it right. The PM, well, the departments
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Speaker 2: say we're in caretake them over.
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Speaker 5: We're not there yet.
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Speaker 2: Parliament today did go ahead, certainly at least in the
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Speaker 2: lower house. The Senate was in estimates. We had question time.
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Speaker 2: Of course, we're going to discuss all of this now
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Speaker 2: with our political reporter Can Reddit and Cam. I'll tell
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Speaker 2: you what the fuel x sise really kicked off the
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Speaker 2: morning media cycle and the Opposition leader we saw do
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Speaker 2: worlds War coverage across breakfast television. I listened to a
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Speaker 2: lot of radio around the country which you can do
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Speaker 2: now via apps, which is great to get a sense
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Speaker 2: of what's happening on the ground. And it was dominating discussion.
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Speaker 2: And I make the point again that the difference with
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Speaker 2: this is a measure the householder filling up the car
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Speaker 2: at the bowser will get immediate relief, but it will
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Speaker 2: also pass through all the goods and services that we
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Speaker 2: buy that are delivered to us via road transport. If
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Speaker 2: you're a household with a couple of cars, this on
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Speaker 2: average is about fifteen hundred dollars a year in terms
20:53
Speaker 2: of saving. It's a hell of a lot more than
20:55
Speaker 2: the five dollars a week seventy cents a day sort
20:57
Speaker 2: of stuff from the Opposition. But it will us as
21:00
Speaker 2: you'd expect. A feature of the House has the reps
21:03
Speaker 2: today have a listen.
21:06
Speaker 5: For families in the Southwest and Western Sydney. If this
21:09
Speaker 5: is going to happen, there will be great news. Because
21:12
Speaker 5: people are on three to four casts.
21:13
Speaker 3: To offer them seventy cents a day out more than
21:17
Speaker 3: a year from now is truly an insult.
21:20
Speaker 17: It's a cruel hoax.
21:21
Speaker 4: This is a proper brain explosion from the Coalition.
21:26
Speaker 12: This is a proper brain snap.
21:27
Speaker 4: What Australians are working, earning more and keeping more of
21:31
Speaker 4: what they earned because of this Labor government.
21:34
Speaker 9: That is a decision that the Australian people will have
21:37
Speaker 9: to have to determine.
21:39
Speaker 15: Remember, Labor is a party of lower taxes.
21:44
Speaker 5: Cam I'll be interested in your reader the day.
21:49
Speaker 8: The Party of lower taxes, says the Prime Minister Peter
21:52
Speaker 8: get ready to hear a lot more of that over
21:53
Speaker 8: the next couple of weeks, because that's what Labor wants.
21:55
Speaker 8: They want this fight on tax now. Maybe that was
21:57
Speaker 8: a little bit of a gift they weren't expecting when
21:59
Speaker 8: the Coalition said they were going to oppose.
22:01
Speaker 5: These tax cuts. You're right, it's interesting, Peter.
22:03
Speaker 8: I've had people on both sides say to me today, look,
22:06
Speaker 8: there's a tax cut now on offer from both sides.
22:10
Speaker 8: Neither though committing to broader tax reform. We know Andrew
22:14
Speaker 8: has been reporting today that that won't be a feature
22:16
Speaker 8: of Peter Dutton's speech tonight or in the campaign, that
22:19
Speaker 8: there's not going to be a larger commitment.
22:21
Speaker 12: To tax reform. Yet.
22:22
Speaker 8: I do wonder about the timing all of this, which
22:24
Speaker 8: I think is really interesting. You know, of course Labour's
22:27
Speaker 8: tax cuts don't kick in for fifteen months. These from
22:30
Speaker 8: Peter Dutton with the fuel excise would kick in, you
22:32
Speaker 8: would think basically from day one if they're elected. I
22:35
Speaker 8: wonder if that twelve month the temporary feature of this
22:38
Speaker 8: fuel excise cut is almost Peter Dutton and Angus Taylor
22:41
Speaker 8: saying to themselves, all right, this gives us twelve months
22:44
Speaker 8: to come up with something if we want to embark
22:47
Speaker 8: on something more ambitious broad a tax reform for example.
22:50
Speaker 8: I know you were talking last night about say indexing
22:52
Speaker 8: the income tax brackets, which for someone at home, they
22:55
Speaker 8: might not really look at how the tax bracket system work,
22:58
Speaker 8: but they feel bracket creep. So that's the sort of
23:01
Speaker 8: bigger reform that you might need to soften an electorate
23:03
Speaker 8: up for and then go to another election on rather
23:06
Speaker 8: than sort of drop this on them now. And so
23:09
Speaker 8: maybe that is part of the approach here. And of
23:11
Speaker 8: course in twelve months time, Peter, when that fuel excise cut,
23:13
Speaker 8: say the opposition becomes the government, when that excise cut
23:17
Speaker 8: was due to come off, Labor will be saying, well,
23:19
Speaker 8: this is when our tax cuts would have been coming in.
23:22
Speaker 8: Is that sort of the MIDI deadline that Peter Dutton
23:24
Speaker 8: Onangez Taylor will be thinking about of rolling out more
23:28
Speaker 8: comprehensive reforms. So maybe there's a two steps strategy to this.
23:30
Speaker 8: I don't know if that's just me thinking in ford HS,
23:33
Speaker 8: but perhaps that is a little feature of fixing something
23:36
Speaker 8: for now and then thinking about how to embark on
23:38
Speaker 8: the longer term.
23:42
Speaker 5: I do think your two stage point is valid.
23:44
Speaker 2: I think the reason why you wouldn't do it now
23:47
Speaker 2: from opposition that very big structural reform.
23:50
Speaker 5: It's really hard to model it.
23:51
Speaker 2: You know, you need a massive supercomputer and all the
23:54
Speaker 2: resources of Treasury to do it and make a bulletproof
23:57
Speaker 2: going into an election campaign. So I would say, you know,
24:01
Speaker 2: if they are winners after the election, this will absolutely wider,
24:06
Speaker 2: broader tax reform will be on the table for the Coalition.
24:08
Speaker 5: I also make the political point.
24:10
Speaker 2: I don't think any punter out there a buys Labour's
24:12
Speaker 2: line that we're better economic managers when you've got a
24:15
Speaker 2: trillion dollars of debt. I don't think anyone says that,
24:18
Speaker 2: you know, Labour's better on tax when they're getting seventy
24:21
Speaker 2: cents a day compared to fifteen hundred dollars at the bowser.
24:24
Speaker 2: Because fuel excise is fuel tax. It's one and the
24:28
Speaker 2: same thing. So it's a bit like Labour saying we're
24:31
Speaker 2: tougher on migration issues than the Coalition. There's no equity there.
24:35
Speaker 2: So I don't think it'll be a big feature of
24:37
Speaker 2: the campaign. I think once the campaign gets underway, it'll
24:40
Speaker 2: be the performance of the two leaders. It will be
24:42
Speaker 2: issues like next one we're going to talk about, it'll
24:44
Speaker 2: be issues like immigration, and there's a lot of concern
24:47
Speaker 2: today where people now have had some time to go
24:50
Speaker 2: through the budget papers that Labour's numbers. You know that
24:54
Speaker 2: they're predicting a full in migration in twenty twenty six,
24:58
Speaker 2: twenty seven down to two hundred twenty five thousand.
25:03
Speaker 5: It's pretty unlikely.
25:05
Speaker 2: A former well respected secretary of the Department or department
25:08
Speaker 2: to number two ab or Risby. He says, you know
25:13
Speaker 2: this is not gonna happen. It's basically fanciful. And I
25:16
Speaker 2: think this is preps where Peter Dutton, if he doesn't
25:18
Speaker 2: go there Tonightcamp is going to go pretty hard on
25:21
Speaker 2: during the campaign.
25:24
Speaker 8: Yeah, good luck getting those sort of productions, Peter. Of course,
25:27
Speaker 8: net migration you kind of almost have to take all
25:29
Speaker 8: of these figures with the little asterisk because net migration's
25:32
Speaker 8: really hard for governors to control because they don't control
25:34
Speaker 8: the number of people going out net migration the difference
25:36
Speaker 8: between those coming in and those going out, so there
25:39
Speaker 8: are variables. There are things like Australians coming back from
25:42
Speaker 8: long term postings overseas that.
25:43
Speaker 5: Add to that as well.
25:44
Speaker 8: But Peter Dutton, you're right, has really targeted that permanent migration,
25:47
Speaker 8: which is something that governments can control and getting that
25:50
Speaker 8: down at least over the short to medium term, linking
25:53
Speaker 8: that to the housing crisis, which is the political cell point.
25:56
Speaker 8: He's pointing that directly to one of the causes of
25:59
Speaker 8: the housing crisis. So we'll see what the coalition does
26:02
Speaker 8: do on housing tonight. We know that that's been a
26:04
Speaker 8: theme that've seized on really ever since the last election.
26:08
Speaker 8: It's an important reach out point for younger voters, particularly
26:11
Speaker 8: many of them voting for the first or maybe the
26:13
Speaker 8: second time of trying to win that younger generation and
26:17
Speaker 8: listening to many of the podcast Peter, I think we've
26:18
Speaker 8: spoken about this before. Some of the more unconventional places
26:21
Speaker 8: that the leaders have been popping up in recently, it's
26:24
Speaker 8: been housing almost in every single one of them, particularly
26:27
Speaker 8: with some of these you know, influencer types, the younger
26:29
Speaker 8: podcast hosts and those types. Housing is one of those issues.
26:33
Speaker 8: It's in the top two for a lot of voters.
26:35
Speaker 8: So what they do tonight it could be a real
26:38
Speaker 8: scene setter and a point of difference between the two.
26:42
Speaker 2: Well, right, I'll let you go and I've got to
26:43
Speaker 2: pack a bag. You'll hit the trail tomorrow, I suspect,
26:46
Speaker 2: and good luck for your first campaign here on sky
26:48
Speaker 2: on New Thanks cam Reddit. All right after the break,
26:51
Speaker 2: the green Agenda's will and truly coming undone. The Conservative
26:54
Speaker 2: government of the NT they scraped today the twenty thirty
26:58
Speaker 2: renewables target.
27:00
Speaker 5: Plus the Teals in trouble in Victoria. Gosh, we can
27:03
Speaker 5: only hope, so can't we. We'll get to that in
27:05
Speaker 5: a moment. Well, welcome back.
27:11
Speaker 2: Still to come that polling that's got the Teals worried
27:13
Speaker 2: in Victoria. Michael Kroger will join me shortly, but first
27:16
Speaker 2: and all, the territory governments scrapped a target set by
27:18
Speaker 2: the previous Labor government which would have seen fifty percent
27:22
Speaker 2: of its power produced by renewables by twenty thirty. Here
27:26
Speaker 2: was NT's Deputy Chief Minister, Gerald Mayley today.
27:31
Speaker 18: We know that over the last eight years Labor have
27:34
Speaker 18: only reached about twenty percent renewables into the system. And
27:39
Speaker 18: we've looked into this matter and now it's been in office.
27:42
Speaker 18: It's going to cost an estimated five billion dollars to
27:45
Speaker 18: get us up to fifty percent renewables.
27:50
Speaker 2: Jamie, our our Northern Australia correspondent Matt Cunningham. Well, Matt Cunningham,
27:55
Speaker 2: no wonder Labour kept those numbers under wraps.
28:00
Speaker 19: Well, they went to great lengths to do that as well, Peter.
28:03
Speaker 19: I mean this announcement today should come as absolutely no
28:06
Speaker 19: surprise to anyone who's been following this issue closely. It
28:09
Speaker 19: was in twenty seventeen that the former Labor government released
28:13
Speaker 19: its Roadmap to Renewables report and said it was going
28:16
Speaker 19: to hit fifty percent renewable energy for electricity generation by
28:21
Speaker 19: twenty thirty.
28:21
Speaker 12: But all along the.
28:23
Speaker 19: Way there were signs that this policy was an absolute disaster.
28:28
Speaker 19: In twenty twenty, the Independent Utilities Commissioner put out a
28:31
Speaker 19: report saying that this target was unrealistic, if not impossible,
28:37
Speaker 19: and that trying to achieve it would be both complex
28:40
Speaker 19: and expensive. And about the same time, the government commissioned
28:43
Speaker 19: its own report into the potential cost of this policy.
28:47
Speaker 19: We applied for that report at the time under freedom
28:50
Speaker 19: of information, and when we got it back, one hundred
28:53
Speaker 19: and sixteen of the one hundred and eighteen pages in
28:55
Speaker 19: that report everything but the front and back cover had
28:58
Speaker 19: been completely adapted. I think we got a bit of
29:02
Speaker 19: clarity and a bit of transparency around this issue today
29:06
Speaker 19: from the New Country Liberal Party government. And that figure
29:08
Speaker 19: that you heard from Jared Mayley, they're the Deputy Chief
29:11
Speaker 19: Minister that even now we're only at twenty percent and
29:14
Speaker 19: if we've continued down this path the cost would have
29:17
Speaker 19: been another five billion dollars by twenty thirty. Remember, we've
29:21
Speaker 19: already spent god knows how much money trying to achieve this.
29:25
Speaker 19: So I don't think anyone who has followed this closely
29:28
Speaker 19: would be at all surprised that this government has today
29:31
Speaker 19: scrapped that target.
29:34
Speaker 2: And you got to twenty percent renewables. How reliable was
29:37
Speaker 2: at twenty percent?
29:41
Speaker 19: Well, that was the other problem that we were encountering
29:45
Speaker 19: along the way, because the more renewable energy that was
29:47
Speaker 19: going into the system, the less reliable the system was becoming. Now,
29:54
Speaker 19: the Labor government for a long time had a one
29:58
Speaker 19: for one payment for the feeding tariff, so people who
30:02
Speaker 19: put rooftop solar on their homes were basically getting a
30:06
Speaker 19: dollar back for every dollar worth of energy they put in.
30:08
Speaker 19: So there was a huge uptake of rooftop solar. The
30:12
Speaker 19: problem was it was causing all sorts of problems for
30:16
Speaker 19: the people who were trying to keep the lights on.
30:18
Speaker 19: So the more people who were putting rooftop solar on,
30:20
Speaker 19: the less stability there was in the grid. Lo and behold,
30:23
Speaker 19: and far too late. The government then had to come
30:26
Speaker 19: out and say, look, we're scrapping that one for one
30:28
Speaker 19: feeding tariff. We're reducing it to about thirty percent of
30:31
Speaker 19: what you were getting. You know, people screen blue murder
30:34
Speaker 19: about that because they don't understand the way the system works.
30:37
Speaker 19: But even the labor government that was pushing ahead with
30:39
Speaker 19: this renewables policy knew that the uptake of rooftop solar
30:44
Speaker 19: was happening so quickly that it was about to cause
30:46
Speaker 19: a blackout. And there are reports that show this as well,
30:50
Speaker 19: so you know, there were those issues all along the way.
30:53
Speaker 19: We've also got three massive solar farms that were built
30:56
Speaker 19: during the last few years. They actually sat there eyed
30:59
Speaker 19: or for several years because they were unable to import
31:03
Speaker 19: power into the grid because if they had have done so,
31:06
Speaker 19: the Power and Water Corporation knew that that would trip
31:09
Speaker 19: the electricity system and cause blackouts as well. So, I mean,
31:13
Speaker 19: it's just been a total disaster from start to finish.
31:16
Speaker 19: And I'd say that most people who know anything about
31:18
Speaker 19: electricity generation are very happy today that this policy's finally
31:22
Speaker 19: been put out of its misery.
31:25
Speaker 2: And good on the NTA, Matt, because this is the
31:28
Speaker 2: test case example for what the rest of the country
31:32
Speaker 2: will look like if we all sign on to Chris
31:34
Speaker 2: Bowen being the minister again after the election, which shall
31:37
Speaker 2: we now anticipate will be called in the morning.
31:39
Speaker 5: Thanks for joining me.
31:40
Speaker 2: Right, latest polling we've got a Victoria now it's revealed
31:42
Speaker 2: the odds are stacked in the liberals favor in the
31:45
Speaker 2: fights to recapture two till seats.
31:48
Speaker 5: Held in Victoria.
31:49
Speaker 2: A poll of almost eight hundred people by JWS Research
31:52
Speaker 2: very credible, firm. So the Monique Ryan is hanging on
31:56
Speaker 2: but only just by a fingernails in Couyong on two
31:59
Speaker 2: party preferred, while a similar sample size in the Bayside
32:02
Speaker 2: seat of Goldstein sos that Zoe Daniel is significantly behind
32:07
Speaker 2: her Liberal rival Tim Wilson, who as we know formally
32:10
Speaker 2: held that seat until the last election. To have been
32:12
Speaker 2: now to break it all down format Victoria and Little
32:15
Speaker 2: Party President sky News, I'm going to say host.
32:18
Speaker 5: But he could get there.
32:18
Speaker 2: Could There is a consultant at the moment, Michael Kroger, Hey,
32:21
Speaker 2: you can read a pole better than anyone. This is
32:24
Speaker 2: pretty crook for the Teals in Victoria. As I said, JW.
32:27
Speaker 5: Wes very reputable. Let's start, let's have a look at Goldstein.
32:32
Speaker 1: So I think that in both those seats the Teal
32:36
Speaker 1: vote's been on the slide for a year. They were
32:38
Speaker 1: strong twelve to twine hours ago. It's been on the
32:40
Speaker 1: slide ever since. What are the factors in that, Peter?
32:42
Speaker 1: First of all, I think they've worked out that both
32:44
Speaker 1: Tim Wilson and Amlia Hamer are going to be cabinet ministers.
32:48
Speaker 1: They contrast that to the two Teals who are permanent backbenches.
32:52
Speaker 1: Let's be frank, you know that's better than me. They've
32:54
Speaker 1: had no influence in Canberra. No one takes the slightest
32:56
Speaker 1: bit of notice of them in Canberra. Right, They're just
32:59
Speaker 1: more an irritant to the Albanzey government. So they're swapping
33:02
Speaker 1: two cabinet ministers potentially for two lifelong backbenches. They know
33:07
Speaker 1: now that they've voted seventy percent more of the time
33:10
Speaker 1: with the Greens, and disastrously for both of them, they
33:14
Speaker 1: unveil their profound ignorance of foreign policy by both signing
33:17
Speaker 1: that letter to restore funding to UNRA, which was budget
33:22
Speaker 1: and particularly disastrous in Gold scene. To answer your question,
33:26
Speaker 1: where there's a large Jewish population who are utterly appalled,
33:29
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a single Jewish vote for Zoey
33:34
Speaker 1: Daniel now in Gold Scene. Tim Wilson, on the other hand,
33:36
Speaker 1: has been an incredibly strong, lifelong supporter of the State
33:39
Speaker 1: of Israel and the Jewish community.
33:41
Speaker 12: That's why I explain, explain that difference.
33:43
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're in deep trouble in both and there
33:46
Speaker 1: was a.
33:46
Speaker 2: Heavy Scott We can't we can't hide from this. There
33:49
Speaker 2: was a heavy Scott Morrison vote in both anti Scott
33:53
Speaker 2: Morrison vote in those seats last time too.
33:55
Speaker 12: Look the wise, there are.
33:56
Speaker 1: Three I was in Higgins, I stood on outside of
33:58
Speaker 1: supermarket for at six or eight weeks and similar views,
34:02
Speaker 1: similar seat to Goldstein and Kes in the middle of them.
34:05
Speaker 1: Three factors didn't like Morrison. As you said, they wanted
34:08
Speaker 1: an integrity commission. Well, neither of those two issues are
34:11
Speaker 1: relevant this time.
34:12
Speaker 12: They wanted global.
34:13
Speaker 1: Warming policies much less important than it was now recent
34:16
Speaker 1: Polis showing seven percent only if people.
34:18
Speaker 12: Have that as the main priority. The priorities now we
34:21
Speaker 12: know what they.
34:21
Speaker 1: Are, state and federal, And this is where Ryan and
34:24
Speaker 1: Zoey Daniel I've got no influence. And Wilson and Hamer,
34:30
Speaker 1: who are going to be very significant figures, got a
34:32
Speaker 1: lot of influence in the Liberal party in Victoria. We
34:34
Speaker 1: know Brad Batten's probably favorite to win the election here,
34:37
Speaker 1: so the big issues of interest to people in Victoria,
34:40
Speaker 1: they're going to have an influence over that where they
34:42
Speaker 1: know the tales have got none, no relevance, signivance at all.
34:45
Speaker 5: People, Let's go them in there.
34:46
Speaker 2: Ryan in particular right the seat of ko Young because
34:48
Speaker 2: you know she was the big slayer of the treasurer
34:51
Speaker 2: at the time at the last election. As I drove
34:54
Speaker 2: through the seat, I've got founding members who leaved there.
34:57
Speaker 2: You know, it was a sea of green. There were
34:58
Speaker 2: lots of for Ryan, but it was an unknown quantity.
35:03
Speaker 2: You know, they thought they were buying this professional woman
35:06
Speaker 2: who was basically forced by her great integrity to run
35:10
Speaker 2: for office.
35:11
Speaker 5: Well they've had a good look at it now.
35:13
Speaker 2: We know that she wants to remind them that she's
35:16
Speaker 2: a doctor and her behavior and particularly that of her husband.
35:20
Speaker 2: This week has not been about integrity. We've actually got
35:24
Speaker 2: a clip of how she's instructing her volunteers have a listen.
35:28
Speaker 16: It's really really important to use the term doctor Manique Ryan.
35:32
Speaker 12: We want people to know that she's a doctor.
35:37
Speaker 5: That's a bit you know, I'm better than you, isn't it?
35:40
Speaker 1: Isn't this true of the of the teals. They're superior
35:43
Speaker 1: to ordinary people. They have this, they have this superiority
35:47
Speaker 1: complex about themselves. They're very very important people. I mean, look,
35:51
Speaker 1: let's be frank about Monnick Ryan. She is the first
35:54
Speaker 1: candidate in a long time sitting member to go into hiding.
35:58
Speaker 1: She's actually now in hiding. And where is her husband?
36:01
Speaker 1: Where is the affidavit he needs to produce? And it
36:04
Speaker 1: might sound a small issue, but in terms of them,
36:07
Speaker 1: you know, this was dirty politics by her husband. Where
36:10
Speaker 1: is his affidavit to say this was the only sign
36:13
Speaker 1: he took down? But you can't be on Oh oh
36:17
Speaker 1: really you think he might have been responsible?
36:19
Speaker 5: You know how it works?
36:20
Speaker 12: Well, so if this fellow meniqu Ryan's.
36:22
Speaker 1: Been caught, Yeah, so okay, if that's the case, then
36:25
Speaker 1: he's taken down. Who knows how many signs, and we
36:28
Speaker 1: know Amia Hale Haym has lost more than a hundred signs.
36:30
Speaker 12: Okay, so this bloke won't sign.
36:33
Speaker 1: An affidavit saying was the only one I took down
36:36
Speaker 1: leads you to conclude he's taken down a lot of
36:38
Speaker 1: these signs. Maybe he hasn't, but can we see the proof.
36:41
Speaker 1: So he's gone into hiding. She's gone into hiding. He
36:44
Speaker 1: won't tell us whether he's in Monique Ryan's behind hill list.
36:46
Speaker 1: And by the way, if he took down more than
36:48
Speaker 1: one sign, what you're saying she didn't know about it.
36:50
Speaker 1: He was just out there glibly on a Saturday afternoon
36:52
Speaker 1: removing signs. It will if he's done more than one.
36:56
Speaker 1: He's got to come clean. Monique Ryan has to come clean.
36:58
Speaker 1: If you've been involved in this dirty campaign against Emily Hamer,
37:02
Speaker 1: she needs to say so.
37:03
Speaker 2: Peter, I suspect there's plenty of people ringing up Hamer's
37:06
Speaker 2: office offering now to put signs up.
37:08
Speaker 1: I think she's run out from what I was told before.
37:11
Speaker 1: There's so many people want to put her signs up.
37:14
Speaker 1: But let's say how long they last.
37:16
Speaker 5: We will watch this all very closely.
37:18
Speaker 12: Thank you, Mike, Thanks Peter.
37:19
Speaker 2: All right, after break the truth about bracket creeper White
37:21
Speaker 2: and negates all of Labour's seventy cents a day tax cut,
37:25
Speaker 2: plus a bit later on, we're way into just how
37:27
Speaker 2: damaging those text leaks are for the Trump administration.
37:36
Speaker 5: Welcome back.
37:36
Speaker 2: More around in Washington about that leak on the signal app.
37:41
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a moment with my international panel,
37:43
Speaker 2: but a lot of local issues. I want to get
37:45
Speaker 2: to that with my news panel. Llenp Senator James McGrath
37:48
Speaker 2: joins me and the chief executive at the Page Institute,
37:53
Speaker 2: Gerald Holland. Gents, Welcome James. I'll start with you analysis
37:57
Speaker 2: today in relation to the Labour tax cut. Right, the
38:01
Speaker 2: seventy cents a day which people will not see until
38:04
Speaker 2: next year, in any event, says the Parliamentary Budget offers,
38:10
Speaker 2: it's all obliterated in a couple of years because of
38:13
Speaker 2: bracket creep. There's nothing that the government's done this week
38:16
Speaker 2: that addresses bracket creep, is there.
38:21
Speaker 11: The Government's done absolutely nothing about bracket creep this week
38:24
Speaker 11: and they're not going to do it in the future.
38:28
Speaker 11: When we think about the headline out of the budget
38:31
Speaker 11: it was seventy cents a day in fifteen months time.
38:37
Speaker 11: But if you're earning up to one hundred thousand dollars
38:39
Speaker 11: a year because of bracket creep, you're going to lose
38:41
Speaker 11: an additional eight hundred dollars a year to the tax man.
38:46
Speaker 11: This budget is all about the next five weeks. It's
38:50
Speaker 11: nothing about the next five years or the next ten years.
38:53
Speaker 11: It is a political budget, it is not a long
38:56
Speaker 11: term budget.
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Speaker 2: And I know you work closely with the National Party
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Speaker 2: and have got a deep understanding of those regional and
39:05
Speaker 2: periurban outer suburban seats.
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Speaker 5: One of the.
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Speaker 2: Things that really hurts them is the cost of fuel
39:11
Speaker 2: and the time they spend in their cars commuting. In
39:14
Speaker 2: particular in regional Australia, these are the battleground seats this
39:18
Speaker 2: time around. There are not always, but in this election
39:21
Speaker 2: they will be absolutely material to the final results. So
39:24
Speaker 2: if you're looking at seventy cents a day or fifteen
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Speaker 2: hundred dollars a year off your fuel per car, where
39:31
Speaker 2: do you think people are going to line up.
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Speaker 16: It's going to make a huge difference. And personally, I'd
39:37
Speaker 16: love to see it extended indefinitely.
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Speaker 12: I mean, we have a.
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Speaker 16: Regionally integrated economy. Everything that we grow, everything we dig
39:43
Speaker 16: out of the ground, everything that we package, that we transport,
39:46
Speaker 16: that we manufacture, that we refrigerate, that gets to the
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Speaker 16: end consumer it comes from the regions, if it comes
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Speaker 16: from Australia, and so all of that is dependent on
39:54
Speaker 16: fuel and of course all of that is dependent on
39:56
Speaker 16: electricity and energy. So any relief on the fuel side,
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Speaker 16: beat on the energy side is going to be really
40:03
Speaker 16: welcome to regional Australia. And that's the kind of activity
40:06
Speaker 16: that we need to get our productivity and get our
40:08
Speaker 16: growth engine.
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Speaker 2: Hanging on them again, James, I was looking at a
40:13
Speaker 2: lot of the coverage today and the Prime Minister's out
40:15
Speaker 2: there very clearly saying, you know, don't worry tradees, don't
40:18
Speaker 2: worry blue collar workers.
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Speaker 5: Come the campaign. I've got more sweetness for you. Now.
40:23
Speaker 2: That says to me that he's acknowledging they've got a
40:26
Speaker 2: real problem in their heartland.
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Speaker 11: They've got a massive problem in their heartland. When labor
40:33
Speaker 11: MPs are moving back into their electorates to live, when
40:36
Speaker 11: labor MPs are actually outdoor knocking, it's because there is
40:40
Speaker 11: a problem in their heartland. And it's when The men
40:42
Speaker 11: and women of Australia who drive the utes at five
40:45
Speaker 11: point thirty five o'clock in the morning to work are
40:47
Speaker 11: angry because of the ute tax. People are angry because
40:50
Speaker 11: of the family car tax. People are angry because of
40:52
Speaker 11: their power bills. But the thing is, if he's got
40:56
Speaker 11: sweeties for the next couple of weeks, why hasn't he
40:59
Speaker 11: done more city He's become Prime minister because he's been
41:02
Speaker 11: obsessed about the voice and all this wokery and all
41:05
Speaker 11: this sort of nonsense. He hasn't focused on cost of living.
41:08
Speaker 11: He only knows cost of living is an issue because
41:11
Speaker 11: a focus group told him so.
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Speaker 12: And people need to remember.
41:15
Speaker 11: Labor is all about the next five weeks, Peter Dutton,
41:18
Speaker 11: tonight is all about the next five years, the next
41:21
Speaker 11: fifty years, to make sure we've got a strong country
41:23
Speaker 11: and we get back on track.
41:27
Speaker 2: I want to remind you as tonight and I'll remind
41:28
Speaker 2: you all the way through the campaign. The Prime Minister
41:31
Speaker 2: has not paid a grocery bill for three years. He
41:34
Speaker 2: probably hasn't paid a power bill for a decade, and
41:37
Speaker 2: not even his deodorant comes out of his own pocket.
41:41
Speaker 2: His bread, his milk, everything else comes out of your
41:43
Speaker 2: pocket when he's living in the lodge in Kiribilly House.
41:46
Speaker 2: So listen to that in the back of your mind
41:48
Speaker 2: when he talks about cost of living. Hey, this big
41:51
Speaker 2: issue now for the norths Web Shelf Jared. It's been
41:55
Speaker 2: put off. The government's delayed making a decision. It's been
41:59
Speaker 2: six years that they have sought an extension, extension in time,
42:05
Speaker 2: not extension in scope of this major LNG project.
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Speaker 5: This is well.
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Speaker 2: Very disappointing. I mean I can't frame it any other way.
42:16
Speaker 2: It was dropped to on budget night. Now I think
42:18
Speaker 2: this is going to be a real issue during the campaign.
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Speaker 16: So I think Tanya Plibosek is playing a really dangerous
42:26
Speaker 16: game with this one. Of course, this gas plan is
42:29
Speaker 16: crucial for all of WA's LNG. It's the oldest gas
42:34
Speaker 16: plant in Wa and attached to this is another thirty
42:37
Speaker 16: billion dollars of investment in looking at other sites to
42:39
Speaker 16: keep making sure that the gas is flowing, which is
42:41
Speaker 16: used both domestically and exported. It's a no brainer to
42:45
Speaker 16: have this project approved and the labor Wa government is
42:48
Speaker 16: desperate for it to get approved. But Tanya's worried about
42:50
Speaker 16: her own electorate and she's worried about how this will
42:52
Speaker 16: look to Green voters, how this will look to the
42:54
Speaker 16: other independents that are nipping at her heels, and so
42:56
Speaker 16: she's kicked it into the long grass.
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Speaker 12: To be resolved after the election.
42:59
Speaker 16: Well, if we have a minority labor government with Greens
43:02
Speaker 16: or Teals at the seats, or even a minority coalition
43:04
Speaker 16: government with those same figures holding the bunch of power
43:07
Speaker 16: either in the lower house of the Senate, it may
43:09
Speaker 16: not get approved. And this could cost hundreds of billions
43:11
Speaker 16: of dollars in investment, jobs, in tax revenue, and it
43:15
Speaker 16: sends a cleice things for investors all around the world
43:17
Speaker 16: that Australia is no longer open for business.
43:21
Speaker 5: James, Just a quick one.
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Speaker 2: World Athletics today have announced that they've approved the introduction
43:27
Speaker 2: of a cheek swab test. This is to determine the
43:30
Speaker 2: biological makeup of any athlete, so that they need to
43:34
Speaker 2: prove their female before they get to compete with females.
43:38
Speaker 2: Please tell me this is something the coalitions gather back
43:42
Speaker 2: in over the election campaign.
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Speaker 12: We will back this in.
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Speaker 11: It will back it in because it's the young girls
43:51
Speaker 11: who are playing sport from Australia today. That's who side
43:54
Speaker 11: we should be on. Those girls are going to become
43:56
Speaker 11: the athletes at the Brisbane Olympics, sorry, the Queens and
44:00
Speaker 11: Olympics in twenty thirty two. We want to make sure
44:03
Speaker 11: that female athletes are competing against other female athletes.
44:08
Speaker 12: So yes, we'll be backing this.
44:09
Speaker 2: In Ala youlujah. James McGrath, I wish you all the
44:14
Speaker 2: US for the campaign. Thanks for joining us tonight, Jared
44:17
Speaker 2: as well. All right, after the break heads rolling apparently
44:20
Speaker 2: after those damaging texts coming out in relation to military strategy,
44:25
Speaker 2: we'll get some Washington updates in a moment. Plus, in
44:27
Speaker 2: light of everything we know, why on earth is Anthony
44:31
Speaker 2: Albanezi extending funding for UNRA. Welcome back, Let's bring in
44:40
Speaker 2: my panel the want to Post Your GUARDA joining me
44:42
Speaker 2: now in former Labor MP Michael Danby. Let's talk kosher
44:47
Speaker 2: about this ongoing bleeding sore, about the Signal messaging app
44:54
Speaker 2: and what went on the app and how a journalist
44:56
Speaker 2: was involved and where it's all headed.
45:00
Speaker 14: Finest hour and what's been I would say two months
45:02
Speaker 14: of a pretty flawless presidency to date, hiccup was going
45:05
Speaker 14: to come and this one has come.
45:06
Speaker 5: There's a couple of things.
45:07
Speaker 14: So one is the good news I would start with
45:09
Speaker 14: is it could have been worse in terms of the
45:11
Speaker 14: success of the attack happened, nothing was leaked ahead of
45:14
Speaker 14: time to adversaries. It was a more nefarious actor in
45:17
Speaker 14: there than just a journalist, unfriendly.
45:18
Speaker 5: Though he may be.
45:20
Speaker 14: The bad news, obviously is how did this happen? And
45:22
Speaker 14: what's interesting is we know that the admin of it
45:24
Speaker 14: was Mike Walls, national security advisor. He went on Laura
45:27
Speaker 14: Ingram just a few hours ago and categorically denied that
45:30
Speaker 14: he's even met this journalist, did not add him, a stafford,
45:33
Speaker 14: did not add him, and him going and doing that
45:35
Speaker 14: has ballooned the store even more because either that's not true,
45:39
Speaker 14: or there's some kind of compromise that's happened in the.
45:41
Speaker 2: Time and there's some sort of backdoor in the app
45:43
Speaker 2: to enable someone who was not meant to be on
45:45
Speaker 2: mayor he was not by side put on mayor.
45:48
Speaker 14: Yes to turn up and all texts do you have
45:50
Speaker 14: back doors, even super encrypted ones like this, So they
45:53
Speaker 14: should appoint somebody to do a proper, serious investigation, stop
45:56
Speaker 14: talking to the media until they actually have answers. That
45:58
Speaker 14: would be my advice to them, because this doesn't help
46:00
Speaker 14: President Trump, and he was involved in it anyway.
46:02
Speaker 2: Just I know I've often wondered this, why don't the
46:05
Speaker 2: US military, why don't the Australian military create their own
46:09
Speaker 2: app service that they can use with a bit more confidence,
46:12
Speaker 2: because a lot of these apps are tethered back to
46:15
Speaker 2: people who hate the right side of politics in the
46:17
Speaker 2: Silicon Valley or China or worse.
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Speaker 13: Peter that all the White House principles have their own
46:23
Speaker 13: encrypted telephone.
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Speaker 2: Here, they've got encrypted fines and encrypted computers. But that's
46:31
Speaker 2: a different system. I think a messaging app, a comms app.
46:34
Speaker 14: The instantaneous aspect of it is what those things sort
46:37
Speaker 14: of miss. So maybe they do their own thing, maybe
46:39
Speaker 14: their own trust factions of their own government. Not to
46:42
Speaker 14: get to conspiratorial any here, but given what's happened to
46:44
Speaker 14: this administration before, who knows what's going on?
46:47
Speaker 2: John for Eylin, Hey, how shocked were you to see
46:50
Speaker 2: in black and white in the federal budget on Tuesday
46:52
Speaker 2: night that the government is now rolling out more funding
46:55
Speaker 2: and consistent funding to Unrah give it everything.
46:59
Speaker 13: We Knowustralians taxpayers resent foreign aid being given to organizations
47:04
Speaker 13: that have proved to be involved in terrorism, that have
47:08
Speaker 13: educated poor Palestinians to be fanatical over the last fifty years,
47:13
Speaker 13: and have not resettled any people. So it's like, I
47:17
Speaker 13: just think it's a terrible decision. All other Western countries
47:20
Speaker 13: are going the other way. And it's again a reason
47:23
Speaker 13: why it's a socialist left government outside the labor mainstream
47:28
Speaker 13: on this issue, and Penny Wong should be.
47:30
Speaker 12: Condemned for it.
47:31
Speaker 2: And it's twenty million dollars when you consider that we've
47:33
Speaker 2: taken three thousand of these people, way more in per
47:37
Speaker 2: capita terms than any other country in the world, way
47:39
Speaker 2: more than the Arab neighbors. They will cost us money.
47:43
Speaker 2: Many of them are already applying to stay here permanently.
47:46
Speaker 2: We know they're accessing payments and housing and mediccare. I reckon,
47:52
Speaker 2: we're up for more than twenty million already.
47:54
Speaker 13: Well, Australian is going to have to make a judgment
47:56
Speaker 13: on that kind of thing. And I don't think Penny
47:58
Speaker 13: Wong's foreign policy or this huge number of guards and
48:01
Speaker 13: refugees outside the ability to check them is something that
48:05
Speaker 13: most Australians will welcome.
48:06
Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi has invited President Trump for an official visit
48:10
Speaker 2: to Australia.
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Speaker 5: Do you think they got filed in the bin?
48:13
Speaker 14: He didn't come in the first term, and it is
48:14
Speaker 14: an awfully long way away. But if they're hosting something
48:17
Speaker 14: like the Quad with other countries that are relevance to
48:20
Speaker 14: the end of Pacific strategy the Trump is looking at,
48:22
Speaker 14: maybe Maybee might see something that if there's a broader agend.
48:25
Speaker 13: Has he ever been to Australia coach.
48:27
Speaker 14: He might have as a private citizen, but not as president.
48:29
Speaker 5: He did not come in the first Tell them we've
48:30
Speaker 5: got good golf courses.
48:31
Speaker 2: We'll see and just quickly Russian cease fire. Trump's saying
48:35
Speaker 2: he doesn't think they're abiding by the terms.
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Speaker 13: Well, it's the first sign if you said that, that
48:40
Speaker 13: he's putting pressure on the Russians that the Ukrainians have
48:43
Speaker 13: basically created a freedom of movement in the Black Sea
48:46
Speaker 13: because they've destroyed the Russian Navy. They can't go east
48:49
Speaker 13: of Cromea or west of Crimea because of the super
48:52
Speaker 13: use of drones. I wish the Australian Navy and the
48:55
Speaker 13: Australian Air Force would wake up to these modern technologies
48:58
Speaker 13: that the Ukrainians have invented.
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Speaker 5: We will talk about a lot of this stuff in
49:01
Speaker 5: the campaign.
49:02
Speaker 2: I think this will be an election where foreign policy
49:04
Speaker 2: will matter just quickly Greenland.
49:06
Speaker 5: Is he going to get Greinland?
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Speaker 14: It looks like things that are hitting up.
49:09
Speaker 5: They had their election. People that were favorable to.
49:11
Speaker 14: Independence, not necessarily necessarily enjoining with America, but just being
49:15
Speaker 14: independent seem to have won or gained political fever. So
49:17
Speaker 14: that is step one on the path of some sort
49:19
Speaker 14: of relationship, direct relationship, whatever that may look like.
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Speaker 2: Right, I'll over it there. Thanks both of you. People
49:25
Speaker 2: hating campaigns, anything that's uncertain. I think Trump throws a
49:28
Speaker 2: constant uncertainty into a federal campaign. All right, we'll be
49:31
Speaker 2: back at it Monday. We'll be in your campaign proper.
49:33
Speaker 2: Look forward to your company up therex though and your
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Speaker 2: Bolt