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10-29: The 2 Dan Sullivans Scandal! Will Voters See Through Alaska Senate Race Hijinks? · Wicked Radio with Bill Adams

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  Speaker 1: You could always tell how high the stakes are in
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  Speaker 1: any given election on how big the scandal is and
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  Speaker 1: how much media attention it gets right before the election's
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  Speaker 1: about to happen. Right on schedule, right on cue before
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  Speaker 1: the midterms, we've got our big allegation of a scandal
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  Speaker 1: happening here.
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean to laugh. I'll give you a little
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  Speaker 2: caveat here in a second.
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  Speaker 1: This one's coming from all places, Alaska. If you don't
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  Speaker 1: know the details on this one, it is unbelievable. how
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  Speaker 1: obvious the cheating scandal was in this. And I don't mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is my little disclaimer, my little caveat. I'm chuckling
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  Speaker 1: at this and I'm laughing at it, not because, please understand,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not taking this lightly. You know, our confidence in
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  Speaker 1: our election system, our electoral system and our elections took
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  Speaker 1: another big hit yesterday with this story.
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean to take it lightly.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just laughing at how unbelievably over-the-top ridiculous this scam is.
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  Speaker 1: It's out of Alaska and what they're calling it, I
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  Speaker 1: hope this becomes like a catchphrase. It's being called the
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  Speaker 1: two Dan Sullivan scam. Or maybe we can call it
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  Speaker 1: the scam Sullivan scandal.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I hope this becomes one of those stories that actually
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  Speaker 1: becomes like a catchphrase, like something that people remember in history.
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  Speaker 2: For what?
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  Speaker 1: For the greater purpose being so we can stop this
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing, right? And the problem goes back to
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  Speaker 1: Alaska has that stupid ranked... choice system even in their
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  Speaker 1: big elections like for this senate race that's going on
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  Speaker 1: out there that is the focus of this controversy in
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  Speaker 1: other words you don't just vote for this guy or
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  Speaker 1: this woman or this guy or this woman it's like
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  Speaker 1: a rank choice and you win a percentage of the
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  Speaker 1: thing is a bunch of candidates on the list that's
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  Speaker 1: that's the genesis of the problem but the core laughing
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  Speaker 1: again because it's just so over the top obviously scandalous
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  Speaker 1: the story is in this ranked choice senate This is
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  Speaker 1: why it's so important. It's only a hundred of those seats.
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  Speaker 1: And this is so every state Senate race is a
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  Speaker 1: big one. They tried in this case, being the Democrats,
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  Speaker 1: they tried to run a guy named Dan Sullivan to
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  Speaker 1: confuse the voters against the incumbent Senator. It was a
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  Speaker 1: Republican named Dan Sullivan. That's the two Dan Sullivan scam.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get it to my God. There is
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  Speaker 1: as hideous as this is.
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  Speaker 2: It is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: And it's over the top as this is where you
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  Speaker 1: just have to laugh.
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  Speaker 2: You'll go crazy.
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  Speaker 1: There is a great takeaway on this. The first one
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  Speaker 1: might finally be everybody in the entire country looking at
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  Speaker 1: this ranked choice system going, you can't do that. This
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  Speaker 1: thing is so open to fraud, you can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: But the second thing is, this is the biggest point
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  Speaker 1: of all, is that it's harder than ever to get
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  Speaker 1: away with this kind of stuff. It's very hard to
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  Speaker 1: cheat in this particular fashion. They'll always find a different
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  Speaker 1: kind of way. And maybe we still can't believe in
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  Speaker 1: voting machines. Maybe you don't trust the voting machines. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you don't trust the mail-in ballots. But things like this
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  Speaker 1: and these old-timey political scams we've had since the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of time in this country, they're tougher to get away with.
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  Speaker 1: And if anything, that's the great news. Of all places
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  Speaker 1: last night, that point was made on CNN last night.
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  Speaker 1: And the wildest thing of all is, you know who
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  Speaker 1: broke this entire story that hurts the Democrats and is,
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  Speaker 1: by their own admission, has them scrambling for this Senate race?
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  Speaker 1: You know who broke the story with inside sources? The
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  Speaker 1: New York Times, and they're right up on this. This
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  Speaker 1: is the part that gets me laughing. They're right up
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  Speaker 1: on this in their own words, in their article. It
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  Speaker 1: is hilarious how diabolical this was. Anyway, we'll get into it.
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  Speaker 1: The scam Sullivan story. Thanks for being here. It's Wicked Radio,
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry. But I didn't expect this one coming. Some
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  Speaker 2: kind of a scandal, but not this one. Wicked Radio
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  Speaker 1: We've got to work backwards on this. This is how
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  Speaker 1: I first heard about this story. I'm not exactly up
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  Speaker 1: on the Alaska Senate race. Maybe you're not either, but
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  Speaker 1: this does affect all of us. Like I said, it's
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  Speaker 1: the Senate. So first I heard about it was President
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  Speaker 1: Trump up in arms talking about this at a rally.
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  Speaker 1: And then on the tarmac, he's going for criminal prosecutions.
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  Speaker 1: He thinks the race should be you know, wiped out.
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  Speaker 1: He thinks the Democrat running against this Dan Sullivan or
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  Speaker 1: two of them should be completely jailed and there should
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  Speaker 1: be prosecutions.
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  Speaker 2: Let's work backwards with the story.
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  Speaker 1: This is President Trump describing it and also his reaction
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  Speaker 1: on the tarmac just yet.
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  Speaker 3: They created a fake candidate. They took a candidate named
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  Speaker 3: Dan Sullivan. to run against another candidate who's a great
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  Speaker 3: senator named Dan Sullivan in order to cheat in the election.
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  Speaker 3: They said they didn't do it, and we caught them cold.
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  Speaker 3: And Mary Peltola should resign from the race. I think
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  Speaker 3: she should be prosecuted criminally for what she did. And
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  Speaker 3: I think that the people that participated with her should—
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  Speaker 3: swore in all statements that they knew nothing about it.
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  Speaker 3: This guy Dan Sullivan just ran against Dan Sullivan. It
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  Speaker 3: turned out it was a scheme by the Democrats. That's
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  Speaker 3: what they do better.
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  Speaker 1: And they went out to say, maybe rightly so. They
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  Speaker 1: can't win without cheating. They have no policy.
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  Speaker 2: They got to do this. They've been doing this forever. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: he wants criminal prosecutions. I don't know. If I was
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  Speaker 2: a betting man, and I am not, believe me, I
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  Speaker 2: think I would bet against that one. Who the hell knows?
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  Speaker 1: Now, Todd Blanch, the Attorney General, says you're going to
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  Speaker 1: hear a lot more about this Okay, we're also days
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  Speaker 1: away from this midterm election for all of these states,
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  Speaker 1: including that one with the two Dan Sullivans in Alaska.
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  Speaker 2: So is anything going to happen in time? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But he mentioned it here, that the New York Times
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  Speaker 1: came out with the story. Now, I'm going to, this
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  Speaker 1: is the part I can't stop because the Fox News
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  Speaker 1: reporter had the best summary of the New York Times article.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to read a New York Times article
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  Speaker 1: for you on a live stream. I wouldn't do that
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  Speaker 1: to you. But this guy's description of it. was the
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  Speaker 1: absolute best because.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a, it's like he's reading off a comic strip.
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  Speaker 1: This is so unbelievably over the top, but he does
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  Speaker 1: a great description of exactly what the allegations are.
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  Speaker 2: Now keep something in mind.
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  Speaker 1: New York times is hinting that people inside the democratic party, like,
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  Speaker 1: like high up, way high up and inside this Alaska
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  Speaker 1: Senate race campaign for this Mary Peltola. She's the Democrat
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  Speaker 1: running against the incumbent, the real, the real Dan Sullivan
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  Speaker 1: with a real Dan Sullivan, please stand up. Uh, They
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  Speaker 1: think they have somebody within that race, within that party saying,
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  Speaker 1: a whistleblower saying, this is so bad, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be part of it. So they went to the
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  Speaker 1: New York Times to break the story, which was denied
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  Speaker 1: by their campaign at first, but now they have evidence apparently.
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  Speaker 1: So here's the description of what they found from the
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  Speaker 1: Fox News guys saying it with a straight face. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not taking it lightly. I'm just laughing at the
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  Speaker 1: hideousness of it. This is his description. We'll take it
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  Speaker 1: in pieces.
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  Speaker 4: Has learned from two sources familiar there is an aggressive
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  Speaker 4: criminal investigation into a ballot controversy in alaska multiple grand
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  Speaker 4: jury subpoenas are expected to be issued in the coming
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  Speaker 4: days that probe has been underway for several months but
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  Speaker 4: has intensified since today's explosive new york times report.
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  Speaker 1: Okay now he gets the new york times report i
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  Speaker 1: know i'll shut up here in a second and get
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  Speaker 1: right to it okay so it's been going on for
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  Speaker 1: months this much we know they couldn't get anything nothing
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  Speaker 1: happening but they were finally able to link The sources
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  Speaker 1: from inside, the insider whistleblower sources to what's going on here.
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  Speaker 1: Wait till you hear about how hard they worked to
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  Speaker 1: find a fake Dan Sullivan to put on this ballot.
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  Speaker 4: The Justice Department has declined to comment. The New York
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  Speaker 4: Times reports operatives aligned with Mary Peltola, the Democratic nominee
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  Speaker 4: for Senate, spent months recruiting candidates to peel votes from
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  Speaker 4: Republican incumbent Senator Dan Sullivan. It says in the summer
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  Speaker 4: of last year, a staffer for Peltola received instruction from
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  Speaker 4: top campaign aides to find as many people named Dan
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  Speaker 4: Sullivan in Alaska as possible.
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  Speaker 2: Again, I'll say it for like the 10th time. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not taking it lightly.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I mean, you have to laugh at how
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  Speaker 1: over the top, ridiculously crooked this is. A dictator from
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  Speaker 1: the top campaign officials to staffers to this is literally
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  Speaker 1: what they said, according to The New York Times. Your
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  Speaker 1: job today and this month is to go out throughout
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  Speaker 1: this state and you find as many Dan Sullivans as
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  Speaker 1: you possibly can to put on the ballot to run
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  Speaker 1: against the incumbent Dan Sullivan to confuse the voters. That's
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  Speaker 1: exactly what's happening here.
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  Speaker 2: He goes on. Dan S.
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  Speaker 4: Sullivan is the name of the state's incumbent GOP senator.
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  Speaker 4: And the Times says the Peltola campaign or its allies
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  Speaker 4: were trying to find and convince another Dan Sullivan to run.
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  Speaker 2: And they did.
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  Speaker 4: So confusion could cost the senator critical votes, especially in
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  Speaker 4: the state's top four primary and ranked choice voting system.
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  Speaker 2: The plan worked.
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  Speaker 4: Dan J. Sullivan announced his run for the Senate. In June,
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  Speaker 4: the Alaska Supreme Court ruled there was no basis for
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  Speaker 4: removing the other Sullivan in either state law or the U.S.
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  Speaker 5: So it worked.
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  Speaker 2: They found a rando. I guess he just said they're
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  Speaker 2: Dan J. Sullivan. It was a total rando guy.
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  Speaker 1: So the dictative was to the staffers in this campaign,
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  Speaker 1: you go out there and you find as many Dan
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  Speaker 1: Sullivans as you possibly can. You cast a wide net
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  Speaker 1: and you find one of them. to run against this
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  Speaker 1: real Dan Sullivan, who's the incumbent senator, the Republican senator here,
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  Speaker 1: and will confuse the voters. Again, going back to, here's
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  Speaker 1: the crux of the entire problem, this stupid ranked choice
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  Speaker 1: voting system they have there. That needs to go away,
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  Speaker 1: and this may be the thing that actually gets rid
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  Speaker 1: of that.
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  Speaker 2: But, like I said, the.
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  Speaker 1: Most important takeaway, and even though this is hideous, and
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  Speaker 1: there's always some kind of a scandal before the midterms
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  Speaker 1: or a general election, there's always something. The best point
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  Speaker 1: of all, and maybe the lightest point of all, came
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  Speaker 1: from CNN last night in their panel.
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  Speaker 2: Now, this was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: The first interesting part is the New York Times breaking
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  Speaker 1: this story right before the midterms and describing it detail
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  Speaker 1: for detail from a whistleblower that they were under orders
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  Speaker 1: to find a Dan Sullivan to confuse the voters this
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  Speaker 1: is the best point of all from one of their
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  Speaker 1: political analysts last night and this is what should actually
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  Speaker 1: make you feel a little bit better about this there's
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  Speaker 1: always going to be cheating we know that uh i
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  Speaker 1: think we also know that our faith in our elections
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  Speaker 1: just took another hit but it's harder to cheat in
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  Speaker 1: this particular way these days because we all have information
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  Speaker 1: now this is the point he made and i think
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  Speaker 1: he's right this.
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  Speaker 6: Is something that is sending Democrats scrambling, no doubt. Yeah, listen,
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  Speaker 6: two things you said are very important. It's not illegal
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  Speaker 6: and it's not new. But what is new is that
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  Speaker 6: nowadays that you really can't get away with doing these things.
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  Speaker 6: There's always going to be some kind of trail, you know,
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  Speaker 6: and in this case, these are text messages. And then,
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  Speaker 6: of course, probably led to live interviews by The New
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  Speaker 6: York Times. A couple of things. One is I want
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  Speaker 6: to find out who in Washington's actually was involved, because
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  Speaker 6: I think at that level you can discern how involved
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  Speaker 6: the National Party was.
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  Speaker 2: That's big, too.
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  Speaker 1: OK, now you have the CNN political analyst actually saying
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  Speaker 1: there this is something they hate saying. They hate above
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  Speaker 1: all things, even more than they hate Trump. They hate
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  Speaker 1: tying the National Democrat Party to local elections. And when
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  Speaker 1: there's a scandal going on and that guy, their guy,
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  Speaker 1: their employee, political analyst said it right there. I want
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  Speaker 1: to know how far up to the top this actually goes.
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  Speaker 1: It's a Senate race, guys. There's 100 senators. There's only
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  Speaker 1: 100 seats. Every single one of them, even in Alaska,
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  Speaker 1: low population Alaska, is really.
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  Speaker 2: Really important.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, this got the green light from the hires up,
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  Speaker 1: who then got the dictator down to this Senate race.
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  Speaker 1: And then the Peltola campaign said to the staffers, you
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  Speaker 1: find us a Dan Sullivan. You find as many Dan
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  Speaker 1: Sullivans in this state as you can.
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  Speaker 2: You find one rando to run against the real Dan Sullivan.
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  Speaker 2: So it's there. So it's real. This is a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Is it going to matter in that race? I have
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  Speaker 2: no idea. Is it going to lead to the criminal
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  Speaker 2: prosecutions and all this other stuff? I who know? I
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  Speaker 2: really doubt it. I don't know who the heck knows.
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  Speaker 1: But the takeaway is it's going to be way harder
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  Speaker 1: to pull scams like this going forward. It's too easy
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  Speaker 1: for all of us to get information now, even if
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  Speaker 1: it is in a faraway state like Alaska.
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  Speaker 2: Or, well, let's hear from her.
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  Speaker 1: How about the candidate involved in this? How about the opponent,
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  Speaker 1: this Mary Peltola? What does she have to say about
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  Speaker 1: this thing? How was her response? How polished is she
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  Speaker 1: of a politician?
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  Speaker 2: Not good. Not good. You listen to this and you
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  Speaker 2: tell me she doesn't sound like she knew exactly what
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  Speaker 2: was going on.
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  Speaker 7: This is just another distraction. It's another diversion. Every day
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  Speaker 7: it's some.
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  Speaker 2: New, you know, look over here moment.
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  Speaker 7: Not Dan Sullivan, registered Republican, incumbent, voted for this war
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  Speaker 7: in Iran 14 times.
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  Speaker 2: And then she distracts. Here she is saying this is
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  Speaker 2: just another distraction.
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  Speaker 1: Mary.
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  Speaker 2: Mary.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to point out that the distraction was
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  Speaker 1: the scam and you putting in a different Dan Sullivan
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  Speaker 1: against your opponent. That actually is a literal distraction. And then,
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  Speaker 1: of course, she goes into the Dan Sullivan, the Republican,
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  Speaker 1: and his policy and what he voted for.
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  Speaker 2: And he's Trump aligned. This is distraction. Not a good response.
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  Speaker 2: Not too trustworthy there. Again, will it matter? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: You know who we haven't heard from yet?
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  Speaker 1: The real Dan Sullivan. Will the real Dan Sullivan please
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  Speaker 1: stand up? Well, he's reacting now to exactly what we
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  Speaker 1: just saw and heard right there. Mary Peltola's reaction to
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  Speaker 1: the scam.
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  Speaker 2: What does he say? Well, he's outraged, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: And here's what the actual Dan Sullivan, not the fake guy,
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  Speaker 1: has to say about it.
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  Speaker 5: Even today, she has not apologized. Even today, she's kind
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  Speaker 5: of playing as if nothing happened. She and her team,
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  Speaker 5: and at the highest levels of the DSCC, spent over
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  Speaker 5: a year scheming in a secret operation to trick Alaskans
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  Speaker 5: to get them to throw away their votes. And it's remarkable.
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  Speaker 5: The Democrats will do anything to gain power.
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  Speaker 1: Well, even if you never believed that statement before, it's
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  Speaker 1: tough to deny it now.
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  Speaker 2: And he said it, too.
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  Speaker 1: Now, it's no surprise that the guy who actually could
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  Speaker 1: lose a race because of the scam that was run here,
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  Speaker 1: would say that this goes all the way to the top,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the people running the Democrat Party and their donors,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they would have to greenlight the thing. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a surprise for him to say that. I'll go
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  Speaker 1: back to this just a minute ago. You know what
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  Speaker 1: it is a surprise? CNN's political panel questioning how far
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  Speaker 1: to the top, the very, very, very top of the
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  Speaker 1: political power players in this country, how far this goes
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  Speaker 1: up and what else has been going on.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: It's always a scam.
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  Speaker 1: Literal within a week of one of these big elections
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  Speaker 1: there's always some sort of a scandal that comes out
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  Speaker 1: some of the allegations turn out to be nothing some
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: of them turn out to be really bad this one
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  Speaker 1: is just laughably obviously very bad and what they tried
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  Speaker 1: to do with the the the dan scandal the scam
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  Speaker 1: sullivan it's but again the takeaway on this is effects
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  Speaker 1: for this midterm i don't know i have no idea
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  Speaker 1: uh criminal prosecution do you see that happening It'd be
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  Speaker 1: nice to see, but I don't think so. Here's the
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  Speaker 1: takeaway for you, me, and regular people. This ranked vote,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of us weren't even aware of what this
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: ranked choice voting system is. Well, I want to vote
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  Speaker 1: A or B. No, no, no, you can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to decide in a percentage between A, B, C, D, E,
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  Speaker 1: and F. That's just stupid.
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  Speaker 2: That needs to go away.
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  Speaker 1: I think this story is actually so big now, it's
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  Speaker 1: going viral. I think most people in the country are
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  Speaker 1: aware of how stupid that system is now. So that's
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  Speaker 1: probably going to get public support to get rid of that.
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  Speaker 1: But also the takeaway that they said right there on
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  Speaker 1: CNN of all places last night on a story broken
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  Speaker 1: by the New York Times.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: It's going to be harder to get away with this
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff these days.
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: Why?
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Because we can get a hold of the information now,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: even in a faraway place, a faraway race like Alaska. Unbelievable.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Would the real Dan Sullivan please stand up? What a scam.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: May not matter. It may matter. I don't know.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: But it's going to be harder to get away with
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: this kind of stuff in the future. Because think about
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: it 10 years ago. Would we have even heard about
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: this kind of thing?
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Would whistleblowers be emboldened enough to go through back channels
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: and get out public media and to get this up?
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Probably not. And truth be told, this kind of scam
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: is probably happening all over the country. But it's harder
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: to get away with now, and that's probably the good
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: news on this. We'll see what happens with it.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: The two Dan Sullivans. Thanks for hanging out with me.
• 17:01
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• 17:03
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• 17:06
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• 17:10
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• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Minutes in real time, actually. Wicked Radio live stream Monday
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: through Friday, 8 a.m. Eastern time. 8 a.m.-ish. Okay. I
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: try to keep it to 8 a.m.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: And we're getting closer and closer to the weekend so
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: we can forget about this stuff.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: As you're hanging out with me, make it a wicked
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: awesome Thursday. I'll talk to you tomorrow.