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Thursday October 15 2026 | No Hasan Livestream, Jack Smith Targeted MAGA, =Holiday Preview · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 2: For Thursday, October 15th, the Eminem are Mike and Mark.
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  Speaker 2: And every once in a while, we like to talk
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  Speaker 2: about things that we think will happen, the prediction game,
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  Speaker 2: and it can be a dangerous game, but the batting
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  Speaker 2: average continues to go up for Nostradamus. It might be
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  Speaker 2: N and M Nostradamus and Mark, because some days ago
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  Speaker 2: before the, before the worm really started to turn, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Mike told me at our 7.35 a.m. Central Time radio segment,
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  Speaker 2: also something everybody should gather at 660amtheanswer.
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  Speaker 3: Com.
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  Speaker 2: He said, you know, this live stream thing, it's not
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  Speaker 2: going to happen. And I went, whoa. And I said,
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  Speaker 2: all right. It seemed like the mood was starting to shift.
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  Speaker 2: But you are at the tip of the spear. You
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  Speaker 2: are at the cusp. And today, just moments ago, it's
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  Speaker 2: phrased weird. It says Trump overrules the Pentagon. I think
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  Speaker 2: they all just came to an understanding.
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  Speaker 3: But you.
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  Speaker 2: I bow in your general direction. The live stream will
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  Speaker 2: not happen.
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  Speaker 3: Tommy, you have done it again. Well, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to appear gracious in your adulation, but I will point out,
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  Speaker 3: I love pulling the curtain back. To me, there's nothing
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  Speaker 3: better in this podcast space than to not only pull
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  Speaker 3: the curtain back, but rip it off. And shine a
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  Speaker 3: bright light on uncomfortable things. I want everyone to know
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  Speaker 3: how this TV stuff that you're doing with Laura Ingraham
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  Speaker 3: and and Chris Cuomo, and Will Kane, and all the,
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  Speaker 3: how it's going to your head. What? You want to
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  Speaker 3: go first so badly on this podcast, and we usually
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  Speaker 3: go every other day. Right. You start, I start. Who
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  Speaker 3: started yesterday? You started yesterday. And then you texted me,
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  Speaker 3: I want to start today because I want to give
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  Speaker 3: Nostradamus credit. Now, there's nothing about starting the podcast that
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  Speaker 3: would have kept you from giving me credit. You just
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  Speaker 3: want to go first. That's what you do. That's who
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  Speaker 3: you are. I knew this TV crap would go to
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  Speaker 3: your head. You are getting so arrogant and so full
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  Speaker 3: of yourself, you're not going to be able to get
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  Speaker 3: through the door because of that big head of yours.
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  Speaker 2: This seems to be a bad time for me to
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  Speaker 2: tell you I'm doing Will Kane this afternoon, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: See?
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  Speaker 3: See what I mean? Well, you'll have to go first
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  Speaker 3: again tomorrow for our big holiday theme day.
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  Speaker 2: Because I was about to offer pushback, but the reason
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to go first was to give you your
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  Speaker 2: proper accolade. But ultimately, upon further review, you're probably right.
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  Speaker 1: You take it back.
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  Speaker 3: I thought upon further review, you're going to take back
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  Speaker 3: all the adulation and the praise.
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  Speaker 2: No, this is, I mean, you didn't have to be
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  Speaker 2: Kreskin to figure this out, but you were first among
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  Speaker 2: many to just kind of see. And I think, unpack
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  Speaker 2: it for me. Was it the moment you saw President
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  Speaker 2: Trump begin to hem and haw about it? Was that
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  Speaker 2: when you went, ah, it's not going to happen?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was also that and sort of getting the
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  Speaker 3: reaction from the audience. Look, I've got lots of shortcomings
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  Speaker 3: and I have lots of flaws. We all do. But
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  Speaker 3: I've got a pretty good instinct for the pulse of
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  Speaker 3: the people. I always have. The day that Trump came
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  Speaker 3: down that golden escalator and I heard the excitement from
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  Speaker 3: the audience, I thought, you know what? I'm in. He's
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  Speaker 3: going to be the guy. And I felt good about it.
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  Speaker 3: And we were even in the hallways of WNYM in
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  Speaker 3: New York. Joe Piscopo and I were kind of huddled.
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  Speaker 3: together in the hallway saying, I think he's going to
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  Speaker 3: be the guy. And everybody was saying, oh, no way.
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  Speaker 3: You know, all the management folks at the radio station said, Trump,
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  Speaker 3: he's a joke. It's not going to happen. He can't win.
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  Speaker 3: It's a bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So I really do. I am kind of proud of
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  Speaker 3: my of my instincts. And yes, it was a combination
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  Speaker 3: of Trump, sort of the reporting that came from Axios.
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  Speaker 3: And I like Axios. I mean, they're they're beltway. They're inside.
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  Speaker 3: They're left leaning, probably. But they're pretty good reporting. They've
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  Speaker 3: got good journalism, journalism. They sort of know what they're
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  Speaker 3: what they're doing. And they said there were four, no
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  Speaker 3: less than four people that they spoke to who knew Trump,
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  Speaker 3: who said he was having reservations about it. Look, it's
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  Speaker 3: a lot to ask. And I I get the and
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  Speaker 3: did you see Trump's statement about it? His he posted
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  Speaker 3: a big truth social statement this morning. not too long ago,
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  Speaker 3: explaining his reasoning. And he went through the whole thing
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  Speaker 3: about what a coward and a monster this guy is.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he shot that young pregnant soldier. She was
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  Speaker 3: begging for the life of her baby. She was literally saying, please, please,
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  Speaker 3: my baby, my baby. He shot her multiple times. laying
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  Speaker 3: on the, he went back and executed these people. If
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  Speaker 3: this guy doesn't deserve the death penalty, nobody does. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad it's coming to fruition next month in at
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  Speaker 3: Fort hood, same time of day that he committed his
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  Speaker 3: evil heinous act. But I'm also relieved that this is
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  Speaker 3: just one less distraction. The people who are squeamish about it,
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  Speaker 3: even people on our side. Now you don't have an
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  Speaker 3: issue to be upset about. We're not going to see
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  Speaker 3: this guy's, you know, get blown away by, on pay-per-view.
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  Speaker 3: It's not going to happen. Trump has canceled the live
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  Speaker 3: stream execution, and I'm glad. I mean, look, it would
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  Speaker 3: have been a great disincentive for other terrorists. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think there's anything wrong with public execution.
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  Speaker 2: The arguments for it remain firm and principled, and you
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  Speaker 2: can still make them, and I would be glad to
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  Speaker 2: make them if we were going to go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: do this. The negatives began to outweigh the positives.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Part of it because of the optics. There were people
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  Speaker 2: who were totally on board for Trump and totally on
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  Speaker 2: board for the death penalty who said, let's not. Because, listen,
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  Speaker 2: people who hate the death penalty and hate Trump, you
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  Speaker 2: know they're going to be bagging on it. But when
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  Speaker 2: some people of good heart and goodwill begin to say,
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  Speaker 2: I just don't want to do this, you can't not
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  Speaker 2: pay attention. And the other thing that really got a
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  Speaker 2: hold of me, other than just the lure of the
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  Speaker 2: power of your suggestion and predictive skill is, Is I
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  Speaker 2: got to thinking that in a way, my logic was
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  Speaker 2: based on the perfect world, that in a vacuum, it's
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  Speaker 2: a good idea.
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  Speaker 3: You can do it. It's scriptural. It's principled.
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  Speaker 2: There's an intellectual and moral argument. And the broadcast itself,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure, would have been steeped in decorum and propriety.
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  Speaker 2: But then the problem is it goes out there into
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  Speaker 2: this vulgar, ridiculous, juvenile world we all live in, especially online.
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  Speaker 2: And it would have been joked and memed and mocked
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  Speaker 2: and perverted. And just so just, you know.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the other thing that would have happened, the people,
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  Speaker 3: if there would have been audio with the live stream,
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  Speaker 3: you know what he's going to yell.
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  Speaker 2: As the bullets go flying, right? Yeah, but I– you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's funny. Now it becomes a moot point. But it
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  Speaker 2: is kind of– Well, no.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's moot. How would this– would there
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  Speaker 3: have been audio? What do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: They said, what's it going to be like? How many
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  Speaker 2: people are going to be on the firing squad? Will
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  Speaker 2: the cameras be trained on him? Will we see him
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  Speaker 2: riddled with bullets? And the big answer was, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think they ever got around to actually
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  Speaker 2: planning that. They would have had to eventually because it's
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  Speaker 2: December 3rd.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what he will say. Big old Allahu
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  Speaker 3: Akbar in the fire. He is going to say, Alu Akbar,
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  Speaker 3: and that would be the martyrdom of him. On the
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  Speaker 3: other hand, it would also be a wake-up call. This
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  Speaker 3: is what we do to Islamic radical extremists who kill us.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we do. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the statement, by the way. Let me read it
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  Speaker 3: to you from President Trump. He wrote, is a very
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  Speaker 3: bad and evil man who killed 13 people, including a
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  Speaker 3: pregnant soldier who died, along with her unborn son, and injured,
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  Speaker 3: very seriously, 32 more innocent people. Barack Hussein Obama's Federal
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  Speaker 3: Bureau of Investigation intercepted electronic communications between Hassan and the
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  Speaker 3: radical Yemeni-American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki. When reviewed by his FBI
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  Speaker 3: terrorism task force, investigators concluded that Hassan's emails were not
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  Speaker 3: a threat This assessment of the Obama administration's actions was
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  Speaker 3: later considered to be a key intelligence failure. With all
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  Speaker 3: of that being said, Trump posted, I think streaming the
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  Speaker 3: execution for all to see might have been a strong
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  Speaker 3: deterrent for the world to witness how America deals with
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  Speaker 3: terrorists and scum alike. like Hassan, but many very good
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  Speaker 3: and well-meaning people would rather not watch him die through
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  Speaker 3: streaming or through any other visual device. He will die
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  Speaker 3: as scheduled by firing squad, but this event will not
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  Speaker 3: be streamed. That said, the execution may be viewed in
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  Speaker 3: person by the immediate families of the victims if they
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  Speaker 3: so choose. They deserve to witness justice. Thank you for
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  Speaker 3: your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a masterpiece. It underscores exactly how serious
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  Speaker 2: we are.
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  Speaker 3: It's perfect. And we're not going to do it. And
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  Speaker 3: by the way, good.
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather have a White House. I'd rather have leaders
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  Speaker 2: that float a bunch of ideas and go, hey, how
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  Speaker 2: about this? And then go, this one's good.
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  Speaker 3: This one's not.
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  Speaker 2: And kind of do this on the fly rather than
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  Speaker 2: have iconoclastic. people who will. Well, I said I was
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  Speaker 2: going to do it. I totally have to do it now.
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  Speaker 2: Flexibility is good.
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  Speaker 3: You bet it is. And I don't want to bury
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  Speaker 3: the lead. In 60 seconds, we've got to dive into
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  Speaker 3: are your name and your information is in Jack Smith's database. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I saw you post about that, and what a great
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  Speaker 2: People like this will either be rewarded with the reins
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  Speaker 3: It is up to us.
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  Speaker 2: What are we going to do? I mean, what are
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  Speaker 2: we going to do, Mike? Are people asking you, Listen,
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  Speaker 2: we do this for a living. We know some things.
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  Speaker 2: We've lived some life, but we don't necessarily have a
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  Speaker 2: particularly guaranteed crystal ball. I know I've got a deep feeling.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny because you came at me this morning at
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  Speaker 2: 735 on the radio and said you're sensing malaise. you're
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  Speaker 2: sensing that people might just kind of be down in
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  Speaker 2: the dumps. I am too, but I'm also simultaneously feeling
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  Speaker 2: some people slowly rising up from that and saying, you
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  Speaker 2: know what? We're not going to take these narratives. We're
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  Speaker 2: not going to let the polls be right. We're not
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  Speaker 2: going to let the Democrats be right. We're not going
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  Speaker 2: to let a bunch of slow learner Republicans get us down.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to walk through fire. We're going to walk
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  Speaker 2: through walls. We're going to crawl in broken glass to
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  Speaker 2: vote and thwart the usual history that the party in
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  Speaker 2: power gets a bloody nose. So I I hold out
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  Speaker 2: the hope that that happens. I pray that it happens.
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  Speaker 2: Can I guarantee it?
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  Speaker 1: Nope.
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  Speaker 3: But listen, you're the big predictor. What did you tell me?
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  Speaker 3: You know how you walk out of a studio after
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  Speaker 3: you have a show and you know you just hit
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  Speaker 3: it today. You nailed it. You had a great show.
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: To be honest with you, to be very blunt— I
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: feel that way every day after M & M Extra.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is about this podcast, but
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: every day I feel like we're doing what we want
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  Speaker 3: to do and what we should be doing. Absolutely. Hopefully
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  Speaker 3: this thing continues to grow and blow up into something very,
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  Speaker 3: very important for people. The talk show, not always the case.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, I hearken back to the days when I
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  Speaker 3: worked down the hall from Rush Limbaugh at WABC. When
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: I got hired at ABC— Rush, of course, I was
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  Speaker 3: the morning show host. And I would often stay there
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  Speaker 3: during a lot of the day. I mean, I was
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: a young guy starting out really in the big time
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  Speaker 3: world of talk radio and worked down the hall from Rush.
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  Speaker 3: And I would see him at three o'clock. If I'd
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  Speaker 3: be there late in the afternoon, I'd say, how'd the
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: show go? He'd say, ah, didn't really, I wasn't on
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: my game today. Now, these were days when he was
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  Speaker 3: just brilliant. But that, and that was who he was.
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  Speaker 3: But there were days when he said, yeah, I just
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  Speaker 3: didn't feel it today. I was a little off my game.
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  Speaker 3: And I had just listened to what I thought was
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  Speaker 3: a few hours of brilliance. Of course. Well, we all have.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe you don't have those days, Mr. I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: go first today on the podcast. I'll tell you in
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  Speaker 3: a minute. You finish first. But I have those days.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday was one of those days. I felt off my game.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what was wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't put my finger on it.
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  Speaker 3: But I'll tell you when I feel great today. And
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  Speaker 3: let me tell you why. Let me tell you why.
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  Speaker 3: I took callers who so-called... self-described Republicans who said they
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  Speaker 3: weren't voting. They weren't going to go on November 3rd,
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  Speaker 3: or they were going to write in the Libertarian, or
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  Speaker 3: they were going to write in Ralph Norman in South
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  Speaker 3: Carolina instead of Darlene Graham Nordone. And I spotlighted those callers.
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  Speaker 3: And I, first of all, I handled them, I think, respectfully, professionally,
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  Speaker 3: but not one guy called from Louisville, Greg in Louisville.
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  Speaker 3: I played that call back because it was so important.
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  Speaker 3: He's mad because he was a Thomas Massey voter. He
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  Speaker 3: was pissed off that Kentucky voter, well, he was mad
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  Speaker 3: at Trump. He said, Trump ousted Massey. Well, wait a minute, Mark.
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  Speaker 3: Trump didn't oust Massey. Voters ousted Massey. The Kentucky voters
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  Speaker 3: ousted him. And guess what? Ed Galrein's got to win. Well,
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: he doesn't like Ed Galrein. I said, what policy? Do
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  Speaker 3: you not like, I don't like that he's not fully transparent.
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  Speaker 3: Shut up. Are you kidding me? So I didn't say
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  Speaker 3: that to him. I actually was respectful. You're among friends.
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  Speaker 3: Would you knock it off? You're not going to, you
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  Speaker 3: don't like, look, don't let the perfect be the enemy
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  Speaker 3: of the good. Ken Paxton is not a perfect candidate.
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  Speaker 3: I'll say that all day long. Darlene isn't a perfect candidate.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me. You want Annie Andrews? You want Senator James Tallarico?
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  Speaker 3: Stop it. You've got to stop your little fit of
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  Speaker 3: peak and you've got to do the right thing. And
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: so I spent almost the whole show today sort of
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: forming that thought over a multiple hour long show. And
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: it felt great because you know what I think I did?
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Those callers. infuriated people enough to say, I'll crawl over
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: broken glass. There you go. Look what you did. Look
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: what you did there.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: And you've identified exactly, this is funny because as you're
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: mentioning that, and I haven't really, I don't get this introspective,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I guess I do, but I'm sitting here thinking as
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: you're telling your story, how often as we slice the pie,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: do I walk out at 10 o'clock central time and
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: kill the hour that leads to this experience with prep
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: and this and that, you know, taking a pee and
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: eating a bite of lunch or whatever I'm doing. If
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I'm eating early, how many talks or radio talk shows
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: do I finish and go? That was awesome. That was
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: pretty good. Or man, I wish I could have done better.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Are there some days where I go, I might not
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: have been batting a thousand a day.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, there are.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: But on the days where I go, my Lord, today
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: was great. Today was absolutely a masterpiece.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: It wasn't first and foremost me. It was the audience.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: There was something– because you and I are– I don't
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: want to say we're the same every day, but we
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: are a fixed entity. Whatever our content is, whatever we're thinking, feeling, saying–
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: The wild card, the variable at any given moment is
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: what do people bring you from the calling audience. And
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: when they're on it and special things happen and unexpected
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: things happen and there are surprises and delights and emotions
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: and real life happens, the top 10 best shows I've
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: ever done were not primarily because of me, but because
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: of what callers brought to me.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm going to interpret what you just said,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: which goes right back to my pulling back the curtain
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: saying you wanted to go first just so you could
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: go first today. You're telling me that when you're having
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: an off day, it's the audience's fault? No, no, no.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: The converse is not true. You actually just said that.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: You just said when I'm off, well, it's what the
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: audience brings me. These callers are crap. If I didn't
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: have crappy callers, I'd be better.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: If the show is great, the audience is a big
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: part of the reason why. If it's like in a business,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: if you love our business, if you hate our business,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: if you love our business, tell everybody. If you hate
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: our business, tell us. If the show is great, callers
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: are probably why. If the show is problematic, it's my fault.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I love it. Stop it. Stop it, Mike. And thanks
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: to Mad Mike, who just said, Mike, you were on
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: your A game. You were spot on today. Thank you,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Mad Mike. in the live chat room over on YouTube.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: And thank you for being there. Don't forget folks to
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: please subscribe. If you're in the chat room right now,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: take a second, just hit that subscribe button. We want
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: to get up to 5,000 subscribers. We've got a ways
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: to go. We're at 4,730. So come on, let's get going.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Please subscribe, like, follow us.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Let's do a quick moment of outreach because if somebody's
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: in the chat room, they're on YouTube already and it's
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: just a quick thing to subscribe. If somebody is just
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: driving around in their car, whatever time it is, whatever
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: day it is, and they're listening to Apple or Spotify,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: maybe they're subscribing to us there and it comes to
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: them in the Apple and Spotify world.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: And that's fine.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: But if you go ahead and hit us on YouTube
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: and subscribe to us there, that way, if you happen
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: to be at your laptop at noon Eastern or 11
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Central or the other time zones, do your own math.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: It just comes to you as if by magic. So
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: if you're on those other platforms, the Apples, the Spotify,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: all those places where fine podcasts are found, next time
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: you got your laptop open, hop on over, pop up
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: the YouTube, do M & M Extra, click subscribe on that,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: and it'll be just an extra show of devotion that
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: we will appreciate.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: And I admit I'm a little bit of a Luddite
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: with this stuff. Mark and I, we talked about this
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: this morning, how much we've loved doing this podcast. It's
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: kind of a new territory for us. So Mad Mike,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: who is responding to my shout out for him that
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I just gave him on the chat room, said smash
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: that like button now there is i just did that
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: on my screen here so okay i hit like i
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: don't know what the hell that does.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: But i know what's the like button again.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: But what's the like button dude is that that doesn't
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: give us subscribers does.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: It i don't think i don't think you gotta hit
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you gotta hit.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: The subscription button yeah so that's yasmin yasmin can straighten
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: me out on that old guys on the internet why
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: What are these buttons? What is happening? Oh, so Yasmin
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: points out that likes means engagement, but subscribe means subscribe.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Here's what I know. I think we've been on 4,733
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: subscribers for about six months now. We've got to get
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: to 5,000. Come on. We need subscribers. Come on. And
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: by the way, here's a moment pulling the curtain back
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: where I'll embarrass myself. And this is embarrassing. I'm finding
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: myself when I'm out running errands in the afternoon. Listening
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: to us? Yep. I'm going to Spotify in the car
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: and listening to us. And I'm loving it. And I'm
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: thinking I'm turning into a total narcissist. No, no, no.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Now, this is funny because I do it maybe not
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: as much as you do, but I confess that I
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: have done it as well. Because what happens is I'll
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: fire up my phone. I'll go to the various podcasts
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: that I do. And of course, I'm subscribing to my
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: own podcast. So it comes up the big, you know,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the big purple background and our happy faces bloop. And
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I go, oh, there's today's episode. I got a few minutes.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Let's see how that went. There is a difference. There
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: is an appreciable difference between doing the show and hearing
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the show. Because right now I'm thinking about whatever in
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the world is the next thing I'm going to say.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I'm processing whatever in the world the next thing that
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: you're going to say is and how to respond to
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: it and make sense. When I'm just driving around just
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: absorbing it in a passive way, it comes out a
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: little different. It's a different thing. And I'm always attentive
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: to seeing if a moment that struck me as magical
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: really was objectively great if I were listening to it
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: as a detached human being.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Can I thoroughly humiliate myself? Now, you sound reasonable and say, well,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I listened to a few minutes.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I sat in my parking garage last night. Oh, no, no, no.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: And listened to every word. I wanted to hear what
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: the whole thing sounded like. I said you were there.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I was pathetic. I'm so pitiful. Like Denise used to say,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I'm a little, little man. I agree with you. And
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: by the way, everybody's giving us advice. Scott Hummer says
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: hitting the like button helps to overcome the algorithms. The
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: more likes you get, the more YouTube will push you.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: your content. So that's, that's kind of nice to know.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: DM Prime says, love the YouTube broadcast. So, hey, like, subscribe, follow,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: and somebody, Grayson Kidd wants to know what our, what our,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: what our big theme is tomorrow. You want to give
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: a little tease about tomorrow's theme?
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: And it's funny, Mike mentioned this, full credit to Mike
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: for the idea, because I'm sitting here thinking, what would
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: be good for theme Friday? And we've done sort of
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: automotive technology Friday, historical travel Friday, and, And I don't
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: think this would have occurred to me for another few days,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: maybe next week.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: But once again, ahead of the curve, there's Mike saying,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: how about holiday preview Friday in which because you all
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: know it's October 15th. Halloween is in just over two
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: weeks and then bam, Thanksgiving, bam, Christmas. And then it's
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: New Year's. It's like, well, where did the year go?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: So since that's the way it's going to go, we're
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: going to festoon tomorrow's Friday episode with all kinds of
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: stories about Mark and Mike as kids trick or treating
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Halloween focus. Mark and Mike with thoughts about Thanksgiving and
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: how we have spent that and what we think of that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: And then the Mark and Mike Christmas preview as we
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: take a look at that holiday, how that's shaken out
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: in our lives. So it just, here comes the holiday season.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: You know, it's about to work its way around to
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: the front of your mind. We're going to sort of
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: do an overview of holidays immediately on the horizon in
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: front of us and the many, many, many that we've
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: experienced in the past.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: And I want to make a promise because longtime listeners
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: know that my Christmas as a kid growing up, it's
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: a little bit like a drunk Santa meets, you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: the nightmare before. I mean, it's, you know, I've had
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: some dark, dark Christmas. It's tricky. Here's my promise. Nothing
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: but positive memories about my Christmas. I promise nothing about good,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: nothing morbid tomorrow, nothing maudlin or sad. Cause it is
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: kind of a bummer. You know, I've, I've had some,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've had some stuff, you know, You know,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: when your dad dies on Christmas Day, there goes that holiday.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Here we are. I'm not doing that tomorrow. We're not
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: going to do that tomorrow.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Am I similarly shackled if there's something dark that I
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: want to visit on?
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, not that I'll do it on purpose. Oh,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: you can match my dark Christmas? No, no, no, but
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: nobody can. Can you keep up with that? No. I
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: get the brownie, pal. I win the brownie on that one.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: It totally differs. I mean, I'll go through. I can
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: go through the whole, the whole, the whole. I'm not
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: doing that tomorrow. But for some reason, Mark, I'm in
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: the holiday mood so much this year.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. And it's the middle of October.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Have you ever gotten to almost Thanksgiving and had somebody
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: tell you, or maybe you feel that way yourself?
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Yes. It's like, man.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just not feeling it's like I'm trying
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to and I'm not anti holiday. I'm not depressive. I
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: tend to be on board for this, but sometimes I'm
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: just slow to awaken. For some reason, I'm right there
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: with you. It's the middle of October and I'm ready
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: for the full trifecta Halloween. Thanksgiving, Christmas, spring, I'm ready
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: to pivot from A to B to C.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Totally ready. And I know why it is with me.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: First of all, a week or so ago, I visited
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: for the first time in my life Salem, Massachusetts. Now,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: do you know how thrilling that was to see the
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: history of the witchcraft and the witch trials? In fact...
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Joey Hudson reminded me that Bill O'Reilly wrote one of
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: his Killing Series books on the Salem witch trial. Did
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: you read it? Sure did. I read all those. I
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: had Bill on the show.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: He and that Martin Dugard guy would crank out a
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: killing book like every six weeks.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: It's like, okay, here's the latest. Joey said The Killing
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Witches of Salem, Massachusetts is one of his best. I
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: got it. It came yesterday in Amazon, and I'm going
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: to read it. I can't wait.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: As you know about it, it is so– It's insane.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: It's right there in the 1690s. And they just decide, well,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: there's some inexplicable things going on. Must be witches. Let's
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: start killing people.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Whoa. And they do.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: And everybody's on board for it because you don't know.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: How would you like to be the person in Salem,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Massachusetts in 1692? who goes to a big old town
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: meeting and says, you know, I've got a thought here
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: that maybe what we're doing is wrong.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Well, that must be because you're a witch. It's like, whoa,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: you're a witch. Then you're a witch. They took, they,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: they put a six year old in jail, a six
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: year old child. They took 80 year old women, uh,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: hanged them because they suspected them of being witches. It's crazy. And,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: but I will tell you the festive atmosphere in Salem, Massachusetts,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: all through October is, is something everybody ought to visit
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: at least once in their life. It's so fun. The houses,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: the properties, the community is so beautiful and picturesque right
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: there on the water. Houses that were from the 1600s
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: are still standing. And I'm in that. I'm in that.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: And I've never really been big in Halloween, but I
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: am now. Did Disney last week. We did the Mickey's
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Not So Scary Halloween celebration. For Christmas, somebody just called
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: me Mike Griswold. Well, that's a hallmark in the Gallagher
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: family is Christmas vacation with Chevy Chase and the Griswolds.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: My new tradition for the last few years, a hotel
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: room right on the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade route. Now,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: it cost me an arm and part of a leg
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: to do it. They'll sell you a room where you
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: have a parade view in the hotel room of the
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, Mark. How much? Oh, Mark, you
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: don't want to know. I really want to know. I'm ashamed. No,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I can't tell you. I'm embarrassed. Look, I had a
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: lady get mad at me yesterday. Mr. Pull the curtain back.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not pulling that curtain back. I'll get nothing but ridicule.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I will stand up for you. All right. Three nights.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: I'll just say this. I'll give you a hint. Three nights.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Five figures.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Which is anywhere from $ 10, 000 to $ 99, 000. That's all I'm
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: going to say.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: So five figures for three nights that they saw me coming.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: And I go back to the same place like an idiot.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: I like an idiot. I go back and spend that
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: obscene amount of money.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: But this is weird because you sent me video. We're
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: pretty well doing the Friday show now. Yeah, let's not
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: do this tomorrow. But one last thing, because for the
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Thanksgiving thing, the– Did you ramp up to this? Because
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I remember at one point you were like doing a
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: brunch where you just were there at a window eating
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: a meal at nine o'clock in the morning, which I'm
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: sure was not cheap either. But you didn't have to
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: have the whole. How do you mean you don't need
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: the whole stupid room to be above the parade route
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: for three days?
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Well, the room, though, first of all, it's a minimum
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: of three nights. They don't let you stay for one day.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: So they make you do three. Look, I'm telling you,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: they see me coming. They say, this dummy. Hey, it's
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: the podcast. It's the podcast. Let me get a little blue.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: They say, this dumbass, Mike Gallagher, is going to come along,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: and we'll get anything we want out of him because
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: he's in the Christmas spirit. But here's the beauty of it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: When you're up there in that room. Of course. And
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: it's pouring down rain. Yes. Which has happened. And it's
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: 36 degrees and people are getting dang green. It's 36
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: degrees or snowing or raining and windy and you're in
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: a comfortable hotel room eating room service. Yep. Looking out
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: the window and this hotel has little window seats. Oh,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: it's the best. It's the absolute best. And look, God
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: could take this all for me tomorrow. I am very
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: well aware that I'm blessed that I can afford it. Well,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: I can't really. I mean, I'm going to go hungry
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: for a while, but nonetheless, I could pay for it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm grateful that because of platforms like this, I
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: get to do this kind of stuff. And I get
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: to share some of these experiences. And, Mark, you and
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I get every day to get to share the experience
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: of pre-born. By the way, did you see Trump did
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: a tribute to Charlie yesterday? And he said Charlie would
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: have been 34 today. I don't think that's right. 33.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I thought he was mistaken.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: He was 31 when he died, turned 32 days later,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: so 33 yesterday.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: So President Trump was simply off by a year, but
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: we're not off in our love for Charlie's memory and
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: what he did with Preborn, our title sponsor of the podcast.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: They offer free ultrasounds to girls and women. When a
• 30:27
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• 30:30
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• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Did you see what Tallarico said last night in a
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: CNN town hall?
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: The Bible is silent on abortion. How blind, how willfully
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: stupid do you have to be to know what God
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: wants with the life that he created? And I don't
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: mind bringing in the heavy artillery. If you're able, God
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: wants you to throw us a little something for pre-born
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: so that we can show these wonderful, wonderful sonograms, these
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: incredible ultrasounds to women so that they are twice as
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: likely to choose life. $ 140 helps give five mothers a
• 31:05
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• 31:11
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• 31:13
  Speaker 2: a day. And the big enchilada, $ 15, 000. If you've got
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  Speaker 2: and save babies moving forward. And no matter what happens,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: no matter what level of giving you engage in, we
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: are so enormously grateful.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: All you got to do is call 833-850-BABY, especially if
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  Speaker 3: you want to make that big contribution to sponsor a machine.
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  Speaker 3: Don't forget to tell them that you heard about it
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  Speaker 3: or saw it on the M & M Extra podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Call 833-850-BABY. 833-850-2229 or go to preborn.com slash M M
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  Speaker 3: extra preborn.com slash M M extra. What do you say?
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  Speaker 3: We do a holiday show tomorrow, huh? Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Davis, I'm in the mood. Let's put on a show.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get everybody stoked for Halloween, stoked for Christmas, stoked
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  Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving, and we'll just lay out some stories. And
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  Speaker 2: then listen, these are things we'll probably revisit because these
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  Speaker 2: things are actually going to unfold in the coming days
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  Speaker 2: and weeks and months. And we love us some holidays.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to find out just how much on tomorrow's
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  Speaker 2: Friday episode.
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  Speaker 3: See you tomorrow. Thanks for joining us.