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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Hornets Brass Talks Brandon Miller Extension · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 4: this show. Clemson, Virginia, Texas, a fun one, too. So
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  Speaker 4: we'll get into those before we get out of here.
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  Speaker 4: We've got some Hornets talk. Seon James is going to
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  Speaker 4: join us this hour. So we've got a lot of
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  Speaker 4: things happening. But let's talk about the enemy this week, Bone,
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  Speaker 4: a familiar enemy and one that, quite honestly, other than
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  Speaker 4: the home game last year, has brought out the whooping
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  Speaker 4: stick on the Panthers of late. Won six of the
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  Speaker 4: last seven. Baker himself personally is 6-1. against the Panthers.
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  Speaker 4: And it does appear Baker Mayfield is back. And when
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  Speaker 4: we got to get Bucs information, we go to the
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  Speaker 4: man that's going to shoot us straight bone. He's not
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  Speaker 4: going to sugarcoat it. He is Ira Kaufman, legendary NFL writer,
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  Speaker 4: writes for JoeBucsFan.com there in Tampa. And he joins us
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  Speaker 4: to talk Bucs here on the Mac and Bone Show. Ira,
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  Speaker 4: how you been, man? What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Gentlemen, it's 55 degrees here in Florida. There's panic in
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  Speaker 1: the streets. We don't know how to handle it. Are
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  Speaker 1: you guys going to be nice to a wounded animal
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  Speaker 1: that's coming into Charlotte?
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  Speaker 3: Man, I hope no. We may serve it some barbecue
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  Speaker 3: along the way. I hope not. My goodness.
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  Speaker 1: Not only are they 1-5, guys, in the NFC South
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  Speaker 1: basement looking up at the Panthers, but this is a
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  Speaker 1: pattern that goes back to the middle of last season.
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  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, nobody can figure it out. Something must've
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  Speaker 1: happened during the bi-week last year. They were six and two.
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  Speaker 1: Then they went two and seven. They didn't make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Now they're one in five. That's three and 12 gentlemen. Um,
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  Speaker 1: there's no team in the league. That's worse over 15
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  Speaker 1: games than the bucks right now. So it's all unraveling.
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  Speaker 1: The fans are screaming for the coach's head. Um, I
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  Speaker 1: think Mayfield's going to play him, put it about an 85%
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  Speaker 1: chance you're going to see Mayfield. Heck, he wanted to
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  Speaker 1: play last week against Pittsburgh. But I think two franchises
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  Speaker 1: going in the opposite direction are meeting on Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: Ira, how close do you think it is for the Bulls, Aaron,
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  Speaker 5: and would a loss to the Panthers do it, or
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  Speaker 5: is there a little bit more time to go for
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  Speaker 5: them since Baker did get hurt?
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  Speaker 1: No, I think it would be over by maybe 4.15
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday. I mean, let's be realistic. They're not going
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  Speaker 1: to make a change in the middle of the season.
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  Speaker 1: The owners have never done that. They fired a lot
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  Speaker 1: of coaches, but they've always let the guy play out
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  Speaker 1: the strength, so I expect that to happen. But essentially,
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  Speaker 1: the Bucs season could end Sunday. Maybe four games back
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  Speaker 1: in the lost column of the Panthers, and the odds
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  Speaker 1: are they wouldn't make it as a wild card at 1-6.
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  Speaker 1: So that would be it. Not a lot's going right
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  Speaker 1: for the Bucs. They're in close games, but they don't
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  Speaker 1: know how to finish. They had a 10-point lead against
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  Speaker 1: the Browns at home. They lost. They had a 13-point
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  Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter last week at home. Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 1: they lost. They lost four straight home games, guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: teams don't do that. So they're only wins on the
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  Speaker 1: road on a Thursday night against Dallas. You know, they
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  Speaker 1: played a really good game. I'm a little surprised the
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  Speaker 1: Panthers are only three-point favorites. I don't know how you guys.
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  Speaker 6: Look at it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we were talking about that earlier. They got the
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  Speaker 5: home advantage with the three there. But, yeah, it seems
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  Speaker 5: like it should be higher than that.
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  Speaker 7: No doubt.
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  Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, Canales is doing a good job.
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  Speaker 1: They seem to be a team on the rise. defending
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  Speaker 1: division champs. They played well in the playoff game. Things
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  Speaker 1: are going well. I think the best thing they ever
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  Speaker 1: did was bench Bryce Young. And at the time, it
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  Speaker 1: was a tough call. You don't know how a young
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  Speaker 1: guy is going to respond to that. They could be disillusioned.
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  Speaker 1: You might lose the guy. But it hasn't happened with
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  Speaker 1: Bryce Young. He plays better and better. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they've got a great young receiver. And the Bucs... They
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  Speaker 1: have not done a good job replacing Mike Evans. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Evans is in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 7: He's doing well.
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  Speaker 1: And whether it's his experience or his know-how or his
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  Speaker 1: rapport with Mayfield, they haven't replaced him. Buka, who had
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  Speaker 1: a good rookie season last year, not quite as good
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  Speaker 1: as McMillan, but really good, close to 1,000 yards. He
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  Speaker 1: hasn't done much. Chris Godwin looked great in training camp.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody roots for the guy to come back. He's had
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  Speaker 1: two terrible injuries. He's healthy, but he's not doing much.
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  Speaker 1: So the Buck offense, if Bucky Irving, who I think
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  Speaker 1: is the catalyst for the Bucks, he ran wild in Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: That's why the Bucks looked really good in Dallas. And
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  Speaker 1: he disappeared last week. So I think that's the key
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  Speaker 1: matchup for the Panthers on Sunday. putting the clamps on Bucky.
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  Speaker 7: Irving, who's very shifty.
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  Speaker 5: Ira, Texter wants to know, what part of Florida are
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  Speaker 5: you from? You don't have a southern accent like a
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  Speaker 5: lot of Floridians do. I've heard that accent in Florida
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  Speaker 5: a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I used to live in Fort Lauderdale, Ira.
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  Speaker 1: I tell people I'm from Nebraska, but it doesn't work.
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  Speaker 1: Good old Brooklyn, New York, my friend.
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  Speaker 7: There you go, baby. New York.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. You are not alone.
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  Speaker 4: You are not alone down there in the state of Florida.
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  Speaker 4: Ira Kaufman is with us, JoeBucksFan.com, telling us essentially how
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  Speaker 4: bad it is in Tampa right now. I still have this, though,
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  Speaker 4: respect for Baker. Like I said, he's 6-1 against the Panthers.
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  Speaker 4: Lord knows he had a miserable time here, so he
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  Speaker 4: seems to enjoy if he can beat the Panthers. Do
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  Speaker 4: you not feel like... desperate team, Baker Mayfield will kind
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  Speaker 4: of reinvigorate them with energy. Could you not see a
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  Speaker 4: scenario where that happens and they play spirited on Sunday?
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  Speaker 1: I understand your point. Well taken. Certainly, Mayfield's always got
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  Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder. Always. A perceived slight uses
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  Speaker 1: it to his advantage. However, the facts remain That's since
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  Speaker 1: the middle of last season, which was the collapse, the
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  Speaker 1: 2-7 finish, and the first three games this year that
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  Speaker 1: Mayfield played. So that's 12 games. He hasn't played well. Now,
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  Speaker 1: when the bye week hit last week, they were 6-2.
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  Speaker 1: Mayfield was an MVP candidate and a real one. He
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  Speaker 1: was playing that well. He was pulling games out in
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  Speaker 1: the last minute. You know, two, three of those wins
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  Speaker 1: came in the last minute. He was playing great. And
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  Speaker 1: then something happened. When they needed him the most down
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  Speaker 1: the stretch, he didn't step up. He didn't. They did
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  Speaker 1: beat Carolina, right, in the final game. They thought they
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  Speaker 1: might get into the playoffs, but it didn't happen because
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  Speaker 1: they needed help. They needed help. And the Panthers ended
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  Speaker 1: up getting in. Mayfield has not played well since the
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  Speaker 1: middle of last season. So now he's got the big contract.
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  Speaker 1: They're calling him the $ 55 million man here in Tampa.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of Bucs fans are thinking that the
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  Speaker 1: Bucs were premature in giving him that contract. Maybe let
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  Speaker 1: him play out the year and see what kind of
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  Speaker 1: season the Bucs have. Now they're stuck with him. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, next year there's a lot of– there's some
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  Speaker 1: good quarterbacks in the draft next year, and the Bucs,
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  Speaker 1: you know, are kind of tied in with Mayfield. So
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  Speaker 1: it's a tough situation. He needs a good finish, Mayfield.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he can start Sunday in Charlotte. But a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things have to go right, I think, for the
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  Speaker 1: Bucs to win this game.
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  Speaker 5: One quarterback that is playing well right now, it's kind
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  Speaker 5: of turned over the last year of where Baker was
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  Speaker 5: and where Bryce Young is and now where Bryce Young
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  Speaker 5: is in.
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  Speaker 3: His development, Ira.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think of Bryce right now and the
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  Speaker 5: fact that he's even involved in MVP discussions?
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  Speaker 1: I think he's a young quarterback on the rise. There's
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  Speaker 1: no other way to look at it. He's making good decisions.
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  Speaker 1: He's not turning the ball over. You know, look at Mayfield. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the first game this year, they're on the road in Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: He loses three fumbles. Mayfield, three.
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  Speaker 5: Lost.
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  Speaker 1: Not fumbles. Lost fumbles. And you can't win a game
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  Speaker 1: like that on the road. And they didn't. uh you
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  Speaker 1: know they were competitive but they didn't and you know
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  Speaker 1: and then they played teams like minnesota green bay pittsburgh
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  Speaker 1: last week by the way guys by the way and
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  Speaker 1: i know it doesn't come across on video but i
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  Speaker 1: was there and i don't think i i've been doing
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  Speaker 1: this a long time yeah I don't think I've ever
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  Speaker 1: seen a team, a visiting team, take over a stadium
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  Speaker 1: like the Steelers did on Sunday. Now, I know Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 1: fans travel.
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  Speaker 3: We know the feeling, sadly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of embarrassing. Now, Florida's a funky market.
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  Speaker 1: You guys know that. You know, the Miami Marlins, they
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  Speaker 1: don't have much of a home field advantage. The Tampa
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  Speaker 1: Bay Rays don't when certain teams come into town. But
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers took over that stadium. And when Pittsburgh Rodgers
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  Speaker 1: was mounting that comeback in the fourth quarter, all those
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  Speaker 1: terrible fouls were waving right in our faces. Oh, God.
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  Speaker 3: Been there before. Glad to hear it happens elsewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that happens a little bit in Charlotte, especially
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  Speaker 1: when the Panthers are not having a good season.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's not happening this week. It's not
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  Speaker 4: happening this week, Ira. I have a feeling Buck fans
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  Speaker 4: aren't going to be in Charlotte. We got taken over
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  Speaker 4: by Vikings fans one time.
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  Speaker 3: It was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, Canales is a guy that you've got
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  Speaker 1: to root for because I got to know him a
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  Speaker 1: little bit here in Tampa. He was only here a year. But, boy,
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  Speaker 1: what a genuine guy. And the players respect him. They
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  Speaker 1: play hard for him. You know, he doesn't get too
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  Speaker 1: high or low. And in contrast, Bowles looks like he's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, coaching for his last season here in Tampa.
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  Speaker 7: No doubt.
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  Speaker 1: He's now under. 500. Five years as Bucs coach, under. 500.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't look good. You know, and winning a division
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  Speaker 1: at 8-9, which the Panthers did last year. You know,
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  Speaker 1: to me, that's not a great accomplishment. It's not. And
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  Speaker 1: I think this year the difference is Carolina is going
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  Speaker 1: to have a winning record.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that, too. Although for us last year,
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  Speaker 4: we definitely celebrated. It was a great accomplishment. But we
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  Speaker 4: stunk for about a decade, Ira. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: All right, brother.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, we appreciate you. You always shoot us straight. Although
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  Speaker 4: we did get one text here. 980 number says, Ira
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  Speaker 4: does this on your show every time. He bashes the Bucs.
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  Speaker 4: He has me feeling so confident. And then Baker Mayfield
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  Speaker 4: kicks our rear end.
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  Speaker 3: He said he's rope-a-doping us. They think you're rope-a-doping us, Ira.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 1: Here's my response to, uh, here's my response to you. Three,
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  Speaker 1: three and 12. It's three and 12. And so it
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  Speaker 1: looks like they're in a death spiral. Uh, we'll, we'll
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  Speaker 1: see what happens. Nobody thought they would win in Dallas
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  Speaker 1: and they did. So, uh, it's all on the line
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  Speaker 1: for the bucks on Sunday. Um, They've got to let
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  Speaker 1: it all hang out. And this new offensive coordinator, Zach
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  Speaker 1: Robinson from Atlanta, he's got to take everything he's got
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  Speaker 1: in his toolbox and throw it out at the Panthers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's true. What he's doing right now is not working.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. All right, brother, always good to catch up
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  Speaker 3: with you, man. Thanks for the time.
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  Speaker 1: All right, guys, catch you later.
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  Speaker 7: Thanks, Ira.
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  Speaker 3: Ira Kaufman down there in Tampa, JoeBucksFan.com.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, somebody also points out, I didn't even remember this,
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  Speaker 4: that we had Bobby Hebert on last year before one
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  Speaker 4: of the Saints games. He did the same thing, telling
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  Speaker 4: us how bad the Saints are and that they have
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  Speaker 4: no chance against the Panthers, and the Saints beat the Panthers. So, Ira,
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  Speaker 4: I think he thought that he made Charlotte feel better,
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  Speaker 4: but we got.
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  Speaker 3: People more paranoid now.
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  Speaker 4: After the ira conversation yeah now i'm nervous he's right
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  Speaker 4: though i didn't like we were talking about what baker's
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: record is like in his last 12 or 13 but
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: like throw the daniels games in 3 and 12 in
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  Speaker 4: their last 15 games i mean yeah it just well
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: six and two star last year was the number right
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  Speaker 4: yeah and ever since then three and twelve so it's
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  Speaker 4: just their defense listen their defense has played pretty well
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  Speaker 4: but offensively they've been a mess even when baker was
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  Speaker 4: in there It really is the passing of the torch.
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  Speaker 4: They passed it to us last year, but it feels
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  Speaker 4: like a Bucs team that needs a new coach, and
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  Speaker 4: that's why it is so surprising, Bone, they paid Baker,
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  Speaker 4: because doesn't it feel like a team that needs to
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  Speaker 4: start over?
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  Speaker 3: So why did they pay Baker?
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  Speaker 5: It's amazing how quickly you can think, oh, maybe that
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  Speaker 5: was a mistake because it didn't feel like it at
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  Speaker 5: the time. But a year later, with this draft coming up,
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: like Ira said, it's amazing how quickly in that sport
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  Speaker 5: a guy can get paid and you regret it almost,
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  Speaker 5: not far from that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they paid him, what, two months ago? That's
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  Speaker 3: what it was.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Seriously.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 5: I was thinking it was longer than two months ago. Yeah,
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: it was right before the season. We have a Hornets
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  Speaker 5: segment coming up next. We've got great audio from Brandon
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: Miller's presser, a very honest answer from Khan. And during
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: the segment, we're going to talk to current Hornets' Seon
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  Speaker 5: James as well, ahead of the opener at home tonight
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  Speaker 5: against the Hawks. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
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  Speaker 8: I think this contract not only shows the short-term significance
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  Speaker 8: of what we're trying to do with our team and
• 15:28
  Speaker 8: commitment to Brandon, but it's a long-term thing as well.
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  Speaker 8: I think that it just shows what he's accomplished and
• 15:34
  Speaker 8: all those gaudy stats that Sam rattled off before, but
• 15:38
  Speaker 8: it's also about who he can continue to become. He
• 15:41
  Speaker 8: is truly obsessed with daily improvement. I think we got
• 15:44
  Speaker 8: to see a ton of his growth last night. even
• 15:48
  Speaker 8: versus a win versus the Nets. And what he brings
• 15:51
  Speaker 8: on both ends of the floor, the vocal leadership continues
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  Speaker 8: to grow. I just know that there's more and more.
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  Speaker 8: He and I had a little conversation and said, we
• 16:00
  Speaker 8: can't wait to hit Jeff upside the head for another
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  Speaker 8: bag when we accomplish what I know we're going to
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  Speaker 8: accomplish over the next few years. So I'm hyped to
• 16:08
  Speaker 8: be able to continue to grow at Brandon.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: That's Charles Lee at the presser yesterday. The Hornets held
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  Speaker 4: for Brandon Miller's new $ 209 million five-year contract. I love
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: that line from Coach Lee. What we're going to accomplish
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  Speaker 4: here and what Brandon's going to accomplish in the future,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to hit Jeff over the head for another bag.
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  Speaker 3: And I hope it happens, man. And I'm sure, Bone.
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  Speaker 4: The Brandon skeptics on the text line will take well
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  Speaker 4: to that text. I'm sure that's going to go over fine.
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  Speaker 5: No, everyone, everyone eases into the season and nobody overreacts
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  Speaker 5: after one game. It doesn't happen. Send in your text, 704-570-9610. Oh,
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: we just got it right now. Brian, what does Brandon
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: Miller bring other than 18 points a game? First of all,
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: it was 20 plus last year. with a shoulder that
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: was a 10 out of a 10 on the pain scale.
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  Speaker 5: You know that's not his season average, right? That was
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: the first game of the year. I guess it is
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  Speaker 5: this year, so he's getting it in while it is.
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  Speaker 5: You hit the nail on the head yesterday, though. I
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  Speaker 5: think there's sticker shock when it comes to that amount
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  Speaker 5: of money, and yeah, it's a huge amount of money.
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  Speaker 5: But in the NBA world, Mac, that's not even... There's
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  Speaker 5: many more contracts that are bigger than that. That is
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  Speaker 5: the going rate for young, borderline guys for the all-star
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  Speaker 5: team coming up. That's not even the highest end of
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: the salary. 30-second highest paid contract. Is it 30 guys
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  Speaker 5: make the all-star team? 30 guys make the all-star game
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  Speaker 5: 24 or 20.
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  Speaker 3: It's less than that.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. 12 on each.
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  Speaker 4: So it's somebody then that's, you know, although now we
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: do this goofy format, I don't even know how it
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: works now with this goofy format we got, but it's
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: just somebody that either, you know, can squeeze into the
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: all-star game or is like you said, or is just
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: out of the all-star game, you know? So it's, um, uh,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: does he have things to work on? There's no doubt
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: about it. But, um, according to the broadcast last night,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: he put on nine pounds. Like, he was able still
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: to lift weights after the surgery and put on some weight.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: I know he's got to play more physical and be stronger.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: He's got to drive it. He's got to create more.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: I understand all that stuff. But he's got a world
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: of talent, man. We have to let him get into
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: the season a little more also.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: Just because he signed the contract doesn't mean that his body,
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: from what he came off of with the surgery, is
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: fully ready to go. We've got to let him get
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: his legs going a little bit here.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: Now, I've got to shout out P-Man, all right, because– Hey, guys.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: There was a question that was asked yesterday that got
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: a great response from Jeff Peterson. And it turned out,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: I did not know whose question it was, but I
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: was thinking that's an awesome response. Turned out it was
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: the P-Man's question. So listen to this bone man from
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: the presser, P-Man and Jeff Peterson.
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: And Jeff, at what point, it could be here, it
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: could be in college, but at what point did you
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: have it in your mind that Brandon could be a
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: cornerstone player for this franchise?
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 18:51
  Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, certainly going back to Washington.
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: Good question. Good question.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Good question.
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: Washington playing in college.
• 18:59
  Speaker 10: You know, players don't come along, you know, very often
• 19:02
  Speaker 10: of his caliber in terms of just, again, the talent and,
• 19:05
  Speaker 10: you know, the work ethic and drive. So, of course,
• 19:08
  Speaker 10: I wasn't with the Hornets at the time that he
• 19:10
  Speaker 10: got drafted. But, you know, at that point that he
• 19:12
  Speaker 10: was going to be a special player in this league
• 19:13
  Speaker 10: one day.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I love that, Brandon. It's a good question. Good question
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: to Willie. Willie's getting some love there.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: How about that? Willie, respected in all the buildings in
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: this city. I wish I could say, well, about that.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, daddy, yes.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: About that. There is some serious disrespect to Willie P.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: on the text line.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: Especially this building right here, Willie.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Clearly, Willie.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: We would never talk about you the way that Coach
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Kev's 13-year-old has talked about you this morning.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, no. This is a text. I think this might be...
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Worst Willie.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Slander bone than anybody here has ever done to bust
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Willie's chops.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Coach Kev said.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: We just heard the willie p i'm will palachuk and
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: this is your charlotte fc minute and my 13 year
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: old says he ruins my morning are you kidding me.
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: Get out of here you are out of your freaking
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: mind right now.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: 13 years old? Are they allowed to join the club
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: back at 13 years old?
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Willie P just got stuffed in a body bag by
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Coach Kev's 13-year-old.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: It's like Willie's back in high school all over again.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Hey, he was 18 when he got bullied by that 13-year-old.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Who are you trying to play, pal? Don't play me.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: You guys are being mean to Willie. How did Willie
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: treat you yesterday, Fitty, later on in the day?
• 20:33
  Speaker 11: Guys, he walks in about 1130. After me and Flounder
• 20:38
  Speaker 11: just got done, like, doing two minutes of our Willie impression,
• 20:41
  Speaker 11: and all I simply asked.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Is, Willie, what are you doing here?
• 20:44
  Speaker 11: I am a trusted and valued employee of this radio station.
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: My key badge still works.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I can come and go as I please, damn it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Why is it every time when I show up, it's
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: like Santa Claus? Two minutes. I mean, I can't even
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: say all the cuss words he cussed at me.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Actually, correction P, it's not like Santa Claus when you
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: show up because people are happy when Santa Claus shows up.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: What are you doing?
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: There's rumors that Willie's already been banned from Cookie Land
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: at Wegmans.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, no. That's not.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: That would devastate him. What is he, squatting? That would
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: devastate him.
• 21:20
  Speaker 11: Dude, that photo of him, by the way, that he
• 21:22
  Speaker 11: got spotted in, he looks like a robber. Like, he
• 21:25
  Speaker 11: looks like he's there to do some bad, some bad things.
• 21:27
  Speaker 11: He does not look like a nice... friendly person.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Coach Kev now says his son is laughing his ass
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: off after we told that story and read the text.
• 21:35
  Speaker 11: Willie just texted to the text line, what the hell
• 21:37
  Speaker 11: did I just turn on?
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: P-Man, unfortunate timing for you to turn that radio on, baby.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Go back to 829 on the podcast, P-Willie.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when you're Wilson and Willie, just skip over this
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: two minutes. Can I give P-Man some props, though?
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: I already gave his question to Jeff Peterson props. Then
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: there was about a three-minute Willie Slander portion of the show.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: It's unfortunate.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: But let me say this about Willie. He was right
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: about the handball on Pep Biel. that earned them a
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: penalty kick. I'm talking about Philly. And honestly, it seems
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: like we got screwed out of two points when I
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: had this mammoth win against the hottest team in the
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: damn league on the road for Charlotte FC. And they
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: gave a handball. P-Man was adamant when it happened. He
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: was adamant on our show the other day.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I agreed.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: I thought he was trying to keep the hands tucked in.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: And if it hits your arms when you're trying to
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: keep them tucked in like that, I don't think it
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: should be a penalty. Dean Smith revealed yesterday, Bone, he
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: got a message from the league saying our refs and
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: VAR officials messed up.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: How about that? Yeah, Willie was all over that one.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: So Willie was all over. It doesn't get us anything, though, unfortunately.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: But it allows us to say a nice thing about
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Willie after he just got body bagged by a 13-year-old.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: Does anyone realize that the problem's not Willie at Cookie Land?
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: It's who's the person taking photos of Willie at Cookie Land?
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: You have more issues than Willie taking a vacation at
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: Cookie Land.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: That's a good point.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: You had the Palachuk paparazzi out there. Can't my man
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: just enjoy Cookie Land without the press over? The Pete
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Parasi was out there.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Does that work? I was trying to find a way
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: to say it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: That sounded kind of weird. All right, let's get this
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: con clip in here. I love Willie.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Let's get this con clip in here. Seon is coming up.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: live on this show, Seon James, after making the start
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: the other night with Con out.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: And I swear, playing some good defense on Porter.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: I can't believe the shots that dude, that's what he does.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: He was hitting some ridiculous shots. But we'll talk to
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Seon about starting a new season and what he worked
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: on in the offseason. um as well and so much
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: more but uh this was con knipple on what is
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: this podcast called young man in the three it used
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: to be the old man the three didn't it correct
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: okay jj's old podcast right jj jansen no reddick.
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: It's basketball. Duh. That wasn't an old man joke.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Duh.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: All right. When you said old man and J.J., I
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: kind of got confused. All right. So now J.J. 's
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: not on it, and the young man's on it. The
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: young man, the three. This is Con Knipple. Interesting question
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: and honest answer. Your first like, holy. Kind of blew
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: you away moment.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Did you have one?
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: Put OKC in the preseason. All of a sudden, I
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: was like, Garden SGA. I'm like in transition. I was
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: just like, man, I got no chance.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: It was a preseason game. And I was just like, oh,
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: my goodness. I picked this guy up. I was like looking,
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: I was like, is somebody else coming to pick him up?
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: And I was like, all right, I got him. The
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: difficulty of the shots he shoots that he makes look
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: easy is probably the thing that's most impressive about him.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: But just like his pace too with the ball, like
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: he doesn't go that fast. But yeah, he's so hard
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: to guard.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: So there you go. That was the first holy bleep
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: moment for Khan. Yeah, Khan, don't feel bad. He's hard
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: to guard for everybody, not just you, Khan. Everybody. I mean,
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: it's a unique style that he does have, the ability
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: to kind of, he just said it right there, the pace,
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: but also those shots when.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: He hangs in the lane. I mean, it's just.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Hard shots. He's got a deep old Wegmans bag. I'm
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: glad it's a Wegmans bag.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I'm glad he said that because I think the critics,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: like all the foul merch and stuff, not saying he
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: doesn't flop, not saying he doesn't foul bait and all
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: that stuff, but some people just ignore the skill level
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: that dude has.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Anyway, Hornets draft pick way back in the day. But
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: we won't start that up on the text line, bud.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: We will not start that up on the text line.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: All right, let's do this, man. We just played a
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: clip from Conn Knipple with his teammate at Duke and
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: with the Hornets.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Is with us right now. Oh, no, because we don't
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: play the Duke fight song. That's fine.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: See you on, James. That's what happens when you get
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: a Tar Heel fan running the board.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: It's okay.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: He won't play the Duke fight song for our guests.
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: I understand. It's all right.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I suggest things. That ain't right.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: But we hope he feels at home anyway. See you on, James,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: from your Charlotte Hornets. Joins us as they get ready
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: for the home opener tonight against Atlanta.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: See you on. Thank you for coming on, man. How
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: you doing?
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: I'm doing great, man. Just play the fight song.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: It's okay.
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: We'll be all right.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Come on, Finney. You can survive it, baby. Do you
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: see how I'm treated, Sion, around here for being the
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: dude guy? It's unbelievable, man.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: You guys always show love. It's all good.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: So you guys get a win the other night. I
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: think a lot of people, Coach Lee, I think, pointed out, hey,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: it wasn't pretty, but it was a road win. You
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: guys were missing some key players. And it felt like
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: you really turned up the defensive intensity in the fourth quarter.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: How'd y'all feel about, about getting that dub in Brooklyn?
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: Exactly the same way. It was definitely ugly. It definitely
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: is not our preferred way to win games, but at
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: the end of the day, early in the season on
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: the road, picking up a win is never something like
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: anytime you get a win in this league, it's tough
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: enough to do. So you never want to turn your
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: head at it. We feel like we really dug deep
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: late in the game, which was really cool to see
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: as we're still developing our identity with the team. It
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: was awesome.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Sian, what's it like to go through this early part
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: of your career last year and now this year with Khan,
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: having been in college with Khan and now in the pros?
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: How meaningful is that to you guys?
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: It's huge, man. Con's a great dude. I mean, obviously
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: you guys see it, but it's kind of cool being
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: able to be with Con as we start our careers together.
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: Seeing the growth that we both had over the last
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: few years since I first met him when we first
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: got to school. I mean, Con's somebody who helps me
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: a lot. I feel like I try to help him
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: whenever I can. It's been great for both of us.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is interesting.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: You saw him, you know, you were, you were transferring
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: the year that he was entering Duke as a freshman.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: So you saw like that off season where he was like,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: all the buzz was about him, man, this con could
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: nipple kick a ball, but you've seen him then develop
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: and then become the dude that, and I know Cooper's
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: your boy too, but I'm sorry, con should have been
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: dang rookie of the year.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I'm still mad. But anyway, you saw him have this,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: this great rookie year.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Were you surprised at all by his NBA success immediately
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: or no?
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: I wasn't surprised. It's really just the consistency that he
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: carries himself with. That's just kind of the way that
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: I've seen Con operate. You mentioned that first summer when
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: he came in and all the buzz was about him,
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: and rightfully so because he had an incredible summer. And
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: then just throughout the year, he continued to step up
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: in different ways and different ways in the tournament. He
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: stepped up in different ways. So by the time we
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: were paired up again in the NBA, I feel like
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: I'd seen him in a lot of different situations. And
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: it was no surprise when he came out just being
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: himself in the NBA.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: See, we've marveled at how deep this roster is and
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: we look at it from a game perspective. But for
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: you guys to have this many guys that are capable
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: of being the rotation, how competitive are the practices and
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: how important is it every day to have all these
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: guys like this fighting for minutes?
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: Super competitive, and honestly, that's the part that makes us
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: all better, and that's something we've talked about from the
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: very beginning. It's just understanding that nothing's given and that
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: competing for everything, that means that anything that you get,
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: you truly earn because you know it wasn't given. You've
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: had to fight for it. And the competitiveness, that's one
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: of those things that it's part of our identity as
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: a team. It's part of who we want to be,
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: and we just got to start early because of how
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: much talent we have on the team.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: See, when I watch you play as aggressive as you are,
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: your physique, your strength, I look at you and I'm like, man,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: that dude could be a baller on the football field, too.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: I had read that you only played football one year
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: in high school.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Is that true? It seemed like you
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: could have killed it on the football field.
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but y'all got to remember, man, I was 13
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: years old. I can tell you I didn't look like this.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: at 13 13 was when I started getting taller and
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: taller and I just started like tackling my knees and
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: I didn't like that at all I don't blame you
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: basketball started to take my heart I don't.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Blame you about that, man. I played one year of basketball.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: I was trying to beg my dad to quit. And
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: he said, no way you're not quitting. But I get you.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: See, I watched the football players from the soccer field
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: and said, yeah, not for me.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I'm over here.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: What did you real quick for? I know we got
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: to let you go. I know you didn't shoot it
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: the way you wanted to the other night. But I
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: think in preseason, I think a lot of people notice, man,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: he's knocking down a lot of shots. And I think
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: they also notice something that, you know, last year would
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: be a point where I know you were you were
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: would struggle at times as a play in that point
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: guard in the NBA. And it seems like you had more,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: you know, summer and then. In the preseason, you had
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: some success with that. Are those the things you worked
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: on mainly, like ball handling, being able to play that point,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: and then shooting? Was that the summer activities for you?
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure. That was definitely a big part of
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: the summer. Ball handling and shooting is part of every summer,
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: not just my NBA career, but every part of my career.
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: That's something that for every player always has to improve
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: year after year. So it's nice that it aligned very
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: well this year. And then finishing in the paint. I
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: haven't done that at a super high level just yet,
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: but we spent a lot of time working on it
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: this summer. And it's kind of cool seeing those things
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: pay off in games.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: All right, man.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Well, hey, best of luck tonight. Best of luck moving
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: forward this season. And thanks for spending a few minutes
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: with us, man. We appreciate it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: Yep, always. Appreciate you guys.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: All right, there you go.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: That is Cian James from your Charlotte Hornets. Cool dude, man.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Very cool freaking dude.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. We come back on the Mac and Bone show.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: Drake May and Caleb Williams had a primetime showdown last night,
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: and it has us wondering.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Y'all all right over there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just everyone relax.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: I thought maybe a six-year-old got Willie P this time
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: on the text line.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Check your phone there. Willie P is— Oh, no.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Very, very upset. Oh, no. I was reading it while
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: I was talking.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Drake May and Caleb Williams had a primetime showdown last night,
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: and it has us wondering how Bryce compares to May
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: and Williams.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNT. We got so much to come, baby.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: We got so many things happening on this show. We
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: had a Bryce conversation we got to have now in
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: light of watching two other young studs play quarterback last night.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: We've got the Panther Up conversation. Is this a full-on
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Panther fan, Panther Up situation? How confident should we be?
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: They are getting Baker back, but they're banged up and
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: really struggling on offense. And then a little later than usual,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: the college football confidence conversation where I lock arms with
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Gamecock Nation, baby.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Going to be a moment. Boom. When is that?
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: 925.
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  Speaker 7: Today?
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: All of a sudden, I've got stomach bubbling here. Oh,
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: my goodness. As we always say on Friday, what could
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: go wrong?
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: It just makes so much sense the Gamecocks are getting
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: this dub, man. Vegas knows it, too.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Well, it did make sense. It did make sense. Why
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: don't you just, I mean, respectfully, stay away.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Just do everything to yourself, self. I should stay away.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm going to do? Well, no, apparently not.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm going to do, too? I'm going
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: to make it one of my picks in my challenge
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: against Picante. I got a challenge against Picante. I'm going
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: to ride them Gamecocks all the way to Picante embarrassment.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: Please don't cock-a-doodle-doo on me here either. Maybe I'll stop there.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: Maybe I'll stop there. I don't need you making rooster sounds.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: So, Bone, you brought up this conversation idea because we're all,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: although I will say, I mean, the app game was amazing.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: ECU game, amazing, even though they lost. I was more
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: locked in on those, but I had it on, you know,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: one of my screens online. the pretty damn entertaining game.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: And they both went over 300 yards, both Drake and
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams. And you said it, if Panther fans, you
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: said this yesterday, if Panther fans are watching this game,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: many of them will probably in their mind be comparing
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Bryce to those guys, just like it's done with Stroud
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: or so many young quarterbacks, especially the way Bryce is playing.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Maybe in the past, those comparisons weren't as much fun.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: But right now we can't get enough of comparing Bryce.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Well, they're not, they're not, they're not, this is not
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: like a, a topic that's like reaching anymore.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: It feels like it makes sense now.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Do you like, so when you watch the, like, do
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: you feel like Bryce has topped those guys or, I mean, he's,
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: he's at least right there. First of all, I think
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: he's played better than both those guys this year.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: He's been more consistent, I think. Plus Caleb got hurt.
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Um, He's at least right there in the mix. Like,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: they're peers to him now. It's not one of these
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: things where I'm like, oh, I wish I had one
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: of those young guys.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: Think about where the conversation about Stroud was like a
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: couple years ago. Stroud's playing good ball, but his good
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: ball is not near the level that Bryce Young is
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: at right now. I think that Bryce Young's ceiling ultimately
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: is higher than Drake Mays. So if I had to
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: just compare those two guys right there, right now I
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: would take Bryce Young over Drake Mays. Caleb Williams, to me,
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: is one where just being objective, I think Caleb Williams
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: still has a higher ceiling, although very close. And the
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: fact that we're talking about this is big. I still
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: think Caleb Williams just a little bit above Bryce. he's
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: also yeah a little bit.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Drake may would be the one i would be more
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: apt to take yeah i would go talking about a
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: guy in his second year that was where did he
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: finish in the mvp second second second in the mvp
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: in his second year and i listen i get it
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: that interception through last night in the end zone was
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: costly and not great i understand the way he played
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: at times in the playoffs and the way he started
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: this season but it's like Can you imagine Bryce finishing?
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: I guess we can, the way he's playing. Bryce finishing second.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: In the MVP. And he's big.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: But I also am at the point where I'm not
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: coveting anybody else's quarterback. Like, if Drake May ends up
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: being a bit better than Bryce, I don't think it's
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: going to be a ginormous advantage. If Caleb Williams ends
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: up being a bit better than Bryce, I don't think
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: it's going to be a ginormous advantage.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: Bryce moved into their neighborhood. They were chilling there, and
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: Bryce brought the moving van into the neighborhood.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Now I know someone's going to say, oh, it wasn't
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: the biggest moving van. I didn't say it was.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: But Bryce still brought his van in there and parked
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: it and moved it into his house. So let's enjoy
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: Bryce being with his new neighbors. Sizzle's got a problem
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: with us. Sizzle says, stop the Homer stuff. It's embarrassing.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: What is the homer saying that he's better than, what
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: did you say, better than Drake May?
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: Sizzle's the guy that two days ago told us how
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: wrong he was about Bryce Young and now how great
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Bryce Young is. So I've completely lost track of this
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: dude as a texter.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: I'll say this right now, Mac. Just don't read his text.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, I can't figure him out. He said, well,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: I'm going to read one right now. Caleb Williams and
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: Drake May are so far ahead of Bryce, not even close.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Not the way they're playing this year. Like if you
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: want to go to physical skill set, Drake Mays, obviously
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: your central casting, big, tall, you know, strong arm quarterback.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams runs better than Bryce. He's not ginormous himself, though.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? But I would say maybe
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: more arm strength.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Mack, I thought you said it the best.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 37:42
  Speaker 11: Those guys might be better quarterbacks. They might be better
• 37:46
  Speaker 11: than Bryce Young is today. We're no longer coveting what
• 37:49
  Speaker 11: those organizations have.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Not coveting thy neighbor, as the book says. Not coveting
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: thy neighbor's QB. I think that to.
• 37:56
  Speaker 11: Me is the difference. Still entering this year, as much
• 37:59
  Speaker 11: as we maybe believed in Bryce... We would be a
• 38:02
  Speaker 11: little bit honest and say, yeah, we maybe want what
• 38:04
  Speaker 11: New England or Chicago, some of these other organizations have.
• 38:07
  Speaker 11: The way Bryce Young has played so far this season,
• 38:10
  Speaker 11: I no longer feel that way. The way he's playing
• 38:12
  Speaker 11: right now, there's not a game that they walk into.
• 38:14
  Speaker 11: I don't feel confident we can't win.
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 38:15
  Speaker 11: Because of the way that he's playing. With that being said,
• 38:18
  Speaker 11: I would probably be where Bone is. I'd probably go
• 38:20
  Speaker 11: Caleb Williams 1, Bryce Young 2, Drake May 3. Me
• 38:24
  Speaker 11: and Flutter had a big knockdown argument last year about
• 38:27
  Speaker 11: Bryce Young and Drake May. I thought if you would
• 38:28
  Speaker 11: put Bryce Young in New England... Does he maybe finish
• 38:32
  Speaker 11: second in the MVP voting?
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think there would have been very
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: similar results. If Dragne would have been here, would he
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: have elevated Carolina? I don't think he would have. That's
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: just the way I feel.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: I will just put it this way. Like, y'all can
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: have your great quarterbacks. I feel like we have a
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: damn good quarterback, and let's do this.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: And if we lose, like, I just don't really want
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: to trade Bryce. Like, would I trade Bryce for Josh Allen? Yeah,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: you probably got me there.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Allen, Burrow, Mahomes. Yeah, like
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: you probably got me there.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: That's probably it though.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: But all these young guys right now, and I don't know,
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: maybe we'll look foolish.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe we'll end up looking foolish. Maybe one of those
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: guys will pull away.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: And many texters are saying it, like this texter right here,
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: 704 number, people could talk trash about Bryce in comparison
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: to these guys all they want to, but Bryce has
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: been better than both of them this season. And that's
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: kind of where I am. I'm not saying, Bowen, that
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: he will have better careers than both of these guys
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: or whatever. But like you said, he's in their neighborhood.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: And this year, I think he's been a bit better
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: than both of these dudes.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: H.O.A. Devlin says Drake May willed the Pats the Super Bowl.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: He didn't play well in the postseason or down the stretch.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: And let's also remember... If Bo Nix was healthy the
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: way he was playing up to the championship game, I
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: don't think the Patriots make the Super Bowl last year.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: They caught a big break there when they got to
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: play Jared Stidham in the AFC championship game.
• 39:52
  Speaker 11: There's an argument to be made that Drake may beat
• 39:55
  Speaker 11: up on a soft schedule last year. I don't necessarily
• 39:58
  Speaker 11: believe that narrative, but if you want to put that
• 40:01
  Speaker 11: out there, you look at what he did against really
• 40:04
  Speaker 11: good defenses, teams with a record above.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: 500. It's not all sunshine and rainbows.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 40:10
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: He's not, he's not perfect. There's no doubt. And I
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: don't think he's a finished product either. Jeff says, Fitty
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: is a Tar Heel sellout. Just completely sold out, Drake May.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: The guy's an objective journalist. He's a pro player now.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: What do you want to be like? Flounder and all
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: of a sudden be a New York sports fan that
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: worships a Boston team?
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Is that a better look? I guess Tar Heel fans?
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: No.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Duke Rules on the text line says, Morning, sports nerds.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Why compare?
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: What's the purpose? Comparisons are for nerds. Are you doing
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: a sports talk right now? He says, What's the comparison
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: of Dan Marino and Trent Dilfer? What?
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: One is a state monster. What does that mean? I
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: don't know. The other is a Super Bowl champ. Stat monster. Oh,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: stat monster. Which one would you want to be?
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: I can already tell you right now what the text
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: line is going to do to this guy.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: And I mean this as one of my own guys.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: If your name is Duke Rules.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: And you're calling people nerds, you're setting yourself up for
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: a major letdown here in a decade.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you right now.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Fitty sold out Drake May? You just sold out a Dookie.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, Fitty, I got to be honest. That doesn't
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: sound like a guy that's winning a whole lot of battles.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Probably not. Sizzle. My name is Duke Rules. Sizzle's back again.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: He's coming at me, so I'm coming at him.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Sizzle says, this radio content effing sucks. He liked us
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: two days ago. Sizzle is a guy that... I got
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: to be honest with you. Maybe not quite all. Those
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: beans aren't burning on the grill. He might be as
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: mad at us as Willie P is. And that's saying
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: something today. I don't know, man. Listen, compare. Many people
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: will say and I don't know who said it first.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: Comparison is a thief of joy. Many people will say
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: that when not wanting to compare. And I understand that.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: I do understand that. It is sports radio. It is a,
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: you know, you're at the bar with the fellas type show.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: And this is a bar with the fellas conversation. But ultimately,
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: if those two dudes end up better than Bryce, I'm
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: not shocked. But I'm telling you, I don't think Bryce,
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: like Bone said, will be in another neighborhood. I think
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: it'll be a street over.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: And I feel good about that. And, like, listen, Sam
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Darnold last year, pretty darn good quarterback.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: But.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: He won a Super Bowl because he was on a
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: great team and played really well. Bryce Young, to me,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: we can win a Super Bowl with Bryce Young if
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Dan Morgan builds a great team.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: I firmly believe that. Jaden Daniels right now can't find
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: the neighborhood. He's trying to figure out where he is.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: Dan Quinn's trying to get Navigator to do a GPS system.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: You want to go right, Daniels? Go right.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: No, go left.
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: Oh, man.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: We come back.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Does Baker playing change the way we feel about the game?
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: Should Lock City be an option for this one? And
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: all of us panther it up. Give me the growl, Matt.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7.