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33: B-roll - @expiredfilmclub’s “Action Man cam” plus June news headlines · The Photography & Video Show Podcast

0:09
David McClelland: Hello, welcome to the Photography and Video Show podcast B-roll.
0:13
David McClelland: It's me, David McClelland.
0:14
David McClelland: It's June 2026, and yes, we're back over the summer months because photography and filmmaking don't take a holiday, so why should we?
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David McClelland: On the first Thursday of the next couple of months, we'll be back with these minisodes with camera and kit news headlines and some never-seen before clips of our incredible guest photographers and filmmaking pros.
0:35
David McClelland: Rest assured, we will be back with season four of the regular podcast with all of our news guests and analysts and new feature interviews from August, building all the way through to the next in-person photography and video show at the XL London, taking place between Saturday the 13th, and Tuesday the 16th of March 2027.
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David McClelland: Much more on that to come, but first let's take a look at this month's news headlines.
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David McClelland: Here are the news headlines for June 2026, and it's been a busy few weeks for camera launches with big brands including Canon, Sony, and Panasonic all releasing some eye-catching new kit.
1:14
David McClelland: Canon announced the EOS R6 V, a distinctive full-frame 7K OpenGate Video First hybrid, which would have the Sony FX3 firmly in its viewfinder if only it had a viewfinder.
1:27
David McClelland: Meanwhile, Sony's A7 line got a bump with the A7R6, proving photographers can get both high resolution and high speed.
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David McClelland: Its fully stacked sensor lets you shoot up to 30 67 megapixel frames per second, but with current memory prices, could you afford to?
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David McClelland: Elsewhere, Panasonic celebrated 25 years of Lumix by unwrapping the L10, a micro 43rd compact with fast, fixed 24-75mm equivalent zoom lens, elegant LX100 inspired body, and, well what do you know, a viewfinder.
2:01
David McClelland: Is DJI's Pocket Gimbal Cam Monopoly finally coming to an end?
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David McClelland: At the Cannes Film Festival, it teased the Osmo Pocket 4P with its dual lens head and filmmaker-friendly 17-stop dynamic range.
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David McClelland: But DJI will have done a double take at Insta360's new Luna Ultra with its strikingly similar twin optics and neat detachable screen and controls.
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David McClelland: Meanwhile, in Analogue Film News, with the FIFA World Cup only a free kick away, Ilford Photo has released collectors' editions of its best-selling black and white 35mm film stocks, featuring packaged photography from none other than friend of the podcast, Expired Film Club's Miles MyGof Harris.
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David McClelland: Those are this month's news headlines.
2:47
David McClelland: You're up to date.
3:22
SPEAKER_01: So Expired Film Club, I suppose, is uh an online I guess projects might be the overall word for it, but it's it's sort of it's as I'm known in the social media world.
3:32
SPEAKER_01: I started it in lockdown.
3:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I so to throw back to pre-lockdown and everything else, I worked in the music industry for a long time, and obviously when the pandemic hit, uh that all ground to a halt and I was furloughed.
3:47
SPEAKER_01: So I uh really got back into film photography as a real sort of passion.
3:52
SPEAKER_01: I hadn't done film in in a while.
3:53
SPEAKER_01: I I shot stills and video in the music industry digitally, obviously, and uh yeah, but then the lockdown hit, you know, looking for things to do.
4:00
SPEAKER_01: So I found an old uh Olympus OM10 on Facebook Marketplace from somebody near me and just delved right into that and got really interested in exploring, you know, all different types of film stocks as people do when they you know they get into photography, uh film photography anyway.
4:13
SPEAKER_01: Um, and so I I I found a real interest in uh old vintage expired films.
4:18
SPEAKER_01: I just love the the designs of the boxes and the feel and the fact that there were so many different uh film stocks of weird and wonderful variations you could try.
4:26
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I just got really into the idea of just experimenting with finding really old you know roles of film and seeing what I could get.
4:32
SPEAKER_01: So I started documenting my journey in this way through social media called the account Expired Film Club.
4:39
SPEAKER_01: Um, and it all just kind of gained gained traction from there.
4:42
SPEAKER_01: It was amazing.
4:42
SPEAKER_01: I I I gained a following a lot faster than I could ever have imagined.
4:46
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think on TikTok I hit a million followers in in about the first year I was doing things really.
4:52
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
4:53
SPEAKER_01: Um and so to start with, I was just uh I've got like a typical sort of style of video that I do where I show a kind of first-person POV of me hopefully somewhere particularly interesting, uh loading uh an interesting role of film, whether it's expired or fresh, um, and then showing the process of you know the box, taking out the box, showing the camera I'm using, putting it in the camera, and then showing the view through the viewfinder and then the results at the end.
5:18
SPEAKER_01: And obviously, with the expired film, it's quite random what you might get, so every everyone was different.
5:22
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, so I I started doing that and um being a lover of sports myself uh and music as well.
5:29
SPEAKER_01: I go to a lot of sports games, particularly football is my kind of uh my choice sport, really, I suppose.
5:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, and uh I would go often with my younger brother Dylan, who's also into shooting this film, and we take pointed shoot cameras and stuff like that into the crowd, and um I would do some bits of my content when we were at football games as well.
5:49
SPEAKER_01: So, like show again, showing myself learning role film and then the results through the viewfinder.
5:54
SPEAKER_01: And through that, uh I was very lucky it you know, some of my content went down really well online, and I got approached by sports clubs to then start doing it for them uh professionally.
6:04
SPEAKER_01: Um luckily I had a lot of the professional film gear that I needed, so um uh my camera of choice these days I've got two.
6:12
SPEAKER_01: I use a Canon F1 a lot and a Canon EOS 1v, which is which is beautiful.
6:17
SPEAKER_01: Uh and I luckily had the big telephoto lenses and things that I need to use for for that sort of thing.
6:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and so I I started getting invited down to to sports games and now somehow I call this my career.
6:29
David McClelland: In terms of the image output, you know, the the name is Expired Film Club.
6:35
David McClelland: You are working with some film that maybe you don't know where it came from or or what state it's going to be in.
6:41
David McClelland: Yeah.
6:41
David McClelland: Um does that does that kind of give you a bit of jeopardy?
6:46
David McClelland: You know, you don't really know what's gonna come out.
6:48
David McClelland: I mean, that's the whole thing with film photography anyway, but you you're shooting even more on the edge there when you've got film that could be doing something that renders it um, well, if if not altogether uh useful, but you know, certainly uh not quite what you intended when you took the shots.
7:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh there is the limit of that, absolutely.
7:08
SPEAKER_01: What I tend to do now, obviously, when I'm doing these these bigger sports shoes professionally is to make sure that I've got plenty of film that I know I can rely on and get results out of.
7:16
SPEAKER_01: And I always bring some some weird stuff just to see if uh if I can get some some decent results out of it.
7:22
SPEAKER_01: Because there's always a fun story there.
7:23
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's um it's been nice recently what what I've done as well.
7:26
SPEAKER_01: I use loads of very old cameras as well.
7:29
SPEAKER_01: And I've got this camera from 1897 that I found at an antique store that still works, it's amazing.
7:33
SPEAKER_01: And I managed to adapt it to take uh 120 film, which you can get readily nowadays.
7:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, and that I mean it's this crazy thing, it folds out, it's got these big bellows that you pull out like this.
7:43
SPEAKER_01: And the only way you can tell what you're focusing on is the the bellows have a little metal arrow that points to how far away in you know feet and inches you're focusing.
7:50
SPEAKER_01: There's got this little range finder little mirror in the top.
7:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, and so uh I yeah, using stuff like that I find really fun.
7:57
SPEAKER_01: I went to do a shoot in Sweden recently with a team who had a they had the special centenary kit that they released, and they really wanted me to take it on this old camera.
8:04
SPEAKER_01: But again, at that in that moment, uh what they really wanted of me was to take the team photo before the game of them in this hundred-year-old kit using this hundred-year-old camera.
8:14
SPEAKER_01: Um, and so obviously that's so they you know they shake their hands before the games, they come and they they stand.
8:20
SPEAKER_01: Uh what I had my brother with me for this shoe as well, and we had to measure out how far away from me they needed to stand so that where I could set the focus.
8:27
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, look down through the to do photo, take one photo, and then the goalkeeper was like, okay, that's it, and they run off.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: And so I was stood there and I was like, I've come all this way, I've taken one photo and I've got no idea if it's in focus.
8:39
SPEAKER_01: So that was a nerve-wracking one.
8:41
SPEAKER_01: And like again, that was we have one where I was thinking, you know, if I if if this doesn't come out right, then uh I'm a bit screwed.
8:48
SPEAKER_01: But uh, there's there are moments like that.
8:50
SPEAKER_01: I do take a lot of expired roles to games now, but um they're always best when you use them in uh like bright conditions.
8:57
SPEAKER_01: So typically an afternoon game that's like got full sun, you'll be able to get some sort of good results out of it.
9:02
SPEAKER_01: But I always make sure I've got lots of other fresh film and other bits of pieces that I know I'll get results out of as well when I do a shoot.
9:07
David McClelland: Have I seen you shoot with an action man before?
9:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you have.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: Um I have a lot of.
9:14
David McClelland: For anybody who hasn't seen that, try and describe what uh what this action man films is.
9:18
SPEAKER_01: It originally is an Action Man doll.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's it's it's it's adapted so that his in his back you can take the back off and you can insert a a cartridge of 110 film.
9:29
SPEAKER_01: I actually have it here.
9:30
SPEAKER_01: Do you want me to get it?
9:31
SPEAKER_01: It's behind me.
9:32
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, please do.
9:34
SPEAKER_01: Uh there might have to be some pixelation on this because I've I've actually lost his trousers.
9:39
SPEAKER_01: So it's um sorry about that.
9:43
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, here he is.
9:44
SPEAKER_01: So you can see in the back, that's where the cartridge of film goes, and then in the front, that that's the lens there.
9:51
SPEAKER_01: So you undertake a photo.
9:54
David McClelland: So for anyone who's watching, so so for anyone who's listening but not watching, this is your Commonwealth Garden action man, but he's got what looks like a back to the future camcorder on his shoulder uh and filming.
10:09
David McClelland: But the actual lens for the camera that you're shooting with is in his chest piece rather than the top camera.
10:15
David McClelland: But that looks like really good.
10:17
David McClelland: It's great.
10:17
David McClelland: What were the images like out of it?
10:19
SPEAKER_01: But uh that's part of the that's part of the beauty.
10:21
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I did look a bit like a bit a bit weird wandering around my local town taking photos with an action man as I was getting a coffee, but there we are.
10:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I love stuff like that.
10:30
SPEAKER_01: I love yeah, all the weird and wonderful cameras.
10:32
SPEAKER_01: I've actually um I've got a Game Boy camera um that I I was gonna mention that.
10:37
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I I love to use again.
10:39
SPEAKER_01: Excuse me.
10:41
SPEAKER_01: The um the quality out of it is atrocious, but um it's really good fun to use.
10:47
SPEAKER_01: And when I when I take that out of games, it always I always get comments from people, you know, saying, oh, you know, that looks really cool.
10:53
SPEAKER_01: It's um it's amazing actually, because I think uh I might be proved wrong on this, but I saw something online that it was technically the first ever commercially available digital camera because it was released in like 1998, possibly.
11:06
SPEAKER_01: Gosh.
11:06
SPEAKER_01: So I might be getting my my dates wrong, but yeah, um apparently so it's like I think it's the equivalent of 0.3 megapixels or something around that.
11:14
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, it's all in grayscale, but yeah, it can be it can be very fun if if you can use it.
11:19
SPEAKER_01: I actually I was doing some stuff for uh Honda racing recently at the British Superbike Championship.
11:24
SPEAKER_01: I took that with me and did some stuff there, and it was it was a lot of fun.
11:28
David McClelland: Finally, you mentioned all of that travel.
11:30
David McClelland: There's a bit of a challenge that comes with traveling with film that digital photographers won't have had to experience for uh a while.
11:38
David McClelland: Uh, and that's taking the the film through airports and and the scanners that are in there.
11:43
David McClelland: What have you learned about how to travel safely with film?
11:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so if you're traveling with film, uh film has an ISO, which is a uh it's a sensitivity rating.
11:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure you know all photographers know what ISO is and means.
11:56
SPEAKER_01: Um the higher the ISO of the film, the more sensitive it is, and so uh it can get damaged by X-ray scanners, and particularly nowadays, there's uh some of the newer airports have got these CT scanners in, and they they really do damage film.
12:08
SPEAKER_01: So um it's best always to try and circumnavigate the X-ray scanners.
12:13
SPEAKER_01: And so what I tend to do is uh carry a bag with all my film in so that the the security staff can see it very clearly.
12:20
SPEAKER_01: When you get to the scanners, politely ask whoever the security is if they wouldn't mind hand searching your film.
12:28
SPEAKER_01: I have mostly experienced positive um interactions with this, so like most of the time they're they're happy to do it.
12:37
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes they'll say, Oh, um it's only if you've got the film that's 800 ISO or above, will we hand search it?
12:44
SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
12:45
David McClelland: So they have that degree of knowledge then some of them.
12:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the thing is it's it's not 100% true.
12:50
SPEAKER_01: So like a lot of yeah, a lot of the staff will say, Don't worry, if your film's 800 ISO or below, it won't get damaged by going through a scanner.
12:57
SPEAKER_01: And it's not it's not really true.
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SPEAKER_01: And the more times it goes through a scanner, the more damage it can get.
13:02
SPEAKER_01: So in my experience, if you've got like 200 ISO film um and it goes through one of the older X-ray scanners a couple of times, you're not really going to be able to notice the damage.
13:13
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, it it it there's lots of variables, and uh so my my rule of thumb is if I can, I'll I'll get all my film hand searched um every time I go through security.
13:24
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes they'll say um only give us 800 ISO and above.
13:28
SPEAKER_01: And so with that in mind, I always think it's a good idea to carry at least one roll of like uh so you can get 3,200 ISO black and white film.
13:35
SPEAKER_01: Uh and it's always a good idea to carry one of those and say, Oh, but look, I've got I've got I've got 3,200 ISO film.
13:40
SPEAKER_01: And that tends to say, they'll tend to say, okay, we'll we'll hand search it.
13:44
SPEAKER_01: Other times, yeah, they'll just take the stuff that's higher ISO and put the other stuff through.
13:47
SPEAKER_01: But like I say, with the older X-ray scanners, you could you could probably get away with it once or twice.
13:53
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I wouldn't do it any more times than that if you can avoid it.
13:56
SPEAKER_01: However, if you go to an airport that's got the new CT scanners, absolutely try and insist that they get hand searched because those CT scanners will bore through everything.
14:04
SPEAKER_01: And actually, on that, I I've been to a few airports that have security scanners.
14:08
SPEAKER_01: I think, as far as I'm aware in the UK at least, the staff are trained to know that um it doesn't matter what ISO the film is, they'll hand search it for you.
14:16
SPEAKER_01: So um that's a good rule of thumb.
14:18
SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, you can get these cool um, they're called donkey uh bags, you can get them on Amazon, and they're like lead-lined bags, and it it uh at the very very worst, stick some film in in that bag, and then it can go through the scanner and it won't get as damaged as well.
14:32
David McClelland: It's like a kind of Faraday K junk.
14:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, kind of, yeah.
14:35
David McClelland: Yeah.
14:36
David McClelland: Oh, fantastic.
14:37
David McClelland: Good tips there.
14:38
David McClelland: Thank you for sharing those.
14:39
David McClelland: So, what's next for you and Expired Film Club then?
14:43
David McClelland: You've built up this terrific following online across Instagram and and TikTok.
14:48
David McClelland: Uh you are getting invited to these fantastic sporting events.
14:53
David McClelland: Um, what where do you where do you hope the project will take you next?
14:57
David McClelland: Or are you just on riding the wave and and seeing where it goes next?
15:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a little bit of that, I think.
15:03
SPEAKER_01: Riding the wave.
15:03
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it's great.
15:04
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, I've got goals and I've got dreams.
15:07
SPEAKER_01: I'd love to, you know, one day possibly shoot something like the World Cup final on film and um you know, do a lot of those those you know, really massive event events like that.
15:18
SPEAKER_01: I guess um for the future I just yeah, I just want to continue doing what I'm doing.
15:22
SPEAKER_01: You know, if I if I start to become known as that guy who you know documents the sporting stuff on on film and um and I kind of go all over the place.
15:31
SPEAKER_01: I I mean I'm very lucky to be travelling a lot anyway at the moment um with all of that.
15:36
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, just really, really yeah, riding the wave, you know, the more the more I can do the better.
15:41
SPEAKER_01: I I just I love it so much.
15:43
SPEAKER_01: I I I I really embrace it all, especially the different sport stuff that I do, you know.
15:48
SPEAKER_01: Uh it's not just football that I that I do nowadays, which is great.
15:51
SPEAKER_01: I've just I literally got back a couple days ago from Barcelona where I was shooting some sailing.
15:55
SPEAKER_01: Um wow, which was which is great fun.
15:58
SPEAKER_01: What else have I got coming up?
15:59
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm trying to think.
16:00
SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, I've done motorbike racing F1, golf, tennis, um, lots of random stuff.
16:06
SPEAKER_01: And I I love the variation of it.
16:08
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I think I think possibly just yeah, just white run the wave and uh carry on going.
16:12
SPEAKER_01: I just want to do as much of this as I possibly can.
16:15
SPEAKER_01: Um and yeah, fingers crossed that we we keep we keep going up upwards and we'll see where everything takes us, I guess.
16:22
David McClelland: Miles, thank you so much for joining us today.
16:24
David McClelland: All the best.
16:25
SPEAKER_01: Thank you very much.
16:26
SPEAKER_01: I've really enjoyed it.
16:26
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
16:29
David McClelland: Huge thanks to Miles.
16:31
David McClelland: Do look up Expired Film Club Online, you can't miss it.
16:34
David McClelland: And also make sure that you follow Miles's socials to see if he did it indeed manage to manifest himself a trip to shoot at the Football World Cup finals this summer.
16:42
David McClelland: There's a lot more that we spoke about as well, so go back to season two, episode one, I think August 2024, and listen to the full episode.
16:51
David McClelland: That is all for this month.
16:52
David McClelland: It's been great to be back, and we'll be back on the first Thursday of next month for another mini stode with the month's camera news headlines and some more never seen before interview clips from the podcast.
17:03
David McClelland: Finally, make sure that you put a mark in your diary for the London in-person photography and video show.
17:10
David McClelland: It's taking place at the XL from the 13th to the 16th of March 2027.
17:14
David McClelland: Much more on that, of course, in due course.
17:17
David McClelland: But for now, from all of us here.
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David McClelland: Bye bye.