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- 0:00A tweak to the Elections Act that the Liberals introduced last week could allow for
- 0:05about eighty members of Parliament to qualify for a House of Commons pension. The
- 0:11Minister unveiled changes to the Election Act last Wednesday, including expanded days for advanced
- 0:17voting and an easier process for mail in ballots, but it would also move
- 0:22the current proposed fix election day from October twentieth to October twenty seventh, which
- 0:29would, through that one week delay, have significant impact on MP's pensions because
- 0:35any MP elected in twenty nineteen would need to have reached that six year mark
- 0:39if the election was held on October twentieth of twenty twenty five. But we'll
- 0:42have to reach that cutoff, but will have reached that cut off on October
- 0:46twenty seventh, the new proposed date. Joining me right now to discuss this
- 0:51change is the head of political Science at the University of Windsor and full disclosure,
- 0:56my former professor, Lydia Milgin. How are you doing today? We
- 1:00all thanks? How are you? John? Hey? I'm doing well.
- 1:02You know, I I think this is why people feel cynical about politics,
- 1:07and you know, there there's a there's a whole list of reasons that we
- 1:10could go into about why people feel cynical. I know, I'm feeling pretty
- 1:14cynical about this. I look at this change here, and you know,
- 1:17typically what we see at you know, the municipal level, when counselors end
- 1:21up voting to raise salaries, it usually comes in effect for the next term.
- 1:25Uh, this is uh, this is different for that, and you're
- 1:29going to end up with you know, conservatives are in first place. They
- 1:32be receiving the most amount of pensions with this, but the liberals are in
- 1:34a reasonably a close second place. This. This is voting to benefit yourselves.
- 1:41It certainly feels that way. It seems awfully strange that they are using
- 1:46I think they're saying that it's because it falls on a high holiday for a
- 1:49particularly religious group. But my recollection is that that didn't prevent them from changing
- 1:55the election date last time around, because it fell around a Jewish holidays.
- 2:00So it seems awfully convenient, and it also seems odd that they didn't move
- 2:02the date, I don't know, a week earlier. If they're concerned about
- 2:07a religious holiday, yes, you could go a week after, but you
- 2:10could also go a week prior equally legitimate, I would think, so,
- 2:15Yeah, it does smack a little bit of self service. How the Liberals
- 2:21are. They're down in the polls right now. I think that the current
- 2:24polling shows that if an election were held today, conservative leader player a Poliyev
- 2:29opposition leader would end up winning a huge majority, something like thirty to forty
- 2:34seats. But what we're looking at here with it beat with the Liberals being
- 2:40so you know, low in the polling, this would be a way to
- 2:45secure the pensions for any Liberals who lose the election, well right, and
- 2:51it also secures that the pension for any Liberals choosing not to run again.
- 2:57And that's another component of it, you know, just because you you know,
- 3:00there's potentials you losing. But a lot I suspect that you know a
- 3:04lot of them will see the writing on the wall and not seek reelection and
- 3:07it would still secure their pensions. I mean again, a lot can happen
- 3:12between now and then. The NDP could figure out that this coalition isn't working
- 3:15for them and they could trigger an earlier election. But the way it stands,
- 3:20it does seem like they're going to hold on as long as they can
- 3:23and then the optics are terrible because it just opens the door for the Conservatives
- 3:29say, well, this is your pension election. You guys don't really care
- 3:31about what's good for Canadians. You only care about what's good for yourself.
- 3:36So it's a very cynical move. But it's almost like they want to lose
- 3:39when they make these kinds of mistakes. Well, the Liberals better be hoping
- 3:44that nobody's listening to you right now, because the pension election has a pretty
- 3:46good ring to it. Quite frankly, you know, this also smacks as
- 3:52I don't know, not hypocritical. But Prime Minister Trudeau wanted electoral reform in
- 3:58twenty fifteen. I interviewed him and he made his preference that he wanted ranked
- 4:01ballots, and you know, they couldn't get a Parliamentary committee consensus on it,
- 4:03so they dropped the whole electoral reform. The Minister LeBlanc here is saying
- 4:09that this is about strengthening democracy. This really has the feeling like it's going
- 4:14to upset absolutely everyone. People who go, this is an electoral reform,
- 4:17and then people who are going, you're just benefiting yourselves absolutely. I know
- 4:21this is in no respects anything like electoral reform. And if people are reminded
- 4:28of the twenty fifteen election, he did say that was going to be the
- 4:30last election under first past the post, and we've had two cents there then
- 4:33that have continued first past the post. He was a little bit disingenuous with
- 4:38that because when he said electoral reform, people heard proportional representation, where in
- 4:44fact, as you rightly point out, he was only interested in rank ballot,
- 4:46and so when nobody agreed with him that rank ballot was good for anybody
- 4:49other than the liberals, he then said, there's no appetite for change.
- 4:54This is not electoral reform. This is just tinkering around the margins, which
- 4:58we've done at Ausium. We're always messing around with, you know, or
- 5:02advanced voting, making it easier to vote, change in the hours, things
- 5:06like that. But that's really got nothing to do with changing the electoral system,
- 5:11per se. Last question, not a curveball. It's still in the
- 5:14same vein of things. When you look at this federal government right now and
- 5:16the positioning of the opposition leader, what's your read of just the landscape?
- 5:24You know, it's you know, I look at the polls. I just
- 5:26I look at conversations. I'm actually shocked when I'm talking just to regular people
- 5:30who say they're not even considering voting liberal. And these are people who previously
- 5:35were longtime liberal supporters. The appetite for change is palpable, and I think
- 5:41the polls reflect that. And I think, you know, there is a
- 5:45sense that the governments tend to have an expiry date, and I think we're
- 5:48I think we're passed the best buy date for this government. And the longer
- 5:53they stay on, the longer they sort of class to this power, the
- 5:57worse it's going to be for them, quite frankly, and especially mister Trudeau.
- 6:00So it's not looking good. He's just not you know, he's if
- 6:03you think about twenty fifteen, how good he was at connecting with Canadians,
- 6:08how there was this huge, long, extended honeymoon. His popularity was just
- 6:13unfathomable, and he is just crashed so far back. I can't imagine how
- 6:17he can pull his party back from that without actually resigning. That might be
- 6:24the best thing for him, because at least we give somebody else a chance
- 6:27to rehabilitate. Put it, put a new message, new policy, in
- 6:31the in the in the window to help forestall Pierre Paulyev. And so the
- 6:38question isn't you know whether or not Polyiav is going to form the next government,
- 6:42but just how strong of a majority he's actually going to have. Will
- 6:45it be a ten seat majority or a forty seat majority? That's what yeh
- 6:49yeah, okay, hey, you know, thank you so much for your
- 6:51time Lydia. It's always a pleasure, and I'm sure we'll get to talk
- 6:55more about this government at some point soon. Yes, well, thanks John,
- 6:59I was talking to you. Thank you so much. Lady Milgin is
- 7:00a professor at the University of Windsor as well as the head of the Political
- 7:04Science department and my former professor as well.