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Choppin it Up with Coach Krispy Kreme - Age Group Semifinals and What's up in Europe · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  And we're live.
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  What's going on?
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  It is Scott and Tristan.
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  We are chopping it up with
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  Coach Krispy Kreme.
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  We still don't have any
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  bumpers for this show yet,
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  but we'll get there.
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  We'll get there.
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  It's in the middle of like
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  the busiest season.
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  This company does every year
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  trying to interview as many
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  semifinalists as possible.
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  Um,
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  and of course with the compressed season,
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  they don't give us a lot of time.
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  So it has been one thing after another,
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  but I get to hang out with
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  my friend Tristan.
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  What's going on, brother?
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  Not much, man.
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  Busy, busy as well.
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  The compressed season does,
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  does make it a wild time of the year.
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  Yeah,
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  not only do we have to interview
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  everybody,
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  we have to watch the stuff so
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  that we can talk about it
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  and stay educated on everything.
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  Then I go on this game show
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  and I keep winning.
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  Yesterday I thought I was a dud.
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  Did you win?
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  And I won.
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  And now I'm going on to the finals.
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  Let's go.
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  Dude,
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  I was sick as a dog yesterday during
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  that half hour.
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  Couldn't remember words, couldn't remember,
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  you know.
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  Yeah.
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  And somehow, I think the six was in.
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  I gave Peter just enough
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  money to get him to the top.
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  Yeah.
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  That's why I didn't win the
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  finals this week.
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  Oh, it's this week?
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  This coming week.
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  Oh, this coming week.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Against Colton and Kiefer.
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  Ooh, tough crowd.
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  Yeah,
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  definitely not going to be the most
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  popular guy in the joint there.
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  I think you could take him.
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  I think you could take him.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, Colton can throw some haymakers,
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  man.
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  He can.
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  So can Kiefer.
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  Like, it's going to be heavy hitters week.
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  Does he give you the points
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  y'all are going to talk about in advance,
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  like a day or anything like that?
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  Usually the evening before.
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  Okay.
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  But this week,
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  he gave them to us the evening before.
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  Then his wife had a baby.
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  So we had to wait an extra 24 hours.
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  Gotcha.
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  Yeah.
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  That's cool, though.
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  That's cool.
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  I need to go back and watch that one.
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  I didn't get to catch that one yesterday.
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  Yeah.
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  I,
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  I was actually in third going into the
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  last question.
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  Wow.
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  So you just dropped a bomb.
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  Well, they asked about media passes.
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  Oh, he gave you a softball.
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  Pretty much like that is all
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  I've been thinking about
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  for the last two weeks.
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  So yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Are you, uh,
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  is there anything new with that?
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  Are you planning on going anywhere or.
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  I really have to make the
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  decision by tomorrow.
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  I'm not going to West Coast.
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  I did secure a local
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  photographer at West Coast
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  to be able to get us shots
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  of people so that we could
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  post winners of events.
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  Holly's in the chat.
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  Holly can do her leaderboard
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  magic with a little cooler
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  graphics because we'll have
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  pictures live from the event.
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  And then when we do recap shows,
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  we'll have lots of stuff to pull up.
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  Nice.
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  So I've done that for West
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  coast and I've got to make
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  the decision by tomorrow,
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  whether I'm going to Knoxville or not.
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  Well, if you go to Knoxville,
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  I'll see you there.
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  Yeah.
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  So, so I mean,
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  some of the people I've
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  gotten to know over the years,
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  like are going to be, and I,
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  this is my favorite time.
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  I was telling Holly today on text,
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  like this is my favorite
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  time of the year.
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  I love semifinals more than the games.
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  Yeah, I could see that.
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  I think, one,
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  we interview all these athletes, right?
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  So I have a clear
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  understanding of who's on the floor.
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  I know people in every heat,
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  and so it makes it a very
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  big rooting thing for me
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  inside because I don't
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  externally do that because
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  I don't want to show favoritism,
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  but you get to know these
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  people and you want them to do well.
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  And then the tension at semis, I think,
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  is much greater than the games.
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  Because so many people's
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  goals are making the games.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  Once you get to the games, there's like,
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  there's like half the field
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  is just glad they're there.
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  Yeah.
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  They're,
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  they're going to maximize their
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  own personal performance,
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  but they're not.
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  And they want to do is, you know,
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  they want to get as far as they can,
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  but it's,
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  they know they're not
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  necessarily vying for a top 10,
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  but with this year with
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  three events on Sunday,
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  And all execution-style events,
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  the tension on Sunday is
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  going to be through the freaking roof.
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  I do enjoy that there is
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  three events on Sunday.
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  From a programming perspective,
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  I think it's cool.
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  I can also say I won't enjoy
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  that when I'm there.
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  Right.
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  But I do think it's kind of
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  cool that they changed it
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  from the traditional 2-2-2
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  You have one big workout
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  Friday for the Indies,
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  and then you get to go home,
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  get it together, come back.
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  You have a pretty big day-ish on Saturday,
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  and then Sunday is like, who wants it?
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  Yeah.
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  I know this was none of the
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  topics we discussed we were
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  going to talk about,
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  but I like just the flow of
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  having the conversation with you.
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  And I'm going to ask you a
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  question about the programming.
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  And I don't want you to, like,
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  this is not about hints, tips, tricks,
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  crap like that.
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  So I had Saxon on Monday.
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  Okay.
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  And he said that the first three tests,
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  so Friday and Saturday,
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  are fitness tests.
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  Straight up fitness tests.
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  One, two, and three.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  The last three on Sunday are
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  all execution.
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  Four, five.
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  I mean, I see why he would say that.
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  Yeah.
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  There's a baseline
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  prerequisite of fitness to all of them.
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  But I think what he might
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  have been alluding to,
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  if I had to look in deeper, is one, two,
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  and three,
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  you can really make those hurt.
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  like the,
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  the threshold for just discomfort
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  to push your fitness is there.
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  So you can just really dig in, you know,
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  that front squat workout,
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  that run workout, obviously.
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  And for most people, even the legless bike,
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  you know, especially the men, like,
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  are you going to bike three
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  RPMs faster than you want to,
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  or are you going to sandbag
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  this bike and not get the
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  placing you want?
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  And then I think to his point for the,
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  Depending on if we do get a curveball,
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  whatever,
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  probably a little more execution.
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  You definitely have to mind
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  your P's and Q's on the rower.
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  You could overextend there.
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  And then five, of course,
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  is an execution workout.
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  You can afford to miss a snatch,
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  but you really don't want
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  to miss a snatch.
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  And then definitely six is
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  definitely one of those ones where
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  You have to bike the pace
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  that you can bike to do
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  what you need to do on the muscle-ups.
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  And I think potentially 72
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  feet is long enough that –
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  and depending on how they structure it,
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  is it 28s unbroken or 24s
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  or whatever it would be unbroken,
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  we might see some people –
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  not make a distance because
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  they didn't break for a
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  quick break right so I i
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  see what he's saying with
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  that and I would agree with
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  that I think one two and
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  three especially number two
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  and one are very very very
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  metabolic tests like they
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  just you cannot hide your
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  fitness in those workouts
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  yeah especially at race intensity
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  Did you get to watch Europe this morning?
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  Ish.
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  I scrolled through – I
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  listened slash watched to a
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  little bit of the men doing one,
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  and then I kind of scrubbed
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  the video on –
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  the teams for one because
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  Madison and Taylor's team
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  are running through one again today.
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  And I wanted to give them some, Hey,
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  let's do this.
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  Let's try that, et cetera.
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  Learning from some of those
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  teams who have already went.
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  So I'll be flat on it.
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  I've only watched the
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  individual stuff today
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  because I was enamored by
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  the Scotty Scheffler
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  incident at Valhalla this morning.
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  I have no idea.
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  You have no idea.
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  So, you know,
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  he's the number one golfer in the world.
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  Yes.
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  There was an accident
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  outside Valhalla where a tragic accident.
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  A man died.
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  A shuttle bus hit a pedestrian.
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  And so traffic was shut down.
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  Oh, man.
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  scotty scheffler was trying
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  to get into valhalla um he
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  was two cars back of the
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  entrance so he pulled over
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  to the median to pull
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  around the corner to get in
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  a police officer yelled for
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  him to stop his story is he
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  didn't hear him cop yell
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  stop doesn't he the cop
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  attaches himself to the car
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  and starts beating on it
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  with his flashlight
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  asks Scotty to roll down the
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  window he complies he
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  reaches and opens the door
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  pulls Schreffler out cuffs
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  him slams him up against
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  the car and takes him
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  downtown to process him
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  whoa and the more that's
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  coming out from that the
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  worse it's looking that's wild yeah
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  It's like a series of unfortunate events,
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  one on top of another.
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  And what's crazy is Jeff
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  Darlington from ESPN
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  witnessed the entire thing
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  and has cell phone footage
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  of a lot of it.
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  There's always a camera on.
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  And then I can't remember his name.
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  I don't follow golf super closely,
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  but the caddy that's now a reporter.
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  Okay.
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  he was saying that in the
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  locker room other golfers
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  were said they attempted
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  the exact same thing and
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  were given free way to to
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  get into the club to check
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  in conspiracy yeah I love
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  it I love it so so I was
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  kind of like following that
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  a little bit because it was
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  big drama and then but so I
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  watched the individual and
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  and one thing I'm going to
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  ask you is the women there
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  were some that chose to go touch and go
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  others didn't and on the
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  men's side nobody chose to
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  go touch and go does that
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  make sense to you yeah
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  because 155 is lighter for
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  the girls than 185 for the
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  men okay 125 or 125 yeah
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  sorry I was thinking about
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  event too um yeah 125 to 185 is
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  more women can just handle
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  that a little bit better.
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  And it's, there's even, you know,
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  consistency issues within
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  CrossFit zone programming
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  because the men's first bar
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  of the snatch ladder is 185
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  and the women's bar is 135.
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  So like, what are we doing here, guys?
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  So it doesn't,
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  it doesn't surprise me terribly much.
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  I would be curious to see
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  how the women who did
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  uh touch and go like I don't
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  know I know gabby won that
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  event if I'm not mistaken
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  barely did she go touch and
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  go the whole way no yeah
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  see kringle did kringle
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  finished three three
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  seconds behind her wow but
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  kringle had the lead the
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  entire race and gabby got
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  her on the run at the end no gab well i
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  i think gabby got her
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  incrementally like on three
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  four and five on the on the
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  cleans and then it looked
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  really good on the uh like
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  she got her really good on
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  the last run like they came
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  in almost together and they
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  almost picked up the bar at
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  the exact same time gotcha
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  um and kringle and then get
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  at that point gabby said
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  I'm going touch and go
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  Right, right.
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  And Kringle tried and could
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  only do like three, two, two.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah,
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  I don't think it's terribly
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  surprising to see more of
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  the men go very fast
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  singles versus the ladies
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  on that workout.
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  I think you can play to... It's just,
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  I mean, at the end of the day,
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  no matter who wants to say it,
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  it's a running workout.
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  So if the touch and go...
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  if touch and go impacts your running,
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  it's just not worth it.
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  Cause you're going to lose more time.
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  I was surprised.
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  Like you have to be able to,
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  you have to be able to
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  manage that clean and jerk.
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  Right.
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  Is what became obvious to me today.
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  Yes.
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  You have to manage it so
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  that your runs don't suffer.
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  Right.
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  Now that is where you're
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  running outside in a big loop and,
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  and not doing, as Corey's putting it,
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  the DMV Disney line like
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  they did in Asia.
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  Yeah, I saw that.
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  So if you're forced to do that,
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  it's a completely different
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  event with all the zigs and
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  the zags because you're
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  never even going to get to top speed.
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  Yeah,
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  you're never going to stride out your
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  run and really settle in.
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  So it does change it where
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  you might want to try to do
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  some touch and go to get
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  out ahead of somebody
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  before you get back out on the run.
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  I know that you're going
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  into a weekend where you're
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  going to be coaching,
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  so I didn't want to talk
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  about that a bunch,
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  but I just have a couple
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  observations about that.
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  You've got Jacob this weekend coming up.
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  You've got Madison and her team.
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  And then...
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  So we have one of our coaches at Ascend,
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  Carrie Tobias.
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  She is on a team.
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  Well, she owns a gym, Man Made CrossFit,
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  up in Cypress, greater Houston area.
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  She has a team that she is
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  on from that gym.
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  And then I have a guy that I
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  coach who's on another team
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  from that gym.
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  So they have two teams from that gym.
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  And they're...
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  more or less ascend teams
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  with her being one of our coaches.
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  They do a good bit of our programming.
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  They all train at the affiliate as well.
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  So it's kind of a hodgepodge.
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  Um,
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  but I'll be there to assist them as well.
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  So in essence,
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  three ish teams and then two
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  individuals in the West.
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  Yeah.
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  As,
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  as a person who's gotten to know Hattie
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  over the,
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  I love these workouts for Hattie.
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  Me too, brother.
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  She came and tested like she
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  tested a couple in full.
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  We did some interval
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  variations of a couple and I'm excited.
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  Corey Leonard asks, Tristan,
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  where's your box?
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  So the gym that I coach out
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  of is CrossFit Greater Heights in Houston,
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  Texas.
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  So my fiance and I also go
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  to a gym down in Dickinson, Texas,
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  which is Greater Houston area,
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  closer to where we live,
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  called CrossFit Kima.
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  So we bounce around a little bit.
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  So we talked to Jacob yesterday.
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  You happy for his,
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  his chances with these workouts?
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  Yeah, I'm, I'm excited for Jacob.
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  I think there's a,
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  a good portion of the
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  events that he can really go compete on,
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  um, that favor his abilities.
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  You know, he's not a,
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  I wouldn't say he's a fully
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  mature games athlete at
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  this point by any stretch.
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  Um,
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  But I'm really proud of the
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  progress he's made in his
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  fitness this last year.
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  You interviewed him yesterday.
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  This was his first year
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  having a job, working, training,
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  being in his garage most of the time.
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  He's a really social athlete.
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  He likes to be around people.
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  That wasn't really an option
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  a lot of the year.
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  He got married.
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  So for him,
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  the improvements we've made on
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  his fitness this year,
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  he improved his placing in
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  quarterfinals drastically.
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  I think we'll improve his
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  placing at semifinals by a good margin.
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  We have a goal we'd like to hit there.
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  And all of that happening in his,
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  I give him a hard time,
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  his first year of really adulting.
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  And doing a lot of adulting, you know,
• 17:54
  getting married as well.
• 17:56
  So I'm super proud of him
• 17:57
  and excited for him to go
• 17:58
  out and have a good time.
• 18:02
  Corey wants more specifics.
• 18:04
  We're in Houston.
• 18:05
  Everything is 45 minutes
• 18:07
  away from each other.
• 18:08
  We travel there a couple
• 18:09
  times a year and I'd love to drop in.
• 18:11
  He's right.
• 18:12
  Everything is 45 minutes away.
• 18:14
  It's in the Heights.
• 18:15
  So it's right off like the
• 18:16
  intersection or not the intersection,
• 18:18
  but where I 10 turns into I
• 18:21
  45 and they kind of crisscross.
• 18:23
  It's just a couple minutes down.
• 18:25
  I 10 going West.
• 18:26
  So it's in the Heights.
• 18:28
  Technically I 10 is my least
• 18:31
  favorite road in the world.
• 18:34
  It's not my favorite either.
• 18:35
  I've driven it a long ways.
• 18:37
  A lot of different directions.
• 18:39
  When I lived in Tallahassee, Florida,
• 18:42
  It was the east-west from
• 18:44
  Jacksonville to Pensacola.
• 18:47
  Ugh.
• 18:48
  Ugh.
• 18:49
  Yep.
• 18:51
  I've driven I-10 from El
• 18:52
  Paso all the way to Houston,
• 18:54
  and it's 13 hours of nothing.
• 19:00
  Larry Young.
• 19:00
  Box you like close to Pearland.
• 19:03
  Box I like close to Pearland.
• 19:05
  I don't actually know the
• 19:06
  Pearland area that well for
• 19:08
  CrossFit boxes, unfortunately, Larry.
• 19:11
  Um, is that John,
• 19:13
  is that John Young's dad?
• 19:16
  I believe so.
• 19:16
  Yes.
• 19:17
  Okay.
• 19:18
  So I knew, I know John is in the area,
• 19:22
  but I don't know exactly where, um,
• 19:25
  but he was at a,
• 19:26
  I saw him at a local
• 19:27
  competition in Katie in December.
• 19:32
  And I loosely gathered that
• 19:34
  he is somewhere in the area.
• 19:37
  Uh,
• 19:40
  Larry, I don't know, but I'll ask around.
• 19:41
  I'm sure I could put some
• 19:44
  feelers out there.
• 19:49
  Oh, he's in the Katy area.
• 19:50
  Okay, yeah, so he's not far at all.
• 19:57
  My favorite road sign ever
• 19:59
  is right across the state line in Texas.
• 20:01
  It says El Paso, 850 miles.
• 20:04
  Yeah, Texas is just massive, man.
• 20:09
  It's funny you say that
• 20:10
  because I was coming back
• 20:11
  from Jamie's because we're
• 20:12
  going to get into age group here.
• 20:14
  I was coming back from
• 20:15
  Jamie's in Michigan.
• 20:16
  Cross the Michigan-Ohio border,
• 20:18
  and there's a sign on the
• 20:20
  road that says Atlanta, Georgia,
• 20:23
  1,000 miles.
• 20:26
  You couldn't pick a closer city first?
• 20:28
  As I cross into Ohio from Michigan,
• 20:30
  I'm worried about how far
• 20:31
  it is to Atlanta.
• 20:32
  1,000 miles?
• 20:32
  Right.
• 20:36
  And I think like two exits down,
• 20:38
  it's like Tampa.
• 20:41
  Yeah.
• 20:43
  That's wild.
• 20:44
  Yeah.
• 20:46
  There's probably some engineering reason.
• 20:49
  Or some guy just going, Hey,
• 20:50
  let's play a joke.
• 20:51
  And yeah.
• 20:53
  Right.
• 20:54
  Let these people know how
• 20:54
  far away they are from this
• 20:55
  other place in the United States.
• 20:58
  So before we kind of talked
• 21:01
  about the news of the day, um,
• 21:03
  news of the week is the age
• 21:05
  group semis ended on monday
• 21:08
  night at eight o'clock they
• 21:09
  did um our friend my friend
• 21:14
  your athlete jamie latimer
• 21:18
  have finished in a
• 21:19
  qualifying spot she did so
• 21:23
  now you have a two-week
• 21:24
  wait until the leaderboards are final
• 21:30
  what happens at this point?
• 21:31
  Like it's a long break from
• 21:35
  the end of that until the
• 21:37
  game start Labor Day weekend.
• 21:42
  I know Jamie,
• 21:42
  she's not going to take a rest,
• 21:44
  but would you,
• 21:46
  would it be ideal for an
• 21:47
  athlete to take some time
• 21:49
  off and let the body heal
• 21:52
  and get ready for like July?
• 21:57
  Yeah.
• 21:58
  Yeah,
• 21:58
  that would be the ideal kind of
• 22:01
  recommendation.
• 22:01
  Hey, take about two weeks.
• 22:04
  You can train.
• 22:06
  You can go work out.
• 22:07
  Obviously, she's an affiliate owner.
• 22:09
  I know being part of her
• 22:11
  community is super important.
• 22:13
  So she and I had a conversation yesterday.
• 22:16
  I'm going to have some programming in,
• 22:19
  but I don't want you
• 22:21
  stressing to get an extra workout.
• 22:22
  I don't want you stressing
• 22:24
  to go super hard.
• 22:27
  I restrict you from lifting
• 22:28
  anything that feels overly heavy.
• 22:32
  Do one of my workouts or
• 22:33
  work out with your classes.
• 22:35
  Have fun.
• 22:37
  Don't stress on things for
• 22:38
  the next two weeks.
• 22:39
  And then we'll start
• 22:42
  building up slowly for September.
• 22:48
  She's been very open that
• 22:50
  she has a labrum tear.
• 22:54
  It's not going to heal itself.
• 22:57
  Just trying to get through
• 22:58
  the season to get through that.
• 23:00
  As a coach, how do you approach that?
• 23:06
  Carefully.
• 23:06
  I try to give her a good bit
• 23:10
  of auto-regulation,
• 23:13
  if we were going to use a coaching term.
• 23:15
  where she can vary things a
• 23:17
  little bit based on how her
• 23:18
  shoulder is feeling,
• 23:19
  particularly with the
• 23:20
  movements that tend to
• 23:21
  aggravate it or the, you know,
• 23:25
  weights that can aggravate it.
• 23:27
  So we try to give a little
• 23:29
  bit of leeway based on how
• 23:30
  things are feeling that day.
• 23:31
  Um, of course,
• 23:33
  if she's worried about something,
• 23:34
  she can text me and I'll
• 23:36
  change it really quickly,
• 23:37
  or we'll just take a
• 23:40
  a good bit of bodybuilding work,
• 23:42
  good old fashioned, you know,
• 23:45
  external rotator strength
• 23:46
  work and things like that,
• 23:47
  trying to keep the muscles
• 23:48
  around it nice and strong.
• 23:50
  And then also,
• 23:51
  when we look at preparing for the games,
• 23:54
  just knowing where that's
• 23:55
  going to probably impact
• 23:56
  what we can do on a given
• 23:58
  movement or a lift or
• 24:00
  something like that.
• 24:02
  And, you know,
• 24:03
  managing around that trying
• 24:04
  to make it so that we can
• 24:06
  make our money in other places.
• 24:13
  there's been a lot of drama
• 24:14
  this week around the online
• 24:19
  format of age group, um,
• 24:21
  the programming of age group,
• 24:24
  the leak and who should
• 24:26
  report the leak of age group.
• 24:30
  Um, your general overall thoughts.
• 24:35
  What a mess.
• 24:37
  Um, I I've,
• 24:42
  I'm very frustrated with just the overall,
• 24:48
  I guess,
• 24:48
  state of the union of the online
• 24:50
  portion of the sport at
• 24:53
  this point and the, um,
• 24:59
  security of the workouts
• 25:01
  and things moving on to the
• 25:03
  semifinal stage.
• 25:05
  Um,
• 25:07
  obviously everybody knows if
• 25:09
  people get the workouts early,
• 25:11
  even if they just have the movements,
• 25:13
  anybody with a decent coach
• 25:15
  or half a brain can,
• 25:17
  if you know the movements
• 25:18
  of a competition,
• 25:20
  you can potentiate around
• 25:21
  those movements in a variety of way.
• 25:23
  If you know the work,
• 25:25
  the movements two weeks
• 25:26
  before everybody else.
• 25:27
  Um,
• 25:28
  know the said principle
• 25:29
  specific adaptation to
• 25:30
  impose demands it's a thing
• 25:32
  for a reason if I just make
• 25:34
  people keep doing whatever
• 25:37
  movements front squats
• 25:38
  double unders and toe to
• 25:39
  bar over and over and over
• 25:41
  and over and over in a
• 25:42
  variety of ways they're
• 25:44
  going to get better at that
• 25:46
  and that's not even talking
• 25:47
  about moving things one
• 25:48
  degree of separation and
• 25:49
  going okay instead of front
• 25:51
  squats today we're going to do thrusters
• 25:54
  It's so close to the same stimulus.
• 25:55
  It's going to improve their performance.
• 25:57
  So I think as a coach,
• 25:59
  I'm really frustrated with it.
• 26:03
  I'm not sure at this point.
• 26:06
  I'm not really big on placing blame.
• 26:09
  I think it's better when
• 26:10
  people just take responsibility.
• 26:11
  At this point,
• 26:13
  I think HQ obviously should
• 26:14
  take responsibility.
• 26:15
  And I think Dave overall has,
• 26:17
  especially for the semifinals portion.
• 26:22
  I don't really know the nuts
• 26:23
  and bolts of the ins and
• 26:25
  outs with their
• 26:25
  relationship with the
• 26:27
  legends competition for the
• 26:28
  masters stuff.
• 26:30
  I think my perspective on it at this point,
• 26:33
  and I think the only way to
• 26:34
  really nip it would be, uh,
• 26:36
  what Halpin known and noble
• 26:38
  put on his story three, four,
• 26:42
  maybe five days ago at this point,
• 26:44
  he basically was making this, the analogy,
• 26:47
  you should treat the,
• 26:48
  the workouts like uranium.
• 26:51
  And, uh,
• 26:52
  if you have access to those
• 26:53
  workouts and you do
• 26:55
  something you're not
• 26:55
  supposed to do with those
• 26:56
  workouts for lack of a better term,
• 26:58
  it could kill you in the CrossFit space.
• 27:01
  And I think it would be incredibly harsh,
• 27:04
  but I think if CrossFit had
• 27:08
  a leak and they found out who leaked it,
• 27:11
  that person's gone.
• 27:12
  Who did they leak it to?
• 27:14
  Okay.
• 27:14
  Did that person put it out publicly?
• 27:16
  Cause that's different.
• 27:17
  If you get them leaked and you blast it,
• 27:20
  I don't think you should
• 27:21
  have had access to them,
• 27:22
  but if you just get them
• 27:23
  sent to you and then you
• 27:24
  blast them publicly, I think that's okay.
• 27:26
  But if you just have the
• 27:27
  workouts and you didn't put
• 27:29
  them on your social media,
• 27:30
  you didn't report it back to CrossFit,
• 27:32
  you didn't do something
• 27:33
  with them to get it back to the authority,
• 27:35
  you're gone.
• 27:36
  You're out.
• 27:37
  You're blacklisted.
• 27:38
  Just like a – I think it
• 27:41
  should be the same thing as
• 27:42
  a failed drug test.
• 27:43
  Four years.
• 27:44
  You're gone.
• 27:48
  If there's not going to be
• 27:49
  any repercussion,
• 27:52
  then nobody's going to stop doing it.
• 27:57
  People are going to keep
• 27:58
  sending the workouts to their friends.
• 27:59
  People are going to take
• 28:01
  pictures and try to give
• 28:02
  their favorite athlete a leg up or this,
• 28:04
  that, and the other.
• 28:05
  And I think the best case
• 28:07
  for that would be for CrossFit.
• 28:09
  And if an athlete or a coach
• 28:11
  gets sent those workouts,
• 28:12
  of course they're going to act on it.
• 28:15
  So I think the best thing
• 28:16
  would be a public policy from CrossFit.
• 28:19
  If you get information that
• 28:21
  somebody says is for a
• 28:23
  semifinal stage or a
• 28:24
  quarterfinal stage or even the Open,
• 28:26
  screw it,
• 28:27
  and you don't report that to
• 28:29
  CrossFit and we find out you had it,
• 28:33
  you're gone.
• 28:38
  So my contention has always been,
• 28:41
  Not always.
• 28:42
  My contention has been
• 28:43
  recently that because of all the leaks,
• 28:46
  maybe the cat's out of the
• 28:48
  bag and we just can't keep
• 28:50
  it a secret anymore.
• 28:51
  Like why is it such a big
• 28:55
  deal to keep it secret till
• 28:56
  the last minute?
• 28:58
  If it's leaking out there,
• 28:59
  then just put it out there
• 29:01
  early and let everybody have it.
• 29:03
  Yeah.
• 29:05
  Yeah.
• 29:06
  I don't disagree with that either.
• 29:07
  I think you almost at this
• 29:08
  point need to have one of the two, right?
• 29:10
  You either just put them out early.
• 29:12
  And just let everybody have them.
• 29:14
  Or if you're going to play this game,
• 29:18
  you got to enforce what you want.
• 29:22
  I mean,
• 29:23
  I think we cling to things from the
• 29:25
  past that we love.
• 29:27
  I mean, in everything we do,
• 29:28
  not just CrossFit, right?
• 29:30
  And everybody loved the old
• 29:31
  open announcements where
• 29:33
  nobody knew the workout.
• 29:35
  You know,
• 29:35
  you gather around your stream at
• 29:38
  8 o'clock on a Thursday
• 29:39
  night or now 3 o'clock on a...
• 29:42
  Thursday afternoon.
• 29:42
  Right.
• 29:43
  And everybody's waiting with
• 29:44
  bated breath to see what the workout is.
• 29:47
  And that,
• 29:48
  that's like a warm part of your soul,
• 29:51
  right?
• 29:51
  That it's old.
• 29:52
  It's what you're used to.
• 29:53
  It's what you're comfortable.
• 29:55
  But with growth,
• 29:56
  sometimes you lose that
• 29:57
  intimacy and those little
• 30:00
  heartwarming moments, right?
• 30:02
  You know,
• 30:04
  and that happens in sport across all,
• 30:07
  all of them, football, baseball.
• 30:09
  Yeah.
• 30:09
  Right.
• 30:12
  i I think we have to like
• 30:14
  let go of some of those
• 30:15
  things to progress forward
• 30:18
  and make it a fair fair's
• 30:21
  not the right term because
• 30:22
  everybody just professional
• 30:26
  it has to be a professional
• 30:27
  sport right where every
• 30:29
  athlete has the same
• 30:30
  opportunity yeah and in
• 30:34
  this age where you need
• 30:35
  everything tested by elite athletes
• 30:40
  they're all so
• 30:41
  interconnected to keep that
• 30:44
  circle without enormous
• 30:47
  litigation to keep that
• 30:49
  circle tight is nearly impossible now.
• 30:52
  Yeah.
• 30:53
  I almost, I agree.
• 30:54
  I think, you know,
• 30:57
  I used to love the old open
• 30:58
  announcements and I mean,
• 31:02
  it was the best to just go
• 31:03
  sit and watch and then try
• 31:05
  to figure out who was going
• 31:05
  to win and all that.
• 31:06
  But I don't disagree.
• 31:07
  I think,
• 31:09
  as we grow, things need to change.
• 31:10
  I think, you know, I've said this before,
• 31:13
  I'm adamantly against
• 31:19
  online competition at this point.
• 31:20
  Like I'm fully,
• 31:21
  my hat is in with Justin Kotler.
• 31:23
  Whenever we're going to make a circuit,
• 31:24
  somebody call me I'm in, I want to help.
• 31:26
  I want to figure it out.
• 31:27
  Cause this is just, I just think the,
• 31:29
  I don't think we're ever
• 31:30
  going to get the online thing.
• 31:31
  Right.
• 31:32
  Um,
• 31:33
  But I do think there's at
• 31:35
  least some things we could
• 31:36
  do differently.
• 31:37
  And I think putting out the
• 31:37
  workouts a little bit ahead of time,
• 31:39
  more ahead of time.
• 31:42
  Cause yeah,
• 31:42
  to your point with the athletes
• 31:43
  being so interconnected, I mean,
• 31:45
  what do you do pay for
• 31:46
  people to work for CrossFit
• 31:48
  and their job is to train,
• 31:49
  to be elite athletes.
• 31:51
  And then so that they just
• 31:52
  test the workouts,
• 31:53
  but they're banned from competing.
• 31:55
  Right.
• 31:55
  It's like, like,
• 31:56
  how do you manage that without crazy,
• 31:58
  like you said, litigation in DAs and,
• 32:01
  and this, that, and the other.
• 32:02
  And it,
• 32:03
  I don't even, I mean, I don't know.
• 32:06
  My heart wants to say,
• 32:07
  I don't think it's the
• 32:08
  athletes that were testing
• 32:09
  it that were leaking it,
• 32:09
  but I don't know.
• 32:12
  I'm not accusing them of that.
• 32:14
  Right.
• 32:15
  It's just,
• 32:16
  it's just evidence that the
• 32:18
  circle is getting bigger
• 32:19
  and bigger and bigger.
• 32:21
  Yeah.
• 32:21
  I mean, that means it's,
• 32:24
  it's less containable, right?
• 32:26
  If you're a cowboy and
• 32:28
  you're hurting cattle,
• 32:29
  if you're hurting 10,
• 32:30
  it's a lot easier than hurting 50.
• 32:33
  Yeah.
• 32:36
  Yeah.
• 32:36
  I don't know.
• 32:37
  It's a really conflict.
• 32:38
  Like, I feel like as a coach in the space,
• 32:40
  I have, you know,
• 32:42
  obviously a handful of
• 32:43
  thoughts and opinions on
• 32:44
  how I'd like to see the
• 32:45
  space improve and blah, blah, blah, blah,
• 32:47
  blah, and this, that, and the other.
• 32:48
  And then I obviously have my
• 32:51
  more coach centric opinions,
• 32:54
  which are a lot more aggressive.
• 32:56
  And I, you know, like,
• 33:01
  For me as a coach, you know,
• 33:02
  with somebody like Hattie
• 33:03
  or my teams or whatnot,
• 33:06
  I don't care that you had
• 33:07
  the workouts before us.
• 33:09
  Good.
• 33:10
  Still going to beat you.
• 33:12
  Right?
• 33:12
  Like that mindset difference as, you know,
• 33:16
  when thinking about the
• 33:17
  athletes and dealing with
• 33:18
  the athletes is there and
• 33:19
  then taking kind of a
• 33:21
  degree of separation and
• 33:23
  just as somebody who loves
• 33:24
  the sport and wants to see it progress,
• 33:26
  I think I have a lot of
• 33:28
  thoughts like you.
• 33:30
  Right.
• 33:31
  And as a coach,
• 33:32
  you don't want it to be excuses, right?
• 33:35
  Oh, no.
• 33:37
  It's all about like we can
• 33:39
  control what we can control.
• 33:40
  We're going to do.
• 33:41
  But like until I'm just
• 33:45
  going to be blunt until I
• 33:46
  became friends with Jamie,
• 33:48
  like I didn't understand
• 33:49
  how bad online competitions were.
• 33:54
  the worst.
• 33:56
  I did a documentary on her
• 33:58
  last year through quarterfinals.
• 34:01
  I've seen her live.
• 34:03
  I watched her.
• 34:03
  I documented her.
• 34:05
  She's barely making it to the next level.
• 34:10
  Get her to an in-person competition,
• 34:12
  she podiums.
• 34:14
  So, like,
• 34:16
  it's such a drastic difference
• 34:19
  from online to live.
• 34:20
  Yeah.
• 34:21
  Like, and it's getting worse and worse.
• 34:25
  Yeah, I mean, Jacob...
• 34:27
  he struggled for a long time
• 34:29
  with online and I think
• 34:30
  he's still relative to how
• 34:33
  he performs in person struggles a ton.
• 34:36
  He's gotten a lot better.
• 34:38
  You know, he's more comfortable with it.
• 34:39
  He's, he's learned,
• 34:41
  we've learned on how to get
• 34:42
  him into the mind space for
• 34:44
  those things and to put his
• 34:45
  best foot forward.
• 34:46
  But I mean,
• 34:46
  last year he did the TFX
• 34:48
  qualifiers and got dead
• 34:51
  last in the qualifiers to
• 34:52
  go to the pro division and
• 34:54
  he won the competition.
• 34:56
  When I've said it over and
• 34:57
  over again on Around the Whiteboard,
• 34:59
  the two times I've been
• 35:00
  asked this question,
• 35:01
  I'm tired of shit videos
• 35:02
  getting people into the next stage,
• 35:05
  and then they don't have
• 35:06
  the ability or the capacity
• 35:07
  to do the work when they get there.
• 35:09
  Yep.
• 35:13
  I was actually glad for the penalties.
• 35:16
  Yeah.
• 35:18
  I want it spread out even
• 35:19
  more to more workouts.
• 35:23
  Oh, yeah.
• 35:23
  Yeah.
• 35:25
  Not just pick one and we're
• 35:27
  going to go hard on this one.
• 35:29
  No.
• 35:30
  Put quarters right behind the open.
• 35:33
  Give yourself two more weeks
• 35:34
  to do video review and hit
• 35:37
  a couple more of those.
• 35:39
  Yeah.
• 35:39
  I mean,
• 35:40
  I would love to see a full thorough
• 35:43
  video review.
• 35:43
  Did you see the proposal
• 35:46
  that was sent by the AFJ and PFAA?
• 35:51
  I've not.
• 35:51
  I'm just going to put a couple comments.
• 35:54
  Absolutely hate online.
• 35:55
  In person, it shifts so drastically.
• 35:58
  Corey,
• 35:58
  I backed into MFC and had a first
• 36:00
  and a second place finish.
• 36:02
  Yep.
• 36:04
  I effing hate online.
• 36:06
  I was backfield third round.
• 36:08
  I was backfield third round
• 36:09
  to Waterpalooza
• 36:10
  Intermediate 2019 and 20
• 36:12
  and podiumed it second in person.
• 36:16
  These are great examples of
• 36:18
  why online really, really sucks.
• 36:21
  Yeah, I mean, 2019,
• 36:23
  the fittest experience.
• 36:28
  So the fittest experience
• 36:29
  used to have a humongous RX division.
• 36:31
  Humongous.
• 36:33
  And they took 120 men to the RX division,
• 36:35
  I think.
• 36:36
  Or it was 120.
• 36:37
  I think I got 105th in the
• 36:39
  qualifier and ended the comp in 25th,
• 36:42
  22nd.
• 36:42
  Wow.
• 36:51
  it's the margin of error
• 36:52
  should not be that large no
• 36:54
  my fitness didn't improve
• 36:55
  that much from january to
• 36:57
  april like it's it's
• 37:01
  frustrating and I think a
• 37:01
  large part of it too is um
• 37:06
  those little no reps right
• 37:08
  that people get in a
• 37:09
  competition where they're a
• 37:10
  judge is really forcing
• 37:11
  them to hold the standard
• 37:12
  versus a friend in the gym who's
• 37:14
  Who's judging them that, okay,
• 37:15
  that one was close.
• 37:16
  This, that, and the other, you know,
• 37:18
  or it's their coach or, or whatever.
• 37:20
  I think those things add up
• 37:22
  to make that kind of a big drastic shift.
• 37:25
  Right.
• 37:25
  Cause I don't think
• 37:27
  everybody in the space is
• 37:28
  just trying to cheat.
• 37:30
  I just think they're not
• 37:31
  being held to a standard all the time.
• 37:34
  So Nadine says it does
• 37:35
  always make me more excited
• 37:36
  to qualify and go in person though.
• 37:39
  Absolutely.
• 37:40
  You can use that like as a
• 37:42
  chip on your shoulder.
• 37:44
  Like I qualified 27th and
• 37:46
  I'm going to go podium.
• 37:47
  Yeah.
• 37:48
  And take a look at me now.
• 37:50
  Right.
• 37:50
  Like come at me, bro.
• 37:52
  I mean,
• 37:52
  there's even a whole other portion
• 37:54
  about it.
• 37:54
  You know, just talking, you know,
• 37:57
  there are athletes,
• 37:57
  there are athletes who are
• 37:59
  exceptional at redoing.
• 38:02
  There are athletes who are
• 38:03
  exceptional at redoing
• 38:05
  workouts and improving their scores.
• 38:07
  And there are a lot of
• 38:08
  athletes out there who are
• 38:10
  exceptional at executing
• 38:12
  well the first time.
• 38:15
  And so you end up in this
• 38:16
  weird position where –
• 38:18
  okay,
• 38:18
  somebody put their best foot forward
• 38:20
  and did it really well the
• 38:21
  first time for their capacity,
• 38:22
  and then this person who's really,
• 38:24
  really good at redoing
• 38:26
  starts to find scores and
• 38:27
  finds that little gray area
• 38:30
  to leap that person in the
• 38:31
  online competition because
• 38:32
  they did the workout three times.
• 38:35
  And that's not how
• 38:36
  competition actually works.
• 38:37
  It's how online competition works,
• 38:39
  but it's one of the reasons it sucks.
• 38:43
  So as for the programming
• 38:46
  with the age groups, were you,
• 38:47
  were you cool with it?
• 38:50
  Um, yeah, more or less.
• 39:01
  Um, I think the,
• 39:04
  I think the 35 to 39
• 39:06
  division could have had a
• 39:07
  little bit more oomph to
• 39:08
  some of their workouts.
• 39:10
  Um,
• 39:11
  know a lot of those guys and
• 39:13
  girls in the 35 to 39 like
• 39:15
  they're going to they go to
• 39:16
  semi-finals you know I know
• 39:19
  will morad's kind of the
• 39:20
  poster boy for all that um
• 39:23
  but I didn't have any major
• 39:28
  issue with them I didn't
• 39:30
  love the row workout um
• 39:35
  I didn't love that they rode
• 39:38
  in every stage of
• 39:39
  competition leading up to
• 39:42
  the games for them.
• 39:46
  Chest-to-bar, handstand push-up,
• 39:48
  double under box jump was fine.
• 39:50
  It wasn't anything to blow your hair back.
• 39:56
  The thruster power clean
• 39:58
  toe-to-bar one was...
• 40:01
  okay there it was I think
• 40:03
  the overall prevailing
• 40:05
  theme for a lot of the
• 40:06
  programming and I know
• 40:08
  legends the people who
• 40:09
  program the the qualifiers
• 40:11
  for the age groups are not
• 40:12
  the same people who program
• 40:13
  quarterfinals for the the
• 40:15
  open division and the age
• 40:16
  groups but the prevailing
• 40:17
  theme for the programming
• 40:19
  to me has been there's just
• 40:20
  no separation value in the workouts
• 40:24
  The way the workouts have
• 40:26
  been written this year,
• 40:27
  there's not a place where a
• 40:29
  bunch of people are going
• 40:30
  to get stonewalled and you
• 40:32
  can just kind of cruise past people,
• 40:35
  which, good, bad, or indifferent,
• 40:37
  just is what it is.
• 40:40
  So the one thing that was
• 40:42
  very prevalent last year
• 40:44
  was that there were spots
• 40:46
  and workouts that were stoppers.
• 40:50
  And you would get a backup of 20, 30,
• 40:54
  50 athletes.
• 40:55
  You couldn't get past X, right?
• 40:59
  That has not been the case
• 41:01
  in the elite division this year.
• 41:04
  It came back in the age group semis.
• 41:08
  where that snatch you know I
• 41:12
  think in jamie's division
• 41:14
  almost 60 athletes were
• 41:15
  stopped at the same spot
• 41:16
  she was and couldn't hit
• 41:19
  the last bar right is that
• 41:23
  good for the sport or bad for the sport
• 41:44
  I think an inevitable part
• 41:47
  of testing at a higher skill or capacity,
• 41:53
  you will have people get
• 41:54
  blocked by something.
• 41:56
  I think it's an
• 41:57
  inevitability of increasing
• 41:58
  the difficulty of programming.
• 42:01
  People will get blocked or slowed down.
• 42:03
  I don't think it should be
• 42:07
  done inappropriately.
• 42:11
  but I do think it is okay to
• 42:13
  have those movements if
• 42:14
  you're looking for a
• 42:17
  specific checkpoint for
• 42:21
  something you would like to
• 42:22
  do in the next stage, right?
• 42:26
  Like if in semifinals, quarterfinals,
• 42:30
  easy example,
• 42:31
  if they wanted these legless,
• 42:34
  they had rope climbs.
• 42:37
  If we didn't have rope
• 42:38
  climbs and had legless,
• 42:41
  Maybe, okay,
• 42:42
  we have muscle-ups and something else, so,
• 42:44
  okay,
• 42:44
  they probably can do some legless
• 42:46
  rope climbs.
• 42:47
  But I think that's kind of
• 42:49
  how my brain gravitates
• 42:51
  toward those things.
• 42:53
  I think what it does is it
• 42:55
  allows different kinds of
• 42:57
  athletes to move on the
• 43:00
  leaderboard maybe 2.5%.
• 43:05
  5%, right?
• 43:06
  If you're an athlete who
• 43:08
  struggles with a dense set
• 43:11
  of gymnastics or a very heavy barbell,
• 43:15
  and those things are more
• 43:16
  evenly distributed across a workout,
• 43:19
  then you're going to like
• 43:21
  that those things aren't there, right?
• 43:23
  So the 20-minute AMRAP, for example,
• 43:25
  if that was a 20-minute
• 43:26
  AMRAP with 30-30-30-90, right?
• 43:36
  So instead of 50 double unders, 10, 10, 10,
• 43:38
  it was 90 double unders, 30, 30, 30.
• 43:43
  Probably a relatively
• 43:45
  different leaderboard.
• 43:48
  Because there are athletes
• 43:51
  who can keep chipping through 10,
• 43:53
  but if they had to do 20 or 30,
• 43:55
  they're going to start to
• 43:56
  deteriorate and slow down.
• 43:58
  or on the chest to bar the
• 43:59
  same kind of a thing versus
• 44:01
  the athletes who would have, I mean,
• 44:04
  obviously everybody would
• 44:04
  have slowed down to a degree,
• 44:06
  but they would have been
• 44:06
  able to keep their rate of
• 44:08
  travel closer and faster to
• 44:10
  what they were doing with tens.
• 44:13
  So I think it just,
• 44:14
  it depends on what the
• 44:16
  programmers are going for
• 44:19
  from a coaching and
• 44:20
  programming perspective.
• 44:22
  I mean,
• 44:22
  my job is to have people prepare
• 44:24
  for whichever variation comes out.
• 44:26
  Right.
• 44:28
  Yeah, and I mean,
• 44:31
  just remembering that this
• 44:33
  is now 200 people instead
• 44:34
  of 30 at this level.
• 44:37
  So the participants change
• 44:41
  when you go to 200.
• 44:45
  Larry jumps in with,
• 44:47
  Bob said it started heavier.
• 44:49
  I don't want to dive into a
• 44:51
  lot of the Bob and Joe stuff,
• 44:54
  only for the fact that they
• 44:55
  have been hit pretty hard this week.
• 44:57
  And they have been nothing
• 44:58
  but kind to me in this show
• 45:02
  when I went to Legends last year.
• 45:04
  And I'm really hoping to do
• 45:05
  some behind-the-scenes
• 45:06
  stuff at the games with the
• 45:09
  Masters athletes this year.
• 45:12
  But I will say they did not
• 45:15
  come across well in that podcast.
• 45:18
  I think there needed to be
• 45:19
  an off-air conversation
• 45:21
  prior to them going live.
• 45:23
  Yeah.
• 45:25
  I would agree with that.
• 45:29
  Yeah.
• 45:30
  It's just, I mean,
• 45:31
  the snatch weight was heavy for some,
• 45:35
  not heavy for others.
• 45:36
  Maybe could have been
• 45:37
  different for the different divisions.
• 45:41
  I just think a lot of it too
• 45:44
  was just the row.
• 45:45
  Like what could you row?
• 45:48
  I coach a teenage athlete.
• 45:49
  She did the last barbell in 40 seconds,
• 45:52
  50 seconds.
• 45:54
  For her, I mean, it was heavy,
• 45:56
  but it really wasn't a snatch workout.
• 45:58
  It was a rowing workout.
• 46:03
  So the teenagers had the
• 46:04
  same workouts as the masters?
• 46:06
  Yes.
• 46:07
  I know 16 and 17 did.
• 46:09
  I do not have anybody in 14 to 15,
• 46:11
  so I do not know.
• 46:12
  But it would have been the
• 46:13
  same workout scaled.
• 46:15
  Yeah.
• 46:15
  Which is odd to me because
• 46:18
  we've been told that the
• 46:20
  event organizers were
• 46:21
  taking over a majority of
• 46:23
  the programming starting at semifinals.
• 46:26
  But those two groups are different.
• 46:30
  The Masters and the Teens
• 46:31
  are run by two different organizations.
• 46:35
  How did they...
• 46:37
  Yeah.
• 46:38
  Did,
• 46:39
  I guess Pitt just might've deferred to
• 46:42
  what they wanted to do.
• 46:45
  I don't know.
• 46:45
  Knowing the people at Pitt,
• 46:47
  they like to program too.
• 46:48
  Like, you know, I don't,
• 46:52
  it's a very interesting, you know,
• 46:54
  like I heard that the
• 46:58
  people programming for
• 46:59
  semifinals didn't even know
• 47:01
  what the quarterfinals and
• 47:01
  the open workouts were.
• 47:03
  Well, that's problematic.
• 47:06
  So it's – I don't know.
• 47:08
  Like I just – like you said, bigger circle,
• 47:12
  more complexity issues in
• 47:14
  the systems that have to be worked out.
• 47:16
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 47:20
  Yeah.
• 47:23
  Well, that's all we really had today.
• 47:25
  We're coming up on that hour.
• 47:27
  We didn't have anything crazy.
• 47:29
  And this will be kind of
• 47:30
  typically the format going forward.
• 47:33
  The reason it's called Chopping It Up is –
• 47:36
  we'll just talk about
• 47:36
  whatever kind of pops into
• 47:37
  our heads as we move forward.
• 47:40
  And that means you get to
• 47:41
  contribute to this show
• 47:43
  when you're in the chat,
• 47:44
  throw some stuff in there
• 47:45
  and we'll dive down whatever road you,
• 47:49
  you lead us.
• 47:50
  Yeah.
• 47:50
  That'll be fun.
• 47:51
  Yeah.
• 47:51
  Questions, comments, random stuff.
• 47:53
  The good thing is the
• 47:54
  CrossFit space always has
• 47:55
  something happen every week.
• 47:58
  Yeah.
• 47:59
  So we'll probably always
• 48:00
  have something to talk about.
• 48:03
  Why I love your and Kotler's
• 48:05
  idea of like a season, a tour.
• 48:09
  Gosh, man, the content.
• 48:12
  I don't understand why this
• 48:14
  is a hard sell at this point.
• 48:16
  More content, more competitions,
• 48:19
  more opportunities for the
• 48:20
  athletes to make money,
• 48:22
  more opportunities for the
• 48:23
  athletes to get spotlight,
• 48:24
  less online competition,
• 48:26
  less stuff in CrossFit's hands.
• 48:28
  CrossFit would have to oversee a lot.
• 48:31
  Because they're going to
• 48:33
  have to be the governing body.
• 48:34
  CrossFit, if this happened,
• 48:36
  is going to have to be the NFL.
• 48:39
  And govern all this.
• 48:40
  And you're going to have to
• 48:41
  find competitions who want
• 48:43
  to take part in it.
• 48:44
  And there would be... I don't know.
• 48:48
  You could come up with a
• 48:49
  point system based on the
• 48:53
  programming and the size of
• 48:55
  the competition.
• 48:56
  CrossFit evaluates the programming.
• 48:58
  determines how many points
• 49:00
  you get for the first
• 49:00
  second third fourth if you
• 49:02
  go all the way down to
• 49:03
  fifth like wadapalooza
• 49:04
  should be able to get
• 49:05
  people more points than tfx
• 49:07
  it's a bigger competition
• 49:08
  there's more people they're
• 49:10
  swimming like all these
• 49:11
  things to piggyback on your
• 49:12
  idea you hire mike halpin
• 49:15
  you do a strength of field
• 49:17
  for every competition yes
• 49:18
  depending on the strength
• 49:19
  of field for that
• 49:20
  competition you get more or
• 49:22
  less points yes you are
• 49:25
  Yes.
• 49:27
  You're going to have to do
• 49:29
  online qualifiers to get there.
• 49:30
  Okay, I get it.
• 49:32
  Whatever.
• 49:33
  You can still do quarterfinals.
• 49:35
  You run quarterfinals like a
• 49:36
  last chance online
• 49:37
  qualifier to get to
• 49:38
  semifinals for people who
• 49:39
  need to accrue more points,
• 49:41
  and they're only missing
• 49:42
  out on a couple points.
• 49:43
  Only the top 20 in
• 49:45
  quarterfinals even get points.
• 49:47
  Every single video is went through.
• 49:49
  Every single video is scrutinized,
• 49:51
  making it unideal to have to do that.
• 49:53
  You want to go get your
• 49:54
  points in other competitions.
• 49:56
  Athletes get to structure their own year.
• 50:02
  It's so much better.
• 50:04
  It's so much better.
• 50:05
  It drives me up the wall.
• 50:10
  Whatever is the first stage
• 50:12
  of where CrossFit takes it over,
• 50:14
  whether it be semifinals or the games,
• 50:17
  I don't care.
• 50:18
  You take the last couple
• 50:20
  people out or the first
• 50:21
  couple people out.
• 50:22
  Okay.
• 50:25
  The night before the competition,
• 50:28
  you have a true last chance qualifier.
• 50:32
  Here's three workouts.
• 50:33
  You're going to go back to back to back.
• 50:36
  Winner's in.
• 50:37
  Like a gauntlet.
• 50:38
  That'd be crazy.
• 50:40
  Well, it doesn't have to be like,
• 50:42
  like waterfall style or whatever.
• 50:44
  Yeah.
• 50:44
  Yeah.
• 50:44
  Just the night before run three workouts.
• 50:50
  Yeah.
• 50:50
  You're going to be tired going in,
• 50:51
  but at least you got in and
• 50:53
  you have your shot.
• 50:55
  Yeah.
• 50:56
  I, I also think,
• 50:57
  and people are going to
• 50:59
  yell at me for this and I don't care.
• 51:01
  Um, I think if you like,
• 51:03
  if you were at the CrossFit games, um,
• 51:06
  the margin of points you
• 51:08
  need to get to go to
• 51:09
  semifinals for the next year is minimal.
• 51:12
  Like you basically just need
• 51:13
  to show up and do a
• 51:14
  competition and not look like a fool.
• 51:17
  Like you went to the CrossFit games.
• 51:19
  Did you hear Saxon's proposal?
• 51:22
  No.
• 51:23
  And I,
• 51:23
  and I don't know if he told me this
• 51:24
  off the air or if I saw it on the air,
• 51:25
  whatever, but he said,
• 51:29
  top 10 at the games,
• 51:31
  you're automatically in next season.
• 51:34
  If you have your L1,
• 51:37
  If you make X number of
• 51:39
  appearances at other
• 51:40
  competitions and then you
• 51:43
  just put this criteria and
• 51:45
  as long as you do this and
• 51:47
  help promote the sport that way,
• 51:50
  you're back in next season.
• 51:52
  I don't see why that would be an issue.
• 51:56
  It's not like they randomly
• 51:57
  didn't get fit.
• 52:00
  I coached Kelly last year.
• 52:02
  She has not been doing a ton
• 52:04
  of super CrossFit specific work.
• 52:06
  in the last couple months
• 52:08
  since she decided to step back,
• 52:10
  I've got news for everybody.
• 52:11
  She's still really, really,
• 52:13
  really freaking fit.
• 52:18
  It's not like people who go
• 52:19
  to the games and then when
• 52:22
  the clock ticks to December
• 52:24
  as we go into like
• 52:25
  Wadapalooza season and all that,
• 52:27
  that their fitness
• 52:28
  magically evaporates and
• 52:30
  they have to prove to us
• 52:31
  again that they are games athletes.
• 52:36
  It annoys me.
• 52:37
  If you have been to the games,
• 52:38
  you've already been vetted.
• 52:39
  I agree.
• 52:41
  Especially if you're top 10.
• 52:42
  If you're top 10 games,
• 52:44
  that's not a fluke.
• 52:46
  Yeah.
• 52:48
  So 10 people, men and women,
• 52:51
  get an exemption for the
• 52:54
  next season as long as you
• 52:56
  help promote the sport by
• 52:57
  doing this list of things,
• 53:00
  which are a lot easier than
• 53:01
  having to compete against
• 53:02
  people to get back.
• 53:04
  And it would be – I mean
• 53:05
  there would be challenges
• 53:06
  like with a circuit,
• 53:09
  I guess the game spots
• 53:11
  wouldn't necessarily be
• 53:12
  allocated by region.
• 53:13
  It would just be people –
• 53:15
  like that part would get weird.
• 53:18
  Because some of the tour
• 53:19
  dates are going to be in other countries.
• 53:22
  Exactly.
• 53:22
  That's when you grow it internationally.
• 53:24
  Well,
• 53:24
  you also get a lot more
• 53:25
  cross-pollination.
• 53:27
  Right.
• 53:28
  Because you're not –
• 53:30
  you're not growing it
• 53:30
  through an Olympic style.
• 53:32
  You're growing it through
• 53:33
  like a PGA or tennis.
• 53:35
  Yeah.
• 53:36
  Style.
• 53:37
  Yeah.
• 53:40
  Yeah.
• 53:40
  It always, the, I always thought about,
• 53:42
  I'm not super familiar with
• 53:44
  golf and tennis.
• 53:44
  I know ish of them, but it also, it always,
• 53:48
  I did MMA for a while.
• 53:49
  When I was in the military
• 53:50
  and it always like the thought was, okay,
• 53:52
  like they fight a couple of times a year,
• 53:54
  they move up the ranking.
• 53:55
  That was always how my head
• 53:56
  thought about it as well.
• 53:57
  Like, and it, it's still hard.
• 54:00
  Like people like Jacob or, you know,
• 54:04
  a lot of athletes that I
• 54:05
  coach who are up and coming
• 54:06
  semifinal athletes.
• 54:08
  Hey, if you're trying to punch your ticket,
• 54:10
  like we're going to have to,
• 54:11
  we're going to have to go
• 54:12
  grind out some comps.
• 54:14
  and get some points and it's
• 54:15
  going to be a journey while
• 54:17
  you're still getting fitter.
• 54:18
  But to Pat's comment, yes,
• 54:20
  because you can then design
• 54:22
  training cycles better and long-term,
• 54:26
  like really long-term
• 54:28
  planning and things like that.
• 54:30
  And you're, it's still going to,
• 54:32
  it's still going to be hard
• 54:33
  for those athletes to punch in, but it's,
• 54:38
  it's not this one weekend
• 54:39
  because we're still living, you know,
• 54:41
  to your point about the online stuff,
• 54:43
  we're still living in the world of,
• 54:45
  if you get sick,
• 54:48
  the week of quarterfinals,
• 54:50
  you're screwed.
• 54:53
  Your whole year is over.
• 54:56
  So I'm going to put this up
• 54:58
  and I want you to think about it.
• 54:59
  Cause I want to talk about it next week.
• 55:01
  And this is where we'll leave it.
• 55:02
  So Brandon Swan is,
• 55:05
  friend of the show,
• 55:07
  made this chart of the
• 55:10
  sickness-wellness continuum,
• 55:13
  but more for an elite athlete.
• 55:16
  So we all know the top.
• 55:18
  So I'm going to talk over it
• 55:19
  at this point.
• 55:19
  Yeah, you're fine.
• 55:21
  You know, where you go sick, well,
• 55:24
  fitness.
• 55:26
  And that is the continuum we know.
• 55:29
  But for an elite athlete,
• 55:30
  he adds a bottom to this continuum,
• 55:33
  right?
• 55:34
  make it a full circle okay
• 55:39
  and here it comes and if
• 55:45
  anybody knows brandon he
• 55:47
  has been to the games a
• 55:49
  couple times and every time
• 55:50
  he gets there he gets hurt
• 55:51
  he's australian yeah
• 55:53
  correct yeah okay I know
• 55:54
  who it is interesting
• 55:59
  And he's arguing that the
• 56:01
  fitness you're doing in
• 56:02
  competing actually leads to sickness.
• 56:10
  Yeah,
• 56:10
  there's a mountain of data to support
• 56:12
  that as well.
• 56:16
  Yeah,
• 56:17
  we can dive into that because that's
• 56:18
  also a little bit more
• 56:21
  science-y strength conditioning and yeah.
• 56:25
  We can dive into that for sure.
• 56:26
  So it's on his Instagram if
• 56:28
  anybody wants to go read
• 56:29
  his full narrative on this.
• 56:32
  But yeah, I saw it and I was like, dang,
• 56:36
  that's pretty thought-provoking.
• 56:38
  And I think that would be
• 56:39
  really cool for us to talk
• 56:40
  about next week.
• 56:41
  I agree.
• 56:41
  That would be cool.
• 56:43
  So with that,
• 56:46
  have fun watching semis this weekend.
• 56:49
  Good luck.
• 56:50
  And you're actually traveling next week,
• 56:52
  right?
• 56:53
  Yes, sir.
• 56:53
  We'll have to figure that out.
• 56:55
  Yeah, we'll figure something out.
• 56:57
  Yeah,
• 56:57
  I leave Thursday and then come back
• 56:58
  Monday and then leave the next Thursday.
• 57:01
  Okay.
• 57:02
  Well, with that,
• 57:04
  thank you everybody for being here.
• 57:06
  We'll see you next time on
• 57:07
  Chopping It Up with Coach Crispy Green.
• 57:10
  Bye, guys.