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Episode 20_ The Unsolved Disappearance of Natalee Halloway(M4A_128K) · NO FILTER

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, I'm Andrea and Hale and welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: Inhuman Okay, guys, So once again, I'm so sorry, but
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  Speaker 1: I am doing another open case, cold case, whatever you
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  Speaker 1: want to call it. I'm gonna be covering the disappearance
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  Speaker 1: of Natalie Halloway. I don't know if I know this one.
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  Speaker 1: You will once I once I tell some more details.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was a it was a
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  Speaker 1: huge case when it first broke out, and unfortunately there
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been like much movement, you know, in the last
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  Speaker 1: several years, so it is like still open, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, it's kind of it's a it's a doozy,
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  Speaker 1: it's a sad case, but it's it's another crazy case too.
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  Speaker 1: It's got a lot of like all these crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Details, and these are the ones that need to be
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  Speaker 2: told too, Like as difficult as it is to hear
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  Speaker 2: it and not have an answer, these are the ones
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  Speaker 2: that like really need to be told and pushed out
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  Speaker 2: there because you never know, there have been a ton
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  Speaker 2: of cases solved because of podcasts and social media and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that, and the more coverage it gets.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, the more the open cases, the more they're
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  Speaker 1: put out into you know, the interwebs, the more chances
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  Speaker 1: of getting solved. Okay, So Natalie and Halloway was a bright, beautiful,
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  Speaker 1: eighteen year old high school student. She graduated from Mountain
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  Speaker 1: Brook High School, which is in Alabama. And something really cool,
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  Speaker 1: which I wish, I kind of wish my graduation class
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  Speaker 1: did this, but they had a I guess, uh, what's
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  Speaker 1: the word called redo something the same every year tradition
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  Speaker 1: tradition thank you brain dead over here where the graduation
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  Speaker 1: graduating class would take a trip to Aruba. So with
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  Speaker 1: over one hundred of the three hundred graduating students from
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  Speaker 1: her class, Natalie of course wanted to go on the trip.
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  Speaker 1: Her parents were divorced and her father was not comfortable
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  Speaker 1: at all sending her on this trip. Her mother was
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  Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, she's eighteen, Like she wants
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  Speaker 1: to go, it's kind of her decision, and Natalie insisted
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  Speaker 1: on going.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like that's how it kind of goes
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  Speaker 2: with trips like that. Like even I had a friend
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  Speaker 2: and we studied abroad in college and her dad was like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I want you going, but her
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  Speaker 2: mom was like, come on, she's in college go like fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always yeah, there's always one parent, you know,
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  Speaker 1: good cop, bad cop. You gotta write to do get
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  Speaker 1: out with them. But yeah, that's.
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  Speaker 2: Fun too that they had a trip like my college
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  Speaker 2: had a year or my college my high school had
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  Speaker 2: a Europe trip that a bunch of the seniors went on.
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  Speaker 2: But it also was like I don't know, maybe forty
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  Speaker 2: people out of our like seven hundred person class, so
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't like as big. Plus it was like seven
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars, So that's yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We had like we had little trips, but they were
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  Speaker 1: all like local, you know, like we went to like
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  Speaker 1: New York. We went to like Louisiana. That's fun though,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, it was nothing like crazy out of the country,
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  Speaker 1: which I would have been so down for. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: even though Natalie was eighteen, she was very responsible. She
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  Speaker 1: got straight a's in school, She volunteered for lots of organizations,
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  Speaker 1: and she also had a full ride for eight years
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  Speaker 1: to the University of Alabama. I didn't know that was
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  Speaker 1: a thing that you could get eight years full ride.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as they do like your undergrad and your yeah graduated.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I knew somebody in college that she was a couple
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  Speaker 2: of years younger than me, but she joined the ambassador
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  Speaker 2: program that I was in in that and she had
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  Speaker 2: like her undergrad her grad school and her PhD.
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  Speaker 1: Wow covered, that's amazing. She has been really smart. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy, which Natalie was very smart. She wanted to
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  Speaker 1: go to med school. So eight years all covered. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Her stepbrother, like I mentioned, like her parents were divorced
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  Speaker 1: and her stepbrother had actually gone on this trip a
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  Speaker 1: few years before with his graduating class, and also a
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  Speaker 1: couple of her cousins were going to go on the
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  Speaker 1: trip that she graduated graduated with. So I guess that
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  Speaker 1: kind of like eased things for her parents a little bit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: as well. So on May twenty sixth, two thousand and five,
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  Speaker 1: Natalie hopped on a plane to Aruba to let loose
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  Speaker 1: and go have some fun with her friends, which sounds
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  Speaker 1: like she earned it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds so fun, and I'm guessing it's not
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  Speaker 2: going to end fun and that makes me sad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. It's very sad. So there were chaperones
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  Speaker 1: on this trip, but their role was more so to
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  Speaker 1: like make sure that everybody was accounted for daily and
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  Speaker 1: that you know, everybody's being safe. They weren't really there
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  Speaker 1: to like supervise the activities that were going on. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: because then Aruba, the legal drinking age is eighteen, so
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  Speaker 1: most of the graduating class was eighteen, and Natalie and
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  Speaker 1: her roommates were eighteen. So they went out and partied
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  Speaker 1: a good bit during their time in a room like
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  Speaker 1: do you boo boo? Yeah, who wouldn't. I would have
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  Speaker 1: been doing the same thing exactly, exactly if I canna
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  Speaker 1: tell you about the time I went to the Bahamas.
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  Speaker 1: That was lots of drinking, lots of blacking out on
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  Speaker 1: that trip, but it was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, well, you know, you gotta you gotta enjoy
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  Speaker 2: life right in room right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So there was a specific bar that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the Americans like to hang out at. It was
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  Speaker 1: called Carlos and Charlie's, and Natalie actually spent a lot
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  Speaker 1: of her time there. It's reported that Natalie and her roommates,
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  Speaker 1: which were also her friends, they had met a young
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  Speaker 1: man name It's spelt Jorin, but I heard it pronounce
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  Speaker 1: urin like with a y because he's from where is
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  Speaker 1: he from, like Denmark? I think? So his name was
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  Speaker 1: Urine vander Slut, and they had met him earlier that
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  Speaker 1: day at a casino, and I guess Natalie and one
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  Speaker 1: of her friends had kind of been like, hey, you guys,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you and your friends or whoever should you know,
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  Speaker 1: come and meet us at Carlos and Charlie's tonight. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the group had planned to meet up at
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  Speaker 1: Carlos and Charlie's later night, and it was also their
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  Speaker 1: last night in Aruba, so of course they wanted to
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  Speaker 1: like party it up big, and you know, of course. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Reports state that about fifty of Natalie's classmates planned to
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  Speaker 1: meet at that specific bar that night to celebrate their
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  Speaker 1: last night in Aruba. Around midnight, Oran arrived and he
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  Speaker 1: had brought two of his friends with him. They were
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  Speaker 1: brothers Dpak and Satish Kalpo. I'm not really sure what
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  Speaker 1: they're I think they were, I don't know. I can't
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  Speaker 1: remember what their nationalities were. But you know, Aruba it's
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  Speaker 1: a Schmorgasborg of ethnicities and different you know, races and
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff. So they were seen Natalie and her
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  Speaker 1: friends Oran, Depak and Satish were all seen taking shots
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  Speaker 1: at the bar. They were taking shots of one fife,
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  Speaker 1: which like that's it's like I think it's a rum
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  Speaker 1: and it's one and fifty one percent alcohol, so it's
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  Speaker 1: like whatever, eighty ninety proof or whatever. Yeah, really strong stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So after a little while, you know, everyone's dancing having fun,
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  Speaker 1: Natalie's friends noticed that she was no longer at the bar,
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  Speaker 1: and they began to look for her. They even left
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  Speaker 1: the bar and walked down the street to another bar
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  Speaker 1: to look for her there, but to no avail. They
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  Speaker 1: assumed that she was probably just intoxicated and she'd eventually
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  Speaker 1: make it back to her hotel room, which like, don't
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  Speaker 1: ever do that, don't ever keep looking, yea. And since
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  Speaker 1: you know, they all had American phone service, like their
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  Speaker 1: phones did not work in Aruba because it was two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and five, so they probably, you know, they didn't
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  Speaker 1: have all the plan options like you know, international whatever,
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  Speaker 1: you know, while you're somewhere else, have your phone work. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So the next morning, when her roommates awoke, they saw
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  Speaker 1: that Natalie's bed had not been slept in, But a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people on the trip had kind of like
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  Speaker 1: crashed in other people's rooms, so they just assumed she
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  Speaker 1: must have crashed with some other students, and some students
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  Speaker 1: reported that they had seen Natalie in a car with
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  Speaker 1: three guys, the same ones that she had been hanging
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  Speaker 1: out with at the bar. So you're in dpak and
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  Speaker 1: setish Okay. So the following day, the graduation graduating class
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  Speaker 1: boarded their plane to return to Alabama, and Natalie was
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  Speaker 1: still nowhere to be found.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that the whole point of the chaperones, Like, weren't
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  Speaker 2: they there to make sure that everybody was accounted for?
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  Speaker 1: Well, one of the chaperones did decide to stay back
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  Speaker 1: and wait for her. She was running late, so they
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  Speaker 1: took I guess they postponed their flight or you know,
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  Speaker 1: got a later flight. Which good for them for doing that,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, even though it didn't matter in long run,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, still the fact that, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: sometimes things happen. You know, you're drinking, you oversleep, you
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  Speaker 1: miss your flight, like I mean, it can definitely happen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So the chaperones notified Natalie's parents that their daughter had
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  Speaker 1: never boarded the plane. Actually called her mom because I
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  Speaker 1: think she lived with her mom mostly, and of course
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  Speaker 1: her you know, her mom flew into a panic. She
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  Speaker 1: was actually in the car and she got pulled over
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  Speaker 1: because she was going ninety down the road, and she
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  Speaker 1: told the police, like, I have to get to the
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  Speaker 1: police department, Like my daughter's in a rubo, she's missing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah help me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that fear, like I freak out if
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  Speaker 2: I can't find Mackie in our like one story, like
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  Speaker 2: a small house. I can't imagine that fear of like
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  Speaker 2: my daughter is missing.
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  Speaker 1: In a whole other country. Oh my god. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that just like gives me chills just to think about.
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  Speaker 2: It's so scary.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, she arrived to the police department, she
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  Speaker 1: notified the authorities in their town in Alabama, and then
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  Speaker 1: they contacted the Aruban police. I think that's how you
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  Speaker 1: say a ruben that Natalie was missing and had last
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  Speaker 1: been seen with a Dutch tourists, you're on vandersloot. But unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: the police in Aruba told Natalie's parents they couldn't start
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  Speaker 1: a formal investigation until Natalie had been missing for twenty
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  Speaker 1: four hours, and that many young American vacationers seemingly go missing,
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  Speaker 1: but then it's later learned that they were drunk or
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  Speaker 1: on drugs somewhere and then they turn up later, which like.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but even if they're drunk or on drugs somewhere,
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't we be looking for them to make sure they're
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  Speaker 2: alive and okay.
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  Speaker 1: Like yeah, they're like in another country, Like yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: hate that. And that's not what a mother in a
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  Speaker 1: panic wants to hear about her child, like, oh, she's
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  Speaker 1: probably just drunk or on drug somewhere, like, don't worry
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  Speaker 1: about it. No, fine, Yeah, So Natalie's mother, Beth, chartered
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  Speaker 1: a plane and flew to Aruba with her husband, so
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  Speaker 1: she is remarried. It's not Natalie's father. Yeah, you go,
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  Speaker 1: I know, that's exactly what I would have done. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I would have charted a plane because
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  Speaker 1: like that's a lot of money, but I would have
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  Speaker 1: definitely got on a plane to a room.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean if there's like no flights or
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  Speaker 2: something like that, like that's true.
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  Speaker 1: Gotta do what you wanna do. And they actually checked
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  Speaker 1: into the same hotel that Natalie had been staying in,
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  Speaker 1: which was a holiday inn. She asked the hotel manager
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  Speaker 1: if they had seen the man Urine who was last
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  Speaker 1: seen with her daughter, and if he had been staying
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  Speaker 1: at the same hotel. The manager then told Beth that
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  Speaker 1: they were very familiar with Urine Uron. I keep saying, Urine,
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  Speaker 1: You're on. In fact, he was not a tourist at
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  Speaker 1: all whatsoever, that he and his family actually lived in Aruba.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, and they were immigrants from the Netherlands.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but if a hotel is familiar with a local,
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  Speaker 2: that just already is suspicious, like exactly, especially like a
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  Speaker 2: holiday And I would get it if it was like
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  Speaker 2: a luxury resort that people went to to get lunch
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  Speaker 2: or something. But like you know, a holiday in isn't
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  Speaker 2: like the fanciest place ever, So that's that's sketchy.
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  Speaker 1: I also gathered that I guess the area that they
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  Speaker 1: were at is is kind of small, so like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people by each other and know other. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So so that might have had a little something to
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  Speaker 1: do with it, but I think there was There was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of reasons why they knew about this guy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was often seen in the casinos gambling and hitting
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  Speaker 1: on attractive female tourists, so that was out of hismo.
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  Speaker 1: She also found out that he was not nineteen like
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  Speaker 1: he had originally told Natalie In her roommates that he
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  Speaker 1: was actually a seventeen year old high school student. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah. So Beth went back to the police and
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  Speaker 1: told them, you know, the information that she had found out.
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  Speaker 1: The police were still adamant that Natalie was sleeping off
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  Speaker 1: a bender somewhere or that she had ran away, which like,
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  Speaker 1: stop saying that about people. People don't go to a
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  Speaker 1: Ruba to run away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the running away like that makes me even more
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  Speaker 2: mad than the oh, she's probably just drunk somewhere because like.
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  Speaker 1: What no, no, yeah, I mean people do run away,
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  Speaker 1: but like we always say, like parents know their kid,
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  Speaker 1: and like all of her belongings were in her room. Still,
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  Speaker 1: she had very limited cash on hand. She didn't have
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  Speaker 1: any of her credit cards, like she you know, went
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  Speaker 1: down to Ruba with the sun amount of cash and
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  Speaker 1: was like this is what I'm spending, you know, blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah. So like how could she have ran away
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  Speaker 1: with nothing? No, yeah, I don't believe it. So finally
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  Speaker 1: the police agreed to escort Beth and her group to
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  Speaker 1: the Vanderslleut residence.
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  Speaker 3: Iran I don't even know his name anymore, Youuran Uron
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  Speaker 3: wasn't home, but his father was there.
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  Speaker 1: It was like two in the morning. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, it's kind of crazy,
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  Speaker 1: but whatever, I would do the same thing. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: why isn't a high school student home at two am?
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  Speaker 1: But whatever, It's different, different strokes for different folks. And
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  Speaker 1: his dad called him and had him like return home immediately.
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  Speaker 1: So when he arrived at his house, he had his
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  Speaker 1: friend Dpak with him, who was also with him the
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  Speaker 1: night that Natalie went missing. Beth then aggressively questioned Uron,
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  Speaker 1: and he told her that he and Natalie had been
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  Speaker 1: flirting at the bar that evening, and that Natalie had
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  Speaker 1: wanted to go to the ocean before going back to
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  Speaker 1: her room, and that the four of them went down
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  Speaker 1: to the beach near the lighthouse and went looking for sharks,
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  Speaker 1: and then they dropped her off around two am at
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  Speaker 1: her hotel. They also mentioned that Natalie was highly intoxicated
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  Speaker 1: and that she like stumbled out of the car and
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  Speaker 1: I guess she like hit her head and all these
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  Speaker 1: details that just, you know, judged up their story a
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: little bit, I guess right. Uran took everyone to the
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  Speaker 1: hotel and showed them where they had dropped Natalie. Off
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  Speaker 1: and told them again about how she was getting out,
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  Speaker 1: bumped her head, and that security guard supposedly helped her up,
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  Speaker 1: But Beth was not convinced that the boys were telling
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  Speaker 1: the true events of the night, and she was very skeptical,
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  Speaker 1: which good for her, like mother's intuition, Yeah, good for her.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like we've said, mother knows best. Yeah, mother
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  Speaker 1: nos best. Sorry. So, Natalie's mother actually stayed in her
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: hotel room that night, like Natalie's hotel room, and this
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  Speaker 1: is so sad, but she left the light on in
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: hopes that her daughter would find her way back. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, I know. So the following morning, Uran was
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  Speaker 1: asked by the police to come down to their department
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  Speaker 1: to have a formal to give a formal statement of
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: the events of the night. He told them what he
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: had told Natalie's mom the night before. Both of Uran's
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: friends told the same statement of the events to the police,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: almost to a tea and then you know, there was
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  Speaker 1: nothing they could hold them for, so they were allowed
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: to leave after they gave their statements. Police then finally
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: passed out missing persons flyers. So I think it was
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: four days later at this point, but sadly that was
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  Speaker 1: about all they did. They were they were still convinced
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  Speaker 1: that Natalie was high on drugs somewhere or drunk and
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: would show up later. Beth hired a PI and they
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: put out posters that read kidnapped, and finally Natalie's case
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  Speaker 1: was taken a bit more seriously and her story was
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: put on the front page of the local newspaper and
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: had a little bit of coverage on local news networks.
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  Speaker 1: Good police finally pulled some surveillance footage from the hotel
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  Speaker 1: from the night that she went missing, which like, why
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: didn't you do that first thing? But whatever, and then
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: they realized right away that the boys had been lying.
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  Speaker 1: There was absolutely no evidence that they had dropped Natalie
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: off at her hotel, all right, Yeah, so now we
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: have some movement. Yeah. Investigators then collected phone and internet
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  Speaker 1: records between Uron and Dpak, and it was reported that
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the following day after Natalie went missing, Uran had gone
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: to school and there were several communications between him and
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: d Pak. Satish on the other hand, which is Dpak's brother,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: had missed school altogether. All right, So d Pak and
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  Speaker 1: Uron had met up later that night at the casino
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  Speaker 1: and they were both drinking heavily when they received a
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  Speaker 1: call from Uran's father questioning him about Natalie's disappearance. So
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  Speaker 1: when Beth and her husband went to the Van der Sloot,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: they were there. They were at the you know, drinking again.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, you're in high school. What are you
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  Speaker 1: doing so crazy? Where are your parents? So investigators believe
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: that the boys had gotten together that night to get
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: their stories straight about what happened or to possibly destroy evidence.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: So the boys were then taken into custody officially for questioning.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Dpak maintained his original story. Satish, however, refused to comment
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: at all, and Uran stuck by his same story, mostly
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: except he did add some strange details that he originally
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: didn't share in the first interview, like insinuating that Natalie
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: was racist, like specifically towards d Pak and Setish. I'm
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: not going to go into like what he said because
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: it's all a bunch of bullshit, but yeah, basically like
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: trying to make her look bad now because they're getting caught. Yeah,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: So Yuran did eventually request the lawyer, and he admitted
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: that he hadn't been fully honest about what happened, which,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: like du now He says that he was not with
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the brothers when they dropped Natalie off at the hotel.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: He said that Dpak told him to say he was
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: with him because it would sound better, and to lie
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: about her falling out of the vehicle at the hotel
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: to make it make her look bad, you know. Of course,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: then he told police that d Pak kept his car
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: in a warehouse and that if they were going to
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: find any evidence, they should look there. Satish then came
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: forward and said that he typically washes Dpak's car weekly,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and they that the car had been washed the day
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Natalie went missing, so that morning he had washed it,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: and then that night she had gotten into the car,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and that he did, you know, corroborate that it was
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: kept in a warehouse when Dpak wasn't driving it. Police
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: then told the brothers that Uran had presented a new
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: statement then incriminated them. M yeah. So that when they
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: arrived at the lighthouse, Uran and Natalie were too busy
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: making out, so Dpak kept driving, and then Uran realized
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and asked for the two to be let out and
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: he would walk Natalie to her hotel. This is what
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the brother Deepak is saying now. So Supposedly, the two
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: went down to the beach and had a swim and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Natalie fell asleep on the beach, so Uran left her there.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Uran also said that he had left his size fourteen tenants.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: There, Yeah, just like my case this week.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they had gotten sand in them and that
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: he couldn't locate them, so they were just gone. And
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: police thought that was kind of suspicious. They were like,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: why did he add in that detail, Like we didn't
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: really need to know that, but maybe he was like
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: trying to cover his tracks in some way. Yeah. Dpak
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: said that he had a text message proving that they
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: did not drop Uran and Natalie off at the beach,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and that he took back, saying that Natalie was highly
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: intoxicated that night and that she actually seemed reasonably with it.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: So his story is just all over the place. Yeah, Yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: they're all their stories all over the place. Now, Deepak
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: is saying that he thinks Uran lied to cover up
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: that he raped Natalie and Satish back to statement up.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: So all the boys are lying, which is like huge
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: red flag. They're changing their story constantly, which to me
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: seems like they're all guilty in some capacity, whether they're
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: covering for someone or whether they all had something to
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: do with it. Very suspicious. So the police then questioned
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: friends of Uran, and there were lots of reports of violence.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Evidently he liked to get drunk and fight people, and
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: that he also liked to use women for sex and
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: he frequently treated women like garbage. So they talked to
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: some of his ex girlfriends who basically backed that up
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and said, yeah, he treats women like a doormat. And
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: if you remember, as I mentioned before, he was also
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: known to interact with attractive female tourists, you know, taking
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: advantage of them or whatever because they're intoxicated, having fun whatever.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Another interesting fact to mention is that Uran's father, Paulus,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: told Natalie's mother Beth, that he had picked up Uran
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: and Natalie the night prior.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: It sounds like that's a little bit of trying to
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: cover up for your kid, right there.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that they had I guess gone to a McDonald's
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and that he dropped her off safely at her hotel.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: It's also mentioned that Paulus told Iran that without a body,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: without a crime scene, and without a weapon, the investigators
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: had nothing.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he is also very well connected in Aruba.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: So those are all just interesting tidbits I wanted to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: throw in there because, like you said, it sounds like
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: he's trying to cover up something. Yeah. So, aside from
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the three boys, there was also another suspect in the case,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Steve Crows, who also happened to be an acquaintance of
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Uran and the brothers. He was taken into custody. Actually,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: he came forward like completely on his own and backed
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: up the story that Uran and the brothers like were
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: seen hanging out with Natalie that night, that they went
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: down to the beach and then they dropped her off
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: at the hotel. Supposedly he saw them dropped her off
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: at the hotel and at the beach and at the bar.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I'm like, how are y'all at all these places? Dude.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: But so later he was taken into custody and question again,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and he said he had absolutely nothing to do with
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Natalie's disappearance and that he was at work the night
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: she went missing. But witnesses actually spotted him at Carlos
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: and Charlie's the night she went missing, and his boss
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: said that he was not at work that night. So
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: another suspicious possible link There were also three fishermen that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: were at the beach the night, the beach that they
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: supposedly went to the night that she went missing, and
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: they were all there until four thirty am, which would
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: have been well past the time of two am when
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: they said they dropped Natalie off, And they never saw
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: DPE's car or anyone wasing Uron or Natalie. And they
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: said that like it was a I think it was
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: like a full moon that night, so like there was
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: lots of light and they could see the beach clearly.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: There was no wind. They did see a jeep with
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a male and a female in it, but they were
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: they had like English accents as opposed to American and
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Dutch accents. So again they're lying. Nothing is making sense right.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: So on July fourth, Depak and Statiche were let out
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: of custody. However, Uron was kept for an additional sixty days.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I couldn't really find why. I think they maybe just
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: wanted to like break him down a little bit more
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to try to get more details.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: But maybe they had more on him so they were
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: able to keep him for longer.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely seemed the most suspicious of the three
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, Beth was outraged, which is Natalie's mom.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: She was complet com lately enraged. She went to the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: media and it was not taken well at all. She stated, quote,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: it is now that I asked the world to help me.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Two suspects were released yesterday who were involved in a
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: violent crime against my daughter. Helped me by not allowing
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: these two to get away with this crime. And it
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: was also I couldn't get this like exactly quoted from her,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: but it was also stated that she had asked for
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: them to be flight risks, so they couldn't like free
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the country because they you know, they did have connections
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: in other countries, you know, because they're from another country.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: The Aruban people were in an uproar over her statements,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and they officially stopped helping her. Like before that they
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: were helping her like pass out flyers and like supportive
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff, but they were now like they
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: were over it. So a few days later Beth did
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: go to the media and formally apologize, which good for
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: her because like, I don't think I.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Would have been able to do that, no, especially if
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: they were all of a sudden like nope, sorry, yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I'd be so pissed.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: In two thousand and eight, Uruben officials reopened the case
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: against vander Slut after a tape showing him describing Natalie's death,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: which was filmed via a hidden camera by a Dutch
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: crime reporter Peter de Vries, was released. Police, however, were
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: unable to confirm that his story was factual, and therefore
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: he was not kept in custody. Yes, sorry, like blanket
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: out every wow. Yeah. Then in November the same year,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: a journalist by the name of Greta van sus Sustin.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I think that's how you say it, It's probably not
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: how you say it, actually got an interview with vander
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Slut in Thailand where he claimed that he had sold
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Natalie into sex slavery. Oh my god. Yes, Later he
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: called her back and told her that he had been lying.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: His story was not true. So this guy has like
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: changed his story fifty five times. Like I'm sorry, but
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: that just screams guilty in my opinion. Yeah. The fact
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: that they couldn't tie him down with any of that
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: is just disgusting.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: He also allegedly extorted twenty five thousand dollars from Beth,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Natalie's mom, in exchange for Natalie's remains, which he never provided,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and then he fled to Peru with that twenty five
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars, where where everything finally caught up to him
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: in unfortunately a very bad manner. So on May thirtieth,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: twenty ten, exactly five years to the day of Natalie's disappearance,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Deefhanie Flores, a university student and daughter of a presidential candidate,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: was found beaten to death in a hotel room rented
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: by Iran in Lima, Peru. Thank fucking god, this piece
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: of shit motherfucker was found guilty and he is now
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: serving twenty eight years, which is not good enough in
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: my opinion, in a Peruvian prison, which hopefully that's like
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: really bad hopefully.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Holy shit, did you hear my jaw hit the ground?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, my jaw hit.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: The ground too, because when I originally heard the story
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: many many years ago, a detail was not was not given.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, think god, he's in jail. But yeah, oh
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: my gosh, I thought that you were going to say
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: that he either died or committed suicide.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: No, he's too vain, he's too narcissistic sociopath for that.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: But I'm sure his father is so proud, you know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: because he told him like without a crime scene, without
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: a bondie, without he left all that there. Mm hmm,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I'm so, I'm so upseted your face because if they
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: would have, like if they would have just kept him
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and figured out like how he was guilty of Natalie's
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: disappearance and probably murder, this poor woman would not have
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: been murdered.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it like clearly there was something wrong and
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: whether or not he committed a murder or just left
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: a girl to find her own way home in a
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: foreign country, whatever it may be, like, clearly he was
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: lying and you should continue to hold him at least
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: until you can get the story straight.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, there has to be some kind of surveillance,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: some kind of CCTV, which I know is like two
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: thousand and five, But there has to be something out
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: there that they just didn't look at. Yeah, somebody had
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: to see if there was that much party, which everyone
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: was probably wasted off their ass, but if there was
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: that much that many people in the street, that much
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: partying going on, like, surely somebody saw something, you know, right.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: So in twenty eleven, Natalie Halloway was officially declared dead.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: She did get a death certificate, Her parents got her
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: death certificate. Her mother, Beth, has never stopped looking for her.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Countless people have donated their time and their money for searches, rewards,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: and media covers to try and help give this mother justice.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: But as of today, Natalie's remains have never been found. Wow,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and that is the very tragic disappearance of Natalie Halloway.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: That's so sad. You know, I remember this like in
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: two thousand and five. I remember like her face at
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: all everything on every news network. Yeah, because she was
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: like very beauty, full blonde hair, you know, blue eyes,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: like the whole, a whole shebang, like smart, funny, you know,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: all this stuff. But yeah, and then you know, and
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: then it just wasn't it just wasn't it just you
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: didn't hear about it anymore. And then I heard it.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I heard it again on like a podcast and got
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: like more details and stuff, which I did listen to.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I want to give credit where credit is due. There's
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: a podcast called case File. I believe it is never
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: listened to it in my entire life. But when I
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: was like doing research, I just like wasn't getting the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: you know, the nitty gritty of like some of the details,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, it was like a two
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: hour long episode, so wow, I'm gonna listen to that.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's where I got like some of my
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: details about like, you know, the boys' stories changing and
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: things like that. But it's a really good episode. And
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the guy has a really cool accent, just like your person.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: He's from likes. I don't know, he's a anonymous host.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wow, so he has like an interesting New
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Zealand accent. I think that's what I think it is.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, wow, that's really heartbreaking. I'm glad that the
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: guy who likely had some sort of involvement in her disappearances,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: at least in jail. It sucks that the other two
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: aren't because clearly there's something they.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, even if they had nothing to do with her
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: actual death, I think that they definitely know what happened
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to her and probably know where she is. Yeah, so wow, Yeah,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: So I will post beautiful pictures of Natalie and not
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: so beautiful pictures of her probably probably murderer on Instagram,
• 34:50
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• 34:53
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• 35:00
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• 35:04
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• 35:07
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• 35:12
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• 35:16
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• 35:20
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• 35:27
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• 35:28
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• 35:34
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• 35:42
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• 35:48
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• 36:03
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