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Iran; USS Liberty; Nowak Reexamined; AI Populism; Unskilled; G. Wood; Achievement | Yaron Brook Show · Yaron Brook Show

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  Speaker 1: A lot of the fundamental principles last self interest and
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  Speaker 1: an individual once. This is oh right, everybody, welcome to
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  Speaker 1: you one book show on this uh Tuesday, June ninth.
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  Speaker 1: I hope everybody's having a good week. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: joining me, and thank you for accommodating. Uh. I know
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  Speaker 1: the unusual hour, so let's jump into it. Iran ion Ivan.
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  Speaker 1: Would it be nice if I could do a show
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  Speaker 1: without mentioning Iran once? Wouldn't that be cool? I guess not,
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  Speaker 1: no time soon. I guess that is gonna happen anyway. Uh. Yesterday, yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: the DING shutdown a US Army a H sixty four,
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  Speaker 1: a party helicopter near the states of Homos. Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: tweeted the following, I've just been informed by a great
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  Speaker 1: military that last night the ANIA.
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  Speaker 2: Shut down one of our highly sophisticated.
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  Speaker 1: Apache helicopters while patrolling over the streets of Homos. There
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  Speaker 1: were two pilots involved. Both are safe and uninjured. Nevertheless,
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  Speaker 1: the United States must of necessity respond to this attack.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you your attention to this matter.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was posted I don't know, sometime this morning,
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  Speaker 1: something this morning. He said that then as the day progressed,
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  Speaker 1: Trump started downplaying the any issue down of the Apache,
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  Speaker 1: telling you the Wall Street Journal, it's not a big
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  Speaker 1: deal and the Pie is doing well, so vowing a
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  Speaker 1: military response. Then not a military response, then.
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  Speaker 2: What the hell?
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  Speaker 1: What the hell is going on? According to Wa Stet
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  Speaker 1: Journal phone call with the Walls the Journal, Trump said
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  Speaker 1: blockade was making Iran very poor.
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  Speaker 2: It's always been very point.
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  Speaker 1: He would keep it in place as long as necessarily,
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  Speaker 1: sort of play down the helicopter incident, saying there wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a big deal and stress that the pilot is okay,
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  Speaker 1: that Patikhu spent two hours.
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  Speaker 2: In the water as darkness fell.
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  Speaker 1: According to Captain Bill Hawkins, spoke some stantial command once
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  Speaker 1: the US official described the cruise escape from the downed
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  Speaker 1: aircraft as a hands of God moment. Anyway, it turns
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  Speaker 1: out his first statement was the right statement. So about
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  Speaker 1: an hour ago, US Central Command announced that its forces
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  Speaker 1: began launching self defense strikes against Iran at five pm
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  Speaker 1: Eastern Time at the direction of the Commander in Chief,
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  Speaker 1: in response to yesterday's downing of the US Army Apache helicopter. Importantly,
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  Speaker 1: they say the mission is a proportional, proportional they've read
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  Speaker 1: their just war theory proportional response to unjustified Iranian aggression.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like the explosions in three in three areas,
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  Speaker 1: in around the streets of home wares, in two ports,
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  Speaker 1: and on the island on the island that is kind
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  Speaker 1: of central to the Homo States. No details yet, it
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  Speaker 1: seems like a very limited response by the US against
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  Speaker 1: coastal targets in front of the streets of Homos. These
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  Speaker 1: are the targets that a week into the war, literally
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  Speaker 1: was the Saturday after the war began. I said, the
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  Speaker 1: prim the primary focus of the United States should be
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  Speaker 1: right now to eliminate everything the Iranian military has on
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  Speaker 1: the coast of the Homo Straits are exactly where they're
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  Speaker 1: bombing right now, in the ports and on the islands,
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  Speaker 1: to just eviscerate it, bomb the hell out of it,
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  Speaker 1: eliminate it. They still haven't done it, because there's still
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  Speaker 1: targets there that needs shooting at.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, So.
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  Speaker 1: Tit for tat, tit for tat, tat for tit, tit,
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  Speaker 1: tit tit, back and forth we go. The Ranians have
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  Speaker 1: already threatened that given if the United States responds to them,
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  Speaker 1: downing of the helicopter, which they one of the people
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  Speaker 1: claimed was an accident. The helicopter just happened to be
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  Speaker 1: in the route of an Uranian drone. It just they
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  Speaker 1: just collided, a complete accident. That they would retaliate if
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  Speaker 1: America retaliated. I'm really really hopeful that they actually you retaliate.
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  Speaker 1: I hope they retaliate. I hope nobody dies from their retaliation.
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  Speaker 1: But I really do hope that they retaliate. And at
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  Speaker 1: some point, maybe maybe I don't know, maybe I'm delusional.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe at some point, if the Iranians do enough stupid things,
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  Speaker 1: if they build stupidity upon stupidity, it'll actually penetrate through
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  Speaker 1: that thick skull of the President of the United States
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  Speaker 1: that yeah, we have to go back to war and
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  Speaker 1: let's actually win this and let's actually.
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  Speaker 2: Bring about a regime change.
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  Speaker 1: I doubt that will happen, but the Ranians is certainly
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  Speaker 1: anybody else would have got the message by now, but
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem that way anyway. As we speak, explosions,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have details. We'll public get details in a
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  Speaker 1: little while. You know, we know where the explosions happen,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't have to damage. We don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you wants retaliating. I'll keep an eye on this.
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  Speaker 2: But explosions were on Custom Island and they included.
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  Speaker 1: Enemy fighter just fired the projectile straight in on the
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  Speaker 1: Custom Island.
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  Speaker 2: There were also explosions in Bunda Abbas, which.
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  Speaker 1: Is the mean port in the Straits. And then there
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  Speaker 1: was also.
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  Speaker 2: More attacks. I repeated attacks on Cyric.
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  Speaker 1: Cyric is another port for the south along the streets,
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  Speaker 1: also on the coast. So that's where the attacks are happening.
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  Speaker 1: And now I guess we wait to see if anything else.
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  Speaker 1: If anything else.
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  Speaker 2: Happens, we'll see. I will try to keep an eye
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  Speaker 2: out for it.
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  Speaker 1: United States states that these strikes are warning shot and
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  Speaker 1: not expected hinder peace negotiations. God forbid, God forbid. The
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  Speaker 1: negotiations are going so well, and you know, downing helicopter
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  Speaker 1: where the pilots survive, it's such not a big deal
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  Speaker 1: that there's just a warning shot. We don't want the
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  Speaker 1: peace negotiations to stop because the most important thing in
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  Speaker 1: the world right now is the peace negotiations.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a minute. Anyway, interesting how
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  Speaker 2: the pilots were saved.
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  Speaker 1: The pilots were actually saved by an unmanned surface vessel,
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  Speaker 1: a Soaronic coursier, which is a small unmanned boat. It
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  Speaker 1: located the crew who had spent two hours in the
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  Speaker 1: water off the coast. They climbed onto the boat and
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  Speaker 1: it brought them to show where they were picked up
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  Speaker 1: by a by a helicopter. A Soaronic is a venture
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  Speaker 1: back from what I understand, it's a venture backed startup that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you know, backed by uh, backed by uh,
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  Speaker 2: what do you call it?
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  Speaker 1: A sixteen Z, right, A sixteen Z This is uh and.
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  Speaker 2: Uh it's yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we now have a whole new generation of
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  Speaker 1: startups focused on the military, supplying the military with drones
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  Speaker 1: and and technology and AI and all this stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: here you see one of those technologies in action. It's
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  Speaker 1: exciting to see. And uh, you know, he has a
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  Speaker 1: you can see if you go to their website, well
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  Speaker 1: not to their website, but soon against Palentia, a work
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  Speaker 1: is working on autonomous on a variety of autonomous naval capabilities.
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  Speaker 2: Right, this is a story from.
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  Speaker 1: Last year. From March of last year, Soonic Technologies and
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  Speaker 1: Paltea announced a strategic partnership to accelerate the development and
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  Speaker 1: deliver autonomous naval capabilities. By combining Soonic equertise in maritime
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  Speaker 1: autonomy and scalable manufacturing with Palenteer's advanced software solutions, including
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  Speaker 1: warp Speed. This partnership will set a new standard for rapid,
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  Speaker 1: cost effective, and mission ready autonomous system manufacturing to deliver
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  Speaker 1: the US Navy's future hybrid fleet vision. So we sew
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  Speaker 1: one of these boats in action. Again, exciting to see,
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  Speaker 1: and this is the future of warfare. It's the future
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  Speaker 1: I think of the US Navy. I think they're going
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  Speaker 1: to be fewer large aircraft carriers and more small autonomous
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  Speaker 1: boats that can clear mines, that can autonomous submarines that
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  Speaker 1: can rescue, rescue pilots that can go to go into
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  Speaker 1: enemy hobbis and wreck havocs. So they can be a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these, a lot of the shou go online.
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  Speaker 2: You can find.
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  Speaker 1: Pictures of the Serrounic Costiers. It looks like a decently
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  Speaker 1: sized boat where two people can get on board and
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  Speaker 1: be rescued. So it's it's not just a tiny little
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  Speaker 1: thing that travels underwater.
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  Speaker 2: This is very cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's twenty four feet. It's twenty four feet, so
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  Speaker 1: you know, a sizeable a sizable boat. I do not
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  Speaker 1: know what other capabilities it has. My guess is it
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  Speaker 1: has surveillance equipment on board, so it's an intelligence gathering boat.
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  Speaker 1: But I'd be surprised if it didn't have some weapons
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  Speaker 1: systems as well and was able to defend itself or
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  Speaker 1: to or to attack when necessary out there. So again,
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  Speaker 1: very cool. It's great to see Silicon Valley technology used
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  Speaker 1: used to defend the United States, to protect, to protect lives,
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  Speaker 1: to uh, you know, to bring two of our two
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  Speaker 1: am and back home safely. So at least eighteen minutes ago,
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  Speaker 1: it was said that Eon strikes are still ongoing. This
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  Speaker 1: official tells Fox newsday strikes are ongoing. Targets include Uranian
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  Speaker 1: defense and radar installations. You know, these are the same
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  Speaker 1: air defense and radar installations that were knocked out a
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  Speaker 1: couple of months ago during the war. But they've rebuilt
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  Speaker 1: them and resupplied from China, so you have to knock
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  Speaker 1: them out again. What a figging waste. You could have
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  Speaker 1: continued that war and not.
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  Speaker 2: Had to do it again.
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  Speaker 1: Israel did the same thing yesterday when a knockdown a
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  Speaker 1: defense system DI did it knocked down in June, and
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  Speaker 1: then they knocked down again three months ago, and that
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  Speaker 1: has to knock down on them again. And if they
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  Speaker 1: waited enough time, they'll have to knock down a fourth, fifth,
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  Speaker 1: sixth time. I mean, this is what happens when you
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  Speaker 1: don't go all in and finish the figging job. Frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: I'm frustrating about this topic. As you know, Iran has
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  Speaker 1: already vowed a definitive response, calling the patchy shoot down pretexts.
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  Speaker 1: So we will wait to see how the Iranians choose
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  Speaker 1: to respond.
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  Speaker 2: To respond to this God, I mean, here's the thing, right,
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  Speaker 2: So here's more of my frustration.
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  Speaker 1: Mark Levin can be very good in this stuff, right,
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  Speaker 1: So he will say things like, yeah, you gotta win this,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta gotta go all in all this negotiation with Iran.
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  Speaker 2: That's bad. It can't do it, it can't work.
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  Speaker 1: You'll never be able to kind of deal with Iran
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  Speaker 1: that is legit, because the Iranians will always cheat. He
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  Speaker 1: gets it at some level, at something like Israel as
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  Speaker 1: an ally of ours, we should we should at least
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  Speaker 1: the is Raelis on them. And he gets all this
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  Speaker 1: stuff right, and then he writes this right about what
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  Speaker 1: just happened right, Our fabulous military and the orders are
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  Speaker 1: Great Potus is hammering Iranian positions now in response to
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  Speaker 1: the Iranian regime shooting down a helicopters.
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  Speaker 2: Great Potus.
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  Speaker 1: Like, he can't do it, He can't be consistent, he
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  Speaker 1: can't actually follow through, he can't actually tell his viewers, listeners,
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  Speaker 1: watch us.
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  Speaker 2: The actual conclusion about how bad Potis really is.
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  Speaker 1: He has to defend Trump, even as he's really been
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  Speaker 1: for weeks now criticizing his underlying strategy or lack of it.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about strategy.
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  Speaker 1: One of the questions yesterday or for yesterday was why
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  Speaker 1: did the Iranians? Why after the Israelis struck you on,
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  Speaker 1: why did the Iranians not respond? And the thought was, well,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't want to piss off these Raelians and didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to continue this because they knew Israe's capabilities. It
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  Speaker 1: might be that there was another reason why they stopped. Now, granted,
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  Speaker 1: fog of war, this is just a media report. Who
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  Speaker 1: knows if this is true or not, but it's it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's from an Israeli A well reguarded
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  Speaker 1: Israelian news source con News reported that after you know,
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  Speaker 1: during that those attacks or at the end of those attacks,
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  Speaker 1: three billion dollars in Iranian fozen assets were flown from
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  Speaker 1: ab Dawi to Tehran in exchange for Iran holding attacks
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  Speaker 1: on Israel and Israel stopping strikes on Lebanon. Well, Isel
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  Speaker 1: did not stop strikes on eleven. In other words, somebody
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  Speaker 1: bribed them Taveras's fire. Supposedly, the United States and KATA
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  Speaker 1: reportedly facilitated the deal with guarantees you have to you know, missiles,
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  Speaker 1: blockade civil deaths. Uh, you know, money money. The Iranians
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  Speaker 1: are desperate for cash, so Trump gave them cash. So again,
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  Speaker 1: report by one media source. How to tell if this
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  Speaker 1: is true, But I wouldn't put it past the American
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't put it past this administration at all. Now. Trump
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  Speaker 1: this morning was also saying, kept saying, keep saying, constantly
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  Speaker 1: saying that there's a and media has been reporting that
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  Speaker 1: there's a new Iranian proposal that is very very close,
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  Speaker 1: very close to being finalized. They're basically four issues regarding
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  Speaker 1: the nuclear program that Iran's given in a lot and
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  Speaker 1: it's very close to figuring out kind of the technical details.
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  Speaker 1: But a deal, a deal is ready to be signed
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  Speaker 1: within days, Trump keeps saying another hand, we constantly hear
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  Speaker 1: from the Uranians that no new proposal was sent from
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  Speaker 1: you on to the United States. Indeed, according to faz
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  Speaker 1: the Iranian state backed media, they're denying reports that any
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  Speaker 1: kind of revised Iranian proposal was sent. And they're saying
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  Speaker 1: that you know that they're doing nothing within rich uranium,
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  Speaker 1: They're not transferring to another country, They're not going to
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  Speaker 1: dilute it, and that everything that Trump is basically saying
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  Speaker 1: is false.
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  Speaker 2: Go figure what actually is going on. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea, but they have it.
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  Speaker 1: Good, all right. One of the consequences as well, we
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  Speaker 1: talked about this weeks ago. One of the consequences that
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  Speaker 1: are blocking the states of Homos is that, uh, the
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  Speaker 1: Gulf States are going to figure out ways to get
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  Speaker 1: around the strait to deliver to deliver the oil and
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  Speaker 1: natural gas without going through the streets. And supposedly today
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  Speaker 1: Turkey and Saudi Arabia signed a massive railway corporation deal
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  Speaker 1: in riadd It's it's still a memorandum of other standings,
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  Speaker 1: it's not an actual deal deal and the sort of
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  Speaker 1: advanced plans for a modern railway that would connect portions
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  Speaker 1: of western Saudi Arabia up through Jordan and Syria and
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  Speaker 1: into Turkey and to Turkish ports on the Mediterranean, which
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  Speaker 1: would then deliver oil or whatever else is being shipped
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  Speaker 1: along these tracks. There's also talk of also talk of
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  Speaker 1: connecting this railway to to UAE, potentially to you Rock
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  Speaker 1: and Quait and to the Gulf. And of course there's
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  Speaker 1: extensive talks about building new pipelines, pipelines that would take
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  Speaker 1: again oil and natural gas through Jordan and Syria into Turkey.
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  Speaker 1: Now this will strengthen Turkey's position in the Middle East dramatically.
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  Speaker 1: A note that a couple of months ago, the discussion
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  Speaker 1: was these all these new routes would go through Israel,
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  Speaker 1: but that depended on Israel in the United States winning
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  Speaker 1: the war against Iran. Israel coming out of this world strong, victorious,
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  Speaker 1: and Iran no longer being a dramatic threat, would have
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  Speaker 1: really integrated Israel into the Middle East, primarily through the
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  Speaker 1: Saudist and would have somewhat marginalized Tooki and Syria. But
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  Speaker 1: the opposite has happened. The United States has proven to
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  Speaker 1: be a weak ally. Israel has proven to be beholden
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  Speaker 1: to the United States. As a consequence, Saudi Arabia and
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  Speaker 1: others are looking for alternatives, and those alternatives it's just
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  Speaker 1: as easy to go through Syria and took you a
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  Speaker 1: little longer than to go to Israel. Now Syria has
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  Speaker 1: an Islamist regime, took he has duan an Islamist regime.
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  Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia is trying to be more.
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  Speaker 1: Moderate, but could easily swing back towards being more Islamist.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like it would really go against the DNA,
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  Speaker 1: and this potentially the alliance of Saudi Arabia Syrian Tuki
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  Speaker 1: not good now good for Israel and not good for
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  Speaker 1: the United States. Not good for the region, but an
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  Speaker 1: inevitable consequence of the United States not winning decisively Saudi Arabia. Also,
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  Speaker 1: I think if this continues, if really what we get
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  Speaker 1: is is basically no ultimate resolution and the equivalent of
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  Speaker 1: an Israeli of an American surrender or an American defeat.
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  Speaker 1: The Saudis are going to want protection, They're not going
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  Speaker 1: to get it from the US. They've got some kind
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  Speaker 1: of deal with the Pakistanis, but they don't know if
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  Speaker 1: they can trust the Pakistanis. What would be the ultimate
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  Speaker 1: self defense weapon for the Saudis well, the same one
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  Speaker 1: that the Iranians want. I think you'll see the Saudis
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  Speaker 1: try to get a nuclear bomb. They probably won't build it,
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  Speaker 1: They'll probably try to just buy it from Pakistan. Pakistan
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  Speaker 1: has plenty, and the Saudis might just try to buy
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  Speaker 1: it from the Pakistanis.
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  Speaker 2: And I think a deal.
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  Speaker 1: Between the US and Yuan that is perceived to reflect
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  Speaker 1: American weakness is going to generally increase nuclear proliferation around
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  Speaker 1: the world, including by the Saudis, and that's just not good.
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  Speaker 2: Saudi regime is not a stable regime.
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  Speaker 1: It is, you know, moments away from being dramatically raped
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  Speaker 1: into an Islamist regime. All it takes is somebody assassinating NBS.
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  Speaker 1: Do we really want another Muslim country to have a bomb?
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  Speaker 1: Do we will want another country that could easily fall
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  Speaker 1: into the hands of the Islamis, the Jihadis, the suicide
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  Speaker 1: are bombers to have a bomb. That would be insane
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  Speaker 1: for the West to allow that to happen. But that's
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  Speaker 1: the consequence of losing. It's the consequence of losing. And
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  Speaker 1: by the way, let's be very clear what losing means here.
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  Speaker 1: The United States didn't lose to the Uranian military. The
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  Speaker 1: Iranian military is meaningless. The US's loss is a loss
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  Speaker 1: of will, not of military capabilities. Again, in the United
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  Speaker 1: States has the mightiest military force in the world and
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  Speaker 1: in all of human history. It could take out any
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  Speaker 1: army in the world. You know, Chinese are the only
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  Speaker 1: ones that have any chance. But you need the will,
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  Speaker 1: You need the spirit of winning, of going into battle
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  Speaker 1: to win, going into war to win. Anyway, Iran is
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  Speaker 1: is confirming that it is that it will uh have
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  Speaker 1: a definitive response to tonight's American strike uh, And it'll
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  Speaker 1: be interesting to see if they actually do and what
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  Speaker 1: that response is and who they attack and is in America?
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  Speaker 2: Is the UE, Is it Quit? Is it Bahrain?
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  Speaker 1: It is hard to tell. So you know, we will
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  Speaker 1: see what the Ranians are claiming, at least that they
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  Speaker 1: will respond. They will respond. I have no idea what
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  Speaker 1: that means. And it's you know, it's hard to tell
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  Speaker 1: with the Iranians, right, all right, it looks like you
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  Speaker 1: Indian naval bases were hit hard. Bandos Cirik Naval base
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  Speaker 1: confirmed struck. Valayette Naval Base in Jusk was also possibly targeted.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Six separate air strikes who are puted on Custom Island,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: all minutes apart from one another. So the United States,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you know, they decided to go not all out, but
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: they pushed it, pushed it all right, Let's see, we'll
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: keep watching that. Uh. They also supposedly hit drone manufacturing sites.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I thought we took all those out already, surprised there
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: any due manufacturing sites left.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: They're calling itself defense after, you know, because of the thing.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh right, supposing the unions are going to hit
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: within minutes, the decisive response will be within minutes. So
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: if it is within minutes, we will be here live
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: reporting on it on the Iran bookshow.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, one more story coming out of that part of
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the world.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Suppose to the Israeli Prime Minister Nettaniell won the Security
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Cabinet yesterday that Israel may reach a point where it
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: has to confront you run without US support. According to this,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: he spoke during cabinet meeting on Monday. He said Israel
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: could face the situation which it would have to quote
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: deal alone with the Iranians without American backing, and with
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the costs it would entail, including shortages of immunition and
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: growing international isolation. He said, quote we do not want
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: to get there, but we know we could get there.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: At the same time, IDF Chief of Staff I al
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Zamir also reportedly warn ministers against the emerging agreement with
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Iran between the US and Iran, saying, quote, as we
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: see it, almost any agreement is a bad agreement. So yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, Israel's white. I mean it's good. If Isel
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: just does it alone and gets you know, settles settles it,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: it will face real ammunition problems. So it's going to
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: have to figure out I mean, it's it's got a
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: significant military industry. It's going to have to figure out
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the things that it relies on today, the things that
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: it relies on today in the United States, how does
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: it create capacity in Israel to cover them. Iran can't
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: expand it doesn't have the resources, and whatever military it
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: had will have in the future is going to be pathetic.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: The only major power in the Middle East is Israel
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: and that's not going to change.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: That is not going to change anytime anytime soon. All right,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Let's see, so I guess earlier today, was it today
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: or yesterday?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yesterday?
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Massey, who just lost his primary and there
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: August has nothing to lose. I went on the House
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: floor and gave a speech blaming the United States. This
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: is blaming the sorry blaming Israel for attacking the USS liberty,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: the USS liberty, you know during the nineteen sixty seven war,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven, what is that, you know, fifty nine
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: years ago, making a big deal out of it, and
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: demanding that we need a new investigation launched by the
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: US government into the circumstances of what happened.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Fifty nine years ago.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Now, Massi is never in his career mentioned this. This
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: is a first.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: The attack on the US is liberty by the is
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Uelis during the Sixth Day War.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Is always a.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Launching pad, if you will, a launching point for anti
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Semitic conspiracy theories. Massi is going to become only more
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and more and more of an anti Semite from Huron.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: This is what happens. The US is liberty is a
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: lynchpan in all American anti Semitic stories. It's I've talked
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: about this on the show in the past. He wants
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: a new investigation. There've been eleven investigations of USS liberty
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: case eleven eleven. The first investigation right after the event
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: on June eighteenth, nineteen sixty seven. Presiding officer was Rear
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Admiral Isaac Kidd. Found no evidence of intentional attack. The
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: verdict was mistaken identity. There's a CIA memorandum. Intelligence memorandum
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: dated June thirteenth, nineteen sixty seven, found no malice.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Attack was a mistake.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: A JCS fact finding team on June eighteenth, nineteen sixty seven,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: right he's all immediately after Fresh examined the US Military
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Committe vacations handling before and during the attack. Clark Clifford Report,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: July eighteenth, nineteen sixty seven. Presentational Advisor Clifford found no
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: evidence the ship was known to be American State Department
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Salens Report September nineteen sixty seven. Legal and diplomatic assessment
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: by State Department Council called Salans, same conclusion. Senate Foreign
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Relations Committee nineteen sixty seven. Secretary McNamara testifies there's no
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: evidence attack is new. It was the US Ship House
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Appropriations Committee nineteen sixty seven, and then again in nineteen
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: seventy one. NSA Officials brief Congress on Liberty's Mission and
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Communication failure and found no reason to believe Israel did
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: this on purpose. Senate so A Committee on Intelligence seventy
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: nine and then eighty one found no merit to claims
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the attack was intentional. NSA internal report, the Girlhard Report
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, concluded the the scepts tended to rule
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: out any thesis that Israeli Navy and Air Force deliberately
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: attacked the ship they knew to be. American House Services
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Committee ninety one ninety two found no support for the
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: claim the attack was intentional, Say Department Conference and Documents
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: released January two thousand and four released all remaining classified
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: CIA and NSA memos. NSA historian David Hatch stated the
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: evidence quote strongly suggested Israel did not know it was
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: attacking a US vessel.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: But we need another one.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: We need another one because the anti Semites will always claim,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: oh no, it's APAK, APEC bribed all these people, APAC
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: is behind it all. I mean, you know, just ask yourself,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: in the midst of a sixty war, now, US is
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: not a full out allied unit of Israel because you know,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: it wasn't supplying weapons they as well at that point.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: But in the midst of the sixth day.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Why would Israel?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Why would Israel.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Bomber US ship?
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is that this was a tragic
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: for friendly fire incident, felloughly invested for decades, and all
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: of them showed the same thing, friendly fire accident. And
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: it's not like it's not like they haven't been, you know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: fendy fires before. Yeah, you know, findy fire is a
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: common attribute of warfare.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: And here's what the conspiracy.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Theory asks you to believe. At the time, as Well
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: had two and a half million people, it was fighting
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: for its literal survival on six fronts simultaneously against one
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: hundred ten million Arabs, equipped with Soviet tanks, Soviet aircraft,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: and Soviet warships, and with no formal American alliance, no
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: American weapons, and no guarantee that anyone was coming to
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: save them, indeed a knowledge that nobody.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Was coming to save them.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: So on day four of this war, Israel, this tiny
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: little country fighting for survival against a Soviet armed enemy,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: decides out of nowhere to deliberately attack the one country
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: on Earth that might eventually one day become an ally,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: and to do so in broad daylight, in international waters
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: living on the seventy fourth survivors who could identify their
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: tanking forces what fourteen separate investigations had got Two governments
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: found zero evidence of intent. Israel's own military had accidentally
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: bombed its own armored column the day before, which, again
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: it is not unusual. It's just such a bizarre conspiracy theories,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: of all the things to do, it's just.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Weird.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: And by the way, it's the only friendly fire case
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: that people keep repeating, Why why aren't the British pist
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: off at the fact that the US killed a bunch
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: of British soldiers during Gulf War One? Because it is well,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: did I mean the US did it killed a bunch
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: of Britty soldiers accidentally? Maybe who knows, Maybe it wasn't exidentnything.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe the US had an ulterior motive to killing the
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: British soldiers. I mean even the Israelis, you know, these
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Raelis weren't this They immediately let the Americans know that
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: this is that you don't apologize for it. You know.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: In the Israeli Naval Museum in Haifa, there's a memorial
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: to the victims of the USS Liberty. May their memories
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: be an eternal blessing is and the names of all
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: their casualties are listed there as always done nothing but
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: treat this with respect. Open up the books. It's bizarre.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: The whole thing is, it's only because it's Israel. It's
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: only because Jews are involved. And if you look at
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: the at the thirty five incidents during the nineteen ninety
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: one Go War, there are one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: sixteen such incidents in a matter of five days. Sixteen
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: incidents in a matter of five days, most of them
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: US killing US, some of the US killing UK. It's
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: war fog of war accidents happen. But for a congressman
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: like Massey, who's not stupid, who knows all this, he's
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: figured his base of support, his future in the Republican
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Party is among the anti Semites, and he is going
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: to play to them. He's going to cultivate them, he
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: is going to work with them. And this is his announcement.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: He's coming out. He's coming out, I'm an anti Semite.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Well now you know, I'm on the USS liberty conspiracy theory. Yay.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: And sadly, so much of the people calling themselves libertarians.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: So many of the people calling themselves libertarians or exactly
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: this crazy conspiracy theory antisemitic nuts. Another reason why I
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: do not call myself a libertarian. I am not a libertarian.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Keep me away from.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Those guys, all right. So a few days ago I
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: did a story on the murder of.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Eighteen year old Henry Noak in the UK by a
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Sikh by a Sikh, and I got an email there
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: was critical of my analysis, saying that I had made
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: some errors in it. And it turned out that most
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: of criticism of what I had said was was was
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: true that you know.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: It wasn't.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's spurred. What I said
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: was wrong.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I think fundamentally was right, and I will I'll emphasize that.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: But certain details were glossed over and when accurate, and
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: too much of the framing was the framing of the
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: kind of the right in the UK who are trying
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: to make.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: This into a political issue, and it does have a
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: political issue. We'll get to that.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: So I wanted, I wanted to, you know, come clean,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: and I wanted to do a more thorough analysis of
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: what actually happened there, because this is making the news,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: particularly in Europe and particularly in the UK, but it
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: is all over the place and it's important to get
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the analysis right. So step one, This has been tried
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: in court, I think a jury and a judge and
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: the murderer. The murderer is sick by the name a Seekh,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: by the name of Vikuum Singh. Digua was sentenced. So
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: it was found guilty of murder and sentence and the
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: judge actually wrote a reporter in the in sentencing Digua,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: he wrote a report describing what happens. So I'm just
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: gonna basically summarize what the judge said, so you get
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: you get a sense of what happened. Now, Digua was
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: sentenced to the life in prisident prisonment for murdering Henry Noak,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: eighteen year old student. Now, the minimum term he got
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: a minimum term of twenty years and one hundred and
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: ninety days. Really twenty one years. He got one hundred
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: and seventy five days deducted because he's already spent those
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: in custody. That's the minimum sentence. The sentence is a
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: life sentence, which is the sentence for murder with a
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: minimum of twenty one years. So after twenty one years
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: he would be eligi uh for provol Now, what happened,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: according to the judge, and according to Jewy sand may Nook,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: an eighteen year old student at Southampton University walking back
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: to his accommodation after an evening out. And the judge
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: here emphasized that Henry was alone, he was unarmed, and
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: that he was not drunk. His blood alcohol level was
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: below the legal drinking limit. Anyway, he encountered Digua and
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: as what the judge called a chance meeting. Right, Digo
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: is sober as well, and was carrying two knives. I
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: talked about this when we last, when I did the show.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Two knives, one which is a small kipon, which is
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: a knife that legally in the UK you're not allowed
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: to carry a knife, not allowed, it's illegal to carry
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: a knife, right, But seeks allowed to carry a kipon
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: is because it's part of their religion that you have
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: to carry a knife.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: But he also carried a large Sikh dagga in a sheath.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Now, this dagga is supposedly a requirement that you wear
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: as part of a particular.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Segment of the you know, a particular type of seek.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I talked about that also on the show the other day,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: and that was visible on the outside of his clothing,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: this big dagga he's walking on the street with. The
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: judge accepted that Digua was a Sikh and a member
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: of the Nin Hung tradition. This is a tradition where
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: you get to carry this large dagga, but stressed that
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: wearing the large, visible second knife was not a strict
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: religious requirement. The judge said the legal religious privilege of
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: carrying such a blade brings with its huge responsibilities and
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: that a kipon is not to be used offensively except
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: as the last result in genuine self defense. Now, Henry
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: apparently saw the dagger and took out his phone and
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: started filming Digwo and asked him if he was a
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: bad man.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Now, according to the judge.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: According to the judge, Henry's stone was not aggressive and
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: it was not threatening there. It was obviously, according to
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: the judge, and reality a tragic era of judgment. Don't
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: harass people carrying big daggers. I think that's generally a
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: good rule.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Just walk away. Digo responded that he was a bad man.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: This is all based on I think the video from
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the victim's phone that he was a bad man. He
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: moved towards Henry and took Henry's phone, and the judge
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: concluded that Digo was not frightened. Rather he felt disrespected,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: especially because he was being filmed. Struggle began right probably
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: because Henry was trying to get his phone back, and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: it's possible that in that altercation, diguas turbine, the thing
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the Seeks were on their head, was knocked or pulled off,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: which probably added to Dego's anger. Digua, you know, according
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: to the judge, should have exercise self restrain and control
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: and then even strong words or a verbal threat might
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: have been justified. But no more, this is the judge writing.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Digo then deliberately drew the dagger stabbed Henry in the chest.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: A fatal wound went about eight centimeters deep, passed through
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: the upper ribs, caught a lung uh and uh, and
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: cut an important vein behind the collarbone. The pathologists found
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: about you know, a lot of blood in Henry's chest
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: from that, and probably there was no way to save
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: him at this point. He was dead as soon as
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: that dagger went and hit that that vein. Henry was
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: also stabbed twice in that a leg, once in the
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: lower abdomen goin area, and slashed in the face. The
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: judge Henry was effectively defenseless after one or more of
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: the blows, but contrast, Digua had little if any injury,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: and the judge noted noted there was no independent evidence
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: a meaningful injury to him, so there's no argument here
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: that this is self defense or an appropriate response. Now.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: The judge also made a big deal out of the
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: fact that Digua lied. Judge repeatedly called Digua count a lie.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Digua claimed Henry had barged into him, attacked him, and
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: racially abused him.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: The judge rejected all of that.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: He said it was sure Henry had said nothing racist
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and that the accusation was completely inconsistent with Henry's character.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: And I think the audio that they got off the
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: phone after the stabbing, Digua filmed Henry while Henry was
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: suffering and trying to get away. He denied that Henry
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: had been stabbed, even though he knew he'd been stabbed
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: in the chest. He told his mother to take away
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: the murder weapon, sheath and belt. He also kept Henry's phone,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: which contained incriminating footage and had no intention.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Of handing it over to the police.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: And then there is actually a police recording of Digua
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: speaking to his brother where he admits that he stabbed
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Henry three times. He was doing it in whatever language,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: their own language, so he thought it wouldn't be understood,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: but they translated it.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: It was a police recording in the and.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Admitted that each stab Henry three times, including once in
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: the chest, and agreed to pretend it it had been
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: self defense. The judge said Digue knew he was guilty
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: and was trying to cover it up. So you know
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: why the sentence twenty Why was twenty one years the sentence?
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: So for murder, a sentence in the UK is life imprisonment.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: The legal question was the minimum term before parole considerations, right,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: So the judge applied what's called Schedule twenty one of
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: the Sentencing Act of twenty twenty and started at fifteen years,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: not twenty five, because he found Digua had not taken
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: the knife to the scene for the purpose of committing
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: an offense.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: So because the knife.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Was part of the tradition, he started with the lower rate.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: If he had not been a Sikh.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: One wonders if he would have started with the lower rate,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: so he started at fifteen years. He said it was
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: possible Digwo initially had a legal religious reason for carrying
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: the dagga, though that justification ended once he removed it
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: from his seeth and used it. The judge then raised
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: a minimum turn to twenty three years because of aggravating factors.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Multiple stabbings, the use of a highly dangerous weapon, Henry
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: suffering as he lay dying, the degradation of filming him,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: the cover up blaming Henry, involving his mother and removing
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: the weapon, Henry's vulnerability as an unarmed eighteen year old alone,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the wider community impact whatever that means, the misleading of police,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: and the abuse of legal privilege given to Sikhs to
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: carry a knife for religious reasons. So the abuse of
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the legal privilege giving to seeks to carry and I
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: for legal reasons religious reasons was one of a whole
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: list here of reasons to increase it to twenty three years. Now,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know, this seems like a pretty damning list.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: And this is murder we're talking about.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Granted, you know, I don't know.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: How UK law works. This could be completely reasonable. But
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: it strikes me that for murder, I don't know. I'm
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: a big believer in murder. You throw away the keys.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: It's life sentence and that's it. That is it. And
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: giving all these aggravating, the lying, the involving his mother,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: they're trying to cover it up, the filming, the basically
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: no remorse.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: He should have got a lot more than twenty three years.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Now he reduced it in twenty one years for mitigating
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: factors Digo's age and lack of previous convictions and the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: lack of premeditation.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, so it's not premeditated murder.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: It still seems light to me twenty one years for
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: something like this, Right, So that's the judge's statement.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: That's the story.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Now there is an additional controversy, and this is where
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: the politics come in, Right, this is where the politics
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: come in. The police arrive the light to bys Digua
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: and potentially other family members were there, and they conclude
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: that no, Work is not the victim, that he is
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: the perpetrator. They handcuff him as he is telling them
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I've been stabbed. I can't breathe, and when he says
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I've been stabbed, the police officer says, and I can't breathe.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: The police officer says, and this is from webcam. Ohkam's
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: the office war. I don't think you have made without checking.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Now it's dark, no work is wearing dark clothes. But
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: that is that very minimum a massive failure by the police.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: As somebody tells you the stabbed, You check, you, you touch,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: if it's dark, you they have flashlights. You're sick to
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: see what's going on. By the time they did, you
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: know Noak was dying. Now they granted they couldn't have
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: done anything anyway, So clearly something went wrong here, right,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: there's there's a bad judgment on the part of the police.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Even allowing for darkness, even aliwing for the confusion and
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Digoay's lies, the police have seemed to have made a
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: serious failure of judgment. They didn't sufficiently test the story
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: they were given, They did not treat Noak's own statement
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: as urgent medical evidence, and they restrained a gravely wounded man.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: I think the police commissioner has already acknowledged serious concerns
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: quote serious concerns about police impartiality, fitness and judgment, and
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: they apologized for it. Now Obviously the police didn't cause
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: the death because he was dying anyway. He's gonna die anyway,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: but they might have if the injuries had been different. Right,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: So clearly bad judgment. And then the question is was
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: the bad judgment related to what is called true tier policing.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: That is the idea that in the UK, at least.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: There is UH you know, if you're if you're.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: You know, if you are anthic minority, then you get.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: If you're white, you're not believed. Whether that is real.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Now, there is real concern about this, and look, there's
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: plenty of evidence that the police are hesitant to go
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: after criminals because of ethnicity, because they do not want
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: to be blamed for being racist. Again, I think the
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I think the grooming gangs is a great example of this,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: and I think not enough has been made of those
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: grooming gangs given how horrific what they did was. So
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: what do we what's going on here? Sorry? See, here's
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: the thing about UH policing in the UK and and
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: kind of the the UH the there is a in
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: in the UK there is a police anti racism commitment
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: that has language that is deeply problematic. It says, for example,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: that racial equity means producing equality of policing outcomes. What
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: does that even mean? Does that mean if you arrest
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: to blacks, you have to arrest to whites? Does that
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: mean if you arrest to Muslims you have to arrest
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: to Christians? What does that mean? It says that you
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: the police need to respond to people according to the
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: specific needs, circumstances, and experiences and explicity says quote. It
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: does not mean treating everyone the same or being colorblind.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: So they're discourage not to be color blind. Now, this
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that in this particular case, this is what
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: happened to the police that they believed Digwall because he
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: seek and they didn't believe No Wak because he was white.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: We don't know that their.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Inquiries going on into that right now. But it does
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: mean that they're being trained in kind of the anti
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: racist language and perspective of the of the woke only
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: two thousands that basically says, you know, whites are guilty
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: of racism by the very fact that they're white, and
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: that you do need to have two tier policing.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: They're being trained in. It doesn't mean they behaved that way.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I mean the fundamental stand it should be you know,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: identify the victim, identify the threat, preserved life, gather facts, identity.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Politics should not be involved.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: We will see what actually comes out of the inquiries
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: that are being launched around us. And there are a
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: bunch of inquiries right so, you know, the police were
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: misled by diguas and made a catastrophic era under pressure,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: no question about that. But to what extent was that
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Were they open to that misleading because of an anti
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: racist in quotation Mark Stunt, really anti racist kind of
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: racist ideology which has been part of police training in
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: the UK over the last few years. Look, there is
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: plenty of racism out there, racism towards people of various
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: ethnic groups and the so called anti racism of the
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: some members of those ethnic groups towards whites and authorities
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: towards you know, towards both parties. There's sadly lots of
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: racism out there. But you know, cases like there's a
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: good opportunities to evaluate police training, and police should be
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: trained in being color blind, in being objective. The question
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: is would the outcome being exactly the same if the
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: ethnicities have been reversed.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know, We don't know and again we'll see
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: what the outcomes suggests.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: But do I believe that the woke, anti racist racists
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: are influencing policing all over Europe and in the UK
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: in favor of often it's Muslims, but generally, you know.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: People of color. Yes, I do.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Do also believe there's racism against those people.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Both can occur at the same time, and both do
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: occur at the same time. I think it's much more
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: prevalent in Europe than the US. You're seeing it, and
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: you're seeing it with all the you know, releasing of
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: terrorists early and you know we did, we did a
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: story on this where we covered this. You know, you
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: saw it in some of the coverage of you know,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: increases in rape in the twenty teens after the big
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Muslim immigration into Europe during that period. You're seeing it
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: in and used again. You saw in the grooming gangs,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: and you saw it in the in the way terrorists
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: are treated. So you've got to be on the lookout
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: for this, and you've you've got to call it. Justice
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: must be color blind. Justice must be blind, right is
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: the terminology? All Right?
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: That is my corrective on on the story.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: I think We've covered everything I needed to cover. All right,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: let's see, but that's that where we now? All right, Yeah,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I mean there's a story in the Financial Times. It
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: was really interesting and this is about this is about
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: a I uh and this is just this is going
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: to be a repeated story that we're going to have
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: to cover over and over and over again. The title
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: of the story is the coming rise of anti AI popularism.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Anxiety about technology is set to generate a political backlash.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: It shows that Americans, about seventy percent of Americans think
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: AI is developing too fast. Americans are also worried about
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: they're going to lose jobs, They're worried about cost of
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: electricity and water, They're worried about doomsday scenarios involving AI.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: The data center buildout is raising, you know, is rating
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of activists to block it. And this is
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: happening in red states and in blue states. Funnily enough,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: most of the most of the buildout for AI data
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: centers is happening in blue states, and there's a lot
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: of activism against that. You're also seeing among Republicans are
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: split between kind of the more traditional pro business Republicans
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: and the Josh Hawley's of the world right, who are
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Josh Holly is anti AI, and Trump right now is
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: perceived as representing the pro AI faction. But this is
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: of course across the board. We heard yesterday, I told
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: you about about a proposal by Bernie Sanders to actually
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: take the government should take fifty percent stake in all
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: AI companies. Trump kind of agrees with that, although he
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: doesn't think it should be that high.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe only ten, maybe only twenty percent.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Right now, AI is less popular than it's less popular
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: than Ice.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: It's it's, you know, really unpopular, and it's not going anywhere.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: It's only going to become a bigger and bigger part
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: of our lives, and has become a bigger and bigger
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: part of our lives. It will become a political football.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: So you know, something to watch, something we will keep
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: track of. Here's the Foreign Minister of Iran saying, despite
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: its defeat on the battlefield, the US opted to test
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: out determination how powerful armed forces will leave no attack
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: of threat unanswered.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Leave our region if you want to be safe.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: History of the Persian Gulf has many chapters on dire
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: fates of intruding ours. I mean, the only person who
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: lies more than the leadership of Iran is Donald Trump.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: I mean they know they have no capacity to respond.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: A separate story about AI is you know, obviously, the infrastructure,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: the building out of data centers is generating a huge
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: demand for skilled blue collar workers, welders and people who
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: can build these massive electricians, fiber technicians, mechanical trades people,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: people who can build and then maintain data centers. In
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: response to this Meta, which is of course the company
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: that owns Facebook Meta has Menahas is offering free training
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: for people to work in its data centers, and it
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: guarantees them a job in a skilled trade after completing
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: a five recourse. So it is committing one hundred and
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars to the program, which is open to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: qualified veterans, career changes, and others who want to enter
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: the skill trades. The initiative is dubbed America's Workforce Academy.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: It will first launch in Indiana, Louisiana, Ohio, and Texas.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: To quote the press release, it says every graduate will
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: leave with a verified industry standard credential in high demand
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: fields such as electric mechanical systems and plumbing.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Technology.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Companies. You know, all these data centers are going to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: need all these workers. I think this is great that
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: the technology companies are offering to train people in these skills,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: skills that they'll be able to use, you know, after
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: they work on this. So this is part of the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: good news. And uh yeah, it's it's pretty cool that
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: the technology companies are stepping up to this. All right.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: I just want to remind you because way behind a
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: fundraising goal, I want to remind you that we do
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: have goals, and we did okay yesterday, but we need
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: to do okay every day. Time is every day. Time
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't get free as the week progresses. So ask questions,
• 1:04:41
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• 1:04:44
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• 1:04:48
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• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: You can ask for two dollars. You can ask for
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: five hundred dollars. That's the max is five hundred. We are,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: you know, we a way short of our targets for today,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: so police consider coming in with some kind of support.
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  Speaker 2: Value for value.
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  Speaker 1: All right, sadday today, I mean this actually happened a
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: couple of days ago, but over the weekend. Gordons Would,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: the American historian, was actually you know, run over in
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: a parking lot at I guess a grocery store. He's
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: ninety two years old and he died of his injuries.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Gordon Wood, it is probably the number one historian on
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: the American founding. He you know, wrote influential books and
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: you know, generally speaking, was one of the good guys.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: He was actually Bradley Thompson. Bradley Thompson has been on
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: the show. He was actually Badley Thompson's dissitation advisor. So
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Bradley brad worked, you know, studied under Wood and remained
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: quite friendly with him. It was actually bad Wood was
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: supposed to come down to Clemson in the summer to
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: participate in a in one of bad programs were students.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: So this is a real tragic, a real force and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: you know, somebody who I think had a profound understanding
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: of what America represents and what America is really about.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I think I read to you some sections of an
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: op ed he wrote just the Theay towards the end
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: of last year, in November five, the title of the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: op ed this was in the Wall Street Journal, was
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: why America is a cred ale nation. So this is
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: an op ed written in response to the JD. Vances
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: of the world and others who claim that America is
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: blood and soil heritage Americans, and either Wood wrote a
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: good up ad arguing that no, that this is indeed
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: a country that would unifies it are not ethnicity, not
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: so called race, but what unifies it is our ideas.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: And here again I agree with him, primarily the ideas
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: of the Declaration. And Golden Wood is one of the
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: few people out there, a few historians, I think out there,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: who understood the important significance of the Declaration of Independence,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Declaration of Independance, which is what shaped America, which would
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: made America America. Indeed, as I've said many times, you
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: can't understand the Constitution, and you cannot understand America. You
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: cannot understand the success, the growth, the expansion, the wealth,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: the power of America divorced of the Declaration of vandics.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: I'll actually be talking about that at okhonn this year.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: So you know, the Declaration was what made America America.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: And he understood that America was a country of the Enlightenment, right,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: so the they tried, you know, so he was. He
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: was one of the few who really, you know, under
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: stood this is a land of rights. This is a land.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: This is a country established on the foundation of all
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: men are created equal, equal in rights, the right to light.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: And this is why this is a land of immigrant immigrants,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: and that what binds us together again, what makes America America?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Is this the ideas in the Declaration.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: This was his final paragraph in that our aad Since
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: the whole world is the is in the United States,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: nothing but the ideals coming out of the Revolution and
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: the subsequent rich and contentious history can can turn such
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: an assortment of different individuals into the one people that
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: the Declaration says we are. To be an American is
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: not to be someone, but to believe in something. That
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: is why we had haught a credo nation. And that
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: is why the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Declaration next year is so important. One of the sad
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: things about his passing is the fact that he didn't
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: get a chance. He didn't get a chance to experience
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the document that
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: he said was the most important political document in American history,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: the Declaration of Independence. So I salute Gordon Wood, a
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: great historian, an historian of America, an historian who understood
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: and you know, I'm sure I disagree with things that
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: he wrote. You know, he was not an objectivist. He
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: didn't have an objectives perspective on the revolution. But he
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: had an enlightenment perspective on the revolution. And that is
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: so rare these days that you've got to celebrate the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: few who actually share that with us. So, yeah, sad,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: sad loss if you want. Bad did write a post
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: on some of his memories from his relationship with Wood
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: on his on his substack, so you can check that out.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: All right, Again, I remind you come in with stickers,
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  Speaker 1: come in with questions. We've got a few questions, not many.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: So the Q and A, the super chat section of
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: the show is going to be all right, Human achievement time.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: We should have like a drum rall thing for human achievement.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: We should have a special sound that announcers the good
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: news of of of you know, shifting shifting.
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  Speaker 2: To positive topics.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, here's one, right, This is the This is the
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: headline from a story in The Times the and this
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: is from Tampa, Florida, and it says nearly nine hundred
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: lives have been saved a Tampa General Hospital in Florida
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: in the four years since it introduced the game changing
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Sepsis Hub. It's a system developed in partnership with Palenteer. Palenteer,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: which is known primarily for defense AI software that sits
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: in weapons systems and surveillance systems, also works with hospitals.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: That turns out and in this case, a you know,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: a hub that helps identify sepsis cases so that they're
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: treated quickly and uses AI to guide treatment. And yeah,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: I mean this is this is amazing. And again you're
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: going to see more and more and more of this.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately the story itself was behind a paywall, but I
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: think just the headline suggests good things. Here's another one,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: also from the space of healthcare. This is what we're
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: getting most of our good stories these days. And AI,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: you know, was trained on two hundred thousand brain MRIs.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: This is at the University of Michigan and basically all
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: the two hundred thousand brain MRIs. This is the entire
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: digital library since radiology went digital at the university. The
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: AI can now help diagnose over fifty neurological conditions in
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: seconds with a ninety seven percent accuracy.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: It knows which.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Cases need urgent care, well knows is a little strong,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: right again, with the help of a physician, It knows
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: which specialist to call. It does all of it, you know,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: really fast. The AI is called Prima. It just upperform
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: every other AI model tested against it. And again, this
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: is kind of stuff that radiologist takes years to study.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Now it can't do this without a radiologist, right, This
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: is an AI that is going to triage and classify
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: being MRIs as part of a process where it works
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: with a radiologist and urologist a clinical team responsible for
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: treat patient care. But it's gonna increase productivity in medicine dramatically.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: And what it means to increase productivity in medicine, it
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: means quicker diagnosis, quicker treatment, better treatment, better recovery, more
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: life likes death.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: That's what it means.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: And that is.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Really cool, really cool.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: And then finally, from the world of energy, this one's
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: not a technology. This one is finally some of these
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: energy companies you know acknowledging reality. But It's Petroleum, which
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: for many years was one of the leaders in the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: alternative energy field and a leader in advocating for net zero,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: has basically restructured its corporate its corporation and relegated the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: zero division to a much lower status than it used
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: to have. The oil and gas giant confirmed plans on
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: Tuesday to split its business into two distinct segments, upstream
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: and downstream. It currently operates with three business divisions, including
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: one focused on gas and low carbon energy that's gone.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: The restructuring is part of a continued effort to win
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: over shareholders. Yeah, people want a return on their investment
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: and a lot of skepticism about zero emission, about climate
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: change hysteria, And they kicked out the chairman of the
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: board last month, and you know again, they've divided upstream
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: and downstream. Upstream team will include VP's oil and gas
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: operations exploration and or production. It will also include carbon
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: capture and storage business fine it's downstream division when included refineries, pipelines, biofuels, aviation, hydrogen,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: and it's castro vehicle lubrication offering, its renewable power operations,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: we're previously part of its Gas and Low Carbon group. However,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: these will now be carved off under BP's other Businesses segment,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: as the company said it would continue to advance that,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: but it's.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Just not a priority anymore.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: Over all, good news. I think there's a lot more
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: realism in the world today with regard to.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: The zero with regard to.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: You know, so called alternaive energy or unreliable energy as
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: some call it accurately. So I think you're seeing the
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: sign you can decline in the United States, certainly, but
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: even in Europe of kind of the panic and hysteria
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: over climate change.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Now it could come back, it couldn't come back.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: But one of the reasons parties of the Right seem
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: to be winning all over Europe is because people are
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: fed up with the high gas, with the high energy prices,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: the fed up with the shutting down of nuclear power plants,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: fed up with the shutting down of natural gas.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: They've had enough of the.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: You know, windmills and in zero carbon agenda. And I
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: think that's a big part of the Right winning. So politically,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: the climate change hysteria is a lot less popular and
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: used to.
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  Speaker 3: Be particularly particularly you know, particularly in in Europe where
• 1:19:02
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  Speaker 1: Manifested itself in real political action and therefore real damage
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: and there for real cost.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Of people and people who are beelling against it.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: And that's good. We'll see if it holds. But for now,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: that's good. Would be better if they understood the deep issues.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: All right, that is the news for this June ninth.
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• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: the military attack earlier today. It doesn't look like it.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: It looks like.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not clear.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: It doesn't look like anything has happened. Anyway, we will
• 1:20:15
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• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: they're all kinds of initial reports of ballistic missile shot,
• 1:20:25
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  Speaker 2: That's great, Thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see how you ron How do you respond when
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: someone ugues a diabetic family member would be dead without
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  Speaker 1: government subsidy subsidized insulin. How do you separate the outcome
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  Speaker 1: from the policy mechanism?
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  Speaker 2: PS.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Randall, not rand Okay, Randall stalling. That
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: makes more sense, Randall stalling. Thank you, Randall. I mean
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  Speaker 1: a number of things. I would argue. One, the fact
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  Speaker 1: that you have a the fact that you have a
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: diabetic family member, does not give you a right to
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: the money in my wallet. His diabetics doesn't give him
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: a right to take my money. He doesn't have a
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: claim against my life. He doesn't have a moral claim
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: against me. I'm not responsible for him getting diabetes. He
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't have financial claim against me. So the reality is
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: that whatever happens to him, he can come and ask
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: me to help out because he can't afford the diabetics medication,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: and it might help him. But he doesn't have a
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: right to pull out a gun and take my money.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: And that's what the gunment does. He's basically hired the
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: government to take my money to use to provide him
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: with insulin.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: By what right? By what right? So I always have
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: to make that point.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: Now beyond that, how do you know he'd be dead
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: without the government subsidized insulin? How do you know that
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: if there was a completely privately run healthcare system, how
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: do you know what the price of insulin would be.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe it would be a lot cheaper than it is today,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: and you wouldn't need a government subsidy. Maybe you could
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: afford it. Maybe family members would help out. Maybe a
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: charity would be set up to buy him the insulin.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe because he can't afford the insulin, the drug company
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: would have a charity piece and they would give it
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: to him at a discounted price. I mean, there are
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: so many possibilities here, But in every row home we
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: have seen that the free market lowers prices increase quality.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: In the case of insulin, it would increase competition aboth
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: the insulin and different delivery mechanisms, and my guesses would
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: increase the ficaciousness of the insulin.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: And actually, maybe if we had.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: A free market in healthcare, we'd have, you know, cures
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: for diabetics instead of just treating the symptoms. So there's
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: zero bases.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: To come to the conclusion that without governing subsidies.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: He would be dead.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: And it's callous.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, could these family members not help him? They
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: want me to help him, They demand I help him,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: and you help him. Why don't they help him if
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: they all pull their resource together, can't they buy the insulin?
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, insulin is not that expensive, It really isn't.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: It might be expensive because the government's buying it. Government's
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: not a very good buyer of stuff, But insulin is
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: not that expensive, and in a free market it would
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: be a lot cheaper. Thank you, Andal and Randall has
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: a second question, how you ron, How would you respond
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: to someone is proud to have taken government subsidies for
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: their business because it de risked the investment. How do
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: you distinguish between accepting a subsidy and supporting the policy itself. Well,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: I think there's a big difference by supporting it, by
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: being proud of taking it. You were saying that you
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: are proud of taking your neighbour's money. You're proud of
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: using force against your neighbor in order to benefit yourself. Now,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: I have no doubt that this subsidy has de risked
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: this business, has made it in some way less risky
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: and better for him. But at other people's expense.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: Somebody paid for it.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: Wasn't the government, It was people who got their money
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: taken from them through taxes. Again, how does he get
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: a claim on other people's money. So the only people
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: I think who should accept government subsidies, and again it
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: depends on the circumstances, are people who reject government subsidies.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: And there's a whole essay about.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: This, Like, the government has created this mixed economy in
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: which it's hard to survive, it's how to grow, it's
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: how to live because there's no real free market. So
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: if the government's handing out money, why would I not
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: take it? But I would still argue against it while
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: taking it. That's not hypocrisy, that's recognizing that the government
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: has created the circumstances. I paid a lot of tax
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: money into the system. I'm getting some of it back.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: So I highly recommend people read Iman's essay on accepting
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: a scholarship government scholarship. I think it's a capitalism and
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: unknown ideal.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Rana.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: So I don't blame everybody for taking a subsidy. I
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: definitely blame them for being proud of it. I definitely
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: blame them for supporting the policy of subsidy giving. All right,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: Jennifer says Gouty hose hose Bridge open next opens next week.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: We're going to go across and do some trading with
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: those Canadian people over there, or be careful. I hear
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: the Canadians and askty and dangerous people, and they don't
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: want to become a fifty one state. That that's terrible. Yes,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: the Bidge is opening in spite of Donald Trump's threats.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: Enjoy being able to cross easily into Canada. You know,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: I think this is good for the good for the
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: whole Michigan area. And yeah, this is the Bidge I
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: talked about a few weeks ago about Donald Trump threatening
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: not to allow it to open. So much for Donald
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: Trump's threats. Oh Adam asked a question yesterday just as
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: we were shutting down the program, more of a comment
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: than a question. He says, peptide is a generic concept
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: for any chain of amino acids, including most.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: Medication prescription drugs.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: Only a strict adherent of Christian science can claim that
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: he is not taking peptides. Okay, I didn't realize peptide
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: was such a I had such a broad definition. What
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: I've seen it used is in certain you know, it
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: is in taking on the amino ascids is supposed to
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: have longevity benefits and all kinds of other benefits, and
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: people take peptide and they have a number behind it,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: and you know there's all competition which peptide is better
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: than for you? And the whole websites dedicated to this stuff.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: Peptide is indeed just a generic concept for any chain
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: of amino assets. Yes, I take peptides. Vicrom says, if
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: you had one hundred thousand dollars to invest today, where
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: would you put the money in? Which asset class or market?
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, given valuations right now? And look, I haven't
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: looked at this very closely because I'm not actively investing
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: right now. You know, I would probably still invest one
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand in a diverse fight portfolio of international value stocks,
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: stocks that are generally undervalued. I'm wary of tech right
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: now because it's such high valuation. Now it could all
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: be justified because of AI. But I worry that, you know,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of the numbers look like they did in
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine before the two thousand NaSTA crash. I'm
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: not saying that's going to happen, but I worry about that.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: You know, if I had one hundred thousand that I
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: needed right that, I wasn't it wasn't you know, gambling money.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: If you will, I would invest it safely in international
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: value stocks. They've done very well this year, they did
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: well last year, and if the market goes up, they
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: will go up too. They won't go up quite as much,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: but they will go up to you know, if there's
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: a big correction, if there's a big downturn in AI
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: and in technology around AI, then I would get into
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: AI at low evaluations. I just worry about getting in
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: at these valuations. I know SpaceX is going public on Friday.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later this week. The value, Lacy
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: is very, very very rich to me. I'm not buying
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: SpaceX at one point seven trillion dollars. You know, it
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: could go up a lot from there. But is it
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: ultimately worth one point seven trillion dollars? I don't know.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just skeptical. I don't see it.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: Andrew, as have you seen the Lego scandal going on
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: into Yeah, I mean, I mean it's hard to call
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: it a scandal. It's a small case of what might
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: be fraud, but not clear. It's being investigated. We'll see. Okay,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: So this is what happened, as far as I can tell.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: A family at a collection of I guess rare lego
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: lego sets. They gave it to a store that specializes
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: in selling these kinds of things, and they gave it
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: to them on consignment. That store, or that they gave
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: it to, was owned by was being run by a
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: certain individual. The the franchise owner it was a franchise
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: took over the store because they believed it was being
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: badly run by the previous owner. In taking over the store,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: they claimed that the lego sets were not there anymore
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: and they had no record of them being sold. They
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: also claimed that they were worth a lot less than
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: what this family claimed they were worth. And this is
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: in the court right now. The family is suing the
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: business over this, and you know that I think the
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: business is suing the previous owner, and everybody's suing everybody
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: else into this. Into the middle of this, a YouTuber
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: influencer stepped in in his own investigative reporting whatever the
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: hell that means, and when it did a bunch of
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: inn views and came to conclusion that the big company
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: that franchises itself is responsible.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: Here and they're committing fraud and.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. My response is, I don't know, it
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: seems like a hugely overblown, not particularly important story that
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: the courts will resolve.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's in the courts.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: Lawsuits have been filed. This is what the courts are full,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: this is what the courts are good at. Evidence will
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: be presented, it will be hatched out in court, and
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: restitution will be provided to whoever their victim is and
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: the guilty will have to pay up. So you know,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: it's not a story that I mean, it's funny because
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: this investigative reporting thing is blown up on YouTube. Everybody's watching,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: everybody has an opinion about it. It's the big debate
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: discussion in the world. And it's like it doesn't make
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: your own book news show because it's not news. There's
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: a case of fought happens all the time, sadly, but
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: it's not even clear that it's fought. It's not clear
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: who's it fault, it's not clear what exactly happened. And
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: this investigative reporter, okay, so he's doing investigative reporting about
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: a minor occurrence of.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: Thought, you know, so what it just doesn't seem like
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: it has any.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Importance to our lives, to what's going on in the world.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if this investigative reporter has any credibility,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: any credibility. So the news is that it's gotting this
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: massive following and massive response. That's the news. But that's
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: just the sign of a weird, almost sick culture that
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: is obsessed with influencers who make a lot of noise
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: and get themselves into confrontation is with.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: Who knows who the bad guys are really here?
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: And who to believe? That's what the quotes are for, Thomas.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: I understand that you decry the scarcity idea in economics.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: I assume you think that economics should be the study
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: of production and trade. Yes, why do you think people
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: like Soul, who are who is a good guy? Do that? Well?
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: Partially because this is how it's done in economics, and
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: this is how it's always been done in a sense. Look,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: there's a there's a properly understood you could argue the
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: scarcity point, right, I mean, there's never Okay, So here's
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: the here's the point. Sadly, even the good guys approach
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: the world from a Garden of Eden perspective. There is
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: some presumption of an ideal in which all are once
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: are just provided for But sadly we live in a
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: world of scarcity. We live in a world in which
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: that is not the case, in which our once and
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: desires far exceed what is just available to us and
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: suddenly far exceed the amount of resources we have in
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: order to purchase them. And that is a source of
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: real frustration, which is what motivates our supposedly to go
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: out and produce and create and build so that we
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: get the resources to get the things we desire. But
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: that is just a wrong perspective. Look, thomasol is religious,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: he's bought into altruistic philosophy, and I think this comes
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: from that source. No, we face the world naked, we
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: face the world with nothing. We have very minimal desires
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: at that state, the desire to eat and for shelter
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: and the immediate. And it's not that those things are scarce.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: They don't exist, so we need to produce and trade
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: in order to get them. And that's the beginning. It's
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: the fact that we're born naked, without the knowledge and
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: without the stuff necessary to feed ourselves and shelter ourselves
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: and provide for ourselves. That is the beginning fact. And
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: what economics is the study of Okay, what do we
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: do then, in the face of no garden of Eden,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: in the face of stuff is not going to fall
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: from heaven like manna from heaven, I have nothing. Okay,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: use your mind, go produce, go create. That's what economic studies.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: So I think it comes from a religious perspective on
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: the world and on man. All right, Michael, can you
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: explain why countries like Fans are subsidized by the US? Sure, well,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: a Fans spends relatively little on national defense because it
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: can rely on the United States massive contribution to NATO,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: and rely on the United States to protect Frans if
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: it ever gets involved in a war. That was the
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: whole post World War two assumption. You know, Frans was
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: bailed out from World War One by the United States,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: it was bailed out from World War Two by the
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: United States, and I think it assumes it will be
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: bailed out from World War three by the United States.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: Therefore it can and less on the fence and more
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: and let's say warfare, right, what else Fans doesn't have
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: to worry about where the next great technological innovation.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: Is going to come from. It'll happened in America.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: We can stay at the French say, we can stay socialists,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: we can take long vacations in August. We can discourage entrepreneurship.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: We can build a bureaucracy and have a robust warfare state.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: And when we need, I don't know, the next great
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: tech innovation, we'll just buy it from the United States.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: And it's pretty cheap, right, most of the stuff, most software,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: most computers, most electronics, pretty cheap. And the thing goes
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: to healthcare. We can run a socialized, scalthier system. We
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: can not innovate, we cannot invest in drug product, new drugs,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: we can not invest in new medical procedures, not innovate.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: In the United States, and we'll fight free right off
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: of it. We'll pay very little for it.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: We'll have our government negotiate with the farmer companies to
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: get a really, really cheap rate and let the Americans
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: pay for it. And that's actually what happens. So Europe
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: free rides off of the freedom of Americans in that
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: they you know, they pay for these products, but they
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: pay way below what it would take them to develop them,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: and they run welfare systems because they rely on growth
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: that will come from America. They'll drive their economies That's
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: what I mean by the US is subsidizing them, and
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: then defense is in a sense of direct subsidy. Michael,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: have you seen the riots in the UK from the
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: Islamic immigrant attempting to be had someone? Yeah, I'm seeing
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: some photos and videos of riots in the UK. You know,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: again in Islamic. I don't know the details of who
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: this guy was. Is he crazy? Was you know? I
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: assume he was doing this for God or whatever. So
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: it's not exactly what he you know, why he was
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: doing this and what. And I've just seen pictures of
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: the riots. I don't have any commentary on today. I'll
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: look more into it maybe for tomorrow. Richard.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: As much as I despise JD.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: Vance, I support Donald Trump's impeachment, which I expect to
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: start next year. Then we need to fight Vance's stealth
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: Christian nationalism.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: Support it too, but it won't have happen, So don't worry.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: Even if he's impeached in the House, which I expect
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: he will be, if the Democrats take it, the center
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: will never vote him out. They need two thirds I
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: think sixty six, and they will never get enough Republicans
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: to vote on it, so he's not going to be impeached.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: Vance is not going to be president because of that Randall.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: How you on In Australia, supporters of a twenty five
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: percent gas export tax argue it's only fair that Australians
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: get a bigger return from their resources. What's the strongest
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: philosophical argument against the idea that they are entitled to more. Well,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: they're not entitled to anything. Australia doesn't have resources. There
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: is no such thing as national resources. The resources should
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: be owned by the people who own the land on
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: which the resources found. Like in America, you never get
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: that talk because in America, if I find oil on
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: my property, it's my oil. It's not America's oil, it's
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: my oil. So and even when it's government land, basically
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: it's the people who lease the land from the government
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: who then developed the natural gas, or the oil farmer
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: who frackt they're the ones who get the benefit from it.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: So there is no such thing as collective ownership a property,
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: and there is no such thing as the state or
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: the Australian people. What did they do for that oil.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: It's the people who own the land, it's the people
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: who mine it. Or drove for it that own it.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: Now an expot tax is particularly stupid because you're making
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: your oil or your gas in this case, much more
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: expensive in the international markets, so people are not going.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: To buy it.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: Demand for your oil is going to go down. How
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: is that helping anybody? But the philosophical argument is there
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: is no as collective property. There is no such thing
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: as national natural resources. All resources should be owned by
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: individuals or companies. It's private property. There should be no
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: state property. Thank you Randa for the additional fifty Australian dollars.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: Really appreciate it. Okay, Hawpot Campbell. Since juice only point
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: two percent of the world of Jews. Since Jews are
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: only point two percent of the world population, most people
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: will never meet a Jewish person in their life.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: This makes them easy to scapegoat and demonize.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe, but looking most Americans, almost all Americans are met
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: at Jeur in their lifetime. Certainly in Europe people have
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: met Jews, whether they know it or not. Jews prominent
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: in you know, different professions, and anybody in a profession
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: who will have met them. Certainly, if you're in China,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: maybe you've never met a Jew. If you're in India,
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: maybe you've never met a Jew. Though a lot of
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: Israeli's vacation in India. A lot of young Israelis go uh,
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: you know, uh backpacking in India. It's true that in
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: Africa and in Asia, but in Europe and the United States,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: most people have met Jews. So there's no way it's
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: easy to escape going and demonize them. There has to
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: be some deeper reason for it, all right. I realized
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't thanked the stick of people. So
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: let's think the stick of people. Maybe we'll get some
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: more stick of people. Andrew, thank you for the sticker,
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: and let's see stuff from the beginning we had Joseph,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: thank you for the sticker, and Greg thank you, and Steven.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: Thank you, and Greg and Gail and.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: John and to the Andrew, I think I got everybody.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: I think I got everybody. So thank you guys for
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: the for the stickers. Yep, I think that's everybody.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: All right, have a son.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: I hate to be a big nag, but obviously not
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: enough to stop being. One song review this weekend, Yes, well,
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  Speaker 1: reviews this weekend.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: We'll see what I review.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: There has to be a certain order to them, but
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: I'll try to get to the song as well this weekend.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: This weekend and next weekend, I'll try to get to
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: the reviews. Mike just getting here. I'll listen later. Thanks Mike,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: thanks for the support. An entire company, Blocks and min
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: Things is about to be destroyed for trying to steal
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: thirty five percent of two hundred thousand dollars. One of
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: the best examples of short sighted and stupid selfishness I've
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: seen in a while. I'm not sure. Yeah, I wouldn't
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: even use the selfishness term there, but you know, it's
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: the company's being destroyed by this. You know again, this
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: let the lawsuit play out by this so called investigative
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: reporter and the hype he's created around it. It's it's
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: a sick culture that is obsessed about these things Urban pocupone.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: But you're on and that's impossible. I've been informed by
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: people who never use AI that it isn't good for anything. Yeah,
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: and they would know. They're very good at knowing what's
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: not good for anything. Harrison away for medical AI more
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: life less death is a slogan for the ages. Yes,
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• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: the assignments get them graded. I Lincoln as a three
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  Speaker 1: part question. Hi you on, just finished my second year
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: of college credit wise and was wondering how to weigh
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: the options between a state school for myjd or aiming
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: for a prestigious private law school that's a lot more
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: pricey but has better opportunities for prestigious positions to pay better.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: Not aiming for super prestigious films with super long hours,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: but want to save up for a wedding and housing
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: down payment, which going in state might help with.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think you have to look at.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: What is a reasonable expectation for a salary coming out
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: of the state school. What is the reasonable expectation of
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: salary out of the private school, and then you know
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: assess if that difference covers the difference situation. And of
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: course you can't just assess it for the first year.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: You have to assess it over a number of different years.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: So how many years of the highest salary does it
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: take you to pay off let's say the debt from
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: the more expensive school. And it might turn out that
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: the prestigious school the salary is only a little bit
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: higher than the state school, and then the state school
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: makes more sense. Or it could turn out that out
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: of the prestigiouschool, the salaries are much higher, and ifore,
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: it makes sense to go to the prestigious school. So
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: I think you just have to run the numbers and
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: look at don't just look at the first year numbers,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: look over the career, what the averages are.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: You can probably find that data.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: Ask AI. AI will be I think really a good
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: source for information like that, Okay, A four four pot
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: question from Lincoln. I was rewatching old clips of MTV
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties and noticed how there was
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: more diversity in what was popular and more overlap in
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: the artists both men and women. Listening to competitor today,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: when it's just pop music for women and rap music
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: for men. I theorize a more nihilistic culture post nine
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: to eleven, harming creativity, Internet usage making teenagers less likely
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: to film, bands and longevity of musicians touring into their
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: seventies are the cause is behind it. But I want
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts giving you both remember music culture
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: from men and outside of music age demographics. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: I really don't know, because I don't know the music
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: culture from today. I don't know how deep this divide
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: between men and women are. And you know, the kind
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: of music. I think generally there's been a detrioration and
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: the quality of music across genres. I think it's less musical,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: less sophisticated, less complex, more simple, more instant gratification, and
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: so I think you have to think about it in
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: those terms. I don't know about the gender differences. Music
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: was less sexualized than the eighties than it is now.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: I think that's the influence of rap prime early.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: I don't have a good handle on the music scene today,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: particularly in trying to compare it to the music scene
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: of the eighties. I wasn't beiginto MTV in those days,
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: in the eighties, I was mainly focused on classical music,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: not so much on popular culture. Sali Randall says, hire
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: you on your answer assumes private ownership resources, but in
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: Australia most gas is offshore and already owned by the
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: federal government within the framework. What's the strongest case against
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: claiming Australians deserve a favorite turn?
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: I mean again, what does a favorite turn mean?
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: So? I mean, okay, the government sells the gas, it
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: should sell it at market prices. It shouldn't overlay it
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: some tax that makes it more expensive and therefore doesn't
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: sell it, can't export it. I mean Argentina tried to
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: expot taxes and it made Argentina poor. So expot taxes
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: don't bring revenue, they suppress exports. So what you want
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: is the government to pump as much ail thet gas
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: as they can, and they should use the revenue to
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: reduce everybody's taxes. They should use the revenue to fund
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: the government instead of taxing you. That's the best use
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: of that. And there is no such fair thing as
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: a fair return. You know that. Okay, the government is
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: doing it fine, Then what should we do with the
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: money coming in from all the exports. We should reduce governments,
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: you know, we should reduce the taxes people have to
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  Speaker 1: pay in because the government can fund itself from exporting
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  Speaker 1: this gas. I don't understand the logic of an expert tax.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's backward to me. What you tax, you
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: get less off. So if you can attax exports, you
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: get less exports. But the od point is to get
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: more exports, not less, to get more revenue from exports.
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  Speaker 2: To tax who you taxing? Exactly? You're taxing the old companies, but.
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  Speaker 1: They're the ones that are actually pumping the stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Out of there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean maybe the government quote owns it, but who's
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  Speaker 1: being taxed The foreigner who's buying it. But if if
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  Speaker 1: they are going to be taxed, then they're not going
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: to buy your stuff, they'd rather buy it from somebody
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  Speaker 1: who doesn't tax them. So who gets taxed exactly? It
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  Speaker 1: just seems like, from an economic perspective, just a completely
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  Speaker 1: nonsensical proposal. And fantas has nothing to do with here,
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  Speaker 1: because there is no such thing as a fair return.
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  Speaker 2: Fait to whom by what standard? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Neo is China producing educated citizens, proof that the state
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  Speaker 1: can do a good job. Or are they bankrupting themselves
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  Speaker 1: as a consequence. Well, I don't think that bankrupting themselves
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: by educating the people. But I'm not sure their educational
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: system is very good. I think it produces people who
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: can do stuff by rot. Is it producing innovation? Is
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: it producing thinkers? It's still true that the Chinese still
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: send a lot of their students to the United States
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: to do undergrad and graduate degrees.
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  Speaker 2: Is that because we're better at it? So I don't
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: have a clear view that the.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: Chinese educational system run by the government is very good.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: They have numbers, but I'm not sure it's very good.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: Randall says that there would be taxing shell, Woodside and Chevron.
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  Speaker 1: How can that be fair to tax them? Right? How
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: can it be fair to tax them when they're the
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: ones doing the work. The government does nothing, you the
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: citizen does nothing. So it says the argument is that
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: the gas industry only pays one billion in taxes and
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: that they want a fair retune with a twenty five
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  Speaker 1: expo tax.
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  Speaker 2: But how is that fair?
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  Speaker 1: Why does the gas industry pay a billion dollars in taxes?
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: It shouldn't you know, it's it's producing gas, it's getting
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: it out of the ground in harsh conditions in the ocean.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: The government doesn't have the resource, it doesn't have the
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: ability to do that, so the gas company. The fair
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: thing is that the gas company to be rewarded for
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: pumping out the gas by being able to profit for
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: the gas. Why would a tax on them, Why would
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: any tax? Why would an extra twenty five dollars percent
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: tax be fair? Again, by what standard would it be fair?
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: By the standard of what? To me? Taxation is never fair,
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  Speaker 1: And it's certainly not fair to tax somebody because they're producing,
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  Speaker 1: because they're making, because they're making the improving the world,
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: you're going to tax them. So no, I think I
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  Speaker 1: think these companies should be rewarded for drilling the gas.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe the taxes should be cut, Maybe they should be
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: giving less than a billion dollars of taxes.
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  Speaker 1: That would be fair. So to me, fainness is allowing
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: the producers to benefit from their production. And in this case,
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: the producer is not the government. The producer is not
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: your neighbor, The producer is not the Australian citizen. The
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: producer is shell and Woodside and Chevron. Those are the producers.
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  Speaker 1: They should keep as much as they can. Thanks Rana
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: Randall bailed us out today did a four fifty Australian
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: fifty Australian dollar questions that is amazing. That really helped out.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. All right, let's see thank you.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: So far the Yan has not responded to the American bombings.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. Thank you guys for all the
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: super chatters. I will see you all tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: We'll probably go back to our regular schedule.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: Three pm East Coast time tomorrow, so no more six pm,
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: so either three or four pm the rest of the week.
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  Speaker 2: See you then have a great rest of your week. Bye,
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 2: everybody to have a good night.