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106: Sister Wives - Always Darkest Before Dawn SEASON FINALE (S18E14) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Welcome to reality TV Cringe. I am one of your hosts, Delia here
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  with my oral tot homegirl, Pacha. Hey, that's me, y'all.
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  How are you doing. I'm good. It's almost Thanksgiving? Girl. We
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  are going to eat girl. We were just talking about what we're gonna make
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  for Thanksgiving, yes, and the day before Thanksgiving, and then the day
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  is going to be so much fun. With regard to our Thanksgiving schedule this
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  because, as I predicted, this was the season finale episode, and then
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  All right, girl, let's get into this horseshit before we do.
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  Like I always ask, what is one of your major takeaways from this episode?
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  Robin, I'm tired of her crying. Like I know, I've been
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  saying this this whole entire time, but this episode really highlighted it for me
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  because she's sitting there sobbing. She's putting this whole performance up and there's no
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  tears. They're stuck in her eyeballs because she's not actually sad, she's just
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  tearing up because she's a really good actress. She thinks she is. I'm
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  just over well. I'm gonna have to offer a Ruth Bader Ginsburg dissenting opinion
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  to the art because I actually felt like this was the first time I felt
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  her emotions. Now, of course, I question the motive behind the emotions.
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  Is she crying because the family is falling apart? Or is she crying
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  because her streams of income are falling apart? But I think I felt real
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  emotion. I actually I actually had a little misty eye really for fear Ball,
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  for Robin and Mary. Robin, yes, I did well. I
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  was sad for Mary for sure, But for Robin, I'm just like,
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  get out of here, bit, We're over it with time. What my
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  major takeaway is that Cody's a straight up thief and he swindled these women out
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  of their money and out of their property. And the fact that he thinks
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  he gets to make the final determining call on how much acreage Mary gets to
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  have based on how much children she has like he has the patriarchal final vote,
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  is a bunch of fucking bullshit. Totally bullshit. I thought that was
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  so fucking insulting. And then to know that he's taking a couple of the
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  rest of the two plots and like, Okay, that's just gonna go to
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  Robin and her kids. It's like, that's the you think we don't know
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  that, that's the facade. You're saying, it's because I have eighteen kids,
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  most of which you are estranged from. Yeah, you don't even talk
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  to them and are making no effort to have relationships with. But you're saying,
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  I want to keep that pond property for my eighteen kids. No you
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  don't, you don't. That's all just going to go to you and Robin
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  And just like the lying and the gas lighting right in front of our face.
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  Yeah, these people are crooks, total crooks and narks, which we
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  knew. But to hear him tell Mary, yeah, that's not my plan,
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  and she's like, I understand. I don't know how she kept her
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  cool with that. I would have been like. And the other thing was
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  we saw a preview with Mary earlier in the season where she's in this scene
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  on Coyote Pass and she's saying, I know you once loved me, and
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  we didn't get to see that. What happened to that? Why do I
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  cut that out? Because again, she had like fire in her belly when
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  she was saying that to Cody. She did, And I don't understand why
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  they showed that in the previews. And then we get to this whole scene
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  and it's basically the entire episode and we don't get to see that at all.
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  Yeah, I don't understand. I think production fumbled, like the potential
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  of this season totally. They could have done it in such a better way.
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  And again we see that we're gonna get a tell all where everybody's separate,
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  they're not in the same room, they're not able to challenge assertions made
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  by another person because they're not gonna hear about it until hours later, and
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  then it's gonna be edited. It's like such horseshit, and I'm sick of
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  it. I'm actually hot over this. Yeah, and I feel like I
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  need a break. Yeah, I need a break from Cody. I need
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  a break from this family. I need a break from the financial ruin of
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  all these wives. And I was thinking to myself, Christine, you didn't
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  have to give your property back to that. I know your name was already
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  on that and his name was not on your property. You could have kept
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  it. You could have kept the equity from your home, and you could
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  have kept that property, which maybe you'll be able to sell for two or
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  three hundred at them. I don't know why she would have given it back.
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  Maybe because he was gonna throw a bitch fit. Well what's he gonna
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  do? I mean, what is he gonna do the legal status of the
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  property. But she did because she's too nice. Yeah, and hopefully in
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  the tell all she's got the gloves off and she's going to tell us some
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  truths that we want to hear for sure. Okay, So we start this
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  episode, which is Sister Wives season eighteen, episode fourteen, final episode of
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  the season, entitled Always Darkest Before Dawn. We starred in Perilwan, Utah,
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  which of course is the location of Mary's b and b. And we
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  start right off with Mary narrating what happened during the anniversary that they first arrived
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  in Flagstaff. Apparently Cody picked her up, they went for a drive,
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  and then he took her out for dinner, and during that dinner he actually
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  made certain assurances to her that they were going to enter into a new beginning,
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  that he was going to try and so she had hope that they could
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  reconcile their marriage, and I guess he even cheers to new beginnings with her,
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  which surprised me. Yeah, do we believe her that it was him
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  saying saying like, cheers to new beginnings like in our relationship, or cheers
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  to new beginnings because I don't want to be married to you. No,
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  I think for sure it's cheers to new I think he was stringing her along,
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  wow, and giving her false hope because she said also in this episode
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  that she continued to contribute financially, so absolutely, and he also talks about
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  acting and faking it. It's true, Yeah, and I think he was
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  faking it, so fucking messed up for him to do that, and then
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  to say in your talking heads like I don't know why Mary's even here.
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  I don't even know why. She stays she should be better off just going
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  and finding somebody else, Like okay, then why don't you tell her that?
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  Because you need the money. Because you need the money. And it's
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  curious that this conversation at Coyote Pass ultimately happens in October or November of twenty
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  twenty two, when we know that they filmed the tell all for last season
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  in October of twenty twenty two, and she's probably also been watching the episodes
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  as they've been released, and last year was such a toxic season, oh
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  terrible. And she's also getting mad backlash for the way that she sat there
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  when Christine announced that she's leaving. So she's getting a lot of blowback,
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  yeah at this point specifically, but she's seen the things that Cody said,
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  And in specific, she said that Cody made the comment that he doesn't consider
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  himself to be married to Mary anymore and she can go off and meet somebody
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  else and live her life and that's perfectly fine with him, to which she
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  says, that is insulting and vulgar, because up until this point, she's
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  in a holy matrimony with this man in her heart right, and she's believing
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  him when he says, cheers to new beginnings, and I want to make
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  things work and let's keep doing this. So for her to hear that on
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  national TV when he's not telling her that, God, I can't even imagine
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  embarrassing. That's why I never liked any of the hate that she was getting
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  either. Like I know, we've been critical of Mary on this podcast because
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  we've wanted her to worthy up hashtag worthy up and just leave him, because
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  we know she she deserves to be happy, But that doesn't mean that Mary
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  deserves any of the hate or the vitriol that she's been getting online for staying
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  in this narcissistic, abusive relationship. Yes, and also like spiritually abusive as
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  well, Like you have to be here, you have to continue to contribute
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  to the finances of the family because that's your spiritual duty, which she takes
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  very seriously. And even Janelle says, like Mary's very loyal despite the catfish
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  thing. Mary is very very loyal, and she takes pains. In this
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  episode, Mary does to say that we have been on the rocks. This
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  marriage has been struggling since well before the catfish, Yes, and she felt
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  emotionally abandoned well before the catfish Like okay, well, that just proves all
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  of our theories, and like, you've been neglected this whole entire time,
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  and that's why you reached out to some online rando just to get some kind
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  of affection and love because you weren't getting that from Cody for many, many,
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  many years, which is probably not the way to do it if you
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  want to be an entire but it's also perfectly understandable because your husband is boning
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  three other women. I mean, it's just so confusing to be in a
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  plural marriage and not be able to do the same thing that your husband is
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  doing while he's treating you with such spite and just leading you on and dragging
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  you along. Well. She contrasts that anniversary when they first arrived to Flagstaff
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  with the last anniversary, which at the time of this recording would have been
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  six months previous, in April of twenty twenty two, in which Cody told
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  her in no uncertain terms that it just ain't happened in we are never ever
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  getting back together, Mary, and you have got to move on. And
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  she has been saying, like, I have to decide what do I want
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  to do, because it sounds like Cody has been offering her friendship like a
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  redefined relationship with no bump and uglies, no sexy time, no romance at
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  all. But we can be friends and we can still build on that,
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  we can be bros. It's cool, and so she's been thinking about it,
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  I guess all these months, but it's not until she actually sees what
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  he said on television. Yeah, that she's like Oh, this guy has
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  broken our covenant. And it's not about friendship for him, because if it
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  was, he could just sit there and be like, well, I'm not
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  interested in having an intimate marriage with Mary, like he said to Christine,
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  but I'm still married to her. I still have this covenant. He's not
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  even saying that on TV. He hasn't been saying that for years, which
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  is just crazy to me. Yeah. Ugh, it's really sad, but
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  thank god Mary is finally coming to her senses. Yes, and I do
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  believe he was feeding her a line. I believe Christine when she's like,
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  I'm disgusted with Cody because he's been dragging her along, and I'm disgusted with
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  Robin because she's been sitting there begging please don't believe me. We're in this
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  together. All of it is disgusting, and I thoroughly agree. Oh yeah,
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  the Robin part is what pisses me off even more, honestly, because
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  she's supposed to be Mary's friend and she has maintained this position that I'm Mary's
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  closest friend. Came into this family and like Mary's the only one that accepted
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  me, and blah blah blah, and I love her so much and I
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  love her relationship with my kids, and then you're actively advocating for her to
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  stay in her own misery to satiate your need, which is financial probably,
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  but also your need to live plural marriage. Yeah, the appearance of we're
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  not failing, we still have one wife here, we're still a plural marriage.
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  No you're not. And you're allowing Mary to just sit there in her
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  lonely haunted flag Staff rental and be alone. Right, It's really tragic,
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  disgusting. So it's finally coming to an end. And at the end of
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  this particular segment out in Periwan, Mary is like, yeah, I'm gonna
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  have to have a talk with Robin and Cody because you know, maybe it's
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  time for me to leave flag Staff. And I'm like, y think she
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  has funny. After that, we bop on over to Burley, Idaho.
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  I feel like I was born to be from Burley Early, Idaho. I'm
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  so tubby. Oh my god, Thanksgiving is gonna make it worse. Oh
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  my gosh, I have no chill when it comes to Thanksgiving. I'm just
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  eating all day and drinking. I'm just getting fat or fat. I'm a
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  real raccoon in this dum y'all are making me make tupies yeah, and fudge.
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  Oh my god, I cannot wait. Anyway, we're back in Burley,
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  Idaho, and Christine and Janelle are going on a hike with her two
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  brothers, Levi the younger brother, and Steve, also a younger brother,
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  plus Levi's wife Jace, and her mother Corina. I can't believe I remembered
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  all that. I know. I didn't even remember their names. Which the
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  only reason they're actually interesting is because Carina's gone back to college and they're talking
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  about it during the hike, and then we learn about Janelle and Christine's college
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  journeys, and then that leads us into prepping, yeah, and being a
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  Mormon and the stores. Yes, So what did you think about some of
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  the conversations that came out in that segment. Well, the college stuff was
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  interesting only because Janelle worked full time and then had six thousand children and then
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  went to college and got her degree at thirty three. I'm like, Wow,
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  this woman's a amazing Yes, that's a lot of fucking work, yep,
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  A lot of hard work, especially with a husband that's only there once
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  every three days. So it's just you by yourself, and thank god Christine
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  was helping your taking care of all of your kids, but still like,
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  yes, doing all of that and working full time, that's a lot,
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  dude. It is. We have to give Janail her flowers. She accomplished
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  that on her own and that is awesome. Christine also talks about how it
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  wasn't the culture in their church to go to college if you were a girl
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  like Sad. The expectation is, no, just find a man because the
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  world is going to end populate and you need to be connected to a man,
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  which that actually reminds me of my upbringing as an evangelical kind of fundamentalist,
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  because it was always about the rapture. It was always about the tribulation
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  and the upcoming, like the number of the beasts and the ship in your
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  hand, And so I always had the consciousness that it didn't really matter what
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  I did or accomplished or achieved in my life because it was all going to
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  end anyway. And that is so fatalistic, totally and nihilistic. Can you
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  think about all of the people on the planet who think that way? Right
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  now? I know, like, why do we have to care about climate
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  change? Because Jesus is coming back, right. Why do we have to
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  care about people starving in another country because Jesus is coming back, right.
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  So that's how they believed, yeah, or like why bother doing anything because
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  the world's gonna end these kinds of things. But my not even Poppy were
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  like that too. Yeah. Yeah, they believed in Y two K.
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  And like I had all these preppers and all the storage stuff, and my
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  Poppy was making his own AMMO like, so I kind of liked the whole
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  prepper conversation. I'm not gonna lie them talking about their food storage. I'm
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  like, that's dope, and that's hashtag goals. Yeah I know, I
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  know, Yeah I thought so too. I My husband and his father were
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  like super worried about Y two K when it was happening, and they were
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  completely and totally prepping, and they were a little bit low key disappointed when
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  nothing happened in the world didn't end. But I remember when I first met
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  my husband, he would take me to the Mormon store house in Denver,
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  Colorado. Cool. So you can it's sometimes open to the public and you
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  can go in and get bulk flour, bulk sugar, bulk everything, you
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  would love. It would so crunchy, you would love, and the prices
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  were really great, I bet. And then my husband would just go home
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  and he would prep it whatever you do, put it in buckets or put
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  it in whatever. He did it. And he still has a lot of
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  those stores. Yeah, I mean it's useful, like hearing Cody and Robert,
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  Cody and Mary talk about like how they just don't even really care about
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  the food storage stuff, and how Christine had all of the food storage for
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  the whole family and she just left it with the family. Why wouldn't you
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  take that? Well, she he did take it, and he actually makes
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  a point to say that now I have to store it, and I have
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  to pay money every month every month to keep these stores, and I don't
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  have the space for it. It's like always just throwing Christine under the bus,
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  like that's a huge reward to get somebody's two year stash. Well,
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  that's what I'm saying, Like, why didn't Christine. I would have taken
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  I thought it was probably symbolic of the relationship, and it was symbolic of
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  the religion. And it feels to me like she's walked away from both.
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  I'm definitely the relationship, but maybe her faith as well. That's fair,
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  but I mean it's still food storage. Yeah, my neighbor's right here.
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  They're Mormons. I'm like, do you have two years in there? Like
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  if there's a zombie apocalypse and the street we are not we need to have
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  our own stores. But I mean if we need it, we no way,
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  No, I don't even say that. That's terrible. Oh was there
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  anything else that was interesting in this particular? Oh, they talked about a
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  reunion, didn't they remember. They stopped and there was like a big,
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  beautiful Idaho mountain in the distance, and Christine said, we should have a
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  reunion here. Oh yeah, with all the kids, And that was the
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  segue for Janelle to tell us that, you know, she doesn't know why
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  there's such a huge divide between all of the kids and Robin's kids, because
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  her children and especially her boys off the say how much they miss Robin's kid,
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  and in specific Dayton, Dayton. I thought that was really sweet,
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  and so it's just like a testament to Robin, like, hello, bitch,
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  our kids like actually liked your kids, and they actually wanted to have
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  relationships with everybody. It's been you that's been the problem. You're poisoning everybody.
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  I mean, look at how she's poisoning her girls to act exactly like
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  her damsels in distress. They even look like her and cry like her.
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  It's ridiculous, and it's Robin's the fucking problem. Yes, she is the
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  problem. And it's got to be sad to live that way in your head
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  when you think you're a victim all the time, right, or everybody's out
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  to get you, or the family doesn't want us, and to actually have
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  that mindset has to be terrible. So Robin, that's on you. The
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  girls don't need to feel that way, because the kids actually want them.
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  They don't want your ass, No lo ass, broke ass, They want
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  your kids. Yes, so, but we'll see if anything ever heals in
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  the future. I'm thinking probably not. In the next scene, we go
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  to Coyote Pass and this is where the meat is, honey, Yeah,
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  this is where the tea is. Yep. We have Cody arriving on his
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  tricked out ATV with his gloves. He's such a dweep. I can't stand
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  him. He's such a small you're not cool, old man. Then we
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  have Robin arriving in her separate vehicle when we all know they left together from
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  the same house. Why didn't you just drive together? Why did they do
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  that because they want to appear as if they're not always together, because it's
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  a plural merit. Well, we can see right through it. We totally
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  can. And then Mary arrives and they sit down to have a conversation,
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  which begins about the property, and Cody's like, well, Mary, we're
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  here. Do you want to go walk the property? Yeah? And She's
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  just like, well, not really, I mean I kind of want to
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  talk to you about it. You're kind of skipping to the middle, Like
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  there's a few conversations we need to have before that. There's a lot of
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  shit that we have to talk about. And I can't remember how it got
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  into it because there was so much that was said in this whole conversation,
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  and I felt like they just kind of skirted around a lot of it,
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  especially Cody and Robin. But did they go into the acreage at first?
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  Yeah, they kind of went right and right into it the acreage before they
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  talked about the status of the relationship, right, and there was like a
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  lot of different, you know, pieces of conversation. I wrote a lot
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  of it down, but in essence, Mary inquires about the status of the
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  property because upon Christine's removal from the family, like, there's two more acres
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  and Janelle gets four, Robin gets four, Mary only has two. So
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  does that mean she's going to get Christine's two so that she can also have
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  four like the other wives And Coote is like, yeah, that's not my
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  plan, it's going to be my plot actually, So Janelle gets four acres,
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  Robin gets four acres, Mary's left with two, Cody gets four,
• 21:45
  so essentially Robin also gets that four. So it's like she gets the majority
• 21:48
  of the property. And I was seeing people on Reddit talk about this like
• 21:52
  that was intentional because Robin wants this property as her estate. So Janelle sitting
• 21:57
  here talking about how she has literally nothing to her name, doesn't have anything
• 22:02
  to leave to her children, and Robin gets the majority of Coyote Pass seems
• 22:07
  very convenient. And she didn't have to contribute anything to it. Where was
• 22:12
  her money in any of this? Nowhere? Nowhere, it's all the otherwise,
• 22:17
  Well, it's her contribution through her appearance on TLC, so that she
• 22:21
  did have a portion of that which you could say was a contributing factor to
• 22:25
  the purchase of that land, but certainly not so that she gets eight acres
• 22:29
  and Mary gets two. That's bullshit. And so when Cody's like, yeah,
• 22:33
  that's not the plan, I decided that's not the plan. We then
• 22:37
  see Mary in a talking head say I understand exactly what he's saying because I've
• 22:41
  always been less than and it's because I've only had one child, and also
• 22:45
  now my marriage is shitty, so I don't get anything, and I don't
• 22:49
  I also don't have a say in what I get, right, which seems
• 22:52
  to be unfair because I've been here contributing financially this entire time. So what
• 22:57
  gives you the authority, especially since you're no longer my husband as far as
• 23:02
  you're concern, What gives you the authority to tell me how much I get?
• 23:06
  And then we skip to Janelle, who's like, absolutely, I've been
• 23:08
  talking to Cody about this, and in my opinion, this property should be
• 23:12
  distributed equally among the remaining wives. Because Cody's name is on all of them.
• 23:18
  He's acting like he gets his own separate property. Well, your name
• 23:19
  is on all of the properties. And here we get into the conversation about
• 23:25
  intermingling of the names on the property because Mary doesn't own that shit, free
• 23:29
  and clear, Janelle owns her property with Cody and Robin. Very interesting,
• 23:34
  and then Christine kind of talks about how Cody used to have his name on
• 23:40
  her house and then he wanted to refinance and he took his name off of
• 23:44
  it, and she was devastated by this because it was like the first time
• 23:47
  that they got to own something together as a married couple, and that's a
• 23:51
  big deal. But it ended up working out okay for Christine financially because she
• 23:55
  got to just leave, which is great. But I also felt really fucking
• 23:59
  bad Janelle. I feel really bad for Mary because they're all intermingled in everything.
• 24:03
  Lord knows how many bankruptcies they have on their fucking credit and everything that
• 24:07
  they've had to do for all of this shit. And like, I wonder
• 24:11
  how Robin's finances look because she's intermingled on some of these properties. Yes,
• 24:15
  but she's legally married to Cody, so I just I don't know. It
• 24:19
  seems like everybody fucking benefits financially except for Janelle and Mary, right, And
• 24:27
  Mary even says, oh no, no, no, it's cod Cody has
• 24:32
  a talking head where he says, well, that's all of us. All
• 24:36
  of us have assets that are intermingled. That's what plural marriage is. I'm
• 24:40
  like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You
• 24:41
  and Robin are on absolutely everything, so nobody gets to own anything free and
• 24:45
  clear. Right. That's you inserting yourself into their property and assets. Right.
• 24:51
  That's not a burden on you, that's a burden on them, exactly.
• 24:53
  It's just like the same logic he uses to say, oh, well,
• 24:57
  none of us have assets, you know, Janelle. I mean,
• 25:00
  my concern is that all my wives have assets, so Janelle needs to stop
• 25:03
  worrying about it. It's like the same fucking logic every time. He just
• 25:07
  deflects and avoids taking responsibility for how he's financially abused and neglected all of these
• 25:14
  women. You know. But to tell you the truth, Christine should not
• 25:18
  have just deed it over her property to Cody and Robin. Again, she
• 25:21
  was in the absolute power position because he had removed himself from the deed on
• 25:26
  her house and she was on the property that she surrendered to them. She
• 25:32
  could have surrendered that to Mary, She could have surrendered that to Chanell.
• 25:36
  I wonder why she didn't. Well, maybe she couldn't have because Cody's name
• 25:38
  was on it too. Maybe she's like, fuck all of this noise.
• 25:41
  I just want to get out of it and just want to be out.
• 25:44
  I mean, I can't blame her for that, though, I mean,
• 25:45
  stuck in a thirty year marriage with this narcissist and all of this bullshit,
• 25:51
  fucking around with your finances and everything. I'm like, yeah, I mean,
• 25:53
  I don't blame you for just being like, here's the property for ten
• 25:56
  dollars, let me get the bug out of here. But why does he
• 25:59
  get to dictate who it's the property where it goes because he's the patriarch.
• 26:02
  N I'm telling you, Mary, get an attorney, Janelle, get an
• 26:06
  attorney. Just find out what kind of an action you can bring against these
• 26:11
  grifters. That would be so fucking amazing if Janelle and Mary and Christine all
• 26:15
  just sued Cody and Robin, they'd be so what because they'd have to open
• 26:19
  the books and we'd have to see how the money came in and how the
• 26:22
  money was distributed. I mean, you see Cody and Robin sitting at this
• 26:26
  table, and she's got her stallion ring. I think she's wearing a Rolex,
• 26:30
  she's got her nice clothes on. He comes up in his tricked out
• 26:33
  ATV. They have all of the money, yep, they have all of
• 26:37
  the money, yep. All the reasons. It drives me crazy. It's
• 26:41
  absolutely Why isn't Mary kicking and screaming right now? What have you got to
• 26:44
  lose? Why are you still deferring to Cody? Because she's so fucking loyal.
• 26:48
  It's like she it's second nature to her. She's just dealt with this
• 26:52
  for so long. I think she's just like, well, I don't want
• 26:53
  to rock the boat. It's sad, but I'm just like, why don't
• 26:57
  you just fucking get the fire in you and tell him fuck off? You're
• 27:00
  not legally married to him anymore? Why do you even care? I would
• 27:06
  have gone there. I would have gone there, not outright threatening legal action,
• 27:10
  but certainly in the energetic disposition of that. Because Cody's like, so
• 27:15
  you don't want to walk on the property. What's different? And this is
• 27:17
  where Mary says, well, what's different is, bitch, you've been talking
• 27:21
  about me and the things that you've actually said to me. Yeah, and
• 27:25
  that's changed things for me, and then Cody gets all defensive, So oh,
• 27:29
  now we're blaming me, huh, because it's the things that I've said,
• 27:32
  the things that I've did. How come we can't just start in this
• 27:34
  moment of time where we are And I'm like, because you annihilated Mary at
• 27:41
  Christine and now you're annihilating Janelle on television in front of the world. You've
• 27:45
  said terrible things which Mary considers to be vulgar and insulting, and so we
• 27:48
  don't have to talk, we don't get to talk about that. That doesn't
• 27:52
  get to actually impact how I feel about you and owning property with you.
• 27:55
  And I'm not fucking blaming you for anything. I'm really just saying it's because
• 27:57
  of the shit that you said. Yeah, it's changed the way that I
• 28:00
  feel about this whole property, in this whole family unit. Duh. Yes,
• 28:04
  what do you expect me to feel when you tell everybody on national television
• 28:08
  that you don't feel like you're married to me anymore? But then you're telling
• 28:11
  me on our anniversary dinners, cheers to new beginnings, and let's reconcile,
• 28:18
  let's try to make this work, Like, Yeah, that's a valid fucking
• 28:21
  point. But Cody's such a narc and it's narcissistic injury. Like we keep
• 28:25
  saying with Kim Plath and all the others, that's just him being defensive.
• 28:29
  Don't blame me. He can't take responsibility for anything. This is where we
• 28:36
  learn that Mary and Cody apparently met about two days before this conversation out an
• 28:41
  coyote pass where they discussed the status of their relationship. They agreed that they
• 28:47
  were going to divorce, and it sounds like Mary pushed to take this public
• 28:52
  to let people know, and Cody was still asking and or demanding of Mary
• 28:57
  that they not say anything, because again he's worried about the backlash that he's
• 29:03
  going to get from other people, so he's still asking her to do what
• 29:06
  the fuck he wants her to do. And we see in the preview for
• 29:08
  next week that Mary is saying, he asked me to change in all of
• 29:11
  these ways, and I did, and it was never good enough for him.
• 29:15
  God, it's just like with Olivia Plath, and he can plait like
• 29:19
  her, forcing Ethan to do what she wants to do, and it's still
• 29:23
  never good enough. It's typical narc behavior. Moving the fucking goalposts all the
• 29:27
  time, and then gaslighting on top of all of that. Unbelievable. So
• 29:33
  what did you think when Robin kept trying to insert herself and tell Mary what
• 29:38
  Cody was thinking about the land being for the kids, and then Cody's like,
• 29:41
  no, that's not exactly what I'm thinking. And she's also telling him
• 29:47
  to shut the fuck up because you're not in the right headspace to tell us
• 29:49
  what you want to do with the lands. Like you can really see here
• 29:53
  the puppet master, right, which is something we've said the entire time,
• 29:56
  Like she's the machiavellian persona behind Cody because Cody's not smart enough to do and
• 30:03
  think these things on his own. She is manipulating him. But you can
• 30:04
  see it with your own two eyes in four K in this scene. Yes,
• 30:10
  that was fucking wild, and it was so inappropriate and so gross because
• 30:14
  like this whole Coyote Past scene obviously was like for Robin, right, Like
• 30:18
  Mary and Cody have already kind of come to an agreement at this point,
• 30:22
  and they're going to Coyote Pass to talk to Robin really about it. That's
• 30:26
  how it felt to me, Like it was a breakup for Robin to be
• 30:30
  a part of but like for her to try to translate for Mary what Mary
• 30:34
  is trying to say to Cody was so gross, and then Mary calls her
• 30:37
  out on it. It's like, let me, let me talk to him,
• 30:41
  like, oh, sorry, I won't get involved. I'm sorry,
• 30:44
  right, I'm just trying to help. I'm the Cody whist. I'm trying
• 30:45
  to speak Cody. You're being manipulative as fuck, and it's really inappropriate for
• 30:51
  a grown woman to be trying to tell Cody what Mary's trying to say to
• 30:53
  Cody. It's so fucking also trying to tell Cody when he can speak,
• 30:57
  yes, because in this moment, I mean dick and I hate him,
• 31:00
  Yes, But in this moment, he is trying to be very clear with
• 31:03
  Mary, Okay, like all right, if you want to do this on
• 31:04
  camera, then if you want to take it public right now, we are
• 31:07
  never not ever getting back together. And that's how I feel. We can't
• 31:11
  have what it is that you want. And Robin is trying to stop him
• 31:15
  from actually saying that. It's so weird to me, like watching this,
• 31:18
  I'm like, why what is your motivation? I mean, I guess it's
• 31:22
  finances, right, But that is that really her only motivation for her trying
• 31:26
  to get Mary to stay appearance as well. That's it, Yeah, because
• 31:30
  I think she knows if Mary leaves, the chances of their relevance in terms
• 31:34
  of the Sister Wives universe on TLC diminishes greatly because the audience. I don't
• 31:40
  know if she has the cognizance to understand this, but the audience is going
• 31:42
  to follow the og Wives. The audience has clocked her from the very beginning,
• 31:48
  and I think she feels kind of the uneven shifting sands of their foundation,
• 31:53
  like with Mary going, what do they really have? Because you haven't
• 31:56
  let us into your house, right, you haven't really let us around your
• 32:00
  kids. We get some weird, morose Maudlin interviews with your kids. Sometimes
• 32:05
  we don't know who these people are. Therefore we don't fucking care. No,
• 32:07
  I don't give a shit about your kids. Sorry, I don't give
• 32:10
  a shit about your relationship because you haven't let us in on it. The
• 32:14
  only time you guys are together is when you're commenting on somebody else's relationship and
• 32:17
  essentially judging it totally and like in your whole house is filled with all the
• 32:22
  bullshit that you have bought over the years with the wives money, not actually
• 32:28
  giving a shit about building on Coyote Pass because you already have your home and
• 32:31
  your four acres and your heated fucking driveway and your McMansion and so it's just
• 32:36
  like, it's just so weird to me to see her get emotional over this
• 32:40
  breakup, as if she actually cares. Like That's why I don't think she's
• 32:44
  genuine with all of this. I just think she's just play acting because she
• 32:49
  wants us to think that she's been this dutiful wife that wanted plural marriage and
• 32:54
  came in cap in hand and cared about everybody. And it wasn't true.
• 33:00
  None of it was true. M M. I mean it's the end of
• 33:04
  a thing, right, Yeah, Like they had a thing. Yeah,
• 33:07
  they had a call to sac, they had kids running around, they had
• 33:09
  their traditions. It is the end of their thing. Now something new is
• 33:14
  going to start. It's going to be different. But there is definitely a
• 33:16
  sadness when something like this ends, and I think she's really feeling it.
• 33:21
  I do think she wanted to keep it together to the best of her ability,
• 33:24
  but at the same time, she had all of these other motives and
• 33:28
  all of these other demands on Cody, which he then had to impose on
• 33:31
  his other wives. Right, so, like all of these things are simultaneously
• 33:35
  true at the same time. I feel like she feels like she's losing her
• 33:37
  family. But we could ask the question was it ever a healthy family?
• 33:44
  Well, and I'm just like, was she fucking up the family? I
• 33:46
  think she was fucking up the family, And like, I just it's hard
• 33:50
  for me to think that that's a genuine emotion she's feeling because she did all
• 33:53
  of the shit, Like she hijacked Cody, She made him come over to
• 33:58
  her house constantly, she made him come home to kiss her while Christine was
• 34:02
  literally in labor with truly at the hospital. Like she's done all of this
• 34:07
  shit, the wedding dress, the honeymoon, the everything, But didn't Cody
• 34:10
  do that? And what if Cody really wanted to do that? Cody wanted
• 34:14
  Cody was the one who made the decision to leave Christine in labor to go
• 34:19
  see Robin and give Robin a kiss. I mean Cody did that too.
• 34:22
  I think they fell in love, yeah, I think they fell deeply and
• 34:25
  wildly in love. Yeah, And that made it feel easier to take advantage
• 34:30
  of the other people who were also in love, right, I mean,
• 34:32
  I just think that it's it's kind of murky. Yeah, I guess it's
• 34:37
  just hard for me, and like if Robin really cared, like, why
• 34:39
  didn't you make more of an effort to like push Cody to be with the
• 34:43
  other wives. Well, she says in this episode that she has been advocating
• 34:46
  for the other wives, that it's a tenant of their faith that the sister
• 34:50
  wives have to advocate for one another. Cody tells us that she's been advocating
• 34:53
  for Mary for seven years, which would put it at the time of the
• 34:57
  Catfish, right, So apparently since the time of the Catfish, it's been
• 35:00
  Robin who has been asking Cody to try and work on the relationship, and
• 35:06
  it's Mary who says, actually, Robin has been advocating a lot longer than
• 35:09
  that, because our marriage has been shitty way before the Catfish, which she
• 35:14
  seems to really want to make a point to say in this episode. Yeah
• 35:16
  she does. I mean she's saying it's like longer than ten years. She
• 35:21
  even referenced like twelve years in like you think that you're going to be good
• 35:24
  and happy and everything's going to be great and it's not so like they've been
• 35:29
  having a hard time for many, many many years and struggling. So I
• 35:34
  mean, I guess two things can be true at once, Like, yeah,
• 35:37
  maybe she was advocating for Mary and trying to get Cody to actually care
• 35:42
  about this relationship that he no longer cared about. And you know, she
• 35:45
  couldn't make Cody actually love and care about Mary. But her motives behind all
• 35:52
  of that, it's the motive that's in question, that's the thing. Did
• 35:54
  she really want Cody to love Mary as much as Cody loved her? No?
• 35:59
  Yeh. Did she really want Cody to keep Mary happy so that the
• 36:01
  family structure could stay intact and or the finances could Yes, because Mary's the
• 36:07
  biggest s breadwinner. Yeah, so there's a lot of incentive there for her
• 36:10
  to keep Mary around. So there's a lot that she's probably feeling like she's
• 36:15
  losing. In this conversation on Coyote Pass, Well, you reap what you
• 36:17
  so, bitch, Yes you do. From there, we go on back
• 36:22
  to Burley, Idaho. We're having the barbecue at Christine's brother's house, which
• 36:29
  only serves to kind of get into why Christine left Cody because her brothers want
• 36:34
  to know. Yeah, and they just get right into it. They're very
• 36:37
  direct. Yeah, like, what the fuck happened in the last couple of
• 36:38
  years with you and Cody, because I guess Cody has known these two boys
• 36:43
  since they were teenagers. Yeah, they were friends. Cody says they were
• 36:46
  friends, and so like what happened? And Christine says, well, he
• 36:50
  told me he didn't love me. He told me we couldn't have an intimate
• 36:52
  relationship. He told me he never loved me. And Steve is like,
• 36:58
  I don't believe that. Yeah, I mean I don't believe that either.
• 37:00
  I think he did love all of these wives. I think absolutely. Once
• 37:04
  Robin came in with her break dancing pussy, he was hypnotized and he would
• 37:07
  realize that she was his soulmate because she's also a narc and they fell madly
• 37:10
  in love. And the end Christine also said, you know, Cody said
• 37:15
  I was a bad sister wife, and Janelle is sitting right there, and
• 37:17
  this is where Janelle chimes in and said, you weren't a bad sister wife
• 37:21
  to me. Yeah, and also that's code for you're a bad sister wife
• 37:25
  to Robin. But Cody thinks you're mean if you don't kiss the ring of
• 37:30
  Robin, and she and Cody thinks I'm mean, and Cody thinks my boys
• 37:35
  are mean because we have an issue with Robin. So that's just a one
• 37:38
  sided way to interpret the situation. I love that Janelle says these things because
• 37:44
  I feel like, out of all the three OG wives, Janelle pegs Cody
• 37:47
  the best, like she knows the parts of him that he doesn't like to
• 37:52
  show, and she can read him and call him out on his bullshit.
• 37:55
  Now whether or not he actually listens to that, it's up for debate.
• 37:59
  But I just love that she calls him out on that. I do too.
• 38:01
  I love it. And in the preview, as you're looking at her,
• 38:05
  she seems kind of pissed. Jane. Yeah, she seems like she's
• 38:08
  showing up ready to talk and like not to entertain any bullshit from these two
• 38:15
  grifters. I hope they don't self censor on the fucking tell me too,
• 38:21
  oh lord. And this is also where we get into Christine talking about it
• 38:25
  being Cody who asked to be removed from her mortgage and her deed, which
• 38:30
  that was news to me. Honestly thought that she happened to finnakele purchasing this
• 38:36
  house without Cody, which was something she maneuvered intentionally to do. But actually
• 38:40
  she was really heartbroken when he asked to be taken off of the deed because
• 38:45
  that was the first thing that they owned together in a relationship, and that
• 38:50
  really was meaningful to her. Why do you think he would have wanted to
• 38:52
  be taken off of that deed because he couldn't afford both, so it was
• 38:57
  one house or the other. He wanted to help Robin get her mc mansion.
• 39:02
  The time that they purchased it, it was I think eight or nine
• 39:05
  hundred thousand dollars Robin's mcmanson and so he couldn't afford to be on both mortgages,
• 39:09
  so he asked Christine to remove him from hers. How could he not
• 39:14
  afford to be on both mortgages if he wasn't making the payments on them,
• 39:16
  because Christine also says that he never made any payments. Christine's income isn't factored
• 39:22
  into his ability to get a mortgage because she's not his wife, so it's
• 39:25
  based on his income and Robin's, and plus they've purchased this property, so
• 39:30
  it's not just Christine's home, it's not just Robin's home, it's also the
• 39:34
  property. So he's very extended in terms of his lending ability, gotcha,
• 39:38
  Yeah damn. So he couldn't do both. And so of course Christine is
• 39:43
  the one who's going to lose because Robin is going to get everything, of
• 39:45
  course, And this was a really big blow to her, but at the
• 39:49
  end of the day worked out really well because when she wanted to leave,
• 39:52
  which really wasn't that long after, she got to leave free and clear,
• 39:57
  which must be nice. And I feel bad that she's saying all of this
• 40:00
  stuff in front of Janelle, because Janelle has a very different situation than Christine,
• 40:05
  And Christine even says that this whole conversation with her brother is not just
• 40:08
  for her brother, it's for Janelle, and she hopes that Janelle can like
• 40:12
  listen to this and maybe decide fully to leave and just separate herself completely.
• 40:17
  But she knows that Janelle's kind of stuck between a rock and a hard price.
• 40:22
  So she's like, the only reason Janelle is still around is because she
• 40:24
  doesn't have anything. Yeah, it's sad, man or Jesus really sad because
• 40:29
  that woman has worked so fucking hard for this family. And back when they
• 40:32
  were living in Lehigh, in that big old Plague house, she was like
• 40:37
  mainly the one bread winner with her and Cody, and she was supporting all
• 40:40
  of this family. She's the one who used her inheritance to purchase the house.
• 40:45
  She's the one who used her own credit to purchase the house. She
• 40:47
  sacrificed a lot for this family and what does she get in return? But
• 40:51
  I mean, also, it was stupid, Janelle. I mean it was
• 40:53
  stupid. Yeah, it is, But I still feel bad for her.
• 40:57
  I feel bad for her as well because she believed. And again it all
• 40:59
  comes back back to this kind of toxic spirituality where your beholden to the patriarch
• 41:04
  right, and the patriarch holds the key to your kingdom on earth and an
• 41:07
  avin right. And if you trust this man who's saying like, yeah,
• 41:10
  I'll get you an asset, or like I'll make sure that you're okay and
• 41:14
  you'll be secure, like and you believe that for thirty fucking years and then
• 41:16
  you get to the end of it and you have nothing. I mean,
• 41:20
  that's devastating, which we hear from Mary, She's like, I am a
• 41:22
  little mad that you didn't do what you promised me to do, but we'll
• 41:24
  get there. In fact, it's time to go back to Coyote Pass,
• 41:29
  and Mary moves on because she said I have to drop a bomb, and
• 41:34
  the bomb is that she popped into her B and B and she really feels
• 41:38
  like the B and B needs her, which prompted a question from me,
• 41:44
  Beatrice, which is, does she not live at the B and B?
• 41:47
  Is she living somewhere else in Prowan, Because it kind of feels like she
• 41:52
  comes in, she manages the biz, and then she goes somewhere else.
• 41:58
  I thought she lived in the carriage house or whatever, or there's a room
• 42:00
  where her mom was in that she stays in while she's there, but it's
• 42:05
  like a temporary thing, like she's not there all the time because she's traveling
• 42:07
  back and forth. I don't know. I just have a feeling like maybe
• 42:12
  for a while she was living somewhere else because it is such a B and
• 42:15
  B. I don't know. I wouldn't want to live in that B and
• 42:17
  B if it were me. But she tells them like, yeah, I've
• 42:22
  got to take care of my business. She says, I still intend to
• 42:27
  build on Coyote Pass, like that plant hasn't changed, And I'm like,
• 42:30
  why, Mary, why? Why? Mary? Literally why And Robin asks
• 42:34
  if, like her going back to attend the B and B is going to
• 42:37
  be temporary? Yeah, why do you even care? Though? Is it
• 42:40
  going to be temporary? And Mary's like, I don't know, but I
• 42:45
  think in this moment, Mary actually does know. Yeah, And then we
• 42:49
  switch over to on the couch and we have Robin saying that she just can't
• 42:53
  and won't fight what Mary is saying because it's just not fair to marry.
• 42:59
  But you are fighting it though in the moment, Yeah, in the moment.
• 43:01
  But I mean she has been going back and forth about how to handle
• 43:06
  Mary because I think she's feeling, in what little remains of her humanity,
• 43:10
  guilty because Mary's sitting alone and she's pining for this man that Robin knows full
• 43:15
  fucking well doesn't want her, along with the rest of the family like Michelt
• 43:20
  and other kids, and she's siding with these other people against Mary. She
• 43:23
  knows, she knows she's a bad actor in the situation, and so she's
• 43:28
  giving up the ghost she's no longer going to ask her to stay, but
• 43:31
  she's known that this whole entire time, though, you know what I mean.
• 43:35
  It's like she's been Cody's right hand man for the last twelve years,
• 43:37
  and she's been his only sole focus right this whole entire time, So like
• 43:43
  he's been telling her how he feels about all of these marriages this whole entire
• 43:46
  time. We know this. So for her to be like, oh,
• 43:51
  I don't want to fight her in this moment. You've been fighting her this
• 43:52
  whole entire time. You've been advocating for their marriage, assuring her this whole
• 43:57
  entire time, guilty her to stay, knowing that she's a loyal person and
• 44:00
  that she doesn't want to break her sacred coven in, and then having Cody
• 44:05
  also manipulating Gaslight marry this whole entire time into staying in, to holding on
• 44:10
  to hope for nothing to happen. I don't know, just bad fucking friend,
• 44:15
  bad person. Oh, one hundred percent a bad friend. And I
• 44:17
  thought it was super based off Mary to say, like, your emotional response
• 44:22
  to my decision that I have to make for my own mental health is not
• 44:24
  my problem. Nope, Like you can be upset, you can be sad
• 44:28
  like that's not going to change what I need to do for myself. Yep.
• 44:31
  I'm like, thank you, because everything you've done thus far, certainly
• 44:35
  for the last few years, you've been doing to try and preserve some relationship
• 44:37
  that's never going to happen, So you have to act in your own best
• 44:42
  interest. Yes, Mary, This is where Cody asked what changed, and
• 44:45
  she says, you know what you said, and then he gets defensive because
• 44:49
  he's a god go goo goo baby who can't take any criticism even though it's
• 44:52
  true, because he's an asshole. Yep. And I hate him sitting there
• 44:57
  with his dumb gloves. I take your gloves off. What do you try?
• 45:00
  What a fucking loser. I'm a motorcyclist. I'm a fucking man.
• 45:04
  I write ATVs OS yep, boom. And here is where we have Robin
• 45:10
  trying to mediate and Mary finally is like, stop, I got this.
• 45:15
  In fact, I've been married to this man for thirty three years. I
• 45:19
  was here before you were fucking a thought in your parents' eyes. Let me
• 45:22
  talk to my man. Thank you, thank you, bitch, and ros
• 45:24
  like okay, okay, So I'm just trying to help, and maybe in
• 45:28
  her mind that's what she's trying to do. Delusional, She is delusional.
• 45:34
  Cody says that he's trying to be honest with Mary in this moment. He
• 45:37
  doesn't want to be a jackass. He doesn't want to be cruel. He
• 45:42
  just wants to tell her how it is. And Mary's like, thank you
• 45:45
  for not being a jackass, because we all know you can be, and
• 45:49
  you've been a jackass ishold her time. This is where we hear that Robin's
• 45:53
  been advocating for seven years because she's trying to make sure that the breakup doesn't
• 45:59
  happen. I think in this moment, Robin is panicking because she sees the
• 46:02
  writing on the wall. She's getting really emotional, she's starting to cry,
• 46:07
  and ultimately she gets up from the table and she walks away. And let's
• 46:12
  talk about this because in the very beginning, when she's like, Okay,
• 46:15
  I gotta step away, I'm having an emotional response. You guys keep talking.
• 46:20
  I was like, fair, yeah, we step away, take a
• 46:22
  walk, right, But then to continue talking and to cry loudly and to
• 46:29
  in effect throw a tantrum, I'm like, oh, you are a narcissist,
• 46:32
  and you're at the damsel in distress, like you want this to all
• 46:36
  be about you, when this is a conversation about Mary and Cody and the
• 46:40
  state of the family and the end effectively of their plural marriage, and you're
• 46:45
  just gonna go off and cry like a fucking bitch baby because it's all about
• 46:49
  you and your porch dream and you're just so sad. I see the writing
• 46:52
  on the wall. Yeah, you saw the writing on the wall ten years
• 46:54
  ago, right, come on, you wrote the writing on the wall exactly,
• 47:00
  And so nobody chases you right, runs after you and takes care of
• 47:02
  your fiefees, and so in short order you end up coming back and sitting
• 47:07
  down and being a part of the conversation. And I was like, oh,
• 47:09
  that was really manipulative. Total, are you trying to get the conversation
• 47:13
  to stop? Because we all have to take care of Robin? What's going
• 47:15
  on here? So yeah, we go back to the conversation though with Mary
• 47:21
  and Cody, because they're talking it out, and even Robin's like, they're
• 47:24
  very calm, and that's what's worrying me, because like, this is this
• 47:29
  is end times. And again I'm like, why do you even care though,
• 47:31
  It's like, it's all just your own bullshit and your own motives,
• 47:36
  just to fulfill your happiness and your dream. Like it's not your fucking relationship.
• 47:42
  You shouldn't fucking care. You should not fucking care, right, But
• 47:45
  she does care. I mean she cares because I do think she feels she's
• 47:50
  in control of this relationship and the rhythm of this relationship. We now get
• 47:53
  into the conversation of duty and acting and performance this, and Cody's saying that
• 48:02
  he has felt duty bound to take care of Mary, and Mary's like,
• 48:07
  I don't want to be anybody's duty. No, I don't want to be
• 48:10
  anybody's stinky duty, because that's not a fucking marriage. And then she's like,
• 48:15
  well, we can all tell the act. And Cody's like, oh,
• 48:19
  is it really that obvious? Yeah, when you're thinking love after twenty
• 48:23
  years of actual marriage, where you did actually care about these women and you
• 48:28
  did make the effort to be with them, and then all of a sudden
• 48:31
  you stop and you put on this act. Yeah, it's fucking obvious.
• 48:34
  It's obvious to everybody. It was obvious from season one actually, well,
• 48:38
  and it was like he was trying to drop these philosophical bombs through this conversation.
• 48:44
  He's like, well, acting is easy. Yeah, okay. Mary's
• 48:46
  like, what are you talking about? Acting is easy? Mary's like,
• 48:50
  what what do you mean? And then he's like, well, what do
• 48:52
  you mean is performance? And Mary's like, yeah, performance. I can
• 48:55
  feel that, I know that you're doing that. What he's trying to do
• 48:58
  is correct that he said that he was acting, which is what it actually
• 49:00
  was. He's trying to say, no, I was performing my duties as
• 49:05
  a husband. I was trying to continue in integrity with you. But no,
• 49:07
  you said it. You said it out loud. We ad which you
• 49:10
  said. It's on film. So at some point, Cody says that it's
• 49:15
  good that he and Mary can be friends as they're sort of negotiating the end
• 49:21
  of the relationship and Robin has returned by this point, and she asks Mary,
• 49:25
  are you accepting that? And Mary laughs at her and it's like,
• 49:29
  I can't do anything but accept it. He's the one who is setting the
• 49:32
  terms. And Mary even said on the couch, I don't like how he's
• 49:37
  putting this all on me, Like it's because of me, because of my
• 49:40
  reactions to what he's doing that. This is all happening. He's not taking
• 49:45
  any responsibility for the fact that he's the one who abandoned me emotionally and he's
• 49:50
  the one who broke our sacred covenant. And this is where Mary says to
• 49:53
  him, but I am a little but I am mad at you for not
• 49:59
  keeping your to me. And she looks him right in the eye, and
• 50:02
  I wonder if this is maybe about where she said I know you can love
• 50:07
  me. Yeah, it probably I know you loved me before. This feels
• 50:10
  like it might have happened at this point in the conversation. I just don't
• 50:14
  understand why they would have edited that out, Like if that was like a
• 50:17
  Cody thing, if he wanted to edit it out, I don't know,
• 50:20
  But like, why show it in the previews and then not show it in
• 50:22
  the season binale. That doesn't make any sense. I don't have him.
• 50:24
  I'd like to have more context to that, But I'm glad that she at
• 50:29
  least looked him dead in the eye and said that shit. And he's just
• 50:31
  silent. He has nothing to say. Maybe that was edited out, I
• 50:35
  don't know, But for him to just not really have any reaction, he
• 50:38
  doesn't give a shit. Well, he's saying it's never going to happen,
• 50:42
  And this is where Robin sort of starts to panic and he checks her.
• 50:46
  Yeah, and he's like, you made me agree to a sacred covenant.
• 50:52
  If our marriage ever became like this pitiful exercise and we didn't want to be
• 50:55
  with each other, we would not stay in this relationship. The implication of
• 51:00
  course being like, then, why would you want Mary to stay in a
• 51:04
  pitiful relationship? Why would you want me to be in a relationship with Mary
• 51:07
  when it's pitiful for me? And on the couch, Cody's like, Robin
• 51:12
  has been doing this for many years against my wishes. Crazy, And yes
• 51:15
  I can fake it, and yes I can pretend to love her, which
• 51:20
  is stupid. Yeah, and then he says for the sake of whatever,
• 51:23
  Yeah, well that whatever is Robin. The only one asking you to fake
• 51:28
  it is Robin, right, Which is very interesting because up until this point
• 51:32
  he hasn't really ever talked about Robin in a negative light. And I'm like
• 51:37
  for him to like kind of throw her out of the bus. I think
• 51:39
  it was like a correction, he corrected her, He corrected her, but
• 51:43
  still like it doesn't make Robin look good at all, you know. And
• 51:45
  they've been so concerned about how they're appearing on national TV, and that's why
• 51:51
  he's been producing a lot of this stuff and producing to tell nothings and not
• 51:54
  wanting to answer questions that are obvious that we know the answers to. And
• 52:00
  then for him to say that I thought that was really interesting. I thought
• 52:02
  so too, And this makes her cry even more. Yeah, and even
• 52:06
  as she's hearing Cody essentially say why are you making us do this? It's
• 52:10
  you? Why are you making us do this when you wouldn't make me do
• 52:14
  this with you? Then all Robin says is, well, but that doesn't
• 52:16
  mean the marriage is over, Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
• 52:20
  It actually precisely means. It entirely means that the marriage is over.
• 52:23
  Robin, She's crazy. And then I think it was Mary who said something
• 52:28
  like, you know, it's not fair to either of us to have to
• 52:30
  stay in all of this, and then Robin's like, well, I know
• 52:34
  I know that, logically, then why are you doing this? Well?
• 52:37
  Mary actually says it's not fair that I yeah, am alone, yeah,
• 52:42
  and lonely and trying so hard it's not fair for me to continue to do
• 52:47
  that in a relationship with somebody that you know does not love me and never
• 52:52
  will love me. So fun And Mary's like, I know, I'm not
• 52:55
  Mary, but Robin says, yeah, I know that's true, and she
• 52:58
  finally agrees, and Mary also says it's also not fair to make Cody do
• 53:02
  that. He doesn't want to do that. Nobody should have to do that.
• 53:05
  Nope, not at all. We kind of start to end the conversation
• 53:09
  by Robin saying like, yes, I agree, but I just I don't
• 53:13
  want this, And then Mary says, well you think I want this.
• 53:15
  I don't want this either, Hello, And then Cody's like, well,
• 53:19
  it's not what I wanted either, And I'm like it isn't. You're the
• 53:22
  one who's driving this entire thing. You're the one who does not want to
• 53:24
  be with Mary or any of these other wives, Like what did you want?
• 53:29
  Do you wanted to just have all of these women stuck around, Yes,
• 53:32
  in their own house, paying in, financially paying and financially for you
• 53:37
  and Robin, neglect out your retirement and be neglected Yes, emotionally, physically,
• 53:40
  sexually, financially, all this stuff like that's what you wanted, Cody.
• 53:45
  Yes, it's fucking wild, and like all of your kids have to
• 53:47
  see that too, Like all of your kids are upset by how you treat
• 53:51
  their moms. And I don't know, I really want to know how Leon
• 53:54
  feels about Cody. I really want to know watching this, whether Leon even
• 53:59
  watches this, But like, if Leon watches this, what does Leon think
• 54:02
  about how Cody is treating Mary. If I was Leon, I would be
• 54:07
  no contact with Cody. Like for sure, I'd be like, fuck you
• 54:10
  dude, for you to treat my mom like this the entire time, and
• 54:14
  like for him to lrd over, Oh well, you only have one kid.
• 54:17
  You only have one kid, so that's why you get less. That's
• 54:20
  why you get a smaller house. It makes sense why Mary fights for a
• 54:23
  big house in Las Vegas, because it's just something for her to feel worthy
• 54:29
  in this family and worthy to Cody, right, like I have a position
• 54:31
  in place, yes, and so it just makes sense all of her shit
• 54:35
  and so and then now it's not just that she has one kid. It's
• 54:37
  now, oh, well, we don't have a marriage, so you don't
• 54:42
  get all of these resources. You don't get my time, you don't get
• 54:44
  my energy. Yeah, but I feel like if you paid in financially a
• 54:46
  lot of money, then you should get an equal distribution. But maybe that's
• 54:49
  something for a lawyer. Mary. Yeah, Robin is a very, very
• 54:53
  upset. And this is where Cody tells us what we've already heard a million
• 54:57
  times, which is Robin came into this family because she wanted plural marriage.
• 55:01
  But then we see Robin on the couch saying I fell in love with Cody
• 55:07
  because he loved Mary and because he loved his wives, and it was not
• 55:12
  an act, which I thought was pretty poignant because he spent a lot of
• 55:15
  time this season saying I never loved Mary, I never loved Christine, I
• 55:20
  never loved Janelle. And we have Robin on the couch saying, uh huh,
• 55:22
  he absolutely loved these women and that's primarily why I fell in love with
• 55:28
  him. I don't know if I believe it. But then she says things
• 55:30
  like she's also tired of him talking like this about his marriages to the wives,
• 55:37
  about how he just like doesn't care about them and doesn't care about Mary
• 55:39
  and all this stuff. So I wonder if there's like a nuggetive truth in
• 55:44
  there, like if she's getting tired of Cody's shit and tired of how he's
• 55:47
  treating these women, But then again, I'm like, you're still enabling it.
• 55:52
  I think that's probably it. And I think that's why she's telling him
• 55:55
  to shut up at the picnic table, because she knows that Cody has been
• 56:00
  in a really toxic, in cell red pilled, misogynistic, hateful headspace since
• 56:05
  Christine walked out of the door, and he couldn't not bring up Christine at
• 56:08
  this picnic table trying to uncouple from Mary. I mean, it is so
• 56:12
  on his mind, in his consciousness and in his heart. He's really reactive
• 56:15
  and pissed. And that's because he's really hurt by it, because I dare
• 56:20
  say he actually loved Christine and he's broken hearted that she left the family because
• 56:24
  she took with her the joy, honey, right, she took with her
• 56:28
  the happiness, the parties, the traditions and all of these things. Now
• 56:31
  there's nothing. And so I think Robin knows that he's in a really bad
• 56:36
  dark spot, and she doesn't want him to make stupid decisions like casting Mary
• 56:42
  out while he's in this headspace or distributing the property before, like while he's
• 56:46
  in this headspace and before he can think clearly. I mean, I guess
• 56:50
  that's fair, and I think there is a partial truth to that. I
• 56:52
  think that there is that upset. But then it's like it's coupled with her
• 56:57
  motives of trying to manipulate him to keep this marriage going for nothing. So
• 57:01
  it's like it's so warped. But she's very, very diluted. She's very
• 57:06
  deluded, and this is why she is saying she's so confused. She doesn't
• 57:09
  understand. Of course, Robin is the last person that's left on Coyote Pass
• 57:15
  because Cody gets on his ATV and rides off with his curls flying in the
• 57:20
  wind, honey, and Mary's just like, peace out, bye bye.
• 57:22
  That was pretty funny, like okay, dork. And then we've got Robin
• 57:25
  like staring at the mountain, look at the mountain, crying, and she's
• 57:30
  like, I can't believe it's all falling apart. I wanted my family.
• 57:34
  I wanted to sit on the porch with my sister wives and our kids and
• 57:37
  our grandkids, and it's all gone. And she's sitting under the weight in
• 57:43
  my opinion, she's sitting under the weight of all that she has done.
• 57:45
  The unfortunate part is she doesn't realize that she did it because she believes she's
• 57:51
  a victim. Yeah, she does believe she's a victim. And I mean,
• 57:54
  to be fair, it isn't all just Robin. It's also Cody,
• 57:58
  of course, and all the weight of his failure too, and him neglecting
• 58:00
  all of these wives just because you know the conclusitness of the wives who put
• 58:05
  up with worship. Yes, so I mean, I guess you're right,
• 58:08
  maybe that she was feeling genuine emotion there, but I still don't see no
• 58:13
  tears, though I saw tears in her little nose got red, and I
• 58:15
  think she's genuinely emotional. It's like, I don't normally advocate for Robin like
• 58:21
  a good sister wife, and I normally don't do that because I don't like
• 58:23
  her, But I feel like she knows the wages of all the bullshit that
• 58:30
  she wrought. I think she fucked around and guess what she's finding out.
• 58:35
  And now all you have is this fucking land that has prairie dog syphilis or
• 58:38
  whatever, and at a drying up pond, no electric hookups, no septic
• 58:45
  that you're gonna have to pay a lot of money to do that, and
• 58:46
  you're not gonna build because you're gonna be in bankruptcy here. You're gonna have
• 58:52
  to divest yourself of a lot of your assets because you're gonna have to fund
• 58:55
  your own lifestyle. So Robin, maybe you're gonna have to get a job,
• 59:00
  or Cody, maybe you're gonna have to get a job. Yeah,
• 59:02
  yeah, because I mean she said that more than once. I know,
• 59:07
  not just in this episode, but through the season. We talked about this
• 59:10
  because I think she's trying to align herself with the other sister Will Yeah,
• 59:15
  but maybe there is a cardinal in there of her thinking about how if the
• 59:21
  money goes and she finds herself in poverty again, Like she's not going to
• 59:24
  hang out. I mean why would you, though, I mean, like
• 59:27
  if Cody's not actually providing for you. Like I know people have said online
• 59:30
  that Cody's doing his gun business stuff, but I'm just like, how much
• 59:34
  money is that really bringing in when you don't have the rest of the wives.
• 59:37
  And we also saw online that he can't sell guns anymore, potentially because
• 59:42
  he was illegally selling guns, and he got dinged for that, and so
• 59:45
  now he's not allowed at the gun shows. And so I think he's got
• 59:47
  a couple of different businesses, like he's always trying to make something work.
• 59:52
  But yeah, if you don't have all of the wives and all of the
• 59:55
  income, you're splitting it five ways, honey, and things are going to
• 1:00:00
  change. Yep. You got all this fucking land and that make mansion and
• 1:00:04
  everything. Oh, I'm ready for the bankruptcy era. I'm ready for the
• 1:00:07
  divorced era. Yes, Robin and Cody, I'm ready for it. All
• 1:00:13
  love it. Now we get to the preview, we see the tell all
• 1:00:16
  Cody looks worse than ever, Like his whole face is red or pink,
• 1:00:20
  and his curls are all fucking tight, and he's dressed in his stupid dandy
• 1:00:23
  suit. He's talking about that at some point he never wanted to speak to
• 1:00:28
  Janelle again. I don't care. I hope she never speaks to you again.
• 1:00:31
  Yeah, bye, you asshole. Then we see Robin on the couch
• 1:00:36
  and talking about Janelle and Cody and the fact that they have six kids and
• 1:00:42
  shouldn't that be enough to make it worth fighting for? Fighting for? We
• 1:00:46
  hear Mary saying that she changed many times for Cody, but it was never
• 1:00:51
  enough. And I'm really hoping that she's going to open up, open that
• 1:00:55
  throat, chakra up, honey, and start telling us the truth. We
• 1:01:00
  can pray it's probably not going to happen. We see Christine saying that Robin
• 1:01:06
  says that she can speak Cody, but that that's bullshit. Cody's saying that
• 1:01:12
  the wives are trash talking him because he's guilty of not loving them. So
• 1:01:16
  you're admitting it. Then you're admitting that the problem was that you didn't love
• 1:01:21
  your wives in the last ten to fifteen. I don't think he's admitting that.
• 1:01:24
  I think he's going to spin it to be they're mad because I didn't
• 1:01:29
  give him this dick. They're mad because they wanted all of this and I
• 1:01:32
  don't want to give it to them because they're awful, hateful women with stretch
• 1:01:37
  marks, and so why would I want to be with Robin? Like that's
• 1:01:39
  how he's going to see it. But the only reason they're trash talking him
• 1:01:45
  is because he didn't want to love them. Ooh him, Yeah, I
• 1:01:49
  mean, oh god. And then we meet David. Yeah, Christine's love
• 1:01:53
  of her life, and I'm like, when is this being filmed? Though,
• 1:01:57
  honestly, when was the tell all for season eighteen? It must have
• 1:02:00
  been what spring. I think it's current day because actually, in one of
• 1:02:04
  her talking heads in this episode, she says, a couple of years ago
• 1:02:08
  I left Cody, and I'm like, god, so we're fucking recording these
• 1:02:12
  tell awso twenty twenty three. Yes, I mean that makes sense though so
• 1:02:15
  ridiculous, but I'm just like, stop, I'm so tired of watching old
• 1:02:20
  ass fucking footage. And somebody wrote us on Instagram it was like, we're
• 1:02:23
  just gonna see next season it's going to be footage from twenty twenty two again,
• 1:02:28
  and they're still gonna be referencing COVID maybe unless they come back in spring
• 1:02:31
  of twenty twenty four and they wrap it up and get us to current day.
• 1:02:35
  My point is that the tell all was probably filmed two or three months
• 1:02:40
  ago if it tracks with what they did last year. Yeah, so Christine
• 1:02:46
  had known David for what a year? Yeah, I'm just like and you
• 1:02:51
  were like, Okay, he's the love of your life and the second person
• 1:02:52
  you ever kissed, like ever, so calm down, a little bit.
• 1:02:55
  Well, she's already married, so she's not calming down anytime soon. You
• 1:03:00
  live your life. The last thing we see is Cody saying that, yeah,
• 1:03:05
  he told Mary he loved her at some point, and in the beginning
• 1:03:07
  he chose to love her again, running with this idea that he never loved
• 1:03:13
  any of his wives, which is cruel, which you don't really need to
• 1:03:15
  do. Which, by the way, you have children by these women.
• 1:03:20
  You think your children want to hear that you never loved their mom I mean
• 1:03:23
  Jesus Christ and Grass. And if you really think that this storyline is going
• 1:03:29
  to make you look any better, Cody, than you're a fucking idiot,
• 1:03:31
  absolute fucking idiot. Do you think he cares about that? I think he
• 1:03:35
  does. You do. He's not on internet. He's not on the internet
• 1:03:37
  because he can't face the music, and everybody's just commenting, blowing up his
• 1:03:43
  Instagram on the old ass Instagram posts from twenty nineteen. She's commenting constantly from
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  these seasons. Well, and he did ask Mormonism Live to edit, so
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  he is caring about that. I do have a comment about that. Actually,
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  Okay, well, why don't you pull it up? Well, so
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  this was sent to us from Amanda on Instagram. Hi Amanda, and this
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  is a statement from one of the guys on Mormonism Live. So one of
• 1:04:08
  the hosts of the show, because I guess the hosts are getting a bunch
• 1:04:11
  of heat for going too soft on Cody, and so this was his statement
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  to those who felt we went too soft on Cody Brown. I'm sorry you
• 1:04:18
  experienced that. Can I share a few thoughts about the Cody Brown interview?
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  One is that to secure Cody, his handlers were very apprehensive about a live
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  interview. Hence, we had to make assurances that we would be respectful and
• 1:04:31
  stay away from certain topics, namely show spoilers which meant family relationship drama and
• 1:04:36
  discussing the AUB specifically. Second, I feel we did ask tough questions,
• 1:04:43
  but we chose to keep those around three areas. Number one, the challenges
• 1:04:46
  of being on TV. Number two, what is it like to live in
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  polygamy generally? And number three how is faith shifted? We weren't aware of
• 1:04:55
  all the hate towards him, how could you not be and didn't sense that
• 1:04:59
  until just before the interview. Also, we knew that this interview would have
• 1:05:03
  a large viewership of folks who had never seen our show before, and our
• 1:05:06
  goal was to present our best selves and not play favorites with Cody and the
• 1:05:11
  Cody haters. It likely was too respectful for some, but I actually am
• 1:05:15
  proud of how much problematic stuff we got him to acknowledge, and I'm thrilled
• 1:05:19
  with how well the show came off quality wise. Anytime we have a guest,
• 1:05:24
  we need to show a level of respect, otherwise no controversial guest will
• 1:05:28
  take the chance to talk with us. I hope you can understand, and
• 1:05:30
  that makes sense, But I mean, you're bringing Cody Brown on right in
• 1:05:34
  the middle of season eighteen, which is the most dynamic and hostile and terrible
• 1:05:42
  season of Sister Wives, with people out here reacting in the raccoon streets about
• 1:05:45
  what an asshole he is, and so it's kind of like an excuse that
• 1:05:49
  you don't hold his feet to the fire a little bit, because nobody ever
• 1:05:54
  holds his feet to the fire ever. And then that's why it's so fucking
• 1:05:58
  frustrating with this tell all four parts. By the way, Oh, she's
• 1:06:00
  gonna be Mar's heart starting when next week, I think, oh, they
• 1:06:05
  say, but then we have to have fucking Sukiana again again. Girl Suki
• 1:06:11
  got roasted. She did so hard last year on Instagram after the last tell
• 1:06:15
  all that she did or the tail nothing like, people were up in her
• 1:06:18
  comments dragging her. So she knows what people want. She can't say she
• 1:06:25
  doesn't know what people want, and so I wonder if that is going to
• 1:06:29
  inform her interview style and if she will allow herself to be pushed around by
• 1:06:33
  Cody Brown like he pushed her around last time. I'm just I feel really
• 1:06:38
  disrespected me too by DLC. I feel really disrespected by the production company me
• 1:06:42
  too, because, like you said, I think last week, we will
• 1:06:45
  just watch anything and they know it, so they don't try and they don't
• 1:06:47
  give us anything higher level or like a broader conversation. There's no accountability.
• 1:06:53
  They don't give us shit, no as long as we're watching, even though
• 1:06:56
  most of us, a lot of people, not most, A lot of
• 1:06:59
  people are going to stop watching after this season because it was so fucking bad.
• 1:07:02
  A lot of people have already stopped watching halfway through this season. We
• 1:07:05
  get a lot of comments on YouTube and stuff of people being like, I'm
• 1:07:08
  only watching y'all because I don't care to watch this horseshit anymore because it's crap
• 1:07:13
  and it's redundant, redund tato. Every single week, it's the same thing
• 1:07:16
  filmed on an iPhone. What the fuck is this? I know it's just
• 1:07:19
  old fucking footage, just like, just give us honest conversations with these people.
• 1:07:23
  But you can't because you know we're gonna watch anything. And that's why
• 1:07:27
  you also changed the release times for the episodes, Like now we have to
• 1:07:30
  wait until nine pm at fucking night on Sunday, when last year we got
• 1:07:33
  the episodes at eleven am on Discovery Plus. And now you're changing it for
• 1:07:39
  why, just for money? I guess I don't have any idea. It's
• 1:07:42
  making my life uncomfortable because we could have been filming these podcasts on a Sunday
• 1:07:45
  and releasing them on a Monday. It's so inconvenient. It's not us,
• 1:07:49
  we got jobs. I'm pissed off. I'm pissed off, Like it wouldn't
• 1:07:54
  be that hard to just make sure that they're all in one room and that
• 1:07:58
  you have a competent interviewer who's gonna ask truthful questions and knows how to deal
• 1:08:02
  with a fucking nark like Cody and or Robin, and allowing Janelle to answer
• 1:08:08
  in real time when Cody says shit like I never loved her, I made
• 1:08:12
  a choice to love her, or allowing Mary to just be able to react
• 1:08:15
  in real time to when he says things like that. But because he's segregated
• 1:08:19
  and in his own special place, he's gonna say all these it's all lies.
• 1:08:25
  Yep, we want truth. That's why I just feel like I'm pissed
• 1:08:28
  I watch this. I'm like, I'm sick of this. I feel like
• 1:08:30
  I've been going to dinner with the same dysfunctional family every week and I need
• 1:08:33
  a fucking break. Yep. Nobody's telling the truth. Everybody's gaslighting, and
• 1:08:36
  I'm just sitting here trying to eat my dinner. Nice. God, it's
• 1:08:41
  freaking ridiculous. And I wonder if Cody was the reason why they're doing the
• 1:08:45
  one on ones, because he refused to be in the same room with Christine
• 1:08:48
  and maybe Mary he just didn't want to be a part of it. Let
• 1:08:51
  me say again, he has no leverage. He has no power. If
• 1:08:57
  you tell him that he has to sit in a group setting and answer questions
• 1:09:01
  and or he does not get his fucking paycheck, or he doesn't get half,
• 1:09:05
  or he forfeits fifty percent of his seasonal paycheck, especially after all of
• 1:09:10
  his wives left him. You don't think he's gonna sit down in a group
• 1:09:12
  setting and defend himself, right, he has no other choice. Why does
• 1:09:15
  he have so much power? TolC I don't understand is the head of production,
• 1:09:19
  who I guess lives next to him. Are these guys friends? Are
• 1:09:21
  they just commiserating? And how they can fucking fuck all of these loyal wives
• 1:09:27
  for real? It's absolutely ridiculous. But maybe from the preview of the tell
• 1:09:31
  all, I mean, Christine starts talking about Robin speaking Cody and how she
• 1:09:35
  thinks that's bullshit, and how she said she was gonna be nice but she's
• 1:09:39
  not going to be So maybe we'll get some fucking truth, Maybe we'll get
• 1:09:42
  some tea spilled. But I swear to god, if it's four fucking parts
• 1:09:45
  of a tell all where we have to see reruns of the same season that
• 1:09:48
  we just fucking want we're gonna have, we're gonna have to do it.
• 1:09:51
  Werena, They're gonna be watching it in the little square on television. They're
• 1:09:55
  gonna watch the same shit we've already seen after we've already seen it a million
• 1:09:59
  times. We're gonna the same I'm getting married in ninety ninety. No Janello's
• 1:10:03
  same fucking family picture out of Coyote Fat Pass. I know, over and
• 1:10:08
  over again, we're gonna see the same fucking footage. It's gonna be ridiculous.
• 1:10:12
  I hate that shit. The Beverly Hill. All the Housewives do this,
• 1:10:15
  but the Beverly Hills are the worst. Like, they'll show you a
• 1:10:17
  flashback of something that just happened in this episode ten minutes earlier. I'm like,
• 1:10:23
  did you think I wasn't here watching that I was asleep or something like,
• 1:10:26
  I'm here watching. You don't need to show me what I just saw
• 1:10:28
  ten minutes right. And that's all Sister Wives says done this entire season.
• 1:10:31
  H whole ass broke as fuck ass shit, fucking asshole, fucking a holes.
• 1:10:40
  Ah, Papa, I'm upset about it. I'm not taking fucking forensic
• 1:10:45
  notes on these fellows. I'm just gonna come in. I'm gonna be drunk.
• 1:10:47
  I'm gonna be like, yeah, bubble sudden, this is what These
• 1:10:50
  are my ten main takeaways from these tell alls, because why am I trying
• 1:10:54
  so hard when these people don't fucking try. And plus everybody lies, Yep,
• 1:10:58
  they all lie, but they better not fuck lie on the tell all.
• 1:11:00
  We'll see. I'm gonna be disappointed, Matrice. They're gonna lie on
• 1:11:02
  the Beatrice. Their whole identity is to lie, Beatrice. They don't even
• 1:11:06
  see themselves accurately. They don't tell the truth to themselves, Beatrice. That's
• 1:11:12
  all they know is to lie. It is our job to dissect what they're
• 1:11:15
  saying and tell you the truth. But I'm getting tired of this ship.
• 1:11:17
  I'm getting tired of it too. And at least Ethan Plath is waking up,
• 1:11:20
  honey, I mean, that's true. At least he's saying the truth.
• 1:11:23
  At least he's getting some boundaries and he's asserting them. At least he's
• 1:11:26
  speaking truth to power. That's true. That's true. And these people are
• 1:11:30
  doing that. Nope, And I'm disgruntled, but too. Once again,
• 1:11:34
  it is Thanksgiving week, and so I'm gonna put this ship down for the
• 1:11:38
  week. Yeah, we are not gonna return later to talk about Plath Phill
• 1:11:41
  or ninety Day Fiance. We will return next week. We'll catch everybody up.
• 1:11:45
  It's gonna be okay. But in the meantime, we're gonna enjoy ourselves
• 1:11:48
  moss cocktails, Yeah, cocktails and food. I'm gonna get super tubby.
• 1:11:53
  I'm gonna come back in. I'm gonna be like, oh oh job on
• 1:11:57
  an old bottom. I'm gonna come and I'll be looking for lovey okay,
• 1:12:01
  same, And I hope that you guys have a beautiful, wonderful holiday if
• 1:12:05
  you celebrate here in the US, and if you don't, I hope you
• 1:12:08
  guys have a wonderful week. We will be back next week to talk.
• 1:12:12
  Well, what if there's no tell all on Sunday or Monday, then we'll
• 1:12:15
  have a break and we'll come back on Wednesday and talk ninety day fiance and
• 1:12:19
  Platville, Platfield. That's what it's going to be. But there's lots of
• 1:12:23
  shit on Patreon though too, by the way, tons of shit. And
• 1:12:25
  we're still releasing content weekly on Patreon, other shows that we love to go
• 1:12:30
  crazy about, just like we go crazy about those or why all right,
• 1:12:33
  is there anything else, Beatrice that we need to say to these beautiful rules.
• 1:12:38
  Well, I do want to say that we're very thankful for all of
• 1:12:41
  you Raccoons for supporting our podcasts and the spirit of thanksgiving. Thank you for
• 1:12:45
  making this podcast what it is. I mean, we wouldn't have been here
• 1:12:47
  if it weren't for y'all. Yeah, it's amazing. So if you love
• 1:12:50
  our podcast like we love you, I hope that you give us a glowing
• 1:12:54
  five star review on your favorite podcast platform. It really helps us grow.
• 1:12:58
  Thank you so much. Until next week, don't forget that we love you
• 1:13:01
  and pease Elbins