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WrestleCast: Episode 240 · WrestleCast Radio

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[SPEAKER_06]: Russell cast radio.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to get new merch soon because I think I'm going to take down the summit stuff since I haven't done the summit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That'll give us two more spots.
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[SPEAKER_06]: The red circle era.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, is this like the Paul of back era, but it doesn't suck.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Man, but better.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We're more mature.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you see that that algebra pan thing I said to you?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It says, so it was, it's a shallot, a shallot, Baba.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This was what he sent to all the gaigens via typewriter, what I would like.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Very clap, very, very clap, very hard.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I hear that now the premiere of episode 239 is 30 seconds away from premiering on YouTube, but it was just playing in the background.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I apologize for that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, fun YouTube, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What's the year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As long as you clean out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: apologies if that picked up on the on the edit there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I could edit it but that sucks because this is real life and that should actually happen so we just got around with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we we were telling you last week we were going to come in and kind of just go over 2025 as a whole and just discuss you know what's going on for the first nine months of the year or we haven't been with you
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[SPEAKER_03]: We had some big time breaking news.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And for those of you who two things know our show, we've covered this company for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And for those that know me, this is my all-time company for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm staring at this man directly in front of me, Alex.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll shift it over to you, because you wanted to bring this up first, because you thought of the important thing with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is important as hell, I think.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, go she Azaki, uh, quietly, abruptly, uh, leaving Noah, uh, yes, the infamous, I am Noah, not we are Noah, I am Noah, uh, the man who's a, a wonderful, yet chaotic tag team called the Axis with, uh,
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[SPEAKER_06]: GD, when I was getting into my Nova space, like 2018 to like 2022, 23, he was a huge focal point.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He was at a spot where I was like, okay, he's like an elder, even though he's not that much older, he was like the Ocada asks, like maybe a step above Naito in a way of a head of a promotion.
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[SPEAKER_06]: uh... maybe i won't go that'll kind of stretch you he appeared to you know want that mantle and that talk you know especially with some of the appearance uh... if you will uh... different styles though for sure but uh... no it this was definitely something big and uh... as he stated uh... you know of course on the wonderful uh... a bureau program translations that black spots that come
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, sorry, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm speaking to talk to you, sports.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, I get all my stuff, but yeah, he admits he's just a freelancer now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, go, can damn well appear wherever, go, well, please, is Ryan.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What do your thoughts of this is an era of, I am Noah, even though I think Noah's more of a collaborative effort.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Even though I think one of those hour might disagree with that statement, but as you pointed out to me a few go-shiozaki matches back in the early 2010s with some certain New Japan brethren, what does this do long-term?
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[SPEAKER_06]: and short term for Noah at the current moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So this one, now, now I didn't know this was a thing until you had sent it to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I had watched the end one final he worked in a match on it, and you know it was what it was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Holy shit man, this to me is huge.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, and a lot of people are like, well, you know, maybe it's not that big of a deal because, you know, goes, you know, he's, he's not going anymore.
8:03
[SPEAKER_03]: And I understand that because 2020 that you'd killed himself in that COVID title run to save that company, that our lot of match we talked about with iron head like iron head.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the main thing for me, too, is, you know, cyber, cyber agent got rid of the green ring.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now the hair to Missala, the guy who was trained and picked and brought over, you know, he left for all Japan and came back after he, he was with Noah left and then he couldn't, he couldn't hand.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was, I believe he was Missala's partner and then he actually died in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I should, I should Google that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: just because I could be wrong for some reason, though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I believe he was in the last match with Masala when that happened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, and then he left her for Al-Japan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My timeline is a little weird in that, that side apologize.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But at the end of the day, the last piece of Masala's gone, man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that, that fucking kills me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that sucks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: you know he was he was one of those you know I know everyone always talks about those those pillar if you will but like him and Junaki Amor the guys to carry on by Masala after the with Marifuji
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, like I said, you know, as legendary as that COVID run was over here with the title, he killed himself in those matches and I know he's not the same as he was, but you know, he's not, he's not, he's not Tana, he's not NATO, he's not Sina, you know, he's 43 years old still and I think he can still go and I want to like, I want to know where he's going to turn up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't at what like 2022 where he was out for that long stretch of time because the injury is pretty much caught up to him, you know, people were fretting, you know, even some neck injuries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that, that, that, that COVID title run, I mean, he, he killed himself on that run.
10:16
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Or I remember all the next time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: and all the stiff spots and the stair-downs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, him and Naka Jima, him and him and Ken O, the amount of punishment he let Ironhead give him in that second half of that match like, yeah, he was killing himself for this company and that's because he loved this company.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, he, he, he won, he won his first GFC heavyweight title the day after Masala and what a died.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, he was his last tag partner like I thought so I mean, to me, that's, you know, one of those torch passings were it's like, wow, one in Oman.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The day after Masala passes away, he wins the world title like this is the guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then, you know, and then he comes back and it, this is wild.
11:03
[SPEAKER_03]: It's wild.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, I want to know what he's got.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's what I, so I posed the question to you when I was at the gym trying to get my iron head for Gita on.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And The trumpet.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Ever since my heart got cleared, I'm starting to drink many, many different options, but I can't wait to get the, the Fujita mix back here in the U.S.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I posed a question to you, you know, I've been hyping for the last like five months.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, damn pretty much like, yeah, it's a probably early spray.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, hey, the big money match, you get all kind of back at the dough and we've got to do him and to Keshida.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So to Keshida signed all three companies, he's the hottest guy right now, and this was before him winning the G1, and where I was like, oh my god, I'm sorry for hung with the people of
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's like one of them, you know, granted he cut his teeth with DDT and, you know, the history of him writing letters for many summers.
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[SPEAKER_06]: See, and I want to train, you know, as a teenager until I believe he was 16 when he was finally allowed to come up and he's been with DDT ever since and still is, which is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That all the other two companies in Japan and AWS have allowed him to do that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But you know and you brought that up with that we were talking about a week ago is like does Gato Change it does he get worried now with how the fan criticism of Takeshita winning the G1
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[SPEAKER_06]: and you know possibly going on to main event to don't miss it that will hit her trick ticket sales spoiler alert it doesn't because we have a american wrestler and a uh... your company uh... over the last uh... what twenty three years uh... is saying you know is hanging up off of the last time you're gonna sell twenty thousand tickets in your first day as rustic kingdom did today so congrats uh...
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[SPEAKER_06]: But let's go pair and wolf this and cool shit, but Oh my god, I could watch it on the Sunday morning, you mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll be Saturday night Sunday morning Oh for sure, we're going.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I read you better take that off
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, we took it, and I was like, so if Takeshita's already, you know, kind of if Gato gets cold feet or cold sushi, pulls to Keshita, you know, he doesn't say, hey, you're not going to be exact for the title.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But we're going to bring in Gooshiyo Zaki as a comment after and then challenge X-Average Udysu.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's pretty much it's a free for all, you know, after King of Pro Wrestling next Saturday or next Sunday, or Monday, deal with whatever.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So is Shiyo Zaki is that going to be
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[SPEAKER_06]: Is that going to add more to the ticket sales or is this more of like early a w or current a w ticket sales of a hey this is going to be a big event it's going to sell anyways.
14:33
[SPEAKER_06]: We can throw wherever the fuck we want to do, um, we already got the, we got the bag.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We got the end.
14:39
[SPEAKER_06]: If you will.
14:40
[SPEAKER_03]: The dome show is always going to be something people are just going to go to no matter what.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's, you know, it's, it's like maniac and shit like like all in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We brought all in tickets before I was speculating what the card was before it was released and we want tickets.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm gonna go just to go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're we're the you need to have a payoff is In Japan you need to give a reason to have that walk up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're always gonna you're always gonna do your your cell your tickets But you Japan's a bigger walk-up audience.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like than America I feel like if you're going to a wrestling show to America you're buying your tickets You don't buy them at the door anymore No, no, but
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[SPEAKER_03]: you know like especially at the WWE event and you might get him cheaper when like when we when when you know we went when we went when we went to Japan we walked to Korkin and bought our tickets at Korkin we bought him at the building.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know you have to write in the perfect spot too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like it's it's so important to have that walk up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's where you do have to deliver on something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The more and more I think about it, I don't think Shiazaki goes to New Japan, just for the fact of all you're doing is bringing another veteran to stop the push of young guys and at some point they have to stop Yeah, but the young guys, but the young guys are not showing that they're ready See, like, like, one, one Yota Suji, I think is ready I think so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah You're more as ready
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're more insuji are my two girls my my eighth, but I think Gabe kid is ready If you say These days at some point when are you gonna start making a move with one of these guys and you know, you're trying to with We'll try it with somebody else It should have tried it with suji eight months ago.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I've been granted there are given them secondary titles, but when he had that title answered again
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[SPEAKER_06]: whatever Bolsheza champion there was like sonata or evil or whatever uh... that's when you pull the trigger i forgot what title matches like this is disguised hotter than ever this is like two wrestle kingdoms ago and then all of a sudden it's like nope and it's like well now you got a reset but again he's beginning those bigger matches he's getting those longer run uh... match times and he's proving that
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[SPEAKER_06]: that he can be the guy.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But to be fair, I just don't see you at a sushi as that long term guy.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I see him as a short term two to three-year possible ceiling, and unless he gets in way better shape and not, you know, not that I'm one to talk or whatnot, but like I know that guy can be like,
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[SPEAKER_06]: He could turn it to like Damian Priest, essentially, where priest was the same way, even a little bit bigger, and now that guy is pulling in little vice is all over the world, you know, shut out by sexual undertaker.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But, uh, does he show up in DDT?
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, be fucking crazy if you show something bleep, and, uh, they got their yoke and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow and yellow
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you throw a lot again Adam to come out to glee I mean they have the money for that's see that's the one thing like all I think Algebraan could be a feasible landing place because that's where he initially went to and I think if you run the the day to new year show like the on January 3rd in at Corcorcan if you run or you think it's in a hybrid date that long
18:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he just got to, he's got two brand new knees.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, completely brand new knees inside of his legs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe he's not, you know, maybe he gives him some time to be at use to having the new knees on him, things like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, he could still work other things to in the meantime, but I could see if you want to try to sell up cork and in your algebra pan, you do me a horror and she is a hockey for the title on January 3rd.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, if you're all Japan, you do that and then when you're new Japan, you say, hey, you come bring that triple crown title and then you're going to challenge, you know, for rookie go-to, because you're going to be Zack Saber Jr.
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[SPEAKER_06]: randomly at a tag and a bro tag link show with no announcers and just a steady cam, but, uh,
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, like if you she is ackey like who's in a better position go she is ackey or as I kind of compared and a little bit higher to see a night oh not not not merchandise wide or even like world renowned like person personable you know like this I guess or you know just fandom but I think she is ackey within the
19:46
[SPEAKER_06]: Piero community probably is a little bit more respected, but who's that the better free-lance or moment?
19:51
[SPEAKER_06]: Who's that guy you go and sign more?
19:54
[SPEAKER_06]: Who's going to bring in those extra tickets?
19:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Knightal is always going to be your driver.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like the most popular wrestler like three years in our own Tokyo sports awards.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's your driver.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think if you're trying to put on a
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[SPEAKER_03]: a awesome, memorable wrestling match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think she is Aki.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think Naito's better than she is Aki.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I think Naito can still do a couple things, but I mean, look at his match with Heromo at, you know, that we watched last year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like a two year ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She is Aki is not going to give you a match that bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh but once again i i i totally believe that she is ackey is less of a draw if that makes sense um i just i mean but like night toll like night toll and bush either you know there there's still doing out there at room pro i mean there are headlining there pro in a tag matching in so there i mean i don't think night toll is any interest in coming back right off the bat and anyway
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[SPEAKER_06]: My thing too is, if you're she Azaki, I mean, granted, he's only 43, like you said, he's got new knees, like he's 41.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, why don't you though now, if you're feeling, you know, a little extra pep in your step there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Don't you go and make that big special attraction match if you're not gonna go for the IWGP title?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Or fucking evil match, why don't you do go she Azaki?
21:30
[SPEAKER_03]: and who wrote she down as she that's what i was gonna that's what i was saying that in case you didn't drop it was i think if you need something to do with tanaashi you say you know you bring in she is a key because you have the you know he was the ace for a minute of all japan he was the ace in know uh... tanaashi's a former all japan triple crown champion he's all you know he's got that it be gp title so there's a connection between them
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[SPEAKER_06]: And she's back he was out in 2021.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, right after he murdered himself in that 13 month like program of chasing winning and retaining that title.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, no, that's You easily, you easily could do maybe what?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Do you think they could reach 42,000 if they announced that match?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that would be big.
22:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I think, okay, if you put Aaron Wolf and some kind of a match that you know, he's just not going to get beat by a Boston crab like every other young boy like.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you, you know, or even at least make him look credible in the loss.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's totally fine.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You did shingo.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he shit, that would be good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Shingo would, I mean, you couldn't have him beat shingo, but I don't think anyone would give a crap.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, shingo, what am I?
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[SPEAKER_06]: He would say, yeah, this is your time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Shingo's getting paid.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's wearing those watches.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's fine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Shingo's going, we're going to have a helmet match, kid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As much students, you can't do that.
23:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to hit you with a glass of the dragon and that's it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You kick out.
23:07
[SPEAKER_06]: I do the whole shit look, and then you give me your finisher at the end.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, if they have been beat shingle, I would, I don't even know what I would do.
23:17
[SPEAKER_03]: That would be wild.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think it would be wild.
23:20
[SPEAKER_06]: What if dragon kid does a run in and makes a miraculous, miraculous recovery?
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[SPEAKER_06]: It comes out and then calls shingle the match.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then it retires because of them.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We're a full box.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It did shingo goes, I want to re-match and drag kids like if you want to go through me, you got to go through this and if we're on block talk, we would play Dragon Dio!
23:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Right now, but we don't have it anymore.
23:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, bring him out.
23:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Bummer.
23:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so you do Tana as she's she is Oki.
23:54
[SPEAKER_03]: You do a big match for Aaron Wolf and you do Okata and Takeshita for the title.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think you could hit 40.
24:02
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, Russell kingdom 12 right there or, or 11 or Zach just beats the Keshana and they do Zach Saber and O'Cotta Now we've recently had a scene if it's, it's, it's never bad Oh, I guess that, but no, I think your money matches I'm a grantant to Keshana, you know, has been wrestling for 10 plus years, but he's that guy where he's like 20 what?
24:32
[SPEAKER_06]: so like he's still relatively young where he's getting pushed and he's getting that world-wide recognition within wrestling fans now.
24:41
[SPEAKER_06]: He's getting that momentum over the last couple years with the AEW exposure and just putting on banger after banger after banger sorry shameless to catch it is taking that crown and then just like four arms you and then
25:02
[SPEAKER_06]: If you do those three and then you've got to have Would you have got to face that do you have him in?
25:14
[SPEAKER_03]: You could do you could do go to and Okay, so You could have go to wrestle the winner of game kid.
25:22
[SPEAKER_06]: You ought to sue you That's true.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was thinking I was like you do have a game kid
25:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that would be tight.
25:33
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, yeah, if rain is back from film and street fighter, who knows, maybe a rookie go-to is as well.
25:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, it's interesting, the only thing that makes me think this doesn't happen is I don't know if Tony Khan's going to
25:56
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, he's a sickle for wrestling and a puro hat.
25:59
[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to do it.
26:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't or I'm going with this, right?
26:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, no, you can't do the match.
26:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm doing the match.
26:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
26:06
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so unless he burns the match first, then, you know, I could see like if they wrestle in like December, but see that I don't it's so hard because it takes them to sneak out of it.
26:17
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
26:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Or are you?
26:19
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't, I don't, I don't want to title qualifier qualifier,
26:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want any of that to do this to this um in uh what's the December paper view is that dynasty or what uh that will be world then world then at the country okay in Chicago world then to Kesha O'Kata for the title O'Kata beats him and you have O'Kata then show up in New Japan and say I just beat you and now I'm gonna beat you again for that title.
26:54
[SPEAKER_06]: No, if you don't, if you don't advertise him going there four days late, five days later, no, no, that's a missed opportunity.
27:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I don't, I don't see Ocata agreeing to go work any of the shows is the problem with all this.
27:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Why why what's his beef with Gado now he left because he didn't want to be there anymore He didn't want to do anymore New Japan.
27:18
[SPEAKER_03]: He said he's over Japan.
27:19
[SPEAKER_06]: He's done really good to one off match He's gonna get paid to four million dollars for what you wouldn't go for one match into your family Oh, I'm going current one stamp.
27:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but like his his wife moved over here with them and she's doing work here now like
27:33
[SPEAKER_06]: They, I'm sure they got people out there and you can go hang out with, with, with cancer.
27:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Everything you're saying I agree with.
27:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, there's still something in the back of my mind that makes me think this could get held up between the two of them.
27:47
[SPEAKER_06]: Is the rainmaker, man?
27:49
[SPEAKER_06]: He's money talks, money talks.
27:52
[SPEAKER_03]: So, when is, so world's end is December 27th.
27:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so that would be really late.
28:01
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's see, do a whole all in all out.
28:03
[SPEAKER_06]: Moxley, punk, title match, gimmick, or dynamite, all out type of thing.
28:08
[SPEAKER_06]: So, they have the match after the match, like weak support.
28:12
[SPEAKER_03]: So, New Japan doesn't have anything booked after December 14th, which is the world tagly finals before the dome.
28:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Usually do the Christmas court.
28:20
[SPEAKER_05]: The chair.
28:23
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't have enough jet.
28:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Tagly is going from November 20th to December 14th.
28:31
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... there's a new japan road show two weeks before that a week before that is the tana hashy final homecoming and then it's a super junior tag we before that and then it's king of for us so i don't know when they would break like i don't know how they get to this match because at how many teams do they have in that junior league like seven uh... i don't think they've even announced yet they probably want to know to tell um... king of for wrestling
28:56
[SPEAKER_06]: No, but I'm saying, like they have like no juniors, the form like a formidable tagly.
29:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I think last year, then 16 teams.
29:06
[SPEAKER_06]: She's 16.
29:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to look right now.
29:11
[SPEAKER_03]: So they last year, they were doing the new, the super junior tag league and the road to power struggle at the same time.
29:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it looks like there's there was blocks.
29:23
[SPEAKER_03]: So they, yeah, there must have been a bunch of dudes in this super junior tag league 2024.
29:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Me or on?
29:29
[SPEAKER_05]: So the 2024 super junior tag league.
29:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I was one by the Ichiban sweet boys, two, so there's 12 teams.
29:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Robbie Eagles and, uh, co-save Fujita, Clark Conner's Jala Malobi, show in Kanamaru, Taguchi and Dragon Daya, Bushi Haromu and Tiger Mask, Captain Suacita, and then it was Francisco Akira T.J.P.
29:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Kushita Kevin Knight, Ishimori Robbie X, the DKC Ninja Mac, Yolo Raki-Ramero, and then the velocities.
30:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they were in the velocities back.
30:10
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that would be interesting.
30:13
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you think they would, yeah, I think a lot of people would actually like that.
30:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they were there.
30:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd certainly were great last year.
30:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't watch it.
30:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I won't lie, but I'm certainly are great.
30:24
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, so we're at a stalemate possible two-mast to Schingo here and we'll book it.
30:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I like that.
30:33
[SPEAKER_06]: A blue sheet versus someone.
30:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but yeah, I would love to see a bushy work again, especially for how good he looked coming But he was so nice when he came back and wrestle a little car and then did that cage that he actually looked like a slur again Yeah, he looked like a bushy 2020 one my my gimmick is well, no, we can't really do that never mind It's gonna be an interesting dome sure of this year.
31:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah
31:02
[SPEAKER_06]: You've got to do a lot of startup.
31:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you you've got to do what three startup matches this year out of promotion than they are I think you run theory sorry three on that show I don't know man show enough to stay for nominees for that those two these year this year you could it's the same thing bring your back for a one off just like oh, God it's the same thing you know what I mean
31:32
[SPEAKER_03]: But the problem is, startups not going to want to burn that match at the dome.
31:36
[SPEAKER_06]: They're going to want us to know what will counteract as she is ackey, don't match.
31:40
[SPEAKER_06]: What do they do for their January 3rd?
31:43
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's all Japan, never mind.
31:44
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, it has the first of the year.
31:46
[SPEAKER_06]: So they have the first year's show.
31:48
[SPEAKER_06]: Is that what we're going to be ready by then, do you think?
31:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
31:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I think in a perfect world, you have... Wow, okay, let me ask you this.
31:58
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a goofy crazy idea.
32:01
[SPEAKER_06]: It could it was our we know as over as fuck like no, you know we also had a change of heart He said he stated since his injury he has realized he was a bad person Of course, I'm not quoting it, but he was like he has seen the era of his ways.
32:20
[SPEAKER_06]: He shaved his face
32:23
[SPEAKER_06]: He says he would be a better person all about love and pieces.
32:27
[SPEAKER_06]: So you bring this is like a week or so ago.
32:29
[SPEAKER_03]: You bring Ozzala back and you have Masakita Mia when the title from Kenton next weekend.
32:34
[SPEAKER_03]: And you do key to Mia as the new leader of Team 2000 and so Zal at one one.
32:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I would be all over that right now, Masaki to me is probably my most in progress of the year.
32:44
[SPEAKER_03]: His two, three months is it?
32:46
[SPEAKER_06]: I've been a part of the key to me a crew for like five years.
32:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
32:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Since COVID, man, when he did that, sent on off the cage.
32:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
32:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, he got cooled off and it was perfect.
33:00
[SPEAKER_03]: because I think this heel run in team 2000, I think they're gonna strap him up, man.
33:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I really fucking do.
33:09
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll tell you what, he's the only guy that got any notebook matches in the entire end one for me.
33:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I would know book on anything other than him.
33:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was a kind of rough end one.
33:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't have any motivation to talk about it.
33:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, in like, like,
33:24
[SPEAKER_06]: I was waiting for the shirt to show up on YouTube and Red Circle back, huh?
33:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know, man.
33:31
[SPEAKER_03]: It was, it wasn't a bad tournament.
33:33
[SPEAKER_03]: It was an easy watch, but it was, there was, there was three or four shows where I found myself in that normal like night 10 of the G1, where I'm like playing a game while watching.
33:44
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, it's a bad two when the guy that you want to watch is just done after the first night.
33:50
[SPEAKER_06]: Like halfway through the match.
33:53
[SPEAKER_06]: because you're like, at least I got the, you know, the rubble.
33:57
[SPEAKER_06]: What I was going to go to a couple of minutes ago when we were talking to Dome, but this kind of goes with Noah as well.
34:04
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you kind of bummed that we're not waiting to get eight, uh, and for Romo Takahashi?
34:12
[SPEAKER_06]: The biggest dream match at the last eight years at the Tokyo Dome on January 4th.
34:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Not as much as I used you because her home was not I don't think her homo couldn't Can go to that level that he used to at the dome and I don't think it's it did you not see for a bit of doing Yeah, with cow flutter.
34:36
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I made heat.
34:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he took and carry her home with a cow flutter can I love it.
34:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's only eight a smaller than her homo No, uh
34:49
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35:19
[SPEAKER_03]: But I will say it was dope watching that new Japan show.
35:23
[SPEAKER_03]: See, and it's like a on the show for me.
35:27
[SPEAKER_06]: And then takedown for Romo, it is like home court.
35:32
[SPEAKER_06]: He was controlling his home promotion.
35:34
[SPEAKER_03]: He ate to was cutting a promo like he wanted a job.
35:37
[SPEAKER_03]: He had so much heat and he's just, why not?
35:40
[SPEAKER_06]: They need a, they need a disaster.
35:42
[SPEAKER_06]: He's, he's done all he could do in Noah.
35:45
[SPEAKER_06]: He's, he's done all he could do in Noah.
35:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a hell, yeah, you're right, like just bring them in.
35:52
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36:16
[SPEAKER_06]: uh... shout out Kelly Clarkson for crafting that masterpiece no big life pure excitement of twenty new Japan's kind of been stale of course we had big news you know kind of you know in the the early springtime uh... this year as i'm sure we'll be a part of your list there
36:34
[SPEAKER_06]: uh... zaxaber one in a title or two uh... have some pretty good you know kind of matches there but kind of at a thought worth you know as sure to umanol you know made events to talk you don't those really move anything you know lose the match uh... you know and then you know we have zaxibers junior and ricochet the following night at the dome fantastic match but you know nothing there for umanol house of torture you read the retis as we kind of talked about uh... last week
37:04
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, but we had your game kids, your you to suit you to suit you to suit you to suit you.
37:09
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, they was finally in a way, you know, we're 2024.
37:11
[SPEAKER_06]: He kind of had his finally, finally, a breakout year where it was respectable match, you know, kind of throughout that whole year.
37:19
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, but it just, you know, didn't seem it was there.
37:23
[SPEAKER_06]: All Japan kind of stale, you know, kind of picked up over the last couple of months with a cancer meahara,
37:30
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, again, I wouldn't need the triple crown, correct, Ryan.
37:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
37:32
[SPEAKER_03]: He beat, uh, he beat us, I told.
37:35
[SPEAKER_06]: On that last strike.
37:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Awesome.
37:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Dragon gate.
37:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Awesome.
37:39
[SPEAKER_06]: Dr Dragon gate kind of been in and out, you know, kind of from myself this year, but, you know, kind of watched, uh, some of the big shows, uh, did a live, of course, being a fantastic one, uh, of this year, uh,
37:55
[SPEAKER_06]: The rookie joy, you know, not really doing much because Yamato was your champion majority of the year here until Dude's watch Kobe world, right?
38:08
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not that, you know, Yamato had nothing to do with it, but Yeah, shoot.
38:15
[SPEAKER_06]: Skywalker, you know, kind of winning that and then, you know, kind of pulling it.
38:20
[SPEAKER_06]: A Noah, if you will, where Osawa was your champion, the rebel for, you know, just and selling houses.
38:30
[SPEAKER_06]: He was moved, no one at a time, besides Stardom, which I'm sure, again, is probably a part of your list, was probably what the top selling pure old promotion.
38:40
[SPEAKER_06]: That's twenty twenty five so far.
38:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, like consistently, if consistency started and no, I think were the two biggest ones.
38:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Start them for sure.
38:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, New Japan's always going to be your top draw because they run the bigger venues.
38:54
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, you had your dome and stuff.
38:55
[SPEAKER_03]: But I, yeah, start them like on a consistency basis.
38:59
[SPEAKER_03]: This is, I don't think they've ever had a more profitable year and it's not even over yet.
39:03
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is actually last
39:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And who taught me how to shoot an angiulia, and Tam who retired?
39:14
[SPEAKER_06]: I think she retired.
39:19
[SPEAKER_06]: But no, I think with the big presence of Taysia Zawa is... I don't know, it's just something magical where every... What did they have like four title defenses?
39:36
[SPEAKER_06]: five, I think four, but if he was just a guy that you'd watch him wrestle, but it was more of the censoring and he just kind of took fur over by storm because he was a guy that started a group with the bullet club killer guy, right?
39:57
[SPEAKER_06]: That whole, you know, you know,
40:03
[SPEAKER_06]: And then like they just kept adding and adding to their group.
40:06
[SPEAKER_06]: It was like NWO 2003, where it just kept adding like a Virgil sun and you're like, what is happening here?
40:15
[SPEAKER_06]: And then all of a sudden, you know, he's getting hurt and getting knocked out.
40:19
[SPEAKER_06]: And then Kent is winning championships.
40:22
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry, Kenos winning championships.
40:25
[SPEAKER_06]: And then Kent who they've been teeming up for a past couple of months, you know, becoming the best friend of me that that Noah can show.
40:34
[SPEAKER_06]: And then, pencil wins the championship just the day after.
40:39
[SPEAKER_06]: And he's looking pretty damn good.
40:43
[SPEAKER_06]: I know you're saying the green ring and no one that went away.
40:47
[SPEAKER_06]: I remember that episode when we recorded that when that news broke.
40:50
[SPEAKER_06]: And that was a very emotional time for you.
40:53
[SPEAKER_06]: And pencil, you know, having to head deal with Tommy, you know, decent essentially when he was at NXT.
41:00
[SPEAKER_06]: And that news Japan where
41:02
[SPEAKER_06]: The first couple of years with New Japan, I was like, all right, he's, you know, old man Kentson now, it's fine, he's anger, he's bitter, goes back to Noah and then like something clicked within the end of 2024 into like this whole year and like everyone is saying, old Kenton is back, old Kenton is back.
41:22
[SPEAKER_06]: So that's got to be a little bit of hope for you, right, with kind of the old school of Noah.
41:31
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's still those matches where, like,
41:34
[SPEAKER_03]: like the marifuji match.
41:36
[SPEAKER_03]: We kept you here for like a week or a week or a week or a go.
41:39
[SPEAKER_03]: We kept trying to give him the g- and the go to sleep and marifuji couldn't get up.
41:43
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was sloppy.
41:44
[SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time, Kent's just shaking his head and nope.
41:47
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not- this is an ending until I need his ass.
41:51
[SPEAKER_03]: And on the third time, he killed him kind of with it.
41:53
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know what?
41:53
[SPEAKER_03]: He just kept doing it.
41:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's- I'm not done until I finish her to you, Kent.
41:58
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's- I love it.
41:59
[SPEAKER_03]: It's grumpy grandpa Kentos coming back to get everyone off his lawn.
42:04
[SPEAKER_03]: and that's how kind to should be.
42:05
[SPEAKER_03]: You shouldn't be happy and smiley in shit.
42:08
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
42:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
42:12
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think I think you built up kid.
42:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, right now Team 2000 only has three active wrestlers.
42:19
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that's it.
42:20
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, so they went from like 12 to 3, huh?
42:22
[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't even had that many.
42:24
[SPEAKER_03]: So it was Yoshitatsu and Jack Morris and Daga started it.
42:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Ozawa came in and then almost came in and then endo came in, but almost endo, Daga and Jack Morris are all gone.
42:40
[SPEAKER_06]: So currently they didn't like Shador come in and like she got
42:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you Takamoto.
42:47
[SPEAKER_03]: You got Yoshitatsu who doesn't wrestle, you got Ozawa who's injured, a lot of son who's in progress on excursion, Tadesuke who sucks, you got Sugara Kita Mia and the null who I don't think even tours anymore over there.
43:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
43:03
[SPEAKER_03]: So like this is I think I think they need to
43:10
[SPEAKER_03]: It's hard because I feel like a water son should be the big feud for Osawa, but if you turn Osawa face, you could have key to be a win the title.
43:17
[SPEAKER_03]: When you bring back a water son, he can be like the second in command.
43:22
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so now you got Tata's case to gear a key to Mia and a water son, feuding with Osawa, then you could grab maybe one of the young guys and bring them in and then grab a vet and now you're back to six people and then you can, you have enough for a faction.
43:37
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's not like Don Calis who's got 10 people I think right now, which by the way, I know there's a lot of people in that Calis family, but holy shit does he have a talented group of wrestlers that it's in his bag.
43:49
[SPEAKER_06]: But they're all jobbers like except three of them.
43:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Rocky's a jobber.
43:55
[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, I think Lance Archer could win at any match at any point.
44:00
[SPEAKER_03]: They've proven that.
44:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Josh Alexander.
44:01
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, but I'm saying like, but they don't win.
44:04
[SPEAKER_06]: There's still like treated as like sometime.
44:06
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, O'Cottom obviously wins to catch her to hit her miss, but you've got to have.
44:11
[SPEAKER_06]: Watch her obviously winning lately.
44:13
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, I'm trying to be a jabber.
44:17
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, I'm trying back.
44:22
[SPEAKER_06]: The frickin' Jeff Jarrett of the 2020, that's the word again.
44:25
[SPEAKER_03]: The Heenan family and stuff, those guys were all jobbers until they needed to heat somebody up because they were believable that they could win matches.
44:32
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying about that.
44:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, that's it.
44:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
44:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, they take losses, but it doesn't hurt any of them.
44:39
[SPEAKER_03]: So like when you needed to get Josh Alexander heated up for that hangman match, they gave him like four weeks in a row of winning and everybody believed it.
44:48
[SPEAKER_03]: like that's why like I would have never believed Virgil and Virgil's kid as you said would would win enough matches to get a title shot or I wouldn't believe Stevie Ray is going to get a title shot or you know Brian Adams but I'm I damn sure if you want to heat up Lance Archer I would believe that any minute Brian Adams
45:07
[SPEAKER_06]: in his prime should have been an intercontinental chain for a long what he was the long rush quote on crush and he had the blind uh... so we're gonna blow them all it's uh... as we say to start on which you'll probably have to us along with a little bit more the fax here say uh... comatonie uh... my you who uh...
45:31
[SPEAKER_06]: has literally just taken certain by storm.
45:33
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, I'm not gonna, of course, having a huge career versus career match earlier this year, but kind of taking over the interwebs over the last week or so, uh, free on YouTube.
45:45
[SPEAKER_06]: I would check it out, guys.
45:46
[SPEAKER_06]: I said, uh, comment on me and assume me and title versus title, uh, red belt versus the huge pen trunk women's title, which I forgot was the things.
45:56
[SPEAKER_06]: So, um,
45:58
[SPEAKER_06]: Fantastic match.
45:59
[SPEAKER_06]: Check it out.
46:00
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, this is you could see why the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the
46:23
[SPEAKER_06]: uh... i don't know like my view of a tiny the biggest person rossie is that rossie under taker uh... kind of coming through and like big stars but like no traction why is that oh yeah say i'm a tiny as you stated on the phone the worst times my you hold on i'm i'm i'm the new ways this company and she's only been wrestling for six years
46:53
[SPEAKER_03]: think about that.
46:54
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Chad.
46:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, just think of when she was a baby face and she couldn't be to Tommy.
47:01
[SPEAKER_03]: And I just, I kept saying, man, she's going to be the ace one day, because she did just something about her.
47:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they turned her heel and it was the best thing they ever did.
47:12
[SPEAKER_06]: It was the Azawa fact.
47:13
[SPEAKER_06]: It's essentially the the Ying and the Ying of of wrestling in Japan
47:23
[SPEAKER_06]: with kind of that same uh... athleticism the youth but also uh... just the excitement in the ring and and the character changes you stated it wasn't a plucky baby face anymore something run the retos should definitely be taking notes on off from these two because he definitely has not learned anything even though he's kind of started that gimmick if you will but but no it's it's just been you know kind of on the watch
47:51
[SPEAKER_06]: These two take off and hopefully injuries won't bar Osawa into anything, especially with him showing up backstage at a dragon gauge show, which shoots the guy walker to catch a sticker, cigar in mouth.
48:07
[SPEAKER_06]: What year number five, sir?
48:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Or number six.
48:09
[SPEAKER_03]: No, let me, okay, hold on, let me scroll because I haven't done one through five yet my number six by the way, let me say this to this is why startups on another level right now the last night of the grand pre
48:39
[SPEAKER_03]: So like they were plotting this shit in the turn like they're they're booking is just on another level right now But oh my number.
48:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Good up.
48:47
[SPEAKER_03]: That's thing in my list.
48:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I was that at the this year We had talked about who's you know who's the top 10 wrestlers of the last decade and you know it was If anybody didn't say alcada's number one you're mental you know there's nobody that was even Kenny isn't better than alcada in
49:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, sir, oh, look, I put a four or five, but 2011 to that 2021, when O'Connor won the title February of 2012, that dude never looked back.
49:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Had probably the best year of wrestling, I've seen since it may be flare in 89 in that 2017 run.
49:27
[SPEAKER_03]: But I always said there's a talk about talk about a Becky Hogan.
49:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, but at least he doesn't suck.
49:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but there was always a two A and a two B for me and I didn't care how you wanted to rank them, but it was always Sina and Tanaashi Sina carried the E for a decade if it wasn't for Tanaashi, there would never there wouldn't be Ocada Both of those guys are tired and this is this is their call in a quits Sina in December 13th or whatever day and then Tanaashi at the dome on the fourth
49:58
[SPEAKER_03]: So, it's interesting too because Tana Hashie has had a really enjoyable year for me where yes, his matches haven't been up to par, but they're giving him, he's, he just wrestled Watel one on one in a random, on a road to show.
50:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he's wrestling everybody.
50:16
[SPEAKER_03]: He did the G1.
50:18
[SPEAKER_03]: We saw him and Takeshita in Chicago.
50:22
[SPEAKER_03]: He worked for Bidden Dorley.
50:23
[SPEAKER_03]: He's doing all this stuff and he's making
50:28
[SPEAKER_06]: And then see it's gonna show up at Noah this week.
50:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, he's gonna wrestle uh Kaito Kiemia He's she but is any team enough with him?
50:36
[SPEAKER_03]: No, they're rest.
50:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm talking about it.
50:38
[SPEAKER_03]: They're the big show The the key to me.
50:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they're doing a one on one on that show, too Oh, nice.
50:45
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's getting that one on, but the other they're gonna have that tag match, too, but You look at Tanahashi's retirement ear and then you look at Senas and it's like
50:55
[SPEAKER_03]: it's such a weird difference in what they're doing and so I think I think I really screwed over by triple H not booking meteorite.
51:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's healed by Travis Scott.
51:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Well I mean that was booked by triple H so I mean triple H was in charge after elimination chamber and everything and did nothing about it.
51:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Never talked about it.
51:23
[SPEAKER_03]: he has a bad heel run that that involved truth which did nothing and now they kind of a job back yeah yeah and and but then that's fine but that is nothing to do with his retirement you know I'm saying but you know and then now it seems like to finally the back contract the match with Cody was fun and now he's a baby face which he is if you're good in this is I think why they never
51:55
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it just threw them off guard where it just didn't click and this is my number three is the retirement of the 2025 and you know my crush crushers like well how did they compare?
52:08
[SPEAKER_06]: You would think if we would have dissected all of tonas and senas it would have been reversed.
52:16
[SPEAKER_06]: You would have thought Sina would have had more of the Tana Hashi run, but you got to remember limited dates to also hurt.
52:23
[SPEAKER_06]: And this guy can't wrestle every date that he's on, meaning John Sina as Tana Hashi has been doing.
52:29
[SPEAKER_06]: Tana Hashi's definitely having a lot more fun.
52:31
[SPEAKER_06]: Fuck, we just saw that man dive off a cage.
52:37
[SPEAKER_06]: But Sina, I would say, yeah, like you said now, it's finally clicking.
52:43
[SPEAKER_06]: But I think since the beginning, since that January 6th, we're on Netflix, they view it's more of the, oh shit, this is over, this is it, he just got did really wrong.
52:56
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if there's still beef with triple age or white, but the creative, creative totally let him down.
53:04
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a bad retirement.
53:06
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, for the guy that saved the company, that was,
53:10
[SPEAKER_06]: That was the Tata Kata of the WWE, well, what's credit as the logo's Stephanie McMahon, a saved this company by a hearing John Cena freestyle and catering.
53:22
[SPEAKER_06]: Hence why she's going to the Hall of Fame in 2026.
53:24
[SPEAKER_03]: So, so the thing with that is like, I feel for Cena.
53:37
[SPEAKER_06]: but he's also out of the door where he's been a successful actor over the last ten years in strain wreck really and and he's been fantastic i think with the alley with spot light he's good on you know your your guest spots here and there uh your your internet shorts if you will and yeah he just got did wrong but i think they're gonna try to write some of that
54:03
[SPEAKER_06]: with the AJ Styles match coming up next weekend, I think that one will be, hopefully these guys again, AJ Styles was that for TNA.
54:14
[SPEAKER_06]: He was that Tana Hashie, that Ocada, you know, kind of that split of saving New Japan, if you will, kind of kept TNA going, but just,
54:24
[SPEAKER_06]: He had the balls, and sadly was just this respective were those other companies of New Japan and WWE did not want their cash cow to be let down in any capacity and Dixie Carter did not give a fuck.
54:37
[SPEAKER_06]: And who knows what DNA would have been if they were to kept up the styles, you know, machine, but thankfully he got out and kind of changed of course wrestling in those early, early to mid 2010s there.
54:48
[SPEAKER_06]: So are we gonna get rural rumble?
54:50
[SPEAKER_06]: Are we gonna get summer's plan?
54:53
[SPEAKER_06]: I think, you know, I know you should, I didn't need to be re-re-iron, but this got to make you feel a little bit of something, especially coming up ending soon with his retirement tour.
55:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, I just, I think it's almost frustrating that they, how bad they did him.
55:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I, I, I, I, I love the styles match because those matches were so fun, but, you know, that was like eight years ago, they, they, they're not going to be able to do that again.
55:24
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm just I don't I don't know.
55:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just I guess it's just like he's got what three matches left.
55:30
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
55:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and this is this is done it.
55:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're giving me no confidence other for the final two matches.
55:42
[SPEAKER_06]: After he kicked Cody in the balls at chamber and everyone says the greatest heel turn of all time know it was not.
55:54
[SPEAKER_03]: think it was we got to get we got to be done kicking due to the ball like who's not we're in a cup by now uh... and it the one thing to i think a lot of people got don't don't attest to when they bring that up because i i hear that as much as you do is just because it might have been a great segment doesn't mean it's a good angle you have to pay off your segment and they did not pay off i mean i will never forget that first promo i i walked along what is going on here
56:24
[SPEAKER_06]: the second week after the week after that the exact same promo.
56:31
[SPEAKER_06]: The only thing they did cool was to know music, the black titan triner of the hell they called now.
56:37
[SPEAKER_06]: and then when they did the countdown to the days because that made it real.
56:41
[SPEAKER_06]: That was that was heelish if you will.
56:45
[SPEAKER_06]: That was the only thing that was heelish about that whole run and then for the week a day before two days before there's some of this land manager Cody Rhodes for the championship.
56:55
[SPEAKER_06]: He gets on everything.
56:57
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought it was a joke Ryan when I read it on Saturday.
57:00
[SPEAKER_06]: I've watched SmackDown since you may be watching eight months ago and guess what I didn't
57:07
[SPEAKER_06]: and i thought that was a fucking joke when i read that and i was like he just shit on the whole last four or five months which seemed like a longer stretch of time sadly and he was an even on all those shows but it's still seem far longer and it was just like all right that a great match but i'm just tired of nineteen pickouts and a match sorry edge or sorry atom copeland but
57:36
[SPEAKER_06]: they do that Logan Paul.
57:38
[SPEAKER_06]: I get it.
57:39
[SPEAKER_06]: I get why they did it.
57:42
[SPEAKER_06]: He got seeing punk to go to Saudi Arabia.
57:45
[SPEAKER_06]: That was interesting.
57:46
[SPEAKER_06]: Was not the match that we wanted.
57:48
[SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, my temperature for the ages, thousand matches, you know, at a simmer.
57:54
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I'll just be happy.
57:56
[SPEAKER_06]: I'll be in my nostalgic, you know, last year.
58:00
[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, it's just,
58:05
[SPEAKER_06]: What do you do besides I think have a tribute show on that show in DC on December 13 or like what's his last match, who's his last match?
58:16
[SPEAKER_06]: Should it even be a last match or should it just be a two hour celebration?
58:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't like, so there's people who think that Ed just taking this time away because he's going to go wrestle scene.
58:29
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, no, he's doing a movie.
58:32
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't want that.
58:32
[SPEAKER_06]: Who wants that?
58:35
[SPEAKER_06]: It was just a new resolution revolution that was the only thing that was good out of their fear.
58:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I have no idea who he wrestles for these last matches like, you know, I don't know me.
58:48
[SPEAKER_06]: Who does he put over?
58:49
[SPEAKER_06]: Who does he put over?
58:50
[SPEAKER_06]: Has he dominated?
58:51
[SPEAKER_06]: The stereo?
58:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Why not?
58:54
[SPEAKER_03]: If you want Brown to wrestle Brock at Maniang, he needs to start getting wins.
59:01
[SPEAKER_03]: and that's a guy to take out you can't be 50-50 this guy if you're gonna try to help or do you or do you do owe befemming I don't hate that because then it's you're trying to build a new person like I don't hate that at all I don't know well we got we got time to discuss it let's let's go yeah yeah let's keep going
59:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so one thing that I think these kind of tie together, I have three things that kind of tie together in a way, but I thought they were all important and, and I'm doing this in the outside of the ring aspect of trying to to develop the landscape and how different things are nowadays.
59:45
[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that ESPN now has their paper views blows my mind in the grand scheme of things.
59:53
[SPEAKER_03]: also because this company now has went from we have our own network we have our own distribution we do everything on our own till to now they're just selling it off to other companies and saying all right you guys do all the work now and I think that is reflecting on the business and the product yeah you know the Netflix huge fantastic while I can't believe Netflix is showing this but ever since these things have started happening
1:00:19
[SPEAKER_03]: the effort level has just dropped off on these shows and I think the thing that is, I don't think this will ever fully happen.
1:00:31
[SPEAKER_03]: But boy, do I have a feeling that 2026 might be a little weird for this company in a bad way?
1:00:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Because there's always the occasional people you see, but I
1:00:47
[SPEAKER_03]: that people are cracking jokes like, hey, it was going to take my family to WrestleMania, but decided I wanted to buy a house for us to live it instead.
1:00:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Or, hey, it was going to go to Saturday night's main event, but I needed to buy a new car because mine died.
1:01:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm seeing, like, there are the people are not happy about this, this ticket price increase that they're doing to do what you see does.
1:01:18
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because you guys, he's not a family.
1:01:20
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
1:01:21
[SPEAKER_06]: No, he's a type of event.
1:01:23
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not late.
1:01:24
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:01:26
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's funny.
1:01:26
[SPEAKER_06]: In my number four, T.K.
1:01:29
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, pricing out families in the hardcore fans.
1:01:31
[SPEAKER_06]: How long?
1:01:32
[SPEAKER_06]: How long will this last?
1:01:33
[SPEAKER_06]: And you're right.
1:01:35
[SPEAKER_06]: I've been saying since last year, since the whole Cody finished the story thing.
1:01:39
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, OK, you know, the tennis is going good.
1:01:42
[SPEAKER_06]: Still the son of 13, 15,000 seats.
1:01:46
[SPEAKER_06]: put the bubbles going to burst and then twenty twenty five game bubble block.
1:01:50
[SPEAKER_06]: You thought it would be a big thing with seen as retirement to a courier's champion and they do the whole scene of heel turn and then ticket sales have been drastically down.
1:01:58
[SPEAKER_06]: Cody you know towards the end of his run tickets were kind of going down but nothing too crazy.
1:02:03
[SPEAKER_06]: And I said you know the last five months I said watch guys twenty twenty six the bubble will burst.
1:02:09
[SPEAKER_06]: And that was before T.C.O.
1:02:12
[SPEAKER_06]: came out and said we're going to you know outcharge families
1:02:16
[SPEAKER_06]: And we were seeing 12,000 dollar tickets.
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, this bulb was going to burst because their business model is not for what wrestling fans truly are.
1:02:26
[SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, it's your family's, it's your, you know, your guy groups of three, four, you're not going to want to spend two.
1:02:32
[SPEAKER_06]: We spent $300 for us to go to Roll last year.
1:02:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we paid the same amount together to go to all in.
1:02:40
[SPEAKER_06]: All in, yeah.
1:02:42
[SPEAKER_06]: So the first of a period show.
1:02:46
[SPEAKER_06]: by onions.
1:02:48
[SPEAKER_06]: But like I don't think I'll ever go unless someone gives me a ticket or we get in somehow for free or we're press or whatever.
1:02:54
[SPEAKER_06]: They only do press conferences anymore is I'll probably never go to a WWE event ever again unless it's like a legit
1:03:02
[SPEAKER_06]: must go or I'll explode type of thing, but nothing really reels me in anymore.
1:03:08
[SPEAKER_06]: I've seen Sam punk in every facet.
1:03:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Here, here's not such a tough, but this is the exact problem.
1:03:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to forget this thought.
1:03:14
[SPEAKER_03]: The reason that that's that way is the same thing with me.
1:03:18
[SPEAKER_03]: There's nobody on that roster that I give a fuck to pay to see anymore.
1:03:24
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's not their fault, it's not Walter's fault, you know, as an example, it's the company gives you no reason to care anymore about any of these people because it's just ran like a television show now.
1:03:37
[SPEAKER_03]: This is not a book-to-well business.
1:03:40
[SPEAKER_03]: This is, we're going to do pump, circumstance, music, look it on, look it on, uh, fucking, what's the last show that just happened that I can't remember the name of it.
1:03:49
[SPEAKER_03]: The last,
1:03:49
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a loser.
1:03:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, thank you.
1:03:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Recipes a loser.
1:03:52
[SPEAKER_03]: That crowd was jacked for the Usos and then the match started and you could hear people farting it was so quiet.
1:04:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
1:04:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, when they did that goofy table spot with AJ Lee and Becky and Seth and punk, I'll let they jump for one table the other and then it didn't break, but it just like slowly collapsed and they just felt like Jenga pieces and just laid there.
1:04:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god, did that really happen?
1:04:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you didn't see that.
1:04:50
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh god, no.
1:04:52
[SPEAKER_06]: When you told me it was more than 20 minutes, I was like, I'm good.
1:04:56
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm a punk guy, I was like, yeah.
1:04:59
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you could see these two guys in the crowd and I saw it.
1:05:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't think anybody else was going to notice it.
1:05:05
[SPEAKER_03]: But, one of them brought it up literally as you could see the two guys in the back kind of go.
1:05:12
[SPEAKER_03]: They take a deep breath and they're like, well, that's socked and they're like, well, we got to do it right and they're like, holy shit Holy shit and then they just stop saying it, but it's like their program to just start chanting when anything happens even though it sucks The this company is ruining the wrestling fun of it
1:05:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And if I was what, if this was, if this was, you know, we do drama on T and T or whatever, and it's a TV show.
1:05:41
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, cool, the backstage interactions I understand.
1:05:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I can follow along, but I'm trying to watch a per-ressing show and you're not giving it to me.
1:05:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Why do I want to watch your show?
1:05:50
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:05:53
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm trying to do it with per-leafling show here.
1:05:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Not like I said, I didn't, I don't want to cut, I didn't cut you off, but I think if I'm going to lose this point and it's, it's, it's literally why it's so hard.
1:06:06
[SPEAKER_03]: When we went to that raw, it was like, yeah, how man that we're going to Walter Baller, you know, punk filies back.
1:06:12
[SPEAKER_03]: That'll be fun, you know, whatever, you know, I popped an edible, I was ready to go because you know, it makes me like wrestling more.
1:06:20
[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, I don't think we sat on our hands more than we've ever have.
1:06:25
[SPEAKER_03]: and all we did was get yelled at by the lady next to us.
1:06:27
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so I'll tell you, it was more that dummy lady.
1:06:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, he was just like I said, he won't be able to do that.
1:06:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, this isn't for me anymore, I think, man.
1:06:36
[SPEAKER_03]: This is so different.
1:06:37
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:06:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Everything about that show was different.
1:06:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, gosh.
1:06:44
[SPEAKER_06]: It's, well, yeah, when, you know, just four matches, I think we got that old show three matches, but.
1:06:51
[SPEAKER_06]: I used to be able to walk up to a raw like 10 minutes before, get like a nice 4-seat 100 bucks or whatever, and I was fine.
1:06:58
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like perfect.
1:06:58
[SPEAKER_06]: No taxes, no fees, any of that bullshit, you know, was nice, and then it just changed, but you can go to EW show paid 120 bucks and sit on the floor and get five hours of wrestling and as we'll get into here, I'm sure, in a bit, but yeah, they're just the model, but they don't care.
1:07:17
[SPEAKER_06]: They have the bag, Disney owns.
1:07:20
[SPEAKER_06]: the P.O.
1:07:20
[SPEAKER_06]: Leaves now, which is crazy.
1:07:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's, it's true, man, it's, it's so like, I just, what are you going to do, you know, and you know what, as I said before, not go anymore.
1:07:34
[SPEAKER_06]: That's, that's what we want to do.
1:07:36
[SPEAKER_03]: And if people are liking wrestling and they're having fun with it, good for them, that's fine.
1:07:40
[SPEAKER_06]: How can they afford it?
1:07:41
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the thing.
1:07:42
[SPEAKER_06]: How are they going to start?
1:07:45
[SPEAKER_06]: How are they going to start getting these people?
1:07:46
[SPEAKER_06]: They're like, it's like not even worth it.
1:07:49
[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, let's go to a derivative of you show a rod.
1:07:52
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like two, three tickets.
1:07:53
[SPEAKER_06]: At least these fall McCartney tickets.
1:07:55
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm looking at buying for like 500.
1:07:58
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like at least and I'm going to get three hours of a living legend.
1:08:01
[SPEAKER_06]: And then be like, I just saw the second to last living beetle.
1:08:07
[SPEAKER_03]: to form for fucking three hours and he's eighty five years old or you can spend three dollars out of ticket to see four American rendezvous out there at the same time instead of your eighty Tyler paid peat done in Ludwig, Kaiser, you're getting us to pay you're in that mad
1:08:24
[SPEAKER_06]: Give me that mess, but like, I don't know, this company, but like this company is just what we grew up with, but sometimes, you know, we're talking about nostalgia early with Sina and Styles, and even Sina and Punk this year, but it's just like, sometimes we just got to cut the cord and kind of move on and AWS their hearts, at least their paper views, you know, it's worth the money, whether you're going there, or ordering them online, you know, a
1:08:54
[SPEAKER_06]: So, I mean, it's such a night of day difference, but your tribalism that has been happening over the last since AWS conception has just been so stupid.
1:09:03
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like it's just enjoy wrestling.
1:09:05
[SPEAKER_06]: If you don't want to watch this, or watch that, then don't fucking watch it.
1:09:09
[SPEAKER_06]: I watch the YouTube clips for majority of it anyways.
1:09:12
[SPEAKER_06]: The Piero stuff I'll watch fully, because I know those matches will be consistent.
1:09:17
[SPEAKER_06]: My issue with US wrestling right now, and that's a lot of, you know, Piero 2 is it's so,
1:09:23
[SPEAKER_06]: beat by beat predictability where I'm like, okay, I can telegraph this without even watching it.
1:09:30
[SPEAKER_06]: And so, you know, and don't probably wrong, like, Mystico and then Jeff, you know, from Marina Mexico a few weeks back, or, you know, they say, I can't give it to Tommy and the, and the zoomy mats, so, or even your bandido to Keshitas from the Ring of Honor Show last month.
1:09:49
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, little gems like that, or even had to zero and and and bandito, but just doing little things like that, you know, those weren't the fans, but it just sucks that
1:10:02
[SPEAKER_06]: it's still the minority of the fans, but yet we're the most vocal, I don't know, it's the place political lines as you will.
1:10:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, don't be fans that that slander a W fans.
1:10:17
[SPEAKER_03]: They're just talking shit because they're trying to defend what they're just.
1:10:22
[SPEAKER_06]: We think we're smarter.
1:10:23
[SPEAKER_06]: even though it's just like, oh, look, flip, yay, you know what I'm saying?
1:10:27
[SPEAKER_03]: To be fair, we also appreciate good storytelling and not foreshad, and they, yeah.
1:10:33
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
1:10:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we don't need them to give us things 17 times in one show because they were goldfish.
1:10:39
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we're smart.
1:10:41
[SPEAKER_03]: People were talking about this weekly again.
1:10:44
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
1:10:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's why we get mad is because we want it to be good.
1:10:49
[SPEAKER_03]: The other side bitches because they're mad that their company's getting talk shit about and they think everything all sucks and they don't watch it But they just assume it sucks.
1:10:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're mad because we want WWE to be to be better I don't want to complain about it all the time.
1:11:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to enjoy it.
1:11:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to enjoy wrestling But when I get money, you know and look I've like I said I haven't watched Rawr SmackDown since summer time it's been two months This is the longest streak of my life
1:11:15
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't care anymore because they literally finally pushed me away to the point.
1:11:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I, it doesn't bother me that I'd miss it.
1:11:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Before I would have like anxiety that I'm not watching it just because I have to see everything.
1:11:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't care, I'm done.
1:11:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's, they've done nothing to make me want to retain it.
1:11:30
[SPEAKER_03]: And their management couldn't give a shit if I watched it anyway.
1:11:33
[SPEAKER_03]: So why do I care?
1:11:34
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they got the bag.
1:11:35
[SPEAKER_06]: They got the bag from so many sources.
1:11:37
[SPEAKER_06]: And a lot of those sources are unhappy.
1:11:39
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's what's, you know, reporting the last rages.
1:11:46
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know about ever, but just it's a very low.
1:11:48
[SPEAKER_06]: I still have to be interesting.
1:11:50
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know what SmackDown does in USA anymore.
1:11:52
[SPEAKER_06]: I know AWS consists of between just 600,000, if they're lucky, 700, sometimes.
1:12:01
[SPEAKER_06]: So like that whole framing, like I get it.
1:12:04
[SPEAKER_06]: I know we should talk about that, you know, all the time, the last couple of years.
1:12:07
[SPEAKER_06]: But you know, it's just as your other product, where we still have it, because who the fuck knows?
1:12:11
[SPEAKER_06]: how long we have it for, uh, especially with all the streaming rights, you know, kind of getting bought up by by Warner Brothers and, and as, as well as, uh, but the other thing Ryan is who would have thought the T.K.O.Bad if it's picked me in good, um, also Hocogan died.
1:12:25
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a crazy story, uh, and Vince McMahon also giving out busts of his head, um,
1:12:32
[SPEAKER_06]: Obviously handsome bust, but it could have been of anything else for his 80th birthday party and and he is re-insigned and people's student picture is out of no it's crazy But who would have thought we would have wanted to advance back out of them, maybe that's just to show to him on the rest of the loser intro He got the biggest pop of the video You got a pop of the Minneapolis when after those the self charges came out and he fucking jumped out this
1:13:01
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the steel sets like Peter Pan, jump it away in the night.
1:13:04
[SPEAKER_06]: So what's your second story, there's sir?
1:13:07
[SPEAKER_03]: So I have two more left since I've deleted or since we covered four of them.
1:13:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll go into this one.
1:13:13
[SPEAKER_03]: These are both kind of like sucky ones, but I think it's, I think they're important to add.
1:13:18
[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned Hulk Hogan passed away.
1:13:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Saboo.
1:13:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:13:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:13:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Mongo, steaming Michael.
1:13:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, okay.
1:13:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Guy that I I always enjoyed when he was in a hour.
1:13:31
[SPEAKER_03]: They call catch point.
1:13:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it was but Jaka who was with Chris Kristick and sitting he died of a heart attack
1:13:38
[SPEAKER_06]: It was recently, yeah.
1:13:39
[SPEAKER_03]: At 39 years old, he was trained by Harley race, sucks.
1:13:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Jack was really good, Osama D. Shimura, he was really old and sucks that he finally died, but he was the dude who always came with the robe and like the towel around his neck and the matches just were black trunks.
1:13:54
[SPEAKER_03]: He would be a lot of the algebra pad when we used to really watch it and like before COVID.
1:14:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Grand Hamada, who's a big reason why we even have Dragon Gate.
1:14:06
[SPEAKER_03]: also part of barely legal in that match with Thaitaka and all those dudes in that six man which no girl match.
1:14:12
[SPEAKER_03]: So Grand Hamata, very, very important.
1:14:15
[SPEAKER_03]: And I didn't really get to see him, but I just think it's kind of interesting.
1:14:18
[SPEAKER_03]: What are the first ever I need to be GP heavyweight champion Salman Hashinakov?
1:14:22
[SPEAKER_03]: from Russia, uh, who would be?
1:14:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Salman Ha, Hashimikov, uh, he was a Russian Olympic wrestler, I believe, but he was, on that.
1:14:31
[SPEAKER_03]: He, he, he wrestled from 89 to 94.
1:14:34
[SPEAKER_03]: He was trained by a nokey and they put the title on them.
1:14:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, oh, it was a short reign.
1:14:40
[SPEAKER_03]: He lasted like two, three months later, two months later to Ricky Joe.
1:14:44
[SPEAKER_03]: She, I think, um, so wasn't long, but it was a nokey branching out trying
1:14:51
[SPEAKER_03]: kind of guys so I just thought that was kind of cool to you know that to bring him up though too.
1:14:58
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the last one I have in this list and then I'll turn it back over to you before I go through my giant thing.
1:15:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Also we had the unfortunate judgment 2025 Chris Brooks,
1:15:17
[SPEAKER_03]: He's I guess he's in a rehab center now and he's kind of moving his feet a little bit But he truly may never rustle again.
1:15:23
[SPEAKER_03]: So that just that sucks because of Chris Brooks was the one who did it to him and then being partners So yeah, I just thought that was kind of important to with how big of a year Brooks was having, but yeah, just just some some of the Downs that I think got to get brought about just just for awareness for people Yeah, but hi, I'm Boosters back
1:15:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I and he's wrestling kaitoki and me up next month.
1:15:48
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I think I did hear that.
1:15:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I could watch zero this the new zero one stuff with this new I a boosa.
1:15:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the boosa's a kid, man.
1:15:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, when he was in WCW versus the world as Hannibal He's always plays him
1:16:07
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I don't know.
1:16:08
[SPEAKER_06]: That was him, right.
1:16:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was like, Oh, she's high boots.
1:16:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go.
1:16:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but I can't you.
1:16:15
[SPEAKER_03]: How many more do you have on your 2025 list?
1:16:19
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, just a few.
1:16:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's not those out.
1:16:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, my last one.
1:16:24
[SPEAKER_06]: So, uh, my thing as, as I said earlier, I am a AC on punk mark.
1:16:29
[SPEAKER_06]: Um,
1:16:38
[SPEAKER_06]: But the big thing, starting to year off, the big grudge match with Seth Rollins, which was supposed to be a media match, but they decided to have on the wrong, Netflix hype, then lost two Seth Rollins, everyone was like, oh, it's all over.
1:16:52
[SPEAKER_06]: Then he just had random matches with like, Pentan, LA Knight, and then, you know, this and that, and that he wins, and then he faces John Cena and, you know,
1:17:06
[SPEAKER_06]: and then the cool thing about it is he brings his wife back like no one thought a jalee would ever come back into the square circle uh... below the hold uh... is recited a whistle palooza happened was it for the best probably not but you know here we are he got his wife at the bag as well uh... but just some fun stuff i know you know the bracelet things of twenty twenty four was not your thing but uh... cia to him also win a a world championship
1:17:32
[SPEAKER_06]: this year by beating Goomther, thus then losing it, you know, just mere minutes later, to Seth Rollins, I thought was pretty, uh, pretty apropos, um, of his running away, you know, kind of some, uh, rituals, uh, of, uh,
1:17:49
[SPEAKER_06]: payback from Triple H and the WWE if you will for him leaving 11 years ago and what not so some good stuff some fun stuff there and yeah punk having a pretty damn good 2025 as a WWE fans perspective if you will so good for him get that back fill and yeah
1:18:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have to run with that.
1:18:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I still think that match on Netflix is really good.
1:18:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that January 6th, uh, one, yep.
1:18:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was really good.
1:18:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was good.
1:18:28
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know it was last year, but I also think that Helen sells really good too.
1:18:33
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:18:37
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that was this year too, huh, him and Drew?
1:18:39
[SPEAKER_03]: No, that was October last year, but just just kind of given
1:18:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh god, the inspiration our TNA take team champions, Cassie Lee and Jesse McCay or whatever.
1:18:51
[SPEAKER_06]: That means, uh, and then what is your your big diatrived or should I just go my last one?
1:18:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you might as well because mine's kind of just like a wrap up of everything that I think is kind of cool.
1:19:04
[SPEAKER_06]: got you got you all in twenty twenty five is the event of the year possibly and my bias probably uh... we're meeting around there yes we were uh... not only do we go to the new Japan show in Chicago we flew to Texas uh... almost did not make it the day of the show due to other crazier things that happened a day prior uh... to the show there but we made it to Dallas for a worth got our over got to the wonderful hotel
1:19:32
[SPEAKER_06]: uh... near an empty six five for some reason uh... and and the two stadiums one empty one full of wrestling fans and one really cool bar restaurant and a hotel that we stayed at with uh... a lot of the talent so that was pretty fun uh... but dude we got to see so many cool stuff dust and roads wrestling twice winning a uh... t and t champion chip uh... which was the best thing to do uh... before Kyle Fletcher
1:19:56
[SPEAKER_06]: to get that plus, it got fluttered that heat, who's also having a hell of a 20-25, but I'm sure we'll get to that pretty soon here.
1:20:05
[SPEAKER_06]: We got the NJF kind of winning the casino, gauntlets, what else do we see?
1:20:12
[SPEAKER_06]: We saw FTR and the Outrunners, and that fucking tagmaster rock, which a week or two weeks before had in Ryan's estimation, one of the best tags he matches he ever seen on collision.
1:20:25
[SPEAKER_06]: But the biggest thing that Dagmash is I'm sure Ryan was about to say, Swerv and Will Osprey taking out the young book.
1:20:32
[SPEAKER_06]: Seeing that live was an honor.
1:20:36
[SPEAKER_06]: Seeing it live with no one really around me except you.
1:20:39
[SPEAKER_06]: And Isaiah and then like space with days.
1:20:43
[SPEAKER_06]: And we had excellent floor seats.
1:20:46
[SPEAKER_06]: So many floor seats, private entrances, great food.
1:20:50
[SPEAKER_06]: T.S.
1:20:51
[SPEAKER_06]: I think I spent no joke, $200 in food throughout the day because we were there for eight hours.
1:20:55
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, eight hours.
1:20:57
[SPEAKER_06]: But it was fucking worth it.
1:21:00
[SPEAKER_06]: Hertz and a kid, you know, kind of keeping the heat at that time, retaining the heat to be championships in a three way.
1:21:06
[SPEAKER_06]: But we finally got the C-Spube on my Bailey in person, which was fucking rad.
1:21:11
[SPEAKER_06]: Tony Storm Mercedes Amone, yes, we saw that mass-wide.
1:21:14
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, Kada, Kenny Omega, we stated years ago, Ryan.
1:21:17
[SPEAKER_06]: if they would ever touch in America that we would go and buy golly we kept up to their promise even though I said whenever seen a plump with wrestle uh... but sorry no reouts using for me and the course hangman finally finishing up his story the main character some say of all the wrestling defeating jamaxley uh... marina shafir by submission a change broke
1:21:42
[SPEAKER_06]: I'll start at the ring there in a Texas stuff match made events.
1:21:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Everybody left to uh, happy 30,000.
1:21:48
[SPEAKER_06]: I believe was the number you could definitely see it.
1:21:51
[SPEAKER_06]: It was a lot of fun.
1:21:52
[SPEAKER_06]: We saw Darby Allen kind of do the whole Hello, and I think it down now This problem Because I never looked up.
1:22:03
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, he's just hanging there.
1:22:05
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God.
1:22:06
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's not have another, you know, incident, but He stole it was brought down
1:22:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm like freaking I'm thinking about like a few of lean back and just dangled from his legs.
1:22:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I would have faded out of shit my pants and faded the middle of the show.
1:22:21
[SPEAKER_06]: We saw a beardless reday view of juice Robinson also that night, which was fun, but yeah, you know, a derivative of each kind of program by having spaghetti retirements, a failed one of Bill Goldberg seems to be the theme for that company and retirement of 2025.
1:22:40
[SPEAKER_06]: I remember after all in, I went back to the hotel to change because it was literally a block away and I was like, oh, I can catch the end of the Goldberg match and I swear to God ran.
1:22:51
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought Goldberg beat Gunther because as I turned it on, Goldberg was in the ring.
1:22:56
[SPEAKER_06]: It was a whole bunch of WCW people, not Glacier unfortunately, but I was like, holy shitty one, as I'm changing and then all of a sudden I go on the dirt and they're like, Goldberg loses cuts because they literally cut off as I saw it.
1:23:10
[SPEAKER_06]: And then, uh, yeah, thank you, Joey, Joey, don't down to him, it was tough and so yeah, it was just such a whirlwind of a trip, especially the next day, walking the Hanai Heat in Dallas while on a wonderful edible and nothing else is going to make the plane because I was so stoned
1:23:41
[SPEAKER_06]: But thanks to their wonderful Buffalo Wild Wings waitress.
1:23:44
[SPEAKER_06]: She helped us with lots of water of food and a wonderful banser Bless the lady at the not the condoms store.
1:23:51
[SPEAKER_06]: Where was that condoms shop?
1:23:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, condoms own Condoms, uh, but the wonderful lady who who led me to their wonderful edible and
1:24:03
[SPEAKER_06]: panicking for six hours while you break to a crisp in the uh... i tried to sleep it off which only enhanced it but we made it home we might be going to world then ryan
1:24:16
[SPEAKER_06]: We want to all in, that was tight.
1:24:17
[SPEAKER_06]: Once or the first all in, the first American all in, Ryan, what are you all in for your top story thus far in 2025?
1:24:22
[SPEAKER_03]: So, not really per se, a top story, but I just kind of went through and just kind of looked at all like the big, the big, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
1:24:35
[SPEAKER_03]: changes for the year so I kind of broke them down by month and I don't have everything on there maybe have you know four to what it which says the most August maybe two four six eight four to ten tops in each one of these but just kind of to refresh the year is like like I'm kind of what everything was that we saw throughout the year.
1:24:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, in January, are you gonna do it?
1:24:59
[SPEAKER_06]: Wait, time are you gonna do it like Billy Joel's.
1:25:02
[SPEAKER_06]: We didn't start the fire.
1:25:03
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I can't do that shit.
1:25:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not that talented.
1:25:06
[SPEAKER_06]: Danny, where are you?
1:25:07
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, Bob, I'll see you in a phone.
1:25:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Bob, you do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do
1:25:25
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it was tight.
1:25:27
[SPEAKER_03]: So January, at the end of the new year, Ozzawa Bikai took here Mia for the title.
1:25:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Mayor Gold first dream, Utami Hayashi Shidobit, Sari, got her the title, which was really nice.
1:25:39
[SPEAKER_03]: We saw the Zack Saber beating Ubono at Russell Kingdom getting that big win, beats Ricochet the next night.
1:25:46
[SPEAKER_03]: At King of Coliseum in MW, Kojima's 343 day title rain ended the mat, Riddle.
1:25:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Joe Henry beat Dolph Ziggler for the title of Genesis and a beat man's Werner at the people versus G.C.W.
1:26:00
[SPEAKER_03]: In February we saw, as you just mentioned, J.U.
1:26:03
[SPEAKER_03]: so on the Royal Rumble.
1:26:06
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... defy is eight renverses show wiki start to be kind to for the title uh... hooky go to be exact saver which i did the peace on it the new beginning and then we saw twenty storm uh... defeat marimade and uh... grand slam australia to win that title back so fun stuff we were in the year uh... to close out we got puppet and we got puppets
1:26:29
[SPEAKER_03]: In March, we had that Chris Brooks, Takenashi Mads, that I mentioned.
1:26:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Fiddly won the New Japan Cup against Umino at NXT Roadblock, Stephanie Vicarbite, Julie and a winner take all title and another winner take all, we saw Ozawa beat Manabu Soya for the National title at the Memorial Voyage in Yokohama.
1:26:50
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... we didn't move on april man june we had uh... not as much we had at spring break through the obstacle to the death writers to win the trio's at the west coast pro vegas vacation manners and time is shired if he did starboy charlie and tightest Alexander for the tag titles uh... we saw an increase when about a royal to win the vacant defy title that rakey starts vacated
1:27:11
[SPEAKER_03]: John Cena, as we mentioned, B. Cody Rhodes, Russell Mania, and then we saw Syah Kamatani beat in a career title match.
1:27:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Tam Nakano at start of all star grand creed them.
1:27:21
[SPEAKER_03]: In May, we had Ozumi beating Mercedes Monet at resurgence for the IVGP women's title, and then at battleground, we had trick Williams beating Jill Henry.
1:27:32
[SPEAKER_03]: We move into June, another small month, the German Wrestling Federation Rising Heat Axel T-Shirt for those of you who don't remember him.
1:27:39
[SPEAKER_03]: He was with Walter and Ludwig Kaiser and Rincomp and WWE.
1:27:45
[SPEAKER_03]: He won their title beating Metahann and Erkan Salkani at House of Glorys.
1:27:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Mike Santana presents Puerto Rican weekend.
1:27:53
[SPEAKER_03]: We saw Charles Mates in that nutcase guy from GCW.
1:28:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh wow.
1:28:02
[SPEAKER_03]: The start-up conversion we had sorry beating Ciori, which was an amazing match.
1:28:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And then at TTT's King of Kings, Kazuson had good she took the title from Chris Brooks.
1:28:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Last three months that we've had in July, as we mentioned all in, Hangman beat Moxley at Evolution, Naomi won the title from EO and Rear Ripley.
1:28:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Kobe World Shun Skywalker defeated Yamano who had that year-long tidal rain, and then we had the back-to-back No-a-new departure nights with Ken O'Beding, O'Zawa, and then Ken to Beding Ken O' the next night.
1:28:34
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it probably the two busiest months, which is which is interesting and a good thing leading as we close up the year.
1:28:41
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... for some reason house a glory head uh... high intensity bolly ray beat zilla five two for the title summer slam we had what it's being punk yeah bolly ray beat zilla five two for the house a glory title last month or two like like cleaner work today's is an eight scumbag no i think i think it was i think it was like a low blow more uh... summer slam is and it's time to go before uh... we have relance cash in on punk and then codi beat sena
1:29:11
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... to cash at a one the g one thirty five which is nice uh... at the repro 13th anniversary show shot samules in a title versus career beat wiki night junior which now we seen wiki night junior in noa uh... he was in the n one really so that was cool he went i think five how did he do pretty good he had a pretty okay all well uh... he ever made it a tiebreaker which was good uh... you think he could possibly face
1:29:40
[SPEAKER_06]: And I was out for a championship in 2026.
1:29:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's a guy that if they can keep him, you could do something with them.
1:29:50
[SPEAKER_03]: He's he had a lot of the same fan bases, Jack Morris had.
1:29:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Jack Morris went to the finals for losing to key to Mia.
1:29:59
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
1:30:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, so we had that, a start of five-star grand pre-mentioned earlier, Momo Watanabe beat Azami, at Progress 183, Manlyk Dorees beat Luke Jacobs in a TLC match to end Jacob's title run.
1:30:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Night two of DDT Peter Pan in the right to challenge any time, anywhere.
1:30:18
[SPEAKER_03]: after Yuki Oeno defeated Kazusata Gucci.
1:30:20
[SPEAKER_03]: My man, Mr. I want to see you go Kazuki Harata defeat Yuki Oeno to become the world or the I have eaten DDT K on each champion, maybe could not believe that Kazuki Harata won the fucking title.
1:30:37
[SPEAKER_03]: And then at the Dangerous Gate, we saw Madoka.
1:30:40
[SPEAKER_06]: You should say you can't believe how long it took him to win that.
1:30:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to see you
1:30:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go over here, dance and shit.
1:30:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Madoka Kakuta dominates Shun Skywalker to win the title at Danger Skate, getting Gajadokaro started getting rid of Zebrets.
1:30:58
[SPEAKER_03]: And then finally September was just ended, we had World's Collide Domestero defeated Vekino for the Mega Championship.
1:31:05
[SPEAKER_03]: It'll be fight land.
1:31:06
[SPEAKER_03]: We saw Mads Kruger defeat Matt Riddle and die Jack in a three way for the title At the medical dream star grand pre-final Miko Aono defeated Victoria Yazuki.
1:31:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I love you too bad you lost.
1:31:19
[SPEAKER_03]: That's okay
1:31:20
[SPEAKER_03]: uh you mentioned this one ninety second anniversary so mystical wins the uh the lightweight title for MSNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
1:31:43
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it's a bucket of white open.
1:31:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly one of my matches of the year it was great when it ended I watched it with I think Nate Newman Brian Clacker and Kyle and I was like Brian I'm gonna ask you something crazy and just and if I'm stupid just tell him stupid now I go Am I crazy that I'm giving that five stars because no because that crowd was incredible and MJF was the best He who you could have asked for and mystical is the best baby face you're gonna because that was perfect He goes I was he who's I don't know
1:32:14
[SPEAKER_06]: Yep.
1:32:14
[SPEAKER_06]: Nope.
1:32:15
[SPEAKER_06]: Continue.
1:32:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, and he was easy.
1:32:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I don't even know the story.
1:32:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And I knew what I was supposed to to be cheer for here.
1:32:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I was saying that's that's how you win a crowd over.
1:32:24
[SPEAKER_03]: That's perfect.
1:32:25
[SPEAKER_03]: And cool.
1:32:26
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if he got busted up the hard way, but for them to work that into the match for like 25 extra minutes.
1:32:33
[SPEAKER_06]: You're just like, what is it happened so quickly and abruptly.
1:32:38
[SPEAKER_03]: words like oh shit, but they played it so well he really ran his head into that ring post because apparently they are very anti color at arena Mexico because it's such a tourist attraction so people think the reason mystical ran his head into to the to the post is because then he can claim hard way yeah I didn't do it sorry you know hey let me let me let me rip my mask a little more so I can keep
1:33:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Give a lot of marks on it.
1:33:10
[SPEAKER_03]: So good.
1:33:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Defy at the Ancross show.
1:33:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Or at the Defy Ancross show.
1:33:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Carrying Cross won the super heavyweight cup.
1:33:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Defeating Kelvin Taintman in the finals.
1:33:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh.
1:33:22
[SPEAKER_03]: at Russell Prince of six me, why not be won the title back from Mizuki, who she had lost it to?
1:33:27
[SPEAKER_03]: And won victory as I said, Masaki to Mia beats Jack Moore, so he gets the shot.
1:33:32
[SPEAKER_03]: And Xenomersy, Ricky Saints, beats Oberthemme for the title.
1:33:36
[SPEAKER_03]: And then unfortunately at the DDT dramatic infinity, you key away, you know won the title back from Harada.
1:33:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I knew- Oh, I do that was a good alliance.
1:33:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Dude, I hope.
1:33:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but he got the bell which is the end, which is the point of Peter Man, you could.
1:33:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, guys about the same.
1:33:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, this guy wins it at that show.
1:33:55
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, and so he's he's one of the pillars of DDT.
1:33:59
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's be real.
1:34:01
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, he's on that rush mark.
1:34:02
[SPEAKER_03]: He comes out with the, the, the board.
1:34:06
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what I'm saying.
1:34:06
[SPEAKER_06]: Was that decked out?
1:34:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Was that decked out?
1:34:09
[SPEAKER_06]: Would like championship?
1:34:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't seen the second round, so I don't know, but it's a time to come out with that thing.
1:34:14
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's got his sunglasses that are glowing.
1:34:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I love that guy.
1:34:18
[SPEAKER_03]: He's so funny.
1:34:20
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I thought that'd be kind of cool to just kind of go over the major title changes in wrestling over the years so far and tournament wins.
1:34:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Just for a nice little reference, once again, a reference piece for people who maybe haven't kept up with everything in 2025.
1:34:36
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's just kind of a little round
1:34:43
[SPEAKER_05]: That's that punk around the world.
1:34:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was that Randall where I was like, I just ran.
1:34:47
[SPEAKER_03]: We put this together.
1:34:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll do it last because it's probably going to take.
1:34:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I guess, but I think it's kind of cool.
1:34:54
[SPEAKER_06]: I agree.
1:34:55
[SPEAKER_06]: That was off.
1:34:56
[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't realize all the
1:34:57
[SPEAKER_06]: to realize almost title changes happen, so that's awesome.
1:35:01
[SPEAKER_03]: So fun stuff going on with that.
1:35:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we already kind of discussed that N1 tournament.
1:35:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think there's a lot more to go into.
1:35:10
[SPEAKER_03]: We did kind of already bring up Dragon Gate.
1:35:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's more about the preview of what's coming up next.
1:35:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Anything more Dragon Gate you wanted to touch on that you had mentioned that I didn't see or
1:35:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Not just the Ozawa coming backstage to, uh, so did you know that, the him and Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna finish that gate of me on a show after this and maybe that maybe it happens on there and I can get more context.
1:35:42
[SPEAKER_03]: But, yeah, those guys together are not, they're not like they're psychopath, this is fantastic.
1:35:48
[SPEAKER_03]: And Ozawa's a good guy.
1:35:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, did you want to, so here's a question with, we've had our fair share of old men yelling at clouds.
1:36:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Do we really want to go into the PWI?
1:36:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey.
1:36:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I have the entire 500 in front of me.
1:36:16
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, was there any, is there anything where you're just like?
1:36:22
[SPEAKER_06]: Like we get a Cody Rhodes number one, but like, I don't know, I, it looks like right here, you again.
1:36:31
[SPEAKER_06]: Like you have to sell merch, you have to win loss.
1:36:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Win loss record, championships, one quality of competition, major feuds, prominence within a restless promotion and overall wrestling ability.
1:36:44
[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, from August 1st to July 31st.
1:36:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And I immediately took offense when,
1:36:52
[SPEAKER_03]: at number four hundred and fifty is kz it's meza can you tell me who joe black is no me either but he's ahead of him oh like there's some of these coat to manure at four forty one my great really a decky Suzuki four thirty five uh...
1:37:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Bear Bronson, who had a hell of a GCW run at 430?
1:37:23
[SPEAKER_03]: There's just some of these that I'm like, what in the hell?
1:37:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Dante, Dante Chen at 414, who's Dante Chen?
1:37:35
[SPEAKER_03]: And what have I ever seen him in NXT?
1:37:40
[SPEAKER_06]: Ah, so...
1:37:43
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't teach him.
1:37:45
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
1:37:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Wasn't he there for like a couple coffee?
1:37:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I think so.
1:37:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who Aaron wait is, but they have him ahead of Jun Kassai, who had a hell of a year with the Desperado ship.
1:38:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Some of these really, I know I know I'm always going to be on the outside looking in on the
1:38:13
[SPEAKER_03]: this year.
1:38:15
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, um, whoa, my biggest one of my biggest ones is Joe Hendry at number 12, the guy cannot rest a lot of the people bag.
1:38:31
[SPEAKER_03]: The gimmick is, yeah, and Joe Hendry's number 12.
1:38:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I come.
1:38:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah.
1:38:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let me go to the top here.
1:38:50
[SPEAKER_06]: Trick William's number 19.
1:38:51
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Ray Saito 87 though, that's respectable CY who didn't wrestle majority of the year 86.
1:39:01
[SPEAKER_06]: Trick Williams.
1:39:02
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't be late, didn't wrestle a lot of the year after year 83.
1:39:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, GY didn't even work.
1:39:12
[SPEAKER_06]: It puts on a high she had 80 and the guy had like maybe two passable matches from that July to July timeframe.
1:39:19
[SPEAKER_06]: Right?
1:39:19
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to put really starts at 73 with this NXT run he had.
1:39:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you?
1:39:26
[SPEAKER_03]: How is Nakamura 63?
1:39:28
[SPEAKER_06]: Didn't he have like, well, he was in a kind of champion for like seven weeks.
1:39:35
[SPEAKER_06]: And then.
1:39:38
[SPEAKER_06]: Didn't wrestle just like you just like E. O. Sky wherever the she's the rest of the twenty twenty five Like she didn't wrestle for three months when she had the title until Mania Two months What did your a bowl of Adam Cole match since 2019?
1:39:54
[SPEAKER_06]: I'll wait Same one No, he announced his retirement your boy Adam Cole who I finally got for like two months retired at all And while I was getting food and I was like, I had to Adam Cole.
1:40:06
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't care
1:40:07
[SPEAKER_06]: I come back here like all your retired.
1:40:09
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, what is FV42 FV42 FV42 FV42 FV FV was better than Sanby Zayn and Sanby Zayn could be a world champion in WWE and so so much merch more merch than he already is Jewish and Ellen 98 better than Sanby Zayn
1:40:39
[SPEAKER_06]: No, one of the big A.J.
1:40:40
[SPEAKER_06]: Francis number what one name, 157 the guy top dollar F.K.
1:40:51
[SPEAKER_06]: He's ahead of Kaito Ashita Dragon Lee, the socky cicada.
1:40:56
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Francisco Akira Akira has had a pretty damn good year from that fine frame.
1:41:03
[SPEAKER_06]: He's better than Shinayoki
1:41:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Drill him alone he's fucking oh he's not better than Drill him alone he can eat my dick Jimmy they said Jimmy who shows better than tattoo your end-o and peat on Yeah at 141
1:41:34
[SPEAKER_06]: Never even seen that fucking man wrestling.
1:41:36
[SPEAKER_03]: His name is Jasper Troy.
1:41:40
[SPEAKER_06]: So, PWI, we can no longer take, well, not that we did.
1:41:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Takes seriously anymore.
1:41:48
[SPEAKER_03]: And I get it, it's a shoot magazine.
1:41:49
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's becoming a work magazine more than a shoot.
1:41:53
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's, how it's become.
1:41:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I think ever since COVID, it's changed.
1:41:58
[SPEAKER_03]: So I get that.
1:42:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Now I will give them, I will give them a couple of things that I've happy about.
1:42:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Go to at five.
1:42:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for that.
1:42:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:42:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I think swarm at seven kudos.
1:42:09
[SPEAKER_03]: If you if we're calling it just a half year, I still think mystical at nine is really low.
1:42:15
[SPEAKER_03]: But at least they put up in the top.
1:42:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:42:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, we'll ask for you at 10, come on.
1:42:22
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's, yeah, that guy wrestled that whole time frame.
1:42:24
[SPEAKER_06]: He didn't stop wrestling until like a month ago.
1:42:27
[SPEAKER_03]: To cash it at 17.
1:42:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, man.
1:42:34
[SPEAKER_06]: There's no way to get to cash it as replacing a J. So, um, I don't even know.
1:42:41
[SPEAKER_06]: Cody road to be at my number one.
1:42:43
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't even think of road to be at my top 10, honestly.
1:42:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I, how is LA night above Ozzawa is actually a Virginia probably be on my top 10 and if you know with all these bad do you know what's in my top 10?
1:43:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean I would and think of two like you know some of these guys we've said where they haven't worked a lot how do they have MJF at 30 yeah how is Randy who's just putting on my
1:43:19
[SPEAKER_06]: So we're all the men never know and that gave kids a half-in-a-half-in-a-let for no bookmatch of this year.
1:43:25
[SPEAKER_03]: He said, I think I think he has two my two matches in the top two matches in the year.
1:43:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And remember this this evaluation period is July 31st.
1:43:35
[SPEAKER_03]: He got hurt like a week or two before the evaluation period from the G1.
1:43:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:43:41
[SPEAKER_03]: So so he was even like out.
1:43:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know.
1:43:49
[SPEAKER_03]: That's weird.
1:43:51
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why like when I looked at this earlier, I was like, oh man, this, this might like it, you know, cool, swarming at seven awesome.
1:43:58
[SPEAKER_05]: I, I know it's probably my top five.
1:44:03
[SPEAKER_03]: If you want to take that criteria, I think.
1:44:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I do not disagree with J.U.
1:44:08
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't think he was a great worker, but when you talk about win last record, he was winning.
1:44:14
[SPEAKER_03]: He won the world title.
1:44:15
[SPEAKER_03]: He's wrestling, he wrestled all the top guys, he's had good feuds, and he was a headliner in the number one company in the world.
1:44:23
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, by their standards, I get J.U.
1:44:26
[SPEAKER_03]: So, but I do not understand how you can do the same criteria and put mystical below him.
1:44:31
[SPEAKER_03]: With mystical self-redomestic Mexico on every day, every fucking week,
1:44:36
[SPEAKER_06]: Every week.
1:44:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but it just doesn't make sense because what does that like 9,000.
1:44:41
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of people It's 16 at a room in a Mexico.
1:44:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Every Friday Are you sure they're not workers who the arena?
1:44:51
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot of workers.
1:44:52
[SPEAKER_06]: I had to have the doubles appear mids in Cheechimura or whatever and I'm Mexican.
1:45:00
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't even know the land
1:45:05
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1:45:28
[SPEAKER_06]: a Clash in Perth person France, I don't know some around those lines.
1:45:33
[SPEAKER_06]: Get it on the ESPN, I'm not.
1:45:38
[SPEAKER_06]: I'll be at a Lord Cancer that night, so who knows?
1:45:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's why all this takes me to show us an 8 a.m.
1:45:43
[SPEAKER_03]: so if you really want to watch it, you can.
1:45:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Next week, I think we'll preview, I don't know at least for those shows, maybe.
1:45:52
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:45:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I don't have a card yet for the two game changer shows.
1:45:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Those are usually always good because they're in The show boat and new and new josey, so they're like a home crowd Yeah, those ones are always pretty fun So hopefully those cards come out we can go over those, but yeah, I don't know Alex.
1:46:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean Is this this an opportunity that we're gonna wrap this up before two hours?
1:46:17
[SPEAKER_06]: Chicken that right
1:46:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you don't shoot any time at the corner.